1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: sitting down with Garrett Downing and we're getting ready for OTAs. 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: To kick off this week. Exciting stuff. 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm fresh off my travel draft win, feeling great, Feeling 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: great about that. Now excited to see some football on 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: the practice field. 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: You know it's on the travel draft. It's it's it's close, 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 3: too close now, still. 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: Too close to the call AP has called this racer. 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: The mail in ballots are coming in. 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: All the mail in ballots came in. We're one sided. 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 3: We're gonna get to those a little bit later. We 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 3: always appreciate the emails of the Lounge at Ravens dot 14 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 3: NFL dot net. But this week is about OTAs. This 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: week is all about OTAs. Those kickoff today. The offseason 16 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: program has been going on now for a few weeks, 17 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: but now this is the next phase. And and once 18 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 3: you get to the o TA phase, what happens now 19 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: is that it starts to look a little bit more 20 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: like football. Guys are on the practice field. They're going 21 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: through drills, still not full contact, still not in pad, 22 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: but they're at least in uniform going through drills. And 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: it looks and feels a lot more like. 24 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: Football, right Exactly, you have a little one on one stuff, 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's not you're not putting on the shoulder 26 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: the pads and all that stuff, but you get your 27 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: first taste of these guys playing some football and not 28 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: just doing conditioning drills and stuff like that out there. 29 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 2: So it's an exciting time. 30 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: And so we're gonna break down some of the players 31 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: we're most excited to see and some of the storylines 32 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: to watch during OTAs, and let's start Garrett. 33 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: We each have picked a few guys. 34 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: That we want to point to who maybe this OTA 35 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: is really important for them or who were excited to see. 36 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 3: Number one for me that I'm just excited to watch 37 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: is Nate Wakens. Yeah, I'm just really fired up. First 38 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 3: round pick, really athletic guy. I'm excited to see how 39 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: he looks going up against NFL competition, Like, what does 40 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: it look like if he's slned up against say Flowers. 41 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 3: It's one thing in rookie mini camp when you're going 42 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: up against you know, someone drafted guy or Devon tes Walker, 43 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: but like, how do you how do you look going 44 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: up against a Zay Flowers as an example, the. 45 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: Word tedes Walker. I'm excited to see that. 46 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 3: It got a little taste of that as some of 47 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: the clips we put out from from Working Minute. Yeah, 48 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: so that was a taste, but now it's like the 49 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: next the next level of that. I just think that 50 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: like Nate Wiggans, obviously he was a team's top draft pick. 51 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: He's got all his talent. We know he's a little 52 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: bit lean, but he plays with some fire. When he 53 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: sat down and joined us on the podcast after getting drafted, like, 54 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: I was struck by his confidence. I don't think it 55 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 3: was false. He's a super confident dude, and I think 56 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 3: that like he's going to bring that kind of swag 57 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 3: with him to the field. And I'll just say, like, 58 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: and seeing him around the building over the course of 59 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks, it seems like he's already 60 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 3: kind of a pied piper type guy. Like other rookies 61 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: in particular are kind of like seemed to be kind 62 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 3: of following him. He's kind of the leader in these conversations. 63 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: And it's interesting for me to see that, like because 64 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: when we sat down with him, felt like kind of 65 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 3: a quiet guy, but like he he's definitely well liked 66 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: and respected amongst his teammates. And I've seen that and 67 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: limited interactions so far. And so now when you take 68 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: it to another level up going up against some of 69 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: the veterans, I bet he's gonna play with some fire. 70 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: Even in o TA practices. 71 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: Player I'm excited to see would be the king Derrick Henry. 72 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: And we don't know how many of these veterans show up. 73 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes some of the established veterans, they'll come one week 74 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: and not another. Maybe they don't come the first week, 75 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: they come the second week of OTAs. 76 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: Sometimes they come all of them. 77 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: We don't know, but I'm just telling you as soon 78 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: as Derrick Henry steps on the field, all the reporters 79 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: and all the photography, you know, all the photos are 80 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: gonna be saying, holy cow, look at this guy. He 81 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: is otherworldly. Like, just get ready for it right now. 82 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: You can line up, you can draft the tweet right now, like, 83 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: oh my god, look at Derek Henry in a Raven's uniform. 84 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: This guy looks like an alien. Tweet. Get it ready. 85 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: And so I think it's just gonna be one of 86 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: those moments where, sure you know from all his years 87 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: in Tennessee that this guy is an athletic specimen. 88 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: But when you see him in that purple and black. 89 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: For the first time on the practice field and you 90 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: see it up close and personal, Ravens fans are gonna 91 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: be like, Wow. 92 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: I've said it before. We see these guys all the time. 93 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 3: They're big people, They're muscular at large, like you're used 94 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: to seeing it. Derrick Henry is one of the one 95 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: of the players that's still to this day when you 96 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: see him in person, he kind of makes your draw 97 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: drop just that how physically impressive he is. It's big, 98 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 3: he's tall, he's huge, Like everything about him says that 99 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: he is like a rugged football player. And I think 100 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: that I think that you're right. Once people see him 101 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: on the field in action, it's gonna just make the 102 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 3: hype train the excitement around him amplified a little bit. 103 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that that will certainly be if 104 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 3: he's here. Who knows, Again, these are all voluntary at 105 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: this point. The first element of the offseason program that's 106 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: fully mandatory. His mandatory camp, which is still a few 107 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 3: weeks away, so it's totally voluntary. Now, who knows if 108 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 3: he's here for any or a portion of these he 109 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 3: has been here at times during the off season workouts 110 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 3: up to this point. Ye all that to say, when 111 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: he's out there, I'm with you that it is going 112 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 3: to be something that we're all excited to see. 113 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 114 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 115 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: And next I'll go to a guy who I think 116 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: these OTAs are really important for and you know, for 117 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: grinders like me, just true football the number three quarterback 118 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: quarterback spot. That's probably football savants like me. You know, 119 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: we watched in the trenches, okay, right, we know what 120 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: we're looking for. And so I think Andrew Voorhees is 121 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: a player that we're going to have a close eye 122 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: on during OTAs. It's his first taste of a real 123 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: NFL practice. You know, he's been full go so far 124 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: through the strength and conditioning program and all all the 125 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: on field work that they've done to this point. 126 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: But this is the first thing, this is the first 127 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: true practice. Well he went through. 128 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 3: He did go through rookie mini camp, that's true. That's 129 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 3: true many camps. That was the practice. That's kind of 130 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: the pre practice. That's a pre practice exactly. And now 131 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: you have the vets on the field, and so I'll 132 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: be I'll be excited to watch him go through his 133 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: work and and really see you know, he's trying to 134 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: establish himself as the starting left guard, and he's in 135 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: a competition right now with Salah and others, and so 136 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: I think that this is an important OTAs for Andrew 137 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: vorhe's to come out and for Ravens. Coaches and others 138 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 3: are excited about how he looks, and he's strong, and 139 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 3: he's big, and he's healthy now and and you know, 140 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 3: look it back when you look back on the college tape, 141 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: he's an impressive player. 142 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 2: But you got to prove it in practice, right. 143 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: All that can be true and is true, But until 144 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,559 Speaker 1: you go out there on the practice field and start 145 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: stacking repsin's. 146 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: And all that, you haven't proven much. 147 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: You haven't proven anything really, And so that's gonna be 148 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: his task and I'm looking forward to seeing him do that, 149 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: not tas Yeah, I. 150 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: Mean, he'll be a guy to watch it. I think, Uh, 151 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 3: you know, you're focused on the the second year, seventh 152 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: round pick in the competition right left guard battle grinder. 153 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 3: There's another guy who I'll be keeping a close eye on. 154 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: He's play a different position also on the offensive side. 155 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: He's established himself as a starter. That would be quarterback 156 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson. I'm excited to see quarterback Lamar Jackson. 157 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: He's going to be different about Lamar. 158 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 3: Well, what's going to be different is that he's lost 159 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: about fifteen pounds from last year and twenty five pounds 160 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: from two years ago. 161 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: Well, I'm more interested to talk to him. Ye, I 162 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: am to see that. I don't really think to like 163 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: for my eyes. I don't think that my eyes are 164 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: going to tell me anything really that day. I don't 165 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: know if we're going to be like, you know what, 166 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: he's looking. 167 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: Way faster I'll tell you as Hey likely said that 168 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: he's looking a way for hyperbole. Right, we'll see. Maybe 169 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 3: that's what the OTA's are going to be about. 170 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: OTAs are the time of hyperbole. Yeah, that is all that. 171 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: You have at OTAs. I do think that that will 172 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: be probably the biggest conversation point this week. 173 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: That'll be a major storyline. We haven't gotten to the storyline. 174 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: But he is a guy that I'm excited to see it. 175 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: How does he look? Is he moving any different? I like, 176 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 3: in all honesty, I don't think that you're gonna be able. 177 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: We're not gonna be out there with a stopwatch timing 178 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: him onto his forty yard dash time. But I do 179 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: think that definitely talking to him about that and seeing 180 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: how he looks, how he moves, if there's any noticeable difference, 181 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: still is he does he want to play at that weight? 182 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: All that stuff? And then even just like how does 183 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: how does Lamar look? How is he? How is he 184 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: throwing the ball? Like I think that like this is 185 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: year two of Todd Monk's offense, and so how has 186 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: how is he progressing within that? So you will be 187 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: zeroed in on the non contact left guard competition. 188 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: I will be offensive lineman and. 189 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 3: No offensive lineman, non contact drill pads, non pads, and 190 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: I will be watching the two time MVP. So I'll 191 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: get back to you on how he looks. 192 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: See, I'm grinder, I'm a big jay journalist. You're a 193 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: lowercase journalist, lowercase j journalists. All right, I'm gonna stick 194 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: with the offensive line just because I would have double down. Now, 195 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: all right, Roger Rosegarden like the mobility, you know, that's 196 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: what's been built about this guy. 197 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 2: We can kind of get a little flavor of that. 198 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: Ben Cleveland, well for the right guards. 199 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 3: But I actually do think all the offensive line is Yeah, 200 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 3: I really could go through that. I'm excited to see that. 201 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: I think it's not as that i'm excited to see it, 202 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: but like, if we're talking the topic here being who 203 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: the OTAs, who do they really matter for? It's really 204 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: important for these guys, those offensive linemen. These OTA is 205 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: not just the first one, but the series of OTAs, 206 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: all three are really important. 207 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 3: They are important. I think that I think it'll be 208 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: interesting to see who, like what the lineup looks like. 209 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 3: And and just so listeners know, like we're not necessarily 210 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: unless the coaches come out and divulge this information during 211 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 3: these press conferences, you're not really at this point supposed 212 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 3: to kind of come out and say here's the starters 213 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: and all that. 214 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: That's who's running with the first team, who's running with 215 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: what teams? 216 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: Right, But you do it get an indication of that, 217 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: And honestly, over the course of these these OTA practices, 218 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: a lot of times harball gives an indication of who's 219 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 3: kind of the leader exactly race. 220 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, how it always goes is there's out somebody out 221 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: there with the first team, and then the reporter afterward 222 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: it goes to harble, Hey, I see Sala getting a 223 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: lot of run time out there, coach, what do you 224 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 1: think of solid? He's like, yeah, giving them reps with 225 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: the first team, and then all the reporters like, yes, 226 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: I gotta go now I can go with it. Yeah, 227 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: you know so, But like, it's honestly not that much 228 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: of an indication of who's going to be your week 229 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: one start, which is really what matters, right, doesn't because 230 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: Sala ran as the starter for multiple weeks last year 231 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: and it led to lots of storylines about the potential 232 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: for a six round rookie to be the guy. And 233 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: guess what it was John Simpson, who I predicted from 234 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: the start. 235 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: Well, so it does it gives you an indication of 236 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 3: who's a leader or at least who's got to. 237 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: See I don't know that it even does. I mean 238 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: it can, but it doesn't always. I mean a lot 239 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: of it is they want to get these young guys reps, 240 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: and they want to get them good reps, which oftentimes 241 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: the best reps, which means first team reps. Yeah, and 242 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: so they throw them in it's trial by fire and 243 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: they see if they sink or swim, and and especially 244 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: before the veterans come back and take those spots, like 245 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna want you know, Roger Rosick now Folwlele is 246 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: still to a degree of developmental prospect, but they're gonna 247 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 1: want Roger Rosegarden to get a lot of first team reps. 248 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: Is my guess. 249 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: Let's see if he can hang right and then and 250 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: then you know what, Hey, if he's struggled a little bit, 251 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: all right, we better get ready, you know what I mean? 252 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 3: Like, well, that's that's like, that's the that's the example 253 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 3: to me, like at right tackle, who is taking the 254 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: bulk of the first team reps as at rotation? Or 255 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: is Rosengarten basically getting all the first team reps? 256 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: Or is it? 257 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is, even if Roger Rosegarden is 258 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: getting all the first team reps, I don't think you 259 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: have put an ink. 260 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: Oh Rose and Garden is gonna be the week one starting. 261 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 3: I can't put it, you know, because that's that gets 262 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 3: decided in training camp. But I think that if if 263 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 3: he is, if nothing gets decided, nothing gets decided during 264 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 3: those next three weeks of tea. 265 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 2: And preseason games matter a lot for that too. 266 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: Training camp in preseason games is when those things are 267 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: ultimately going to be signed. Sealed and delivered. But I 268 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: think it gives you an early indication like if if 269 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: is running with the first team and getting all the 270 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: first team reps, then like he's going into training camp 271 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: probably as as the favorite for that position, not to 272 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: say that it's done, but that he's got he's a 273 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 3: favorite for that position or vice versa. I think at 274 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: least it gives you same with Ben Cleveland. Is Ben 275 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 3: Cleveland taking all the first team reps like that would 276 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 3: be my expectation that Ben Cleveland has taken all the 277 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: first team reps at right guard. But if he's not, okay, 278 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 3: maybe this is maybe this has. 279 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: Been more of an open competition than open competition. I agree, 280 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: you can kind of get the guardrails the parameters for 281 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: the competition. I think you can glean some of that 282 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: during OTAs. 283 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like even going back to last year, like 284 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: Sala got a lot of the first team reps, Ravens 285 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: gave him a real shot there, but then just John 286 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 3: Simpson beat him out. He just fled out beat him 287 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: out once they got the training camp, and and that 288 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: can happen, and so I think that I'm sure there 289 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: will be that that will happen once again this year 290 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 3: at those spots. But it'll be it'll be fun to 291 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: he's get a framework of what this offensive line is 292 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: going to look like. 293 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 2: Agreed. 294 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: Another player that I'm excited to watch, and it's that 295 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: these OTAs are really big for is inside Linebaker, Trent 296 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: and Simpson. I'm gonna call it right now that there's 297 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: storylines and observations being made from training camp of man, 298 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: this guy looks a lot like Patrick Queen flying around 299 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: the football field. 300 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: I'm just going to call it right now. 301 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: And so, I mean, here's a guy who's stepping into 302 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: a starting spot, There's make no bones about it. That 303 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: is the expectation. And so him getting comfortable in Zach 304 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: Orr's defense really just getting comfortable run next to Rokuan 305 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: and operating in this defense. It's a big step for 306 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: him in year two after he really did not get 307 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: a whole lot of defensive action his rookie season. You know, 308 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: he played in the season finale, regular season finale against 309 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: the Steelers and played well. But this is a big summer 310 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: for Trenton Simpson to prove that he's ready for that 311 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: job like the Ravens think he is. 312 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. That there's probably gonna be 313 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: a lot of those articles we're going to read over 314 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 3: the course of the next month about how this guy moves. 315 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: He moves because he is like that, he's got a 316 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 3: report on him coming out of college legit and like 317 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: it is legitimate. He's super fast, he's got a nose 318 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 3: for the football. I think he plays with intensity, kind 319 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 3: of a hair on fire type player, and I think 320 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: we'll get a sense of that in OTAs a guy 321 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: that I'll also point to is who I think could 322 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 3: get some decent positive buzz is Devantes Walker. 323 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to see him. 324 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: You know, rookie fourth round pick, super fast. Eric DeCosta 325 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: has compared him, he did on the lounge and he 326 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: has elsewhere to Torri Smith in terms of the size 327 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: speed combination. He's a top take the top off the 328 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: defense type of guy who's got like world class speed 329 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: and good size. He can hear some guys in these 330 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: practices and and honestly, a lot of the time during 331 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: these practices, the attention goes to the skill players because 332 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: that's the easiest thing to see. If Dev catches a 333 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: bomb in one on ones, then everyone's going to be 334 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: going and on over this guy talking about how he 335 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: could be a difference maker for this offense. True, I 336 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 3: think that I'm excited to see him move, how does 337 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: he catch the ball? All that, and I think that 338 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: we could certainly be spending a lot of time discussing him. 339 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: I agree with that. 340 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: I think that if he makes a very good impression 341 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: in OTAs it also right now, I would project him 342 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: as the number four wide receiver, probably behind Nelly, if 343 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: he has a really strong OTAs you go in the 344 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: training camp saying all right, like can is this guy? 345 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: Could this guy be the number three slash for receiver? 346 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: You know, like is he ready for a bigger role 347 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: his rookie year than maybe we thought? You know, and 348 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: we meaning like pundits, And so I think that how 349 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: he doesn't practice this summer will dictate how much of 350 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: a roll year one role tes Walker has. Because the 351 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: door is open, right, he has an opportunity to, I 352 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: think earn those reps, and how he does this summer 353 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: will tell I think the reverse is true as well, 354 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: if they feel like, hey, you know, we feel like 355 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: we need to add a veteran to this. If they 356 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: weren't total yeah, you're you still are on that whole 357 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: sign of veteran wide receiver. 358 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: Think I'm not as high as you are on that, 359 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: but I but sure, yes I agree. 360 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: Like if if they don't necessarily feel great about him 361 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: stepping in as number three or the number four, they 362 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 3: could say, let's maybe let's get this time this guy 363 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 3: more time to develop and bring in a veteran who 364 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: gives us an additional depth there between. That's what these 365 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 3: I think that like at some of those positions, when 366 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: you're talking about like, okay, this is going to be 367 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: the third or fourth wide receiver, this is going to be, 368 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: you know whatever, the number three, the safety. Do you 369 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: need to go out there and get a veteran safety 370 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: or do you feel good about some of the guys 371 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: who are on the roster, like on our Darius Washington, 372 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: how does he look during these practices? I think that 373 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 3: like that is that's where these practices can can make 374 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: the coaches, make the personnel side feel good about the 375 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: roster going into training camp, or feel like, hey, let's 376 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 3: go and pick up another piece at one of these positions. 377 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: Let's go get another offensive lineman, let's go get another. 378 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: Wide Absolutely Eric Ticas will be watching these practices the 379 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: last cluster of guys that I will point to are 380 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: the and you mentioned one of them just a second ago, 381 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: Ardarius Washington, Jellen Armor Davis and Pepe Williams. Those three 382 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: defensive backs primarily corners. Art Area's primarily a safety. It's 383 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: a big summer for them and it starts right now 384 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: in OTAs. They have to stay healthy, they have to 385 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: stack practices, they have to stack reps. 386 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: They have to perform well. 387 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: You know, when we did our fifty three man roster 388 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: prediction podcast, I had all three of those guys on there. 389 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: But they have to earn that, you know, Like the 390 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: Ravens like to have defensive backs, but after you drafted 391 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: two corners Nate Wigans and TJ. Tampa, you're pretty loaded 392 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: at the position. And all three of those players have 393 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: struggled with injuries so far in their young careers. They 394 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: can get back on track, you know, this is a 395 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: new year, right they stay healthy and have a good summer. 396 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: They're talented guys who I like, and I think the 397 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: Ravens like a lot. If they prove themselves in practice, like, yeah, 398 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: their career, their career trajectory turns and it could turn fast. 399 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. 400 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 2: Those guys. 401 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 3: Honestly, like we've talked about in particular Jalen Armor Davis 402 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 3: and Pepe Williams. If we did an o TA preview 403 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 3: pod the last two years, we probably mentioned those guys. 404 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, well probably last year. 405 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, we spent a lot of time talking about them 406 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 3: last year and then honestly, they spent a lot of 407 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 3: the offseason on the shelf. 408 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: And last year the Ravens did not have as good 409 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: a cornerback depth. I mean they they didn't draft one early. 410 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: They had Kayu Kelly who they drafted on Day three. 411 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: Didn't they even end up making the teams? They were 412 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: thinner at corner Now the competition is even more stacked. 413 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: You know, the Ravens last year had to go out 414 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: and get some veterans. I mean they signed Rocky Scene 415 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: after the drafty and they ended up signing Ronald Darby 416 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: even later in the summer. This year, I don't think 417 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: they need to make a cornerback signing with as many 418 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: young good players as they have, but those young good 419 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: players have to stay help on the field too totally. 420 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 3: And I think that you know, those Pepe and Jalen 421 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 3: Armer Davis both fourth round picks and going into year three. 422 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 3: So as a fourth round pick going into year three, 423 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 3: like nothing is guaranteed, you're gonna have to kind of 424 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 3: make or break. It's kind of make or break. And 425 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: I think both those players have a lot of talent. 426 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: They've dealt with injuries and so this will be an 427 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: opportunity for them to prove they can stay on the field. 428 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: They've got everything down on the playbook side, all that stuff, 429 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 3: the mental side, which is what a lot of these 430 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: which is what a lot of these offseason practices are 431 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 3: really kind of based on, is like the mental size 432 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 3: since it's not fully physical, but I think showing that 433 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 3: you have all that stuff down is an important piece. 434 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 3: One of the guys I have one other one is 435 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 3: a jobo too. 436 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: I was just about to say, you know, falling into 437 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: the bucket of has been injured. You need to stay 438 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: healthy on the field and stack practices. 439 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 2: That's it. 440 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 3: David Dajaba last year during OTAs, he was the one 441 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 3: we were we were all going on. He had looked 442 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 3: great during those practices. He was healthy at that time. 443 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 3: He looked like he was going to be in store 444 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 3: for a breakout season. Everybody was doing the David Jaba 445 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 3: breakout season story and so that could could be the case. Again, 446 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 3: I think that that that hype will be tempered just 447 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 3: because he's had the back to back injuries. But I 448 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 3: think that really talented player and if he can stay 449 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 3: healthy and like we haven't seen him on the field 450 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: since he had that knee injury last year, correct, So 451 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: just if he can go through practices as he shows 452 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: that knee injury is a thing of the past, like 453 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 3: that would be a great sign for him. 454 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that from a health perspective, he's going 455 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: to be fine. John Harball said as much himself this offseason, 456 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: so I expect that he's going to be out there 457 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: practicing well. And yeah, I think he is a guy 458 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: that the Ravens are accounting on in a big way 459 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: this year. 460 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. 461 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: And they drafted the dece Isaac in the third round 462 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: and they re signed Kyle van Noy, But Jadeveon Clowney 463 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: is in Carolina now and he was your leading sack guy. 464 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 1: I think they're leaning on David Ajabo to pick up 465 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: some of that slack from Clowney's departure. 466 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, going back to what John Harball said, 467 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 3: you know, at owners meetings, he talked about the breakout 468 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 3: potential that for sure David Ajabo has, And so I 469 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 3: know that I know that there's some concern from fans 470 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: about him just because he hasn't been able to stay 471 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 3: on the field because of these back to back injuries 472 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: his first two seasons. But the Ravens have a lot 473 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: of optimism around him, and he's the second round pick. 474 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: Would have been a higher pick if not for the injury. 475 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 3: Coming out in the draft like a uber talented player. 476 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, you know, there's there's different injuries, right, 477 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: There's like the nagging hamstrings and those kind of things 478 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: that like when those like keep always popping up, that 479 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: gives me more cause for concern than like a Njaba 480 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: who popped in achilles, you know before he came before 481 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: the draft, and then he suffered a knee injury in 482 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: a game last year. Like that stuff unfortunately happens, you 483 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I guess I'm not like Dinging Ojaba. 484 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: He was healthy really all last summer. Yeah, pretty durable 485 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: guy on the practice field, was. 486 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: Out there like every day. 487 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I guess I'm not I'm not dinging 488 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: him too much on that. Like, I'm optimistic, i'mbullish on 489 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: David Ajabo and his ability to stay healthy and produce 490 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: for this team. 491 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he could be a really good player 492 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,719 Speaker 3: this year, and the Ravens are counting on that. I 493 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 3: think that, you know what, I'll be watching with him 494 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 3: over the course of the spring practices and then the 495 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 3: summer practices is like, you know, can you practice? Can 496 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: you practice all week? 497 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: And then he did that. 498 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 3: He did that last year, but I was coming off 499 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 3: the knee injury, and so like is that we're coming 500 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 3: off the knee injury. So like, if he goes out 501 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 3: there and he's out there over the course of this 502 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 3: next month every day, that'd be great. That would be great, 503 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 3: that would be a great sign. And I think that 504 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 3: that would like set the table for him to have 505 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 3: a really good training camp. 506 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. 507 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, we're going to talk 508 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: about some of the biggest storylines, not just the players, 509 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: the storylines during the OTAs. 510 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 2: After the break. 511 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 3: You're listening to the Lage podcast. We're coming to you 512 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: from the CIK studio. I want to give a shout 513 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 3: out to our Frances DraftKings Sportsbook. They're an official sports 514 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 3: betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens. They've got a limited 515 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 3: time off for running right now that you don't want 516 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 3: to miss. Download the DraftKings Sports Book aut today. Use 517 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 3: the promo code flock. If you are a new user, 518 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 3: you can get a deposit bonus up to one thousand dollars. Again, 519 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 3: the promo code is flock only at DraftKings Sportsbook. For help, 520 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 3: does it emptygambing help dot org or call one eight 521 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 3: hundred gambler. You need to be twenty one years or 522 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,479 Speaker 3: older to play and physically present in Maryland. All right, 523 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 3: So in terms of the top storylines, what is it 524 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 3: like the number one thing in your mind? 525 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is I'm really between the 526 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: offense and the defense. I'd probably say it's the defense. 527 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 2: Moving on. 528 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: You know, you have a first year coordinator in Zach Orr, 529 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: moving on from Mike McDonald. You know who's obviously the 530 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: head coach of the Seahawks. Now he lost some pieces 531 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: on defense, as I mentioned, Jdavion, Clowney, Geno Stone, Patrick Queen, 532 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: all those guys, Ronald Darby, those guys are all gone. 533 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: Ken This does this defense? How does it evolve under 534 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: Zach orr One? I think it'll look pretty similar to 535 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: what Mike ran here. It's the Ravens defense. But what 536 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: kind of twist does he put on it. It's hard 537 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: to tell during practice, but yeah, that'll be a storyline. 538 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: And how do these guys feel about their potential to 539 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: still be a top flight defense despite the losses? 540 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 3: I think all that is fair. I actually am kind 541 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 3: of more intrigued by the offensive side. 542 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: The offense is just sexy. It's the offense is always sexier. 543 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 3: It's also like tougher to tell, to be honest, from 544 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 3: a defensive standpoint, like game, but like like you, you 545 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 3: can't really get a sense of like play calling as 546 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 3: well from a defensive side, and these practices where you 547 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 3: can get a little bit more of an idea of that. 548 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: On the offensive side. 549 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: You see some more of the scheme tweaks, the tendencies. Maybe, 550 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: you know, if we see the Ravens using a lot 551 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: more twelve personnel, which has been the talk, you know, 552 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: one running back, two tight ends. How do we see 553 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: Isaiah likely integrated more into this offense after the breakout 554 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: that he had last year, and Mark Andrews' absence. Now 555 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: you have both Mark Andrews back healthy, you would think 556 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: Isaiah likely might be really your primary number three receiver 557 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: right behind the Haveza Rashot Obviously, if we're talking about targets, 558 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: I mean Mark would be in that top three, but 559 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: Isaiah likely would be kind of the next guy. 560 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 3: Yep. 561 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: And so you know, how much do we see that 562 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: being integrated? What's that mean for pat riccard? John Harball 563 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: said year one was really baby steps for this offense, 564 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: and looking back on it because it was a sea change, 565 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: it was a philosophical change on offense. And now they 566 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: start that much more ahead in year two. What does 567 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: that allow Todd Munkin to do and how he shapes 568 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: this offense. That's what's going to be interesting. 569 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 3: That, like those comments from from Harball after the season, 570 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 3: really we're enlightening to me, and that like he felt 571 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 3: like there's still a pretty big evolution that's going to 572 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 3: take place on the offensive side of the ball. And 573 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 3: he talked about basically the day of the season ended 574 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 3: meeting with the offensive coaching staff to talk about like 575 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 3: what worked, what did and lamar and yep, what works, 576 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 3: what didn't, and what needs to change moving forward, And 577 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 3: so it was certainly not like, I mean, the offense 578 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 3: is pretty darn good last year, won a second MVP, 579 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 3: they made some major strides in the passing game, they 580 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: went to the AFC Championship game, So like, pretty darn 581 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 3: good offense for Tom Munkin in his first year. But 582 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 3: John Harball was not at all saying like, hey, look 583 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 3: we've got a great offense, don't need to change. 584 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: This was a couple of days removed from a pretty 585 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: tough AFC Championship performance. 586 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 2: Also for that, I don't think that. 587 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 3: Was the result of that game, Like, I don't think 588 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 3: it was just a result of like, hey we lost. 589 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: You do self evaluation after every season, even if you 590 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. 591 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: That's part of the process. 592 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 3: But they felt like that there were some there was 593 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 3: some things on offense that like that dogged them throughout 594 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 3: the year and they need to make tweaks to that. 595 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: And there's their scheme to that. There's there's in gameplay calling, 596 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 3: there's personnel. All of it is part of the equation. 597 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 3: I think that like they they felt like they needed 598 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 3: to make some changes to that. And I think this 599 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 3: is going to be the first time we start to 600 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: see those changes in action. 601 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. 602 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: I'm really excited to see what this offense has in 603 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: store for for it in year two under Tom Monkin, 604 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: because he's I thought Tydy did a great job last year. 605 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: There won't be as many stories about Todd and his 606 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: on field demeanor and and you know, colorful language as 607 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: we saw last year. We're all a little more accustomed 608 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: to that now it's gonna be a little bit more 609 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: And honestly about how Lamar feels in it, right, Like, yeah, 610 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: year one was a big deal for Lamar and getting 611 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: comfortable in this offense. But year two, how much further 612 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: along does he feel now? And what they can open up? 613 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: You know, what level of the playbook can they get 614 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: to now? And where does Lamar feel about? How does 615 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: he feel about that is a big deal. 616 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 3: I mean, like last year, to OTAs is when Lamar basically 617 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 3: got the playbook, Like that's basically he started going to 618 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 3: work in this offense, Like he signed right around the 619 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 3: draft and so like this was all new to him 620 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: at this point. So where he is compared to a 621 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 3: year ago, it's night and day. And I do think 622 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 3: that I do think that's gonna make a difference in 623 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 3: terms of he already had the keys to the offense 624 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 3: in a lot of ways. But I think that he's 625 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 3: gonna he's gonna be driving everywhere. He's gonna be driving 626 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 3: everywhere this year with those kids. 627 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: So and Lamar we spoke about it a little bit. 628 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: Lamar's way will obviously be a big one. I'm gonna 629 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna predict it right now. How that's gonna go is, 630 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: there's gonna be three questions off the top about Lamar 631 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: and his weight, and he'll give he'll give good answers 632 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: about that, and then it's gonna be like, all right, guys, 633 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: come on like it. How many questions we got about 634 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: the weight here? Yeah? You know, and then he's gonna 635 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: laugh and he's gonna make some joke along those lines. 636 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: We're all gonna chuckle, and then we're gonna move off 637 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: the weight subject. But it's gonna be it's gonna be 638 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: fast and furious off the top. 639 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. So I think it's a pretty good prediction. The 640 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 3: thing I'm just most curious about is does he plan 641 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 3: to I care less about what he wastes to day 642 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 3: versus what he plans to play at Week one? That 643 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 3: is the question. 644 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: Well, and to me, it's what's the intention here, Like 645 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: do you feel like you need to get faster? Yeah, 646 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: what's the thought process behind the weight loss? That's what 647 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm interested in. 648 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 649 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: So when we do get a chance to talk with him, 650 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: not sure if that's gonna be this week or another week, 651 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 3: what we'll see, but we we'll get to the bottom 652 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 3: of those questions. So those are the top story lines 653 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 3: to me. Another one, no, I don't. 654 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna roll right into getting to the bottom 655 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: of something else. And that's who won the travel draft call. 656 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 1: And the emails are pouring in. I'll just read you 657 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: the subject line of a few here. Okay, Eric Voles, 658 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: this one is Garrett embarrassed himself. Couldn't agree more. Kai Dagner, 659 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: the subject line is just trounce Alec A Sorry, Alec, 660 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how to pronounce your honest, that's my 661 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: b Alec mink with the dubs, all right. Jeff host Hostetter, Yeah, 662 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: uh says he's got he's got barbecue waiting for me. 663 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: And his wife is from Dallas too, so you know. 664 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 3: Well, okay, that's just a homer pick like that, that's true. 665 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: He's a little compromise. 666 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: See my wife from Dallas, so you win. Yeah, good logic. 667 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: All right, here's the one from Kai. Dagner says, Ryan 668 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: trounce Garrett in the travel draft as bad as Garrett 669 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: has ever trunced Ryan in any draft. Brutal Eric Bowles, 670 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: this is the best one. Garrett embarrassed himself. Oh, my lord, Garrett, 671 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: Ryan completely cleaned your clock this year. Wow, I lived 672 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: near Dallas. Oh I should have read that part. I 673 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: should have stopped alec Alec. Here he goes one year later, 674 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: same story. Mink got the best away games by far, 675 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: and it's not particularly close. Barbecue divisional games and a 676 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: little Tampa retreat. Come on, Garrett picking the Christmas game 677 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: was a nail on the coffin for his chances. 678 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: Of a late draft upset. I mean, just you picked it. 679 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 2: You picked it. 680 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 3: It was the only game left. I couldn't just pass it. 681 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 3: I got I got stuck with it. That's all. 682 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: You should have done better rock papers this. You should 683 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: have better pat this. 684 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 3: When I'm hanging out on the beach for a week 685 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 3: in l. 686 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: A, A week really got extended. 687 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 3: Huh Oh yeah we're going out early. 688 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: Oh, but a full week. 689 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 3: We're going out. We're going out early. We're gonna spend 690 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 3: a full week there. I'm just gonna be able to 691 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 3: be up surfing, surfing every day. 692 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: You don't know how to surf. I actually do know 693 00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: how to surf. 694 00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 3: You sure you do? 695 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 2: I do. 696 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 3: I have a surfboard, a. 697 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: Surfboard I can serve. I surfed a little like four 698 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: footers in Myrtle Beach. 699 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 3: Well, I might need to borrow that surfboard for the week. 700 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 3: Then I'm going to be in LA And even if 701 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 3: I don't know how right now, I'm going to be 702 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 3: out there so long that by the time I get back, 703 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 3: I'm going to be an ex. 704 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,479 Speaker 1: You're a banana biite guy, that's what you are. You're 705 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: a beach banana bike guy. 706 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 3: I'll be It'll be everything for me. I'll be hanging 707 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 3: out on the surfboard, I'll be hanging out on the boardwalk, 708 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 3: whatever it is. I'm going to be enjoying the beach 709 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 3: out in LA for a couple of weeks, and I'll 710 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 3: be enjoyed in Tampa, Nah, an hour away from the beach. 711 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: Down there. 712 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: I talked to Simon Simon Gilan, who kind of oversees 713 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: their travel or works with Joan with their travel He said, 714 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: Tampa is going. 715 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: To be nuice. 716 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 3: You're just saying that. 717 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 2: No I talked to yesterday. I talked to him yesterday. 718 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: I scoped it out, I did my research, your research. 719 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 3: All right? Well, we uh, I know there's a lot 720 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 3: of people who are waiting to hit send on emails 721 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 3: backing me up on the travels draft. So you can 722 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 3: do that at the Lounge at Ravenslot NFL dot net. 723 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,239 Speaker 3: Go ahead and get those in. Also, the last thing 724 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 3: I want to mention here is we've got a very 725 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 3: special episode of The Lounge is gonna drop Wednesday morning. 726 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 3: All right, So we're gonna have Coach Harball. 727 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 2: Oh you're just gonna come out with it. 728 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,479 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I'm just gonna come out and just let 729 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 3: everybody know we're gonna have Coach Harball on the podcast 730 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 3: and really excited about this conversation. We also got some 731 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 3: new digs. Okay, We've got some new digs that you're 732 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 3: gonna be excited to see. 733 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: You're not the only one with a new office. Got 734 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: a new podcast office. 735 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got a new office yourself too. 736 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: Look, we'll do a full breakdown, all right, and. 737 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 3: We got a new podcast studio here which we are 738 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 3: really fired up about. So you'll be able to see that, 739 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 3: you know, the video of that, of course on our 740 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 3: Apple website and our YouTube channel. And again that episode 741 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: with Coach Harball is gonna drop Wednesday mornings. To stay tuned. 742 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening, and we'll talk with 743 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 3: you again on Wednesday