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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast wants to be taken out

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Speaker 1: by a female assassin one of us does. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name

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Speaker 1: is Dan Hansis come to you from a virtual room

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Speaker 1: filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Erica tamp Posey, Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: What is up? Boys and girl? Hey? Dan? He? Hey? Dan? Hey?

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Speaker 1: Somebody check on Dan? Has anyone checked on Dan yet? Oh? Dan?

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Speaker 1: Are you okay? Dan? Twitter is awesome? Yeah, it took me. Now.

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Speaker 1: By the time that rant was over, I wasn't even

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Speaker 1: so much news that could work as um bad news

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Speaker 1: as examples that happened since we laughed at the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I actually didn't know what you were referring to at first,

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Speaker 1: but now I assume you're talking about the Jets Mega

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Speaker 1: star trade. Yes, Jamal Adams traded to the Seattle Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: which we will get into in depth. In fact, I

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Speaker 1: would almost go as far as saying that when the

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Speaker 1: trade went down, my colleague Mark Seiler was more fired

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Speaker 1: up than I was. Uh, Mark, how are you right now?

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Speaker 1: After the Jamal Adams trade? Well, to be honest, I

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Speaker 1: mean from a from a sports news story, it feels

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Speaker 1: like three years ago. It was what's Saturday Afternoon? And

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Speaker 1: I made, um, you know, we're we're more than colleagues here,

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Speaker 1: We're friends, and our listeners are more than just listeners.

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Speaker 1: And I think they know well enough that, um, you

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Speaker 1: know that occasionally when I when I well to you,

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Speaker 1: I'm reaching for something greater with our listening audience. But uh,

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Speaker 1: I am prone to sending off the the maybe a

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Speaker 1: tweet that might be more based in emotion than maybe

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Speaker 1: like what Pro Football Focus would send out at times,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know we love that about you. Well

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Speaker 1: not Greg, we just dropped off the podcast here, but

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, and I think, um, well, we can get

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Speaker 1: into it. But I think I created some unnecessary friction

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Speaker 1: looking at things globally and maybe for my overall experience

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Speaker 1: versus this specific um moment in time, which I think

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Speaker 1: had more positives than I gave it out of the gate.

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Speaker 1: And I had a lot of people saying, be nicer

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Speaker 1: to Dan, don't critique the Jets, And you know, I

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Speaker 1: got the other version of how is Dan doing? You

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Speaker 1: should be adding Dan? If you're gonna say this about

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Speaker 1: his team. I mean, how many thousands of tweets have

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Speaker 1: I not sent about the Jets because I thought this

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Speaker 1: will only antagonize um relations with Dan in the past.

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Speaker 1: This time, I was out to lunch with Simone. We

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Speaker 1: I I'm not sure it was the wisest thing, but

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Speaker 1: I don't really care. Let's start here. Your take was fine.

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Speaker 1: It was a football take along the lines of the

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Speaker 1: Jets can't hold to their stars, the Jets, uh don't

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Speaker 1: do things well along those lines, Do I all that stuff?

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, the dynamic between this podcast and Twitter,

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Speaker 1: the podcast Jets Browns fans. There's a hundred times with

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Speaker 1: the Browns where I I and I'm not perfect either,

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Speaker 1: where I held back on Twitter because I know anything

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Speaker 1: then directly sent Mark's way as a shot at Mark.

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Speaker 1: So as I'm processing this trade and I'm going through

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Speaker 1: Jets need to start following the Browns model. I guess something,

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Speaker 1: And quite frankly, we're gonna get into all the details

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Speaker 1: of that trade and everything else in the NFL, around

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Speaker 1: the NFL in just a few minutes. But yes, well

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Speaker 1: we'll stick a pin in that conversation. There's there's so

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Speaker 1: much to get to guys today. Because um on Friday,

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Speaker 1: He was saying, you're excited because like a little bit

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Speaker 1: of Inside Training Camp Live actually was on NFL Network. Well,

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Speaker 1: All I was trying to do is I miss you.

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Speaker 1: this whole show to Taylor Swift today. Well that was

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Speaker 1: that's great album was the play hours ago? DA And

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Speaker 1: hit the news. And he's a super Christian kid and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, won't it be funny if I throw all

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you listen to the throwback podcast

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Speaker 1: you listen to one episode, that's the voice of God

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Speaker 1: before he was a huge sports broadcaster. Uh, he had

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Speaker 1: thank you Matt money Smith for giving your time. That

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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks in a mega trade. What defines a mega

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Speaker 1: trade two first round picks going back to the Jets

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Speaker 1: The Jets send add fourth rounder uh to the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: the Jets in the trade. It is a massive deal

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Speaker 1: and it's a big story from both sides. Let's start

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Speaker 1: on the Seattle side, Greg, because yes, the Jets tons

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Speaker 1: And you've paid um, Bobby Wagner, you paid Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 1: was an interesting bit of news there Dan on that situation.

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Speaker 1: business done next year, which is interesting to me. I

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Speaker 1: been UH around five trades in the last twenty years

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Speaker 1: that involved two first round picks they and this is

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Speaker 1: going to say the game to say? What is he

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Speaker 1: going to say? He has my take on the Jamal

431
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Speaker 1: Adams trade. Great talent, two time Pro bowled player, leader,

432
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: fiery individual, but he had become a total distraction. As

433
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned to the team. He was the

434
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 1: he was critical of Gaze Woody and Joe Douglas, just

435
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: pushing the envelope, just trying to create trouble. As far

436
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Speaker 1: as I was concerned with the Jets, h he wanted

437
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: to be the highest paid Jet and you know, with

438
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: no participation in the offseason program. He wanted out due

439
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: to losing, he had said many times last year. So

440
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: hopefully it works out for the Jets. They usually don't

441
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: make out very well with these things, but it's about

442
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: time things are going to turn up, right. M not

443
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: a glowing room, but a realistic woman. You can see

444
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: the through line though, from like the Keith take to

445
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 1: the Dan take. I mean, this is it's funny because

446
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: that you found yourself at the heart at the center

447
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: of it. But this storyline of the players because Jalen

448
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: Ramsey I'm thinking about specifically, the player is kind of

449
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: using their voice and their leverage to create trades. I mean,

450
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: this has been your corner even before it came to

451
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Speaker 1: the gym. Yeah, it's it's that's my my kind of

452
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: final thought on it is It's happened with Jalen Ramsey,

453
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs, it's happened to Jamal Adams. And whether you

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Speaker 1: want to see the US as something that's empowering to

455
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: the players, fine, or if you want to see it

456
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: as something that is bad for the league and bad

457
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: for fans ultimately because stars that you get attached to

458
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: leave town before you feel like they should. That's fine too,

459
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: but it's going to continue to happen. And guess what

460
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: it's going to happen to your team too. It's just

461
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: a matter of time until I think it's more likely

462
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: to happen if they're run poorly. I just think that's well, yes,

463
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 1: everything is more likely to go to go sideways when

464
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: an organization has run poorly. But I really think the

465
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Speaker 1: rookie scale needs to be revisited down the line because

466
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Speaker 1: I think these players that outperformed the rookie deal by

467
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: the third year are going to continue to be upset

468
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Speaker 1: about being under players. And I think that's something a

469
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: track here, right. The precedent has been set now and

470
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: you know this were players have no voice and you

471
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Speaker 1: wouldn't be hearing how the stuff we're hearing from Jamal Adams.

472
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Speaker 1: But we live in a time now where in many

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Speaker 1: good ways, player empowerment um is at its height. And

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Speaker 1: you know, Jamal Adams, I don't know who was sort

475
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Speaker 1: of in his ear to all the us, but he

476
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 1: has a flair for the dramatic. I'll give him that.

477
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: And it was about every third or fourth day Jamal

478
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: Adams was doing something to get back in that uh,

479
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: that news cycle, and it just seemed to chip away

480
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Speaker 1: at the relationship with the Jets. So I do agree,

481
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Speaker 1: despite some of my protests initially that you know, this

482
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: was a tough situation for Douglas and he did not

483
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: get fleeced. That's the one guy in the building I

484
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: would build around. It's your GM, and I really hope

485
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: that he's still around when these picks are made two

486
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: years from the next year and the year from now,

487
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: after that six year deal. And I know, weird, weirder

488
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: things happened to that the only thing happens to these

489
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: teams is suddenly someone who's an extremely valuable person says,

490
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to put up this again. There are

491
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Speaker 1: issues going on much higher up than the GM and

492
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Speaker 1: that building. From what we're seeing, there's even new reports

493
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,479
Speaker 1: today and you know it's it would be concerning. Um,

494
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: I wonder how in locker room is gonna is gonna

495
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Speaker 1: respond to what they're hearing about the person that owns

496
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: their team? Well and Adams talking, I know we are

497
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: moving on that. I know that wasn't what inspired it.

498
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: But what at what Adam said about Gaze that he

499
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Speaker 1: doesn't know his respect? I mean it was it was untenable.

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00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 1: I mean everyone knows and that's that's the leader of

501
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: the team. Um and uh, it's still a little untenable

502
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: because you know, because what he's speaking for for other

503
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Speaker 1: players there. But it would have been it would have

504
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: been tough because who had faith and Gaze being able

505
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: to handle that in a way that engendered the respect

506
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: of all the players not not a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: We do we do assume that Jamal Adams was loved

508
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Speaker 1: in the leader internally on that team. But I didn't

509
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Speaker 1: hear a lot of people coming out and defending Jamal Adams.

510
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: In fact, Levian Bell gave Jamal the business after this.

511
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it probably turned it probably turned

512
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Speaker 1: pretty awful in the last you know, three or four

513
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: days in a week. But I don't think he's alone

514
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: in in in finding um offense, some of the comments

515
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: and scenarios around ownership and other things, and and and

516
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Speaker 1: Adam Gatee. I mean, how many players you could have,

517
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: You could have a probably a support group of players

518
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Speaker 1: that did not feel supported by Adam Gaze through his

519
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: whole career. So I just think that's a looming issue.

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00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: And then you're still, as a Jets fan kind of

521
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 1: hoping maybe for a melt worked up about it. Everybody,

522
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: you what, you're more worried about the Jets than I am,

523
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: and I love it. Well, I just see a lot

524
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: of mirror similarities to some you know, reasons that football

525
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: has not always been fun following the team that I follow,

526
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: And I don't think I only wish that on any

527
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 1: other fan base, to be honest, I have all weekends right,

528
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: but we did. We did get this right, these draft

529
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Speaker 1: picks right. We did a Jets centric show on Wednesday.

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00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: Our broadcast on Friday was very Jets heavy, as it

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00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: should have been. It was a f C East And

532
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: after I tweeted that on Saturday, I mean, I am

533
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: getting destroyed by Jets fans all Saturday, all Sunday into

534
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: the day when I get off the show. I need

535
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: a break from the Jets. I wish them well. I

536
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: wish your fan based well. Breather please, I have been

537
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: trying to move on from this segment for five minutes.

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00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: Certain people keep talking. So okay, alright, let us move

539
00:27:53,600 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: on to other matters at hand. Major League Baseball started

540
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: out Thursday night, went through the weekend, and they made

541
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Speaker 1: it some Monday morning before disaster struck. At least two

542
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: MLB games postponed after members of the Miami Marlins um

543
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: caught COVID nineteen. At least thirteen is the report, thirteen players,

544
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: so that causes the Marlins next game to be called off,

545
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: their home opener against the Orioles. The marlins previous location

546
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: when all this went down was Philadelphia, where they're playing

547
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: the Phillies. The Phillies are supposed to host the Yankees today,

548
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: uh and that game was canceled as well, And now

549
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: MLB scrambling trying to figure out if they can make

550
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: this work. An NFL, of course, Greg is watching all

551
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: of this because MLB, like the NFL, at least right now,

552
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: is not doing a bubble plan. They're not putting people

553
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: in Orlando like we're seeing with the NBA and keeping

554
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: everyone away from the public and trying to get through

555
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: a season. You're counting on all these outside elements and

556
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: variables to not bring down a schedule in the season,

557
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: and things are off to a tricky star for MLB. Yeah,

558
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: and everyone immediately, um, at least on my timeline, the

559
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: people covering the NFL immediately tried to apply it to

560
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: the NFL. And look, the challenges that the NFL face

561
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: face are are the same today as as they were

562
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: Friday when we frankly, you know, we're so excited on

563
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: our broadcast for those who did tune in that news

564
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: that the NFL and the NFL p A had agreed

565
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: to an adjusted cv A, which which we'll talk about briefly. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, was was a big shot of optimism because

567
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: I really was uncertain about how that part of the

568
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: equation was gonna go, and the NFL settled it pretty calmly.

569
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Speaker 1: I mean, there really wasn't the huge back and forth.

570
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: It wasn't going It didn't play out in the public

571
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: as as long as is certainly baseball did, and and

572
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: that was a positive. But the challenges that the NFL

573
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: still faces in terms of testing and in terms of

574
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: keeping the players safe, are the same really as they

575
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Speaker 1: were a week ago at this time as they were Friday,

576
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: and the MLB, I guess, is showing a worst case

577
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: scenario of how quickly it could happen. I mean, that's

578
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: the thing that gets you. It was like, we're four there,

579
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: four days into the Major League Baseball season and the

580
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: team has already gone down. I mean, the the timing

581
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: of it is is tough because I know everyone everyone here,

582
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 1: You Marcus suddenly turned into a huge baseball fan. Everyone

583
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: was excited to have sports back. I know you're you're

584
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: a huge baseball baseball What happened? You signed up for

585
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: MLB TV on Sunday and by Monday the whole league

586
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: shut us. I've been a baseball fan for about seventeen

587
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: and it's suddenly into the darkest corner we've ever seen.

588
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: I Greg, I don't know what it means either, though

589
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: I also don't like put like, okay, this means what

590
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: for the NFL? And No, Mark, don't forget about the

591
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: Blue Jay's extra ending loss. In your first day as

592
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: a Blue Jays fan. You put some steak on the league.

593
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: Right now. That was eight minutes into my becoming a

594
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo Blue Jay. It's a one year deal I have

595
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Blue Jays. But um, here's the thing.

596
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: It honestly felt amazing to sit on a Sunday afternoon

597
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: and flip through all these games happening and I don't

598
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: care about the cardboard fans and all this other business.

599
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: It was just cool to see. And I'm with you

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00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: that on Friday I felt this real optimism for the

601
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: first time in a while that the NFL was moving

602
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: forward sensibly. They had gotten their issues out of the way,

603
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: and you hope that can continue. I mean, they have

604
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: put a ton of layers into place to stay safe,

605
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: and it's it's just I think from a human angle,

606
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: you're you're hoping that you're asking like two hundred people

607
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: from each NFL team when they go from city A

608
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: to city be to you know, engaged in week one

609
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: in week one contests, and that we get there and

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00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: that be that that can happen safely. I mean, it

611
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: comes down to safely. It comes down to the fact

612
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: that in the NFL, se of players have bm I

613
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: body mass index issues that make them a little more

614
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: pecurely um vulnerable to corona. We just don't know, and

615
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: I we all the idea that any of us are,

616
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: you know, like overly cynical about it. I think you're

617
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: just dealing with the logic and the facts, and the

618
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: disruptions were seen as baseball tries to commence. I mean,

619
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Speaker 1: you hope that these are blips on the radar and

620
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: improved testing and improved methods around it, and you know

621
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: they're they're learning on the fly. But then, you know,

622
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: I read this great article from Peter King last week

623
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: about Eric Sugarman, the Vikings VP of sports medicine, and

624
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: all the safety UH implications he had put into place

625
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: so well and inside the team complex, and then he

626
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: caught it. And so it's just his family, and it's

627
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: just like it's involves more than just the actual players.

628
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: It involves a lot of other things. So it's like

629
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: everyone is hoping that this works, but it is. It

630
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: is easily the trickiest thing that we've ever witnessed as

631
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: sports fans from birth until now. Virus kind of virus.

632
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: I mean, the viruses like this have been taken out

633
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,239
Speaker 1: are the human race and been a problem for a

634
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: lot longer than any of us have been around. You know,

635
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: it's just like I feel like what I feel like.

636
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: I watched a health video in nine where that was

637
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: a similar catchphrase, virusk and the virus. Well, you know,

638
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: so that you know people have been asking us for

639
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: a long time, when are you gonna get there? Around

640
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: the NFL merch going virus, gonna virus feels like a

641
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: good start and then right on the back like double dash.

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00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal got uote, I don't want to put I

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00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: don't want to put my name on that. In other news,

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Speaker 1: we have a player. Part of the agreement between the

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Speaker 1: union and the league were opt out clauses for people

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Speaker 1: that had either pre existing medical conditions that made playing

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Speaker 1: during the COVID nineteen pandemic highly risky, or just players

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00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,239
Speaker 1: with with or without even if they had no pre

649
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: existing conditions that just weren't comfortable. And we already have

650
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: a player who has opted out. Chief's guard Laurent Daverne

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Speaker 1: A Tardiff. Did I get there right? Tardif hennounced Friday

652
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: night that he is opting out of the season. Uh.

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00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: He played regular snaps for the Chiefs. But you also

654
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: may know the name because he is the doctor. He's

655
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman. Doctor a medical school graduate, and he

656
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: spelled the he's spent the offseason working in the medical

657
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: field at a long term care facility in Montreal, trying

658
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: to help people dealing with this horrible virus. And he

659
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: has decided that he is going to take the opt

660
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: out option negotiated by the league in NFL p A

661
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: not playing because of the dangers and risks to him

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00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: and his family. And he will not He's the first,

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00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: but he will not be the last. Yeah, And it

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Speaker 1: is a he's a unique circumstance. Um. You know, he's

665
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: doing it because he thinks he's needed elsewhere. He wants

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Speaker 1: to continue working in his community and he feels like

667
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: that's that's more important. He also, you know, as he said,

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00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: he he doesn't want to potentially transmit the virus, you know,

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Speaker 1: in his communities, um, just to play sports. And that

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00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: that is something that in theory, every player has to

671
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: make that decision. But he's coming from it from a

672
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: very different standpoint. He said, if he's gonna take risks,

673
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: he wants to do it for his patients. So he's gonna.

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00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: I have a you know, a soft spot in my

675
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: heart for this guy, and followed his whole career because

676
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: he went to McGill like my brother. And um, I

677
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: mean he's kind of an amazing person. Andy Reid said

678
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: it well, he said doctors are givers, they're not takers.

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00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: You know Andy Reid's I think his mom m is

680
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: a doctor, and you know it's a profession that ultimately, um,

681
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna give and that they're worried about the greater community.

682
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: And and Andy Reid couldn't have been more supportive of

683
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 1: what you know, duvern A Tardif was doing because that's

684
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: that's what he's doing. He he has a higher, higher calling,

685
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, he has a higher calling.

686
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: So he's in a unique um circumstance. Um. But he's

687
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: also has a starting offensive lineman for the defending World champs. Well,

688
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: and they turned around and signed Collegio Semile as a guard.

689
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: But I mean here's the thing. I mean, well, I

690
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: know you're he he didn't exactly shine with the Jets.

691
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: That's fair, um, but it suddenly you have to make

692
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: moves and and it's good to see though along the

693
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: lines with read that, Um, Patrick Mahomes came out and said,

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Speaker 1: I can't think of anyone in this locker room that

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00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: doesn't support his choices. And I can remember back to

696
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: the seven strike where you had certain players scabs crossing

697
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: the picket line to help their teams try to compete

698
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: and winner. They just simply weren't um as taken by

699
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: some of the player uh strike issues and they were

700
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: treated poorly, and it was there was all this contention,

701
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: and you could see that happening here because I mean,

702
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: the culture of football could be like you don't walk

703
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: away from the rest of your team, but this is

704
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: a very different situation, and he specifically, it's such a

705
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: unique scenario. I do think one of them or compelling

706
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: itemans items about this week is who else might drop out?

707
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: I mean, the the amount of money they're being offered

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00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: if your non risk is is essentially nothing for an

709
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: NFL player. I mean it's it's low fifty thou um,

710
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: which is essentially applied to what they'll make next year too.

711
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: It's almost like a loan of a hundred and fifty

712
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, which would be significant for players at the

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00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: bottom of the you know, pay scale, of which there's

714
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: a lot, but yeah, it's it's not a huge incentive

715
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: to skip out. That's for sure. I don't believe it's alone.

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00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: If they opt out with medical clearance behind it, right,

717
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: that's the difference, and that has you need it. Yeah,

718
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: that that that's just if you if you are just

719
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: choosing to play out of just wanting to be safe.

720
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: And speaking of high risk, here's one of those nuggets

721
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: from the agreement between the players and owners. NFL players

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Speaker 1: who attend high risk events and contract the coronavirus face

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00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: team discipline and lack of play and uh. Here is

724
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: the memo in which the NFL defines high risk conduct

725
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: as attending colon an indoor nightclub with more than fifteen people.

726
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: I mean, if the nightclub has less than fifteen people

727
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: in it, it's not a good place to be anyway, barely. Yeah.

728
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: An indoor bar with more than fifteen people other than

729
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: to pick up food, an indoor house party with more

730
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Speaker 1: than fifteen people, an indoor music concert or entertainment event

731
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Speaker 1: with more than fifteen people. A professional sporting event other

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00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: than applicable NFL games or events with more than fifteen people.

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Speaker 1: An indoor religious service attended by more than of the

734
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: venue's capacity. It's fascinating to me. I I it sounds weird.

735
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 1: To say I love it, because what do we love

736
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: about any of this? But it makes a lot of

737
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: sense to me because this whole pandemic is all about,

738
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 1: you know, on some level, you have to have some

739
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: care and concern for the rest of your community and

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00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: the you know, the rest of the country and your

741
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 1: in this case, it means your team. And uh, it's

742
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: gonna it for for any chance for this NFL thing

743
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: to work, it's gonna be on an incumbent on all

744
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: these players to be extremely disciplined, like we're all trying

745
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: to be like like hopefully the majority of like the

746
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: community is gonna be and in one way to do that,

747
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: I think is with some pretty severe economic punishment. So

748
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, it makes a lot of sense to me. Then, yeah,

749
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: the word discipline, that's what came to my mind too,

750
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: And it is different for us as like, you know,

751
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: washed up dads, not your ricky um and these guys.

752
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: Imagine being a millionaire. Imagine being a good looking professional

753
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: athlete that has the world at his fingers and has

754
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: no responsibilities at home, many of these guys, and then

755
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: being told you can't do anything, you can't enjoy any

756
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: of the fruits of your label, labor, or your successes

757
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: or your money. It's it's asking so much of these

758
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: guys because I remember when I was like, if you

759
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: it's it's it's such a challenge and I don't like

760
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: people that. And you'll see that I'm showing social media

761
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: from cross you know, crogy old beat reporters will kill

762
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: a guy for going to pick up what was it

763
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: There was an NBA player that that went to pick

764
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: up wings left the bubble wings. Um, maybe that's a

765
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: little bit of a different example that I'm trying to

766
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: draw here. But I'm not gonna like kill these guys

767
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: if somebody messes up, because it's an incredibly difficult thing. Uh,

768
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: the temptation I would think to stay in this uh

769
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: your own bubble, and it's all up to you to

770
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: do so. But I also think it's fair because you're

771
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: making the decision that that, like, then don't play. I guess,

772
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: like my my pointment, then don't play because it's not

773
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: about you. It's about let's say it was a Chiefs player.

774
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: It's about Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid and everyone else.

775
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: And you're making the decision that you're ultimately your lack

776
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: of discipline, and I'm okay with putting those guys at risk.

777
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: Not about yourself, but I'm putting I'm okay putting my

778
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: homes and everyone else on the them and read at risk.

779
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, a financial you know, huge financial

780
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: penalty totally makes sense to me. And if and if

781
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 1: you don't think you can handle it, then don't do it.

782
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: It does. I mean, like someone like Jamie Collins came

783
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: out and said, it is going to have to be

784
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 1: on you know, time weather Warren veterans who've been around

785
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: the block to really get in the ear of younger players,

786
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: because you know, I don't remember, I don't feel this

787
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: way walking around all the time. But when you're like

788
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: a pro athlete and you've been essentially um told that

789
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: you're invincible for the last seven or eight years of

790
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: your youth into adulthood, you're gonna be seeing some of

791
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: this differently than others. And I do think it's interesting.

792
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: One little note that it's indoor bars, it's indoor this

793
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: or that. I mean, there are we all have friends

794
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: out and about in various capacities that we've seen who

795
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 1: are gathering in large groups outdoors, and people are catching

796
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: Corona that way as well. I mean, I don't know.

797
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: To me, this is a time thing too. We've seen

798
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: this in society. Every one's really cool with following rules

799
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: for a bit of time, and then boredom, exhaustion whenever

800
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: you want to throw the words out. Their temptation, the

801
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: desire to be social really things that are met, that

802
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: are real. I mean, if you're alone, if you're embubbled

803
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: alone in your own apartment and your twenty two year

804
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: old NFL player, you want to go out and see

805
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: other people, and it's like, how do you you gotta

806
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: stay perfect between now in January? It's a tall order. Um,

807
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: all right, let's move on. I'm gonna zoom through a

808
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: couple of things really quickly. Here Raheem Mostert and the

809
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: forty Niners agree to an adjust a deal after his

810
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: trade request. I don't know what's going big going on

811
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: with this story. Is a lot of stuff going on

812
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: in my life. There's a lot of stuff going on

813
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I'm not too plugged in. There was

814
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: something with an agent apologizing was that even real? I

815
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: don't know if that was that was a fake twet okay?

816
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: I thought so, yeah, But you know, I know there

817
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: was some talk about that and then apparently he was

818
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: very upset. But now they have everything worked out best,

819
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: she says, uh, with achievable incentives and as signing bonus,

820
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: he can almost double the salary of two point eight

821
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: seven five million this year. Good luck to him, good

822
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: luck to ra Solid to the agent. Basically almost by

823
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: giving him nothing and being like, here, you can at

824
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: least put this out here as a news release and

825
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: pretend like we gave you some Mormon right, And I mean,

826
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan could get Raggedy Ann to run for twelve

827
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: hundred yards, so it's the best place. Where was he

828
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: going to go? That was going to be better at

829
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: this point in time as a running back. There aren't

830
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: a lot of teams that even need running backs right now.

831
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: The doll, Raggedy Ann and the doll, the doll yards here,

832
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: twelve yards, ten touchdowns. I would not try to tackle

833
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: a living doll running through a second run the other way.

834
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: In fact, I think Raggedy Ann's died with with It

835
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: wasn't even our generation, it was before. But even though not,

836
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: do you know what a Raggedy Ann is? Erica? Yeah,

837
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: I had one Oh wow, I couldn't have been more

838
00:43:55,360 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: going a little bit freshen up on doll culture. I was,

839
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,479
Speaker 1: I was off my market. Maybe Courts of Thunder needs

840
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 1: to be retired, Greg, and maybe a doll associated blog

841
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: is what you should launch now or combine them, I

842
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: mean in some way. Alex Smith, how about that the

843
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: Washington quarterback who suffered that gnarly broken leg and it

844
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 1: almost cost him his life and uh and his leg,

845
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 1: but he has been working his way back since November

846
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: of two, two thousand eighteen. He's underwent seventeen surgeries. He

847
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: wore like a halo. Like there's raggedy And by the way,

848
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: if you're watching the video stream, look at that nice

849
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: job by them. Was the raggedy and modeled after a

850
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: child killed by a vaccine? All right, I don't I

851
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: don't need to read that story. It's too much negativity

852
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: in my life as it is. Anyway, Alex Smith, he

853
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: is undergoing a physical or has done, with Washington team

854
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: doctors today Monday. The expectation is that he'll start training

855
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 1: camp on the act of physically unable to form list

856
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: that from rap Sheet and Tom Pallisero. He's in the

857
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: building let's see if you can actually get back on

858
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: the field in game action and in training camp. But

859
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: it's an incredible comeback story mark for a guy that

860
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: lost almost everything, including his life, and the guts, the

861
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: guts to to say, not only am I going to

862
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: move on from this and survive everything I came with it,

863
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to play football again. I can't even imagine. Yeah,

864
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: I just wonder what his career would look like in

865
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: Washington right now had this injury not occurred. I mean,

866
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: I like I've seen out there some people said, you

867
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 1: know what, shut down the Comeback Player of the Year

868
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: award race right now just to give it to Alex

869
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: Smith because having seen images of what that leg looked

870
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: like not so long ago. Um, I'm incredibly impressed that

871
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: he's even essentially moving anything faster than a walk right now.

872
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: Incredible toughness that that's a good point. I would say,

873
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: if he makes the active roster and he's Dwayne Haskins

874
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: is backup this season, I don't care if he never

875
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: takes a snap. He's the comeback Player of the Year,

876
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: come on now, Yeah, even if he even if he practices,

877
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: I mean it, it's funny because you you think of

878
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 1: how his career could have played out to like, sometimes

879
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: we're so unfair in terms of like using the word

880
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: toughness in terms of athletes. You know, it's like, I

881
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: don't think toughness would have been the word people thought

882
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: of when you thought of Alex Smith before this. And

883
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: yet if you act, if you think about what he

884
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: actually had gone through, one of one of the worst

885
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 1: starts for like a number one overall draft pick we've

886
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: ever seen in the kind of career that he did

887
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: end up having. That takes toughness too, And there's so

888
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: much that goes on behind the scenes. You don't you

889
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: don't know these these men at all. It's a crazy story.

890
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: They do have Kyle Allen as who's supposed to be

891
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: their backup. Still feels like, I don't I guess even

892
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: guessing what's gonna happen is tough to guess, but it

893
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: still feels like, man, it is a long shot, but

894
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 1: he has made it so so far that who's who's

895
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: the doubt him? Now? I did forge at the Kyle

896
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 1: Allen was in the building and finally in the news

897
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: Kicker's Club. Everybody can go, well, fifteen people can come

898
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 1: into the Kicker's club, you better wear a mask. Most okay.

899
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: Aldrick Rosas evicted from the Kickers Club because he's been

900
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: released by the New York Giants, Mike Gara, Flat follow

901
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: and Rapstreet reported Sunday Morning. Uh. In a subsequent move,

902
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: the Giants are expected to sign more own chandler Catna Zero,

903
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: So Rosa's ultimately marked this situation if he was a

904
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: second team All Pro this offseason heading towards it this season,

905
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: he's still on the Giants. Have to be honest. But

906
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: after that ugly hit and run arrest that followed a

907
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: bad season with New York, he gone, yeah, I think

908
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: it's you know, if you're if you're the Giants, you

909
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: better be scoring touchdowns. I don't think that you're on

910
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: team Strengthedge distant, long distance, Steel goes to the moon.

911
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: Maybe the Kicker club can don't go outdoors. I don't

912
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 1: know if you guys saw the video of our old

913
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: friend John Locke, who is now the strength and conditioning

914
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: coach of the Chargers, former NFL scouting combine hero and

915
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: hard knocked guy. But they've got a beautiful outdoor, you know,

916
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: facility to lift weights and why not, why not bring

917
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: the kicksbub out there. Eric is in the club with

918
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: one person in the club, but she seems to be

919
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: making the most of an outdoor nightclub. All right, Well,

920
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: like I see like the bars now are you know

921
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: the ones that are sort of outdoors but not really

922
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: like they're pushing the envelope where it's like you know,

923
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: the you know, they open up like kind of a thing,

924
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: but it's not really outdoors, you know, so you know,

925
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: you know it might be unsafe. Butick and I've talked

926
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: about this on this show, Losing Teasing. The virtual reality

927
00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: masks since Skinnamax in the mid nineties, the capabilities, it

928
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: is time to get these virtual reality masks going and

929
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: maybe we could all, in a socially responsible way gather

930
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 1: in a large field, put on the virtual virtual reality masks,

931
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: UH and our regular masks, and then just have a

932
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: nice time together in a virtual sense. What do we

933
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: I mean, what do we look like? And what are

934
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: we wearing? Are we wearing? When you look through the

935
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:23,919
Speaker 1: mask and I were to look at you, what would

936
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: I be seen? Just you wearing the same T shirt

937
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 1: you're wearing now or something in a field together? Why

938
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: don't we just hang out because you want to get

939
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: replicate the club experience. So maybe you upload what you

940
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: perceived to be the greatest of physical look you have,

941
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: whether you a man or woman, and that's what gets

942
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: uploaded into the the hard drive or whatever the software,

943
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: and then that's what the people see from you when

944
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: you come into their vision. Right, I would amp up

945
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: my hotness like reistic levels. So well, if suddenly I'm

946
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: six ft two, I mean a lot of things will

947
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: be changing. Personally. One of the toughest things about this

948
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: pandemic has been the reduced time in the club for me.

949
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 1: You know, it's just not out there with the people

950
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: like I used to be. I get it, I get it.

951
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: That's what's happening in the news. All right, Before we go,

952
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 1: let's just talk about something that Greg Rosenthal is working

953
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: on this week on NFL dot Com. It's a column, Greg,

954
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: and it's kind of digging into and what's going to

955
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: be the most non conventional training camp in the history

956
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: of professional football, how teams are set up for success

957
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: or failure. Take it away, well, because it's in theory. Okay,

958
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: the pandemic hurts everyone, but it's like the standings are

959
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: a zero sum game, right, so it's like, no, it's

960
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: gonna hurt. The teams that can take advantage of it

961
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: and essentially be less hurt by it are gonna have

962
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: an advantage. And I it crossed my mind when we

963
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: did this UM segment on Friday on our broadcast. Again,

964
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: I think you can check this out on NFL game Pass,

965
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: which has been free all summer UM if people are

966
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: looking for a way to find it. But we we

967
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: talked about the a f C s, and I thought

968
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: about the challenge that Brian Flores had. So obviously rookie

969
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: head coaches are gonna have a challenge. But I looked

970
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: at the Dolphins roster. They got about eleven starting jobs

971
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: up for grabs. They have so many young players all

972
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: over the roster, draft picks because they had three first

973
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: round draft picks, you know, you know some of that

974
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: Larry me Tunsil trade coming through. They also have a

975
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback in Tua who they want to get up

976
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: to speed. They also have a brand new offensive coordinator,

977
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: Chan Gailey. They have a brand new defensive coordinator, although

978
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: that's Floris's side of the ball, and that that to me.

979
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: I looked at that roster. It's not a very good one,

980
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: and I thought, like, that is one team to me

981
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: that's gonna it's gonna be hurt more than other teams.

982
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna be hurt more than the other teams in

983
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: the a f C. East. Let's say, for instance, who

984
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: have continuity on their coaching staff. I mean they have

985
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: like nine literally nine spots on their team that they're like, okay,

986
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: those are the guys that are starting. Otherwise it was

987
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: gonna be competition and its young players and it's trying

988
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: to teach them a new system, and that to me,

989
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: I know Brian Flores is good and he was impressive,

990
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: but like, that is one of the teams I look

991
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: at like that is a big time challenge, and not

992
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: every team is facing that sort of challenge that the

993
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: Dolphins are, So it's another team that's facing a challenge.

994
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: Mark Well, I would actually look towards a player, um,

995
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: I would say a positive would be someone like the

996
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: Bills returning their entire defense. But when I look at

997
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: when I think about the idea of having to have

998
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: your dry run coming like week one, this flurry of

999
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: uh like left tackles that were drafted to start from

1000
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: the minute the season begins, and your raw first experience

1001
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: UM against an unknown opponent could be you dealing with

1002
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: von Miller. I just you know, fill in the bank,

1003
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: uh total Bmith that's out to destroy You've never played

1004
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: in the NFL before. There's a couple I can think

1005
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: of the Browns, uh first round pick who has to

1006
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: shift to left tackle for the first time. I mean,

1007
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: there are complexities and imagine being along with that. You know,

1008
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: rookie wide receivers struggle in general more so than you

1009
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: think when you look at them on draft day. A

1010
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 1: lot of their numbers just aren't that impressive. You're shifted

1011
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: into an offense that you really have never been into

1012
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: any sort of game scenario with. And it extends to

1013
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 1: Greg mentioned it like a first time play color whether

1014
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: you're up in the booth or on the sideline, and

1015
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,479
Speaker 1: general game communication. You're gonna have no ability to test

1016
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: that out other until you know Week one starts. And

1017
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: it goes back to the idea that we could be

1018
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: seen some really wacky September football, which I kind of

1019
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: think is cool if it happens, I think it's gonna

1020
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: be fascinating, But it could be really hard um for

1021
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: certain players being thrust into it out of nowhere. I

1022
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 1: think September has the potential to be completely strange. And

1023
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: of course you are about thing I worry about is

1024
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: the least exciting thing to talk about, which is a

1025
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: bunch of guys blowing hamstrings and straining calf muscles. And

1026
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: you just have to you have to kind of maybe

1027
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: expect that to be part of this experience. Hopefully everybody

1028
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: will be proven wrong. But the fact that you're not

1029
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: gonna have a traditional ramp up period through the spring,

1030
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 1: summer training camp. You're not gonna have uh, preseason games

1031
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: for guys to get their feet wet. You're just gonna

1032
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: be just imagine the adrenaline that's gonna be pupping through

1033
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: these guys by the time they get to the field

1034
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: in Week one. And then one team that did jump

1035
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: to mind for me, and I know it. You don't

1036
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: need to be a rocket scientist. You know that rookies

1037
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: are in a tough spot right now, and rookie quarterbacks

1038
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: specifically because the leap is so big from college Chapro,

1039
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: the Joe Burrow thing, the number one overall picking Cincinnati.

1040
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: I know our podcast is high on the Bengals is

1041
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: a potential sleeper team this year. But if Joe Burrow,

1042
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: who by everyone's accounts, is gonna be a week one starter,

1043
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: if he's gonna need six weeks to even kind of

1044
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: figure it out, or three or four weeks even, and

1045
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,959
Speaker 1: the Bengals as a result get off to a really

1046
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: bad start, well, the thoughts of them as a playoff

1047
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: wild card darling or hanging around today see North, maybe

1048
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: you need to recalibrate some expectations, right, I like this,

1049
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: maybe this cop maybe this idea is even too simple

1050
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: to even put in a column, but it's like, yeah,

1051
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: anyone really like he's the only rookie QB that we

1052
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: were expecting to start Week one, it's gonna hurt the

1053
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: rookies in theory. It's it's hurting teams that are have

1054
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: new systems on both sides of all. Because I think

1055
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: one thing we should point out, Yeah, as part of

1056
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: this is the rules that the NFL and the players

1057
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: agreed to with training camp. And it's like we're reporting

1058
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: we have inside training camp live happening right now, and

1059
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: right now it's just like, you know, guys, tested are

1060
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 1: we gonna do on NFL Network. Sorry, are we gonna

1061
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 1: do live test results or something, because that's all we're

1062
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: talking about. It's like, okay, Lamar Lamar Jackson has now

1063
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: passed his first three days of testing and he's now

1064
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: into the building. So that's like the level of football

1065
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: news we're at. But it's gotta be let that way

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00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: for a while. It's testing for four days and most

1067
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: of the teams haven't even started that. Then it's physicals

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00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: for a couple of days, then it's strength and conditioning

1069
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: for a week. Then it's like light practice. By then

1070
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: we're to August mid August, and we're too light practicing.

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00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: Then we're too mid to late August before you put

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00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: the pads on, and it's only like it's some sort

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00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: of level of I think eight padded practices in camp

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00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: and then maybe a few more in the season. You're

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00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: talking about like ten padded practices. So to your point,

1076
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: like on a left tackle trying to get ready, like

1077
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: that's hard for him, and it's it's hard for the

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00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: Browns too, because they've got a new coach, Like they've

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00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: got more of a veteran team, but they've got a

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00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: new coach. On both sides of about haven't heard a

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00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: lot of Joe Woods pop this off season, but that's

1082
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator. They have a whole new, you know

1083
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 1: system to try to install on it. It just feels

1084
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: like a little more challenging when you're barely on the field.

1085
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: Like it's one. It's one reason why teams that kept

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00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: their coaches, like the Jets for instance, that might have

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00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: been on the on the fence. It's like, well that's

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00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: one plus of it. I think this offseason that you

1089
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: don't I don't think you want a new coach right now.

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00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: Look at like we I love Matt rule and the

1091
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: whole idea of Matt rule, but talk about a potential

1092
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: slow start. You have an entire um group of assistants

1093
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: that have no NFL experience, and your defense is rookie

1094
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: heavy and completely overhauled, and you have a new quarterback.

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00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: It just seems like there is a competitive disadvantage there.

1096
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: And I know that this, you know. I I feel

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00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: like I may be overly stressed and hit on this

1098
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: point back in March and April and it was a

1099
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: tad paned, but um, at this point, I think it

1100
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: is just it is going to separate experienced you've got

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00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: to be coaching. Typically the very can maybe militaristic looking,

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00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: you know, you do the same thing day after day,

1103
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: but you're gonna have to be flexible and nimble on

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00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: your feet. And I think that the coaching staffs and

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00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: players who can operate in that environment are gonna thrive.

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00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's crazy to think that we're

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00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: probably not going to see you know, Corona could throw

1108
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: everything into a blender, but would we see more playoff

1109
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: teams from last year with that coach quarter act veteran

1110
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: presents still intact just going back to the playoffs. I

1111
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: think it's just the challenges for some of these new

1112
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: fangled operations are as heightened as they've ever been. There

1113
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: is no padded practices for thirty of the thirty two

1114
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: teams until August seventeen. You know who's hurt by this

1115
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,439
Speaker 1: hard knocks? What is gonna be going on with that show? Yeah,

1116
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: we got no place games. It's once they're in the building.

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00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: There is part of it that at least I'm in.

1118
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm interested in what I'm not sure what it's going

1119
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: to be in terms of the drama. You're right, but

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Speaker 1: I guess I am curious to see whatever this is

1121
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: gonna be, because it's also unprecedented. If anything, we always

1122
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: make fun of hard Knocks for hitting the same beats. Well,

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Speaker 1: they can't hit the same beats this this time, right,

1124
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: That's true. Some of the Hard Knocks tropes you won't

1125
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,919
Speaker 1: be able to lean on, Like the defensive lineman going

1126
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: to Disneyland for the seventh time. You can't. You just

1127
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: can't hit that anymore. You can't hit it. The Broncos

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00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: stand out to me. I'm just to throw one more

1129
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: random surprise. Team also sought to me because they were

1130
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: really county on rookies and people kind of forget that

1131
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: they have a whole new offense with Pat Shermer and

1132
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: it's just a very young team on both sides of all,

1133
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: but especially offense. They stuck out to me and the

1134
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: ones that are helped their kind of I guess it's

1135
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: maybe too obvious, but it's like it's it's veteran teams,

1136
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 1: veteran coaches, Raven Steelers, It's Chiefs, you know, it's it's

1137
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: Sean Payton kind of grown men team where it's a

1138
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: bunch of guys on their second contracts that matter for you.

1139
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: With all due respect, with all due respect to Tom Brady,

1140
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: I feel like Sean Payton and Drew Brees are gonna

1141
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: run rough shot through the NFC South. Just call it

1142
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: a feeling called a hunch. I mean, you talk. There

1143
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: is no coach quarterback combination that I would trust more

1144
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: right now with the extenuating circumstances at play. And you know,

1145
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: Belichick is gonna do well through this two. So that's

1146
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: another that's another kind of take that went on through

1147
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: the spring and summer. This is the Bill's year. You know,

1148
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: get excited. Hey, Jets fans, there's hope. No, there isn't

1149
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: um the Patriots when they're four and oh, when they

1150
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: hit October, all of a sudden, they're gonna be in

1151
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: the driver's seat for another division. Mark mark my words

1152
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: on that one. They'll have some great continuity though, you know,

1153
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: like they are a team that feels like all their coaches,

1154
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: they got all their players back, you know, they are

1155
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: a team. I think it would also feel good that

1156
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, we're we're bringing back the same guys

1157
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: that have mostly been here the last couple of years.

1158
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: You know, so that that's a bit of plus one

1159
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: And I'm looking forward to seeing your peace, Greg and

1160
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: NFL dot com this week. But one thing that you

1161
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: might want to alter is any trepid, any trepidation around

1162
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: the Broncos who have a second year quarterback who was

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01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: a solid C plus for the last five games last year,

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01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: and I like, there is nothing to worry about there.

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01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: I mean a rock solid C plus performance by juw

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01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: Lock down the stretch so that team is locked and

1167
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: loaded thirty points a game. I don't care what's going

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01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: on in the world. I was IRUs gonna virus not

1169
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: in Denver. I was on your I was on your

1170
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: course with Lock. But I I went back. I watched

1171
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: those games. Now I'm a little I'm a little bit off,

1172
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: but I am. I'm not on Pat Shermer corner. So

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01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: that that raises that raises issues for me. Whatever you

1174
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: saw it, I drew Lock last year. It's like, okay,

1175
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: now it's a whole new system. All right, good talk?

1176
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: Anybody else have anything else to add today? I'm ready

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01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: to go, Ricky. Yeah, it's good. Um, we'll be back. Yeah.

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01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: Folklore is pretty good. I like it. I mean it's

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01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: it's good. It took me a minute to warm up

1180
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: to it, but I do you have regrets that that's

1181
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,919
Speaker 1: an album that's if there's ever a grower, And we're

1182
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: talking about Taylor Swift's surprise release Folklore, featuring a huge

1183
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: contribution from Greg's band The Nationals. Uh, if there's if

1184
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: there's ever been an album that requires, you know, a

1185
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: full weekend of living with it a little bit before

1186
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: making a statement about it. Ricky comes on the air

1187
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: about twelve hours after it comes out in national television

1188
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: and says it's quote unquote good, not her best, not

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01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: that great. Forget twelve hours, about twelve minutes after she

1190
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: started listening to what she calls it folk bore on Twitter.

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01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: You know I enjoyed, you know, yeah, I don't know

1192
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: it definitely the more it's Cutchy, it's it's a it's good,

1193
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: it's good. I still don't think it's her best album.

1194
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: Do you do you think it's her best? Not her best?

1195
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: But I it's a perfect album for the times. It's

1196
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: it's I'm really I'm into I'm big. I'm big into it.

1197
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: And the if if you're interested in like a great

1198
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: um connection of American history with a huge popular artist,

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01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: and then the fates intertwined to bring them together, and

1200
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: then that artist writes an incredible song. The Last Great

1201
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: American Dynasty is about a really interesting woman who actually

1202
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: lived in Taylor Swiff's house in Rhode Island. She wrote

1203
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: a whole song about her history and it's very interesting

1204
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: and it's the best song on the album. I think

1205
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: I really like August too. August is a really good one. Mark.

1206
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: How about you? Well, I mean I went on I'm

1207
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: not a huge Swifty or whatever there you would call them,

1208
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: but like, because of the album landing, I spent the

1209
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: weekend kind of going down. What a weekend for Cessler

1210
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: by the way, between the Jets mania, between his MLB

1211
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: fandom again or something, because they were we were just

1212
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, we were. It was all happening in one

1213
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: And then you're big on Swift, let's hear about that.

1214
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: I just think that because I'm more like, you know,

1215
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: I didn't focus just on this album. I watched her

1216
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: documentary on Netflix. I went through a bunch of her

1217
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: so I knew some of her songs, but just the

1218
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: whole thing and I and more and more, Um am

1219
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: I a fan? Now you know, I'm a new beat

1220
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: to the whole thing. I'm not an expert by any stretch,

1221
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: but uh, I think she's by myself, had been vastly

1222
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: underrated up to this point. And then you're throwing the

1223
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: buffalo blue Jay's assuming the thing doesn't go off a cliff,

1224
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: and there are a lot of new things to be

1225
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: plugged into right now. I think the blue Jay's game

1226
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: starts in about two hours, So let's wrap this up.

1227
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: Did you did you say, am I right that you

1228
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: you texted the words she's my she's my prince, my

1229
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: new Princess Diana. Was that? Yes? Well, I think she

1230
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: has that aura to her a little bit um, which is,

1231
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, I probably had a different viewpoint than you

1232
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: guys on Princess Diana. I moved from England, if you

1233
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: didn't know, I lived in London and like, as a

1234
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: small child, got up four in the morning to watch

1235
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: her marriage to Princess to Prince Charles, and like so

1236
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: she had been part of my life forever and couldn't

1237
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: believe when she was, um, you know, taken away from us. Terrible. Anyways,

1238
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: I love Diana, so I think she's got a little

1239
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: bit of that aura tour she's she's she's got some royalty.

1240
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: I think your heart's had time to heal, so now

1241
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: it's time for someone new. You know, it's been that's

1242
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: it's been twenty years or what I mean, it's been

1243
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: three years since we lost. I'm not claiming that I'm

1244
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 1: like heartbroken over Princess Tight every day. I'm just saying

1245
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: that there, you know, there was some attachment to the

1246
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: idea of Princess Diana and Taylor Swift is a similar archetype.

1247
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: In my book Goodbye English Rose by Elton John great

1248
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: song or the greatest song ever? Neither? All right, hot

1249
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: take good stuff, guys. The greatest song ever? That? Yeah, no,

1250
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: not even close. Come on, do you think believe it is?

1251
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess it's It's subjective. So um uh,

1252
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 1: you were still podcasting, guys. Sten had to sign it

1253
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: off or arm the old boss Ricky Hollywood. It was