WEBVTT - Nick Fuentes Explains Pornography to Tucker Carlson

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media.

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<v Speaker 2>This is it could happen here. I'm Garrison Davis joined

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<v Speaker 2>by Robert Evans. Last week, I released an episode on

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<v Speaker 2>the ascent of white nationalist live streamer Nick Fuentes and

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<v Speaker 2>his groper fans among particularly young gen Z Republicans. The

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<v Speaker 2>episode also tracked the conservative infighting at Heritage Foundation and

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Shapiro's Daily Wire in the aftermath of Tucker Carlson's

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<v Speaker 2>Friendly sit Down interview with Nick Fuentes. In the episode,

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned that I had an extra segment covering the

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<v Speaker 2>final section of the interview. Now, most coverage of this interview,

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<v Speaker 2>including my episode last week, focused on like the first

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<v Speaker 2>two thirds, which ranged from like Nick Fuentes's political background,

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<v Speaker 2>early beef with Ben Shapiro and his like Nazisque anti

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<v Speaker 2>Semitic theories of a quote unquote organized world jewelry corrupting America,

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<v Speaker 2>which he now lightly couches in anti Israel framing to

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<v Speaker 2>profit off of the genocide in Palestine. But the last

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<v Speaker 2>third of the interview changes course to discuss the mechanisms

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<v Speaker 2>of quote unquote reality distortion which are ruining young men, drugs, alcohol,

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<v Speaker 2>the Internet, and most importantly, pornography. After receiving a universal

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<v Speaker 2>response demanding the release of the porn cut. I have

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<v Speaker 2>sat down with Robert here to finally, finally air what

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<v Speaker 2>no other news platform is brave enough, brave enough to cover?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, no, what new other news platform can legally

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<v Speaker 3>cover because they have a duty to their employees to

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<v Speaker 3>not make them research this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or like an actual healthy HR department.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we have not finished our classes on what we're

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<v Speaker 3>not allowed to make people do. So said now, to

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<v Speaker 3>be fair, Garrison couldn't be stopped from researching this.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no way of stopping you from doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a sick drive.

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<v Speaker 3>You would have started working for someone else, so we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't let you do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if if Sophie told me I wasn't allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>cover this, I would have quit immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, started working for Wired or someone.

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<v Speaker 2>So now I am very pleased to present to you

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<v Speaker 2>probably thirty thirty minutes of Nick foint As explaining to

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<v Speaker 2>a performatively confused Tucker Carlson the concept of pornography. And

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<v Speaker 2>I guess if we're gonna view you know, Fuenttes and

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<v Speaker 2>the gropers as like a serious, legitimate threat that's able

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<v Speaker 2>to sway national political discourse. I think it's also important

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<v Speaker 2>to cover his weird sexual politics, just as explaining the

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<v Speaker 2>weird sexual practices of like, you know, the Proud Boys

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<v Speaker 2>is important for understanding their whole deal as like a

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<v Speaker 2>neo fascist streak gang, the kind of closeted gay in

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<v Speaker 2>cell women. The issues of the gropers is actually really important,

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<v Speaker 2>especially for Nick, and let's discuss that. But thankfully we

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<v Speaker 2>get to start off with the majority majority of the section,

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<v Speaker 2>which is which is on pornography. Let's start one of

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<v Speaker 2>the first clips.

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<v Speaker 4>What is porn exactly? Like, describe how available is porn?

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<v Speaker 5>What is it?

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<v Speaker 2>My god?

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<v Speaker 3>Because he does ask that like a man who's legitimately

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<v Speaker 3>never heard of pornography.

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<v Speaker 2>He does. He later says like, obviously he is familiar

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<v Speaker 2>with the rough concept of porn, uh huh, but maybe not,

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<v Speaker 2>but maybe not this sort of internet porn obsession, to

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<v Speaker 2>which Nick refers, let's let's skip ahead about a minute

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<v Speaker 2>where where Nick kind of closes on his explanation of

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<v Speaker 2>Internet porn specifically.

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<v Speaker 1>So, something that is almost ever talked about is that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a generation that's totally sexually dysfunctional, I think

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<v Speaker 1>because of pornography and some people are able to cope

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<v Speaker 1>with it. Some people don't have a problem, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people, and maybe the small minority,

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<v Speaker 1>have a serious problem with it.

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<v Speaker 5>And the problem people sexually dysfunctional.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it's impossible for a real woman to

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<v Speaker 1>compete with the availability and the novelty of pornography.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is that is Nick's kind of ending argument

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<v Speaker 2>at the tail end of his definition of porn and

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<v Speaker 2>how porn is affecting specifically American men. A little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of his in cel status is obviously seeping through there.

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<v Speaker 2>More of it will become increasingly evident throughout throughout this interview.

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<v Speaker 2>But this idea of sexual dysfunction, how porn is ruining

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<v Speaker 2>men's ability to get into relationships, is ruining the ability

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<v Speaker 2>to get into marriages, lasting marriages, and it. He frames

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of slightly as the fault of men, but

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<v Speaker 2>also really as the fault of women. Women aren't able

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<v Speaker 2>to compete with how much porn there is, the different

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<v Speaker 2>categories of porn. How can one woman please a man

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<v Speaker 2>when a man can go on to the internet and

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<v Speaker 2>look up, you know, fifty different Niche fetishes that not

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<v Speaker 2>one woman could provide. Yeah, and that's part of his

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<v Speaker 2>argument at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's always like been the Okay, so you've

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<v Speaker 3>just you've never had a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Which Nick is open about at least Nick claims that, right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>It's unclear how true a lot of Nick's claims are

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<v Speaker 2>about his like in cell vall cell in voluntary celibate, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a type deal, But no Nick, Nick does claim that,

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<v Speaker 2>and the sort of pushback Nick will receive later on

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<v Speaker 2>in the interview on some of these aspects is actually

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<v Speaker 2>way stronger than any of the world jewelry, anti semitic

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<v Speaker 2>stuff from earlier in the interview. Yeah, which Carlson was

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<v Speaker 2>vague actually kind of like trying to shape Nick quent

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<v Speaker 2>as his rhetoric to make him like appeal to a

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<v Speaker 2>bigger audience, but did not really push back on to

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<v Speaker 2>the same extent he does on a Nick's like relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with women. But the sexual dysfunction aspect, I think is

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<v Speaker 2>the is the ending argument for Nick here in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of what actually makes porn bad. He extrapolates on this

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<v Speaker 2>point in this next section which I'll play Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Porn is you could have one hundred different women in

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<v Speaker 1>one sitting doing anything that whatever niche or idiosyncratic thing

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<v Speaker 1>a person might be into. It's there, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>think that novelty combined with that availability and makes it

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<v Speaker 1>so that, you know, when you think about courting a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>juice isn't worth the squeeze. So there's like also a

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<v Speaker 1>problem of like a rectile dysfunction, people that can't enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>regular sex because it does not compare to the intensity

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<v Speaker 1>the novelty and the availability of porn. It's hyper stimulation.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think that's sabotaging a lot of normal

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<v Speaker 1>sexual relationships. It seems like it's making a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people gay too, Yeah, and trans you think that's true?

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<v Speaker 6>One?

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<v Speaker 2>What is that?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, what is that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know where to start there.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like it's it's what these people have always believed,

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<v Speaker 3>right that, Like that's the There's got to be an explanation,

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of cause why people like things that that

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<v Speaker 3>they're not allowed to admit to liking in public. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's got to be the fault of pornography, right, or

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<v Speaker 3>libraries whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time Tucker interjects the beauty of his of his

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<v Speaker 2>little like befuddled interjections, what is that? Is that real?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that true. It's it's fantastic, but yeah, no, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean Nick kind of blames the rise in homosexuality and

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<v Speaker 2>transsexuality on this like novelty of pornography and this sexual desensitization.

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<v Speaker 2>Like once regular porn it doesn't do it for people.

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<v Speaker 2>They get pushed to more and more extreme categories, of

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<v Speaker 2>which transporn is somehow particularly effective at like influencing and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, manipulating human behavior. Right, this is like the

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<v Speaker 2>sissy hypno theory that porn can like make somebody trans. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>very goofy stuff. Specifically for Nick considering his curious catboy

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<v Speaker 2>background and his alleged leak viewership of transporn, which might

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<v Speaker 2>we might discuss later. I'm going to play play another

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<v Speaker 2>clip kind of on this note, a shorter one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that if you are somebody that uses pornography

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<v Speaker 1>multiple times per day, which many people do, actually, oh absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of druk.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a huge problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot of cherking off.

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<v Speaker 2>Former Fox News anchor Tucker.

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<v Speaker 5>Car jerking off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a lot of chirk it off. I so badly,

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to cut some of these clips out

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<v Speaker 2>of like out of contact, just put them in my

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<v Speaker 2>other episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Tucker only comes once a year, and he can only

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<v Speaker 3>come by wrapping his dick inside of two frozen Swanson's meals.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got to kind of use like, you know how

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<v Speaker 3>it's got like there's a little diffits on the back end.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got to use that to cushion his penis. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the only way he can come.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fairly edipal thing with his you know, family business.

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<v Speaker 2>This this sort of like psychosexual drive. Wow, the Swans

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<v Speaker 2>of it all. Of course that makes sense for Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that makes sense for Tucker. But Nonick says that porn

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<v Speaker 2>like operates kind of like drug tolerance levels, which like

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<v Speaker 2>over time after repetitive use, in order to get high,

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<v Speaker 2>the user must seek out strong drugs or dangerously intense doses,

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<v Speaker 2>of which he views transport. Is this like dangerous dose?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I do love like the the through line

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<v Speaker 3>with these people that like both this is like a

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<v Speaker 3>sickening degeneracy and also is so appealing that people absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>cannot help themselves to it, like it affects them like heroin.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's it's so inherently attractive.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, so some of that might be their actual

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<v Speaker 2>proclivities kind of yes, I think, kind of peeking out

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<v Speaker 2>from under the surface there, because all of these guys

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<v Speaker 2>love watching transport, all of these like anti trans people,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's Alex Jones or like Nick Fuentes, Like obviously

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<v Speaker 2>they have they have an interest in that, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what kind of drives them of their obsession.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which is it's it's just weird, Like I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know anyone who talks about any pornography that way, Like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, every everyone's got whatever it is they're into,

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<v Speaker 3>like something that they'll be particularly interested in, but no

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<v Speaker 3>one describes as like it's just this kind of thing

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<v Speaker 3>no one can resisted obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>Sort of like powerful obsessive nature in which these types

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<v Speaker 2>of right wing freaks like refer to it as the.

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<v Speaker 3>Like actual perverts will say stuff like no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been shoving things inside my phole for the last

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seven years and now I can get up to

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<v Speaker 3>something the width of a mag light and I know

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<v Speaker 3>that's crazy, Like I know no one else does that.

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<v Speaker 5>That's just a me faith.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, someone needs to explain sounding to Tucker Carlson, is

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm what I'm saying, Like I if, I if

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<v Speaker 3>he interviews me, I'm gonna walk him through sounding I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna use together a PowerPoint with photos.

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<v Speaker 2>He's obviously he's obviously uh open open to this line

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<v Speaker 2>of discussion. Are we allowed to have ads on this episode?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Probably not, but let's throw to him anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we are we are. Nick Fuentes is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>continue continue to describe pornography towards a slightly confused Tucker Carlston. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>now Nick is able to really speak from a sense

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<v Speaker 2>of authority as someone who claims to have never had sex,

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<v Speaker 2>He's able to really speak with authority on this topic,

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<v Speaker 2>which I will, I will. I'll play this next clip.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's something too about what it does when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at it, when you because people don't realize that

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<v Speaker 1>it is a fundamentally different experience.

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<v Speaker 2>People don't realize being.

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<v Speaker 1>Involved in intercourse versus watching other people have intercourse.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that actually does something to you. Tell me,

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<v Speaker 5>what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I'm just stop there for a sec. People don't

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<v Speaker 2>realize this amazing observation from alleged version in cell Nick Fuentes,

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<v Speaker 2>He's trying to make this point about like body depersonalization

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<v Speaker 2>or like disassociation when watching porns like this, like out

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<v Speaker 2>of body experience because you start associating yourself with people

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<v Speaker 2>on screen. That's eventually what he starts talking about, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And but he couches this in saying that, like, people

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<v Speaker 2>don't realize that this is what this is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>different from actual sex, which is really funny because Nick

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<v Speaker 2>is proudly proclaims that he's never had sex before, so

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<v Speaker 2>he is in no position to argue at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>No, Yeah, that's the other thing. How would you know

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<v Speaker 3>that it's inherently better than sex, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he's never had I think that he has to

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<v Speaker 2>assume that because that's the only information he has. But

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<v Speaker 2>I love his framing of this is like new novel

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<v Speaker 2>information that no one else has access to, that no

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<v Speaker 2>one realizes that watching port is different from having sex. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Tucker's response is just phenomenal at the end of this,

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<v Speaker 2>because Tucker's like trying trying to coax more and more

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<v Speaker 2>shit out of him. It's really the only time where

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<v Speaker 2>he's kind of being a sly interviewer is at this

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<v Speaker 2>ending porn section. It's not the it's not the are

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<v Speaker 2>you a fed section. It's not the Daily Wires stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the anti Semitism stuff, it's it's specifically the

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<v Speaker 2>port section. But to explain this like out of body

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<v Speaker 2>theory that Nick that Nick has here, Unfortunately, Nick gets

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<v Speaker 2>into trying to explain the Blanchardian theory of trend sexuality

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<v Speaker 2>towards towards Tucker Carlson, of which I will only play

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<v Speaker 2>a certain segment of because we don't need to hear

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<v Speaker 2>that whole thing. But there is a section of this

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<v Speaker 2>next clip that which we'll get into that as well

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<v Speaker 2>as take you on kind of a beautiful journey showcasing

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<v Speaker 2>Tucker's objection to pornography.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you know, for example, I think Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Sailor has written about this that there's multiple kinds of transsexuals,

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<v Speaker 1>and he says a one kind of transsexual is somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that likes the idea of seeing themselves as a woman's

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<v Speaker 1>auto ginophilia. Yes, And I think that you know one

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<v Speaker 1>of the theories for that is you you watch a

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<v Speaker 1>man having sex with a woman that is in you

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<v Speaker 1>so much, you kind of achieve an identity with the

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<v Speaker 1>woman in like a worstic way. You almost identify with

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<v Speaker 1>the woman, and so there's weird things that happen when

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching that and having such strong emotional and sexual experiences.

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<v Speaker 5>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, Nick, that's.

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<v Speaker 5>Interesting stuff, Nick.

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<v Speaker 4>I've always been I've sensed for a long time having

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<v Speaker 4>had a lot of young male employees mentioned porn as

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<v Speaker 4>a problem. I mean, the big porn companies give visibility

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<v Speaker 4>to foreign intel services on the.

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<v Speaker 5>Back foot, so that means people know what.

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<v Speaker 4>You're looking at. There's likely video and audio of you watching.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, there's so much I love that Tucker's made.

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<v Speaker 2>Objection to photography isn't the stuff that Nick's talking about

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<v Speaker 2>at all, but the idea that it poses a security

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<v Speaker 2>risk because of foreign intel services.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that they're they're recording everyone masturbating.

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<v Speaker 2>To blackmail every single person on the planet. And he

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<v Speaker 2>couches us and saying that he's quote not a huge

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<v Speaker 2>expert on the topic. Yeah, which is really good. But

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<v Speaker 2>to go back a little bit, the level of projection

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<v Speaker 2>Nick is doing here with this identifying as a woman

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the porn thing is simply phenomenal. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>especially considering the whole you know, catboys scandal, which I

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<v Speaker 2>covered on the show like years ago as when I

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<v Speaker 2>was like a baby, as well as Nick's like alleged

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<v Speaker 2>trans porn league, which I guess I'll explain to here briefly.

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<v Speaker 2>This was in twenty twenty two. Nick allegedly was operating

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<v Speaker 2>a SoC puppet Twitter account when he was banned on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>This this account shared a clip scrolling through Nick Fuentes

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<v Speaker 2>like analytics, like video analytics, like search of analytics, showing

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<v Speaker 2>his popularity. And when scrolling through these various tabs, a

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<v Speaker 2>little section of a tab that that didn't did not

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<v Speaker 2>get into full view, but you get you saw the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of it which looked a lot like a very

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<v Speaker 2>specific trans femboy porn video on porn hub. People found

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<v Speaker 2>that video, and after they found the video, you know this,

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<v Speaker 2>This this post with these analytics was like taken down

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<v Speaker 2>and this account was believed to be operated by Nick Fuentez. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Nick claims that he obviously was not behind this account,

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<v Speaker 2>that this was some like a groper fan who was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to set him up for scandal by operating an

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<v Speaker 2>account that appeared to be Nick's account on Twitter but

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<v Speaker 2>actually wasn't. I Robert, I will show you a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of this analytics video we don't need to see

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing. But it's like this, okay, so various

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<v Speaker 2>various tabs. Look, look at all these tabs. This various,

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<v Speaker 2>Like when does Jake Lloyd explore what comparing his popularity

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<v Speaker 2>towards other other like commentators.

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<v Speaker 3>He was comparing his popularity to fucking Jake Lloyd from

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<v Speaker 3>the Face.

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<v Speaker 2>And Menace from the Phantom Menace.

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<v Speaker 5>You should be beating him, Nick.

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<v Speaker 2>But like web traffic analytics Joe Ken to Google trends

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<v Speaker 2>and then let's see if I can find it right

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<v Speaker 2>right here at the top. Yeah, right here at the top.

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<v Speaker 2>Was scrolling through the tabs on the iPhone. Safari is

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<v Speaker 2>a a little peorn tab, right yeah. So this this

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<v Speaker 2>turned into a little, a little mini thing with people

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that they secretly stumbled across the Knick's porn porn

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<v Speaker 2>watching habits, of which it would be no surprise that

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<v Speaker 2>he'd be watching transfenboy porn, especially again considering that he

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<v Speaker 2>operated a catboy discord channel on his server. But he

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<v Speaker 2>has staunchly denied this, as you know, as a based

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<v Speaker 2>Catholic in cell obviously, so both Tucker and Nick believe

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<v Speaker 2>that porn is a big factor affecting the decline of

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<v Speaker 2>actual sex and marriage among gen Z. And it's not

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<v Speaker 2>just a male problem. Nick argues that it has become

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<v Speaker 2>a quote unquote so destigmatized for women to participate in

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<v Speaker 2>porn as well, of which he's mostly referring to only fans.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a clip of them discuss it only fans.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is completely casual, you know, because you could

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<v Speaker 1>say that maybe ten years ago, even at the heyday

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<v Speaker 1>of internet porn, to be in porn, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>be a porn star, Like that's your life and that's

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<v Speaker 1>your career, and that's who you are. And it's very

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<v Speaker 1>shameful with only fans. It's like it's like having a TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like here's my link tree, here's my Instagram account,

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<v Speaker 1>here's my Facebook out, here's my YouTube, and here's.

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<v Speaker 5>My only fans. Why would any of this be legal?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that, well, there's, like you indicated, maybe there's

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<v Speaker 1>an intelligence benefit to that. Yeah, maybe there's a political

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<v Speaker 1>benefit to that. I think that, well, why wouldn't you

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<v Speaker 1>arrest the people who run something like that? They should

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<v Speaker 1>be if you had a Christian government, or how about

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<v Speaker 1>government and cares about its people. I mean, is Iron

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger threat or is only fans? A Ron's not

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<v Speaker 1>turning my daughters to prostitution, I'm aware.

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<v Speaker 2>Of right, Oh my god, is Iron a bigger threat

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<v Speaker 2>or is only fans?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's the real geopolitical question the wisest minds.

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<v Speaker 2>No, what a what a beautiful mind that is?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like even be able to think of the sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Iran a bigger threat than only fans?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I could never even get myself to a point

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<v Speaker 2>where where I conjured that thought in my own head.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to ban pornography because it's the Iran of masturbation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's frankly beautiful in order to get their minds so

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<v Speaker 2>so degraded to even have this thought, it's so alien,

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<v Speaker 2>man like. Later, Tucker pushes kind of on this point

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<v Speaker 2>about the need to arrest people who run only fans,

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<v Speaker 2>while Nick kind of quietly remarks that it's it's really

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<v Speaker 2>the women or the quote unquote body assets who should

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<v Speaker 2>be arrested. But Tucker Tucker is pretty firm on no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really like the facilitators, people hosting the website or

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<v Speaker 2>enabling this. But you know, Nick and Nick would be

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<v Speaker 2>totally fine if women on the platform also get arrested.

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<v Speaker 2>Man Ah. Again, the insistence that the primary objection or

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<v Speaker 2>like a causal a causal aspect of why why is

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<v Speaker 2>this allowed? It's for like intelligence gathering services is simply beautiful?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what else is beautiful? Robert?

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<v Speaker 3>The sponsors of this podcast, they are for putting up

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<v Speaker 3>with this.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, all right, we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>Before this final segment, we will we will transcend the

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<v Speaker 2>discussion of porn and and just talk more about some

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<v Speaker 2>of Nick's opinions on on like women, oh good, and

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<v Speaker 2>other factors beyond porn. For why you know, marriage is

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<v Speaker 2>a happening? Why aren't people getting married as much anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, of which both Tucker and Nick think porn

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<v Speaker 2>is a factor. But there's other factors contributing to this crisis,

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<v Speaker 2>which Nick and Tucker will will elucidate. Let's hear him out.

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<v Speaker 5>So what are the.

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<v Speaker 4>Other factors that prevent I'm sorry I called you gay,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, but I'm always I think I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>too old or something. I'm like, what, why is anyone married?

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<v Speaker 4>You tell me why isn't Why an't people married?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, honestly, it's the women, all right, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we solve that problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, yeah, that's it. I think that does it for us,

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<v Speaker 2>that it could happen here. They got to the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>of that pretty quickly. Sorry I called you gay, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, So no. Now it's time for the wise

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<v Speaker 2>in selsation, Nick Fuentes to bestow his wisdom pertaining to

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<v Speaker 2>relationships and marriage, and in his eyes, the main problem

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be that not just women, but specifically that

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<v Speaker 2>women are too liberal. Yeah, really breaking new ground there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure, that's uh, that's it. That's the problem because

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<v Speaker 3>then they don't like all of the Nick flintest fans.

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<v Speaker 5>The men are extremely conservative increasingly, the women are extremely liberal.

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<v Speaker 5>What are they liberal on? What issues?

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<v Speaker 6>Like?

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<v Speaker 5>What does that mean liberal?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>On on out?

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<v Speaker 1>They're very feminist, like actually extremely feminist. Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe that, do they? I think they do, really absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't believe that gender rules are a construct, that

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<v Speaker 4>none of this is inborn, Like you have to be

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<v Speaker 4>an idiot to think that they like the idea of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Tucker's delivery. I want to study it more.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like they sketched some of this out before

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<v Speaker 3>they did this, because I feel like they're both leading

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<v Speaker 3>each other to get out statements that they want to say.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, it's so crafted here, like they're back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth exchange is so is so crafted. Every every inflection

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<v Speaker 2>they have, they're like giving each other these key points

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<v Speaker 2>to then extrap laid on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and there's the stuff that's willful, like the claims

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<v Speaker 3>that well, young men are conservative, which is based on

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<v Speaker 3>like a shift towards Trump that's partly reversed over the

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<v Speaker 3>last year or so, but that was not the vast

0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:18.880
<v Speaker 3>majority of gen Z people, right, Like, it's it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>young people are willing to like try out different things

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<v Speaker 3>and swing back and forth. But like, it's not it's

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<v Speaker 3>not the way he's framing it, right, because that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>the most convenient narrative for the right, that like all

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<v Speaker 3>of the young men are pulling towards the right, and

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<v Speaker 3>so the problem is that women are more progressive, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, therefore it has to be liberal women. Yeah, right, No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's a very it's a very convenient excuse to

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<v Speaker 2>explain actually a complex set of economic problems which are

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<v Speaker 2>preventing people from feeling comfortable enough to actually start a

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<v Speaker 2>family and you know, safe enough economically speaking. Nick goes

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<v Speaker 2>on to complain about, you know, women lying about wanting equality,

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to work, when really all they want is a

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote tough chad quote. The whole political system is

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<v Speaker 2>based around women never being accountable for any of their

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<v Speaker 2>choices unquote. This is namely abortion and no false divorce,

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<v Speaker 2>which Nick spends a while talking about how that has

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<v Speaker 2>been a significant contributing factor towards ruining this country. How

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<v Speaker 2>women can enter marriages and leave for whatever reason they want,

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<v Speaker 2>taking half the money, taking half the stuff, etc. Etc.

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<v Speaker 2>There's another factor that Nick claims is is contributing to

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<v Speaker 2>this problem.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a very high estimation of themselves. I think

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<v Speaker 1>people call it hope flation, their inflation. Yes, their sense

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<v Speaker 1>of their own looks and sexual value is very inflated.

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<v Speaker 2>I just had to put the wheflation clip in there.

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<v Speaker 3>The hope flation, Yes, Tucker Carlson saying, hope flation. It's

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<v Speaker 3>truly a moment for us all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Again, I really want to just displice some of

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<v Speaker 2>these soundbits into my other episode at random points. Now again,

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<v Speaker 2>Tucker actually pushes back in some of like the in

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<v Speaker 2>between sections here, and I'll play some of that pushback later.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, way more than the rest of the interview,

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<v Speaker 2>So specifically, here Tucker is actually pushing back on Nick's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of resigned blame directed towards women and the quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote legal incentive structures that he says are contributing to this.

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<v Speaker 2>And Tucker responds by saying, even if some of these

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:29.640
<v Speaker 2>complaints are true, as believers in the natural patriarchy, isn't

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:33.199
<v Speaker 2>it men's role to take responsibility, lead by example, and

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:36.359
<v Speaker 2>to fix this behavior in women through marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would say that because I hear this all

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:40.639
<v Speaker 1>the time. People say, well, the men need to step

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:43.680
<v Speaker 1>up and be better and lead the women easier said

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 1>than done.

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<v Speaker 5>Go on, you know, I agree with that.

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 1>They're at war with the system, and not even just

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the system, but also society.

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 2>So this is this is the full like joker piled

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:56.639
<v Speaker 2>and sale stuff, is that in order to have an

0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 2>actual relationship with women, men have to enter into con

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 2>against quote unquote society. Right like this, it is larger.

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:08.360
<v Speaker 2>It's larger thing that's influencing women and is making them,

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, depraved and liberal. And Nick argues that even

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 2>if you find like a nice trad Christian girl, they're

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna be on TikTok. They're gonna be on Instagram and

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 2>they're going to be quote unquote talking to other women,

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 2>and through osmosis, they're gonna get influenced by this liberal

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 2>culture and say, ten, fifteen, twenty years down the line,

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.360
<v Speaker 2>people will change and they may not be so Christian

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 2>and trad twenty years into your marriage because of society.

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 3>Huh yeah, I mean, I guess that's the argument I

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:40.639
<v Speaker 3>expected from him.

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 2>He'll extratholate some of his reasoning here.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that women as kind of the ultimate conformists,

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:50.720
<v Speaker 1>the ultimate enforcers of like social norms. I think eventually

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:53.399
<v Speaker 1>the pressure from society kind of gets to them, and

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them will go into.

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 4>Depends what husbands they have. I mean, if there's real

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 4>leadership at home. I don't know a single happily married

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:03.920
<v Speaker 4>who's liberal, not one. I know a lot of married women.

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 2>Here's some of the pushback that Tucker is doing now.

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, man, this idea of you know, the women

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:13.919
<v Speaker 2>as the ultimate conformists is the enforcers of social norms, right,

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 2>This is like kind of like the long House type stuff.

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 2>And Tucker's rebuke of that is that in an actual

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, marriage with a conservative man, a strong conservative man,

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 2>all that behavior will get changed because people will fall

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:32.920
<v Speaker 2>into like their natural biological patriarchal roles. But Nick still

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:34.680
<v Speaker 2>doesn't buy it. Like he is he is he is

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 2>an insul at heart. Here's no way that that Tucker's

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of pushback, it's gonna it's gonna turn him on this.

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Like Nick just hates women entirely. This whole motivation is

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 2>that due to some sort of like fascist homo erotic

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 2>like aspect, maybe, but it's it's probably even more complicated

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 2>than that. I mean, part of the fascist fenboy thing

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 2>is people who actually aren't even gay but just hate

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 2>women so much that they end up being gay because

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 2>that's like the only mode of connection they can even

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 2>or like physical connection. They can even like muster themselves

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 2>to do, which I explained in that episode from you

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 2>know a few years ago when I was a baby.

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, this is definitely some stuff at play here,

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 2>and I mean Nick will always just find new things

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 2>to complain about in regards to this sort of stuff,

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 2>like the quote unquote epidemic of simps.

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 4>So like maybe the job is to make a girl

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 4>happy and like all this nonsense ends.

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't know.

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that that could be a bottomless pit too,

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 1>because my critique I have of the men is, and

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>you're right about this, they enable this behavior.

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 5>Well, that's for sure.

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 1>It's epidemic of simps who and especially with Christians, I've

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>noticed this epidemic of sex.

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's something else.

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Marriage has this bottomless pit. Like I also love.

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 3>The idea that Tucker's like, well, why are men just

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 3>making women happy? And you know the answer there for

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Tucker is that people like you are not capable of

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 3>making other people happy. But Nick can't even consider that

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 3>because the idea of women being happy is deeply offensive

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 3>to him.

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean Nick says that simp culture, or more specifically,

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 2>a backlash to simp culture, is why people like Andrew

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Tate have gotten so popular despite being a quote unquote

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Muslim polchemist, because Tate is quote putting a women in

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 2>their place unquote, as opposed to Christian men who are

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 2>tone policing each other and are worshiping women and worshiping

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 2>their wives, which Tucker pushes back on a bit by

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 2>saying that the New Testament commands men to love their

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 2>wives and that wives respect their husbands. We got only

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 2>two more at clips left, but I think they are

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 2>very revealing, all right, as much else needs to be

0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 2>revealed here.

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 4>I do think I've just noticed this that men who

0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 4>stay unmarried for too long become like kind of fragile.

0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 4>There's something about the given take. There's something about living

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 4>with In fact, I think it's the key to life

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 4>someone you don't fully understand. That broadens you, that keeps

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 4>you always thinking, That makes you wiser, more patient, more thoughtful,

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 4>more self aware, uh, and more flexible.

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 5>And those are all good qualities.

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 4>And the and the absence of that, like in homosexuality,

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 4>or like men who are single too long, they get

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 4>very rigid.

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 5>Have you ever noticed this?

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever noticed this?

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 5>I like things the way I like them, and they

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 5>just get like no, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. You don't

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 5>want that really, because that's who you are. Nick.

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I would say that when when you say you don't

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>fully understand women. To me, I feel like women are

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>very simple in terms of you ever lived with one?

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 5>I haven't lived with them, but I.

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Meant, oh, man, women are really simple. Have you ever

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 2>lived with one? No?

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 3>It's really funny up until the assuming all gay pe

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 3>fully the same bit. Tucker's making a good point, which

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 3>is that like part of what's healthy about relationships is

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 3>like living with someone who's not like you, right, just

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 3>like that makes us better people.

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 2>And he's very clearly trying to like like push Nick's

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 2>buttons here, Yeah, because he knows, he knows, he knows,

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 2>because Nick's getting called out because yeah, he's this angry,

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 2>unmarried guy. He's this like yeah, little little unhinged freak. Yeah.

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh and yeah, he's like getting he's absolutely getting called

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 2>out here. And it's funny that this is the thing

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 2>out of the out of the entire interview that that

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:37.560
<v Speaker 2>that Tucker really tries to harp on. It's it's this

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 2>married thing, Like he really wants Nick to get married.

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 2>That's kind of the main thing he's really pushing for

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 2>by the end of this interview.

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, bro, that's gonna happen.

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever lived with one? Well no, no, of

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 2>course not. It's wild. I mean well, later Nick tries

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 2>to argue that, you know, it's it's really the men

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 2>who are complicated, because men have a quote deep can

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 2>to math and space unquote.

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Sure, yeah, man, I love my deep connection to math

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 3>and space.

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Robert's so good at math and space.

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's really my strong suits math and space. Anyone

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 3>that knows you, I would say, every man I know

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 3>is good at math and space.

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 2>Versus you know, women just operate on primal base in course. Yes,

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Nick says quote men are masters of the universe, women

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 2>are the universe, which I think is a quote from

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 2>someone else.

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, god, yeah, you're a real master of

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 3>the universe, Nick.

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 2>This will be the final clip where Tucker will offer

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:44.959
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more pushback towards Nick on some of

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 2>his views about women and marriage. You've got a pretty

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 2>clear look into into Nick's an interiority here as well.

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 4>So, but anyway, but what are the point of men

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 4>want to talk past each other constantly? They don't always

0:33:56.920 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 4>know what the other one is saying, and that frustration

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 4>actually gives way to like great beauty over time. I

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 4>would say, I don't know.

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I personally find women very frustrated when they are not expressing,

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and I.

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:14.839
<v Speaker 5>Just view that as any of it.

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 2>I see.

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 1>The way I look at is like when you look

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:22.800
<v Speaker 1>at your favorite TV shows, right, the Sopranos Breaking Bad,

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like the wife is the villain, because it's like

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 1>the main character, if the wife could just get out

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>of the way, would be running the show. And that's

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of how I feel like iin rand I agree

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:37.319
<v Speaker 1>with her about this. She said that the wife's role

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 1>is like hero worship. The guy is the hero. The

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:44.360
<v Speaker 1>guy is supposed to be the entrepreneur, the conqueror or whatever,

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 1>and the woman is really supposed to support the man's

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 1>goals and be in his world.

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 5>And I van that's the well House.

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 4>Thing successful men need is more power worship, more, a

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.799
<v Speaker 4>hero worship more. You're so great when you get that

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:59.479
<v Speaker 4>at work, you don't want that at home. You become

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 4>an unbeara pray destroys every successful man, which is hubrist,

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 4>Like you mistake yourself for God. You need someone who's

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 4>not interested in what you do at all, only interested

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 4>in you. And that's how you become balanced and wise.

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 4>That's how you know your own limits.

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:19.880
<v Speaker 3>That's shockingly good advice from Tucker Carlson, Like this, this

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:20.880
<v Speaker 3>is so beautiful.

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 2>This is so beautiful to me. When Tucker Carlson is

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 2>the voice of reason, it's it's really really scary weak. Yeah,

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 2>but no, so clearly is next like a closet and

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:38.280
<v Speaker 2>gay in cell showing here, well, like, well, Tucker pains

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:42.400
<v Speaker 2>pains to explain to Nick why people actually get into

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 2>a relationships. Yeah, and Nick just can't do it. He

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 2>starts talking about the Sopranos and fucking breaking bad. That's

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:54.319
<v Speaker 2>like the only framework in which you could understand this,

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 2>because he's never had a real relationship. The wife is

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 2>the villain, I agree with ein Rand. Yeah, famously well

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 2>adjusted in the relationship department. Iin Rand, the wife's role

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 2>is hero worship. And Tucker's like, oh my god, No,

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 2>that's horrible. Oh no, that's that's what ruins people, that

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 2>destroys people. It's fascinating. No, yeah, this is a this

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 2>is a truly fascinating exchange. And it's really telling that

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.360
<v Speaker 2>this is the thing that Tucker pushes back on, not

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 2>the anti semitism, but she like kind of tepidly offered

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Nick advice on how to change his rhetoric to be

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.280
<v Speaker 2>more appealing, but did not push back on the substance

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 2>of it, because Tucker is actually just as anti semitic

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 2>as Nick is. Yeah, but no, this is this is

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:39.120
<v Speaker 2>the thing that he that he decided to do, and yeah,

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 2>like my initial feeling after watching this whole two hour

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 2>and eighteen minute stream is like this whole stream or

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:48.840
<v Speaker 2>this whole episode felt like Tucker was kind of trying

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 2>to be some sort of mentor figure to Neck or

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:54.239
<v Speaker 2>saw that Nick might be the future in some way,

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:55.840
<v Speaker 2>like might be the whether whether it's the future of

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 2>the party or future of like you know, this sort

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 2>of like commentating class or style, and it kind of

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 2>wanted to offer a little bit of a guiding light

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 2>towards someone who I think Tucker does see, as you know,

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 2>having some obvious issues and saying some nasty things and

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:12.359
<v Speaker 2>wanting to kind of write that course in a way

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:14.440
<v Speaker 2>or provide Nick a bit of a fresh start to

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 2>restate some of his views on the biggest right wing

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.480
<v Speaker 2>platform online, which is which is Tucker's show right now.

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:22.759
<v Speaker 2>I guess that's kind of That's kind of all I

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 2>have on this women in Poorn section. I guess the

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:28.839
<v Speaker 2>last thing before we close, there is this question right

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 2>with people in the GOP who are scared about Nick's

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:37.320
<v Speaker 2>Nick's influence at least in the commentating classroom among like interns. Yeah,

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:40.239
<v Speaker 2>but specifically scared of it one because of the you know,

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:42.839
<v Speaker 2>anti Israel stuff, but also if that's going to hurt

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 2>them electorally. Right, A lot of people couch this and saying, well,

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, these views aren't popular with the electorate. Republicans

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 2>are never going to win elections if this Graper thing

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:55.879
<v Speaker 2>takes over and that leaves us, you know, people who

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:59.440
<v Speaker 2>are against against you know, the rise of fascism and

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<v Speaker 2>authoritary in kind of a weird spot because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think we can really do anything to encourage like the

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<v Speaker 2>gropperification of the GOP like an accelerationist fashion, but we

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<v Speaker 2>can kind of let it happen. Yeah, we can choose

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<v Speaker 2>to just let it happen, or we can choose to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stop it in like the twenty seventeen Antifa,

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<v Speaker 2>you know framework of like trying to prevent this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>from spreading because it will always lead to bad things.

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<v Speaker 2>And Yeah, after doing all this research last week and

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<v Speaker 2>really continuing into this week too, I mean, Trump just

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<v Speaker 2>gave a statement in support of Talker and saying that

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<v Speaker 2>he should get the word out about Nick Fuentes. I've

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<v Speaker 2>continued to be looking at this stuff and can we

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<v Speaker 2>even stop it though? At this point? Right, like how

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<v Speaker 2>much of the Antifa project like even succeeded considering where

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<v Speaker 2>we are now politically right. But no, there certainly is

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<v Speaker 2>this like internal debate in terms of letting this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>happen versus trying to actively oppose this like groper takeover

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<v Speaker 2>of the GOP.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I don't think there's realistically anything that

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<v Speaker 3>we can do to influence how popular Nick Fuintz is

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<v Speaker 3>on the right. Like if you just start screaming about

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<v Speaker 3>how bad and dangerous he is, that's going to convince

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people. Oh well, the left hates him.

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<v Speaker 3>That must mean you know he's our guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Likewise, I don't know. I don't think it's our place.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's our place to make sure people know

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<v Speaker 3>what Nick actually stands for. That if there's some sort

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<v Speaker 3>of like whitewashing of his character that they attempt to

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<v Speaker 3>do in order to make this more electorally viable, that

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<v Speaker 3>people are aware of, like how how unhinged this guy is,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think. I don't think the kind of shit

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<v Speaker 3>Nick is saying here will will do well when exposed

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<v Speaker 3>to the body politic as a whole, because it's nuts.

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<v Speaker 3>But that said, like, I don't think you can you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to scold your way out of this.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, And I guess part of the education is

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<v Speaker 2>making sure people have a more full understanding of Nick

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<v Speaker 2>fuint has his views on women and his uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and his little conversation on pornography. I think that actually

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<v Speaker 2>is important because all of these guys are weird little

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<v Speaker 2>in cell freaks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and people don't like how weird they are when

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<v Speaker 3>they're confronted with it. No, right, Mostly what they're concerned

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<v Speaker 3>about is whether or not there are jobs and shit

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<v Speaker 3>is more or less expensive. They don't want some weirdo

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<v Speaker 3>telling them that living with women will make them weaker.

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<v Speaker 2>No, even even Tucker doesn't like that. Yeah, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that does it for us today. At it could

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<v Speaker 3>Great.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I hope it's something too.

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