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Speaker 1: It is Monday.

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Speaker 2: What is the day today, the tenth of February twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: and it is time for a morning comment.

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Speaker 1: It's been time for when it's time.

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Speaker 3: That's so mad right now, so they understand.

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Speaker 2: What your terrible argument is about it. Apparently Eminem's rap

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Speaker 2: catalog is like two attractive women in their forties whatever.

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Speaker 1: Neither here nor there. Welcome everyone.

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Speaker 2: My name is Luke Thomas, host of this program alongside

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Speaker 2: my co host and trustee Steed Brian Campbell from CBS Sports,

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Speaker 2: among the variety of other places as well. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: you guys tuning in before we get to anything else.

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Speaker 2: Of course, please give the video a thumbs up subscribe

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Speaker 2: to the channel. We also appreciate that I do when

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Speaker 2: you do. We're trying to drive those numbers up. So

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Speaker 2: tell a friend. Yeah, I always tell folks to tell people.

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Speaker 3: Please do. Look. MK Ultra is like nothing else going

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Speaker 3: on in the combat world, Tay. Look, we tell the truth,

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Speaker 3: all right, and on Mondays at noon work sucks. I

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Speaker 3: know this is this is the remedy right there.

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Speaker 2: And also there's no there's no marketing in this world

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Speaker 2: like WM word of mouth.

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Speaker 1: That's the number one form of marketing.

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Speaker 3: So that's how you could pass a lot STDs that

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Speaker 3: way too, you know. Dual threat, yes, dual threat yes.

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Speaker 1: All right, we got a lot to get to. Did

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Speaker 1: you enjoy two forty seven?

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Speaker 3: By the way, No, that's fair. On paper, it was horrible,

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Speaker 3: and I saw some dunks in our comments trying to

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Speaker 3: defend it. By the way, there's certainly surprises people that

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Speaker 3: jumped out a couple of decent, good fights. Overall, though,

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Speaker 3: the controversy that came out of the Jones Ras fight

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Speaker 3: and the spin off debates that fuel shows like this

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Speaker 3: and your radio show all week, I'm sure it was entertaining.

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Speaker 3: It created a storyline. Had John won a lifeless decision

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Speaker 3: or sort of easily destroyed RAS, I think we would

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Speaker 3: have exited that card.

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Speaker 1: Going.

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Speaker 3: Man, they got to do a little bit more for us.

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Speaker 1: Let's kick it off.

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Speaker 2: We'll go to you first in here, all right, folks,

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Speaker 2: John Jones controversially, but John Jones retains his UFC light

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Speaker 2: heavyweight title. He wins a unanimous decision in Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 2: The scores were forty eight, forty seven, forty eight, forty seven,

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Speaker 2: forty nine, forty six. That means two judges had it

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Speaker 2: three rounds to two for John Jones. One judge had

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Speaker 2: it four rounds to one. All right, Brian Campbell, Yes,

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Speaker 2: let's get into this. I talked a lot about this

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Speaker 2: on the weekend on YouTube by my personal platforms, so

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Speaker 2: I would love to hear from you. First question is

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Speaker 2: this one? How did you score it?

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Speaker 3: Two?

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Speaker 1: Is it a robbery?

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Speaker 3: Forty eight? Forty seven was my scorecard for dom Reyis

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Speaker 3: was it a rounds? Rounds one, two and three, four

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Speaker 3: and five for John? I agreed with what you said

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Speaker 3: and dissected spoiler alert. Professor Salt and Pepper was there saying, look, one,

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Speaker 3: four and five, can't argue them. They're clear. Two and

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Speaker 3: three are sort of the closer competitive rounds. Robbery is

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Speaker 3: always such a tough word in this spot. Was this

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Speaker 3: a robbery? No? A robbery? And it sort of teases

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Speaker 3: the idea of corruption mixed with ignorance, right, I think

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Speaker 3: this is just a little bit more of ignorance. Boxing

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Speaker 3: fans were uniting Saturday night, going, oh, now, welcome, welcome

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Speaker 3: to the terror Dome. It's called Texas, right, Texas forever?

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Speaker 3: I mean, actually you can lose because we dom Reys

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Speaker 3: didn't he should have won that fight.

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Speaker 1: What was the palymon Nagi fight where he went crazy on.

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Speaker 3: The against the first one against against Wan Diaz And uh,

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Speaker 3: you know boxing is full of shit, man. I used

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Speaker 3: to love this sport. Great quote by by PAULI. By

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Speaker 3: the way, Look, here's the deal. We're already stuck in

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Speaker 3: a world in MMA in UFC at the highest level

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Speaker 3: where we are using an archaic boxing scoring system. State

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Speaker 3: by state. The commissions change the rules on so many

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Speaker 3: things anyway, as you saw Saturday night with Texas using

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Speaker 3: an archaic rule set, but the fact that they still

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Speaker 3: haven't figured out at the highest level. We see decisions

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Speaker 3: like this in boxing all the time, whether it's straight

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Speaker 3: it's just a combination of it all. Usually an m

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Speaker 3: at the highest level they get it right. I think

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Speaker 3: this was just not ready for prime time judges in

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Speaker 3: a state that isn't you know, always in the top

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Speaker 3: loop in terms of getting the top fights. Yeah, you'll

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Speaker 3: see pay per views in Dallas every once in a while,

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Speaker 3: but I think you just saw people who didn't necessarily

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Speaker 3: to sound like an angry, stupid hypocrite here. It was

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Speaker 3: a close fight in the end, John made a huge rally,

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Speaker 3: and if you had it three rounds to two for

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Speaker 3: John Jones, you're not like, let's kick you out the

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Speaker 3: door here. Okay, you could have preferred certain things. But

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Speaker 3: I went back and rewatch rounds two and three multiple

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Speaker 3: times as I'm sure you did, and came away with

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Speaker 3: the same thing. I don't see how you give John

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Speaker 3: Jones the second round. I really don't. We are scoring

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Speaker 3: damage at the end of the day. Rays came forward

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Speaker 3: for most of that round. He did much more activity.

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Speaker 3: It just seemed like that was a pretty clear round.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't one sided, but it was clear. Round three is

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Speaker 3: the problem round. But even within that, Luke, it's like,

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Speaker 3: are we just going to score for Jones because he

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Speaker 3: looked bad in the first two and because he came

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Speaker 3: forward in the third, he wasn't landing damaging shots. I

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Speaker 3: thought that in a very tactical round, which round three was,

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Speaker 3: Reyes was doing the better work. He was smartly mixing

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Speaker 3: gaps with activity. I just think in the end, you

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Speaker 3: could have it both ways, but you got to sit

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Speaker 3: there and say what do you prefer more? And if

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Speaker 3: you're giving round three to John Jones, you're only giving

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Speaker 3: it to on the idea that he pushed the fight forward.

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Speaker 3: But it's the same thing as giving it to somebody

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Speaker 3: who gets takedowns but does nothing with it. I think

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Speaker 3: we're advanced past that point where you're not just scoring

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Speaker 3: activity anymore or intention. You've got to score damage and

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Speaker 3: things that actually happened. So I think this was scored

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Speaker 3: under the wrong precepts. I think it was scored under

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Speaker 3: you know, old boxing judge transferring over to MMA, which

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Speaker 3: is sort of the long held thing that people criticize

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Speaker 3: whenever there is a bad decision. I know, we can't

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Speaker 3: have UFC controlled judges. There's an impropriety factor there. It's illegal,

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Speaker 3: you get it. But we need something different than the

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Speaker 3: boxing state commission of each state pretending, even twenty five

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Speaker 3: years into the sport, that they really know what they're

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Speaker 3: doing with MMA. Yeah, MMA is still jungled under the

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Speaker 3: they have a separate MMA team, right, it's just sort

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Speaker 3: changing the scoring system, that'd be fine. But even under

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Speaker 3: this scoring system, can we just get MMA experienced people?

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Speaker 3: Can we get ex fighters? Can we get So that's

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Speaker 3: why even though when you say I would rather have

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Speaker 3: UFC oversee this, you can't because they're the promoter and

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Speaker 3: you don't want any sort of fear that they're paying

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Speaker 3: or manipulating it whatever. But I would rather have an

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Speaker 3: that are actually doing their job based on performance, right

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Speaker 3: because fight to fight, I mean, it happens on the

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Speaker 3: undercards all the time, and UFC we don't make a

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Speaker 3: big deal of it. But we are just seeing scorecards

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Speaker 3: like four to one for John Jones that make zero sense.

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Speaker 2: This is a complicated one, and I know folks think

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Speaker 2: it's not and folks are like, oh, what's the point

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Speaker 2: in bitching about it?

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Speaker 1: Nothing will change. I never understand that attitude.

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Speaker 2: It's like, are you the kind of person that when

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Speaker 2: the waiter gets your food totally wrong you just end up.

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Speaker 2: It's like you ordered steak and they bring gell o.

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Speaker 2: You're like, hey, I'll eat the gel o. That's that's fine.

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Speaker 2: Who are you who are these people? Yes, you should

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Speaker 2: say something if something is wrong. I don't understand our

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Speaker 2: attitude at all. Now how did I score it? I

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Speaker 2: got rounds one, two and three for rayis four and

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Speaker 2: five for John. Like you, I can squint and sort

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Speaker 2: of see how somebody could come up with a third

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Speaker 1: It a robbery?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: It is not. Do you know who?

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Speaker 2: John Jones is starting to become the boxing equipment or

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Speaker 2: the MM equivalent of and from boxing. He's like MMA's Canelo,

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Speaker 2: where every time it goes to the scorecards, you think, man,

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Speaker 2: I think this challenger finally got them, and it never

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Speaker 3: So they stop. Pause at that point, right, okay, because

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Speaker 3: I want to I want to dig psychologically heaper into this.

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Speaker 3: Is it just that people come in with a preconceived notion. Now,

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Speaker 3: you can't trust anybody on Twitter because they're probably drinking,

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Speaker 3: don't know how to score a fight, have money on

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Speaker 3: a certain person. So whenever they're giving you a hate

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Speaker 3: But just for people that actually do know what they're doing,

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Speaker 3: Or is it just by default that when John closes

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Speaker 3: He started off back, but look at this comeback. I

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Speaker 3: just there's no sort of well.

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Speaker 1: Hold, let me ask you this.

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Speaker 2: Canelo has a reputation in boxing for being the guy

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Speaker 2: where for example, this has happened many times. But let's

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Speaker 2: use the first Triple G fight as an example. You

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Speaker 2: went into the scorecards. You think, dude, that that guy

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Speaker 2: a big deal, and then it just sort of doesn't

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Speaker 2: work out that way. Why do you think in boxing

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Speaker 2: Canelo just seems again Mayweather fighting not with any but.

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Speaker 3: Even in the mawet justifyed boxing's got his? Why did

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Speaker 3: Julio says the stra is get a drug against Parnel Whitaker?

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Speaker 3: Right like, there's.

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Speaker 1: Canello has this repeated pattern of.

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Speaker 3: This boxing has much has has one of its feet

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Speaker 3: much more dipped into the pool of corruption. It's obvious

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Speaker 3: right that the the house fighter in so many cases

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Speaker 3: ends up getting the benefit of the doubt all the time.

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Speaker 1: So it's not just the why why can't John Jones

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing. We'd never have that consistently in MMA.

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Speaker 3: Why did the titles change hands so so briskly, so quickly,

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Speaker 3: because it's largely a fairly contested contest the way things

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Speaker 2: this is the key to understanding all of that. Brian,

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Speaker 1: The modern rules.

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Speaker 2: The key insight is, let's develop a system so that you,

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Speaker 2: will accommodate it if it's effective with damage and grappling

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Speaker 2: It forces fighters to change the way they fight. You

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not going to disagree with that at all,

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you. Let me ask you.

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Speaker 3: Forward and two and visibly hurt John twice. I visibly

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Speaker 2: I didn't know what to say. The judge, Judge Sales,

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Speaker 2: Because but what is that it's a volunteer army. How

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Speaker 2: So I keep seeing people like proffer these challenges to it,

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Speaker 1: They're just we are this was.

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Speaker 2: not very easily. The problem is they gave a brand

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Speaker 3: Money seems to fix any problem, even in fight sports.

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Speaker 3: Do we raise the salary for judges so we get

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Speaker 3: some point, the UFC doesn't want this. UFC does not

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Speaker 2: The CSP took way more damage in that fight. I mean,

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Speaker 3: hold on like three two rais. The fact that it

436
00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,760
Speaker 3: wasn't is where you get the extra level layers of outcry,

437
00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,360
Speaker 3: because then you can go see he never had a chance. See.

438
00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:13,680
Speaker 3: And I just want to say one other thing for

439
00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,720
Speaker 3: people that still don't understand the idea of round by

440
00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,880
Speaker 3: round scoring in either boxing or MMA, because I see

441
00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,720
Speaker 3: a lot of this online. Well, he didn't actually beat

442
00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,520
Speaker 3: the champ, right, he didn't actually go out there and

443
00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,120
Speaker 3: whatever mixed with well, how do you win a fight?

444
00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,119
Speaker 3: How do you win a championship when you're running out

445
00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:31,080
Speaker 3: of guest? Last two rounds? Please? People wake up again, Please,

446
00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,600
Speaker 3: it's round by round. It's five individual fights within one fight.

447
00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,600
Speaker 3: Can we get that? Nobody waits till the end and

448
00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,840
Speaker 3: goes Oh, John had a better gas tank in the end,

449
00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,120
Speaker 3: he was coming on late. It doesn't matter.

450
00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,439
Speaker 1: And also people don't understand this.

451
00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,360
Speaker 2: When the round is over, so round one ends, they

452
00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,040
Speaker 2: have to turn in their scorecard and that's it.

453
00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,399
Speaker 1: They don't get to go back and change it.

454
00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:48,520
Speaker 3: I can't deal with any more.

455
00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,359
Speaker 2: Here's the other part with this system crashing early on,

456
00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,560
Speaker 2: Remember that we have to add all this up. And

457
00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,920
Speaker 2: then if you saw the scorecards for the main event,

458
00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,639
Speaker 2: the first two rounds were all written by hand and

459
00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,080
Speaker 2: then the other three were written or printed out in

460
00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,719
Speaker 2: the computer essentially, And it's like, dude, I don't mean

461
00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:05,960
Speaker 2: to get into this because I don't want.

462
00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,240
Speaker 3: To make a political two thousand elections.

463
00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,760
Speaker 2: It feels like Gore versus Florida, or Bush me Gore

464
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,320
Speaker 2: whatever it was all over again, or the Iowa Democrats

465
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,600
Speaker 2: are hoaring Bernie Sanders. It's just like, oh my god,

466
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,199
Speaker 2: can't you cannot go to a commission that does not

467
00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,240
Speaker 2: have it shit together, and Texas does not in any circumstance.

468
00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,000
Speaker 3: And I know we can't hold the what fighters say afterwards,

469
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,080
Speaker 3: but John saying, look, you know, I think I won

470
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,399
Speaker 3: that fight. Look what I did in the wrestling at

471
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,399
Speaker 3: the end. Well, John, you did the wrestling in the

472
00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,359
Speaker 3: two rounds in which everyone knows you already won and

473
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 3: no one's disputing, and you took him down four total times,

474
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,280
Speaker 3: and he got right back up all four times. There's

475
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,399
Speaker 3: not much you can get. There's not a lot of

476
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,399
Speaker 3: there's not a lot of hefty factor in that in

477
00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,359
Speaker 3: terms of the score in rounds. He already won, by

478
00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:42,600
Speaker 3: the way.

479
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,400
Speaker 2: So so now the question becomes what should be next.

480
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,520
Speaker 2: We'll talk about whether or not the champion fights are

481
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 2: in play in just a moment, but a fight that

482
00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,680
Speaker 2: is gaining a little bit of momentum is what about

483
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 2: a rematch? Fact, what about an immediate rematch for Dominic Reyesk.

484
00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,119
Speaker 1: I wonder what you feel about this.

485
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,639
Speaker 2: There have been two two rematches in John Jones's career, obviously,

486
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 2: the gust Ofson rematch and the Cormier rematch. In the

487
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,719
Speaker 2: first gust of Sin and Cormier fights, they both go

488
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 2: the full five minutes. In the second gust of Sin

489
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,439
Speaker 2: and Cormier fights, he stops both of them inside of three. Now,

490
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 2: Cormier looked pretty good before he got stopped. Look, he

491
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 2: had made some adaptations to gust Ofson. I don't think

492
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 2: ever really got going. But the common denominator, right, I mean,

493
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of stuff happening, but the common denominator

494
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 2: is it does not go well for folks that passed

495
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 2: his prologue in terms of that. However, the difference between

496
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 2: those two Brian and this situation is that there was

497
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 2: a lot of time in between the first and second

498
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 2: Cormier fight, and especially the first and second gust Ofson fight.

499
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 2: John has never had an immediate rematch that'll be have

500
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 2: very much a first for him. So while he simply

501
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 2: does better in rematches that he has had, what do

502
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,360
Speaker 2: you make of the idea of a they're being a rematch,

503
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 2: and two, if that's the case, knowing what we know

504
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 2: about John, do you like Dominick's chances?

505
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 3: I felt that weird that this was not really a

506
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 3: topic of conversation after the fight, whether it be in

507
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 3: the cage or in postfight press conference afterwards. And it's

508
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 3: not that I'm gonna sit here and damn dom Reis

509
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 3: for being humble and being like, well, it is what

510
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 3: it is. But if I'm Don reys in that spot,

511
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 3: I'm maybe talking up a little bit more about how

512
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 3: the judges got it wrong. Can't you see what I

513
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 3: did out there? With that said, though certainly dom deserves it,

514
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 3: I almost want to press pause and time out. And

515
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 3: you know, no dong jokes, no over the top, prove

516
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 3: how smart and angry we are. Can we just celebrate

517
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 3: what happened on Saturday night? And that's this rare, pure

518
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 3: moment in sports where somebody makes the leap right in

519
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 3: front of you and goes to a level that you

520
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 3: didn't think possible.

521
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 2: No, no, we said on this show last week we knew

522
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 2: he was capable of something.

523
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 3: There's a difference between saying Don Reyes is a live

524
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 3: dog and when I say live dog, I think it's

525
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 3: possible he could hurt John. It's possible he could have

526
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,360
Speaker 3: moments in there. Luke, there's a difference in my mind

527
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 3: from doing that and saying he can win three rounds,

528
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 3: he can make the great John Jones back up, he

529
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 3: can cover up get hurt. I didn't think that was possible.

530
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 3: I didn't think his takedown defense after watching the Volcanos

531
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 3: Demir fight was possible on that level. Five round cardios,

532
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,040
Speaker 3: So I just want to celebrate for a moment, But

533
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 3: it was the.

534
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 1: Five round cardio was the part that got him in

535
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 1: trouble a little bit.

536
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 3: All right, But you're Rays's family is watching this, They're like,

537
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 3: can we celebrate the guy? I mean, to see somebody

538
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 3: become something I didn't think they could was fantastic. And

539
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 3: that fuels this next argument where I think UFC and

540
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 3: John Jones have to get into a room and they

541
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 3: have to go what are we doing with this heavyweight move?

542
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 3: Because Luke, John Jones is thirty two now, he's not

543
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 3: the same guy. I'm not gonna submit subscribe to you

544
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 3: any idea that he's washed or anything like that, but

545
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 3: he's certainly not the same mid twenties attacking youthful guy.

546
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 3: He's smarter and more efficient, and the younger athletes today

547
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 3: are catching up with him to a degree. Dom Rays

548
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 3: has a legitimate star championship potential right now. I believe

549
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 3: from this performance like it was an eye opener, it

550
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 3: was a wake up call. I think UFC has to

551
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 3: figure out do we want to take the chance of

552
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 3: wasting that by giving him an immediate rematch. Knowing that

553
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 3: John's future is more likely at a heavyweight than not,

554
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 3: and with John being thirty two when DC moved up

555
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 3: to heavyweight, moved back up to heavyweight, I was just

556
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 3: sort of like, damn even pushing forty the speed advantage

557
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 3: that he has against those guys is mind is mind altering.

558
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 3: I've wanted John to go to heavyweight for so long,

559
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 3: to really start the second chapter of his LEGSCY put

560
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 3: the idea of being to go way out where it

561
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 3: can't be touched. He would age so gracefully, in my opinion,

562
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 3: with that gap in speed from light heavyweight to heavyweight

563
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 3: and just be able to flourish and shine. If you're UFC,

564
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,239
Speaker 3: do you want to basically say, hey, John, we'll think

565
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 3: about the Atisagnja thing. That'd be a nice time waster, right,

566
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 3: But if not, you're going north because we got to

567
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 3: find out right now how great Don Reis is. Let's

568
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 3: go Don Reis against Maheta for the interim title, right like,

569
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 3: let's let's let's roll the dice in that direction. I

570
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,959
Speaker 3: don't think you gain much unless John's future is at

571
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 3: two o five and he wants to stay there, and

572
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 3: he wants to be essentially this Bernard Hopkins start to

573
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 3: the end of the career in in one division.

574
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: You know. So here's the way I look at this.

575
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: Here's what I don't want to see.

576
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Speaker 2: I have no interest in John Jones versus the winner

577
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,719
Speaker 2: of Cordy Anderson and Yamblhovich. Now maybe the winner of

578
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,239
Speaker 2: Anthony Smith Glover to Schera if it's Anthony, But if

579
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: it's Glover, Glover's past forty I just don't like his chances.

580
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 2: I will say this, though, if John stays at two

581
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: oh five while the immediate fights other than a Dominic

582
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 2: Reyes rematch don't interest me. To me, it was clear

583
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 2: on Saturday, You're right, he's not the same guy. What's

584
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 2: keeping him like really competitive in these fights is he

585
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 2: has unbelievably good defense. And chin, and his chin is amazing,

586
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: but he doesn't get hit that much. You'll go through

587
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 2: it undissected, or just look at the tape yourself in

588
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: slow motion.

589
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: He is so good.

590
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 2: A lot of shots you think land, they kind of graze.

591
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: He's so good at rolling and covering. He's just got

592
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: unbelievably great defense. And that is so valuable for him

593
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: because that's going to keep him fresh over the long run.

594
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: Except to the body into the legs. The key for

595
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 2: me is that his offense has deteriorated. Now, understand what

596
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I am not saying it's falling off a cliff.

597
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: That's not the way when you use the word deterioration.

598
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 2: I'm not here to challenge you.

599
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

600
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 3: I want you to explain it more. Is it more

601
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 3: that the speed and explosiveness has slown down, or is

602
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 3: it mixed with the mentality of not wanting to people

603
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 3: down and take chances.

604
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: All of the above. I think it's partly.

605
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: I don't think he has the same wrestling ability that

606
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 2: he once did, and or the game is just caught

607
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: up right because he used to Like when John used

608
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: to want to take someone down, they went flat to

609
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: their back. That's just not the case anymore. Partly that

610
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 2: could be because he's smarter about reserving his energy and

611
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 2: going the distance. Part of it could be the people

612
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 2: are just better at stopping the takedowns. But here's the fact,

613
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 2: it's just not as effective. The only fight that the

614
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 2: wrestling was worse for John, I want to say, was

615
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 2: the first Gust of Sin fight where he went one

616
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Speaker 2: four eleven.

617
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: This was two for nine.

618
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Speaker 2: So this is like historically one of his worst performances

619
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 2: in terms of wrestling and in terms of the striking.

620
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 2: He's a bit of a rhythm guy. He has to

621
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: kind of get going a little bit. These guys like

622
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 2: Dom who can stick and move, they're terrible matchups for

623
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: him in that particular regard if they can stay within

624
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 2: their stamina. Here's my point. Dom wasn't the guy to

625
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: do it on Saturday, whatever one's opinion. The Barbarians at

626
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: two h five are at the gate. Brian Campbell. They

627
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: are at the gate and they are knocking. And I

628
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 2: don't know if it's Corey Anderson. I don't know if

629
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 2: it's Yom Bohovich. In fact, I don't think that it is.

630
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: But sooner or later. If he sticks around there, they're

631
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: gonna have his number because the truth is as good

632
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: as he has been, maybe the very best we've ever seen.

633
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: If you fight tough guys long enough, eventually tough guys win.

634
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 2: That is the thing you just cannot beat, especially as

635
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: you age and especially as the game There is bake

636
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: Bond from ma Junkie told me, there's five hours and

637
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: forty minutes of footage on this guy. You can watch

638
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: all of his development. Shogun may have lost, Rashad may

639
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: have lost, Liota may have lost, Dominic Rayes may have lost,

640
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 2: but each of them helped fill out the blueprint to

641
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 2: see where this guy is at. Someone's gonna put that

642
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: all together. Maybe it's Dominic ray is in the next fight.

643
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind seeing it, but it's gonna happen now.

644
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 2: We got to move along. So let's talk about this.

645
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: If it's not Dominic Rays Brian Campbell, let's make a

646
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 2: choice here. We talked about it last week. Is it

647
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 2: Israel Atasanya? Is it Steve A.

648
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: Meochic?

649
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: The question for you is, given how John performed, and

650
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: again you can make a very clear case that he

651
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: won given how he performed, which one makes more sense

652
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 2: for the UFC.

653
00:26:55,359 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 3: Right now, here's what's there's a wildcard actor and me

654
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 3: answer this question. There's not though, because John, if you

655
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 3: hear him talk over the last year after this comeback

656
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 3: from the most recent USADA failure, is about history and

657
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: the one record he doesn't now. He's he's closing it.

658
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 3: He's three wins away from Seroni's most wins. He just

659
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 3: became the winningest fighter in title fights. He doesn't have

660
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: the title defense record though, because of the breakups in

661
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: his title reign due to the due to his things

662
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: outside the cage. So I almost feel like he would

663
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 3: want to linger at two a five and say himself, well,

664
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: I could beat Reys and or rematch, I could beat

665
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 3: Corey Anderson, I could beat whatever. I don't want him

666
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 3: to linger. I don't think the UFC would want him

667
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: to linger. That's why I think sitting down is a

668
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 3: big part, because I think the path for Jones is

669
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: to explore the idea of an out of Soignia fight,

670
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 3: which would mean aut of Soignia beating Romero coming up

671
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 3: and would mean they both want it. We want to

672
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 3: go down this road. We can make it big, we

673
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 3: can make it fun. If not, though, I think the

674
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: move is to heavyweight, and I think the move is

675
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 3: a non title heavyweight, a bout that main events of

676
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 3: pay per view that does big business because of the

677
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: intrigue against a former champion with the name, and then

678
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 3: you wait out the winner of d step A three.

679
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 3: I think part of John going public to Ariel in

680
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 3: the interview and talking so matter of fact about I

681
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: can beat step A tomorrow and I want to. I

682
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 3: think it's still a little bit more of this DC

683
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 3: thing will never end. You know what, if I can

684
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 3: win DC's title and hold it up in front of

685
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 3: him type of deal, I think that's not as realistic

686
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 3: now that John kind of struggled to come away with

687
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 3: a decision here. I think that it would be fun

688
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 3: to throw them in that pool. It would do so

689
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: much for the heavyweight division and just rise up the

690
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: value and create fun matchups. So I think the answer

691
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 3: to your question is both. But you go you go

692
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 3: through the idea of the out of Sannya fight first, because,

693
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: as we said last week, when John moves up, that

694
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 3: window closes unless Israel can prove he can keep rising

695
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: and wait and you know, be the same guy in

696
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: each way.

697
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: So here's what I would say.

698
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: There is one more piece of the puzzle we have

699
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: to figure out here, which is Romero versus Auta Sonia.

700
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: And that presser on Friday was unbelievable. The promo that

701
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: they played on Saturday gave me the chills. I don't know,

702
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: I am insanely excited about this. I don't I'm more

703
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: excited for this fight right now. This should watch lightning

704
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: strike me down right now.

705
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: I am more excited about Sanya Romero than even Habib Tony.

706
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: And it doesn't even make sense to say that, But

707
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: as I'm sitting there watching for me, As I'm sitting

708
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 3: there watching them at the press conference on Friday, I'm

709
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 3: going it's the perfect fight. Violence in this fight and

710
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: the skill level and the fact that both are going

711
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 3: to come forward at fricking will to prove something right.

712
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 3: Romero finally cashing in and saying I'm not that lovable

713
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: bride's made loser, weight cutter. You know you saw a guy.

714
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: I no, I'm the freak of nature that is going

715
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 3: to win a title in my early forties, and at

716
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: A Sonya saying I gotta be at the toughest guy

717
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 3: in this jail boy.

718
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Auto Sonya.

719
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: In terms of the challenge he faces in Romero, it's

720
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: a big physical challenge, big power, puncher, athletic, explosive, all

721
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff we all know about Romero. But

722
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: the thing is his His control once he gets the

723
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: takedown has never been good. It's why Robert Witker was

724
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: able to get up. He's not He's not a folk

725
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: style kabi risk ride guy, but in terms of getting

726
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: a whole of you and putting you down, he can

727
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: do it very easily. To me, I want to see

728
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: how Attasianya answers the physical challenge both in the striking

729
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: and the wrestling department. There, if he handles it ably,

730
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: and the fact that he is taking it on when

731
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: he doesn't have to is just champagne. This could be,

732
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: by the way, yes or no, because I want to

733
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: finish my point champions seeking out fighters that are boogeymen

734
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: of the divisions when they don't have to.

735
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: It does not happen in combat sports.

736
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 3: And when it does, and sir, come on, give me,

737
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 3: give me what I need right now, here's.

738
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: What I will say.

739
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: Maybe you give Ray as the immediate rematch, but what

740
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: one way or the other. If Atasanya beats Romero and

741
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: looks like he is capable of answering some of the

742
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: physical challenges they're in, that's the guy to beat John Jones,

743
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: because on the feat at a Signya is going to

744
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: style on basically anybody in the UFC. Obviously, as we know,

745
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: John has such a reach, he's got a clever He's

746
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: ad an amazing fight at que and while his wrestling

747
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: has deteriorated, that's been something of a lagging part in

748
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: At a Signya's game. But if he can shore that up,

749
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.

750
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: Why, that's the way Sonya at the press conference when

751
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: asked about it, saying summer of twenty twenty one Raiders Stadium,

752
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 3: Las Vegas will do it. Then why do you think

753
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: he's pushing that off when again, the idea would be

754
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 3: that I know John's John would be a year older,

755
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 3: but he'd also be going going higher up to heavyweight.

756
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 3: By that.

757
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he needs the I think he knows he

758
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: needs the time to work on that. But one thing

759
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: that's been very clear about a sign you he just

760
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: gets good so fast.

761
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: So for him to say during the press conference, which

762
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 3: is true, like I've done all this in less than

763
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: two years in the UF.

764
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: It's insane crazy.

765
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 3: I was in the room when you filmed Dissected. It's

766
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: a decent show. I'm sure you know you.

767
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: Can say nice things about it. I won't kill you.

768
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 3: Uh, but you you were using language on that show.

769
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: Spoiler alert that led me to believe that John's performance

770
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 3: against Reyes makes you believe in your heart, Luke, that

771
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 3: style better has a much better chance than you would

772
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: have said a week ago.

773
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: Yes, the only thing that's different is when you look

774
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: at the way in which Reyes stuffed some of the takedowns.

775
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: Part of it is that reyes Is takedown defense has improved.

776
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: We talked about it last week. Bad first order but

777
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: good second order defense, and that was true when he

778
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: got tired in the fourth and the fifth, But in

779
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: the second and the third, when he was stuffing him,

780
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: his first order looked pretty good there.

781
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: Part of that was he was really technical.

782
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: He got the underhook right when he needed to the

783
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: other part was, dude, Don Reyes is a physical presence.

784
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: I think people fail to appreciate that a little bit.

785
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: He's a strong guy, and there's moments there where you

786
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: can see him and John in kind of these I

787
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: wouldn't call it neutral positions, but the kind of position

788
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: where like, if we're locked in it, the person who's

789
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: stronger and wants it more is gonna win because neither

790
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: has a technical advantage per se uh and and Reyes

791
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: won them early. So to me it was like, wooh,

792
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: that is interesting now did he is that something out

793
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: of Sonya can do? Because I've I had him both

794
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: At my UFC two forty four Series xem pre fight party,

795
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: Don Reyes had twelve ynglings. He's like, I don't get

796
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: yanlings on the West Coast, shouts you shouts to Dom

797
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: Reyes with He's a nice guy to begin with. With

798
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: every beer he becomes like dude, But twelve beers later

799
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: he was like Winnie the Pooh nice he drinking episode.

800
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: Right, he did.

801
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: He was the nicest drunk I'd ever seen. Point being

802
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: is this. I saw him next to each other. They're

803
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: about the same high, but is clearly a lot thicker. Right,

804
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: so there is that X factor there that makes the

805
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: whole thing interesting.

806
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: But on the feet, dude, who's who beats out to

807
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: sign you?

808
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: On the feet, I don't I don't think anybody does

809
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: anybody let me ask.

810
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: You this, Luke, all right, this date twenty twenty one,

811
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: who's your light heavyweight champion of the world.

812
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: Oh that is good? Okay, So February ten, twenty twenty one. Boy,

813
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: that's a good question.

814
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: That is I'm going to say, dom Res, I don't know,

815
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 3: you know exactly how it happens, but I don't want

816
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: to get drunk off one performance. But he just walked

817
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: in there and beat the goat. We saw it with

818
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: our own damn eyes.

819
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: Luke, all right, you know I'll say out to sign you.

820
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: I'll say out to sign you.

821
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: How about the light heavyweight champion in the world? Say, wow, Yeah,

822
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: I'll make that call if that happens. And I'm referencing

823
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 3: a question at that press comforence on Friday, would he

824
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 3: be rivaling Connor and in face of the franchise stardom

825
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 3: for the UFC?

826
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: Wow, the first person. Let's say, here's the thing.

827
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: About beating John. You beat him by decision. It's momentous,

828
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: it's huge. No one has ever done on that. But

829
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: the first person to like stop him unless he's completely

830
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: over the hill. Like let's say it's in relatively recent time,

831
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 2: or you know in another year or two before thirty five.

832
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,959
Speaker 1: That's a big deal. That's a really big I'm just.

833
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 3: So freaking fired up about this calendar year for the UFC,

834
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: what we have coming on. It's not just Romero Asania,

835
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 3: Tony and Habib finally and Ortega rumors with zab like

836
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 3: I mean, there's just there and then you'd begin the

837
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: idea of Connor coming back in the summer, that railer

838
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: stadium in Vegas, just waiting to be inhabited by a monster.

839
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: Shouts too or Tagger to see him on the broadcast.

840
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 2: He had written happy birthday to my sister on his phone,

841
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 2: your sister No no, no, like happy birthday to my sister.

842
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 2: Are there, although you know probably was to my sister

843
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: as well.

844
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 3: No birthday.

845
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, that would have been pretty I thought it

846
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: was a nice little touch. Brian will take it. That's

847
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: a very sensitive young man.

848
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: Okay. Now there was another fight on this card we

849
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: have to talk about, which is the co main event.

850
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: Valentina Chevchenko retains her flyweight time in what can only

851
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: be described as a complete demolition of Caitlyn Chukegian. The question,

852
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: Brian Campbell is what on earth does the UFC do

853
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 2: about her, because here's the good news. The good news

854
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: is she's trilingual. She can speak Russian English. She did

855
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: a whole interview I saw. I went to the UFC's

856
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 2: Espanol YouTube channel. She did a whole backstage interview perfectly

857
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: in Spanish.

858
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: She can dance, she has a gun tattooed on her hip.

859
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: She's a.

860
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: That's what you say. She's a competitive shooter and she

861
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: is at Flywaight. I think we both agree she's untouchable.

862
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 2: There is just no one who can beat her. That

863
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: beating she put like we knew she was gonna win.

864
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 2: But there's a part of me it's like, well, Chuekegan's

865
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: a good mover. Maybe she'll survive or something. But no,

866
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 2: there the traps that that, and people never talk about it.

867
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 2: How about her takedowns. They're physical, she lands immediately past

868
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: the guard and that crucifix.

869
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: Dude.

870
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: It was like I said this on Twitter that night.

871
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: It was like if Matt Hughes in his prime had

872
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: ee kickboxing, Matt Hughes just to like take guys down, Passard,

873
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: gets crucifix and just bang them out, And it was

874
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 2: like this hard to kind of watch scenario. Well, she's

875
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: doing that, except on the feet, she's lying out her

876
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: physical strength.

877
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: Compared to these one twenty five ers, they're not compared

878
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: to Bannam Way is just it's not the same as

879
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 3: great as she is and Luke, she's flawless. She is

880
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 3: almost a perfect fighter in her absolute physical and mental

881
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 3: prime and all that background in Muay Thai and everything

882
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: and coming together. As great as she is, the division

883
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 3: underneath her is equally as bad in the other direction, Okay,

884
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: And I don't want to want to say that they're

885
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 3: bad fighters, but they're a pool of average fighters that

886
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 3: are very reminiscent to when Rondo was beating Alexa Davis,

887
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: Rondo was beating Sarah McMahon, and shout out to all

888
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: of them. They all had, you know, e qualities that

889
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: made them good. But in the end, they're average title contenders.

890
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 3: And that's the only people left at one twenty five.

891
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: Hearing Dana talk after the fight, I don't think he's

892
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: that into Chevchenko Newness three right now or right away

893
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: or anytime soon. And obviously that's v fight, the defining

894
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: fight of her career. I mean, if she if she

895
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 3: beat Nynas and did it somewhat convincingly. You could you

896
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 3: can make go arguments by that point, right, you should

897
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 3: be a two division champion. I mean it'd be insane.

898
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 3: Here's what I think they should do. Okay, almost make

899
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 3: her into a rousey in a way. How do you

900
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 3: do that? Keep her incredibly busy, and then just basically

901
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: have a tall We can't have any more of these

902
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: loose car mooge fights. We can have five round stinkers

903
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 3: go out there and finish these people. If she can

904
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: stay active, be fighting every three months and just go

905
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: down the line, call there would roxy you know, across

906
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 3: the board, whoever's left there, Lauren Murphy. I'm not saying

907
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: these are gonna be fun fights. I'm not saying these

908
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: fights are gonna sell. But if they're meant to showcase

909
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 3: how great Valentina is, and you start to play up

910
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: a narrative that's almost ten in Barrow, Like remember when

911
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 3: Barraw wasn't moving any product and suddenly Dania's like, well,

912
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 3: this guy's the best in the world. Don't you guys

913
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 3: see this? If you get her in that sort of mode,

914
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: it could buy some time. But what we need, Luke,

915
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 3: is a legitimate one hundred and twenty five pound contender.

916
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: We will not have that. I don't believe until Macy

917
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 3: Barber gets more years and fights and figures out. She's

918
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 3: the only one I think with a plus potential right

919
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 3: now of who is in the division. But here's what

920
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: Valentina said after the fight that's so interesting. She talked about, Yeah,

921
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: I'd love to fight man, Da'd do it tomorrow, right,

922
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: I'd move back up to thirty five. But she said

923
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 3: my walking around weight is one thirty five, So she

924
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 3: said cutting to flyweight at one twenty five is not

925
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 3: even a cut. She basically said it was easy. Could

926
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 3: she make strawweight and we just never talked about it

927
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: and she hasn't talked about it, Frank again. Or or

928
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: could she meet a strawweight champion who had became a star?

929
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: Thinking way Leysong here, if Jong destroys Yuana and puts

930
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: a title a couple more title defenses, could they meet

931
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: in the middle at some type of way? Are we

932
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: not seeing the super fight potential of the weight class

933
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 3: coming up? Because, Luke, you know this as a fact,

934
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 3: because right now you can go on UFC dot com

935
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: slash rankings and look up women's featherweight, there is not

936
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: a top ten. There has never been a top ten. UFC,

937
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: the company that started that division in twenty sixteen, still

938
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: has not put up a top ten rink. And it's

939
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 3: not just one forty five where it's empty. One twenty

940
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 3: five is empty, and I got news for you. One

941
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 3: thirty five's empty as well. Let me let me one

942
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 3: fifteen is the only weight class with depths personality, sellable characters.

943
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 3: Maybe Valentina's future is colliding with them in some form.

944
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 3: Not saying it would be easy for her to make one.

945
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: I seen, no, no, I it's a fair point to consider.

946
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 2: I just think we're overthinking in a little bit. Look,

947
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 2: eventually this charm where she's beating up on overmatched people

948
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: is gonna wear thin. But there is a little magic

949
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: to what Scott Coker does, which is he had the

950
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: right idea of very Japanese style of matchmaking people like

951
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: oh it or had a bunch of cans in between

952
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: tough fights. Yeah, why do you think he has such

953
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: a long career as a consequence, Because he had a

954
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: bunch of cans in between actual tough fights. So eventually,

955
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: three four fights down the line, people are going to like, Okay,

956
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 2: we've seen the lion eat the deer enough at this point. However,

957
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: right now, look at who she has to go up against.

958
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: There's just Skoy Kitlcherkeg, and she already beat him. Joined Calderwood,

959
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 2: Jennifer Mayah, Roxemmota Ferry, Vivian A Roujao. She annihilates these people,

960
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: and I don't think it's particularly close. So let it happen,

961
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: Let the inevitable beating take place, and then let's reassess

962
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: maybe a one to fifteen drop. Is there maybe a

963
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: one thirty five fight or rematch against or I should

964
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: say a trilogy fight against Nonez.

965
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: Maybe then it.

966
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 2: Makes a little bit more sense, because right now, if

967
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: she goes out there and keeps turning in performances like

968
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: she did on Saturday, you can't do it forever Before

969
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 2: a few more times, it's gonna build you.

970
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 3: What you're saying is, don't panic, don't panic, don't don't

971
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 3: serve up to Amanda yet, Let's let.

972
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 2: You don't have to let it play out, because dude,

973
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: it's gonna make her look very very good.

974
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: The UFC could use another star a.

975
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: Tough question time, who has improved more since the second

976
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 3: time they fought Valentine or Amanda or is it or

977
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 3: is that? Or could you not answer that question because

978
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: Valentine moving to twenty five has changed out.

979
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: And also Amanda got a lot better too. You know,

980
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: it's hard to answer. All right, Before we get out

981
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: of here, there was a fight on Showtime over the weekend.

982
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 2: Gary Russell retained his featherweight strap at one hundred and

983
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: twenty six pounds by defeating the fighter with the best

984
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: nickname in all of combat sports, King Tug.

985
00:40:59,560 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: He had.

986
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: Interestingly, the scores were wider than I had it. I

987
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: had a one fifteen, one thirteen. I think King Tug

988
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: closed the gap in those Championship A rounds. But like

989
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 2: early on, here's how it looked to me, Brian, he

990
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 2: was too quick. His feet were too fast, his hands

991
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 2: were too fast, his ring iq was too good. King

992
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: Tug kind of made it interesting, as you mentioned later

993
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 2: by when when when Russell visibly slowed, then the fight

994
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 2: got a little bit more interesting. But the early lead

995
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: was too much. Now here's what he's calling for. I

996
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: want to fight against Leo Santa Cruz at one thirty.

997
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: That'd be up a weight class or even I want

998
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: Dravonte Davis, who's got his own issues right now, We'll

999
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 2: see how that happens. I'd even go two weight classes

1000
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: up at one thirty five. Here's my question to you, Brian.

1001
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: I'm happy to see him look good against a very

1002
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: tough challenger. I'm happy to see him call somebody out.

1003
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 1: Do you buy that they're gonna make any of these fights?

1004
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: I just it seems to me like it fell on

1005
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: deaf ears a little bit.

1006
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 3: So I'll listen to all the interviews that Gary gave

1007
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 3: after the fight, right before the press conference, with all

1008
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 3: the reporters backstage, and I mean, remember that in that

1009
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: scene of Major League two when the Asian outfielders doing

1010
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: the uh no marbles. This guy's all marbles all the time.

1011
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: And to hear him say, look, I've only been fighting

1012
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 3: once a year because no one's wanted to fight me.

1013
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if I fully believe that. But at

1014
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: the same time, Luke, I am so happy that he

1015
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: wants to be there to be great now. He's right

1016
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 3: at the mountaintop of his physical and mental prime and

1017
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 3: he wants to fight multiple times per year and call

1018
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: people out. There's a good and bad in that. The

1019
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: great is we want to see him there to be

1020
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: great because he's so insanely skilled. He has pound for

1021
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: pound top ten potential. You saw what he did with

1022
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 3: his handspeed. He likes to get in there and fight.

1023
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: I wonder though, if that's going to be a problem

1024
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 3: with him, Luke. Can you imagine him getting a lightweight

1025
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 3: title bout against Jervonte? And by the way, he called

1026
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: heavy and he called Jervonte everything from a you know,

1027
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 3: basically a pussy to say and like get some get

1028
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 3: some balls and get your team together. You're saying, I

1029
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 3: can't sell. Why don't we find out? Why don't we

1030
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 3: do this fight in DC and find out is his

1031
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 3: is Gary Russell's pensiont for mixing it up, Luke. And

1032
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 3: we saw this again in the Jojo Diaz fight that

1033
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 3: he was well ahead on. He almost let Diaz back

1034
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 3: in did it against King Tugus, Maybe due to fatigue,

1035
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 3: but he is so damn confident in himself that I

1036
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: fear at one thirty five that could become a problem.

1037
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: Not At the same time, look, remember Shane Moseley was

1038
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 3: arguably the greatest lightweight we've ever seen, moves up to two

1039
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 3: weight classes to welterweight beats Oscar de la Hoya. It

1040
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 3: was just in him. It's greatness. Maybe the size difference

1041
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: in the chin and all that is not gonna matter

1042
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 3: because Gary Russell is that mentally tough. But could you

1043
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: imagine his speed that lightweight, He is going to dance

1044
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: around some of these guys.

1045
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he can't put some of these guys away.

1046
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: At one twenty six, you think he's gonna start mopping

1047
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 2: the floor.

1048
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: He's not gonna be a knockout puncher. He's gonna be

1049
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 3: a slick boxer.

1050
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: Okay, But if he's getting tired at one twenty six

1051
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: and these other guys making it close and leaning on him,

1052
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: for example, I think he's gonna be really difficult. Well,

1053
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: one I'll buy as a reasonable jump, especially against Leo

1054
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: Santa Cruz, who I think could be a little bit

1055
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: one note with his movement. But against Gravante it's like,

1056
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't like that fight at all.

1057
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: But here's the deal. I think he was trying to

1058
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 3: be a little showcase here against King Tuck. I think

1059
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 3: he was thinking, man in the late rounds, I'm tiring

1060
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 3: a little bit. I'm just gonna dig in there. I'm

1061
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 3: gonna stop him. Well, didn't happen because Neanmbion was a

1062
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 3: tough bastard from Mongoli and he came after him. But

1063
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's gonna work. It's gonna be

1064
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: one of those things where the experiment we have to

1065
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: see what happens him against a very elite lightweight. But

1066
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: you gotta love after all these years of teasing us,

1067
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 3: Luke with the ability and the talent, putting his balls

1068
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: on the line now and saying, let's find out how

1069
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: great I can be. I hope he's picking up the

1070
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: phone to Uncle Al. I hope Uncle All's like, hold on,

1071
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: let me hit the button on total phone. I got

1072
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: Dravonte online too, Let's make this fight happen. Do I

1073
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 3: want to see Dravonte against Leo? Yes, for a lot

1074
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 3: of different reasons. I want to see Gary Russell against

1075
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: Damonte Moore. By the way, do I want to see

1076
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 3: Leo against Dravante? Yeah? Sure, great fight. We's stood up

1077
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 3: pay per view. I want to see Gary Russell against

1078
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: Leo a lot more than that. Gary Russell's been this

1079
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: intriguing sort of facade in the desert, and now he

1080
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: wants to be real. Let's let's find out.

1081
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean in the desert, miraj facade y, who's putting

1082
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: facades up in that?

1083
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 3: I mean, look my my factory. I mean I've never

1084
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 3: made it as a wise man, right, it really couldn't

1085
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 3: cut it as a poor man steal anyway.

1086
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: All right, nicol Nickel fail over here with like Nickel whack.

1087
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 2: All right, Nickel whack.

1088
00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: Yes.

1089
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: With that in mind, those are our top five points.

1090
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: Let's get to where you get to ask us questions.

1091
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: This is DMS from Donks. There's the imagery there, we

1092
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: have it. I don't have four k DMS. I can

1093
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 2: tell you that.

1094
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: By the way.

1095
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: People were asking me does it go down to your DMS?

1096
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: And I was like, let me explain some to you.

1097
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: I look, because I have metrics on my YouTube audience.

1098
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: My YouTube audience is ninety six point one male, ninety

1099
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: six point one. It does not go down in my DMS.

1100
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: Let me just make that perfectly clear.

1101
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 3: What are the other four percent Columbian women?

1102
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: No, you know, just sundry other genders floating around. Okay,

1103
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: let's go to the first. So I'm not sure which

1104
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 2: one's first on my list. I need to see it

1105
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: there we go from suspect monkey. It's all about the

1106
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 2: champ champs these days. But which two neighboring weight classes,

1107
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: Brian Campbell, do you think would be the hardest to

1108
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: earn and hold titles in simultaneously.

1109
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 3: That's a great question. It really comes down to any

1110
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 3: in MMA. We're talking, right, that's what we're saying talking here.

1111
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: What two weight classes are the biggest gap? I think

1112
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 3: you could almost argue, although Ryan Bader is doing it

1113
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 3: on a smaller level in belt or that light heavyweight

1114
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 3: and heavyweight in some cases is a.

1115
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 1: Monstrous Brian Campbell is no better than that in.

1116
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 3: Some cases is a monstrous gap because there are so

1117
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 3: many light heavyweight to.

1118
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: The answer is lightweight and welterweight. That is by far

1119
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 2: the hardest. By far, you have a fifteen pound jump,

1120
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 2: and you have the two bantam weight is up there,

1121
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: but bantam weight and featherweight are only ten pounds apart.

1122
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: And then again featherweight and lightweight. A lightweight to welterweight,

1123
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: you have a big jump in physicality. It's only one

1124
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: weight class up and those are the two most historically

1125
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: and even presently, I would argue talent rich divisions in

1126
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: the sport is it is lightweight and it is welterweight.

1127
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: For sure.

1128
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 3: Not every lightweight and light heavyweight is cut out to

1129
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 3: go up there against the big.

1130
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: Boys, that's true.

1131
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 3: But if you don't have a speed advantage, you're going

1132
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 3: to have a problem.

1133
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: I'll say this, like, you know, the fact that you've

1134
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 2: seen somebody be Champ Champ at lightweight, light heavyweight, and

1135
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: heavyweight is interesting. You've seen a Champ Champ at feather

1136
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: and light right, you've seen those. We haven't seen a

1137
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 2: Champ champ.

1138
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: Have seen the bjpennhole titles in both.

1139
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: Not the same time, not the same time, not the

1140
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: same time, And it's kind of different to a degree

1141
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: as well, a little bit a little bit. I mean,

1142
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 2: he beat Matthews off a titleshaw he didn't deserve, which

1143
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: was fine, he smoked him, but.

1144
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: It's a little bit different than doing the modern name.

1145
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 3: I also saw him lose that heavyweight in a parking

1146
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 3: lot a couple times on TMZ.

1147
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: The Lava Shack God All right, next one, this is

1148
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 2: from Lurking Fool sixty nine. It's always like Dude's these

1149
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: guys have names like booty Eater Sime. Please, like, do

1150
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: your parents know about your fucking names. Man, someone told

1151
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: me that Israel out of sign, you got that Bart

1152
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: Simpson energy? Somebody stupid? What does that mean? And why

1153
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: is it so funny to me? Am I a low

1154
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 2: level primate. I don't even know what that means. What

1155
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: is that Bart Simpson energy?

1156
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 3: I would guess uh cartoonish in some ways.

1157
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: By the way, if you know anyone who uses these

1158
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: this language convention got that blank blank energy.

1159
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: Unless they're cool, like very verifiably cool.

1160
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: Like you know, out a sign is verifiably cool because

1161
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: he's a champion and he can you know, he can

1162
00:47:59,520 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: dance a launch.

1163
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: It needs a good shape. But if you just look, if.

1164
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: You're like your coworker, like if you work at you know,

1165
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: Turbo tax and the dude in the cubicle next to

1166
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 2: you is like, do that guy got that Bart Simpson

1167
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 2: Energy'd like, get the fuck out, Jeffrey, what are you doing?

1168
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: Who are you?

1169
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 3: All right? I don't know what it means either. I

1170
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 3: don't think that makes me old. I think that just

1171
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 3: makes me a little bit more normal. Look, yeah, I

1172
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 3: would agree that Barty. Any of you zeros, No, you're

1173
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 3: like ten years old?

1174
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: How does that mean?

1175
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 2: It, I guess yeah, that's pretty close, all right. Next

1176
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: one at I think it's broken twenty two? Who are

1177
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: the first twenty one I think it's broken? Do you

1178
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: think Rogan will ever be in the UFC Hall of Fame?

1179
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: That seems like an easy.

1180
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 3: Easy I mean, look the UFS with eleven and seven,

1181
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: Matt Sarah and the UFC Hall of Fame there it

1182
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 3: seems to be very wwe hall of famish, where there's

1183
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 3: real rules, just put in whoever you want put in.

1184
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 3: The Good Company men, they.

1185
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 2: Put Rogan outdates Dana White and the Fertidas. Bruce Buffer

1186
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 2: is gonna find his way in there too.

1187
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 3: Real question seems to be I don't think Rogan had

1188
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 3: a great broadcast on Saturday Night. The real question to

1189
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: me is.

1190
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: Okay, so what was your issue with him?

1191
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,479
Speaker 2: Because I mostly don't listen to the broadcast, uh Dominic Cruz.

1192
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: I listened to early in the night, but then as

1193
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: it goes on, I'm so focused I don't even hear

1194
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: it anymore.

1195
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: So what was the one?

1196
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 3: I think Don was the best in the game, yet

1197
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 3: I thought dom and Joe were overplaying what John was

1198
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: doing before he was actually doing it. Fourth and fifth

1199
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 3: rounds John was doing it second and third, I don't

1200
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 3: think he was necessarily doing They were getting so excited

1201
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 3: that he just sort of woke up out of a

1202
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 3: dream and was trying to be offensive. I think Joe

1203
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 3: just harped a little bit too much on things, whether

1204
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 3: it be that judge who may or may not have

1205
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 3: been looking down at this phone. Then they find out

1206
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: it might not have even have been a judge, it

1207
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 3: may have been a commission.

1208
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 2: But that's tended to be a criticism, right that He'll

1209
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: find one thing and then just like.

1210
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 3: Like a dog in a bone, just kind of say

1211
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 3: they tried to get him off talking about the judging.

1212
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 3: He's like, no, I'm not done talking about that, and

1213
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 3: I mean it's just whatever, whatever it is, what it is.

1214
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 3: But yeah, he's the He's the greatest. He'll be. He's

1215
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 3: the greatest. He's my favorite broadcaster they've ever had.

1216
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 2: He's the most important MMA ambassador, I think, at least

1217
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 2: historically speaking. If not, it's only now that even now

1218
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 2: it's probably true, and uh, you know, his his bonafides

1219
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: as a real fan of MMA, you know, I mean,

1220
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: but when it was called NHB, he was all in, right.

1221
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 3: HB too. Yeah, what do you think is the the

1222
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 3: all star all time three men MMA announced crew. I'm

1223
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 3: gonna give you mine first, Are you ready?

1224
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: Yes?

1225
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: Joe Rogan on color, Randy Couture on fighter analysts, and

1226
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 3: Moral Ronalo running the point And that's not a showtime

1227
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 3: guy saying that, that's a moral guys say so.

1228
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 2: Mara Ronalo is the best combat sports broadcaster ever. Firm

1229
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 2: well of our generation because you know, you got the

1230
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: Howard Cassell who did boxing and stuff like that, but

1231
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: certainly of our generation.

1232
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: No one has.

1233
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,959
Speaker 2: He's done pro wrestling, which is not a combat spart

1234
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 2: but certainly part of the family. I acknowledge he did

1235
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: high level kickboxing with Glory, he did Pride, he did

1236
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: Strike Force, and he's done boxing as well. There is

1237
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: no commentator that even comes close to mar Renald in

1238
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: terms of play by play, so he's got to be

1239
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 2: on the call.

1240
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: You could put Joe in there as well.

1241
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 3: But you would switch up the fighter anamals. Who's your

1242
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 3: who do you think in your for your money is

1243
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 3: your favorite fighter analyst?

1244
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: Domina Cruz.

1245
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 3: He's great, he's great.

1246
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: People would say the better one to have for that

1247
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 2: group might be because don versus Dom and Marrow have

1248
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 2: very different energies. Yes, so you might get a DC

1249
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 2: in there.

1250
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 3: Because DC is very good to me, it would be

1251
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: very good.

1252
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 2: Yet, so that somewhere something like that, because you know

1253
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: who's also good. Al Bernstein, our showtime colleague. He and

1254
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: Quadros used to do the remember elitic C would have

1255
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: the their their version of showbox whatever that was.

1256
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 3: Uh, he was good, he was right good. My brother

1257
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 3: and arms John ana a pretty damn good team.

1258
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 2: He's amazing. John's on the way. It's just that Marrow's

1259
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: been around forever and he's done every gig. So I

1260
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: have to say that John's not great, but Marrow is

1261
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 2: your goat. Like for me, he's your goat. Okay from

1262
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: I am task Master? Will we ever get morning combat merch?

1263
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: Y'all must hate money if you don't make us a

1264
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 2: tip to tip shirt.

1265
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 3: I know we got a bunch of andy kings in

1266
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 3: here who are about us, who will do anything for us.

1267
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 3: But what's the first question I say every time.

1268
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: I walk through the door, where's the merch?

1269
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 3: Where's the merch guy? We got a merch guy? What's

1270
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: going on? We got the merch?

1271
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: You know who's got merch. All the smoke, Well they

1272
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: may deserve the merch.

1273
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've also got a million you know, downloads and ship.

1274
00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: But yes, they've got they've got.

1275
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 3: We got a new merch.

1276
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 2: What's going on over she's too busy bumping that new

1277
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: eminem bro. He's rapping about all the cool things like

1278
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: sesame street and ship.

1279
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 3: If we can choose our own merch, I mean we

1280
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 3: we could sell the crap out of these right here.

1281
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 3: I think.

1282
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: Even I'm I'm annoyed by all the tip to tip comments,

1283
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: but even I recognize what a money maker that's gonna be.

1284
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: You get one of those shirts, will you just take

1285
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: the outline of that? Oh my god? Maybe fj oh

1286
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 2: and a fuck Jay. By the way, Jay is so

1287
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 2: desperate to be on camera, it's not every time he

1288
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: comes out he's like, is this the week we get

1289
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: to be on camera? And we're like, no, Jay, we're

1290
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 2: not trying to make our audience queasy. You understand that.

1291
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 2: Get back in the dungeon with Wizard of Oz.

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00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: Jay j fighting fighting in my By.

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00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 2: The way, when you talk in my ear and it's

1294
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: like the buzzing of flies to me, I hope you

1295
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: understand that.

1296
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 3: I could do a hoodie. Can we get a freaking hoodie? Please?

1297
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1298
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: The answer is I don't know. We beg showtime and

1299
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 2: their answers are like, come on, guys.

1300
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 3: We're trying to get us out of the bomb shelter.

1301
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 3: One of these days we'll see what it's like.

1302
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 2: Come on, guys, you want a combat Nobody cares all right,

1303
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: and then lastly it's our underscore, d Underscore. Raoul Parasite

1304
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: won Best Picture and Joaquin won Best Actor, both deserving

1305
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: thoughts on that.

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, I am.

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Speaker 3: Very happy, Luke, that you challenged me to be a

1308
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 3: deeper soul. You and I had some beers in the

1309
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 3: in the hotel bar, and you were just disgusted at

1310
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: what you got was my intelligence level. Now all we

1311
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 3: all know, I come from a factory town. You were

1312
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 3: basically like, your whole life doesn't need to revolve around

1313
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 3: pro wrestling and fights. There, you know, you you were

1314
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 3: trying to get me to name drop books I've recently read.

1315
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 3: You were just basically trying to figure out how big

1316
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 3: of a shit you can take on my educational background

1317
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 3: in there, and I thought you off well, but you

1318
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 3: were like effort go watch Parasite. Told you that's my

1319
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 3: new thing to combat road depression is going to the

1320
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 3: movie theater. Okay, because you know in Vegas there's there's

1321
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 3: just too many sins that can trap me, right, you

1322
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 3: know what I mean? So, so you know I saw

1323
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 3: Uncut Gems in Vegas's I promise.

1324
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 1: You would see that it's on the list.

1325
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's so good. I know it was

1326
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: high as balls, but it was so good. But then

1327
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 3: I saw Parasite in Jersey City, and uh.

1328
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: Do you agree they should have won Best? Yes?

1329
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 3: It was freaking amazing. I mean I was texting you

1330
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 3: right after. It took me a couple of hours to

1331
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 3: sort of really frame the full message they were trying

1332
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 3: to say, that dark turn within that movie was was

1333
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 3: was out of nowhere in frightening.

1334
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: Did you see Joker?

1335
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 3: I did not.

1336
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: You've not seen Joker. I saw Joker.

1337
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 2: I watched it on like I paid for it, like

1338
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: on a fandego now at home, a couple of weekends,

1339
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 2: maybe a month ago or or something like that recently,

1340
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: you know, And I had heard all the controversy and

1341
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, well this is gonna be this

1342
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 2: is gonna be a show. Let's see what happens here.

1343
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: And basically my view was that Waking is amazing and

1344
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 2: the movies mediocre ish but not particularly. I didn't find

1345
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: it disturbing. I I didn't understand what all the hooplah

1346
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: was about.

1347
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 3: Did you think, uh, the Brad Pitt in a Hollywood

1348
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 3: movie with with Leo was as worthy as the nomination

1349
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 3: as the hefty level of nominations. Again, no, I didn't

1350
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 3: as well out on the plane.

1351
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1352
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: My belief is that Once upon a Time in Hollywood

1353
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 2: is one of one of Tarantino's worst movies.

1354
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 3: I mean way.

1355
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: I said that on Twitter and everyone's like, no, there's

1356
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: other ones that are way worse.

1357
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: We have a way of stirring the pot and getting

1358
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 3: people swanted.

1359
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: To kill you.

1360
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 2: I can tweet two plus two is four and I'll

1361
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 2: have I'll get ratio for it. You understand, like, it's

1362
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 2: just the way my life works. But okay, even if

1363
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 2: it's not the worst, it's not one of his better ones.

1364
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 3: For me, I didn't see nineteen seventeen yet I got

1365
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 3: to do that. It's still playing.

1366
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 2: So my best friend who was also served in the military,

1367
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 2: he was in the Army, who we are like in

1368
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 2: the Lockstep on military movies.

1369
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: He walked out of it. He walked out of it.

1370
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: What he said was what he said was it shot

1371
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: really well, like it looks beautiful and as a story

1372
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: it's completely empty.

1373
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: And this is a guy who served two tours in Iraq.

1374
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: You had army ranger.

1375
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 2: He was. He was a tough bastard man that I

1376
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: saw that he versus Ferrari. I'm not a car guy.

1377
00:55:58,760 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm not all these guys are like, Oh, look at

1378
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: engines are loud.

1379
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 3: You were a mathlete in high school. People need to

1380
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 3: remember that.

1381
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a dork. But dude, that movie is great.

1382
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 2: Really, that movie, dude, Matt Damon, is so much better

1383
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: than you think. Christian Bale kills it, and all the

1384
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: little sort of minor actors in it, they do a

1385
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: great job. That is a well shot, well written, well

1386
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 2: executed piece of film.

1387
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 3: I was.

1388
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 2: I was so shocked at how good that was. I've

1389
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: not seen Jojo Rabbit, which apparently was pretty good. I

1390
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 2: came from a divorced home, so I'm not shocking to

1391
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 2: some of you because I'm so normal.

1392
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: So I can't see marriage story. I just can't do it.

1393
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 3: Dude, I'm not going to clown on you for that.

1394
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1395
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 3: For me, Matt Damon is the defining actor of my

1396
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 3: movie watching era, my adult movie watching era.

1397
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go see sometimes you've seen Jason Bourne. Motherfucker.

1398
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 3: I didn't really go down the road with that franchise,

1399
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 3: but every other turn I was, I was there with him.

1400
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 1: All right, Uh what fabulous mister Ripley or whatever.

1401
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 3: The hell is Carolled? All right, that's the end of

1402
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 3: the conversation.

1403
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: I'm just saying one of the movies was he in

1404
00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: that were good? Goodle hunting. Okay, whatever, rounders I do

1405
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 1: like rounders. Okay, pay that man his money.

1406
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, A long chick chick chick Alley gets their blood.

1407
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, I'm with you. That's actually a great movie.

1408
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 2: All Okay, that's it.

1409
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 3: I think may be a little movie called The Departed.

1410
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw it.

1411
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: One of the best parted is hear me hear me out?

1412
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 3: Fantastic?

1413
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: Good?

1414
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 3: Oh here we go. What are you gonna qualify it with?

1415
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 3: What's your quality?

1416
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 2: Nicholson is good, Leonardo DiCaprio was good, They're all great.

1417
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 2: Matt Damon is great. The movie itself is good. I

1418
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 2: wouldn't call the movie itself great. The Jay is saying,

1419
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: that's like that.

1420
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 3: You just named like five of the best actors of

1421
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 3: our lifetime who all put forth it's like.

1422
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: Irish but you're like, you know what it's like the Irishman, dude.

1423
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 2: Robert de Niro was incredible, Joe Peshi was incredible, al

1424
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: Pacina was incredible.

1425
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: The movie was good, but the movie did not individual performance.

1426
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 3: They served on a paper plate. I don't think. I

1427
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 3: don't think work.

1428
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,919
Speaker 2: It's a little strong. Yeah, the movie's great. Okay, it's good.

1429
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: I'm not saying bad things about it. I just don't go,

1430
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm watching The Departed, my.

1431
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 3: Favorite off call all your nerd high school friends, and

1432
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 3: watched The post The Ill Postino and The Pianist and

1433
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 3: all your other weird uh.

1434
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: I don't like those movies.

1435
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: I don't like those movies, all right, but I'm glad

1436
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 2: you got to enjoy Parasite and by the way, show

1437
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: of hands, who's seen Parasite here?

1438
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: Okay? We got some book readers, good, very good.

1439
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to read that funny enough not I

1440
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 3: mean it's it would make sense. I told my dad

1441
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 3: I was talking on the phone. I'm like, Dad, I

1442
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 3: saw this great movie. Parasites got Korean subtitles. He goes

1443
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 3: Korean subtitles. Hell though, And I was like, oh, that

1444
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 3: was my exact reaction to you when you told me

1445
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 3: to watch turning into your dad. Thank you?

1446
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: All right?

1447
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 3: Oh hey, hey, it's time for doll. I mean, it's

1448
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 3: not for slip, the number one segment in all of

1449
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 3: combat sports. We searched the high, low, the good, bad,

1450
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 3: and the ugly. We combed the desert and we have

1451
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 3: found shit. It's time for Have you seen this shit? Luke?

1452
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 3: We will begin at the aforementioned UFC two forty eight

1453
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 3: press conference in Vegas on Friday afternoon. This was the

1454
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 3: viral moment. I know you have seen this shit, Luke.

1455
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 3: I popped out of the building watching this not incredible.

1456
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 3: I mean the face, the expression on Dana White, who

1457
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 3: he wanted to dance, who is becoming You know, he

1458
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 3: talked about in the post press conference he can only

1459
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 3: hear out of one ear and the other ear is bad.

1460
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 3: And I mean I think he looked at his reaction

1461
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 3: herey he thought the whole time they were going to

1462
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 3: fight each other. But uh, this was like the cherry

1463
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 3: on top of my two forty eight fight Boner. What

1464
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 3: did uh Jake Hager say? That's that time he said,

1465
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 3: I got a phoner remember that in Belator. You know

1466
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, You're clarified to me, it means fight boner.

1467
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 3: He's so excited about this fight that he's erect Luke,

1468
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 3: do you understand?

1469
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: Well, first off, it's this weird number one number two.

1470
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 2: You had the jays that, uh youll excuse me that

1471
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: to out a sign you're wearing a slick number one.

1472
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 2: But okay, so he sul said. Then under he did

1473
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: a split in type jeans. You missed the first part,

1474
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 2: Adasignia sal said. Then Romero Crip walked Serena Williams, I

1475
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 2: knew you.

1476
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 3: Were gonna actually break this down there.

1477
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: And then he does the backflip and then he does

1478
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 1: the split. Amazing.

1479
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 3: Do you have any thing bad to say? Look at

1480
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 3: out of Sonia, look like he was about to he

1481
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 3: was about to start digging, and then he was like, wait, wait,

1482
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 3: I can't compete.

1483
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: People keep saying that.

1484
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 2: I don't believe he can't compete at all He can

1485
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: absolutely hold his own.

1486
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: He used to be preferred. He used to be a dancer.

1487
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: Did you ever see him?

1488
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 2: Did you see when he went to Nigeria are vacation

1489
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: he had a dance off in the streets.

1490
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 3: But this made me pop, like, uh, did you answer

1491
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 3: the question? Did you I did not see the dance

1492
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 3: on his instagram.

1493
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: Go watch that and tell me if you can't handle it.

1494
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 3: Felt like break into electric Boogoloo. Great eighties movie. Do

1495
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 3: you ever see that?

1496
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: Please go to the next one.

1497
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, hey, we're gonna move on here. This

1498
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 3: is the user submission. The guy with the blood on

1499
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 3: the back of his neck is John Hazelwood. This is

1500
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 3: Regional MMA, and he's about to send this dude to hell.

1501
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 3: O looke, look at look at where this show has gone.

1502
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 3: We have fighters out there in the Midwest, probably in

1503
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 3: the dark cage. How dark is that cage? By the way,

1504
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 3: do you even see each other? Jesus sending people to

1505
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 3: hell with blood all over their body and sending us

1506
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 3: the footage. I think he's fighting the box wild. Check

1507
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 3: this guy out at Hazelwood Mma on Instagram.

1508
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what we should tell if you're a

1509
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 2: regional level fighter and you get a nice KO or

1510
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 2: you've been KO.

1511
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: Send us the footage.

1512
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 3: They're probably already on the show. They've probably already been

1513
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 3: on there. But shout out to John Hazelwood. We'll support

1514
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 3: his career. Shout moving forward.

1515
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 2: All right, why was he bleeding on the back of

1516
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 2: his n.

1517
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 3: Because anything can happen in regional lu anything. The cage

1518
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 3: could fall apart, like anything could happen. The circus ten

1519
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 3: could blow off during a Kansas tornado.

1520
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: Throwing blood from the audience their.

1521
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 3: Feces or something. All right, hey, let's move on. I

1522
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 3: know you saw this Luke, sixty four year old Super

1523
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 3: Bowl sims on the set of Showtimes Inside the NFL.

1524
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 3: Look at that user who sent it in at the

1525
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 3: Daily two to two three teenage donk in a basement

1526
01:01:55,320 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 3: and nobody Phil Simms crushed twenty pull ups, really okay,

1527
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 3: and it was just awesome to see a man, this

1528
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 3: jack still sixty four, go at it. Because Luke, even

1529
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 3: in my prime, prime Campbell, I'm probably doing three right now,

1530
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 3: maybe one and a half or maybe a half of

1531
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 3: one right now because I'm fat lance Ball, fat guy

1532
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 3: in a little coat right now, you know, what I'm saying.

1533
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: So I got in trouble on Twitter for this one.

1534
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 3: Well, this is what I wanted to transition to. You

1535
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 3: got sent to hell, Luke by everybody because you got

1536
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 3: on there all tough like, well did pretty good, but

1537
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 3: he couldn't crack it in the Marines that much.

1538
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: He's not exactly what was written.

1539
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1540
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: Why is reading comprehension in such short in America?

1541
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 3: I went down your mentions on that thread. Those people

1542
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 3: came out with the pitchforks with the baseball bats, and

1543
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 3: guess what, I think they were right because you took

1544
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe your intentions were different, but you totally came

1545
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 3: out like like no, and it.

1546
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: Wasn't like I'm sorry that it was.

1547
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure my major problem on social media I do

1548
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 2: not have a worthy adversary. These are zeros who don't

1549
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 2: know how to read properly. Here is exactly what I said,

1550
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 2: and this is true, and in fact, if you go

1551
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 2: back and read it, I've not deleted it.

1552
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: I've left it up.

1553
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 2: It is a commentary about the Marine Corps. Here is

1554
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: I said it quite clearly. I even put it in

1555
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 2: all caps that this dude is strong as hell.

1556
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: Dude.

1557
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 2: For sixty four year old man to be doing that

1558
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 2: is crazy. Let me finish. You asked me, I will finish.

1559
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 2: I will finish, good sir. Here's the problem. First of all,

1560
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 2: they're not pull ups their chin ups. The grip changes. Stop, dude,

1561
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 2: Swear to God, do you under any difference between this

1562
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 2: and this? It changes all the muscle groups that work.

1563
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 2: This is a strong ass grip relative to this. So

1564
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: number one, they're not pull up their chim ups. That's

1565
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 2: the first part. Second part is in the Marine Corps.

1566
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 2: You can call it what you want to call it.

1567
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 2: You can get mad about it, but it's a fact,

1568
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 2: and it's damaged my mind. I am, I am crazy.

1569
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 2: I understand, God damn it. What is so hard for

1570
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 2: you to understand? I need to finish them A you're saying,

1571
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, can't hait a curve book? Can I please

1572
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 2: finish the point? Can I please finish the point?

1573
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 3: The credit? It's your show.

1574
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: The point is in the Marine Corps. And this is true.

1575
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 2: Andy, marine watching this will be like you know what,

1576
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 2: He's kind of right. The way it works is you

1577
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 2: have to take your grip and then you have to

1578
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 2: go elbows out and you have to stop all the

1579
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 2: way dead hang. Then you have to come up above

1580
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 2: the bar. If your niece come up, it's a zero.

1581
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 2: If you don't go back to a full dead hang,

1582
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 2: it's a zero. Watch his elbows they stay bent the

1583
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 2: entire time and he kIPS on the way up.

1584
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: You know how I count these pull ups?

1585
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 2: Brian Campbell zero zero zero zero loving it.

1586
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 3: Here's something you can't understand. But I love the viewers

1587
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 3: coming out and just sending you to hell. It was

1588
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 3: reminiscent of the last time six years ago that I'm sorry,

1589
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 3: three years ago that you got sent to hell. Jaye.

1590
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 3: Do we have that footage?

1591
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: Oh you brought this back out? That was a good day. Huh.

1592
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

1593
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: Look, I don't like your Yes. Yes, look again, you

1594
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: can do whatever you want. You can show whatever.

1595
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 3: Laden again.

1596
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: Yes, you're the Osama bin Laden of the show.

1597
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 3: So the point of this question to John you were

1598
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 3: basically like, John, are your thirties going to be better

1599
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 3: than the twenties when you did drugs?

1600
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: And right, no, that was not the question.

1601
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 2: All right, Well you're the one saying negative, horrible things

1602
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 2: about him, not me.

1603
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 3: I don't know he's the greatest fighter of all time.

1604
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 2: I don't go out of one way to slander him.

1605
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 2: The point is you can say I'm wrong, Ask any

1606
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 2: ask here. Here's my challenge to you. Yes, here's my

1607
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 2: challenge to every viewer. Find one marine one who says

1608
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 2: my characterization of Phil Simms's pull ups are wrong.

1609
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: Find this.

1610
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 3: Look at me, Look at me, Look at it. The

1611
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 3: decade hasn't started.

1612
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: Looking at me.

1613
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 3: Under the mand calendar, It's next year was.

1614
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: A nominal versus ordinal difference. Look at me.

1615
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,479
Speaker 2: I know facts are hard for people because you guys

1616
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 2: like to believe in fantasy. Find me one, Find.

1617
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 3: Me one one Marinere's your isoin there, you go one.

1618
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: Find me one marine, Brian Campbell, find.

1619
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 3: Me I found this ship. Hey, let's move on. You

1620
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 3: like to criticize people at the gym who have bad tendencies.

1621
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 3: Look at this guy with the plumber's crack on the

1622
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 3: bench right there. No wipe down afterwards. Shout out by.

1623
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 2: The way that you can tell where this is. This

1624
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 2: is Planet Fitness because all the machines are purple.

1625
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 3: No wipe down afterwards. Oh that is so.

1626
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: Why is he wearing a belt?

1627
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 3: Do you see Derek Lewis showing some pomer crack during

1628
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 3: the Yeah, but that's understandable. I mean, I mean this,

1629
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:12,959
Speaker 3: I mean it's touched basically.

1630
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: And he's just he's just yanking the way back. You know.

1631
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 3: Hey, why don't we stay on this trend of workout fails.

1632
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 3: Let's check out this. Can you rate this girl's deadlift form? Here?

1633
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: That's not a deadlift, that's a snatch.

1634
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 3: You can call it a deadlift because she's not coming

1635
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 3: back from that.

1636
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: Look that is this is a snatch.

1637
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 3: That looks painful.

1638
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: Well, so the weight got too far behind her. Watch

1639
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 2: see how she humps it on her she she bumps

1640
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 2: it on her hip and then throws it too far behind.

1641
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 3: Her snatch and hump.

1642
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 2: Actually, you actually have to catch the weight. She pops

1643
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 2: it and then doesn't catch that.

1644
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 3: I mean she crushed some morgans that. That's very painful.

1645
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that looks not good.

1646
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 3: This is why I don't do stuff like this in public.

1647
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: I don't.

1648
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 3: I don't want to end up, you know.

1649
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. This is also be like, oh, could you do

1650
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: better than Phil Simms? No, that's why I don't put

1651
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: it on.

1652
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 3: Could you do better than the next guy? Rate? This

1653
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 3: guy's form. I don't know what you call this. Is

1654
01:06:58,640 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 3: this a squat thrust?

1655
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what you call high bar squad?

1656
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 3: First rate? His form here, it's uh.

1657
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: What is he doing?

1658
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 3: Oh? Wow? Wow? I think wow?

1659
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: Is this you practicing?

1660
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 3: If Ricky Martin should write a song about this guy?

1661
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 3: He bangs?

1662
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: Look at this guy, dude, what is he fucking doing?

1663
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna ask you. You're the judge on all things.

1664
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: He's going backwards.

1665
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, hey, sign for Spinny Ship. You got

1666
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 3: you ready for this?

1667
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go. Look at the guy away, go back,

1668
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: go back, go back, go back, go back, go back,

1669
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: go back, go back? Can you go back? Jay?

1670
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 3: Uh?

1671
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: Jay, you suck? Go back?

1672
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: Watch look at the guy on the uh the sled,

1673
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 2: the legs led in the back.

1674
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: Watch he's just looking at his dude like, what the

1675
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: fuck is wrong?

1676
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 3: He's preparing for something.

1677
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: Watch training a guy on the legs led.

1678
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 3: This is training camp.

1679
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: He's like, what the fuck are you doing?

1680
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 3: More like banging camp. Maybe he's an adult answer.

1681
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 2: Maybe this is the getting caps work right.

1682
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 3: Hey, let's go to some European mma. I believe here

1683
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 3: it's Spinny Ship time. Watch this flying knee, but more specifically,

1684
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 3: watch what happens afterwards. Oh what you made them do?

1685
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 3: The cabbage patch?

1686
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:06,959
Speaker 1: Luke?

1687
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 3: Look at that?

1688
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. Did you see that? I forgot about

1689
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: the cabbage That's a.

1690
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 3: Nineties dance, Luke. Yeah, shout out, yeah.

1691
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: Look at that zero with the counter.

1692
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 3: Look at that. Look at it.

1693
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send them stumbling.

1694
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 3: All right, Hey, let's move on here. Did you see

1695
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:28,839
Speaker 3: the picture on Instagram from Belatore welterweight champion Douglas Lima

1696
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:32,799
Speaker 3: going nose to nose with UFC welterweight champ Kamara Usman.

1697
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 3: In the caption, Doug Limo is basically like Dana White.

1698
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 3: The ball is in your court, Luke. The idea of

1699
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 3: super fights champions in both divisions and UFC and beltour

1700
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 3: probably not gonna happen. We've talked about this in the past.

1701
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 3: Actually definitely not gonna happen, and only in our dreams.

1702
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,719
Speaker 3: But if this fight took place tomorrow, what's that ship

1703
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 3: look like?

1704
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 1: I still like tomorrow's chances. But are you with me?

1705
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 2: And thinking that is one of the most interesting fights

1706
01:08:58,920 --> 01:08:59,919
Speaker 2: you could make it one hundred.

1707
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 3: And and just seeing them sometimes you just got to

1708
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 3: see them together, and I'm sure they both are.

1709
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: The Douglas was big Jesus, why do they photo come out?

1710
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 3: Are they managed by the same guy?

1711
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 2: They both No, I don't think so. I think I

1712
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 2: think uh Lim is a Brian Butler guy.

1713
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 3: Okay, but to see I think Butler is the one

1714
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 3: who put who put the photo in the atmosphere. But

1715
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 3: I've popped for it.

1716
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 1: I popped. I'm with you.

1717
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 3: Let's let's roll on here. Speaking of European and Polish

1718
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 3: m m A. Crazy things happen. Luckily we have Gribacca.

1719
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 1: I saw this.

1720
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 3: I saw that this guy kind of looks like me,

1721
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 3: right look at I don't know what he's doing, but

1722
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 3: I'm loving it.

1723
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: Again. This is you training for prom A.

1724
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 3: This is the type of performances I can get down with, Luke.

1725
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 3: That's wow.

1726
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 2: By the way, I didn't All I saw was the

1727
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 2: Jeff I didn't see. I didn't hear the audio, and you.

1728
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 3: Don't need to. We've reached completion, we've read it. Wow.

1729
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 3: That is uh yeah, that's.

1730
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: This is late stage eminem this is.

1731
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 3: Sexy violin time.

1732
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 2: Wow.

1733
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: This don't get mad at me. Back there, I see

1734
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: you making faces.

1735
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 3: Wow. Is that the rhythm method? All right, let's roll

1736
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 3: on from this, Luke. A lot of people on on

1737
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 3: the internet trying to do these, you know, challenges and stuff,

1738
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 3: you know, the mentos and coach is this lady doing?

1739
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: She gets?

1740
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Luke, here it comes dropped in.

1741
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 1: I wonder how this works.

1742
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 3: Not one, but take that.

1743
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: Take that, Luke.

1744
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 3: You've had days then like that. We have a saying

1745
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 3: on my podcast, don't tease the bag or you'll get

1746
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 3: the mess this. Oh wow, wow, Luke, Uh yeah.

1747
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 1: Remember what was it in grade school? Was it baking

1748
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: soda and vinegar? I don't know, Luke. Wow, she just

1749
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 1: didn't know what she was.

1750
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 3: I'm playing a song on my violin right now for

1751
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:40,719
Speaker 3: her tears. That's our wow. Yeah, Okay, we're gonna close

1752
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 3: with it. No dongs this week, We're gonna close.

1753
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 1: I am shocked. I am shocked.

1754
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 3: Yesterday was National Pizza Day. Did you celebrate it?

1755
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: Did not?

1756
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 3: All right, you're a big pizza fan. Let's do a

1757
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 3: medley of pizza fails. Look at this time, good lordstard. Yeah,

1758
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 3: that's I don't know how that happens. That's yeah. Wow,

1759
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 3: the rats are gonna have he's gonna be pissed. Let's

1760
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 3: roll on from there. This drunk dude ordered no pineapples

1761
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 3: and he got him and he was pissed. He's trying

1762
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 3: to send the slice to hell, but he accidentally steps

1763
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 3: in the wall. My god, it's on, Luke, it's on.

1764
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 3: It's on. Can we move the camera there? He slapped

1765
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 3: the guy with the slides and ground and pound, and

1766
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 3: I don't I think he got finished. Wow.

1767
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 2: By the way, that looks like that's a big as slice,

1768
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 2: right and also that looks like where is this? I

1769
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 2: don't know, but it looks like DC. To be honest

1770
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 2: with you, he's my beer people. No, maybe it's New York.

1771
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 3: I can't sell these are very hipsteris this is very

1772
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 3: Brooklyn right here?

1773
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? Why would you slap the guy with the slice?

1774
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 3: I think he was just gonna throw it, and that

1775
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 3: guy happened to walk in the way, and then you

1776
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 3: think that's fake. I'm never sure.

1777
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1778
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 3: Let's go to the all time greatest pizza moment in sports.

1779
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 3: Do you remember the famous Fenway pizza throw from a

1780
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 3: couple of years back. Look at this is one of

1781
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 3: the greatest moves by a fan ever foul pop. Everyone's

1782
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 3: focusing and look at this guy on we see him,

1783
01:11:58,320 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 3: see him right there highlighted.

1784
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, the PA. Of course he's wearing patren Oh, I

1785
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: just fire the slice. Of course he's wearing Patrins.

1786
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 3: Not only did that guy get douched with beer, he

1787
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:08,799
Speaker 3: caught a slice right on the shoulder.

1788
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: So what he was bitter that he interfered with the play.

1789
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 3: I think he was just looking to clown a guy.

1790
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 3: I'm down with that, all right. Look, anything can happened

1791
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 3: at a sporting event. You get drunk. NFL fans are

1792
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 3: gonna fight. Take that throw pizza. Yeah, they ended up

1793
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 3: throwing him out and arresting him. But the guy who

1794
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 3: threw the pizza, I don't know if you remember Luke

1795
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen the Andre Berto Victor Ortiz rematch. Berto wins

1796
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 3: by knockout with an uppercut, and while Victor Ortiz is

1797
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 3: walking out, Oh my god, look at coach Hoss with

1798
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 3: the with the mohawks. He's about to throw down with

1799
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,560
Speaker 3: the guy follow up to this store. I talked to

1800
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,799
Speaker 3: coach Hoss Joseph Jannek there last year about this incident.

1801
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 3: He said they could have pressed charges but once Victor

1802
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 3: Ortiz found out that the guy who threw it right

1803
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 3: there was gonna be put back in jail and separated

1804
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 3: from his kids, Victor just decided not to press charges

1805
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 3: right there.

1806
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: That was a nice guy.

1807
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he got served up.

1808
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: With a I said, no Anchovi, no dongs this week. Look,

1809
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 1: that was fun.

1810
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 3: That was probably one of the best. I don't know, Pizza,

1811
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't, I don't. Jay, Yeah, sorry, Luke,

1812
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 3: sorry you.

1813
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 2: I've never seen a straight man who loves hog more.

1814
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 3: Than dick in a box.

1815
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1816
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 3: I mean step three.

1817
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: I said this on my live chat. This is true.

1818
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,480
Speaker 1: If there was a robbery at a bank.

1819
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 2: Your answer, like the police, can you identify the suspect?

1820
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 2: Brian Camp will be like, well, I've got good news

1821
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 2: and I've got bad news. I didn't see his face,

1822
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 2: but last week I saw him in the sun at

1823
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 2: the gym. I can tell you about every inch of

1824
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 2: his dong, every color, every dislocation, every wrinkle of skin. Yeah,

1825
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 2: he's circumcised.

1826
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: I know that for a fact. Be on the looks.

1827
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 1: You need help, right all right?

1828
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's have you seen that, Chip, Luke?

1829
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 1: Now I have yes, very good.

1830
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 3: Some people are calling that the greatest segment in our

1831
01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 3: show's history.

1832
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 1: You know what it is certain, Oh I got another

1833
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 1: job people.

1834
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 2: No, No, there's a certain segment of our audience that

1835
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 2: I think they don't tune in for the first part.

1836
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 2: They kind of tune in around the questions. They just

1837
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,600
Speaker 2: want to see you delight in other men's penises.

1838
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,560
Speaker 3: That is really what I that's an unfair generalization of

1839
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 3: the spirit that I bring to both this sport and

1840
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 3: this show.

1841
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 1: And really sorry the elderly getting eaten by bears.

1842
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 3: You see this picture over my head. You think, Man,

1843
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 3: those guys are touching dicks. I think, look at the

1844
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 3: passion on their faces that look at that like the

1845
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 3: idea we look they're also kissing. Look, we are grown

1846
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 3: men who talk about other men fighting with spare clothes

1847
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 3: on inside of a cage, like think about what we do.

1848
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 3: And these guys are like, this is my life, this

1849
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 3: is my passion. I'm going to kill you. That's the

1850
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 3: spirit that we bring to the show and that they

1851
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 3: embody behind that broken frame.

1852
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 2: No, that picture is up there, by the way. The

1853
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 2: caption on the picture I'm reading here says tip to tip,

1854
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 2: they're up there because their dicks are touching their erect a.

1855
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 1: Rubbing one another.

1856
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 3: I do not represent that.

1857
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 1: Okay, time now for odds and ads. What's your.

1858
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 3: This weekend? UFC comes to New Mexico. Of all, was

1859
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 3: that UFC Rio Rancho correct? We talked about what could

1860
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 3: be next for John. There's an important life heavyweight about

1861
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 3: in that main event, Jan Blohowitz against Corey Anderson. Who

1862
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 3: do you like and is there any possible chance that

1863
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:16,839
Speaker 3: the winner gets John Jones?

1864
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

1865
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 2: Between arhould say among attisania a move to heavyweight, whether

1866
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 2: it's Stevepey or not, plus Dom making it close. If

1867
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 2: Dom had gotten blown out, it might get a little dicey.

1868
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 1: But the fact that he's still very relevant.

1869
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 3: As you think John cares about this title defense record,

1870
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 3: do you think he wants to linger because he's so

1871
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 3: passive aggressive about this heavyweight move John Jones every time

1872
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 3: he talks it's in another direction. But I think Jan

1873
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 3: Blowitch needs an exciting knockou because he looked he was

1874
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 3: so boring against Jock ra I'm sorry he needs something

1875
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 3: big here. Corey Anderson obviously is on a heck of

1876
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 3: a run, but yeah, I don't think either of them

1877
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 3: are going to get him.

1878
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm moving.

1879
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 3: But what I care about is this cole main event.

1880
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,640
Speaker 3: It's just one of these sloppy, weird circus fights that

1881
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 3: you just got to see. It's Diego Sanchez, the brawling

1882
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 3: legend against Michelle padata to backflips and all gassed himself

1883
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 3: out and got knocked out last time. Tell me you're

1884
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 3: not looking at this card and going yep, got to

1885
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 3: see what happens on that one.

1886
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: Got to say, I'm a little bit worried about Diego

1887
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: Sanchez's brain. Help.

1888
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm more than a little bit worried.

1889
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 2: The amount of like damage he's taken. He's the only

1890
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 2: one left in the Ultimate Fighter or Season one. Yes,

1891
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 2: he's out there still doing it. And then the Pereira

1892
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 2: is like a it's not like the best time I've

1893
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 2: ever seen, But he's got knockout explosive capability, so it's.

1894
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know, he'll try anything like a pelvic

1895
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 3: thrust knockout. He'll try to.

1896
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: Get that BIOA.

1897
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 3: Actually should probably get bio way. You should probably get

1898
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 3: that squad workout going right, that work on that thrust maybe.

1899
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 2: Uh, Okay, last but certainly not least I'll give a

1900
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 2: shout out. How about James Krause. We've been talking about hogs.

1901
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 2: Let's talk about some balls, some big balls. Brian Campbell,

1902
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 2: James Cross takes a fight on one twenty four thirty

1903
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 2: six hours. Notice something like that up a People kept

1904
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 2: missing this point, up a weight class, and dude, this

1905
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 2: is the one time, not one time. Sometimes guys change

1906
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 2: weight classes and you don't necessarily notice a ton of

1907
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 2: physical differences in mma.

1908
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: I noticed all of them here.

1909
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 2: Trevin Giles could eat not easily, but he was more

1910
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 2: ready to absorb the damage, and he was handing out

1911
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 2: hard hammers to James Krause. But dude, he stuck it

1912
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 2: out there, found a way to take it all.

1913
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 3: The way in a gust, which is understandable in the situation,

1914
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 3: and then found that second win in round three.

1915
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: Which unbelievable.

1916
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 2: And the guy he got the bonus, which he should have, Like,

1917
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 2: I'm really happy for him.

1918
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 1: You could have argued he won that fight.

1919
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 3: I thought he was going to win it as they

1920
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 3: head to that.

1921
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 2: But you know, in the end it didn't go his way.

1922
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 2: But shouts to James Krause for just being a man

1923
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 2: among men. Pretty amazing. Any last things about this you

1924
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 2: when you get to.

1925
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 3: Caleb Plant, the super middleweight title holder in boxing, comes

1926
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 3: back this weekend and stay busy in Nashville, not far

1927
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 3: from where he was raised in Tennessee. U P. He's

1928
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 3: got some big plans for that guy because he's a

1929
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 3: slick white guy. And yeah, and I mean that division

1930
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 3: has a lot of players. When he eventually fights Jose Benavidez,

1931
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:50,719
Speaker 3: I want to be their front row for that. I'm sorry,

1932
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 3: his brother, David Benavidez Junior, his older brother. I want

1933
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 3: I want to be their front row for that.

1934
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Speaker 1: All right, very good?

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, so that's the show today. Be on the

1936
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Speaker 2: lookout for a couple of things. Number one, Morning Combat Dissected.

1937
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Speaker 2: Number two we're back next week.

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Speaker 3: Oh you should preach about the subscription thing, like threaten what.

1939
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do? Yeah, we're I go to threaten you.

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Speaker 2: But here we are going to say, please like the

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Speaker 2: video and subscribe, Tell people about it, Send this video

1942
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Speaker 2: to somebody who needs to see this program. Because Brian's

1943
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Speaker 2: got his views and I've got my views. But there's

1944
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Speaker 2: one view that we share. There's no program in Combat

1945
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Speaker 2: sports like this. It doesn't exist. Showtime took a risk

1946
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Speaker 2: on this, which means we need folks like you out there,

1947
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Speaker 2: male or female, whatever you are. Tell people about the program,

1948
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Speaker 2: and of course you can see below here ways you

1949
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Speaker 2: can follow us on social media and then the channel itself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 3: You want to do a pull up challenge and have

1952
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Speaker 3: Phil Simms referee here?

1953
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Speaker 1: Fuck no, I'm so old in decrepit. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say I was better. I just said those

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Speaker 1: don't count because.

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Speaker 3: We're entering you and I were forty year old white

1957
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Speaker 3: guys were a little washy. I get the fat fat

1958
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Speaker 3: land space thing going on right here. We should have

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Speaker 3: like a challenge. We're just getting the best shape for

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Speaker 3: our lives. And then I don't fight or something, or

1961
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Speaker 3: do pull ups or something.

1962
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Speaker 1: At the end of how about you come to DC

1963
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Speaker 1: and lift weights with me.

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Speaker 3: That'll be a spin off morning.

1965
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Speaker 2: Tell you what I tell you about this. I'll make

1966
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Speaker 2: a promise you come to d C and you do

1967
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Speaker 2: some deadlifting with me. We'll film it and we'll share it.

1968
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Speaker 3: All right, we can we work on that that move

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Speaker 3: the guy was.

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Speaker 2: Doing, which one not the chick where you're pumping the

1971
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Speaker 2: air and then going backwards.

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Speaker 1: We could try. I've never I've never done it. I

1973
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Speaker 1: don't know what it's called.

1974
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Speaker 3: Not like standing near each other. I don't want to

1975
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Speaker 3: tip the tip right well.

1976
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Speaker 2: That the only way it works is if you spot

1977
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Speaker 2: me from the front and then we go back together

1978
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Speaker 2: at the same time.

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Speaker 3: That cancel our show, all right.

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Speaker 2: So that's Brian Campbell, I'm Blue Thomas. Thank you guys

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Speaker 2: so much for watching. We'll see you next time, and

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Speaker 2: until then, may all of your games be lawyer.

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Speaker 3: I