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Speaker 2: Listener discretion is advised. The World's a vigeonal podcast. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to Patriots Unfiltered. Alex is with us. For what reason

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Speaker 2: are we graced by your studio? What accomplishment did you

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Speaker 2: have that you want to be talk about now? I'd

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Speaker 2: like to just read a brief a brief passage which

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Speaker 2: I think Alex especially with according to do so.

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Speaker 3: This is good.

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Speaker 2: This is good. Though you're Richard Seymour. There's rumors that

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Speaker 2: he's looking to team up with him in his ownership

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Speaker 2: bid for the Raiders. I am a Patriot except for

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Speaker 2: the Raiders playing.

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Speaker 4: Everyone is having their wedding in Italy the last two summers.

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Speaker 5: Everyone's in Italy.

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Speaker 2: Who's everyone?

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Speaker 5: All the people on Instagram?

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Speaker 2: The gymnastics, I mean, I don't want to make fun.

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Speaker 2: what's with all the hand movement? Oh? She picked Beyonce

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Speaker 2: your tumble. You know what are we doing?

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Speaker 2: It is Tuesday here Atchelette Stadium, and we're sitting here

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Speaker 2: in our new studio that we launched yet last week.

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Speaker 2: But this week we have our furniture that we is

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Speaker 2: more permanent furniture, so I'm not sinking down like quicksand anymore.

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Speaker 2: And we have Paul and Evan who weren't here last week,

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Speaker 2: so now we now we really feel complete, although Deuce

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Speaker 2: back operating the cameras. Paul Evan, what do you think

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Speaker 2: your first look, I'll.

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Speaker 7: Let you go first. I'm uncomfortable.

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Speaker 3: I feel like both Paul and I are in the

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Speaker 3: same boat of changes, our nemesis, just in life in general.

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Speaker 3: So I like the look of it. It looks great,

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Speaker 3: very well done. It will take some getting used to.

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Speaker 2: Because we're not high up and elbows on the Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I will say that everything around us is fantastic, and

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Speaker 7: I got a chance to see most of that stuff

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Speaker 7: for today. We were in bad need of a facelift,

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Speaker 7: I think it looks great. Visually. It's gonna take some

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Speaker 7: getting used to sitting like this.

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Speaker 2: Sitting like this, like living room.

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Speaker 7: Right, I'm like a microphone, I'm working, I'm doing a

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Speaker 7: radio show. Yeah, like you know, taking a break and yeah,

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Speaker 7: I know everybody thinks that we just sort of well,

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Speaker 2: It's the best part of the work, right, So there'll.

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Speaker 7: Be no more lunches obviously, why not?

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Speaker 4: I mean, we are a coffee table, can't I can't

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Speaker 7: I already I aluld point that you did not? Did

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Speaker 2: Yeah? All right, I said, no, guy, why do you

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Speaker 3: He's on a diet.

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Speaker 2: That's not all of a sudden we get a new studio.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to eat anymore. No more Paul's foods.

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Speaker 7: Here, Yeah, not in here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's not really conducive, difficult.

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Speaker 7: I can't tell you how much I like all of this,

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Speaker 7: Like I told you that two weeks ago.

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Speaker 7: I love the fable that will lower down.

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Speaker 2: So when you have your food lower down and then

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Speaker 7: I was pretty complimentary of the studio I just want

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Speaker 5: It's like a European grandma.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, all right, So enough of

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Speaker 2: that great studio patriots. What are we talking about. We're

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Speaker 2: talking about Matt Judehan. We're talking about training camp in

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Speaker 7: According to his agent, the charges of the gambling and

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Speaker 2: What do we think about Matt Judon?

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Speaker 7: You guys have to get me up to speed on

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean Greg Bdard, one of your guys came

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Speaker 2: the current contract now. And then jud went to social

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Speaker 2: So that's what we know, right, Am I missing anything?

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Speaker 2: but the thing is, if he's looking for the same

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Speaker 2: not a villain if he wants more money. I don't

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Speaker 7: No, but I yeah, so I would read that as

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Speaker 7: him saying, don't I want to play. I want this

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Speaker 2: Because I want that. Don't make me the villain. I

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Speaker 7: I mean full disclosure. This is I'm catching up. I

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Speaker 7: don't know this story. I don't know what Badard wrote

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Speaker 2: Dollar Morgan Tippett Ledso Brady's right behind me, law Hannah.

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Speaker 2: I think every one of those guys at one point

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Speaker 2: that's just what being a professional athlete is these days.

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Speaker 2: I don't consider him a villain for doing that.

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Speaker 4: I took his tweet moras, don't put words in my mouth.

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Speaker 4: I never explicitly said I wouldn't play. But you also

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Speaker 5: Going to say the right thing publicly, but.

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Speaker 2: Action, and he will be here in some form. He

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really have any problem with any of it.

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Speaker 3: I feel like what Badard reported was, I do not

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Speaker 2: Now do you have any empathy for the Patriots side

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Speaker 2: not going to give you fifteen million, because like we

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Speaker 2: kind of got screwed last year.

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Speaker 3: Well, but I feel like last year was putting a

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Speaker 3: we're probably going to be back in the same position

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Speaker 3: okay with that. There's a couple of different avenues they

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Speaker 3: we'll give you five million bucks. Here it is. They

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Speaker 3: Or they could tack on an incentive package onto his deal,

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Speaker 3: and because he only played four games last year, those

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Speaker 2: See, I'm guessing that's what it is. I'm guessing the

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Speaker 3: Right, So you look at some of the comps. You know,

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Speaker 3: Zadarius Smith just signed with the Browns on a two year,

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Speaker 3: nine years old. You know, it's three years younger than

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Speaker 3: probably a twelve million dollar player at this point right now,

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Speaker 3: whatever that math is eleven point twenty five. So that's

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Speaker 3: what we're gonna pay you. If you're Matthew Judon, you're

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Speaker 3: that's where the gap is right now between the two sides.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I was just gonna ask what he's supposed

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Speaker 4: to make this season. Things stand now for just guarantee Becua.

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Speaker 3: Six, so he's due six and a half in base

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Speaker 3: salary and then like a million's tied up and you know,

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Speaker 3: workout per game roster bonuses things like that, so he'll

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Speaker 3: get all of those. He's gonna be on the team.

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Speaker 3: So he's probably gonna make about seven point five this year.

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Speaker 3: So if you're the Patriots, do you say we'll put

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Speaker 3: a incentive package onto your deal that's worth five million

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Speaker 3: And all you have to do is play five games

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Speaker 3: because he only played four last year.

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Speaker 2: I have an idea to get the deal over the

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Speaker 2: top and get it done. Toyota because and if you

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Speaker 2: want to see Toyota's best office, including those not seen

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Speaker 2: Toyota's official website for deals from the official vehicle, the

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Speaker 2: New England Patriots. Toyota. Let's sign up, Judaan right, let's

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Speaker 2: get going.

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Speaker 7: So I'm glad he is I want a Toyota Can.

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Speaker 2: He's very Remember who was a Chad the linebacker Brown?

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Speaker 2: Chad Brown came in with the Mini Cooper. No way, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: They must have to customize the seat for him.

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Speaker 7: The guaranteed money, though, I I'm glad that Alex brought

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Speaker 2: And they want security, they want money for a number of.

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Speaker 7: What I would wonder to me the big question for

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, James Pettigrew the most interesting Patriots

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Speaker 2: I I do think though that you know, you take

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Speaker 7: So like you know, you know, and if you want

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it just feels different than the other guys that

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Speaker 7: He's a little bit of an outlier, and he was

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's no doubt that he makes the Patriots

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Speaker 3: It hurt Ooja certainly. I think felt that as well

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Speaker 3: he's a valuable piece for them. I just wonder, with

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Speaker 4: Just too well, Like you're right, it's the two older

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Speaker 5: So clearly a pattern here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dylan and Nashville has a lament that a lot

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Speaker 7: I mean it's actually wrong too. Yeah, when you get hurt,

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Speaker 2: That's the thing. It's changed a little bit. The better

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Speaker 7: I don't either. I just I would like some clarity

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there has to be a villain

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Speaker 3: And if it was just business, to me, I would

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Speaker 2: All right, So that's Judon, that that's you trade him.

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Speaker 2: Tell me what the offer is. I'm I'm not close

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so I would. I would definitely side with Evan.

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Speaker 7: I would trade them, and I think I've talked about

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Speaker 7: So they have the championship caliber defense, don't take pieces

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Speaker 7: Maybe someone loses a pass rusher and you get a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just feel like you also open opportunities

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Speaker 2: Do you think how the Patriots are playing up to

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Speaker 2: a sudden, Wow, this team's a little better than we

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Speaker 2: So that affects your decision, right. A couple of Paul's

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Speaker 2: five or six wins, that was pretty much the consensus.

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Speaker 2: Turran said that, yeah, and he's saying in the six

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Speaker 2: consider that a good season. Believe it or not. Folks,

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Speaker 2: I just want to baby steps right now. We're starting

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Speaker 5: We just want progress.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're starting from scratch in so many areas.

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Speaker 3: The only way that they make the playoffs or have

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Speaker 2: That can happen. But I want to be realistic.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's totally fair. I mean, I think their

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Speaker 3: probably four or five wins.

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Speaker 2: Again floor, but so you're even so if May is

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Speaker 2: c J. Stroud, that's their ceiling.

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Speaker 3: Their schedules are really difficult.

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Speaker 7: Yep.

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Speaker 3: So they're going to in order to get from my

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Speaker 3: ceiling of seven to ten or eleven, they're going to

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Speaker 3: have to hit some injury luck or some sort of thing.

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Speaker 4: There's a quarterback that goes down, there's gonna be a

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Speaker 4: big key player that goes.

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Speaker 5: Down and changes. I mean, we saw it the last

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Speaker 5: couple of seasons.

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Speaker 2: Sure, a couple of years ago. They tents every week.

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Speaker 3: Right, they have a schedule they played in twenty two

449
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Speaker 3: where they're playing backup six straight backup quarterbacks. Then okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: maybe I would increase the from seven to the ceiling

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Speaker 3: from seven to ten or something like that.

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Speaker 2: The one thing I'm thinking, pol we'll put a fridge

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Speaker 2: in here with the diet pepsis.

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Speaker 7: I think that would be wonderful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah's a good idea.

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Speaker 2: OK. No, I think I think reasonably five or six wins,

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Speaker 2: that's the reasonable answer. Yes, it could go south. I

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Speaker 2: do think there is that possibility you could go over that,

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Speaker 2: and of course we're all hoping for that, but a

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Speaker 2: lot of things have to fall in place for that,

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Speaker 2: and I'm including the defense being as good, if not

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Speaker 2: better than last year, because again, the schedules a little

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Speaker 2: bit better. So there was that run last year that

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Speaker 2: kept the points down when you're playing Gardner Minshew. I

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Speaker 2: think there was a run of three or four games

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Speaker 2: where they didn't the defense didn't give up more than

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Speaker 2: ten points. Problem is they couldn't score more than seven,

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Speaker 2: so they lost all those games. If that happens this

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Speaker 2: year and Drake May is a competent quarterback, those losses

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Speaker 2: could turn into wins and now maybe you have eight

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Speaker 2: wins on the season. I don't know, so I think

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Speaker 2: depending on how May is and if the defense is

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Speaker 2: like it was last year, the ceiling could could be raised.

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Speaker 2: It could be raised, but again a lot of things

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Speaker 2: have to fall in place for that to have.

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Speaker 7: H I would say a lot of those things that

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Speaker 7: we're talking about falling into place happened last year and

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Speaker 7: they still went four and thirteen. Like but you can

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Speaker 7: they didn't get Rogers twice, they didn't get even Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 7: they didn't get But take last They played a lot ofs.

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Speaker 2: Last year, right, but take last year's team, the same schedule,

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Speaker 2: the same games, insert Drake May as a competent quarterback.

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Speaker 2: How many more games do they win?

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Speaker 7: One? Don't? I just don't think they were very good.

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Speaker 3: They weren't very good. But if you they weren't.

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Speaker 2: Very good, specifically on offense.

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Speaker 7: I think they would have probably I think you could

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Speaker 7: argue that they would have won at least one of

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Speaker 7: the Colts Giants game. Yeah, those two games, maybe even

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Speaker 7: give them both of them.

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Speaker 3: So you say two, Yeah, okay, that's probably more fair.

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Speaker 2: So now you're up to six wins.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean, he's why it's called the ceiling.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going to have to be in order for

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Speaker 3: them to break through the ceiling. He's going to have

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Speaker 3: to be the offensive Rookie of the Year well and.

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Speaker 7: Totally different.

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Speaker 2: And as we see with totally and as we see

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Speaker 2: with c J. Stroud and all the good quarterbacks, they

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Speaker 2: raised the level of the players that are around them.

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Speaker 7: And that's why if Evans, you know, that comp is

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Speaker 7: c J. Stroud Rookie of the Year, you know, MVP

504
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Speaker 7: votes and whatnot, that lifts everybody. Right, So if that happens,

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Speaker 7: then the ceiling is higher than five or six years.

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Speaker 2: So that's what we hope and pray for.

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Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, absolutely, I'll just settle for a good,

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Speaker 7: competent quarterback who shows promise.

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Speaker 2: Inside the NFL. I don't know if we talked about

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Speaker 2: it last year, last week, I forget, but Bill Belichick

511
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Speaker 2: is going to be a permanent member of that show.

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Speaker 2: What station? Oh that's on the CW.

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Speaker 3: CW now, But that's the to me, that's the best

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Speaker 3: fit for him. It's definitely better than him being in

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Speaker 3: studio on Sundays or you know, the Jimmy Johnson Terry

516
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Speaker 3: Bradshaw type role, or even on Games Live on Gibson.

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Speaker 3: He's going to do the Manning cast. I think a

518
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Speaker 3: little bit.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen that show in years it's still kind

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Speaker 2: of like a run around, you know, a recap of

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Speaker 2: the week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I feel like that's that's the best

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Speaker 3: forum for him. It's like the NFL one hundred thing

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Speaker 3: that he did with Brady, you know, just letting him

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Speaker 3: sit in a studio just like this and talk about football,

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Speaker 3: but not putting him into a game or a studio

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Speaker 3: show on a Sunday pregame where he says, you have

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Speaker 3: two minutes to give your take. Bill, You know you

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Speaker 3: don't want to do that. But if you give him

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Speaker 3: a little bit of a long runway that he can

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Speaker 3: just kind of wax poetic about football, which is what

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Speaker 3: that show is, then I think he'll do pretty well

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Speaker 3: with it.

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Speaker 2: All right, A five to five past five hundred is

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Speaker 2: the ace ticket hotline. Web radio at Patriot dot com

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Speaker 2: is the way you email us. Let's go to Okay,

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Speaker 2: so this is Oh, there we go. First time you're

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Speaker 2: in this wild mouse here? Can you hear me?

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Speaker 7: Can?

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Bill and DC? What's up?

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Speaker 7: Bill?

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Speaker 2: Yes? That is search on your studio, same problems. Bill?

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Speaker 2: Are you there? Bill?

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Speaker 8: You can you hear me?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 7: Bill?

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Speaker 2: What's up? So?

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Speaker 8: I did some research on quarterbacks that started and didn't

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Speaker 8: start as rookies want to.

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Speaker 2: Share it, Okay.

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Speaker 8: I looked at the thirty top quarterbacks in the modern

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Speaker 8: era according to Pro Football Reference, so they have a

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Speaker 8: career weighted approximate value. What top is like Tom Brady

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Speaker 8: and Peyton Manning. The last one the thirty, Steve McNair,

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Speaker 8: seemed okay. So of those ten of them started as rookies,

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Speaker 8: oney of them didn't. The only thing I found one

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Speaker 8: there was no meaningful perform between.

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Speaker 9: Those two groups.

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Speaker 8: They both did equally well on average. There was also

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Speaker 8: no trend line over time. It's not like you know

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Speaker 8: in the seventies and eighties. It was different, kind of

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Speaker 8: the same spread throughout history. The only meaningful gifts I

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Speaker 8: could find at all was that the starters had like

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Speaker 8: a normal distribution in their careers, like a bell curve

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Speaker 8: about how kind of good or bad they were on

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Speaker 8: that scale, whereas the non starters were a power distribution.

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Speaker 8: They're kind of backed up against them not so good.

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Speaker 8: Tom Brady was like a big outlier. And then you know,

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Speaker 8: I possibly maybe it's that when you're like highly drafted,

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Speaker 8: when you're like Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, Elway, Staff or Bledsoe,

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Speaker 8: and you had a chance to start early. Maybe the

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Speaker 8: fact they were going to be good was obvious. But anyway,

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Speaker 8: that's my two cents on this.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, you guys want to comment. Mine is

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Speaker 2: that Bill has a lot of time on his hands.

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Speaker 7: But other than that, I, without knowing what the thirty quarterbacks,

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Speaker 7: I would say that he said that modern era, and

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Speaker 7: you know it's all the same. I don't think it's

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Speaker 7: all the same. I think a guy like Steve McNair

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Speaker 7: and Bledsoe as examples, are not in the same eras this.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Zach Bryant is here, they're getting ready

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Speaker 2: for his concerts so attractively. Yeah, if you hear any

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Speaker 2: music in the background they're doing, we'll give them a little.

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Speaker 7: Extra they're getting give you a little extra to that.

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Speaker 7: So I do think that there are and I've always

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Speaker 7: said this, I think it's case by case. I think

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Speaker 7: to just say you shouldn't sit because you don't need

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Speaker 7: to sit is wrong. I personally think I would rather

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Speaker 7: my guy play, But I don't think it's wrong if

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Speaker 7: you say he should sit because he's not ready, I

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Speaker 7: don't think that's wrong. I think you have to look

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Speaker 7: at it individually, case by case in recent memory. You know, Mahomes,

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Speaker 7: Jordan Love, you know, Aaron Rodgers, you know, you know

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Speaker 7: talking about in the last twenty years. Yeah, those are

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Speaker 7: guys that sat had a lot of success. There is

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Speaker 7: almost overwhelming the amount of first round picks that play

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Speaker 7: right away. But I mean there's very few that that's

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Speaker 7: it anymore.

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Speaker 2: There's very few that's set, and the ones that sit

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Speaker 2: usually are behind an established playoff caliber quarterback, and so

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Speaker 2: there's no urgent need to get them out there. Listen,

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Speaker 2: I'm on record, Drake May will be the starter on

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Speaker 2: week one for this team.

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Speaker 7: You've been all in on that. To me, there's no

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Speaker 7: I'm just hoping that someone's telling you this every once.

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Speaker 2: In a while, Freddie You No, no one's telling me this.

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Speaker 7: Bat phone.

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Speaker 2: If there's a reason, if there's a reason why the

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Speaker 2: guy needs to sit, sit them. But if the reason

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Speaker 2: is that's just my philosophy, you.

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Speaker 7: Know, quarterbacks, that's my point.

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Speaker 2: Then I'm out. He should be playing. There's no better

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Speaker 2: way to get better at anything than by doing it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 7: I mean, if we go out to training camp next

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Speaker 7: week and we see Drake May, you know, having problems,

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Speaker 7: clear obvious problems getting out of the huddle, establishing communication,

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Speaker 7: getting the team set. Ye, he's not ready, and we

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Speaker 7: can see it. These are obvious things that we can see.

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Speaker 7: I don't expect that based on what we saw in

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Speaker 7: the spring. We didn't see any real signs of that

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Speaker 7: at all.

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Speaker 2: Now spring and we'll have a good comparison because Jacoby

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Speaker 2: Brissett's an established veteran who should look like he knows

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Speaker 2: what he's doing. So if there's a difference that way,

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Speaker 2: that well Besett looks like he knows what he's doing

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Speaker 2: in May doesn't okay. But if they look the same,

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Speaker 2: he's ready.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But I also think you have to factor in

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Speaker 3: a little bit what's going on around him. If the

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Speaker 3: offensive line continues to be a mess, then you do

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Speaker 3: have to think twice about putting a rookie quarterback who

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Speaker 3: is trying to improve footwork and mechanics and things like that.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to put him into that fire just yet.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you give it four weeks into the regular sea,

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Speaker 3: but do you really think.

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Speaker 2: That you know, once we get to late August that

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Speaker 2: the offensive line it's going to look like that. I

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Speaker 2: mean it might on week one might no, but do

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Speaker 2: you think it will in August or late late August?

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Speaker 2: By late August? Well, the offensive line, what do you

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Speaker 2: think Do you think it'll be a hot mess or

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Speaker 2: do you think okay, they can they can manage.

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Speaker 3: Probably somewhere in between. Like, I don't think it's gonna

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Speaker 3: be a hot mess because coaching wise, they should be

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Speaker 3: pretty well coached.

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Speaker 7: Be Do you think it was a hot mess last year? No? Okay,

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Speaker 7: then I don't think it'll be a hot mess. What

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Speaker 7: do you think. I don't think it'll be any worse.

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Speaker 2: I think it could. Listen, there were communication issues, but

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Speaker 2: there was coaching issues, and there were well I was

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Speaker 2: about to say, some of those issues were due to coaching.

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Speaker 5: Well injuries.

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Speaker 3: It never it never worked with Adrian Club No from

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Speaker 3: Jump Street. It did not. It did not take out

656
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: the leave at the end of the season. It wasn't

657
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: working from day one with him. So in that respect,

658
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: you would think that Scott Peters and Alex Van Pelt

659
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: are going to be in a much better spot to

660
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: coach this group, both just being on the same page

661
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: together and also coaching the group in general. But they

662
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: have major question marks at tackle major I mean, Chuk

663
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 3: sikor For was not necessarily a starting right tackle, and

664
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 3: now they're asking him to play left tackle. So that's

665
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: gonna be a big question mark. And this team's got

666
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: some pass rushers on its own because they're only practicing

667
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 3: against the Eagles one time, right, so we're not gonna

668
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 3: have a ton of joint practices. But if assuming he's

669
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: out there, if Matha Judon's coming off the left side

670
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: and he's untouched and he's dancing out there because no

671
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 3: one can get a hand on him, that's a problem.

672
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 3: And I don't know if you want to put your

673
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: rookie quarterback without a blindside protector that can hold his water.

674
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 5: You can't keep him in a bubble either. Though. It's

675
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 5: never gonna be a perfect situation.

676
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 3: And no, it's never gonna be perfect. It's ever gonna

677
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: be perfect. But there's a line, and at some point

678
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 3: I would just like to see it in the regular season.

679
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: Maybe. Yeah, Well, if this team is any if there's

680
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: any similarities between this team and Bill's team and it

681
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: and it's you know that bad at tackle, you'll see

682
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: them make a move again. Don't look at what they say,

683
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: look at what they do. They'll they'll have to make

684
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: a move.

685
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 7: That's what they did last year. But like, those are

686
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 7: the moves that you're going to make. You're going to

687
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 7: get Tyrone, Wheatley and Badarian Lowe. Yeah, I mean, if

688
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 7: you're not going to make a move and get Anthony.

689
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, like, was the

690
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: line that great? No, I'm sure p f F wise,

691
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: it wasn't ranked very high in the league, but it wasn't.

692
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 5: Totally as probably going to be.

693
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: They were dead last and past block win rate last year,

694
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: but by a country mind Okay, but.

695
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 7: I think they're ranked twenty eighth now by your your boys.

696
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean in terms of the projection going into

697
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: the season. The biggest thing with the line to me

698
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 3: is is figuring out where you're gonna play Mike on Wentu, Like, see,

699
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 3: is he a tacklers guard? You got to make up

700
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 3: your mind.

701
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: I think they want him to be a guard?

702
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 7: Can I play Devil's Advocate? I know that's really you

703
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 7: never do that. That's character for me. I get it. So,

704
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 7: like two years ago, the line was a problem. Matt

705
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 7: Patricia was the offensive coordinator, he was the offensive line coach.

706
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 7: We all said he has too much on his plate.

707
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 7: He's never been on the offensive side. But they fixed it.

708
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 7: They went out and they got a real offensive line

709
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 7: coach and Adrian Clem who went like eight years at

710
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 7: Oregon without ever allowing a sack, and everybody gave him

711
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 7: credit for it, and everybody was really excited about it.

712
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 7: And I think Evan's description of the Adrian Clem era

713
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 7: is accurate. It never worked, it failed, it never worked.

714
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 7: But I think we were talking like this well last

715
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 7: year at this time about how much better it's going

716
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 7: to be because Adrian Klem is really an athne coach.

717
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 7: This guy's never been an offensive line coach. He's been

718
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 7: an assistant under arguably the best offensive line coach. So

719
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 7: we're all assuming. I would agree, That's why I said

720
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 7: I'm playing Devil's advocate. I would agree. I'm feeling much

721
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 7: better about Scott Peters than I was. But you just

722
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 7: don't know until you see it. And I don't think

723
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 7: they have the personnel to just go out there and

724
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 7: say it won't be a train rack, right.

725
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: I just think the better thing about it right now

726
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: was Scott Peters. Is that to me, and it's just

727
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 3: my opinion. Adrian Clem was forced on Bill O'Brien a

728
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 3: little bit. I don't necessarily think Bill O'Brien was gung

729
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: ho about hiring Adrian Clem to begin with. It wasn't

730
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: one of his guys. Alex Van Pelt handpicked Scott Peters

731
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: to come with him too. That's true from Cleveland too here,

732
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: So that's true. One of his guys that's been drilling

733
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 3: his techniques, that's been in his offense for the last

734
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 3: four or five years and has been, you know, someone

735
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 3: that should be on the same page as the coordinator.

736
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: So hopefully that works out a little bit better.

737
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: So Andrew in La, I know, Paul, you might be

738
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 2: a little uncomfortable with the new set, but he's saying

739
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: that you're looking great. He says, Tan Paul is looking

740
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: like George Hamilton in those Ritz Toasted Cracker commercials yesterday.

741
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 7: My legs talk.

742
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I could just see I could just

743
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: see Paul sitting here with a bud Light, because bud

744
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: Light is easy to drink, easy to enjoy. It's the

745
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: official beer sponsor of the New England Patriots, so we

746
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 2: get that little cooler here.

747
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 7: I gotta start scratching my back though, I'm really peeling

748
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 7: a lot in the.

749
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 5: Back o the new couches.

750
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: Come on, man, So you were really out there sunning?

751
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 7: Huh?

752
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: I know. Were you at Atlantis? I was, Yeah, a

753
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: lot of kids, great, great vacation. Yeah, a lot of fun.

754
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: You get on the slide?

755
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 7: I did not, the boys did.

756
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 2: Were you in the shark tank?

757
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 7: Well, actually in the shark.

758
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: Yeah no, isn't there a thing where you go in

759
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: but it's like glass, but the sharks all around you?

760
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 7: Yeah?

761
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

762
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 7: I sent a picture to Deuce saying our shark. Yeah he

763
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 7: knew what it meant.

764
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I was on the Jaws Bridge.

765
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 2: There you go in Amityville?

766
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 7: Did you jump off? I'm in Amity Horror.

767
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 3: It's amity it's also not It's also not a real place,

768
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: which I think is kind of silly, Like did they

769
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 3: not have the rights to.

770
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: It? Was all bluffs?

771
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 4: Right?

772
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me tell you that there's all kinds of

773
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: legal stuff you don't want. When we were on uh

774
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: in site, they had to make they used our names.

775
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: They had to make sure that within a certain mile

776
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: radius of the show, there wasn't anyone or where the

777
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: show is depicted, there wasn't anyone with the same names

778
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: as us.

779
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 7: Right, remember Ferrara, It's like a nose dive off the tobin. Yeah.

780
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's a lot of legal stuff.

781
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 7: Is that is that my clip?

782
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: A five five pass five hundred the a stict line.

783
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: Todd's in North Carolina? What's up?

784
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 9: Todd Studio looks something like Skelvino with design.

785
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 10: Not a big fan.

786
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 9: We'll say, Alexander's doing a good job of brightening it up.

787
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 9: So we get the PU girls to make it look good.

788
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 9: But let's go on to the more important meet of

789
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 9: the subject. This year, I think that what's being called

790
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 9: as the floor for the wins, that's your ceiling. Got

791
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 9: a new head coach, never done it before. Got a

792
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 9: new guy doing your offense, never done it before, new

793
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 9: defensive coach, never done it before. Rookie quarterback, o line

794
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 9: problems that you're not sure about a little bit, you know,

795
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 9: you got a little bit of you know, good stuff

796
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 9: going on the d. But realistically, this is rebuilt. This

797
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 9: is really really rebuild year one.

798
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 10: That's what this is.

799
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: No I mean, And that's why most of the experts

800
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: have the Patriots at one of the lowest win teams.

801
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 7: You know, that's why Fox reason.

802
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 8: I think that.

803
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, and they were three three wins and they was

804
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 7: the lowest by two games.

805
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's like US, Tennessee and Carolina for most

806
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 2: most places have US at the bottom with them. I agree,

807
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: And exactly what you're talking about, Todd is that's the reason.

808
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 9: Yeah, And I'm not going to be depressed when it

809
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 9: happened because it's year one of a rebuild.

810
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 8: Really.

811
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 9: That other stuff when Bill was here was all kind

812
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 9: of I don't know if he was chasing records or

813
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 9: what was going on, but it didn't feel like a rebuild.

814
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 11: It felt like, how.

815
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 10: Can I get my wins type thing and split the air?

816
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 9: This feels like a rebuilt to me.

817
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 10: So what are you guys?

818
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 9: Is it the same feeling for you? And I'll take

819
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 9: the answer up there, thanks guys.

820
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily be able to argue with any

821
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 7: specific thing that Todd just said, because I think everything

822
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 7: he said was probably fact.

823
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 2: It's a fact.

824
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 7: I think that they did rebuild initially in twenty twenty,

825
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 7: the COVID year. Yeah, the roster was pretty barren that year. Now,

826
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 7: clearly he went out and signed all those free agents

827
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 7: twenty one, so that was the bandid that he was

828
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 7: trying to put on. You know, it gave him a

829
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 7: little bit of a bump, like it does with most

830
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 7: teams that do that, and then it fell back. And

831
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 7: I agree with Todd. This to me is a reset,

832
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 7: the restart of the rebuild. Yeah, I got they gets on.

833
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 7: And I know we've had a lot of calls, a

834
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 7: lot of comments, people saying, well, it's been five years,

835
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 7: but Gerd Mayo has been the coach since since uh

836
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 7: January January seventeenth. I want to say, so, it hasn't

837
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 7: been five years for Jiroid Mayo, right right, This is

838
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 7: this is a rebuild. This is starting now. In my view,

839
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 7: I agree with Todd on that.

840
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 3: The only thing I would push back on what Todd

841
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 3: said is this the fact that Alex Van Pelts never

842
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: done it before. He's never called plays at a regular

843
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 3: you know, every single game before. But there's much more

844
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: to coordinating than just calling plays. He's been an offensive

845
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: coordinator in the league for quite some time. I just

846
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 3: I feel like we sometimes get a little bit too

847
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 3: caught up in the in the play calling aspect of it,

848
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 3: like that's the only part of the job. He's been

849
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 3: game planning He's been you know, building tenants and foundational

850
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 3: elements of an offense for decades, you know, since he

851
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 3: started coaching, So it's not that he's totally new to it.

852
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: The other points that he made are all fair. Why

853
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 3: we all kind of have them the same four or five?

854
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 3: Maybe they eke out one one more six win category, right.

855
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I would just say, like what you guys

856
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 7: have been talking about since last year ended. I mean,

857
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 7: as bad as that team was last year, they definitely

858
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 7: could have won a couple more.

859
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

860
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 7: So that's why I say the season three.

861
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: That's the NFL. That's not just the Patriots. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah.

862
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 7: But like it's rare that you see a team that

863
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 7: is so devoid. It's not like the seventy six Bucks

864
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 7: are walking in and they have no shot. Any game

865
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 7: they play. The Patriots will have a chance to win

866
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 7: all their games. They'll be underdogs probably and maybe all

867
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 7: of them.

868
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 3: I believe they are currently underdogs in every game.

869
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 7: You know, but the margin of difference to me between

870
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 7: really good and really bad in the NFL is not

871
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 7: that great. I know that sounds silly, but it's good.

872
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: Good season shot the world gonna shot the world like

873
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 2: the Red Sox, Pretty your Boys, your Fun Bunch. They're

874
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 2: playing well.

875
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 7: Marky Mock and the Fun Bunch playing well.

876
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: Although I see I was one of the first on

877
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: the band to say that they're a fun team.

878
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 3: Are you off?

879
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: No, I'm not off, but I'm seeing a couple of

880
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: chinks that other people aren't seeing.

881
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 7: I definitely have my concerns, but I tend to look

882
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 7: at that.

883
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: No, I see how losing a little bit of movement

884
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: from left from right to left.

885
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: They're not the sweeper sweepers not.

886
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem to have the sharpness that it had earlier.

887
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 7: So it's all about workload. These guys have already established

888
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 7: their career highs Crawford, how although I have severe concerns

889
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 7: about those guys, and I think the bullpen is getting

890
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 7: worked into the ground. Yeah, which you've already seen a

891
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 7: lot of these guys on the d L Martin Slayton

892
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 7: or on the d L Now I think, yeah, so

893
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 7: I have that right.

894
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see what happens. The All Star break will help.

895
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 3: That always helps. But can we go from being a

896
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 3: fun bunch to a real contender? Can we can we stop?

897
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 7: Well, that's that's up to Craig Bresler, right, But it.

898
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 3: Just feels like I kind of feel the same way

899
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 3: sometimes about the Patriots, but I can be realistic about

900
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: where they're at organizationally. The Red Sox should not be

901
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 3: the Kansas City Royals. They're not a fun team. They

902
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 3: are a big market ball club. But it was fun. No,

903
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 3: they can be fun, but that shouldn't be the feeling.

904
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 3: They had a fun.

905
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: Season, but you know, like you should be like a

906
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 2: lot of what I see. I'm not as hard on

907
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: the Patriots ownership, I mean the Red Sox ownership as

908
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: a lot of people are, because it seems to me like, yeah,

909
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 2: they didn't get some of the top guys. They didn't

910
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 2: get Otani. I don't even know if they were going

911
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: after him. But you know, over the last couple of years,

912
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: they brought in guys like Trevor Story, who's heard they

913
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: brought in like at least two other big name free

914
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: agents who are hurt.

915
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 7: But Trevor Story is a big name free agent they

916
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 7: brought in and got hurt. The other guys they got

917
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 7: guys that no one else wanted. That's the only one.

918
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 2: Like the Yoshida, No, not Yoshida.

919
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 7: They were roundly pants and oh, by the way, he

920
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 7: stinks except for one night in New York.

921
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: Who was a gmlun was a fun game. What's the

922
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: pitcher's name that that got hurt right away? Jimmelli or yeah, Gilio.

923
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 7: No one wanted them. He was the one of the

924
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 7: worst starting pitchers in baseball last year.

925
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: I thought he was pretty good.

926
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 7: He was like five years ago for the White Sox.

927
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 7: But he's been hurt. The point is just, well, he's

928
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 7: been ineffective. Now he's hurt. I'm sorry.

929
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: It's been a fun first half of the season for

930
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 3: the Red Sox. Yeah, but now for me to take

931
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 3: them seriously, we have to go from fun to actually

932
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 3: In order.

933
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 7: To do that, they need to add to the roster.

934
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 7: This roster cannot play better than it played.

935
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: But I think I think though that the Patriots ownership

936
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: mentality going into the season is we've got a lot

937
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 2: of injuries to keep players, We're not going to be

938
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 2: that good. And I think they've been taken by surprise

939
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: by how good they're doing. Not just us, but I

940
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: think ownership was, and I think they're just a little

941
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: bit slow to the table about Okay, this team is worthy.

942
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 7: A little upset about it.

943
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: Well, maybe this team is worth investing in. I think

944
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: they've just been a little bit slower than the fans

945
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: are because we all like, let's go. But I think

946
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 2: they're looking at this a little bit more, you know, right,

947
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: you know, with calculation tied to it. We're just emotional.

948
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 7: Well, for some reason, people thought when they were playing

949
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 7: five hundred that they were overachieving. They're overachieving now at

950
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 7: eleven games over five hundred, But for the first two

951
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 7: and a half months of the season, they played like

952
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 7: everybody thought they were going to play. They're gonna win

953
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 7: some and lose some. Then they started just winning them. Yeah,

954
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 7: Like I don't want to say that, like seventeen and

955
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 7: seven in the last twenty four games. I mean that's

956
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 7: better than yeah.

957
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: But I think bringing in another start, bringing in a

958
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: right handed bat, I think obviously it's going to hurt them.

959
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: And when I hear players saying that, then I think

960
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: ownership really needs to do it. Because there's one thing.

961
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: There's one aspect of the argument where it's like the

962
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: players are like, no, we've got a good team. You

963
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: know what they you bring in players you don't think

964
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: we're good enough, but I think you hear players saying

965
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: we could use one more starter in a right handed bat.

966
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 7: And this is the same story that they've been telling

967
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 7: the last two years. Jansen Dever's Cora. They've been openly

968
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 7: begging Heim Bloom to do something. So now there's a

969
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 7: new guy there. It's Breslo now, so let's see. I know,

970
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 7: but let's see if he does anything different.

971
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 3: Nests and interviews are brutal.

972
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 7: Let's see if he does anything different, and I would

973
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 7: change my tune in a hurry and stop mocking you

974
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 7: if they do. If they bring in a you know,

975
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 7: bring in a starting pitcher and maybe you know, a

976
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 7: right handed bat, and I would look at the team,

977
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 7: you know significant I'm not just talking about.

978
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 3: You are trading any of the big three in them.

979
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 7: I would absolutely if you could get that kid from

980
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 7: that everybody loves Crochet from the White Sox. I would

981
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 7: trade Meyer for him. I know you're not getting him

982
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 7: from Meyer, but I would that would definitely be interested.

983
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 3: I feel like Meyer at this at some point.

984
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 2: I don't know.

985
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,959
Speaker 3: I hate the baseball minor league system. It just tries

986
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 3: me absolutely nuts because we just take forever for these

987
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 3: guys to get to the major leagues, and I keep

988
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 3: hearing about how Myer's having a great season in Portland

989
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 3: or wherever the heck he's playing, and it's like, but

990
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: does that mean anything?

991
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 2: You know?

992
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 3: Is he gonna be Is he actually gonna be good

993
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 3: in the big league?

994
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 7: So before I went away, I got a chance to

995
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 7: do a show with Matt McCarthy and and then you

996
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 7: get Trevor Millikan and they're like these sime heads what

997
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 7: I just call him, Trevor Millian, Tyler Millikan. I apologize

998
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 7: because I really like Tyler. That was bad, But they'll

999
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 7: get you all whooped up, Like to what Evan's talking about.

1000
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 7: All these guys in the minor league farm everywhere, you know,

1001
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 7: and they have log jams at some of these middle

1002
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 7: endfield positions. I don't know who's The hard part about

1003
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 7: being a GM is identifying which ones of these guys

1004
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 7: are gonna be worth keeping and which ones that you

1005
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 7: can live with. And that's what Dombrowski was excellent at.

1006
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 7: Every guy he traded turned out to be average at best,

1007
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 7: in most cases, not good at all, and he was

1008
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 7: able to make moves to augment the major league roster

1009
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 7: while not really losing anything for the future. That's what

1010
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 7: you have to do. Breslo's got to figure out is

1011
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 7: it Meyer, is it Roman? Anthony? Is it Teal? I

1012
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 7: mean it wouldn't be tealed. That's too much.

1013
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: I just like having fun watching.

1014
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 7: I don't get into Fred, Marky, Mark and the fun Bunch.

1015
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 3: These are the guys that they.

1016
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 7: Anybody could tell me they've been playing well for the

1017
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 7: last month. Fred told me before they were playing well

1018
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 7: that they're they're they're turning the corner. They're fun to watch,

1019
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 7: and they were fun to watch. You were right. I

1020
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 7: was wrong yet again.

1021
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: Austin's in Illinois on the ACE ticket hotline, What's up Austin.

1022
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 7: Austin Austin three to sixteen?

1023
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: He wasn't. He was only on the phone for like

1024
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 2: ten minutes, all right. Lots of lots of emails coming

1025
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 2: in at web Radio at pages dot com. Kyle and

1026
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 2: Pembroke wants to give Evan his flowers. Out of boredom,

1027
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: I've decided to start rewatching your old Tuesday shows following

1028
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: the games of last season. After Week one, Evan was

1029
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: critical of the offense, even though most people were hopeful

1030
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: and got killed for it by the fans. As one

1031
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: of the fans who killed him for it. I want

1032
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 2: to apologize to Evan and give him his flowers about

1033
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: his analysis of the team. This year, I'm going to

1034
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: try to be better about listening to Evan in his analysis.

1035
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 3: Wow, I appreciate that. I do. Yeah, I apologize. Film

1036
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 3: don't lie. That's all I'll say about that.

1037
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 7: Okay, all right, my eyes don't either. They have two

1038
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 7: great drives in that game.

1039
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: Sean of Vancouver. Drake May will have to be better

1040
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: than c J. Stroud for New England to make the playoffs.

1041
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: The twenty twenty three Houston Texans had a much better

1042
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: offensive line. Stroud had time in the pocket. Drake May

1043
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: would have to be like year two Patrick Mahomes for

1044
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: the Patriots to win more than nine games.

1045
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 7: I really, I'm not going to get boged down in that.

1046
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 2: But did CJ. Stroud make the line look better? Because

1047
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: quarterbacks can do that too.

1048
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 3: I think that the notion that the twenty three Texans

1049
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 3: for this wagon that just were waiting for, you know,

1050
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 3: a quarterback that was competent is I just don't understand.

1051
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 7: I would agree they have they had a better offensive line.

1052
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 7: I a little bit. You know, Tunsil in Shaq Mason

1053
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 7: alone make it better.

1054
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 3: Tunzel makes it better. But I feel like the Patriots

1055
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 3: have guards that are on I don't.

1056
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1057
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 7: I mean the two left guards were among the lowest

1058
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 7: ranked in football last year in pass blocking, so I

1059
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 7: think that was an issue. But I'm with Evan. The

1060
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 7: guy I always throw out there is Nico Collins. Nico

1061
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 7: Collins suddenly now was Jamar Chase, and I think that's Stroud,

1062
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 7: not Nico Collins.

1063
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: El from Wisconsin. I've been listening to a bunch of

1064
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 2: talk radio, not just you, but all I can say

1065
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 2: is that I can't wait to have five Hall of

1066
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: Fame players on the old line so we can see

1067
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: May finally play. Good point. Good point, okay, because it

1068
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: does seem like some people on radio aren't going to

1069
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 2: be comfortable having May out there until we have the

1070
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys offensive line.

1071
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 7: Important to see how he performs behind less than ideal.

1072
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 3: I would just like a competent offensive line. I'm not

1073
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 3: asking them to be the nineteen nineties Dallas Cowboys. I'm

1074
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: just asking him to be competent. Can we see how

1075
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 3: it looks like for the next month before we and

1076
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 3: see if it's at least serviceable.

1077
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: When's the last time, in your opinion, the Patriots had

1078
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: a competent offensive line twenty one?

1079
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 3: They were good in twenty one, and Carlen Brisilla went

1080
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 3: with Josh to Vegas and it fell apart from there.

1081
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 3: They were a competent offensive line in twenty one. But

1082
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 3: that's all I'm looking for. No one's saying that they

1083
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 3: have to be I know that they're being sarcastic, but

1084
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,919
Speaker 3: no one's saying that it needs to be a top

1085
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 3: five offensive line in football to put Drake May in there.

1086
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 3: Can it just not be horrible? Like? Can we be

1087
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 3: middle of the pack.

1088
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Speaker 2: Tim's in Boston on the a stick of the hot line?

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00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 2: What's up? Tim?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 10: Everyone?

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Speaker 11: I was calling it in TX SOX. I'm glad you

1093
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 11: guys got to that. But looking at the you know,

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00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 11: we just drafted this guy brand in Montgomery. It was

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00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 11: supposed to be a top prospect. If you didn't get hurt.

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00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 11: He'll take a while to come back. But our out

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00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 11: o the future is looking really sacked. You have bre Durant, Ralphayela,

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00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 11: and of course Roman Anthony Christian Campbell now Montgomery. It's

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Speaker 11: really looking to jam up, and I think we can

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Speaker 11: move someone like Roman Anthony to get like a real

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00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 11: bona fide starter at the deadline.

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00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, oh you invited this. I know I agree,

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00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: but I I I actually called to talk sacks. Good Tim.

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00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: I think thanks for the Tim is saying what we're

1105
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 3: all saying that. But to me, it's like I've been

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00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 3: hearing about Red Sox prospects my whole life, Lars Anderson,

1107
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 3: Blake Swihart, like.

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00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 7: Like I've been hearing about I'll go back to Donnie Sadler.

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00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, like all of my life, I've been hearing about

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00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: how oh they have this guy in the miners.

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00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: Look, aren't there a lot of guys on the team

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00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 2: right now that we're prospects at one point for the

1113
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 2: Red Sox.

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00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, Jared Durant really and again, Jared Darina is a

1115
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 7: lot older than you know.

1116
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: Nobody was. He started in the Red Sox system and

1117
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 2: they stuck with him.

1118
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a.

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00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 7: Seventeen evers I would say, is yeah, yeah, but again,

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Speaker 7: how none of these guys under this regime.

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00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: I don't care what. It's the same farm system.

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00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 7: No, it's not.

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00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: Farm system. Every time they have a new regime.

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00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 7: They're all Dombrowski guys. So the guys that Bloom got

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00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 7: are not these guys. Okay, that's my point, right, So

1126
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 7: it's gonna run dry unless they're good at it.

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00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Mayor is a Bloom guy.

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Speaker 7: Drafted right, Mayor, Anthony and Teal are all Bloom guys,

1129
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 7: I believe. But all the guys in the major leagues

1130
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 7: were all Doombrowski.

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00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so's it's just a question of I thought I

1132
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: thought THEO that was one of his strengths. And he's

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00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 2: still associated.

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00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 7: He's not really associated with the Red Sox.

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00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 2: He is.

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00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 7: He's associated with the Fenway group, the sports group.

1137
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 2: Okay, you don't think he has any.

1138
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 7: The word is that he's looking to get into ownership,

1139
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 7: the ownership side of things. I don't think he has

1140
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 7: a lot to do with baseball, surprising.

1141
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 3: I think maybe some advisors, you know, maybe some advisory

1142
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 3: if they asked for it. I'm sure he would. But

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00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: we'll see, we'll see if these guys s pan out.

1144
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 7: But yeah, they have to identify a good prospect that

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00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 7: they're willing to do what Tim said to get to

1146
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 7: get a quality arm. That Garrett Crochet from Chicago, I

1147
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 7: think would be absolutely worth putting a package of top

1148
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 7: prospects together to get who's a young, controllable quality arm.

1149
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Speaker 2: By the way, since we're talking about baseball, I think

1150
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 2: we can bring this up. Oh wow, home run derby.

1151
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 2: Am I the only person who kind of thinks it's boring? No?

1152
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 7: I I've been out on home run derby for a

1153
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 7: while because it takes too long. I do like some

1154
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 7: of the tinkering they did with the clock last night,

1155
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 7: and I did find it. I mean, the championship was compelling.

1156
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: Right once you get to that point, yeah, right, But

1157
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 2: it takes a long time to get to that point.

1158
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 7: And they've also taken a lot of time to get

1159
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 7: to this point where they they limit the first round

1160
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 7: of three minutes. It's three minutes per battery, which that's

1161
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 7: what needs to be Yeah, but I used to do

1162
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 7: the ten out thing. It took forever.

1163
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Speaker 2: But you know, once you see like the first couple

1164
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 2: of batters, it's like all the same and you just

1165
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: wait until the year. Yeah, you just wait until the end.

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Speaker 3: I don't like the clock.

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00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 2: You don't like the clock?

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Speaker 3: No, I liked it when I was a kid ten outs.

1169
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 3: Everybody gets ten outs.

1170
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 2: It just takes kids into it.

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Speaker 5: I wonder how I don't think kids are into it anymore.

1172
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 7: They could care less didn't even though it was going

1173
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 7: on the year that Josh Hamilton hit like nine million

1174
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 7: home runs, I was that was pretty cool. And then

1175
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 7: the year that was in Fenway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, years ago, that's going. But I really think you

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Speaker 2: know what happened right after that, I came to work

1178
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Speaker 2: for friends other than like Pete Alonzo, who seems to

1179
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: be in it every year. It's turned into the dunk

1180
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: test where the big stars don't do it. You know.

1181
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, not a lot of people want to do it. Yeah,

1182
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 7: because they say they claim it effects.

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00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 2: It probably does, because you're swinging a different way, the

1184
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: different speed, the whole thing. You know.

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00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 3: Who would you want Devors to do it?

1186
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Speaker 2: I would, but I don't blame him for not doing it.

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00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I wouldn't mind it.

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Speaker 7: What's up?

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Speaker 6: Everybody, Maddie here once again throwing it back to our

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Speaker 6: Pats from the Past series. Here's a snippet from the

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Speaker 6: episode with Rodney Harrison.

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Speaker 13: It's time for another episode to Patch from the Pats podcast.

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Speaker 13: Macksmith Paul Frillow joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard,

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Speaker 13: but number one in our hearts at least.

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Speaker 7: Rodney Harrison.

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Speaker 2: Harrod, how you doing, man, man? I am doing great.

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00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: Good to be home, good to see you guys, and

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00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: looking for a great Patriots game tonight.

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Speaker 13: How's it going with NBC? Rodney, you still love it?

1225
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: I do. I'm very passionate about it.

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00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: I spent twelve years in the studio and then the

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00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: last three years I've been out at the field location

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00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: and was just really extremely excited for Devin mccordy getting

1229
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: the opportunity that he got. NBC likes Patriot guys, and

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00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: he's smart and he's doing a wonderful job. Really proud

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00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: of him.

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Speaker 13: Before we started here, I was actually thinking about this.

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00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 13: Here comes Rodney Harrison driving into Patriot Place, a drive

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00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 13: that you are familiar with for many, many times, but

1235
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 13: you're in a different partner of your life. I am

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00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 13: when you're driving in here, Rodney, what goes through your mind?

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00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: Just so many great memories, Just the opportunity to be

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00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: able to come out here and play, and Coach Bill

1239
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: and Robert Kraft giving me the opportunity to come out

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00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: here and really just be part of something special, and

1241
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: all the great players that I played with. But also,

1242
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: you know, just riding over here with Tony Dundee brought

1243
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: up some great memories of us just kicking the coach

1244
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: butt and just bonding together as a team, and just

1245
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: all those hard practices in the rain, in the snow,

1246
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: and just it gave me a greater appreciation for everything

1247
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: that we've accomplished, because it's very difficult to do.

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00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, we were joking around just before we started. My

1249
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 7: guess is that Tony's memories quite as warman fuzzy as yours.

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00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 7: You know, for September, it couldn't be a more perfect night.

1251
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 7: He was probably wondering why it's not snowing as he

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00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 7: was driving in.

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00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this man, just talking to Coach,

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00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: he has a lot of respect for the Patriots organization,

1255
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: Coach Bill, and everything that we've accomplished. And I mean

1256
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: those battles were epic. You know you're talking about going

1257
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: against Dungee and how well prepared he had his team,

1258
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, all the great players that they had. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm fifty years old when I want here, brother,

1260
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: I was, you know, twenty nine years old and now

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00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: I'm fifty. And just like you talked about different part

1262
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: with kids. I got a sun that plays for the

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00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: University of Tennessee who got their butts k yesterday. But

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01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: it's just really nice to be back, and it's nice

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01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: to see you guys still, you know, talking football.

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Speaker 13: Appreciate that. Appreciate that. So I'm gonna put you on

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Speaker 13: the spot a little bit here as you're waxing nostalgia

1268
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 13: and it's amazing what life. You know, it's amazing what

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01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 13: life is. But who would have ever thought fifteen years

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Speaker 13: ago that you and Tony Dungee would be together on

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Speaker 13: a broadcast and doing that. That's a small world, but

1272
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Speaker 13: your lives intertect like that. Do you have a favorite

1273
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 13: memory here at this stadium? Obviously you want a super

1274
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 13: Bowl in Houston? Do you want a super Bowl in Jacksonville?

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Speaker 13: And those are things that I got a believer at

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01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 13: the pinnacle of your professional football career here at you

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Speaker 13: let Rodney, is there something special that you remember that

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Speaker 13: that takes a cake of the ultimate memory that you

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Speaker 13: might have.

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Speaker 1: I think, I don't know, I don't remember the exact game,

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01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: but just when Coach Belichick, I think it was when

1282
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: it was an AFC championship game, when he gave me

1283
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: a big hug and say I'm glad we got you here.

1284
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: That was a very special moment because all I ever

1285
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: wanted to do was make him proud of me and

1286
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: let him know that the decision that he you know

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01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: that he made bringing me here, that that wasn't a

1288
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: bad decision, and he gave me an opportunity when so

1289
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: many around the league kind of frowned upon Rodney Harrison.

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Speaker 7: He believed in me.

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01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: He gave me a bunch of freedom where I can

1292
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: go out there and just play and express myself. And

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Speaker 1: I just couldn't love love a coach more than I

1294
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: got love for Coach Belichick.

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Speaker 7: You talk about that freedom that he gave you, and

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01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 7: I wanted to ask you about And it was one

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01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 7: of the two playoff games. I'm not sure if it

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01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 7: was three or oh four, but when you and Ty

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Speaker 7: sort of It must have been on three, because I

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Speaker 7: don't think he had three picks. Yeah, and you guys

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Speaker 7: kind of swapped like you were kind of up in

1302
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Speaker 7: like the corner spot, like popping guys and a loud

1303
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Speaker 7: tie to you know, just that kind of freedom. Was

1304
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 7: that something that you guys had spoken about before?

1305
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Speaker 1: And He's he never really questioned. He said, hey, you

1306
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: guys kind of do what you want to do as

1307
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: long as you're in a proper spot and you guys communicate,

1308
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: and and that's the type of freedom that he allows

1309
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 1: veteran players, guys that he trusts. We put so much

1310
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: hard work and effort in and preparations, so when we

1311
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: did something like that, I know he's on the sideline panicking,

1312
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: But you know, Ty Law and I I mean to

1313
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: be able to play with a guy like ty a

1314
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: Hall of famer, you know, and Richard Seymour and Vince

1315
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: will Forking those guys, I mean, I had some special

1316
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: players out in San Diego. But to be able to

1317
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: play with some Hall of famers and some guys like

1318
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: Willie McGinn as, Kevin Fulk, Troy Brown, I mean, these

1319
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: guys are legends. These guys are not only are they

1320
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: brilliant football players. They're very smart people and to be

1321
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 1: able to have that opportunity was just truly a blessing.

1322
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 7: And don't tell yourself short. You had the probably the

1323
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 7: biggest pick of that game when they went right down

1324
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 7: the field the first drive you had the interception in

1325
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 7: the end zone. Right, Is that how that all started? Well,

1326
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 7: stepped in front of Polly.

1327
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Speaker 1: We all try to set the tone and it's not

1328
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: about one player, It's about the team.

1329
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Speaker 7: And you know, I can't.

1330
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: I got to mention my boy Tom Brady. You know,

1331
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: just seeing Tom get the love that he got last week,

1332
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: coming back to the stadium him and just seeing how

1333
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: old of a man he was.

1334
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 2: You see how tired that dude was. He was tired,

1335
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 2: breathing hard. I thought TV twelve four.

1336
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 13: Now look at Ruddie. I mean, you're you've got a

1337
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 13: job that takes you to Where were you last Sunday?

1338
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 13: You're in New York right for the Giants Dallas game

1339
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 13: Kansas City before that. Yeah, and I don't know if

1340
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 13: you saw this. Did you see the guys on the

1341
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 13: sideline that were there. You mentioned Kevin Falk earlier, Kevin

1342
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 13: Fox in the front where all the former players were

1343
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 13: and he's chanting Brady Brady Bred. There's Dan Graham, you know,

1344
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 13: Kevin Fok, Darrell Reeves came back for the game to

1345
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 13: see that kind of close knit pet Rush Hokestein, you know,

1346
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 13: Dan copen A. See all those guys coming back to

1347
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 13: just want to appreciate Tom. That made somebody who's been

1348
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 13: here for a long time. Made me feel good because

1349
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 13: that means it's important to these people to be there.

1350
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: And it also shows you how much of an impact

1351
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: Tom has had, not only just on the guys that

1352
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: he works with, you know, as far as the offense,

1353
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: but everybody. I mean, Tom has made such an impact.

1354
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: When I came here, we used to have lunch together.

1355
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: We used to sit down and have conversations and just

1356
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: talk about life, talk about perspective. And I just see,

1357
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, Tom, twenty years later, he's you can see

1358
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: his personality. You see him smiling, laughing and being the

1359
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: genuine funny guy that we saw everybody else.

1360
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 7: Man, is this guy a robot?

1361
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: Does he ever smile? Does he have any emotion? But

1362
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: now since he's retired, he could take a deep breath.

1363
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,439
Speaker 1: He's gone through a lot and now you know, he's

1364
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: just living his best life.

1365
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 7: What has it been like working with with Devin? You

1366
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 7: know you have mentioned that you have all the former

1367
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 7: Patriots coming back. What's it like been a teammate with

1368
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 7: him now?

1369
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: Just a very humble young man, a guy that has

1370
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: such a beautiful future. I mean, he was a heck

1371
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: of a football player, great free safety. I think he

1372
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: was the best free safety that played under Belichick in

1373
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: the Patriots uniform. A guy that it matters to him

1374
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: and you can tell with his preparation the conversations that

1375
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: we've had. I try to offer him a little bit

1376
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:03,439
Speaker 1: of advice, but just a family man, great husband. I'm

1377
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: just extremely proud.

1378
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 4: You know.

1379
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: I never thought that NBC would give another Patriots safety

1380
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: and opportunity. So I felt really proud of that because

1381
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: I take pride in my job. I take pride in

1382
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: trying to do the right thing, being consistent. It's been

1383
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: fifteen years and people, look, oh, what happened to You're

1384
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: not in the studio. Well, God had something different from me.

1385
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: I went from the studio to being on the field

1386
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: where I can interact with players, coaches, general managers and

1387
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: just being so close to the game and Devon's doing

1388
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: such a wonderful job in the studio. Come on, man,

1389
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: two Patriots doing Sunday night football.

1390
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 7: Maybe maybe NBC knew what a tandem that would have been.

1391
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 7: Oh my god, with the free safety like dev and

1392
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 7: then the old school right.

1393
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 1: I definitely wanted his contract, but oh yeah.

1394
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's not a big, simple size Rodney and your student.

1395
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 13: You're so you're watching everything. How have they done? And

1396
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 13: you don't replace Devin mccordy. You don't replace Rodney having

1397
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 13: So how what have you see that they're trying to

1398
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 13: do because he was such an integral part of the communication,

1399
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 13: making sure that everybody's on the right spot and everything

1400
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 13: like that. What have you seen as they're trying to.

1401
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: Replace, Well, I think the players that they get. Obviously,

1402
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: you can't just learn one position. You have to be

1403
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: able to learn multiple positions. And if you can't communicate,

1404
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: you can't play with the Patriots. I don't care if

1405
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: you're a corner, because at times, even if you're a corner.

1406
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones, he's playing safety sometimes. You know, Kyle Duggart,

1407
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: he's playing deep middle part of the field, but he's

1408
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: also played linebacker. But he's also playing strong safety in

1409
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: the box. So you have to be able to know

1410
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: and be able to communicate multiple positions. And when I

1411
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: come off the field, I have to be able to say, okay, guys,

1412
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: this is what happened at the linebacker position, but also

1413
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: be able to switch my mindset to this is what

1414
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: happened at the nickel spot. So these guys are smart.

1415
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: They all communicate and they know that they have to

1416
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: be efficient at every position that they play.

1417
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 14: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh no,

1418
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 14: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

1419
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 14: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx. Where

1420
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 14: now mean's next for residential delivery only?

1421
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 2: And now great moments in history. This is at Saint

1422
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 2: Thomas the Apostle School in New Jersey. Ronald Robinson, he

1423
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 2: came back to what happens was we would always have

1424
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 2: There was always two groups. One group played keep away

1425
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: and then the other group would played football. Probably one

1426
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 2: group was played football. So one time I was in

1427
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 2: the group playing keep away and Ronald Robinson in the

1428
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 2: football said, oh, you guys are pussy's playing that game.

1429
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 2: I guess we're just going to say everything so then

1430
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 2: so then a couple of weeks ago, it was opposite.

1431
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 2: We were the ones playing football and they were playing

1432
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 2: keep away and I said to them, oh, who's who's

1433
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 2: the pussy now? So Ronald Robinson, who was tall at

1434
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 2: that time, but Finn came, you know, you know, we're like,

1435
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 2: you know, chest to chest. He's like, say that again.

1436
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, who's the pussy now? And he and he

1437
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 2: punched me in the jaw, you know. And I remember,

1438
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 2: I can remember this like it was yesterday. I remember thinking,

1439
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 2: you know what, that didn't really hurt that much, and

1440
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 2: if so, he was just because he said it twice, okay.

1441
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 2: And I was thinking to myself, if I attacked him

1442
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 2: right now, and I kept myself from doing it, and

1443
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have. I did the same thing to Richie Campanella.

1444
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 2: I dare him to say something, and I socked him

1445
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 2: in the stomach and doubled him over. That's another great

1446
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 2: moment from the tough playgrounds of Catholic School.

1447
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 7: That might have been your best sequence, Oh, Ronald Robinson

1448
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:35,560
Speaker 7: and Richie Campanella.

1449
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 2: Oh, I remember there was a lot of alliteration. There

1450
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 2: was Vincent Valentino, there was Michael Messidi. There was Dwight.

1451
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 2: I forget his name.

1452
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 7: I like Irish your time.

1453
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 2: It was a Catholic school.

1454
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 7: Anyway.

1455
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Speaker 2: the New England Patriots. Who writes this copy? Bobby, Yeah,

1465
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Speaker 2: it's really hard.

1466
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Speaker 3: I agree, it's difficult copy.

1467
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Speaker 2: everything you need.

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Speaker 3: It's very clear that the people that write the copy

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Speaker 3: don't know what it's like to read the copyright. We

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Speaker 3: could do better, all right.

1473
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Speaker 2: What were we talking about before Brendon Ay, Well, we

1474
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 2: have a couple of things, not necessarily breaking news, but

1475
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 2: the Patriots issued a press release while we were talking

1476
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 2: about personnel change changes in the personnel department. I don't

1477
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 2: know if Evan you want to read those.

1478
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean there's a lot in this email

1479
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 3: or in this we got in an email, but it's

1480
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 3: also on Patriots dot com, so you can read the

1481
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 3: whole thing. But I think the two biggest highlights to

1482
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 3: me are well three. I guess Macro is still here,

1483
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:24,560
Speaker 3: so that's interesting. Director of player Personnel still he's the

1484
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 3: number two man in the front office to Elliot wolf

1485
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 3: Patrick Stewart, who we've worked with a couple of times

1486
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 3: on some things on Patriots dot Com at the Senior

1487
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 3: Bowl Combine Star Trek. He's been he's been promoted to

1488
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 3: director of Pro Personnel, so he's now on the pro

1489
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 3: side of things. And Alonzo high Smith, who the Patriots

1490
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 3: what's the word hired from the University of Miami. He

1491
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 3: is now the senior personnel executive. So basically, if the

1492
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 3: Patriots front office was a ticket we'd have Elliott Wolfe, Macro,

1493
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 3: Alonzo high Smith, Patrick Stewart would be the hierarchy there. Okay,

1494
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 3: So that and Cameron Williams obviously the director of College Cutting,

1495
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 3: so that would be the the top of the ticket.

1496
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: If you will, So a little bit of indication of

1497
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 2: how things have changed here. We wouldn't find that stuff

1498
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 2: out until November in the past.

1499
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 3: Or ever or ever.

1500
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 2: Sometimes. Yeah, So okay, personnel department taking shape or it's

1501
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 2: taking shape, they're just announcing it. So good stuff.

1502
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. The only other name I would mention,

1503
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 3: and I'm sorry I might, Butcher his last name is

1504
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 3: Marshall Ohm. I think that is how you say it.

1505
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 3: And he his new title is a director of Football Strategy,

1506
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 3: So that to me sounds a lot like director of

1507
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 3: football Research, which is what Ernie Adams's old title.

1508
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 2: Was there for a while. Marshal, Yeah, so I feel

1509
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 2: like he yeah, he might thought it was wem maybe

1510
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 2: it right? I always thought was I wonder if he

1511
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 2: is a when we say strategy, we might be talking

1512
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 2: about ernilytics, the data part of it.

1513
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1514
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. He's a younger guy, bright kid. I

1515
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 2: met him a couple of times. Yes, all right, so

1516
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 2: that's that and then the other part that we want

1517
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 2: to touch on, Yes, Brandon Ayuk has officially asked to

1518
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 2: be traded.

1519
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, Mike Garrifoo ten minutes ago, forty nine Ers

1520
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 3: All Pro wide receiver Brandon Ayuk has officially requested a

1521
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 3: trade after an offseason of unsuccessful attempts to reach an

1522
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 3: extension with San Francisco. So Brandon Nyuk not surprising. Sounds

1523
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 3: like he wants to go to the Commanders and play

1524
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 3: with his buddy Jaden Daniels. But I'm sure the forty

1525
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 3: nine ers are going to trade him.

1526
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 2: Whoever, that's going to be a hefty You're gonna have

1527
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 2: to give up quite a bit because the forty nine

1528
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 2: ers aren't just gonna let him go, and you're gonna

1529
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 2: have to pay him quite a bit because that's why

1530
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 2: he wants to go, correct. So that's that's a tough one.

1531
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 2: I love for the Patriots to be involved. But do

1532
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 2: you think that the Patriots could say, hey, listen, we'll

1533
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 2: take Debo. Now you can pay Ayuk.

1534
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 7: Maybe I'm not as interested in.

1535
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 2: That, You're not as interesting.

1536
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 7: No, I think I would take you.

1537
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 2: I think Uk has a he's younger, and he has

1538
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 2: a bigger ceiling at this point in his career.

1539
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 7: Samuel already has the contract and I think he's on

1540
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 7: the way down.

1541
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. So but I love I love Deebo seeing.

1542
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 7: I know you do. You have to You've had a

1543
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 7: crush on I got a.

1544
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 2: Thing for Deebo Samuel. I don't know, he's.

1545
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 7: Almost as much as Jaron Duran.

1546
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 2: What's wrong with Sharon Duran?

1547
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 7: Nothing? Nothing wrong with Tembo Samuel.

1548
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 2: Every time I mentioned his name, you're like, oh, you know,

1549
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 2: he's older than you're thinking.

1550
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 7: Because you people just like think he's a kid. He's

1551
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 7: like twenty eight.

1552
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 3: It's not that he's a kid in baseball.

1553
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's young. He's young at heart. He's young at heart,

1554
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 2: you know, drive around in that command, you know, Art.

1555
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 3: I feel the same way about Jason.

1556
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 7: What do we think of Brandon Ayuk in terms of

1557
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 7: wanting to go to Washington? And I know why, but

1558
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 7: I think less of that.

1559
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1560
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 3: Right, So he played at Arizona State with Jaden Daniels

1561
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 3: just to make sure everybody's on the same page with that,

1562
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 3: and they're obviously friends.

1563
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 2: So but is this something that people have surmised or

1564
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 2: has he actually said I'd love to follow?

1565
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 7: Oh no.

1566
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 3: He literally tweeted a screenshot of a practice rep of

1567
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels's in Washington's OTAs that Daniels must have given

1568
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 3: him access to somehow. So it's very clear where Brandon

1569
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,919
Speaker 3: Ayyuk would like to play football next year in Washington

1570
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:37,959
Speaker 3: to play with Daniels.

1571
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:40,839
Speaker 2: Okay, so we'll see what happens.

1572
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:46,440
Speaker 7: The deadline for franchised guys to sign extensions was yesterday

1573
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 7: and T Higgins did not sign one. So we'll throw

1574
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 7: another wide receiver into that mix, yep, because he's probably

1575
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 7: not going to be back with Cincinnati next year. Now

1576
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 7: he'll play on the franchise tag. He signed it, yep,

1577
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 7: but probably another guy that could be had a way

1578
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 7: to make a big deal.

1579
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,839
Speaker 2: T Higgins did sign it. Yeah, yeah, said the deadline

1580
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 2: passed and he had.

1581
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 7: For him to sign an extension.

1582
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,879
Speaker 2: Okay, so now he have to play under.

1583
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:17,600
Speaker 7: One year tag, which I think makes them a valuable commodity.

1584
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what they do with

1585
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 3: him next off season because those types of receivers don't

1586
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 3: usually hit unrestricted free agency. You don't usually just let

1587
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 3: those guys walk for nothing, so do they if they

1588
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 3: tag him again and then tag and trade at that point,

1589
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 3: you would at least recoup something if you're the Cincinnati

1590
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 3: Bengals in a trade.

1591
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 2: So if you're the New England Patriots. So whether it's

1592
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 2: Ayuk or T. Higgins or any other big freak guy

1593
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 2: that all of a sudden becomes available, is your first

1594
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 2: round pick in twenty twenty five in play or you're like, no,

1595
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 2: I'm not trading that.

1596
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 7: I have to see Drake May. Yeah, if Drake May,

1597
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 7: does you know some reasonable fact simily of C. J. Stroud,

1598
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:03,560
Speaker 7: I'd give up a first round pick for one of

1599
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 7: those guys.

1600
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 2: Right because we're ready. Now, we're ready.

1601
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 7: He's showing you that he's a good players. He needs

1602
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 7: talent around him, but he's a really good player. He's

1603
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:13,799
Speaker 7: going to lift those guys.

1604
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 2: And and just remember, folks, when you give up a

1605
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 2: first round pick, you're not really giving up first round pick.

1606
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 2: Sometimes you get the other teams, right.

1607
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 3: And a swap and a swap, Well that wouldn't be

1608
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 3: this case.

1609
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 7: But no, yeah, you know, I mean, Cincinnati's not going

1610
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 7: to give you T Higgins and a first round pick

1611
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 7: for your first No, I mean unless Mike Brown fell

1612
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 7: and hit his head or something.

1613
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I just feel like the Paul's point about.

1614
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 2: Forty nine ers are probably going to have a low

1615
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 2: first round pick, right, But you're not getting that back.

1616
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 7: But they're not going to give him how you and

1617
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 7: a first round pick.

1618
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 2: What if we give him Judah in a first round pick.

1619
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 7: Well, that's different. Yeah, I still don't think they would

1620
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 7: do it, but at least now you're given Yeah, Commendvale.

1621
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 2: Just trying to figure out a way to retain a

1622
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 2: first round pick because I think we want offensive line help, Like,

1623
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 2: you know, assuming it's Ayuk. Okay, now we got our receiver,

1624
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 2: we're just fill in with twos and threes, but we

1625
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 2: still want to make our own line better. It would

1626
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 2: be great to have a first round pick. Yeah, No,

1627
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be top five or I get

1628
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 2: what you're saying.

1629
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. I feel like the to Paul's point, though,

1630
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 3: if Drake may is good, then your first round pick

1631
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 3: is no longer a top five pick.

1632
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 2: Right.

1633
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 3: It feels like a lot to give up a top

1634
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 3: five pick for Brandon Nayuk and then pay him one hundred.

1635
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 2: Million dollars exactly.

1636
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 3: That is a lot, just in terms of resources allocated

1637
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 3: to one asset. With brand as good as he is,

1638
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 3: and he's a top ten receiver in the league at

1639
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 3: this point, I think what separates a guy like Brandon

1640
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 3: Nyuk from like Deebo is that he gets open one

1641
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 3: on one in an island, right, Like, he can just

1642
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 3: win on a route. He doesn't have to be schemed open.

1643
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 3: He doesn't have to be formationed open.

1644
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you a question about that, because

1645
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 2: you're a big All twenty two guy sometimes you know.

1646
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 2: So it's although you know, on Twitter and whatever, there's

1647
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,799
Speaker 2: all these videos of Ayuk and how he just shakes

1648
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 2: guys off.

1649
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:06,799
Speaker 3: Excellent route runner.

1650
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but to me that seems to be freelance. That's

1651
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 2: just him saying I'm gonna break your ankles. It doesn't

1652
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 2: look like a route to me. Well, it depends. How

1653
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 2: hard is it for a quarterback to be able to see,

1654
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 2: Oh he just he just left this guy in the dust.

1655
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 2: If it's not part of the route tree.

1656
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 3: Well, it depends. I mean he's got to release package.

1657
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 3: That's excellent.

1658
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 2: Right.

1659
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 3: So he's very good at the line of scrimmage of

1660
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 3: getting off press coverage, which is why you don't need

1661
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 3: to scheme him open, because you can just line him

1662
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 3: up at the X and just let him go to

1663
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 3: work and he's gonna get open on his own. But

1664
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 3: he has landmarks and routes, like if he's running a post,

1665
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,959
Speaker 3: he can use whatever move at the line of scrimmage

1666
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 3: to get open, you know, to get off the line

1667
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 3: and get away from contact. But he's still got to

1668
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 3: get back to them.

1669
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 2: Okay, so there's an end point, yes that as long

1670
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 2: as you get there, I'm good with I'm the quarterback

1671
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:55,679
Speaker 2: talking now. As long as you get there, I don't

1672
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 2: care how you do it, right, I'm just gonna in

1673
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 2: three seconds, I'm gonna look at that end point and

1674
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 2: you better be there pretty much, okay.

1675
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, And the timing is probably not great for

1676
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 7: the trades in the first place, unless you do what

1677
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 7: Evan talked about, like these guys somehow get franchised, you know,

1678
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 7: moving forward, and t Higgins's case, that to me would

1679
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 7: be highly unlikely because clearly I think Cincinnati's decided they're

1680
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 7: going to let him go. I don't know how you

1681
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 7: do it with San Francisco. He's already requesting a trade.

1682
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 7: He's going to be probably disgruntled as long as he's

1683
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 7: still on the team if he doesn't get an extension.

1684
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 7: Maybe this is just one last ditch effort for him

1685
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 7: to say you're not going to give me an extension,

1686
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:43,759
Speaker 7: just get rid of me, trade me now.

1687
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 3: Right, So he still has his fifth year option, so

1688
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 3: he's actually under team control with San Francisco for two

1689
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,679
Speaker 3: more years. So he's under his fourth years this year,

1690
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 3: and then twenty twenty five is his fifth year option year,

1691
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 3: so he's actually a Niner for two more years now,

1692
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 3: and then the franchise tax, so they kind of have almost.

1693
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 2: And he's looking at that and saying, I don't want

1694
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 2: to wait, so you.

1695
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 7: Could make the trade next year. I didn't. I wasn't

1696
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 7: thinking of the fifty year option. But Evan's right, you

1697
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 7: could do that next year in the off season. You're

1698
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 7: not going to trade a first round pick now, because

1699
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,679
Speaker 7: now you don't have that knowledge that he's worth trading

1700
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 7: a first round pick for. Now You're like, you're doing

1701
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 7: the whole Evment thing where you're potentially trading a top

1702
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 7: five pick without knowing if your quarterback is any good. Right,

1703
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 7: And now I have this receiver and what do I

1704
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 7: do with him? And I have no real high pick

1705
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,759
Speaker 7: in the first round to add town see stuff.

1706
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 2: But again, that just hammers home the point that guys

1707
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 2: become available in whatever form of fashion. There's always somebody

1708
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 2: that becomes available. So don't think that rosters are set

1709
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 2: in July.

1710
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 3: Things happened historically, the year for Brandon and I to

1711
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 3: get dealt would be next offseason, going into his fifth

1712
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 3: year off because that way they're it just makes more

1713
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 3: sense in terms of the timing of the trade. But

1714
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 3: he's been wanting out for a while now.

1715
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I.

1716
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 5: Really wonder what's kind of going on over there.

1717
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 4: For me, I don't know, why would you want to

1718
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 4: leave San Francisco to go to Washington other Right.

1719
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 2: It's always about money, But what does that say? And

1720
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:21,560
Speaker 2: that's why to your point?

1721
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think I feel like there's some drama

1722
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 5: going on. But with the Niners and there, well, that's

1723
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 5: the thing. You know, a lot of guys at Christian

1724
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 5: McCaffrey's wedding, we.

1725
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 2: Talked about it. We talked about it last week. With

1726
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,759
Speaker 2: the Patriots, the question isn't why they broke up, it's how.

1727
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 2: The question is how did they keep it together for

1728
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 2: twenty years?

1729
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 5: Right?

1730
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 2: And when you have you know, not that the forty

1731
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 2: nine ers are one a super Bowl, but when you're

1732
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 2: a good thing like that and you have a lot

1733
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 2: of people making a lot of money. The other guys

1734
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,759
Speaker 2: like where's mine? And it's hard to keep people patient

1735
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 2: and down when you have a lot of good players.

1736
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 2: That's what a lot of them talked about. You know,

1737
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 2: you start winning those Super Bowls, you start getting success,

1738
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 2: and everybody from you know, the quarterback down to the

1739
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: executive assistance are where's mine. You know, that's that's the

1740
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 2: hard part of running a winning organization.

1741
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:20,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, I wonder if they. I wonder if he's asking

1742
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 7: for a ridiculous amount of money, and I wonder if

1743
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 7: maybe they just don't feel like he's on board. Yeah,

1744
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 7: you know, like we'll give it to you. Like Deebo

1745
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 7: clearly was willing to do everything for the team. Now

1746
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 7: he has since sort of pulled back because I think

1747
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 7: he recognized the wear and terror was causing. Maybe they

1748
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 7: don't think of Ayuk the same way. And I know

1749
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 7: it's unfair from three thousand miles away to say, like

1750
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 7: he wants to go to Washington just because he's friends

1751
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,719
Speaker 7: with Jayden Daniels, Like that's odd to me that someone

1752
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 7: would want to do that. He can get paid anywhere, Yeah,

1753
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 7: why does he want to just go play with his friend?

1754
01:22:58,280 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 7: Is it really that important to him, or he just

1755
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 7: wanted to be with his friend.

1756
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 2: Is that a bad thing?

1757
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 4: And if you're motivated by money and hanging out with

1758
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 4: your friend as opposed to this team that you're on,

1759
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 4: you're on the cusp of well a lot.

1760
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 7: I would take him. I mean, I think the guy's

1761
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 7: a traffic player.

1762
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 2: A lot of times, like guys that are in ayuk

1763
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 2: situation where now things have gone sour with my existing team.

1764
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's terrible to negotiate. They've insulted me

1765
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 2: a lot of times. As much as they've been asking

1766
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 2: for the existing team, they end up taking a little

1767
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 2: less just to get the hell out of there and

1768
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,759
Speaker 2: make a point, you know, like like I'll go play

1769
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 2: for the Jets and I don't have to make this.

1770
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 2: I don't have to get the same amount of money

1771
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 2: I was asking for you because you drove me up

1772
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 2: actually by insulting me.

1773
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 7: I just wonder if, like, because to me on the service,

1774
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,679
Speaker 7: it doesn't make any sense that San Francisco wouldn't pay him,

1775
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 7: Like he's a really good player, he's been productive, he's

1776
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 7: gotten to the point where most of these guys get

1777
01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:01,440
Speaker 7: an extension. He's you know, you still have the quarterback

1778
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 7: making nothing. Why wouldn't you do it? You know you

1779
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 7: don't have a quarterback that you know you're gonna have

1780
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 7: to pay. I mean, Brock Perdy, if he has another

1781
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 7: year or two like he had, is gonna get paid.

1782
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 7: But I don't think he's gonna get paid like Mahomes

1783
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 7: and Allen and those guys. So it's not like paying

1784
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 7: Ayuk is going to prevent you from being able to

1785
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 7: do your quarterback in two years.

1786
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 2: No.

1787
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 3: I feel like not paying Ayuk is surrounded by Kyle

1788
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 3: Shanahan probably thinking I can take Ricky Piersoll in the

1789
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 3: first round. I can make them and I'm gonna make

1790
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 3: them just as good as Brandon Nayuk. Which this is

1791
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 3: slippery slope, as we know here that sometimes the guys

1792
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 3: just know, but maybe I feel like they feel as

1793
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 3: though it's it's a system. You know, it's an offense.

1794
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 3: It's a system, and I'm I'm plugging play. I'm gonna

1795
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 3: take Piersol. I think they took him thirtieth or thirty first,

1796
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 3: whatever their pick was in the first round this year,

1797
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 3: which sort of was the writing on the wall that somebody,

1798
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 3: whether it was Debo Brendon nayuk. Someone was going to

1799
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 3: be the man out there in San Francisco, and it

1800
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 3: seems like instead of paying Brandon a you thirty million

1801
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 3: dollars a year, we're just going to draft your replacement

1802
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 3: and trade you.

1803
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phone against the McCaffrey, Nate's

1804
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 2: and Pennsylvania. What's up? NT? Oh?

1805
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, Hey, what up you crew?

1806
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 2: How you doing good?

1807
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 10: I hate to derail your football conversation with some offseason talk,

1808
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 10: but I got a quick story and a.

1809
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 2: Question for you. All right, Okay, So I had.

1810
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 10: A Patriots Unfiltered themed dream the other day, which I

1811
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 10: think is weird to begin with because I've obviously never

1812
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 10: met any of you, but it happened. I don't know,

1813
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 10: but here's how it goes. So you guys are doing

1814
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 10: the show in like a conference room of some sort,

1815
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 10: and you're you're having typical kind of off season banter,

1816
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 10: having a good time, and and Jonathan Kraft walks in

1817
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 10: the room, and for whatever reason, everybody kind of like

1818
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,560
Speaker 10: freezes up and gets kind of awkward and uncomfortable. I

1819
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 10: don't know if there was just like him breathing down

1820
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 10: your next whatever. But the funniest thing is Fred kind

1821
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 10: of without skipping a beat, says, hey, Patriots fans, if

1822
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,560
Speaker 10: you want to see Toyota's best deals, including it's not

1823
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 10: seen on TV. Kind of just eased everything and then

1824
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 10: I woke up, So I don't know what that was

1825
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:08,759
Speaker 10: all about. I just thought it was funny.

1826
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 4: Were you listening to the show before bed?

1827
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 10: I don't know. I don't know what it was all about.

1828
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 7: We can't even get a free car and a drum.

1829
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 2: We're part of their psyche though, she goes.

1830
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 5: See a sleep psychologist. See what this means.

1831
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 10: But it brings me my question. I visited the pro

1832
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 10: Shop earlier this year and was admiring all the new

1833
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 10: construction and that craft group building, And I'm kind of

1834
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 10: curious if you're allowed to share, like what the office

1835
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 10: setup is like for you guys, because I remember Alex

1836
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 10: mentioned last week talking about hard knocks. If it came

1837
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 10: to the Patriots, she'd actually get to see how like

1838
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 10: offices are set up in the football area, like how

1839
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 10: often do you interact with upper management, or like how

1840
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 10: is your building set up? If you don't mind sharing,

1841
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 10: thanks guys, Yeah.

1842
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 2: No problem, thanks for calling. Yeah, So, I don't know

1843
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,640
Speaker 2: if anyone that seemed Gillette Stadium. But if you're on

1844
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 2: the east side of the stadium, there's like a thing

1845
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 2: that juts out from the bowl and that's where we work.

1846
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 2: And it's well, the actual office space is only two floors.

1847
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 2: Everything else is. Then you get to the concourse. Then

1848
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 2: you get to the club suites, two floors of suites,

1849
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 2: and then the third level of the upper deck. So

1850
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 2: the actual offices are only two floors. We're on the

1851
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 2: second floor and football is on the first floor. And

1852
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 2: the way it's been up to this point is never

1853
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 2: the two shall meet. I mean, you never ever used

1854
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 2: to see coaches or players walking around our floor, and

1855
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 2: of course we never ever walked around on the first floor.

1856
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 2: It was a complete separation of church and state. Now recently,

1857
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 2: every once in a while you see Gerad Mayo walking

1858
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 2: through or some of the other coaches, which I think

1859
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 2: is great, but still we don't go downstairs to football

1860
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 2: and check that out.

1861
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 7: I went down to talk to Gerard, but I was, yeah,

1862
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 7: I was, unless you, unless you're therefore, you'd never go

1863
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 7: down on your own. And I can tell you, in

1864
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 7: all honesty, twenty whatever years, I never saw a bill

1865
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 7: up in our area ever. Now down where I work now,

1866
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 7: which is closer to the like the KSP TV studio,

1867
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,639
Speaker 7: I would see Bill every week because he would come

1868
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 7: in and shoot his illustrator segments for All Access and

1869
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 7: things like that. But up in admin, I never saw

1870
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:30,639
Speaker 7: a Bill once. Yeah, once in a while you would

1871
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 7: see an assistant or two and mostly coaching assistants that

1872
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 7: would come up and they would they would solicit help

1873
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,719
Speaker 7: sometimes with different kind of visual things that they needed.

1874
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 7: Michelle muse that one of our art directors used to

1875
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 7: help them a lot back in the day. And there

1876
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 7: was the one day that Josh, for whatever reason, Josh

1877
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 7: McDaniels just happened to be up walking around and he

1878
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 7: stumbled into my office and Mike came around the corner.

1879
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:58,679
Speaker 7: It's like it was like when Mike had first started working.

1880
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 7: He thought that happened all the time. But even that

1881
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 7: was Jos in your office, Like, oh, I haven't seen

1882
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:04,759
Speaker 7: him in five years.

1883
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 2: Right, But that was just like a few years ago,

1884
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 2: Like you.

1885
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 7: Know, that was when Mike just started. Yeah, so it

1886
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:10,839
Speaker 7: was probably like twenty one.

1887
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 2: Twenty one, five years, four years ago, three years, But

1888
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,600
Speaker 2: like we've been here for a long time and it

1889
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 2: just never not in this stadium. Never ever. Yeah. Now,

1890
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:25,520
Speaker 2: the owner, just for everyone's information, has his own elevator,

1891
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 2: and that elevator goes down to coaching and goes all

1892
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 2: the way up to the owner's suite on the blue

1893
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 2: level and it opens up. It can open up in

1894
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 2: the club and so it's kind of like a private

1895
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 2: passageway for him to get up and down the stadium.

1896
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 2: And it's his elevator. So when now Belichick would come

1897
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 2: up to the owner's office, you know, when Robert called

1898
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 2: for him, and that's the elevator he takes, so we

1899
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 2: would never see him. He didn't, you know, take that elevator.

1900
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,879
Speaker 2: You don't have to walk through you know, the squad steerage,

1901
01:29:56,080 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 2: steerage that where we are. But like I said, it's

1902
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 2: it's a complete separation of church and state. It's not

1903
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 2: like the ESPN commercials where we're in the cafeteria eating

1904
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 2: with the players. That doesn't happen.

1905
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 5: Some teams not here though, Yeah.

1906
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:12,640
Speaker 2: Well I was, well though some teams. But you know,

1907
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 2: some teams are just football. So it's football PR and content,

1908
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 2: and here it's football PR, content, community relations, food and

1909
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 2: beverage marketing. I mean, we're like, because we own our

1910
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:30,240
Speaker 2: stadium and operate it, which a lot of teams don't,

1911
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 2: you know, and they have a separate facility where the

1912
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 2: team works. We're here.

1913
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:39,679
Speaker 3: It's just one building, having your own elevator that goes

1914
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 3: up to your suite to watch the games.

1915
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 2: A is baller, so it's a flex.

1916
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 4: So I was RKK was really generous to invite a

1917
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 4: family for a preseason game a couple years ago. This

1918
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:52,879
Speaker 4: is my first season too, so I'm covering that story

1919
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 4: in RKK suite. I need to get back down to

1920
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 4: the field. So someone told me I could use the

1921
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 4: elevator to go back to the admin level and I'm like, okay, yeah,

1922
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 4: I know where that comes out.

1923
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 5: Cool.

1924
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 4: Surely this will go down and bring me to the

1925
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 4: field too, right, that was my thought in my head.

1926
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 4: So I get into mister Craff's elevator, hit field or whatever. Yeah,

1927
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 4: the field ground level, go all the way down.

1928
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 5: It opens up.

1929
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 4: The first thing I see is a hallway and one

1930
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 4: door says head coach, the other one says offensive coordinator.

1931
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 5: And I have never hit a button, so fast, Aboart

1932
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 5: take me back to the suite. It was so scary,

1933
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 5: so scary.

1934
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, now I would think that if that happened, you

1935
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 2: wouldn't get shot. We're in the past. Yeah, someone would

1936
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 2: be like.

1937
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 5: You look lost. Yeah, but it wouldn't be.

1938
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 3: I've never been in the trophy room either. I'd like

1939
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 3: to change. Oh yeah, oh really, yeah, I've never been.

1940
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 2: I think every employee should get to go in there

1941
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 2: at least once. We do.

1942
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's like a surprise and they're just come.

1943
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 2: That's another cool thing in the I call it the

1944
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,719
Speaker 2: West Wing. But where ownership is, there's like a big

1945
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 2: lobby where his the receptionist is and in there there's

1946
01:31:56,920 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 2: these huge wood doors that open up like sliding doors,

1947
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 2: not like exactly like sliding doors, and it opens into

1948
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 2: this room that's beautifully lit. The first thing you see

1949
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 2: are the six trophies along the side. You see all

1950
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 2: the AFC championship trophies, the old the hunt ones on

1951
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 2: the side and the newer silver ones in the other.

1952
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 2: Then there's a display for all the rings. Yeah, it's

1953
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 2: like it's a it's a beautiful room and you know,

1954
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 2: certain people get to see that when they visit. I

1955
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 2: think on game day he actually has a reception in there. Uh,

1956
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 2: pre game day for the muckety MUCKs on that list.

1957
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 2: So I think I think that would be good for

1958
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 2: every employee to be able to have, you know, one

1959
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 2: day where they get to have a photo shooting there

1960
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 2: and we could have our photographer take people's pictures.

1961
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:51,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to stand in there and you know,

1962
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 3: yeah take it in.

1963
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 2: That's not a bad thing. I mean, we want our

1964
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 2: employees to want to do that. That's that's cool. So

1965
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 2: all right, that's your guided tour of our offices.

1966
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 3: It seems like a TikTok or something we can do.

1967
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 2: But I can't emphasize enough the fact that it's not

1968
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:15,520
Speaker 2: just us and you know, media relations and community relations,

1969
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:18,600
Speaker 2: but it's food and beverage, which we run food and

1970
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:21,640
Speaker 2: beverage for not just the games, but three hundred and

1971
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 2: sixty five you know worth of events throughout the year,

1972
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 2: everything from birthdays to proms to big trade events. We

1973
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 2: have concerts coming in. So, I mean, this is a.

1974
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:36,600
Speaker 5: Working you mentioned we have a whole construction department.

1975
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 2: Construction department, legal, human resources there.

1976
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 7: It this. Yeah, you said that it's not like an

1977
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 7: ESPN commercial, but in a lot of ways it kind

1978
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 7: of is. It's just not specifically with the football personnel.

1979
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:52,520
Speaker 5: We're not like in the break room with the mascot.

1980
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 7: Right, But there's a lot of stuff that like all

1981
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 7: of a sudden, you just be working. You look up

1982
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,680
Speaker 7: and you're like, is that Zach Bryan Just.

1983
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, we're just a show and one of the

1984
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 4: biggest artists in the world right now is doing a

1985
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 4: sound check casually over there, right.

1986
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 7: So that can happen in like just in the middle

1987
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 7: of a normal work day. You never know what's around. Yeah,

1988
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:14,759
Speaker 7: we just don't generally have that like, oh, did Gered

1989
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:17,679
Speaker 7: Mayo and Drake may just walk by? No, that doesn't

1990
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 7: typically happen, So I know it will happen for you

1991
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 7: guys now that you're downstairs.

1992
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 2: Again just to show and I think for some people

1993
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 2: this is interesting stuff, so I'll keep talking about it.

1994
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 2: But there's the service level, which is like the tunnel,

1995
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 2: So that's you know, where all the work stuff is.

1996
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,920
Speaker 2: You know, stuff's piled up, and when you see the

1997
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 2: players come on game day for arrivals, they're walking through

1998
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,799
Speaker 2: that tunnel and it's the one place in the stadium

1999
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:44,640
Speaker 2: that isn't like pretty, it's just a tunnel. You know,

2000
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 2: golf carts are coming up and down it. The buses

2001
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 2: from the visiting team come in there. You know, it's

2002
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 2: it's really a down and dirty place. And when the

2003
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:58,640
Speaker 2: players walk out to practice, they use the tunnel and

2004
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 2: they go out to the practice field behind the stadium.

2005
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 2: In the past, like if you're down there just doing

2006
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 2: your job and it was time for the players to

2007
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 2: go to security would come out and I mean literally

2008
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 2: clear the like you couldn't even be in the tunnel

2009
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 2: when you would think that the Queen of England was

2010
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 2: coming through.

2011
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 7: You try to make yourself scarce. If the players are coming.

2012
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 2: To God forbid you say hello to somebody, I mean,

2013
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 2: you get yelled at. I think that's changing a little bit.

2014
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 3: Well on the road, you get it, and we're all going

2015
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:29,560
Speaker 3: up to our rooms or something like that. And I

2016
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:31,720
Speaker 3: remember one time I don't say what the players were,

2017
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,960
Speaker 3: but the elevator opened and all these players were getting

2018
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 3: into the elevator and one of them looks at me

2019
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 3: and is like, are you coming? And I was like,

2020
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 3: I'll take the next and he was like, what do

2021
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,879
Speaker 3: you mean? Like it was like so they didn't understand

2022
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 3: they're they were just completely flabbergast.

2023
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 7: Like even in Germany, I remember like Joe I wanted

2024
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 7: to buy his drinks and we're like, I can't. Yeah, right,

2025
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 7: because I didn't know who was watching. Yeah, yeah, I'm

2026
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 7: sure Alex and Tamara had a drink.

2027
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 5: With No one bought me a drink by my own now, But.

2028
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:02,719
Speaker 3: We've been brought up independent woman.

2029
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 2: Since we were kids.

2030
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:05,959
Speaker 5: Drink much cheap dat I bought.

2031
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 7: You a drink? Bear you did, We didn't nobody.

2032
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 2: We've been brought up since we were kids that you

2033
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 2: were not to befriend them. You are not to talk

2034
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 2: to them.

2035
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 8: That night.

2036
01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 2: When I when I first started Credit Might in ninety five,

2037
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 2: Parcels was the head coach and we had the buses.

2038
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 2: When you're going you could sit on any bus you

2039
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 2: wanted and you know, sit with the players and then

2040
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:29,600
Speaker 2: tell the.

2041
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 7: Story about your writer who where he tried to sit

2042
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 7: well with Parcels. You don't have to give his name.

2043
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 2: Well, no, but if if people don't want me to,

2044
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 2: you know, just send an email safe Fred shot stop

2045
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 2: but no. Bledsoe's one of the people in Bledsoe's wedding party.

2046
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 2: Bledsoe had just gotten married, So Jonathan Kraft comes back

2047
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 2: for the wedding and says, hey, we're got, we got

2048
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 2: to hire this kid for the year. He's Bledsoe's friend.

2049
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:55,599
Speaker 2: He's in his wedding and so you're got you're gonna

2050
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 2: have to hire him for the year. So okay, so

2051
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 2: do And his thing is, you know, I'm a friend

2052
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 2: of bled cell I'm gonna be a friend of Parcels.

2053
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna be his best friend. I'm gonna

2054
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 2: make myself and his friend. So he would try little

2055
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 2: things in press conferences and Parcels would just shoot him down.

2056
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 2: So one time we're on the bus and Parcels always

2057
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:20,040
Speaker 2: sits on the front seat on the right hand side.

2058
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 2: Nobody next to him, just that's his seat. So we're

2059
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 2: already on the bus, sitting behind there, and this kid

2060
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:30,799
Speaker 2: says to me, watch this, I'm gonna go sit with Parcels.

2061
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I don't think that's a good idea.

2062
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 2: He goes, it'll be fine. So he gets up there

2063
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:37,680
Speaker 2: and he sits on the seat where Parcels is going

2064
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 2: to be. Parcels gets on the bus and he says

2065
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 2: the kid, he goes, no, no. So what he does

2066
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 2: is he gets up and moves to the seat next

2067
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,720
Speaker 2: to him, parcelsos, get f out of here and that

2068
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 2: was it. From that point on, now you had designated buses.

2069
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:58,719
Speaker 2: So that's how Bus four started for the Patriots because

2070
01:37:58,720 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 2: of this.

2071
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:00,639
Speaker 7: Guy Bus five.

2072
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 2: But I think all the teams do it. All the

2073
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 2: teams do it now. But up to that point, we

2074
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 2: could sit on any bus, and he screwed it for everybody.

2075
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 2: I actually not that I care. It doesn't matter.

2076
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 3: I actually would prefer not to sit.

2077
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I couldn't agree more.

2078
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, it probably smells, but.

2079
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 7: They were much more comfortable too. You're not to worry

2080
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 7: about it.

2081
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 2: There were some funny There was some funny things that

2082
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 2: went on in those buses that I you know, like

2083
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 2: just joking around that you wouldn't take part in it,

2084
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 2: but you would just laugh along, you know.

2085
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:28,479
Speaker 7: There was my first trip back the first preseason game.

2086
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 7: We went back and uh we used to go to

2087
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 7: the logan at the time, and I got off and

2088
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,640
Speaker 7: I just was like, you know, I didn't really know

2089
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 7: all the procedures and stuff. I actually went in the

2090
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 7: tunnel because a lot of people would just go like

2091
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 7: they would go in the airport and get picked up

2092
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 7: or whatever. I went in and it didn't realize I had,

2093
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 7: so I came back. So now pretty much everybody's on

2094
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 7: the buses, and Frank Mendays is there. He goes, Paul,

2095
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 7: just get on a bus, and I ended up getting

2096
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:58,759
Speaker 7: on like bus two. Is that with the players?

2097
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, you really do feel like.

2098
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 7: Fred and Brian are on some other butt on bus

2099
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 7: four at the time, and I remember Willie Cohens. Remember

2100
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 7: Willie Cohens, I remember the name, like a backup defensive end.

2101
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,400
Speaker 7: It's like an undrafted rookie. And I'm just like sitting

2102
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 7: next to him. I got his whole life story, the

2103
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 7: like please just get me out of here, please please

2104
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 7: get me on it.

2105
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 2: But I remember you get on the bus and they'd

2106
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 2: be Curtis Martin like just burying in a Bible, like

2107
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 2: all that talk about him that was true, like he

2108
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 2: he was devoted and uh, you know, so you see

2109
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:34,879
Speaker 2: little things like that that now we don't see anymore,

2110
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 2: you know. But every once in a while a player

2111
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:40,640
Speaker 2: will get on our bus and like walk on and

2112
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 2: see then they realize this isn't anybody I know and

2113
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 2: then gets except for Cadaro Patterson. Remember I didn't travel

2114
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 2: with Okay, so he sat on our bus on purpose.

2115
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:56,679
Speaker 2: He didn't want to sit with his teammates in somebody.

2116
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 2: I forget who what it was, but I was right

2117
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 2: there and hearing this, and he said, why do you

2118
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:04,799
Speaker 2: sit on our bus? He's like, I don't really like football,

2119
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 2: that's what he said. Now, of course, since then he's

2120
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 2: become he's still in the league and producing. But it

2121
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:13,680
Speaker 2: was like so weird. Maybe it was a put on,

2122
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 2: but yeah, on game day.

2123
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 3: Some of the players will come on our bus because

2124
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:20,600
Speaker 3: we're the usually take the last bus to leave the

2125
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 3: hotel to go over to the stadium. So right, that's

2126
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 3: your last call. So some players get on there. And

2127
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 3: I always take a little note of which players are, Yeah,

2128
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:32,720
Speaker 3: the ones that are speaking on the bus, you know,

2129
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 3: as we're about to pull out.

2130
01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 2: It's like, and we've had some notable coaches we'll get

2131
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 2: on that last bus too in the past. Yeah, but

2132
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 2: that's a little insight. I hope you found it interesting.

2133
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:47,600
Speaker 2: Probably not. Let's go back to the phones. Mark's in Connecticut.

2134
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:53,640
Speaker 2: What's up, Mark? Mark? Was that was that interesting at all? Oh? Hi?

2135
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 7: Mark?

2136
01:40:54,439 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 2: It was okay? Good? Now the floor is yours?

2137
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:03,639
Speaker 15: I take here.

2138
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:13,960
Speaker 2: In my eyes the left tackle, Yes, I don't know

2139
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 2: if that's him.

2140
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:17,959
Speaker 15: Tackle position has to be the second most important position,

2141
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 15: and I don't understand why we're not at drafting the position.

2142
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 7: It's a good second guess for sure. I would have

2143
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 7: thought that, either through free agency or with a high

2144
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:35,600
Speaker 7: draft pick, well, there would be somebody targeted for a

2145
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 7: left tackle.

2146
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 2: And the only thing I can say this kid that

2147
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:42,639
Speaker 2: they drafted played right tackle. Cane Wallas played right tackle

2148
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 2: on college. But the guy that was in front of

2149
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 2: him was the fourth overall pick, right.

2150
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 7: Hevan you want to take this one?

2151
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well not fourth overall. I think it was

2152
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 3: like nine or ten.

2153
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, but do you want to take that?

2154
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 2: But maybe this guy can play left tackle.

2155
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:00,679
Speaker 7: So thirty two NFL teams are looking for left tackles,

2156
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:04,400
Speaker 7: Penn State had two of them. Yeah, Like, does that

2157
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 7: realistic to you? What do you mean there's not enough

2158
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 7: left tackles to fill the NFL rosters, but Penn State

2159
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 7: had two that were that good?

2160
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 2: Maybe it is.

2161
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 15: Do you agree though, that it's like the second most

2162
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:18,080
Speaker 15: important position on the.

2163
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:19,080
Speaker 10: On the field.

2164
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 7: No, No, I don't, But it's an important position, So

2165
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:26,439
Speaker 7: we don't have to get involved in a semantic argument,

2166
01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 7: But yeah, it's it's strange to me that they didn't

2167
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 7: address it, and I agree the way Evan talks about

2168
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:34,200
Speaker 7: it all the time. The solution was to take two

2169
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 7: right tackles and see if one of them can play

2170
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:37,680
Speaker 7: the left side. One of them is a veteran in

2171
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:39,639
Speaker 7: a CORPS four and the other one is Kayden Wallace.

2172
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:42,080
Speaker 7: We have no idea if either one of them can

2173
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 7: to play at all, let alone left hack.

2174
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 2: We don't. We don't. But will you be shocked if

2175
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:51,080
Speaker 2: Kayden Wallace is a competent left tackle? Yes, you will

2176
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:52,599
Speaker 2: be left tackled.

2177
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:53,959
Speaker 3: Yes, right tackled.

2178
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:57,799
Speaker 7: No, A third round guy who never played left tackle

2179
01:42:57,880 --> 01:42:58,679
Speaker 7: is going to be a competent.

2180
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 2: Why didn't he play left hack? Because he wasn't good enough,

2181
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:05,040
Speaker 2: He wasn't better than Fasano right, but he was great, well,

2182
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 2: supposedly greatt How did you go in the third round

2183
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:11,679
Speaker 2: because he never because he never played You could argue,

2184
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 2: I could take that argument if he was a projected

2185
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:17,760
Speaker 2: left tackle coming out and he got taken in like

2186
01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 2: early second round.

2187
01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, you could sell me on this yeap. By a

2188
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 7: lot of accounts, he was kind of a reach in

2189
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:24,679
Speaker 7: the third round.

2190
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:26,960
Speaker 2: Well, all I know is when it comes to left tackle,

2191
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 2: there's something there that we don't know yet. You know,

2192
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:32,479
Speaker 2: Like he was a really good right tackle.

2193
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 7: He was okay, otherwise he wouldn't have been a third

2194
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:35,760
Speaker 7: round pick.

2195
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:37,679
Speaker 2: Well, right tackles don't always go that high.

2196
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 3: He was really good as last year. It took him

2197
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:43,360
Speaker 3: a while to break out.

2198
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:46,360
Speaker 2: Bastian Vomo was really good as last year. Didn't even

2199
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:47,599
Speaker 2: get invited to the combine.

2200
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:50,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, Bashian Vahmer missed this whole last year with back surgery.

2201
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:53,679
Speaker 2: Okay, it was a good right tackle, but he's you know, and.

2202
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:54,599
Speaker 7: He went in a second round.

2203
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that there's like there's a possibility.

2204
01:43:57,280 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 3: Because everybody thought he was good but healthy, there is

2205
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 3: a possibility. There's always a possibility. But that being the

2206
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 3: plan of Chucks a Corps for a career right tackle

2207
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 3: in the NFL who fell out of favor in Pittsburghen

2208
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:14,200
Speaker 3: was benched last year in Pittsburgh, then cut by the Steelers,

2209
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,000
Speaker 3: is now signed to the Patriots to be the starting

2210
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 3: left tackle for the Patriots in Week one to break

2211
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:23,200
Speaker 3: it in for a rookie who played right tackle in

2212
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 3: college and is now going to try to play left

2213
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:27,519
Speaker 3: tackle in the pros is a fair second guess that

2214
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 3: that's how they address it.

2215
01:44:28,439 --> 01:44:32,760
Speaker 7: Now my bible, anything's possible. Of course it could work.

2216
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, in my just to be fair, I didn't really

2217
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 3: feel like it was possible for them to attack all

2218
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:41,240
Speaker 3: of their needs in one offseason. They had too many holes.

2219
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:44,920
Speaker 3: So to realistically go into a draft, and yes, maybe

2220
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:47,839
Speaker 3: they could have paid a Jonah Williams in free agency

2221
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 3: was a little bit better than a Corps four, and

2222
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 3: that would have helped us a little bit more. But

2223
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:58,400
Speaker 3: to realistically get a franchise quarterback, a number one receiver,

2224
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:01,439
Speaker 3: and a starting left tack all in the same draft

2225
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 3: was not going to happen. So if Caden Wallace is

2226
01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:07,280
Speaker 3: a starting right tackle, then great, that's a good third

2227
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:10,800
Speaker 3: round pick. Sure, if he's a swing tackle, then that's

2228
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:12,760
Speaker 3: a fine third round picks. Not a great third round pick,

2229
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:14,640
Speaker 3: but it's an okay third round pick. But if he

2230
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 3: can start anywhere on the line, then he was a

2231
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:17,840
Speaker 3: good pick.

2232
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 7: See. I agree with Evan, I think it was unrealistic

2233
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 7: to expect you to do that in a draft. I

2234
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 7: don't think it was unrealistic to expect you to address

2235
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 7: those spots in the offseason. Yeah, period, And I would

2236
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:32,479
Speaker 7: just take the word franchise out, like, I don't think

2237
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:34,840
Speaker 7: it's realistic for anybody to say we're going to get

2238
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 7: a franchise quarterback, franchise wide receiver, and a franchise left

2239
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:41,960
Speaker 7: tackle all at once. Right, that's getting pretty fortunate with

2240
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 7: your personnel they traded down. Maybe you could swing that,

2241
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:47,439
Speaker 7: but no. But like it didn't have to be in

2242
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 7: the draft. I think Evan's solution that he just put

2243
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 7: out Jonah Williams would make me feel a lot better

2244
01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 7: about left tackle. Tyron Smith would make me feel a

2245
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:58,639
Speaker 7: lot better at left tackle, then a guy who never

2246
01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 7: played left tackle. Right. That's all yep, And yep, it's

2247
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 7: not like they got the wide receiver.

2248
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 2: Either, yep. Teddy from Lowell says, do you think of

2249
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 2: Chicago as a potential trade partner for Judon? Chicago has

2250
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 2: been aggressive in trading future picks. They need a pass

2251
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 2: rusher behind Montes Sweat as they have no depth, and

2252
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 2: they made a similar move last year. If not Chicago,

2253
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 2: who else do you think may be interested in for

2254
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:27,759
Speaker 2: what draft capital in return?

2255
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:33,680
Speaker 3: Interested in Judon? Yeah, I feel like a lot of

2256
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:35,760
Speaker 3: contenders would probably be interested in the guy like.

2257
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:38,879
Speaker 2: Judon, Yeah, e lad pass rushers are Yeah.

2258
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 7: I think that if Chicago is any good, then that

2259
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 7: would be something to keep an eye on. But I

2260
01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 7: would think that you could get more from a contender.

2261
01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:50,280
Speaker 7: You might be able to get a higher round pick.

2262
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:52,400
Speaker 7: Now that might not turn you know, if you got

2263
01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 7: to say, let's just say, for arguments, if you got

2264
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:56,720
Speaker 7: a second rounder from Kansas City as opposed to a

2265
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 7: third rounder from Chicago, that might be the difference of

2266
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:03,040
Speaker 7: only like ten or fifteen picks. So it might not

2267
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:05,760
Speaker 7: be that much. But if Chicago was good, He's right.

2268
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 7: They made some aggressive deals last year at the deadline,

2269
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 7: and we're willing to give up some draft picks to

2270
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 7: do it. But they also had a ton of draft picks.

2271
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:15,599
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, he hasn't signed, He hasn't signed yet. What's

2272
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:16,760
Speaker 2: his deal? What's he looking for?

2273
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:20,040
Speaker 3: Probably all the guaranteed in the signing bonus.

2274
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 7: And there's also some I saw Florio write about it.

2275
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:28,959
Speaker 7: Saw something yesterday on Twitter that the Bears are claiming

2276
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:32,800
Speaker 7: that I forget which one, but one of them says

2277
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:35,719
Speaker 7: they're dealing with the player, and I think Caleb Williams

2278
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:38,680
Speaker 7: themself says he's not dealing with it. He's not handling it,

2279
01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 7: and the Bears think that they're dealing with him as

2280
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 7: opposed to an agent or a representative of some sort

2281
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:47,600
Speaker 7: of a father. Yeah, I mean, who knows. Yeah, So

2282
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:49,800
Speaker 7: I don't know. It's some of that stuff that people

2283
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 7: were concerned about with Caleb Williams. But evidently on the

2284
01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 7: field it's been a whole different story. He's been great.

2285
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 3: Brian Jjim McCarthy's in the same boat also, unsigned Is that.

2286
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:03,280
Speaker 2: Right that kid? Brian and Saint Louis? What do you

2287
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:06,720
Speaker 2: see as the Patriots identity and philosophy under the new leadership?

2288
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:09,599
Speaker 2: Under the previous regime felt like they were in almost

2289
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:12,440
Speaker 2: every single game, no matter what the score, game conditions,

2290
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:15,800
Speaker 2: or opponent. They were cyborgs who could morph from week

2291
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:19,439
Speaker 2: to week even within the game. Still, the short passing game,

2292
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:22,439
Speaker 2: solid offensive line play, a few turners by the offense

2293
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 2: in an opportunistic defense help the two dynasty stack wins

2294
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:29,400
Speaker 2: with the players that Mayo and Wolf have acquired. Do

2295
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 2: we see an emerging identity in philosophy? The only component

2296
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 2: that stands out so far that I've heard people talk

2297
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 2: about is the deep ball capability of Drake May So

2298
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 2: how long does it take a new regime to establish

2299
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:47,720
Speaker 2: the identity? Do the Patriots have that identity that he's

2300
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 2: talking about in two thousand when Belichick took over. No, No,

2301
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:53,679
Speaker 2: it took him a while to usider.

2302
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 7: I wouldn't even say they had it in two thousand

2303
01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:55,920
Speaker 7: and one, right.

2304
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 2: It takes a while to establish that identity, you know,

2305
01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:00,960
Speaker 2: So TBD.

2306
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:05,120
Speaker 3: Your identity, you feel like, changes depending on your personet.

2307
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 3: Like if you have a quarterback that can you be

2308
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 3: Tom Brady and throw the ball over the place, their.

2309
01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:12,880
Speaker 7: Identity changed, that's your system, right. So the custom is

2310
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 7: we're going to have the best player that has ever

2311
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 7: played play quarterback for twenty years, and that in turn

2312
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 7: is going to allow a defense to be opportunistic and

2313
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:23,040
Speaker 7: keep us in games and watch the other team make So.

2314
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:25,760
Speaker 2: What do you want the Patriots identity to be? If

2315
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:28,479
Speaker 2: you could choose an identity the greatest quarterback?

2316
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I think you know, get away from

2317
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 7: like the self inflicted wounds, like the penalties have been

2318
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:39,719
Speaker 7: a problem in the last couple of years. Just the mistakes,

2319
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:42,640
Speaker 7: the avoidable mistakes that we never really saw for a

2320
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:45,799
Speaker 7: long time, we saw too much of the last few years.

2321
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 7: So just be a smarter team, more disciplined.

2322
01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 4: A disciplined team that gets better every game and clearly

2323
01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:55,080
Speaker 4: is out there, really scrappy, working hard, one that's fun

2324
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:55,479
Speaker 4: to watch.

2325
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:59,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to see Drake may be a top

2326
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 2: ten quarterback, but have a supporting cast of like, really

2327
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:06,439
Speaker 2: guys with a lot of swagger. So both on offense

2328
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 2: and defense, there's a lot of guys with swagger and

2329
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 2: they don't mind talking out and all that stuff, and

2330
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 2: Drake may sort of like the cool, calm, really good

2331
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:22,639
Speaker 2: quarterback who lets all his players, you know, do the talking. Yeah.

2332
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 3: I would just like to get back to being a

2333
01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:25,479
Speaker 3: team that can outscore people.

2334
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:28,360
Speaker 7: Oh, you want to win football games, just know, but

2335
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:31,759
Speaker 7: in a certain way. Yeah, let's not rely on seventeen thirteen.

2336
01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:33,840
Speaker 7: See if we can win thirty seven to thirty one,

2337
01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:36,479
Speaker 7: or just be able to have the ability to you

2338
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:38,840
Speaker 7: don't want to win that way every week, to score

2339
01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:42,720
Speaker 7: touchdowns and have the ability to be fun. Like Glex said, I.

2340
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:47,040
Speaker 4: Can get behind a team that maybe isn't winning eight

2341
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:49,360
Speaker 4: games every year, but they're really fun and you see,

2342
01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 4: you can buy into what they're doing and what they're building.

2343
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:56,680
Speaker 7: The ninety three Patriots. In December, you could see what

2344
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:59,719
Speaker 7: they were doing, Like, there's not a lot of Patriots

2345
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 7: fans that had a five and eleven team that went

2346
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:04,960
Speaker 7: ten and six and ninety four. That was like, oh,

2347
01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:08,320
Speaker 7: I didn't see that coming. Everybody saw that coming. Everybody

2348
01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:11,760
Speaker 7: felt the way that they progressed Drew's rookie year with

2349
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 7: Parcels was the like sort of the foundation for future

2350
01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:18,639
Speaker 7: success and that's why we're it's hope. It's hope.

2351
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 4: There was hope implemented, and we didn't have it last season.

2352
01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:23,920
Speaker 4: We didn't have it the season before that.

2353
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 5: Our hope last year was that next year it would

2354
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:27,599
Speaker 5: be better, and they regressed.

2355
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:32,120
Speaker 2: Yep. Brian, who doesn't say where he's from, he says,

2356
01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 2: I remember you saying that you came from the NFL,

2357
01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:38,280
Speaker 2: and we're familiar with the Around the NFL podcast crew.

2358
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:42,960
Speaker 2: Their podcast was unceremoniously ended. Do you have any thoughts

2359
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:45,759
Speaker 2: of the end of that show? Have you been listening

2360
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:48,160
Speaker 2: to the new one? Why are we talking about around

2361
01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:50,360
Speaker 2: the NFL? Who's on that podcast?

2362
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:52,960
Speaker 3: I guess he might be talking about me because I

2363
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 3: worked at NFL.

2364
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:57,200
Speaker 2: Oh Okay Evan, Yes, oh Is, and he does say

2365
01:51:57,200 --> 01:51:58,960
Speaker 2: that in the subject he says question for Evan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so I was. I'm a big fan of

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01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:05,759
Speaker 3: all those guys, and it's too bad they they basically

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01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 3: went on a hiatus with their podcast around the NFL,

2369
01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:10,080
Speaker 3: which I think is one of the best, or was

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01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 3: one of the best, Greg Rosenthal, Dan Hanzus, Mark Sessler,

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01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:19,600
Speaker 3: Chris Westling before he passed away, and they went on

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01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:22,960
Speaker 3: a high like a summer hiatus, and then the NFL

2373
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:25,840
Speaker 3: Network or NFL Media just decided to not come back

2374
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 3: at all. So their podcasts without a farewell podcast or

2375
01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:32,479
Speaker 3: send off or anything, after eleven years on the air,

2376
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 3: left gone. And Rosenthal, Greg who's a big Patriots fan,

2377
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 3: Actually he's started a new podcast with NFL Network. I

2378
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:47,000
Speaker 3: think it's called NFL Daily. I haven't listened to it yet,

2379
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 3: but at n was a really good show and it's

2380
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:51,559
Speaker 3: a bummer that they did that to them. They they

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01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:53,439
Speaker 3: should have been handled differently.

2382
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 2: Dorian from University of Maryland rightsin. He's got little off season.

2383
01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:03,479
Speaker 2: He's from Baltimore. How do you guys feel about a

2384
01:53:03,479 --> 01:53:07,519
Speaker 2: potential flag football Olympics event in the future. What do

2385
01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:09,360
Speaker 2: you think about flag football in the Olympics.

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01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:09,840
Speaker 7: I'm out.

2387
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 2: I am too, No, thank you.

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01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:14,639
Speaker 7: We don't find flag football fun at all for anybody

2389
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:15,839
Speaker 7: over the age of say fourteen.

2390
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:19,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know the league is really pushing flag football

2391
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:24,040
Speaker 2: because you know, young kids can play it. There's no tackle,

2392
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:26,400
Speaker 2: girls can play it. It's a good way to get

2393
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:30,880
Speaker 2: people introduced to the game of football. I disagree. It's

2394
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:34,240
Speaker 2: a good way to introduce people to the football, the

2395
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:37,200
Speaker 2: shape of the football, but other than that, it's not football.

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01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 7: My kids played from when they were I think it

2397
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 7: was like six to probably twelve or thirteen, and it

2398
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:46,719
Speaker 7: was great, Like they really had a lot of fun playing.

2399
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:48,320
Speaker 7: I had a lot of fun watching them play. But

2400
01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 7: it's not football. No, it's not a substitute for football.

2401
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 7: I know that there is like a ground swell now

2402
01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:57,840
Speaker 7: of being a varsity sport in high school, which I

2403
01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:01,880
Speaker 7: just don't understand. Yeah, it's not I don't think it's

2404
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:05,439
Speaker 7: four grown ups. Yeah, you know, and I understand that

2405
01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 7: you could say, like, well, in high school, you're not

2406
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 7: necessarily grown up. You're close enough. Yeah, you're close enough

2407
01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:13,800
Speaker 7: to being an adult at sixteen, seventeen years old. I

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01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:16,400
Speaker 7: don't I don't get it. I don't. I mean other

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01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:21,400
Speaker 7: than as a possible way to lay the foundation for

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01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:25,479
Speaker 7: eliminating football altogether as we know it, which I think

2411
01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 7: you'd be naive if you didn't think that was a possibility. No,

2412
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 7: there's no way, but maybe no way in our lifetimes ready,

2413
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 7: but it's coming.

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01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 2: I mean that all that matters in flag football is

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01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:39,080
Speaker 2: the receiver in the quarterback. That's it.

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01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:42,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's to me, it's very boring. Yeah, when it's

2417
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:45,280
Speaker 7: played like by older people that are really skilled, right,

2418
01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 7: it's like it's boring.

2419
01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:48,320
Speaker 2: It looks like ultimate frisbee to me. For some reason.

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01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:48,800
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 7: I just like part of the allure when their kids

2422
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:53,640
Speaker 7: is like you never know, like the kids wide open,

2423
01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:55,520
Speaker 7: if he's going to catch it or not, or if

2424
01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 7: the throw is going to be there, and then sometimes

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01:54:58,240 --> 01:54:59,760
Speaker 7: you just have it. There's like four people there to

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01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 7: get flag, and it's really hard to get the flag

2427
01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:04,920
Speaker 7: when you're like seven. Yeah, to actually pull a flag

2428
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:07,560
Speaker 7: like that's fun to watch them run around. It's like

2429
01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:10,640
Speaker 7: it's yeah, you know, it's like t ball, Like you

2430
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:12,200
Speaker 7: never know what's going to happen in t ball when

2431
01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:14,240
Speaker 7: the ball gets hit. Yeah, you know, nine guys end

2432
01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:17,720
Speaker 7: up on the ball on a pile. Yeah, you see

2433
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:19,800
Speaker 7: the clips on all the time, good stuff, and you're

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01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:21,400
Speaker 7: not going to get good, wholesome fun.

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01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 3: If you could sell flag football in the Olympics that

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01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 3: NFL players are actually going to participate, but want that,

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01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:31,640
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want that.

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01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:32,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2439
01:55:32,360 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 3: I mean it's the same as basketball or hockey.

2440
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:35,920
Speaker 2: But at least you're playing the sport.

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01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:38,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, if you were going to sell me on an

2442
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:42,240
Speaker 7: Olympic team of real football, no, obviously that's unrealistic, but

2443
01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:43,240
Speaker 7: that I would watch.

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01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 4: Well, it's like the NHL. NHL players weren't like historically

2445
01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 4: going to the Olympics. It was all your best junior players.

2446
01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:51,200
Speaker 2: Right.

2447
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:55,320
Speaker 7: But but NHL and in NBA now the pros play and.

2448
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but I you know, and I think the

2449
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:01,120
Speaker 2: thinking is from the lead league is that, you know,

2450
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:03,360
Speaker 2: this is a good way to introduce them to football

2451
01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:06,560
Speaker 2: and eventually they'll play football. I don't see that direct line.

2452
01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:08,720
Speaker 5: And what are the other countries going to look? Yeah,

2453
01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 5: well that's like other countries they get riled up about

2454
01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:12,600
Speaker 5: flag football.

2455
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 3: There's some like World Football.

2456
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 2: That's why it's in the Olympics now is because the

2457
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 2: us LA team lost the two games, but they the

2458
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:25,000
Speaker 2: player is no offense to the players that participated.

2459
01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:27,440
Speaker 3: The players that participated in that for the United States

2460
01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 3: are not I don't even like there probably are z

2461
01:56:31,120 --> 01:56:32,480
Speaker 3: tier of players.

2462
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:34,760
Speaker 7: It's my soccer argument, right, that's why we're not good

2463
01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:35,280
Speaker 7: in men's.

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01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:37,720
Speaker 3: Soccer because obviously you're not getting the NFL guys are

2465
01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:39,800
Speaker 3: not playing in that, but not even the D one

2466
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:43,360
Speaker 3: college guys are playing in that. So you're you're unless

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01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:47,440
Speaker 3: you're gonna get a talent pool of legitimate players, then

2468
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:48,280
Speaker 3: it's just not.

2469
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:51,600
Speaker 2: Worth speaking of soccer, you see what happened in uh

2470
01:56:52,040 --> 01:56:53,800
Speaker 2: my hard Rock Stadium.

2471
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:55,920
Speaker 3: With the COPA, Like what happened though?

2472
01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:58,720
Speaker 2: They just got over and run overrun and people didn't

2473
01:56:58,720 --> 01:57:01,080
Speaker 2: want to wait to get in or the people without

2474
01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:02,240
Speaker 2: tickets fans.

2475
01:57:01,960 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 5: Went purposely without tickets to score storm.

2476
01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:07,440
Speaker 2: So how do they organize? Was it a Facebook group

2477
01:57:07,480 --> 01:57:11,480
Speaker 2: that they got together, so let's show up without tickets soccer? Sorry,

2478
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:13,640
Speaker 2: I know, but it doesn't happen a lot.

2479
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:14,960
Speaker 3: It happens.

2480
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 5: We have like that external in Paris.

2481
01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:20,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was like a thirty for thirty documentary about

2482
01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 4: one of the English Premier League teams years ago.

2483
01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:26,360
Speaker 5: A lot of people died getting trampled. I forget what

2484
01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:27,440
Speaker 5: it's called a really.

2485
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 7: Good crackdown that we like that and we can we

2486
01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:33,040
Speaker 7: do pto days when the World Cup is here.

2487
01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:34,600
Speaker 2: You want to watch the World Cup.

2488
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:36,240
Speaker 7: I just don't want to be here and to have

2489
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 7: that happen.

2490
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:39,560
Speaker 5: Oh you'd be calling the other way.

2491
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, like Rex Jack, I don't charge.

2492
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:46,080
Speaker 2: I think, well, we.

2493
01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:49,200
Speaker 4: Have like that external big like the Ticketmaster gate. You

2494
01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:51,440
Speaker 4: have to go through that checkpoint to then get to

2495
01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:55,040
Speaker 4: the actual doors. I don't remember Miami having that from

2496
01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:55,400
Speaker 4: when we.

2497
01:57:55,560 --> 01:57:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, there wasn't an outer perimeter that they had to

2498
01:57:57,640 --> 01:57:58,080
Speaker 2: go through.

2499
01:57:58,440 --> 01:57:59,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if people are in the front of the

2500
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:02,400
Speaker 4: line just getting pushed, and do we put.

2501
01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:04,840
Speaker 7: All that in for for World Cup purposes?

2502
01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 2: No? No, I just think that it makes sense. I

2503
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:11,840
Speaker 2: think they really wanted to activate that whole plaza, but

2504
01:58:11,880 --> 01:58:14,520
Speaker 2: they wanted to make it a safe zone so people

2505
01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 2: get screened before they get to the plaza.

2506
01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:21,160
Speaker 3: Those soccer fans are different, man, like they are.

2507
01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 5: That was a wild video.

2508
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:25,640
Speaker 4: That was crazy, and it's like, where do you think

2509
01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:27,800
Speaker 4: you're going to go? Do you have like a blueprint

2510
01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:29,640
Speaker 4: of the HVAC system in the stadium?

2511
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:31,640
Speaker 3: Like how are you You'll figure it out what's.

2512
01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:32,320
Speaker 5: Then goal.

2513
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:37,600
Speaker 4: In an areakroom and you're like, this isn't and Argentina

2514
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:40,280
Speaker 4: won anyway, So poor messy.

2515
01:58:40,840 --> 01:58:41,800
Speaker 2: Did you see him crying?

2516
01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:42,200
Speaker 3: No?

2517
01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:44,400
Speaker 4: I feel so bad for the most famous person on

2518
01:58:44,440 --> 01:58:46,280
Speaker 4: the planet.

2519
01:58:46,640 --> 01:58:50,960
Speaker 2: Also, Dorian says, if you tuned into USA basketball, are

2520
01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:54,240
Speaker 2: you guys under the same impression that Embiid doesn't fit

2521
01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:57,320
Speaker 2: the team? A D is much better for this team

2522
01:58:57,360 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 2: as a starter.

2523
01:58:58,840 --> 01:59:01,680
Speaker 3: Yes, has nothing to do with Embiid.

2524
01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:02,760
Speaker 7: I don't think how come.

2525
01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:04,480
Speaker 2: They only beat Australia by seven.

2526
01:59:04,280 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 3: Points their foot off the gas.

2527
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:08,600
Speaker 7: They were up eighteen when I was at the Good

2528
01:59:08,600 --> 01:59:09,960
Speaker 7: Food store and all of a sudden I saw there

2529
01:59:09,960 --> 01:59:10,600
Speaker 7: one by six.

2530
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:14,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, they Embiid is an awesome player. Like I don't

2531
01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:16,240
Speaker 3: think anybody is disputing that.

2532
01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:17,240
Speaker 7: I don't think he's healthy.

2533
01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:20,520
Speaker 3: But they the way that they want to play around

2534
01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:24,560
Speaker 3: him right now is they he's somebody that dominates the

2535
01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:26,240
Speaker 3: ball when he's in the game on offense, and the

2536
01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:28,520
Speaker 3: whole thing has to run through him to make it

2537
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:29,800
Speaker 3: productive with him out there.

2538
01:59:29,960 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 4: That's why Philly's had so many issues building that team

2539
01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:33,040
Speaker 4: around him.

2540
01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:35,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you if you built a second unit

2541
01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:37,800
Speaker 3: around him with him coming off the bench. That was

2542
01:59:37,840 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 3: like him and Haliburton and Booker and just shooters around

2543
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:41,880
Speaker 3: him and stuff like that.

2544
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:45,120
Speaker 7: I think that in Philadelphia and he's as fast as

2545
01:59:45,160 --> 01:59:46,760
Speaker 7: any player in that league. That guy flies.

2546
01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:51,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but when you have Curry, Aunt, Tatum, Lebron, Embiid,

2547
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:54,680
Speaker 3: Embiid is the one guy that's not He's kind of

2548
01:59:54,720 --> 01:59:56,200
Speaker 3: sticking out a little bit like a Soret thump.

2549
01:59:56,200 --> 01:59:58,960
Speaker 7: He's just that was surprised. That was like how we

2550
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:02,240
Speaker 7: got pushed around in a lot like he doesn't. I

2551
02:00:02,280 --> 02:00:05,080
Speaker 7: think he can be a dog at times and not

2552
02:00:05,120 --> 02:00:06,880
Speaker 7: always in great shape. I don't think he's in good

2553
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:10,640
Speaker 7: shape right now, but he's not you know, someone that

2554
02:00:10,760 --> 02:00:13,080
Speaker 7: just gets bullied around in the paint and that seems

2555
02:00:13,120 --> 02:00:14,200
Speaker 7: like that's what Australia did.

2556
02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:16,520
Speaker 3: I wonder if that will change once we get all right.

2557
02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:19,840
Speaker 2: That's it for this addition of Patriots Unfiltered. I want

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