WEBVTT - The Japanese Anarchists Part 1 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:08.080 Hello, welcome to it could happen here the podcast that 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:11.640 is my podcast. Now. I'm your host, Margaret Kiljoy, and 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:15.319 with me is the Webby Award winning Sophie Lichterman as 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:19.600 our producer, as well as the actual hosts of the show, 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:24.160 who go without mentioning because I don't see any reason 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:29.520 to include them. Can that just be the intro to 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:34.160 every episode from now? This is better than our all 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:40.480 of our regular intros. Oh I loved that. Um yeah, 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:44.040 so what are we talking about today? Also on podcast, 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:48.640 Garrison Davis and Christopher Wong. Hello, yes, so so today 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:52.640 we are we are talking about the sort of long 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:56.440 and incredibly tragic history of Japanese anarchism. Well, okay, actually 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:00.160 Japanese anarchism before World War two, because after we were 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:03.160 two is an entirely different story. And as much as 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.399 I love people in construction helmets just like beating the 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:08.839 ship out of cops with large sticks, Uh, that story 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.240 is extremely complicated if you want to hear read, Uh, 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.680 talk more about that story a little bit. Uh. The 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.080 third part of my Nobasikikishi episode has a lot of 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:21.000 people in construction help us with sticks. But you know 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:25.040 this is you know Okay said that the history of 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:28.919 anarchism generally is the history of tragedy, but even by 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:31.920 by anarchist standards, the the history of Japanese anarchism is 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.320 just an absolute welter of heartbreak and loss. Um. Out 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:36.840 of all of the people that we're going to talk 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.160 about today, exactly one of the non Russian anarchist is 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:41.560 going to live to see world the end of World 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:44.959 War two, and he's Korean. Every single other person is 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:47.919 either going to be executed by the state, assassinated, killed themselves, 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:52.400 drink themselves to death. So this is uh, this is 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.200 this is an ex bleak story in a lot of ways. 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.760 Good to have one of those optimistic episodes every once 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:01.080 in a while. Yeah, you know, I mean I think 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:07.680 the gets thrown down a well. Uh well, okay, it's 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:11.119 it's unclear whether anyone got thrown down away. I'm sorry, 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:15.239 I'm skipping ahead and I don't actually know. Well, we will, 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.840 we will get to the wells uh yeah. I also okay, 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:21.440 so there's a lot of Japanese anarchists and we don't 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.480 have that much time. So if you're like in a 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:30.040 sawa u sakataro, stand um, I'm sorry. We can't cover 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.239 all of them. Do you ever think about the history 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.920 of anarchists in Japan. That is weird is that the 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.440 beginning of the story pre dates they're actually being anarchists 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:44.919 in Japan, or specifically they're being Japanese anarchists. Um. There's 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:48.120 this huge degree of sort of like cultural exchange and 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:52.760 influence running between Japan and Russia by riche of the 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:56.959 fact that they are, you know, next to each other, um, 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:00.240 and especially in the seventies and eighties, this is one 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:04.120 of the sort of this is important again because Russia 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.360 in this period is like this is like the hotbed 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.679 of anarchism, right, Like they're they're killing, they're killing those 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.280 are they're they're they're doing all the things. They're going 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.280 to the countryside there. The Russian anarchists are sort of 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.800 on the move, and a lot of things the Russian 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.960 anarchists wind up Like in Japan, baccun In is there 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:24.040 for like he like he has some extremely complicated arrangement 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.560 who like he like sneaks on a boat and he 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:28.520 like gets out and he beats one of the sort 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:32.799 of like samurai like Beiji Restoration revolutionaries, and they chat 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:36.600 for a bit and then he leaves, so he he 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:38.800 you know, but you did, It's not this is when 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:42.800 he was escaping Siberia. Yeah, well I think, yeah, he's 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:46.840 escaping Siberia. And then he somehow convinces like the American 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:48.920 embassy or something to like let him on a boat 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:52.400 to Japan. It's it's a very weird story. It's like 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:57.200 all things Baccunan are, but the most problem in anarchists 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:01.280 to spend time in Japan is Lev ah Nikov. Um 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.080 Mashnikov is like he's like a pretty big deal in 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:08.360 Russian revolutionary circles. Like he's he's considered like okay, so 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:11.760 the big sort of like anarchists left wing moving to 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.880 Japan is the populist right. It's called the road nicks 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:18.960 Um and there there's two big figures in it. There's 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:25.799 uh Nikolai Turnachevski and this guy uh Lev Menschikov. And 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:30.080 you know, he's like he knows everyone he knows, like 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.719 he's friends. Was just like every single person and we 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:36.279 will get too more of his friends later. But like 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:38.520 he's a kind of part of bakun in um he 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:40.440 he has he has a very similar career in Beacuoni 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:41.599 in a lot of ways where he just sort of 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:45.320 like runs, especially like Eastern Europe. He's like runs around 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:49.040 the world being in revolutions um, which is good work 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.360 if he can get it. Yeah, yeah, it's it's pretty exciting. 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.839 And he doesn't die, which is sort of incredible. Well, 0:04:54.640 --> 0:05:02.720 I love that for him. So he's still around. Yes, 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:06.000 it's very sad, you know, I mean he look, look, 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:07.800 this is this is the goal of Russian cosmism. No, 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:11.240 is it actually cosmism? I have no idea. Yeah, the 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.520 cosmonaut people, yeah, yeah, they would bring back all the 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.320 dead people. Oh no, I don't know about this. I 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.320 only know a weird thing where there was like anarchist 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:24.200 cosmonauts in like nineteen twenties Russia. Yeah. Yeah, so the 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:28.920 their their whole thing was like, okay, so they thought 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:31.919 that the anarchists had been defeating in the revolution because 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.359 they were insufficiently committed to bringing the dead back to life, 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:36.400 and that that that, you know, the whole thing was 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.960 like they like, they're there's some the people who were 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.200 involved in the Soviet like rocket programs, and they're doing 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.440 this because they want to colonize the Moon and Mars 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.240 so they can fit all of the dead Poleteraria, They're 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.520 gonna bring back to life. Wait, are you telling the 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:50.640 truth to me? This is this is all true. This 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:57.400 is amazing. I've been trying to fight for the Anarchist 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:01.160 Necromancer League for so long. Which are slogan is um 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.479 raised the dead to fight like hell for the living. 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:11.640 That's that's It's incredible. But yeah, no, like the Russian cosmism, 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.400 it's a weird one cosmism. It's like a weird mix 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:18.440 of like like natural philosophy quote unquote, which is just 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:20.599 like different films of like folk magic or whatever, and 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.160 like religion and spiritual stuff. But also it's like a 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:27.240 predecessor to like the modern transhumanism. Um, it's a it's 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:31.120 an interesting little collection of ideas that was popular at 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.120 the very beginning of the twentieth century. It's it's part 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.800 of my thesis that no one normal has ever been 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.720 involved in the production of a rocket, like I mean, 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:45.000 yeahs the send and then there's just like the Nazis 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:50.200 and it's like, oh, zero normal people. I have no 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.880 counter argument. There was that because there was the guy 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:56.320 who did all the multi stage rocketry, the nihilist who 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.200 killed the czar who built the bomb that killed the tzar. 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:03.039 He like when I talked about this in my podcast, 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:07.200 probably already listened to this. You have a podcast? WHOA, yeah, 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.200 I really just I'm here. I'm gonna plug this every 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:14.320 like five minutes. On this episode, um, you can learn 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.880 about the bomb maker who killed the czar and his 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.360 what he brought to the world in terms of rocketry 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:27.040 and manned rocket travel. Anyway, please continue, and what on 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:30.080 what show? Margaret? Well, okay, is this podcast that I'm 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.520 recording on right now? When does it come out? When 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.040 are you listening to it, dear readers? Okay, well, then 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.080 next Monday you can listen to cool people who did 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:42.720 cool stuff, which is my podcast. Yeah, I'm so good 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.240 at my job. Anyway, My job is to interrupt you 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.120 with please tell me more about the cosmos and how 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:50.520 they relate to Japan. The cols was actually nothing to 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:57.360 do with this, unfortunately, but yeah, but I live, uh 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:01.520 live Meshnikov like he also he like fights with Garibaldi 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:04.360 to reunify Italy. He's just like all over the place. 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:08.440 But he's an interesting guy because okay, so there's like 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:12.240 a lot of foreigners who go to Japan, but he 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:17.680 like makes Japanese friends and like learns Japanese before he 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:21.200 goes there, which makes him like utterly different than like 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:24.200 the people who are writing like Westerners who are writing 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.280 Abu Japan in this period, who like don't speak very 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:31.760 good Japanese and never leave their houses. So nothing has changed. Yeah, yeah, 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:35.199 well like it, except weirdly this one guy is doing better. 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:38.880 Oh no, I mean nothing has changed from nowhere, no where. 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:43.600 No Westerners. Actually they just pretend to care about Japan. Okay, yeah, 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.240 it's it's it's time, there's actually that's one of the 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.000 borning themes of these two episodes is like there's a 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:52.760 lot of stuff about this, about anarchism and about Japan 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:56.760 just like don't change. But you know, so one of 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.160 the things that winds up doing is he winds up 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:01.360 spending two years teaching at this thing called the Tokyo 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:04.240 School of Foreign Languages. And this this is a bunch 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.439 of major impacts, one of which is on Meshnikov himself, 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:12.960 who he becomes heavily influenced by by the major restoration, 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:16.200 which he thinks of as like this like but he 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.040 looks at it this is like as a revolution, like 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.280 this is an anti feudal revolution. This is the most 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:24.040 successful social revolution of the century. It's like he thinks 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.679 that it's like destroyed the sort of stratified class system 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:30.560 and creates this like possibility of like mass social mobility 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:34.840 for commoners. And Okay, so this is like not the 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:39.920 best interpretation of what's going on with with the Major Restoration. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:43.120 Where I mean, so the Major Restoration sort of ends 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.200 the field system in Japan, it does a lot of 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.760 other bad things. What is it? Like, I don't know 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:52.480 that much about this, yea, so maybe the audience. Okay, 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.400 so the Major Restoration is a thing that happens where so, 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.000 so Japan has been ruled by a shogun for like 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:01.520 a long time, and the show and runs the field system. 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.520 It's very elaborate. Everyone has at least sort of minted 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:13.079 hard proadcasts. But eventually there's this kind of um like 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:18.680 that there's there's this sort of it's complicated. It's this 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:22.400 kind of nationalist movements by a bunch of um like 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.520 a bunch of the Samurai clans who this is this 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:28.679 is having in the six season they mobilized to overthrow 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:32.360 like the shogunate and basically like restore the emperor a power. 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:35.000 The emperor has been like a puppet head like figurehead 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.839 guy for like two years and they bring it back 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:41.280 to power because I'm a hack about fraud and a fraud. 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.719 I'm forgetting their exact slogan. It's something it's something like 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.920 it's Revere the Emperor, and I can't remember what the 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.960 other part of the slogan is. It's very similar to 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:53.840 the to the box rebellion slogan. It's it's this sort 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:55.880 of I mean, there's a lot of things going on here. 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.440 It's kind of a reaction to so in the in 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:02.400 the sies, like Japan is sort of forcibly opened to 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:06.160 the world by like Comma our Paris showing up with 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.600 a bunch of like the largest gunboats anyone has ever 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:12.800 seen um and this like this forces Japan to sort 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:17.480 of like abandon its isolation dispositions and yeah, and you know, 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.880 and you get this sort of classic intellectuals you're looking 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:21.760 at this and they're going like, Okay, if we don't 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:25.840 do something like we're gonna get colonized. And so they do. 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:27.120 And the thing that they do is that they do 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:30.720 this revolution and they overthrow um. They overthrow the shogunate, 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.000 there's all this like there's there's like a trillion anime 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.040 set in this period because there's like that, there's there's 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.520 like like there there are there are squads of samurai 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:40.120 swordsmen like running around like stabbing each other in Tokyo 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:43.520 with like Kyoto and like it's it's wild, it is 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.400 it is a it is a time and and this 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:50.040 sort of this is what sort of consolidates the modern 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:54.440 Japanese nation state. Um. You know, I've talked about this 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:56.520 in my Kishi episodes, but like it sets off this 0:11:56.520 --> 0:12:00.400 wave of colonialism. They like they conquer I know, they 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.440 conquered the islands, they do all this horrible colonialism stuff. 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:09.520 But there's there's it's really unclear what the revolution is 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.400 actually going to mean because like there has been a revolution, right, 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:15.160 like the sort of like feudal like class system has 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.520 been swept away. There's all of this sort of there's 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:20.079 all this this energy and the masses. There's like one 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:23.640 of one of the things that Meshikov finds is like 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:27.080 he so he gets to Japan in like the in 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:31.840 the eighteenth seventies, um, and he's seeing like the first 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:35.760 size of discontentment with with the sort of the major 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:40.679 restoration um, which is the restoration of the emperor Um. 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:42.120 Because there's a lot of people who look at this 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.120 and we're like, oh, hey, we're gonna we finally like 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.320 defeated the sort of olig Art class that like rules 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.120 all of us. And then there's a do olig Art 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.400 class and they're like wait, hold on. And so there's 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.160 there's like there's a series of like ex samurai rebellions. 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.800 There's this whole sort of like like he he like 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.320 Mashikov literally like gets there in the middle of an 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:01.520 uprising and he's just like in this reason, he has 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.800 nobody what's going on, because the guy he'd been talking 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:07.319 to winds up being in the uprising, and you know, 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:08.840 so he gets there and but what what what he 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.480 sees also is he sees his upheaval, but he sees 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.640 that this enormous networker of like cooperative movements. I mean, 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.280 he's a bunch of mutual aid groups. He sees like 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.600 villages who are like pooling all of the resources they 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.000 can send kids to like school in the cities. He 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.480 sees like he sees the government failing to provide services 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.200 for people because there's an uprising going on, and also 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:30.560 the governments and so people are sort of people taking 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:34.400 care of each other, and this has an enormous influence 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:38.319 on him. Um, and he starts to, you know, like 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:40.320 the way he thinks about anarchism changes, and he sees 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.000 like he starts to think about sort of like anarchism 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:47.160 as cooperation, like mutual cooperation between people who like mutual 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:52.680 aid enters the sort of lexicon and Okay, so there's 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:58.160 a there's a modern historian named show Kota she who 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:02.400 writes this book called Anarchist mcdar Anarchist Majornity Cooperatism. Wait, 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:07.720 hold on, yeah, Anarchist Majornity cooperatism and Japanese Russian intellectual 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:12.880 relationship Modern Japan. And he makes the argument basics, yeah, 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.320 there's there's two there. They're there. It's a it's a 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.960 better title than I'm reading it, because there's there's two. 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:22.080 There's like a heading and like a subheading straight because 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:26.280 I'm flound But he's making the argument that this, this 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.120 is like this is actually like something that's very important 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:31.520 to development of Marco communism. Because this guy, he knows 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:35.280 everyone liked the anarchist geographer, like at least Rick LuSE. 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.080 I can't pronounce his name. I think it's Lue. Yeah, 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.360 I think so, but I can't not with a gun 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.160 to my head, I'm not sure anyway. Yeah, like their 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.920 roommates like they're like they're like they lived together for 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:48.840 like a while, and like he he he writes the 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:52.680 Japan Entry, and like the Encyclopedia, he's friends with Coropotkin. 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.880 And after after his his sort of like thoughts starts 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:58.960 to change about mutual aid, you start to see a 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.440 lot of the same stuff, like you know, like this 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.920 is like he's he's there before Kopakin writes mutual aid, 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:05.480 and then you see you see all the sort of 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:07.640 mutual ad stuff popping up with Kropotkin, And you know, 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.080 I don't know how seriously to take the argument that 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:13.800 like you're sort of seeing like that that a lot 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.880 of this theory is sort of a rebound of reflection 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:19.160 of what they were seeing in Japanese society. But it's interesting, 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.320 and I think I should mention it because I don't know, 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:26.600 like there's there's this whole sort of intellectual sphere of 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.160 people who are like associated with anarchists and the other 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:32.320 thing that happens in this period is that like, um, 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.640 so there's a bunch of like Mashnikov like has a 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.880 bunch of friends in Russia who all got arrested because 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:42.600 they were in like terrorist groups, and he's able to 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.160 get like a whole bunch of these people too, Like 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:49.240 he's able to get them like exiled, and their exile 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.760 is they go to Japan, they teach with him, and 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:55.720 so suddenly there's like there's like a bunch of people 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:58.360 who are now like these people, these populist are like 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:01.040 writing stories about like the stuff they were doing, and 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:02.880 like all the people who are still fighting in Russia. 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.520 So there's suddenly there's all these people who are like 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:09.480 reading about the Russian populists uh in Japan and and 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.200 you know, and this is that there's there's this kind 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.440 of like anarchist cultural sphere that exists in Japan, like 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:21.920 before there's anarchists, um like other examples as yeah, yeah 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.720 for Japan as anarchists. They'll be like one like yeah, 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.680 there's like a couple of Russian anarchists and like yeah, 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.800 but like Mashikov leaves at one of the other big 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:35.120 thing with this is Tolstoy, who is like Tolstoy in 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:39.080 like nineties, like early nights. He's like he's the like 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:42.920 he I think he's like the most translated author like 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:47.200 on earth in Japan. And it's they're not just reading 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.960 his like literary work, they're reading his like theology is 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.400 political work, which is important because Tolstoy is like a 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:56.400 Christian and reco pacifist right and and this influences this. 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.640 There's this kind of like there's there's a lot of 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:03.040 sort of left wing anti imperial strains of Christianity that 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:04.760 pop up in Japan. And this is one of the 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:08.480 reasons for us, because everyone's reading Tolstoy, and so you 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:13.080 get the seeds of this anarchist movements that eventually sprout 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:17.040 into a man named God. This guy's name is actually 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:22.800 hard Kotuku Shoosi. I'm butchering the last part of it. 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.520 I'm sorry my Japanese does not extend to this many 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:31.160 years and eyes in a row. But Kotaku kodak he's 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:35.879 an interesting god because so he doesn't so he has 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.280 like a whole career before it becomes an anarchist. He's 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.720 he's like he's a very premp min journalist intellectual, like 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.480 he writes a newspaper. It's very famous. Everyone reads it, 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.320 and he's the heir apparent to this other like very 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:50.840 famous sort of liberal journalist. Who again, because Lev Meshnikov 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.760 knows literally everyone was like a friend of Left Mashnikov. 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.840 I don't. He knows every single person on earth. It's incredible. 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:04.120 You know that rules you know, unless you ever turned, 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:07.880 if you ever snitched to be terrible apparently never did 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:12.040 so yeah yeah, I mean it's still around, so I 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.480 mean he still could snitch. He's still around still as 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.080 the chance. Oh I guess everyone he was snitched on 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:23.480 his dead so um makes it harder. The ethics Scipilari area. Yeah, 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.199 so Kodaku is like he's kind of like a standard 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.960 liver bowal, but he gets involved with with the anti 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.119 war movements. Um specifically this is this is the the 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:34.639 anti uh well is it does anti a lot of 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:37.280 wars because the Jet Japan is fighting an enormous series 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.480 of wars and like the early nine hundreds. Um, yeah, 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:42.639 they kicked Russia's ass at that point. Yeah. Yeah, they 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:48.560 fight Japan, they fight Japans. Sorry, they fight China. Yeah, 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:50.840 and you do you know who else is fighting China? 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:55.600 I don't know. I'm afraid to know the products and 0:18:55.640 --> 0:19:00.280 services support the show. Are we supported by American nationalism? 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:18.800 Apparently yes, question mark, and we're back first Rush the 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:24.480 first actual Japanese anarchist. So in nteen, Cuckoo writes this 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:28.199 book called Imperialism, Monster of the twentieth Century, which is 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:33.800 like good, yeah, yeah, And this certificate for a number 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:35.320 of reasons, one of which is that, like, this is 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:39.119 one of the first major like books about imperialism. Like 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:42.359 there there are some other Western writers who stuff like 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:44.399 predates this, but like, this is not Hunter. This is 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:47.880 before Lenin has written about imperialism. This is before like Hobson. 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:51.080 This is before Luxembourg. And I'm just gonna read it 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:54.280 a little bit from it because it rules. So this 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.120 is from the first section. It's called imperialism of wildfire 0:19:57.200 --> 0:20:01.960 in an open field. In imperialism spreads like a wildfire 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:05.639 in an open field. All nations bow down to worship 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.159 this new god, sing hymns to praise it, and have 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:11.760 created a cult to pay to pay it adoration. Look 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:15.159 at the world that surrounds us In England's both governments 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:18.840 and citizens have become fervent acolytes of imperialism. In Germany, 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.240 the war loving emperor never loses a chance to extol 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.160 his virtues. As for Russia, the regime has long practiced 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:27.479 to policy of imperialism. France, Austria, and Italy are all 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:29.840 delighted to join the fray. Even a young country like 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:32.320 the United States has recently shown his eagerness to master 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:35.320 this new skill. And finally, this trend has reached Japan. 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:38.760 Ever since our great victory in the Sino Japanese War, 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:41.680 Japanese of all classes burned with fervor to join the 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.280 race for an empire, like a wild horse freed from 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:48.520 its harness. So you know, the one thing that he 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:51.040 got incorrect, as as I understand by spending a lot 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.520 of time on Twitter, is that actually only the United 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:57.000 States is imperialist and any actions, especially by Russia. I 0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:00.359 was very confused that he included Russia as the finished 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:05.840 the sentence of the straight face. Um, what Russia would be? Also, 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.240 how could it be imperialism if Lenin hadn't yet defined 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:11.840 the term for this is? Okay, this is the whole thing. Okay. So, 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.800 so Kutico gets like a lot of ship from this book, 0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:16.680 because for like from later on, for having his leftis 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:18.919 because it like he's insufficiently materialist. It's like, yeah, he 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:20.720 is mostly just talking, like the books mostly about like 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:24.200 how patriotism and nationalism like create this stuff. It doesn't 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:28.000 look at economics much. But like, okay, there's a whole 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:29.639 problem here, which is that if you try to apply 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:33.840 Lenin's definition of imperialism to Japan, it doesn't work because 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:36.359 like like what would Japan is invading China, they have 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:39.520 like I think it's like fifty total factories. Yeah, like that, 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:45.359 the everything is completely backwards, Like it's like yeah, and 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:48.440 like you know, it's like like like Lettin's imperialism is 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:50.800 supposed to be like the highest stage of capitalism, but 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:54.199 then you go to Japan, Japan's like barely started the 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:58.000 tradition to capitalism. Like Lettin's imperialism is supposed to be 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:00.399 about like debt exports, right, but Japan is just conquering 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:04.240 countries while they're just literally like borrowing massively from whether 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:07.159 states of funder industrialzations. Everything does nothing, None of it works, 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:10.639 And Kodaku gets like again he has he has like 0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:12.159 a lot of ship for this, but it's like no, 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:16.640 she's right, like letting is Letting is wrong, like Lettings analysis, 0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:18.520 if you try to apply in Japan does not work 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:27.120 and does so. Yeah, and you know, Cutko, I think 0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:31.639 like he's keyed into things that the Marxists aren't, but 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:35.439 like specifically about like about the power of nationalism because 0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:37.760 you know, I mean like obviously if you if you 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:39.640 go a bit later, it's like, well, all of these 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:42.200 people who are like, oh, imperialism is the highest age 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:44.040 of capitalism, and then all of their parties vote to 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:45.520 go to war with each other in World War One, 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:49.479 Like you know, Okay, Critico I think like gets this 0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:52.919 because his relationship with socialists and anti imperialism are like 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:55.480 backward from the Marxist right where the Marxists arrive at 0:22:55.480 --> 0:23:00.280 eti imperialism, like from their Marxism. But Cudico like comes 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:01.800 a socialist because he sees it as a way to 0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:04.440 stop wars. Like that's like his big thing is he's 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:05.760 in the anti war move when he want he's wars 0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:09.320 to stop. And that's the right direction to do. Ship. 0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:11.919 You should do ship because like you don't pick the 0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:16.520 label because what's cool. You pick You figure out what 0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:18.359 you believe, and then you pick the label that fits 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:20.040 what you believe and so of the other way around, 0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:22.680 you know, yeah, and and you know it means that 0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:27.960 he's less sort of like he's less dogmatic than like 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:33.440 his successors, because you know, I mean because because he's 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:36.159 he's working off of his actual principles versus sort of 0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:38.800 like this like dictation stuff, and I mean he's he's 0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:41.360 he initial three. He publishes the es as a Socialism, 0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:43.960 which is like this is like the first like socialist 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:46.960 like book written by Japanese person. It's like one of 0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:48.320 the I think there's maybe like one or two other 0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:49.639 ones that are before this is this is like the 0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:53.399 first big one. And he's he's also like he's involved 0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:56.720 in founding the Japanese Socialist Party and then he gets 0:23:56.760 --> 0:24:00.960 like arrested and sent to the US and something happens 0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:02.760 when he's in you. I don't know, there's I've seen 0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:05.280 like sis conflicting accounts, Like I've seen accounts to say 0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:07.879 he joins he joins the I w W. I I 0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:09.639 don't know. I've seen other people said he lived, he 0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:11.960 lived in a commune, like he definitely read pocket, he 0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:14.119 like becomes an anarchist. Let's decide he did all of 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.960 these things. Yeah, lived in a commune and tried to 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:20.840 organize the commedy with the I WW but you know, 0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:22.960 I mean he he this guy is enormously influential in 0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:25.240 history of Japanese left. Like he's the guy with when 0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:26.960 he comes back and actually know six, he's the guy 0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:30.840 who introduced the concept of the general strike Japan. Like 0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:33.680 he's the first guy to write about it. He's very cool. 0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:36.080 He he also like yeah, you know, he's he starts 0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:38.520 pushing this and started this. He starts pushing anarchism in 0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:40.680 sort of direct action as like instead of like doing 0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:43.960 parliamentary stuff. And he translates like Corpocket's work in the 0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:47.160 Japanese he translates the like the comedy's manifesto. He says, 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:49.240 labor organizing. He's sort of like all over the place, 0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:52.919 and you know, like labor and the anti war movement 0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:55.840 are like two of the big currents are proucing anarchists. 0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:58.840 But the the other like big current that's making anarchists 0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:05.399 this period is feminism. Because okay, so I stop me 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:07.639 if this isn't any way surprising, but the late eighteen 0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:09.679 hundreds and early neteen hunters are not a time to 0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:14.359 be a woman in Japan. Really. Yeah, it's not a 0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:17.600 good time like anywhere, but it's not not even now, 0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:21.359 it's not the best. Yeah, I mean I will be improved. 0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:24.120 I will say it's it's it's better than this. This 0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:29.800 is like sure, like the major regime is sort of 0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:32.560 like consultating self as just consultating itself. It gets like 0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:37.400 progressively more like patriarchal, misogynist. I'm gonna I'm gonna read 0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:39.840 from the book Reflections on the Way to the Gallows, 0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:41.720 which is this. It's a great book. It's it's an 0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:45.640 awesome a collection of Yeah, well so that that's uh, 0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:51.440 how god, I forget one of the Japanese anarchists who's 0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:53.600 about to die, Like that's the title of like a 0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:58.119 piece that she wrote. Um, and they this book is 0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:01.119 like a collection of of Japanese feminist writings, mostly from 0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:02.920 people who get killed by the state, because that's what 0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:07.320 happens when your feminist Japan this period. Um oh yeah, 0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:09.679 it's bad, okay, So I'm gonna read the quote from this. 0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:13.800 In two the government forbid women to make political speeches, 0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:16.480 and in eighteen ninety made it illegal for women to 0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:20.760 participate in political activities whatsoever. Women were forbidden to even 0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:25.800 listen to political speeches. The Police Security Regulations of reinforced 0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:29.280 these strictures. Article five of the regulations prohibited women from 0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:34.800 forming any political organization whatsoever. Jesus. Yeah, it's like that's 0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:38.280 like a level of restriction that like I'm not sure 0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:43.600 I've ever seen like that explicit level of no, you 0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:47.560 can't do this. Yeah, I feel like it's usually implicit 0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:49.840 in a lot of Western tries. And then also, like 0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.280 one of the things that really strikes sticks out to 0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:53.879 me about that is that I'm so used to thinking 0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.199 about I think people tend to think about like this 0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:59.479 like linear progress model, where like you go back really far, 0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:02.720 like all women and all other oppressed categories had it 0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:04.840 terrible and then it just slowly gets better or whatever. 0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:07.640 But if they're passing these laws in nine hundred, there's 0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:11.880 an implicit it was a little better before. Yeah, yeah, 0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:15.679 it's very specifically gets worse on them. Like so one 0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:18.720 of the things with the eighteen ninety legal coaches that 0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:22.000 didn't like it literally just legally enshrines like patriarch control 0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:24.880 the households and this this is this is a massive 0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:27.680 reactionary shift in jack in Sert of Jeoparanese like domestic 0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:31.159 and political culture like this, like that that kind of 0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:33.440 patriarchal control. The household was like a thing in some 0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:36.919 Samurai families, but like it wasn't a thing for there's 0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:38.840 a huge number of popular classes like just that didn't 0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:44.040 exist and they just legislated into existence. And like you know, 0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:45.640 I mean like the things that the things that they're 0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:49.359 applying here, like women need consent of their father to marry. 0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:51.919 Um is for another quote for the book, one of 0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:54.960 the provisions held that quote cripples and disabled persons and 0:27:55.040 --> 0:28:00.439 wives cannot undertake any legal action. Fucking huh. Yeah. So 0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:02.640 this is this is this is an incredibly reactionary state. 0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:04.840 And there's also like there's a lot of sex trafficking 0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:07.600 going on, like like actual like there's a lot of 0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:11.080 people just being grabbed off the street. Um. It's a 0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:14.800 it's a it is a disaster, and it is into 0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:18.560 this patriarchal mess that like several generations of Japanese ARCA 0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:21.880 feminists step into. Um. The most famous of the first 0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:26.960 round is Kano Sugako, who's she She's a socialist author 0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:32.320 who conversed to She's originally Scius listen and she conversed anarchism, 0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:33.480 which is like a thing that happens a lot in 0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.680 this period. And she she's working as a journalist and 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.320 you know she she's she's like she's a very sort 0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:42.479 of controversial figure in the government like hates her. So 0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.440 she meets Kotuku and they have an affair. And this 0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:47.240 is like one of the other things that keeps happening 0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:49.160 here is there's a lot of like free love stuff 0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:52.760 going around the Japanese anarchist circle at this time. And 0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:54.520 this this has two consect which is one is a 0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:56.480 lot of men use it to be really shitty and 0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.640 means there was like there is a again this is 0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:01.479 this is this is the big like nothing has ever 0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:05.000 changed the anchist movement. There are so many relationship drama 0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:09.080 things nothing. There are so many times this last circle, 0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:13.720 like like there are two different times when the most 0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.760 famous Japanese anchist man and the most famous Japanese anecists 0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:19.320 women wind up in a relationship. It ends with it 0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:21.840 with them explaining the movement and then both dying in prison. 0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:30.400 Like this happens twice. Exact sequence happens twice. It's nuts, 0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.040 like they're they're just they're just doing polyquel ship like 0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:41.440 it's oh, they just need better mediators. Yeah, well, I 0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:43.360 mean this is this is the thing with like the 0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:46.480 Japanese like the Japanese anchist movement like has a huge 0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:50.040 feminist wing, but like the men still suck, like you 0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:54.040 just keep being bad. And so you know when you 0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:57.400 ever thing about this is that Kano Sukako is like 0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:01.320 enormously more militant than like almost every other any other 0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:03.960 anarchists that's alive in Japan at this point. And so 0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:05.920 in the nineteen ten she gets involved with the plan 0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:09.680 to assassinate the emperor um and this becomes known as 0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:13.080 the High Treason incidents, and the state like gets wind 0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:18.400 of this, they arrest her, They arrest uh Go Taku, 0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:22.360 and they arrest like twenty two other twenty two yeah, 0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:27.320 twenty two other anarchists. Um. Now like five of these 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:32.920 people are like even tangentially involved in this plot. Um, 0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:38.080 but they this is okay, So I can't say that 0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.320 that the Japanese government only does this to anarchists because 0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:42.760 they do this a fascist like once, but like they 0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:46.080 do this thing where okay, So they have a bunch 0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.280 of people that they want to execute, right, so they 0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:52.040 find one person who's like an ideological figure, and they're like, Okay, 0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:53.880 you're now in the middle of this, and you're the 0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:56.600 link between like this group and this other group want 0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:57.840 to kill. This other grouple want to kill the other 0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:03.560 grouple want to kill. And so they convict uh like 0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:09.200 jo Um and uh like they they all get convicted 0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.880 and they all get executed. Yeah, And so this case 0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:13.880 is also interesting because there's a bunch of people who 0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:17.160 the state like wanted to kill but they couldn't because 0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:19.600 they'd already arrested. They'd already they like this is like 0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:22.360 two years after like a mass arrest of like half 0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:24.680 of the Japanese anarchist movement, and so they have all 0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:27.520 these people who are in prison, and it's like, even 0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:30.720 by like the standards of the Japanese state, it's like, Okay, 0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:32.720 how are we going to convict all of these people 0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:35.360 who have been in prison for two years of trying 0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:37.120 to of like being a part of this plot to 0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:39.720 kill the emperor that was like organized outside of the jail. 0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:43.200 And so this this is the thing that saves like 0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:46.440 a huge portion of the Japanese anarchist movements, that saves 0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:50.280 it from literally so like this. The hydrogen incident kills 0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:52.560 like most of the famous anarchists in Japan, but it 0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:55.400 leaves like like a couple alive. And that's why they're 0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:58.560 alive because they were all in prison. Wait, how are 0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:02.720 they going to kill the emperor? The plan didn't get 0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.360 very far. I think they were trying to use a bomb, 0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:08.920 but the police got wind of it very very early, 0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:11.480 not classes so that they never really got much like 0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:16.800 past the planning stage. Um, this is a shame. Yeah yeah, 0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:19.720 and do do you know what else never gets very 0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:23.400 far plass past the planning stage when they're trying to 0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:27.680 assassinate the Emperor of Japan? Is it the ads because 0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:32.200 they don't know how to do direct action because they're 0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:36.640 too investion in capitalism. That that is, that is actually 0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.360 exactly what we were talking about. Margaret, Thank you so much, 0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.720 and we're back. I was genuinely trying to see if 0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:54.560 I could like to think of a of a company 0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:56.440 that had like tried to kill the Japanese emperor, and 0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:58.800 I couldn't think of one. And I was like, hmmm, 0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:02.640 this says something to society. This does This is a real, 0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.600 real solid critique we have here. I really hope that 0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:09.920 ten years from now this all seems very dated. You're like, 0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:14.400 of course someone's major company has tried to never mind 0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:22.640 one one can dream, so kinda, Sugaku is dead, Kotaku 0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:25.400 is also dead, and this this means that it's time 0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:28.280 for sort of like another generation of of anarchists to 0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:31.400 try to fill in the gaps. So they're executed. Yeah, yeah, 0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:33.800 they're dead, Like they just die and they kill, they kill, 0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:37.240 they kill like twenty two of the anarchists or something. 0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:39.840 And I mean this is a this is a huge purge. 0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:42.760 I mean they don't wind up executing just like there's 0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:48.200 just like a like a sympathetic like Buddhist priest. It's executed. Um, 0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:54.160 I when is this? This is nice? And eleven? Sorry yeah, 0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.440 this is nice un eleven um, And actually there's nothing 0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:00.600 to think about this kind of Saku becaus the first 0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.040 woman ever executed by the Japanese state. She will not 0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:09.680 be the last. Like oh boy, um feminist, Yeah, I 0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:19.120 mean equal rights, equal fights. There's another like very influential 0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:24.120 market feminist who's emergence slightly after like just like in 0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:28.520 like nineteen four and nine is each on No way, 0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:33.560 she's an egoist, anarchist who eventually, last, finally, finally we 0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.600 bring it up. That's all I have to say about 0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:39.880 That's like almost all I had to say. She she 0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:43.239 she takes over the editorial position of this, uh, this 0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:45.960 magazine called Blue Stocking Magazine, which is like Japan's I 0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:47.720 think it's It's like, this is like the most important 0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:50.800 feminist magazine in Japan, and she takes over the editorial 0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:54.080 staff about it. And her work is really interesting in 0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:58.040 a lot of ways because it just it just straight 0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:01.440 up is contemporary feminism in a way that like a 0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:03.759 lot of the stuff in this period isn't. Like if 0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:06.120 if you go and read the arguments she's having, she's 0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:07.839 arguing that sex work should be legal and that everyone 0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:09.759 should be should be able to get abortions because women 0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:15.919 should have autonomy over their bodies. Yeah, it's like, yeah, 0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:20.239 this is this is not going to end well for her, 0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:24.719 but you know what, it doesn't end well for any 0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:27.279 of us in a long enough timeline. You know, like 0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:29.440 all that matters is the time of what we do. 0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:35.960 At this time, we are bad. Okay, fine, yeah, so yeah, 0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:37.279 I think so she's able to do this for like 0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:39.640 a year in the Japanese state looks at this, it 0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:44.120 is like absolutely not and shust the magazine down. Um, 0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:46.239 And so she she gets forced to move on to 0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:48.160 other things. And the other thing she moved on she 0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:50.960 moves on to is being extremely heavily involved in the 0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:54.400 free love movement of course, yeah yeah, and and but 0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:57.320 also and this is the thing that's that's interesting about 0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:00.120 the sort of period of Japanese anarchism is that like 0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:04.440 the egoists are all also syndicalists. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah 0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:07.560 yeah yeah. And she's so she she's like heavily involved 0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:09.680 in labor organizing. And this is how she comes into 0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:15.040 contact with her partner, who she's like cheating on her 0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:18.640 imprisoned husband, who will later form the Japanese Communist Party. 0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:23.160 That's a lot of stuff happening. There's there, there's so much, 0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:29.560 there's so much beef. It's incredible. There's there's this like 0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:31.680 we haven't even gotten to the wild part of this 0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:34.239 relationship yet, okay, which is so so okay. So she 0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:36.680 she comes to contact with her partner or person who 0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:40.280 would become her partner, Saki Sakai, who is like dating 0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:44.200 another very famous Japanese arca feminist who she stabs him 0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:46.200 in the neck over the fact that she's in multiple 0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:52.239 relationships at once. So this isn't from her, Yeah, this 0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:53.960 is this is the thing that keeps happening with free 0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:55.960 love of this period. It's like, you gotta like, you 0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:58.919 gotta lay down, You got to make sure everyone's okay 0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:02.720 with everything. Sure seemed to the right things in theory, 0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:06.280 but then in practice they sure, yeah, sure do fall apart? 0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:10.560 Huh yeah, And this two divides the Japanese anicy. But 0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:12.520 does she win, did she succeed? Did she kill him 0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:16.920 or did he survive that? Nod? Okay, Yeah, I'm just 0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:18.719 I have there's a special place in my heart for 0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:26.480 split slit throats of patriarchal man anyway. So most like 0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:30.160 Kai is also very heavily involved in labor organizing, and 0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:34.280 he he's one of the guys who like turns anarchist 0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:37.439 labor into like a serious political force, which is maybe 0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:42.280 it's good that they survived, Yeah, like it's probably net good. 0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:47.840 But all of the guys in this story like suck 0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:53.600 except do I haven't except here? What about the Korean 0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:57.080 guy who? Um, oh yeah, we get to him. Yeah, 0:37:57.080 --> 0:38:00.600 he's he's kind of like I think he's actually one. Yeah, 0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:03.319 I think maybe the end of his story gets weird. Yeah, 0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:06.040 we'll we'll we'll get to that in a second. Um. 0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:09.040 But yeah, so Saya Sakai has like he has he 0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.520 has this like fusion of like egoism and syndicalism, where 0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:14.080 like the individual ego will be liberated through collective action, 0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:15.600 but the goal of the workers movement is not to 0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:18.800 just like end poverty, it's to like liberate the individual 0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:22.920 and give themselves developments. And he's also this like incredibly fierce, 0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:25.840 like like one of his big thing is that like 0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:28.480 he does not want intellectuals anywhen you're the workers movement, 0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:34.520 like does absolutely not. Yeah, and this is because like 0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:36.360 again he's been around for ages, Like he becomes an 0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:40.399 anarchist around the time when um Kotaku doesn't like that's no. Six, 0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:42.279 So he's been like arounded. He's one of the guys 0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:43.840 who survives the High Trees in the incident because he 0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:48.440 was already in prison, Okay, all right, and he like 0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:50.120 he's one of the people who like keeps the sort 0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.120 of flame of anarchism alive after like they're fussion nineteen eleven. 0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:55.759 But unfortunately for him, Um and for eacho no way, 0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:59.279 they get caught up in the Canto earthquake, of which 0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:04.840 is just like this earthquake between Yokohama and Tokyo alone 0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:08.719 kills two hundred thousand people. It is like it is 0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:11.759 like it is one of the worst like natural disasters. 0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:16.120 It's it's really bad and in immediately gets worse. The 0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:19.160 state wouldn't use a natural disaster to try and further 0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:24.960 its aims through extra legal means. Yeah, so, okay, I'm 0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:28.360 gonna start with. One of the ways that the genocide 0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:32.080 of Korean people in Japan at this time starts is 0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:35.160 so there's a bunch of Korean workers in a long 0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.719 turre union that's been organized by this builitin like left 0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:41.520 his union guy named Yamaguchi Sakan And okay, so like 0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:43.680 they're in this long shore union, there's this disaster. They 0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:45.560 start doing vitual a, they start going out, they started 0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:47.920 taking care of so if iver start giving people food. 0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:50.720 But you know, they're they're like waving red flags and stuff, 0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:53.719 and the Japanese police lose their minds and are like, 0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:56.200 oh my god, there the jet the Koreans are doing 0:39:56.280 --> 0:40:02.879 socialism and they just start killing them and they there's 0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:05.000 this whole thing about like there's these rumors start that 0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.359 like Koreans are raping Japanese women and it turns into 0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:10.520 this thing about like looting, and then like Korean malcontents 0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:14.000 are supposed to be like overrunning police stations and the 0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:17.640 lynch mobs. The lists are mostly targeting Koreans, but they're 0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:20.360 also tart, like if you're Chinese, if you're from Baku Islands, 0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:23.600 like they're killing you. Two um, they kill two thousand 0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:26.920 Koreans in Tokyo and another two thousand in Yokohama, and 0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:30.600 like two thousand Koreans in Yokohama that is half the 0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:36.000 Korean population of the city. And these people die like horribly, 0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:38.560 like because it's not like so that the polices are 0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:42.280 actively hunting them down. Like the entirety of Japanese society 0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:45.920 like remembers that they really like killing people and they 0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:49.120 really like fighting, and like you have people like taking 0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:52.960 their like ceremonial swords from like their ancestors who are 0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:55.080 in the major Revolution, Like they're taking their katanas, going 0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:57.600 industry and murdering people with them, like people just like 0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:00.480 have fish hooks and they're just murdering people the street 0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:02.560 and this goes on for like, this goes on for days, 0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:07.080 and one of the things that happens in this is um, well, okay, 0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:10.120 so the one of the other things happens in this 0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:12.880 period that the Javits government just starts like arresting Brandon 0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:17.200 left Iss and executing them. Yeah, and that's what was 0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:19.840 supposed to happen to know to Echo no A and 0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:23.520 Osaka Saikai. But they get arrested by squad and military 0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:32.120 police led by mashachikom Akasu who just she just murders them. Um. 0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.799 There's like conflicting stories of how this happened. There's there's 0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:38.800 one version of it where like he kills them and 0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:41.200 like their six year old nephew and throws their bodies 0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:43.319 out a well, there's another version of it where they 0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:46.360 get strangled and that he strangles have been prison and 0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:48.640 this is like a huge outrage, but it's not huge 0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:50.240 at range because he murdered them as the huge outrage 0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:53.279 because he's supposed to wait for the trial, h I 0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:59.040 mean and yeah, and this is one of the things 0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:00.400 that like this is this is part of how like 0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:03.239 fascism comes to Japan, is that like he becomes a 0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:04.960 hero for the fascist right, Like he goes to prison 0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:07.600 for ten years supposedly, but he only serves three, and 0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:09.799 then he gets out he becomes a hero, and then 0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:13.200 he becomes basically the head of like the sort of 0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:17.040 fascist secret police in the like Maenturian puppet state. But 0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:19.239 on the upside, he when would Japan loses to war, 0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:24.680 he kills himself. So when I with the story I 0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:27.160 had heard was that the Throne in the Well story, 0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:29.160 and I remember it. It's stuck with me so much 0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:33.880 because the first time I met anarchists from Japan, they 0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:36.920 gave me a zine and it was like Japanese anarchist martyrs, 0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:38.919 you know, like the martyrs of our movement or whatever. 0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:40.960 And I was like looking through it and we're all 0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:45.520 of these children, and it just like really emotionally affected 0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:49.600 me that I was like, oh, y'all's martyrs include all 0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:53.440 of these like literally not like like literal like like 0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:56.640 six year olds and stuff, because you know they came 0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:59.640 and killed not just the grown up anarchists, but the 0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:03.719 baby anarchists or whatever as well. Um. I know that 0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:05.719 this has happened lots of places, but it just it 0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:08.400 really stuck with me so whether it's true or not, 0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:10.560 the story I heard was this story about the well 0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:13.840 and then it's stuck with me. Yeah, I mean, like 0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:22.920 the level of repression in Japan, like it's it's unlike 0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:25.040 anything I've ever seen that's not in a country that's 0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:27.640 literally in the middle of the civil war. M Like, 0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:34.080 they just they just like murder people like constantly. Yeah. 0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:35.360 And then this is one of the other things, like 0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:36.920 one of the things that starts the right wing like 0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:40.040 turn in Japanese society is when is when the three 0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:43.000 happens and the government is like like they're like the 0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:45.120 police are being like, it's the Koreans. You need to 0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:48.279 go fight the Koreans, and so they do, and like 0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:51.320 I mean yeah, like wait, they like blame the earthquake 0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:53.719 on the Koreans. Yeah. Well, so everything is there's this fire, 0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:58.839 the fire kills like sixty people, like it consumes they're 0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:02.600 like they're they're the urban horror of uh what's the 0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:07.560 name of that city. Ah, the urban core of Yokohama 0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:10.040 just goes up in flames, like sixty people burned to death, 0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:13.680 and that's the government needs some explanation for you. It's horrible. 0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:15.520 But like the government is an explation for it. They're like, oh, 0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:18.680 we'll blame the Koreans. And then suddenly all of these 0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:23.000 people are just like like the whole of Japanese society 0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:26.040 just goes into this total mobilization like kill mode thing 0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:29.120 and they just murder enormous members of people and this 0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:31.400 and like that this has this enormous sort of like 0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:33.560 like cultural affection, shifting people back to the right and 0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:36.800 shifting people back towards militarism because now they've like you know, 0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.120 like they've they've tasted blood, they've like they've gotten this 0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:42.719 sort of sense of it. Yeah, it is brutal, um 0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:46.239 And before we go, we're gonna kill off one more 0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:52.120 anarchist the team. Can we kill off the other team instead? Unfortunately, no, 0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:54.359 none of them die in this story. It's the worst. 0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:59.239 All of the assassination attempts fail. It's so sad. Yeah, 0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:05.040 all right, I forgot how depressing this because I was 0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:06.840 I was remembering part two of this, which is just 0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:11.000 like absolutely hilarious, kind of pointless like ideological battle over 0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:12.960 like things that are kind of dumb, and then I 0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:14.480 forgot about the first part of the story, which is 0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:18.560 everyone gets executed. So the last person who we're talking 0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:24.000 about he gets executed is is Fumiko Konako, who is Fumkokko. 0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:26.720 So she she she's a nihilist anarchist, but she's different 0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:29.080 from like everyone else we've talked about today so far 0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:31.920 because when she's a kid, she gets sent to live 0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:35.960 in Japanese occupied Korea, and so she goes there and 0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:38.960 she gets like horribly abused by her family, which leads 0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:40.920 to become like leaves of her becoming a nihilist, but 0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:43.719 it means to like okay, so like like a lot 0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:46.759 of the anarchists like in Japan talk a big game 0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:49.440 again about anti like imperialism, right, and like they will 0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:51.600 do things like yeah, like they will go fight police 0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:52.960 to try to stop a war for happening, but they 0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:58.920 don't really talk to people in Korea very much. And 0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:01.200 food kind of Coope was like the exception to that, 0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:03.440 because you know, she she lived there for a long time. Um, 0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:08.360 and she she winds up marrying Paciol who is a 0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:10.919 very influential Korean anarchist, and they they do a bunch 0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:13.759 of organizing the specifically like that their their thing is 0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:15.640 they're trying to like get there, trying to enter the 0:46:16.080 --> 0:46:21.359 Japanese occupation and you know, they're they're doing great work. 0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:24.719 And then unfortunately after the earthquake, Uh, she and pak 0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:27.000 Yo are and uh stop me if you've heard this 0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:29.440 one before, they are sentenced to death for a supposed 0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:32.400 plot to kill the emperor. Wait wait now, yeah, we 0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:35.319 already did this part. You're just repeating, Yeah, yeah, they 0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:38.319 do it again. This is the second time. Like they 0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:41.400 just keep doing this and this one it's unclear if 0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:44.200 there was actually a plot, and if there was a plot, 0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:46.560 it's unclear to what extent form kan Code was like 0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:48.800 involved with it. But while she's getting get arrogated, she's like, 0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:51.400 oh yeah, no, like I hate the emperor. I was 0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:53.279 absolutely involved in a plot to kill him, Like I 0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:56.359 was making a bomb to kill him. Uh. Also, I'm 0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:58.880 an anarchist. And here's like an incredibly detailed sketch of 0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.400 like all of the appreshiative Japanese society. But I'm just 0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:03.600 gonna tell you, like the person she's like like the 0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:07.640 court examiner who's like and and you know, there's there's 0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:10.560 anything that happens where she and Pacuole are like are 0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:12.920 handed pardons as like the sort of like mercy of 0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:17.160 the Emperor thing and Paciol like takes it but go 0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:18.920 kind of co like they hander the paper and she 0:47:19.040 --> 0:47:21.879 cheers it to shreds in front of them, and it's 0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:25.040 so embarrassing that like the record of what happened is 0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:28.920 like sealed until after World War Two because it was 0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:32.240 a big like, um, it was like a big media scandal, 0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:34.360 all of the stuff with them being arrested, right, and 0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:37.640 I'm basically I don't actually know more, but I watched 0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:39.919 a movie once. There's a great movie about this called 0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:43.800 Anarchists from Colony. This part of it, yeah yeah, and 0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:46.400 she yeah, and like yeah, it's just the whole thing, 0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:48.239 and like that. The government also kind of doesn't want 0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:51.680 to assassinate them because it looks really bad that. I mean, 0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:54.919 they've they've they've picked, they've they've arrested to random people 0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:57.120 who like have done nothing, and they're just gonna kill them, 0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:00.400 but for mechanicals like no, like, I believe in the 0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:03.440 things that I believe in, and I will literally like 0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:06.239 tear up this parted and die for it. And so 0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:09.399 she tears out the pardon and so she goes to prison, 0:48:09.480 --> 0:48:12.040 and she lives long enough to write like the greatest 0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:14.920 entry in the in the genre of an archi feminist 0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:19.000 a Japanese narchi feminist prison memoirs, which is an entire genre. 0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:23.319 There's like multiple books because this keeps happening and these 0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:25.719 people get arrested and set the prison. It's called the 0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:29.120 Prison Memoirs of a Japanese Woman. It's great, everyone should 0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:32.160 go read it. It's it's also extremely depressing because her 0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:38.160 life sucks. But yeah, it's it's it's good. Um. Yeah. 0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:41.480 And so now having killed off the leading intellectuals of 0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:45.399 anarchism again for the second time in a generation, Uh, 0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:47.879 you would think that this would this would kill the movement, 0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:52.080 Like I think, I think like movements like if if 0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:55.800 you kill they're leading intellectuals, like all of them, like 0:48:56.360 --> 0:49:01.680 twice in like twelve years, like the woman collapses. Yeah 0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:05.680 that but at the very beginning, there was the guy 0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:08.280 who said keep the intellectuals away from the labor organizing. 0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:12.040 Maybe he is right, well, but this, this is this. Yeah. 0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:13.560 The incredible thing about this is no, it doesn't it 0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:16.920 doesn't kill them. They keep going like and they have 0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:20.880 they have one last glorious, glorious and absolutely baffling hurrah. 0:49:21.440 --> 0:49:26.600 Okay of like infighting, extremely weird and funny in fighting. 0:49:27.440 --> 0:49:29.640 So yeah, that that's what we're gonna be talking about 0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:35.640 next episode. All right, yeah, is it time for the 0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:39.920 plug of the plug? Yes? Oh oh, Margaret, you who 0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:43.840 have a new podcast about that. It's on this very network, 0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:46.239 Cool Zone Media, on this very network. I have my 0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:49.920 own podcast. Is it called cool People Who Did Cool Stuff? 0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:54.080 And doesn't? So? Does it come out on May second? 0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:57.040 And is it produced by the webby award winning Sophie 0:49:57.120 --> 0:50:03.200 lich German? Uh? Perhaps? 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