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Speaker 1: Team Buck. Welcome to the Freedom hud on this lovely Thursday,

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Speaker 1: the twelfth of August. Let's get to it. The schoolmask

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Speaker 1: rebellion is under way. How many COVID breakthrough cases are

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Speaker 1: there where the vaccine doesn't actually stop someone from getting

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Speaker 1: infected and passing the infection on? The New New York

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Speaker 1: Governor Hokel threatens to shut down schools and institute a

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Speaker 1: mask mandate. Lori Lightfoot of Chicago says, the police budget's

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Speaker 1: definitely going to increase next time around, and cobble could

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Speaker 1: be in Taliban hands within a month. Let's let's jump

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Speaker 1: into it, my friends. Let's get to a first off,

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Speaker 1: The reality right now is that masks in schools have

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Speaker 1: become the center, the center area of battle over whether

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Speaker 1: we're going to have the permanent COVID state or not.

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Speaker 1: Because let's just review for a second here. We were told,

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Speaker 1: in very clear terms. We were told that the vaccines

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Speaker 1: were the end. We were told that the vaccines had

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Speaker 1: over ninety four percent in the case of fiser effectiveness. Right,

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Speaker 1: that was that number, ninety ninety five percent vaccines better

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Speaker 1: than our wildest dreams, and so that was it. Get

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Speaker 1: the shot and you're done now. I understand there are people,

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Speaker 1: many people, including myself, who have not gotten the shot.

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Speaker 1: But we're at about half the country in total vaccinated,

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Speaker 1: and yet here we are being told that Florida is

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Speaker 1: having record caseload, Texas is having a record caseload in

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Speaker 1: some areas. What the heck is going on? I want

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Speaker 1: to return to that for a second, but just I

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Speaker 1: wanted to put that thought out there. How could that be?

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Speaker 1: We have at least half the country has the vaccine,

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Speaker 1: which means that you've got a much smaller population for

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Speaker 1: the virus to spread. You also have over one hundred

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Speaker 1: million people who have natural immunity, So if the vaccine

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Speaker 1: is piled on top of at what's going on? They

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Speaker 1: don't want to ask these questions, and some people are

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Speaker 1: starting to. I just want to be clear. They're not

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Speaker 1: going to be able to hide from this forever. But

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Speaker 1: something's up. Friends. What they've told you is not correct.

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Speaker 1: I don't have all the answers, but they don't have

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Speaker 1: all the answers either about what's going on. Right now?

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Speaker 1: Just get the shot. Just get the shot, Shut up

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Speaker 1: and get the shot. That's not enough. That doesn't explain

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Speaker 1: what's happening. But let's get too masks in schools. First

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Speaker 1: of all, in a purely human behavior based analysis, you

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Speaker 1: can tell that masks in schools are stupid beyond words.

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Speaker 1: Kids are going to be pulling them up, pulling them down,

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Speaker 1: taking them on, taking them off. They're gonna have, you know,

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Speaker 1: They're going to be in close proximity to each other.

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Speaker 1: And if you really want to know them, and how

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Speaker 1: separated in some classrooms by plexiglass, which just doesn't do anything.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't do anything. Imagine you were in a classroom

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Speaker 1: and there was there was you know, phosphine gas or

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Speaker 1: you and the plexiglass. Would you say, oh, great, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much. I feel safe now. This is how

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Speaker 1: stupid people are and how the COVID security theatrics have

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Speaker 1: been indefensibly dumb for a very long time. And then

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Speaker 1: that brings me to masks. The biggest studies of this

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Speaker 1: by the way, when I say study, you can just

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Speaker 1: And there's no indication that this is an important policy.

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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of indication that this just is

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Speaker 1: a reminder. Remember what I told you back in May.

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Speaker 1: the planes. They're keeping it in the background like a

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Speaker 1: virus that can come roaring back. All the lockdown measures,

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Speaker 1: about three months. Get the shot and you're done to

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Speaker 1: Why why can't everyone just understand that clearly the public

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Speaker 1: health authorities, the government bureaucrats that work on health, the CDC,

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Speaker 1: When they make predictions, they're wrong over and over again.

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Speaker 1: have been. But now we're seeing the fight in the

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Speaker 1: totalitarian excuse, isn't it. You're not even allowed to breathe

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Speaker 1: having a massive psychological effect on society, your children. You

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Speaker 1: what's going on right now. Some people are starting to

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Speaker 1: see this little Fauci and his minions and the morons

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Speaker 1: of course, saying that it's sorry, no parental choice involved here.

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Speaker 1: Play one. The choices that people are making not to

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Speaker 1: see masked work, they work. That's what they'll tell you.

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Speaker 1: It's appalling stupidity. But they're going after Descantists with everything

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Speaker 1: Stop being crazy libs, stop being crazy. They won't though,

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Speaker 1: but breakthrough cases. Maybe a bigger problem than you've been told.

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Speaker 1: But most of the data men analysis comes from before

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Speaker 1: the analysis about how oh no, the virus, I mean,

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Speaker 1: The vaccines are performing admirably and protecting the very sick.

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Speaker 1: I could just tell you there was this cyclical nature of, oh,

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Speaker 1: and we've we've learned from the past. And then wash rinse, repeat,

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Speaker 1: wash rinse, repeat every time, every time you say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: how exactly, how exactly is that going to get to

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Speaker 1: a place of honesty about these things? How are we

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Speaker 1: going to know what's really working what's not. That wasn't

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Speaker 1: really the goal. The goal was for the I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about command staff level now, I'm talking about the people

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Speaker 1: ambassadors for star generals, a lot of careerism, place of

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Speaker 1: sober reality. Afghanistan. Oh, I didn't even tell you what's good.

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Speaker 1: They say they've taken Condahar, which is depending on how

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Speaker 1: lot of Americans fought very hard to keep out of

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Speaker 1: the hands of the Taliban, Kandahar seems will fall. Now

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Speaker 1: we're at more than half a dozen provincial capitals in

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Speaker 1: the hands of the Taliban. I mean, Kabbal, the capital

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Speaker 1: I tweeted today, within thirty to sixty days, it might

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Speaker 1: even be. It might even be inside of thirty days.

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Speaker 1: I said, thirty to sixty seems like what you're looking at.

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Speaker 1: So but maybe maybe in a matter of weeks could

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Speaker 1: just fall. Think about it this way. Do you want

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Speaker 1: Kabble going up against the Taliban? Or you want to

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Speaker 1: just say, you know what we lost. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: go back to my village, hide my AK forty seven

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Speaker 1: I used to work with the Americans. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: I think the choice that a lot of Afghans are

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Speaker 1: So you know, there's some lessons in this, obviously in

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Speaker 1: lessons in the on the purely strategic who's in charge?

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Speaker 1: Who do you listen to? Side of things? How many

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Speaker 1: people do you know that had seen your roles in

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Speaker 1: should we should just get out of this place. I

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Speaker 1: mean the answer is very very few, if any. They

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Speaker 1: all were saying, oh no, I know how to fix it,

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Speaker 1: I know how to fix it. What does that kind

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Speaker 1: of remind you of? The experts knew what to do

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Speaker 1: except they didn't. Except their incentives were to present themselves

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Speaker 1: as experts who had answers. It wasn't about getting it right,

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Speaker 1: It wasn't about the mission set. It was about what

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Speaker 1: does this look like for me when I come back?

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Speaker 1: Am I going to get that board seat at Raytheon?

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Speaker 1: Or Am I going to get that Brookings Institute? You know,

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Speaker 1: show up to a comfortable office and do nothing all

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Speaker 1: day at a think tank? Am I going to get that?

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Speaker 1: Or is the National Security and Foreign Policy apparatus going

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Speaker 1: to be upset with me for speaking difficult truths? I

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Speaker 1: think there are real lessons in all this. I think

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Speaker 1: there are lessons we have to pay close attention to.

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Speaker 1: But Afghanistan, my friends, is is a huge, huge mess.

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Speaker 1: And I think that the Taliban is unless we're willing

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Speaker 1: to invade, unless we're willing to have a major US

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Speaker 1: clearly not. This government in Afghanistan is not going to last,

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Speaker 1: so we'll continue to follow this. We'll look at this closely,

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