WEBVTT - How Faraday Cages Work

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you should know, a production of I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark.

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<v Speaker 1>There's Charles w Chuck Bryan over there, there's Jerry over there,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is stuff you should know. I have let

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<v Speaker 1>me more to comment other than that. All right, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you chucking? Good? I'm great good, I'm glad. What

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<v Speaker 1>are you drinking? I'm drinking Perry. It's French, fancy fancy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm drinking just regular old dumb American water. What is

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<v Speaker 1>that tap water? Don't drink that well, I mean it's water,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not out of the tap. I have a death

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<v Speaker 1>wish on my hands. Right, you know what I love?

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<v Speaker 1>If you're going fizzy drinks, best fizzy drink of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say Sam Pellegrino. Um, well, any Sam peret

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<v Speaker 1>flavored kind Topechico. Oh yeah, it's good. Jerry's nodding with emphasis.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had one before. Yeah, the Topachico. I just like

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<v Speaker 1>the plane. It is the fizziest of fizz, is it.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, here's a little drink for you. Tequila and

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<v Speaker 1>Topechico and about a half a lime. That's it. Low calorie, clean, simple, refreshing, simple, meager, delicious, meager, disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like what a what a quaker? Or uh, what

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<v Speaker 1>a Quaker would drink? Or um? Yeah? Righte tequila? Who

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<v Speaker 1>am I thinking of? I have no idea what you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about? Now? Who goes on rum Springer? Oh? Amish?

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<v Speaker 1>The Amish. It's what the Amish would drink, very plain, straightforward,

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<v Speaker 1>boozy drink. Oh. I think when the Amish, uh going

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<v Speaker 1>rum spring and they probably go straight for the hard stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>straight for the Harvey wallbangers. Well, I think they just

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<v Speaker 1>they say, we don't need that topachico, just pour that tequila?

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<v Speaker 1>Got you into my stomach quickly? Man? Uh So today,

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<v Speaker 1>of course we're talking about Faraday cages, Chuck. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever been in a car that was struck by lightning? Uh? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you know? I would talk about it every day.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, if you were you'd probably walk

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<v Speaker 1>around saying everything was cool because the tires are grounded. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>not not me. I wouldn't have said that. You would

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<v Speaker 1>have said that yesterday today, I would have said it before.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not true though. It's it's not the tires right,

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<v Speaker 1>No tires are made of rubber too or something like it,

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<v Speaker 1>and which is an insulator. It doesn't conduct electricity very well.

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<v Speaker 1>But if a bolt of lightning hit your car, those

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<v Speaker 1>tires are not nearly insulated enough to protect you. It's

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<v Speaker 1>actually because your car is essentially what's called a Faraday cage,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why it jibes with the topic today. That's right, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>name for Michael Faraday, the nineteenth century scientist. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even dude. Yeah that I mean, this guy was just

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<v Speaker 1>a mazing He deserves his own episode, for sure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big, I'm a big. I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>think of a funny name for a fair day fair,

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<v Speaker 1>like a fair day fair Dan, fair daddy. Oh that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good one. Fair Daddy, Fair daddy. But that implies

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<v Speaker 1>that you have kids. But you can be a fair daddy,

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<v Speaker 1>can be whatever, Sure it can be. Daddy did all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of stuff. That's right, we have the stuff you

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<v Speaker 1>should know. Army, you're the fare daddy of the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you should know. Army movie crushes, the movie crushers, And

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<v Speaker 1>I just learned today what you know. Dak Shepherd has

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<v Speaker 1>armchair expert. You know what his people are called arm

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<v Speaker 1>cherry in close? Is it really arm cherries C H

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<v Speaker 1>E R R I E s. Yeah, yeah, like Cherry,

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<v Speaker 1>you got the murder Hinos with my favorite murder. What

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<v Speaker 1>else I think this? American life fans are called middle

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<v Speaker 1>aged liberals. Very nice and that's all. No one else

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<v Speaker 1>says a nickname. No, that's it. Um. I'm sure someone

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<v Speaker 1>else has a nickname. But Faraday in the Fara Daddies,

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<v Speaker 1>which is us and no one else developed something called

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<v Speaker 1>a fair day cage on the heels of the work

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<v Speaker 1>of someone named Ben Franklin. Should we say what a

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<v Speaker 1>fair day cage is first? Or story? I think a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit? Yeah, alright, well, fair day cage can be

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<v Speaker 1>any conductor of electricity that's important that surrounds something that

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<v Speaker 1>you would like to protect from electro an electrical charge, right,

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<v Speaker 1>or it turns out also electromagnetic radiation, which is not

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. No, they're based on the same stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But electricity is a current of electrons moving through an object. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>An electromagnetic radiation or type of it is just energy

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<v Speaker 1>flowing through there. Like, he doesn't need a conductor. That's

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<v Speaker 1>really the big differentiator between the two. Yeah, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>it can be chain link, it can be wired mesh,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, it can be your car, can be

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<v Speaker 1>solid metal. We'll talk about planes later on planes technically,

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<v Speaker 1>or a kind of fair day cage, thank goodness, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it basically is there to protect what's inside and

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<v Speaker 1>has a range of applications. Now that has kind of

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<v Speaker 1>grown over the years. And the thing about a Faraday

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<v Speaker 1>cages that it's really weird. It's based on observations like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, by Ben Franklin and then really investigated by Faraday,

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<v Speaker 1>which we'll get into in a second. But it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>quite make sense because if you happen to come along

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a down power line and it's laying on

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<v Speaker 1>an aluminum fence post like the Ice Storm movie? Does

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<v Speaker 1>that happen in that movie? Oh, I gotta see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you've never seen the Ice Storm one of the

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<v Speaker 1>great movies. I know, I know, But then I go

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<v Speaker 1>through periods where I'm like, I just I want something

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<v Speaker 1>like dumb and thoughtless. Well, that's not the storm, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And you also have to wait till the winter. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't like I see, you can't PLoP down on the

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<v Speaker 1>summertime in your backyard. Now I know that's true to

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<v Speaker 1>be weird, I'm trying to think I saw something just

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<v Speaker 1>the other day that was worth watching. Oh man, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is podcast gold right here. I'll try to think

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and I'll keep I'll keep this little region

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<v Speaker 1>of my brain right here going trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what movie I just saw sometimes and then the rest

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<v Speaker 1>over here it's gonna is gonna focus on Faraday cages.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do that minds like Hummer Simpson. My thought

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<v Speaker 1>bubble just says it, dontut Oh this is this part here, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So but hold on. So um, so what were we

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that before that we were talking about movies?

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<v Speaker 1>Were uh, yes, So a Faraday cage is weird, and

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<v Speaker 1>that if you normally go up to a conductor that

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<v Speaker 1>has an electrical current running through it and you touch it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to knock you out of your shoes, like

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<v Speaker 1>the kid in Stand By Me. Basically that was a

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<v Speaker 1>train the metaphor works or the kidney ice storm. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>now I don't have to see the ice storm. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more than happens. So, um, a Faraday cage

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<v Speaker 1>is special in that it actually protects you from doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>but it uses conductors. It's not some special insulator. It

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<v Speaker 1>actually uses the very thing that should electrocute you to

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<v Speaker 1>prevent you from being electrocuted. It's yeah, the cage itself

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<v Speaker 1>is a hollow conductor, and that charge stays on the exterior.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, here, let me take that electrical load for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever is inside of me. That was it? See, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's actually the level of Ben Franklin's

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of it from what I gather Ben Franklin, he was,

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<v Speaker 1>he was on the case. He was he was sniffing

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<v Speaker 1>all over, he was, he sniffed off the case. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>In seventeen fifty five he started doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these electrical experiments. Obviously everyone knows about the kite. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>One that has to do with the fair day cages.

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<v Speaker 1>He electrified ran a current through a pint can, a

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<v Speaker 1>silver pint can. Yeah, he was always drinking pines. Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And then uh, he lowered a cork which obviously has

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<v Speaker 1>no charge, like a little cork ball attached to silk,

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<v Speaker 1>a silk string which has no you know, can't run

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<v Speaker 1>a current through that either, and he lowered it down

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<v Speaker 1>into that pint glass and it just sat there. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what what do you want? Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>it's dumb. It was a teenage corkball. It wasn't It

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<v Speaker 1>was very much a teenage cork ball, and it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do anything. But he pulled that cork ball out and

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<v Speaker 1>then dangled it beside that charge scan and it went Hotcha, Mama,

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<v Speaker 1>let me get a piece of that can Hama blessed

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<v Speaker 1>tax So it like latched on the outside of it. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I just demonstrated everybody's white. Chuck laughed, and Ben Franklin

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I have no idea what's going on here.

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<v Speaker 1>I've only just preliminarily started experimenting with electricity. This is weird.

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<v Speaker 1>And he wrote to a friend he said, I I

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<v Speaker 1>can't explain this. Maybe someday you'll be able to investigate it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you do, let me know what the deal is. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was the at least on paper, the first

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<v Speaker 1>person to really kind of notice this. It took Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Faraday a few decades later, probably about forty maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years later, to say, I really want to know

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on here, so he investigated it himself. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, if you really think about what Franklin did,

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine people out of a hundred back then would

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<v Speaker 1>have been like, who cares, what are you doing that

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<v Speaker 1>stupid cork ball? Like what is this matter? Like you're

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<v Speaker 1>hanging inside there. It doesn't do anything hanging on the

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<v Speaker 1>outside and it moves a little bit. But Franklin knew,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like this is important, Like this is this will

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<v Speaker 1>have an application? Right, So like that there in lies

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<v Speaker 1>the brilliance I think, and the beauty you have Ben Franklin,

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<v Speaker 1>that and his hair do. Of course, So Michael Faraday,

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<v Speaker 1>when he investigated it, um, he recreated the same experiment

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<v Speaker 1>very famously. UM a couple of ways. One he lined

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<v Speaker 1>as a room. He built a room basically and then

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<v Speaker 1>lined it with um foil and then applied a charge

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<v Speaker 1>to the outside and put a small child in there. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he put himself in there, and he hung out basically.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw for a couple of days in this Faraday

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<v Speaker 1>cage with an electrical current being applied to the outside

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<v Speaker 1>of it. He had a that was good for the

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<v Speaker 1>time because you, I mean, I made that joke. But

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<v Speaker 1>usually at the time it's like, how about that kitten, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you have no right that cute bunny, Let me just

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<v Speaker 1>exploit you. Um. So yeah, So he actually did it himself.

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<v Speaker 1>He remember we did that episode of famous scientists who

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<v Speaker 1>were their own guinea pigs. He could have qualified in

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<v Speaker 1>that respect for sure. But he demonstrated, Okay, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>charge in here. I'm fine, uh this this there's something

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<v Speaker 1>going on where this conductor itself is preventing the charge

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<v Speaker 1>from coming in here. That was the first one. Then

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<v Speaker 1>they follow it up again with an ice pail um,

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<v Speaker 1>which is exactly what it sounds like. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bucket. And he's very famous for his ice pail experiment,

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<v Speaker 1>basically recreated Franklin's thing. And he said, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>can explain this now. It wasn't full of ice though,

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<v Speaker 1>just to be clear. And actually there's still Faraday ice

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<v Speaker 1>pails today and they're made of wire mesh. Really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta check them out. So is that what you

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<v Speaker 1>told your Yeah, don't work. They work for like, don't work.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll work too good. So I say we take a

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<v Speaker 1>break and then come back and try to explain what

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<v Speaker 1>Faraday figured out. That sounds great, Okay, sucks. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that, you know it stuck in this. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>great name. That's the name of that. It's a great name.

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<v Speaker 1>So Michael Faraday was a brilliant man chuck in that

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<v Speaker 1>he he took Franklin's findings and said, here's what's going on. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you listen to our March twentie episode How

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<v Speaker 1>Electricity Works one, you'll you'll it was pretty intense. I

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<v Speaker 1>really listened to a lot of it. We got into

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<v Speaker 1>the weeds because that's a tough one. It is. I mean, electricity.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like a slouchy subject, you know, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is a Josh written simplified overview that is so much

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<v Speaker 1>better than that episode. I think, thanks man. And it

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<v Speaker 1>goes a little something like this. Alright, man, electricity. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got metal objects, and let's say it's a let's say

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<v Speaker 1>it's that tin can or whatever it's it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>cocaine the pine can. We'll go stick with the pine

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<v Speaker 1>Cann't know why I changed the coke can because we're

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<v Speaker 1>in the South, okay, we're from We're in Atlanta. But

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<v Speaker 1>all right, it's a pint can. They don't make cocin pints,

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<v Speaker 1>or they should, or at least the cans. What's your

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<v Speaker 1>favorite beer? I mean, I like tropically these days, it

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<v Speaker 1>comes can right, Okay, there you go. All right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I got a tall boy of tropically changed my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>changed my mind. We got younger listeners that listen, so,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also don't want to necessarily push coke on them.

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<v Speaker 1>How about, um, does does the it's a white cloth can?

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<v Speaker 1>Does um the topo Chico come in a can? Let's

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<v Speaker 1>say it does? Okay, I always have mine in a bottle,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's say it comes in a can, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>just for the sake of moving on. Alright, So you

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<v Speaker 1>got that topo cheeko can. And it is a conductor

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<v Speaker 1>of electricity, which basically means that you know, these things

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<v Speaker 1>have electrons and protons in them, and they can be

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<v Speaker 1>both positively and negatively charged. If it was always uh electric,

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<v Speaker 1>you would you'd go to pick up that topa Chico

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<v Speaker 1>and just get shocked, right it. But it's not. Itself

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't carry a charge, and an electrical charges the force.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the force of electricity. Um. When it's on the move,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a current, and a conductor allows electricity to move

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<v Speaker 1>through it. That's right, like those car tires right right now,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the uh and the it can be positive or negative.

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<v Speaker 1>It really just depends on the count of how many

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<v Speaker 1>electrons to how many protons. Has an equal number, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be neutral, obviously, it's has more protons, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a positive charge more electrons, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>negatively charged. And then if you're a conductor like that can,

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<v Speaker 1>there are lots of loose electrons flying around inside that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're free to move about and do their business. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So one way to look at an electrical current as

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<v Speaker 1>it goes from one thing through the next thing that

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<v Speaker 1>it's applied to, and it does that by exciting those

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<v Speaker 1>free electrons that are able to move. They start moving

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<v Speaker 1>and they basically carry the electrical charge through that that

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<v Speaker 1>the current through the conductor. But under normal circumstances, you

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<v Speaker 1>just got all the positively charged stuff of the negatively

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<v Speaker 1>charged stuff hanging out not doing anything. And so that's why,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're saying, you can pick up that that topo

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<v Speaker 1>Chico can and it's not going to electric It's just

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<v Speaker 1>a conductor. Right. But let's say that I was a

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<v Speaker 1>superhero with electricity. I was electron Man, and my hand

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<v Speaker 1>like carried a charge. What are the current The fans

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<v Speaker 1>of electron Man would be the electron e X electronic

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<v Speaker 1>x uh. And let's say I reach for that topo

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<v Speaker 1>Chico Can with my my electrically charged end. Then you're

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<v Speaker 1>in business because what happens then is you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>an opposite thing going on. All of those particles will separate,

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<v Speaker 1>those electrons in those protons that are normally just com

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<v Speaker 1>mingling out. Normally they're all fine under normal circumstances, but

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden they separate, and all of the

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<v Speaker 1>charge coming towards me would be the opposite, which would

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<v Speaker 1>be protons. So if you're it depends are you you

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<v Speaker 1>as as oh you're electron man, Yes, you would be

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<v Speaker 1>negatively charged for sure, Yeah, there or also just be

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<v Speaker 1>a total misnown that's right. So the protons are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be attracted to the electrons in this case, or

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<v Speaker 1>holes I saw. Electron holes is another thing that that

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<v Speaker 1>starts flowing toward a negative charge. I've never heard of

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<v Speaker 1>them before. I hadn't either, And this is called electrostatic induction.

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<v Speaker 1>When you separate out the positive from negative charge and

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<v Speaker 1>a conductor. That's right, and they're on the opposite sides

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<v Speaker 1>of that topo Chico Can. As soon as my hand

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<v Speaker 1>touches that thing exactly. Okay, so that makes a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of sense. That's basically what Ben Franklin was observing, and

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't quite figure it out. And this is what

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Faraday recreated and was able to explain that when

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<v Speaker 1>you take a charged and electrically charged external object and

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<v Speaker 1>apply it to a conductor, the opposite of whatever that

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<v Speaker 1>charges is going to go toward it. The particles that

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<v Speaker 1>are the same charge, you're going to move away from it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're repelled by it. And you have a good point

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<v Speaker 1>in here. We talk We used to talk a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about homeostasis, and that's kind of what's going on here,

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<v Speaker 1>is that those negative electrons I want to cancel out

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<v Speaker 1>that charge coming at them with my electrified hand and

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<v Speaker 1>just get back to neutral. They want to hang out

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<v Speaker 1>with the protons again exactly, So they're trying to offset

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<v Speaker 1>that positive charge with their own their own charge. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>so that the negative electrons and the positive holes I

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<v Speaker 1>guess create an electrical field on the outside, but it

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<v Speaker 1>keeps that electrical charge to the outside. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>Faraday found. It stays outside. On the inside, there is

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<v Speaker 1>no electrical charge. What doesn't quite make sense until you

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<v Speaker 1>start to dig into it a little more. And it

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<v Speaker 1>has to do with that electrostatic conduction where the positively

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<v Speaker 1>charged stuff moves to the inside, the negative stuff moves

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<v Speaker 1>to the outside, and because the inside is positively charged

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<v Speaker 1>and the positive charge is also on the outside, they

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<v Speaker 1>cancel one another out, so there is no charge on

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<v Speaker 1>the inside, right, And that's why Ben Franklin's corkball just

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<v Speaker 1>sat there, didn't do anything when you put it down

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<v Speaker 1>in there. And that's why I mean, I guess, Topo Chico,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bad example because I would have a liquid

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<v Speaker 1>in there. Well, we drank it already, all right, we

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<v Speaker 1>drank it all Yeah, we opened up that can. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a giant Topo Chico can that we are standing in

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<v Speaker 1>totally unharmed because the electrostatic current is kept outside. Because

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<v Speaker 1>here's there are a couple of things that far Day

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<v Speaker 1>figured out that a conductor does in this sense that

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<v Speaker 1>creates what we understand is a Faraday cage, and that

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<v Speaker 1>it keeps a charge from developing on the inside. Um

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<v Speaker 1>because it distributes the electric electrostatic charge just to the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>It keeps it outside, and so it acts as a shield.

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<v Speaker 1>It actually shields a charge from coming inside. So when

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<v Speaker 1>you're inside a Faraday cage, whether it's a giant topo

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<v Speaker 1>Chico cane, or your car or an airplane, you're actually

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<v Speaker 1>protected from being shocked or electrocuted by the electrical field

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<v Speaker 1>that is distributed strictly to the outside of the conductor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's this shield that that's where the application of

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<v Speaker 1>this really comes into play. Otherwise it would just be

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a fun experiment. But then humans are like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>this is actually pretty important because we can use this stuff. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>how effective that shield is h is really dependent on

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of Faraday cage you have. It can be

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<v Speaker 1>depends on the metal that you're using, and how conductive

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<v Speaker 1>it is, depends on the size of Like if it's

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<v Speaker 1>a mesh, it depends on how big the holes are.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's like your old plaster and laugh walls in

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<v Speaker 1>your house, you might realize that you don't get as

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<v Speaker 1>good as an Internet signal in one room of your

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<v Speaker 1>home that might still have that plaster and laugh. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Because so there's a second thing that Faraday cages do

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<v Speaker 1>their magic. I said, they're really weird. It doesn't make

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<v Speaker 1>any sense, but this is just what they figured out happens.

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<v Speaker 1>The second thing that it does is remember I said

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<v Speaker 1>that electro magnetic waves like radio waves, gamma waves, X rays, microwaves, Yeah, microwaves, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>those are a there. They're basically from the same family

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<v Speaker 1>as an electrical current UM. And so the Faraday cage

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<v Speaker 1>actually prevents their intrusion as well. So the second thing

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<v Speaker 1>it does is prevent these kind of waves from coming in. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And it all depends on what it's made from. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know what the size and shape of the Faraday cages,

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<v Speaker 1>right or getting out in the case of a microwave.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at that door of your microwave and

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<v Speaker 1>you see a little grid pattern, that's a fair Day cage.

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<v Speaker 1>I say we take another break and then come back

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about some real life applications in addition to

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<v Speaker 1>microwaves of fair Day cages. What do you think, let's

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<v Speaker 1>do it stuck, stuck, stuck. I don't know that you

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<v Speaker 1>know it stuck in this stuck. That's a great name.

0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.800
<v Speaker 1>That's the name of it. It's a great name. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>You got your favor Day cage, your fair Day shield,

0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:47.679
<v Speaker 1>your RF cage, radio frequency all these are just different

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<v Speaker 1>names for the same thing. Your e m F cage

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<v Speaker 1>Electromotive force cage, your KLF cage, Sure, kmf DM cage.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh what was k What was the first one? He said,

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<v Speaker 1>KLF K Yeah what was that? Was that a group,

0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:11.560
<v Speaker 1>the KLF. Yeah, but they had like one song they

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<v Speaker 1>had were one hit wonder. Basically, I think they were

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that set a million pounds on fire. I

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<v Speaker 1>bet they regret that they did. They actually held a

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<v Speaker 1>very um unsuccessful Kickstarter they that million pounds back years later.

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to make a joke and say kickstarter,

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<v Speaker 1>but they really did, Yes, they did. Um, maybe they'll

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<v Speaker 1>write us. I think it was KALF km DM, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember. It might have been KMFDM. Who was it

0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:42.600
<v Speaker 1>that we thought was writing us at one point? But

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<v Speaker 1>it was a fake Louis Bega. Yeah they got as

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<v Speaker 1>good now? Am I okay to talk about that? The

0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Loue Bega incident. It's a good band name. Jerry's over here,

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<v Speaker 1>laugh is he remembers up bigger for the Loue Bega

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<v Speaker 1>ins Like, he even uses his picture on his Twitter handle.

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<v Speaker 1>We're like, oh, well that checks, yeah, yeah, that's it's

0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:10.280
<v Speaker 1>loup Vega. He's verified the Mama number five guy. Um oh,

0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:15.119
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't even verified. That was the dopes. Such dopes.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have been talking a lot about the fair

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<v Speaker 1>day cage and what they can be used for. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that can be used for is like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say you're in a lab, in a science lab

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<v Speaker 1>and you want to conduct an experiment and a truly

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<v Speaker 1>neutral setting with no electromagnetic field at all, because nothing

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<v Speaker 1>going on. We said, these are energy waves that are

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<v Speaker 1>just flowing through the air. Just because you can't see him,

0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean they're not there. But yeah, so it can

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<v Speaker 1>affect a lot of experiment. So you might want to

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<v Speaker 1>have a fair day cage built for your science lab.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big one. If you are at a university

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<v Speaker 1>that's more than a two bit university, they're probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to have Faraday cages here there around some of their

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<v Speaker 1>labs for sure. Yeah, of course, you want to go

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<v Speaker 1>to a hospital and uh, look for a fair day cage.

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<v Speaker 1>Go take me to the m r I lab and

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<v Speaker 1>they'll say, yes, sir, click their heels together and take

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>you to see a fair day cage. Because um, that

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<v Speaker 1>either the m r I machine or possibly the room

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<v Speaker 1>that the m r I machine is in. Maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>both are outfitted with Faraday cages because for the same

0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:22.360
<v Speaker 1>reason as when you're protecting your lab, you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>the the electromagnetic radiation interfering with the data that the

0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:30.240
<v Speaker 1>m r I is taking in and screwing up the picture.

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:33.000
<v Speaker 1>And they'd be like, good lord, this guy's gotta tumor

0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:35.440
<v Speaker 1>in the size of a watermelon on its side. Oh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>we forgot to build this in a fair day cage. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not to protect. It's not like an X ray.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not to protect m r I juice from spreading

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<v Speaker 1>through the hospital. I don't know. I think it's to

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<v Speaker 1>protect the day. That definitely is, But I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>it's two fold or do But then you'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>have two fair Day cages working in opposite directions, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the universe might fold in on its off in

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<v Speaker 1>that situe. It's true I mentioned airplanes earlier as a teaser.

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<v Speaker 1>Cars don't get struck by lightning a lot, but you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be very scared to know that airplanes do get struck

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<v Speaker 1>by lightning quite a bit. I don't think I've been

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<v Speaker 1>in a plane that was struck by lightning, but I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in situations where it's possible. But this is probably

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<v Speaker 1>a really dumb question, like would it make a big

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<v Speaker 1>thunder boom right then? I don't know. I don't think

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:26.159
<v Speaker 1>that's a dumb question. That's a great question, because I

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 1>would say then you would probably know if the whole

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:33.440
<v Speaker 1>plane just went kaboom. The other way that you can

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:36.120
<v Speaker 1>tell is if you end up in an alternate universe

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:39.359
<v Speaker 1>that the Langoliers are eating. That's the other way to

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:42.200
<v Speaker 1>know your plane was struck by lightning. But the airplane

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.400
<v Speaker 1>is fine, all the equipment, all the people inside are fine.

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:48.440
<v Speaker 1>With Balki, no less. Did you ever see that? No? Okay,

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 1>it was pretty bad. What was it? It was a

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Stephen King made for TV movie starring Balki. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was bad. What was it called? The Langoliers? All right,

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean just bad. I was just because you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>funny words. Okay, that's good enough for me. As long

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>as I'm getting laughs out of you, that's all I

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>care about. Uh So, Yeah, that plane is a Faraday cage.

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<v Speaker 1>Um buildings can probably not purposely be built as a

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<v Speaker 1>fair day cage, but they can act as that. Well,

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like that that laugh, um the wire mesh laugh

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 1>that that you apply the past plaster two you're talking

0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:25.919
<v Speaker 1>about also with um poured concrete, reinforced concrete. Right, the

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:28.320
<v Speaker 1>rebar in there, if you, you know, build a large

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:32.639
<v Speaker 1>enough structure, the rebar can accidentally act as a Faraday cage.

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:38.480
<v Speaker 1>And we said, depending on what electromagnetic radiation you're trying

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>to keep out, you actually want to a tune that attenuate.

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess the size of the mesh or the grid pattern,

0:26:48.480 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 1>whatever the chain link fence, it'll keep some stuff out

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:54.439
<v Speaker 1>depending on the size of the hole being based on

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 1>the wavelength of the wave. If the wavelength is bigger

0:26:57.640 --> 0:27:00.679
<v Speaker 1>than the whole, it can actually be kept out. If

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>the wave link is smaller than the whole, then it's

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:07.400
<v Speaker 1>going to pass through fairly easily. And even if you do, um,

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>make it just right, it's still probably not going to

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 1>be a perfect Fairday cage, as evidenced in the case

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:16.639
<v Speaker 1>of a microwave. Right. Yeah, Like if you put your phone,

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 1>your cell phone in a microwave and shut the door,

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 1>don't turn it on, no, but if you just put

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 1>it in there and called it, it would probably bring Yeah,

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:30.199
<v Speaker 1>probably even though your phone operates on microwaves. Um, but

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:34.879
<v Speaker 1>you your microwave just isn't perfect. And I've seen everywhere

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:38.639
<v Speaker 1>where this explained follows up with don't worry, You're not

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 1>going to be affected by the microwave radiation. Um, Like,

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 1>there's like certain standards for leakage that have to be

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>met in the developed world if you're selling a microwave

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>or buying a microwave. So I still don't stand in

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>front of a microwave. You probably shouldn't, you know, just

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 1>in case. But then now, Chuck, we've kind of traps

0:27:57.080 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 1>into the territory where Faraday cage is have really kind

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:04.119
<v Speaker 1>of made a big appearance in the consumer market, which

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 1>is things like protecting from uh e m F allergies.

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh right, Like, um, better call Saul's brother on the show. Well,

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:20.639
<v Speaker 1>Michael McKeon is a character. He plays a character. He plays, Um,

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Saul's brother and Um, he has a allergy to electromagnetic

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:29.240
<v Speaker 1>radiation allergy or is it in his head? Well, I

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 1>mean they explore it like it's in his head, but

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.879
<v Speaker 1>they also explore it like it's you know, from his viewpoint,

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>it's happen, it's real, and it's basically the no cebo

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>effect is how I've seen it explain. But there are

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people out there, and you'll see in

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>this show where he's wearing like um, a solar blanket,

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 1>like a metallic blanket that he believes is is um

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, blocking electromagnetic radiation, everything from visible light to

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 1>radio waves, to gamma rays to X rays, all of

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>this energy flying through there. Some people believe that it

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 1>has a pernicious effect on your health. For everything I've

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>seen scientific wise says that is not the case. But

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>there's still obviously there's people who are like, no, there's

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 1>this one study once that found this and it says

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>that your cells are not happy when they're exposed radio ways,

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:19.479
<v Speaker 1>which is why I were a foil line suit whenever

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I leave the house kind of thing. And it's a

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>real it's sad. It's very sad, especially if it's not true.

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 1>It's just as sad if it is correct. These people

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 1>are suffering and nobody can help them, right, you know,

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>just like with the ham or Morgellons who said it

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>was it Fauci? Oh man? Was it that rat? Yeah?

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't know anything. Uh, should we leave that

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 1>in here? It's a joke. We'll find out. Okay, we'll see,

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 1>we'll test our own temperature. And the uh they do

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>power utility line line lines workers. Sometimes they'll have these

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>special suits and if you have an E. M f

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:01.479
<v Speaker 1>UM allergy, you probably want to get your hand. That's right. Uh,

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's how one of my granddad's died. I

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 1>think I've told that story before. He was a power

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>lineman lineman, uh not which a tall Tennessee man. I

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't know that. Yeah, he got zapped in the top

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>of a telephone polling and knocked him out to the

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>ground and it didn't immediately kill him. It is essentially

0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 1>what killed him. Yeah, how long did he linger? I

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean I was he died when I

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 1>was like five ish silently remember meeting him like once,

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 1>and he was you know, he had a hospital bed

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 1>in his house and my grandmother was a nurse, so

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 1>she basically just kind of cared for him for the

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 1>rest of his life. Oh so this wasn't like a

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 1>couple of days later like he know, he lived for

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>years after with like brain damage and uh, yeah, I

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 1>wonder how much of it was from hitting his head

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and how much of it was from the juice. Well,

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I think most of it was from the fall, but

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>if technically that's what caused the fall, so I was Yeah,

0:30:57.960 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't a very good guy. I'm not saying he

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 1>deserve that. He didn't deserve that, but yeah, he wasn't

0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 1>a good person. I got you so feel bad ish, No,

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>you don't want bad things to happen to anyone or

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe Hilter, Yeah, did Hilter do these paintings all time?

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Great man? The government they're also obviously going to protect

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 1>sensitive equipment. Uh, they're going to build special rooms. Yes, yes,

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 1>because here's the thing. If you are afraid of electromagnetic

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>radiation going through you and you're trying to keep it out,

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 1>you can also keep electromagnetic radiation from escaping. Yeah, Like,

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 1>if you want to tell sensitive secret ers and sensitive documents,

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have a special room in the White House

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>or the Pentagon that is tricked out to to shield, uh,

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 1>to keep anyone from listening in. Basically, it has essentially

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>a reverse Faraday cage keeps the electromagnetic radiation from leaking out,

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>which sounds like who cares if electromagnetic radiation leaks out

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 1>from a computer? Screen or um, you know, the an

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 1>ethernet cable or something like that. It turns out you

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>can actually tell you can gain information from capturing this

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 1>leakage and converting it into data. Yeah, what was the

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>guy with the I mean, this is a little scary

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 1>considering what's going on in this country right now. But

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>was it in Holland? It is I'm not really scared

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 1>by this. I think it kind of goes to show

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 1>just how yeah, far fetched, it's excellent, Chuck far fetched.

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 1>The guy named rock gun Grip, who is a Dutch

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 1>computer expert. That's how you say Dutch names, by the way, Um, like,

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>you have no idea what you're talking about. Uh, he uh,

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 1>figured out that you can electronically eaves drop or electromagnetically

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 1>eaves drop on the voting machines that they were using

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>in the Netherlands. Um. And he showed that he could

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 1>gather the refresh rate, or he could determine that the

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>refresh rate on the computer screen slowed down when a

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 1>name that had an accent or a special character was

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>being displayed, and he was able to take this leakage

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 1>from like or something like that from these voting machines

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 1>converted into a sound. And when somebody from the Christian

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Democrat is Appeal party and the e has an accent

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 1>over it was voted for, the tone actually changed. That's interesting.

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 1>So he could say they got one vote or something

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 1>like that, but not manipulate that vote. No, but I

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>could see in this country that story being dug up

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 1>and used, you know, right by dummies for sure. But

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 1>the point is that this guy can do something like that.

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>You can bet that like a very well to do

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 1>state that wanted to electromagnetically eaves job could probably glean

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 1>some pretty import and stuff. So, yes, you probably do

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 1>want to put your most sensitive conversations government state secrets

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 1>in a Faraday cage enclosed room. But the average person's

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>vote is not going to be you know, in jeopardy

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 1>by rope going grip. You know, I read about this

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>guy from Holland or the Netherlands or someplace like that.

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:28.399
<v Speaker 1>Who's that Alec Baldwin. Yeah it was Alec Baldwin. I'll

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:30.799
<v Speaker 1>tell you who else might have Some Faraday cages are

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>like preppers, survivalists, They probably have Faraday cage or two.

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>They may be homemade hate rope gone grip. Yeah, I

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 1>can't stand that guy. No, but that's they worry that

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:45.839
<v Speaker 1>um of electromagnetic pulses, which we talked a lot about

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 1>in the space Weather episode. You remember we I mean

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:51.799
<v Speaker 1>we said like, if if one of these things didn't

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 1>happen from space weather or from a bad actor um

0:34:55.960 --> 0:35:00.879
<v Speaker 1>one of the others, uh, you can really lose all

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>of your electronics, which is another reason people build fair

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>day cages, not just keep out or keep their their

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>their own electronics from leaking information, from keeping electronic um

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:14.280
<v Speaker 1>uh noise from coming in and disrupting their own stuff.

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 1>If a big one hit, it could just blow your

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 1>circuits right out the human body. Your electronics they're designed

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 1>to use and run on electricity, but only a certain amount.

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 1>When you overload that amount that the system tends to fail.

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's why survivalists and preppers believe in things like

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Faraday cages to protect their equipment. Right. The problem is

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 1>when you take it out and use it, if space

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 1>weather actually happened, right, then your fair day cage is

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>useless because you're outside of it. Yeah, and I guess

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 1>if you're really uh, sort of paranoid and have a

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of money, you can have your home. There's this

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 1>place called Holland Shielding that makes a wallpaper with copper

0:35:57.600 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 1>woven into it to prevent someone from eavesdropping on you.

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I also saw there's something called mew metal and it's

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 1>like an iron nickel alloy that works really well for

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 1>that too. I gotta coming over next week. That's awesome

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:13.320
<v Speaker 1>and put that all over my house. Are you prepping

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 1>these days? I'm prepping for a nap than fluffing that pillow? Yeah? Yeah?

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 1>What else? A little warm milk. I've been able to

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:25.760
<v Speaker 1>nap a little bit these days. It's good. I still can't.

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:29.799
<v Speaker 1>I still can't. Nope. Do you try every once in

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:32.839
<v Speaker 1>a great while? And now, can you mean nap? Noah,

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:36.360
<v Speaker 1>we're not nappers. Yeah, I I enjoy a nap. Have

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of embraced the the true siesta. Like you know,

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I get up really early, I stay up really late.

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't get a lot of sleep at night, but

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll try and get a thirty minute nap in at

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 1>some point and it's working pretty well. What do you

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:54.480
<v Speaker 1>do at night? I mean, that's my time. When you

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 1>got a little kid, that's like once they go to bed,

0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 1>You're like, that's your time? How late, you stay up,

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 1>and Ry he's nodding, Uh, you know, I'll stay up.

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean it depends. I'll go through phases where I'm

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:09.759
<v Speaker 1>in bed at ten thirty, but usually I'm a midnight man.

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 1>It's what I like to call. And then on the

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:14.880
<v Speaker 1>weekends that stretches into like one am. What time do

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>you get up? I usually get up around six thirty

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:21.839
<v Speaker 1>or seven. Ye wake up six thirty or seven. So yeah,

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm about a six hour a night guy. Maybe a

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes you need. Yeah, I think we talked about it.

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>You're getting up early these days. I get crazy emails

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 1>from you, and so early in all cats. Yeah, I know.

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I actually try very hard to be cognizant of what

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm emailing you early in the morning because I know

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:43.959
<v Speaker 1>it might be some of the first stuff you see,

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 1>and I don't want it to be like, hey, we

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>gotta do this, this guy is falling. I've been good

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:51.319
<v Speaker 1>about the not opening my email though till to work

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 1>hours and then shutting it down. You know. That's Jerry

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 1>had to talk with me once where she's like, I

0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you should email people on the weekends

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:01.920
<v Speaker 1>in the evenings or whatever. I'm like, what do you mean?

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>And then I stopped and thought, I was like totally.

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 1>So I've adopted that as well as best Like what

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 1>you do? You just make a note email dumb, dumb

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:14.440
<v Speaker 1>at nine am on Monday. Sure, so I use the

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 1>drafts folder. Now, okay, I just don't send it. Yeah,

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:20.719
<v Speaker 1>or do that? Don't even make a note. I don't

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 1>even need to know. This is like an extra superfluous step.

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I write the email, I just don't send it. I

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 1>leave it in the draft. That is very smart. So

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 1>you want to wrap this up, yeah, let's wrap it up. Well,

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 1>if you want to know more about fairy day cage,

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 1>just go check your car out. Uh And since I

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:40.840
<v Speaker 1>said that, it's tempt the listener, ma'am. Oh wait, wait,

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:44.400
<v Speaker 1>there's one other thing, Chuck. If you are have a

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 1>car and it's a convertible, look out, it doesn't have

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 1>a fairy day cage. You're very susceptible to lightning, which

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 1>is another explanation for why your tires don't actually save you.

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 1>Because if you're in a convertible car, it's not a

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 1>fair day cage. So your toast all right, no listener mail,

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this the next email in my inbox,

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 1>And this is actually good because rarely do we read

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<v Speaker 1>uh suggestions for episodes on the air, But this is

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<v Speaker 1>a good one, and I think we're gonna want to

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<v Speaker 1>do this because it also ties in with today's episode. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>today's special. Hey guys riding in with the topic proposition.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would fit perfectly to what you're doing. Eels.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a great idea, electrical eels. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I ever would have thought about that, I probably wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see who this is. This is um Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Michael from Poland. Michael says that it no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael goes on to say they're just incredible creatures. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was mind blowing to me when I discovered that

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<v Speaker 1>we still do not know much about them. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever eaten meal like sushi? Of course? Yeah, I buy

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<v Speaker 1>that at the Japanese market and cook it at home.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you do yourself, huh, you just bake it in

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<v Speaker 1>the oven. Still delicious. There's not much to look at

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<v Speaker 1>the foyer. They taste good. Uh. Freud, before going into psychoanalysis,

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<v Speaker 1>studied eels trying to find their reproductive system, a feat

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<v Speaker 1>not yet achieve. For thousands of years, all European eels

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<v Speaker 1>come from one place, the Sargasso Sea. Eels travel thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of miles after their born. I just wouldn't I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to read the parenthetical. Eels travel thousands of miles

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<v Speaker 1>after they were born to the lakes wells in Europe

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<v Speaker 1>and then come back when they feel they're ready to

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<v Speaker 1>undergo metamorphosis and reproduce. Let me see what else. For

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<v Speaker 1>many years people thought they were observing different species of eels,

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<v Speaker 1>but in fact they were the same eels at just

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<v Speaker 1>different stages of their life. But so we basically did

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<v Speaker 1>a mini episode on eels with special guests Michael sort of.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael also sens a New Yorker article a book called

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<v Speaker 1>the Book of Eels, says, ps, I love what you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing and how you're making interesting topics approachable with your

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<v Speaker 1>great and easy going attitude. Keep it up. All the

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<v Speaker 1>best from Poland. I hope I can see live one day.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's from Macao. I would definitely go to Poland

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<v Speaker 1>for a show. I would too, Yeah, cool, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>been to Poland. I have anything, let's do it close

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<v Speaker 1>as I've been is Hungary. Yeah, same here you've been hungry? Sure? Great?

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<v Speaker 1>Which side did you stay on? We stayed on the

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<v Speaker 1>pest side, but we you know, went back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>We also went to that um, that Turkish bath that

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of Red Heat was filmed in. Okay, it's

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<v Speaker 1>really awesome. I don't remember which side I stayed on,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, it was so many years ago, so

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<v Speaker 1>the left or the right? I remember? You don't remember now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I mean, this was thirty years ago. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty seven years ago. This was two fifteen, I

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<v Speaker 1>think from me, I was drunk on bulls blood wine.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that you're talking about. Yeah, it's very cheap. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Either you told me about that before or else I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it myself. I don't think I tried it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks a lot, Michael, Michael um And that was a

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<v Speaker 1>great idea in an EELS episode will be forthcoming one day.

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