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Speaker 1: I never told you a production of iHeartRadio, and today

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Speaker 1: of the show and I r L friend, Lauren Vogel

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Speaker 1: Ba Lauren, thank you. Yeah, so good to be here. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you've been on the show before. Samantha has joined us

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Speaker 1: over on the show, Lauren and I co host Saver.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm sure the listeners know about us by now,

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Speaker 1: but it's always exciting when we get to like cross

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Speaker 1: the streams as they say, oh yeah, yes, which is

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Speaker 1: a different movie we're not talking about today. But when

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Speaker 1: we were hanging out recently and just chatting, we were

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Speaker 1: talking about Possible said you could come on, and we

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Speaker 1: were talking about how we have this feminist movie Friday

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Speaker 1: segment we do every month, and we were trying to

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Speaker 1: choose a movie, and you were like, die Hard? Can

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Speaker 1: I come on and talk about die Hard?

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Speaker 2: Because we were like to Christmas movies die Hard. I

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Speaker 2: was like, oh, this debate here we go.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I know that this is a meme now,

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Speaker 3: but genuinely, like growing up, my dad and I would

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Speaker 3: watch two movies every year for Christmas and it would

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Speaker 3: be White Christmas and die Hard.

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Speaker 1: That's a very.

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Speaker 2: Very two ex extreme movies.

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Speaker 3: This actually probably says more about my personality that I'm

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Speaker 2: That makes sense. So like you are the cutest, like

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Speaker 2: like the like elvish type person that I've ever met,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, she is that perfect mix. So there it is.

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Speaker 2: There makes so much sense.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nothinging feet and beautiful costume. Yeah that's right, beautiful costume. Yes,

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Speaker 3: always smiling even when it's bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, even when you're.

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Speaker 2: Telling me something you hate, you're still smiling.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, it's I That's that's what makes

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Speaker 4: Sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean honestly, that could almost be the slogan of

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Speaker 2: Though we're crying. Yes.

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Speaker 1: But the interesting thing, because we all watched this smoothe

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Speaker 1: to prepare, I had only seen it. I saw it

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Speaker 1: after college. This the first time I saw it, and

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. But last night I was watching

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Speaker 1: it and I was like, you know, I do feel

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Speaker 1: that they captured the fear I have around holiday parties.

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Speaker 2: That is fair. I felt like it was very night eighties.

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Speaker 2: It was like that, like they encompassed the eighties corporate

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Speaker 2: party of what we think about today. I'm like, for sure,

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Speaker 2: like there're so many You're like, dare it is? Yeah, yep,

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Speaker 2: just the whole added plus. But yeah, I'm with you. Annie.

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Speaker 2: I actually did not watch this until way after college

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Speaker 2: and so I've never watched I don't think I've ever

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Speaker 2: we're doing uh Christmas viewing and it was Elf and

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Speaker 2: I ended up going to a group watching these two

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Speaker 1: Well, I think I do have a point I want

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Speaker 1: I do think there's been a surge of much recent

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Speaker 3: iHeart podcasts, but.

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Speaker 1: Woof yeah hoof. Indeed, Samantha and I, I think we've

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Speaker 1: office holiday party where you're like, I don't know why

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Speaker 1: definitely tapped into that. But Lawrence, since you are expert,

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Speaker 3: So, So Diehard is a movie about this New York

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is nineteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 1: It is not cool.

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Speaker 3: Real racist, yeah, hyper violent, but yeah, is that is

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Speaker 3: Yeah goes goes and threatens they're they're probably racist caricature nanny, yes,

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Speaker 1: Perfect eighties German villains.

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Speaker 2: They're all well still kind of all the like even

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Alan rick been doing that German accent, I.

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Speaker 3: Which is very which is very smart, like that they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they bounce around, but in the end

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you're kind of illoilling? Are you

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Speaker 2: That you just keep killing?

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Speaker 2: Right, And can we talk about him just throwing a

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Speaker 3: I love how he just like his car kind of

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Speaker 1: It's like, whoa.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, mister Winslow, you have a concussion. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: What is happening? I also love that the nine one

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that too.

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Speaker 3: They're like proof just a prank, the old holiday prank

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Speaker 1: Terrorist attack and shoot some gun.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's both pro law enforcement and then a cap

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Speaker 1: Like it's an interesting Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes the ending.

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Speaker 1: As we said, yes, that was a strange. Yeah. Another

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Speaker 1: But in this it's much more like, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: He uses violence to protect his wife and then they reconnect.

438
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,239
Speaker 3: Is such a huge trope, like that whole idea of

439
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 3: the absent father during the holidays.

440
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, mm hmmm mm hmmmm hm.

441
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 3: He does bring a bear for his like a big

442
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 3: stuffed teddy bear for his kid.

443
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's funny because he does it. As you said, Lauren,

444
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 1: he's very salty about it coming to he's coming to

445
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 1: the holidays. He does have that line where he's like,

446
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: oh wow, where he's like unless she's signing the checks,

447
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: talking about his wife taking her maiden name back. Yeah. Yes,

448
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: but it's just interesting to me that that is such

449
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: a big trope right in these things.

450
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's another trope that we didn't hit on.

451
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: But like this immediate sexual harassment, yes, that Holly has

452
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 2: to experience from the coworker who ends up being a

453
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 2: coked out like kind of a hero. Like you're like,

454
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: what is he doing? I don't understand what's happening here,

455
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 2: and we mean coaked down in two different ways because

456
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: he also has a coke as he could get shot,

457
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: which is lovely. I guess at least he gave him

458
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: a refreshment.

459
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: Coca Cola.

460
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 3: It's like, yes, that's definitely how we wanted our product

461
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 3: to be used.

462
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: Silo was like, what the hell? But yeah, the having

463
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 2: the immediate like sexual harassment and then you're thinking maybe

464
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: they're having an affair for a split second because you

465
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on. Then you oh, he's just

466
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: harassing her to like, and then he's also somehow mocking

467
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,719
Speaker 2: the husband. Yeah slash you know, Bruce.

468
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a it's a really negative portrayal of

469
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 3: that type of eighties masculinity, which I appreciate. The movie

470
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 3: for doing like I like like it's played, it's played

471
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 3: for laughs, and he is shown to be several times

472
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 3: over a moron and uh, and so I kind of

473
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 3: love it, Like I kind of love having that caricature

474
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 3: in there.

475
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: Well, I do love that there's because this is like

476
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: your mom dude bro and competent guy. Yeah, you can imagine.

477
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: He's rude to his boss, he's doing cocaine at work,

478
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: he's having sex with a coworker. He's like the worst dude,

479
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: but he thinks he's so competent. And when he goes in.

480
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: To like negotiate, yeah, because he tries to take control

481
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 3: of the whole hostage situation.

482
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: While Holly is like, don't do it, man, he goes

483
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: in to do it and he's so he has like

484
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 1: the most white guy confidence I've ever seen. He's just like, oh,

485
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: I've got and then immediately is killed. But like and

486
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: they after being giving up this very important information that

487
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 1: makes the whole situation worse. But he does it so confidently,

488
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: so confidently, but it's painted. It's painted as a very

489
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: as the audience were supposed to be like, oh this guy,

490
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: which I appreciate.

491
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: To I think they also made him seem like he

492
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: was gonna betray like he did say a stupid thing,

493
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: but he didn't actually portray the wife like you thought

494
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: he was gonna go in there and be like, you know,

495
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: that's so and so she brought him because it's her husband. Whatever.

496
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 2: He was smart enough to realize not to say that part.

497
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: So you kind of like they gave him a redeeming arc,

498
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: but his stupidity. I don't know if they were trying

499
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: to get a little sympathy for him, Yeah, but it

500
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: was like, what what are you holding your breast?

501
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: Worst?

502
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 2: He's not great, but he's not the worst.

503
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: Good not good? Right, Yeah, we've already kind of talked

504
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: about this for a second, but I didn't want to

505
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 1: come back to you know, watching this, I was like,

506
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: this male friendship is happening here, and you don't, yeah,

507
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: too often, you don't, you don't.

508
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, John and Al really make a connection over their

509
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: walkie talkies. They're they're talking about, you know, like it

510
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: comes out that right that that Al about to have

511
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 3: his first kid, and they're like talking about their children

512
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: and their family life, and uh.

513
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: It's sweet, Yeah it is. And it's kind of funny

514
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: how it's done. It's parsonoy that feels sort of silly

515
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: where they're like hey man, yo man, Like it's very

516
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: kind of very macho, but it it is like they

517
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,479
Speaker 1: actually do talk about some serious and they do bond

518
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: and I don't know. I was kind of like, oh,

519
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: this is because I feel like that can happen in

520
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: these action movies. But a lot of times at the

521
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: end it's sort of you good man, and then they

522
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: are like all, oh no, I'll never see you again,

523
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: or like let's forget that ever happens.

524
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: Still, like this is part of the beginning of the

525
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: White Men, Black Man's Sidekick. Oh yeah, because we see

526
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: that with lethal weapon and all of that, Like I

527
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: wonder if that was supposed to be. I think you

528
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: kind of had that with the limo driver, which is

529
00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 2: just absently they are to get all the chilling and

530
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: you know, not worrying about a thing.

531
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 3: I mean, our guyle is down, Like our guyle is there.

532
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 3: John McClain, he's like, he's like, I really hope this

533
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: works out for you and your lady. I'm gonna stay

534
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 3: and like party out on in this limo.

535
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 2: Okay, what is this job that he could just wait

536
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: for someone I get like, I know he wasn't paid

537
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: by the corporation because a part of this was that

538
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: they didn't know if he was coming, right, he left

539
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: everybody in limbo, and then the company's like, I'm gonna

540
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: get you a fancy limo to come to the office.

541
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: Because this makes sense.

542
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: He has a line when he's on the car phone

543
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 3: because there's a phone and it's very fancy when he's

544
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: on the phone in the car with a buddy and

545
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,479
Speaker 3: he's he's like, nah, man, like my boss thinks I'm

546
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: in Las Vegas right now.

547
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: The little confusion of this job.

548
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: At the end, he picks up John and Holly just

549
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: drive away through this robbly.

550
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: Like after he rails a whole vehicle, takes a couple

551
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: of people out, and then.

552
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 4: It's just like destroyed building and he's driving through the

553
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 4: l As he's kissing me, he's like, I can't wait

554
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 4: for New Year's that big line little Christmas looks like

555
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 4: I can't wait.

556
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: I want to be here for New Years, which is hysterical.

557
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: But going back to the friendship, Okay, yeah, yeah, can

558
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: you the fact that John McClain tells everything on this

559
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: radio that everybody has access to like, I'm the most

560
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: confused person. I'm like, you don't want to give the name,

561
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: but you're giving all this information that you have a kid,

562
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: Like that's just a pretty big like don't tell people

563
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: like only they're all sharing a line like he's like, oh,

564
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: what the hell is happening?

565
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: Like this says it seemed like.

566
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: A smart part of the plot. I'm getting Am'm not

567
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: getting this.

568
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: And maybe there's like a cut scene where he was like, Hans,

569
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: can you go to channel two? I really have to

570
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 3: talk about my kids. I'm having an emotional moment and

571
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 3: you're toxic for me. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry pulling glass

572
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: out of my feet right now.

573
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: So I gotta tell them about what building I'm in

574
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: and we have what floor I'm on, and what am

575
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: I about to do? Don't you worry, I'm not I'm

576
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: not up here on the roof.

577
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: Don't worry. Definitely not on the roof. All right, talk

578
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: to you.

579
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: I couldn't get past that. I was like, why does

580
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: he keep telling he knows they're on this? Oh my god.

581
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: I mean in the end, that wasn't how he got outed.

582
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: But still that's true.

583
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: That's true.

584
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: But you know, and when they when they see at

585
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 3: the end, when they see each other like like soft lens,

586
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: like through like the smoke of the building.

587
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: Being on fire, caress the yeah.

588
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and like the slow like they don't even

589
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 3: have to say a word, they just know who they

590
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 3: know that this is their like long lost buddy.

591
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like that they slowly come together. Yeah, because

592
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: like he's already got his wife. Yeah. It looks like

593
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: they're slow mow walking each other to each other in

594
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: the fog, like through the crowd of people as a

595
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: separate the crowd separates, and I'm like, this is isn't

596
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: this supposed before the wife like.

597
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they like bigle giggle together and then

598
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: embrace and yes, so nice, right.

599
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: It is nice. It is well, but it threw me

600
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: off to like what is going on? There's some holerodic

601
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: context here, and you know what you do?

602
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: You just dudes being brows man, Yeah, just just dudes.

603
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: Being brows Oh wow, speaking of I did want to mention

604
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: not being bros. But I do find it interesting in

605
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: a lot of these action movies that are mostly men

606
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: where but not always where there's like the dude ego

607
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: part of it where the dude villain is always like, oh,

608
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: he's mine. If they have just not done that, then

609
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: I think would have been worked out well for the terrorists.

610
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: But he's like, no, right, right, he's mine.

611
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: And also again they have to semi automatic weapons. They're

612
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: just randomly shooting. How do you know it's yours? Like

613
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: at this point, you're just shooting up everything, dude. Yeah,

614
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: you would go for the glass and went everywhere.

615
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I the one who's going after him, Carl,

616
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: because he killed his brother right and wrote a rude

617
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: message on her shirt in his own blood, So that's

618
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 3: you know, I mean dropped it from into an elevator,

619
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 3: Like I would be pissed as well.

620
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure.

621
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: Now I've got a machine gun. Ho ho ho.

622
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, like, if I got a message like that,

623
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: I'd be like, this guy is crazy.

624
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: I'm out right, like he's playing with dead body instead

625
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: of just leaning it. What he threw a dead body

626
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: out the window? Anybody else just like.

627
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 3: And so they do it in New York, Man, I

628
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: don't know, I'm not sure. I don't think that's how

629
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 3: you in New York. I could be wrong.

630
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: New Yorkers, mad, We don't throw dead bodies? How dare you? Yeah,

631
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: the whole thing, like I do love it isn't quite entertaining.

632
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: It was two hours and twelve minutes long. I'm like,

633
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: oh my.

634
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: God, that's a very hour.

635
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: Like I mean, we've come back to that now. I

636
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: think we're short just backtrack and being like, okay, let's

637
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: do this less. But like the entirety as we set

638
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: up and seeing the explosions everywhere are and my question

639
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: of like how did that survive? How did this go?

640
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: Why are they doing? Like so many questions I get

641
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: like Willing's suspension of disbelief for a Darling Christmas movie

642
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: as is, but there's so much of like, wow, eighties,

643
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: did we really think this was okay?

644
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think that they really they really

645
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: wanted to develop Hans Gruber's concept out, you know, because

646
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 3: it turns out that right, he's not. He sells himself

647
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: as a terrorist. I was there for ideological reasons, but

648
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 3: it turns out he just wants money. There's just a

649
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: bunch of like bonds or something in the vault, and

650
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: and so so that that's kind of the twist that like, oh,

651
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: like this this dude is not actually an ideological villain.

652
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 1: He's just a thief, right.

653
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: There's no real reason. And six million dollars was like,

654
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 2: there's ten of them, ten of them, So I'm like,

655
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 2: you're not even going to get a million dollars.

656
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 3: I think I think it was sick. I think there

657
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: was six hundred million. Oh yeah, but sure.

658
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

659
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 2: Still in the end, that's not like what that's not

660
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: like it's you know what I'm saying, like to do

661
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: that amount of damage, right, And apparently they planned this

662
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: to the core. Yeah, and they had always ended to

663
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 2: kill them.

664
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, like thirty hostages.

665
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: For that amount of money is like, that seems silly.

666
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: You've never played D and D.

667
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: Apparently I've never really wanted to rob anybody either, So

668
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: there's that. I guess both of those things.

669
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 3: You know, he clearly he's got a very nice suit.

670
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: He clearly has good tastes. He did talk to you know,

671
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: keep up those subscriptions to Forbes or whatever.

672
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: That's fair yead. Oh my gosh, I read it in

673
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: the Forbes.

674
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: He said, yes, of course we have to do some

675
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: Alan Rickman love oh see, being the ultimate bad guy.

676
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 2: I really I did not correlate him from the past

677
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: like obviously to see him in that, you're like, oh, he's.

678
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's so slick and so funny, and and the

679
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 3: and and the character is portrayed as being super smart,

680
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: which I which I love, and very ginger. He's also

681
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 3: I don't think he's ginger anywhere else. Ever, the Auburn

682
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 3: Red was in and then it was yeah, it was

683
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, but but but also like notably like does

684
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 3: not like because eventually he takes Holly hostage and no

685
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: threats of sexual violence, zero, nothing like that at all,

686
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 3: which that was a like for like nineteen eighty eight.

687
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm really impressed. I'm like, heck yeah, heck yeah.

688
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: No trying to take off clothes, no chin to any

689
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: of them.

690
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 3: I'm like, uh yeah yeah, Like I mean like in

691
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: the heat of everything, like you kind of like like

692
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: her shirt is like a little bit open, like you

693
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: still like a quarter of a boob, but it's like

694
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: not even really played up that hard. But yeah, no,

695
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: I I Alan Rickman, You're too good.

696
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: You're too good for us, right.

697
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: I will say again, I'm trying to do the American accent.

698
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 2: I'm glad I've never heard him trying to do that again,

699
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: Like I don't. I don't know if there's other movies

700
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: that he does, but I was like why it.

701
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: Was very bad. It was also very bad and.

702
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: Also it took me. I forgot the whole like plot

703
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: that ris Willa's characters. John mcclayon knows that he's not

704
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: this hostage. He does know that, but he's playing along

705
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: with them. But as you're trying to figure it out,

706
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: like how do you know recog nicest voice like John

707
00:37:55,040 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 2: Alan Rickman has the most distinct voice ever, and then

708
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 2: also his pauses like I guess I probably have some

709
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: annunciation stuff as well. You know that you're like share,

710
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: we all do, but his is so specific that I'm like,

711
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: come on.

712
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: I think I think he didn't immediately know that he

713
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 3: wasn't a hostage, but he wasn't going to give a

714
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 3: loaded gun to someone that he didn't know. Yeah smart, smart, yes,

715
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: but yeah, and especially like I and I do love,

716
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: I do love the way that like this very again

717
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 3: like very slick, very eighties kind of power suit villain

718
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: is put up against John McLean, you know, who's like

719
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 3: running around in like a in like a tank top

720
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 3: and no shoes the entire movie. He eventually loses the

721
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 3: tank top.

722
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: He does, so I was like, wait, he does so so.

723
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: Much to that. I was like, okay, I know again,

724
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: I have not watched this, so I can't appreciate it

725
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: in his heyday because when you have him backed on

726
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: a film, you're like, oh, okay, I get it. Yeah,

727
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: you don't get it truly truly get it. But I

728
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 2: was like, what didn't decide he doesn't need shoes? Like

729
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: that was such an early on lot that I was like,

730
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: why I love that.

731
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 3: I love this about this movie actually because like it's

732
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 3: a way of showing vulnerability and like salt of the earthiness,

733
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 3: which is a really important.

734
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: Part of the character.

735
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 3: And uh and like really putting him at a disadvantage,

736
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 3: like every possible disadvantage against these very you know, well

737
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 3: healed like literally well healed villains and then putting him

738
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 3: up against that.

739
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: I love that. I love how like American exceptionalism.

740
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 3: It is, yes, and yeah, how very very nineteen eighties. Yes,

741
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 3: I also I have to admit y'all that like that

742
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 3: like like shirtless, bleeding John McClain and really slick suited

743
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 3: Alan Rickman Man, Like I watched this movie at an

744
00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 3: impressionable age okay, and like both of those tropes of

745
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: inappropriately informed my sexuality.

746
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: Another ship, I bet Oh my god.

747
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure I need you to do some research any.

748
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 4: Fix, I'm ready, Oh my gosh.

749
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: Oh. But yeah, like it's just really playing with ideas

750
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 3: of masculinity. I genuinely like like rewatching this film and

751
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: you know, like I was a little bit biased because

752
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: I knew I was about to come talk to y'all

753
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: about it, but I was like, this, this movie is

754
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: explicitly about changing gender norms and the changing views of

755
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 3: masculinity that were going on during this time period. And

756
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 3: then everything blows up.

757
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: It's great.

758
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 3: It's everything I want in a film.

759
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean I really enjoyed it. I will

760
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: say also, we've talked about this before both on Saver

761
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: and a Speak Team, but this was also when the

762
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: US was really panicked about japan access. So just like

763
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: the whole nectumb Plaza and all that stuff that that

764
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: was a big thing that was happening during the eighties.

765
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: For sure. I also wanted to talk about the tech

766
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: just for fun, yes, because you know, I love talking

767
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: about older technology. I love all of the stuff in

768
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: the limo, Like you've got the CD, the VCR, he says.

769
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: He says, the.

770
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 3: Old timey like check in device, touch screen, like touch screen,

771
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 3: check and device.

772
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: Let's going to tell you how to piss or hold

773
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: like hold hold it while you piss. That's what he said.

774
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: That's how he learned, Like the villain's learned. She's changed,

775
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 1: Holly changed her name. Oh. I just love stuff like this.

776
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: I love looking back and.

777
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and all the like state of the art computer

778
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 3: graphics are going on.

779
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: The riding out of the coming out, I was like,

780
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: oh my god, we're in it now.

781
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 3: There's also Yeah, there's there's a few other moments in

782
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: that movie where I'm like, we are really in nineteen

783
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: eighty eight, Like gas is seventy four cents a gallon, yes, yeah,

784
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: And he's like smoking in an airport yea, in the car.

785
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: In the car he's like open carrying a gun and

786
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 3: a holster under his jacket at the airport.

787
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is happening in this fill Oh so

788
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: strange to look at it now it is it is that.

789
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that kind of stuff. I

790
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: did also want to mention, speaking of tropes, the holiday

791
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: trope is like the part of the whole plot of

792
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: the holiday trip, the holiday party trope. It's sort of

793
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: a whole plot point in this. And I have to say, again,

794
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: looking back at the holiday movies I watch every year,

795
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: that is a common theme. The holiday party never goes well.

796
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: It's it causes something usually not good. Is I mean,

797
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: I guess it's like a it makes sense, the getting

798
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: all the people together in one place and the drama

799
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: and all of that will unfold, whether it is at

800
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: the party, whether it's when you get home. And they're like,

801
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 1: wait for sure, but I do find that.

802
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 3: Interesting, sure, Sheriff's I mean, you know, you could also

803
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: make an argument that it's you know, kind of trying

804
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 3: to talk about the psychological stress of that kind of environment.

805
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: Spin it out into a more you know, interesting story. Then,

806
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 3: like I was pit sweating a little, like that's not good.

807
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: That's not a good movie. No, but well it depends, okay,

808
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 3: depends on the pit swhich I guess.

809
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: I suppose you're right. I hadn't even thought of that

810
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: thing to worry about. I did, like, unfortunately, I do

811
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: think like the creeper hitting on you at work at

812
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: a holiday party is a pretty a not uncommon experience

813
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: and not necessarily in our office parties, but I've certainly

814
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: been to somewhere I was like, okay, yeah, yeah, and

815
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: she immediately is dealing with that. Yeah yes, but then finally, yeah,

816
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: I just wanted to end on this trend that I

817
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: feel like Diehard was really tapping into that feeling that

818
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: is causing this trend of like kind of the anti

819
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: holiday movie holiday movie that's like, yeah, it has all

820
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: the decor, has Christmas lights as Christmas saying, it even

821
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: has like music, but it's not a darker then like

822
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: it does. It does have some regular songs, but like

823
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: the actual like orchestra behind some of the scenes is

824
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: just kind of darker notes of Christmas tuos.

825
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: A very eighties action movie. Yeah, Like there it is.

826
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: There's the all of the synthesizers in the background, like

827
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 2: waiting for something to happen for two and.

828
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: A half hours.

829
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if it Like, I mean, I'm sure

830
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:17,959
Speaker 2: there was already films like this for holidays as well.

831
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 2: Also it's probably the beginning of where it's like it's

832
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: just based on the like guess just takes place and

833
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: not necessarily meant to be a Christmas movie. We know,

834
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: White Christmas obviously a Christmas movie. Sure Elf obviously, Yeah,

835
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 2: Christmas Vacation obviously a Christmas movie. But then you have

836
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: movies like this, and once upon a time, like I

837
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 2: was talking about how I would watch and Don't any longer,

838
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: but like Harry Potter would be a part of that

839
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: Christmas movie, even though it's not like there's only one

840
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: scene where it's Christmas. But yet for some reason, that

841
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 2: was enough for the whimsy of and I.

842
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: Right, And I can't remember whether it was just like

843
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: a like a like it felt warm and familial and

844
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 3: that was the Christmas vibe or did they come out

845
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: around Christmas originally, and so it kind of got ingrained

846
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: into our brains that it was a Christmas thing, or.

847
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: I know, it was like doing the fall Christmas era, right,

848
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: most of the times.

849
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: That came out, the first ones came out November November,

850
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 3: and then a lot of the other ones came out

851
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 3: middle of summer.

852
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, okay, so maybe that's the beginning. I

853
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 2: never got into it till later, But all that to

854
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: say is like it kind of brought that in, and

855
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: then you have that climax of like, let's make these

856
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: movies on Christmas Day, but not necessarily about Christmas. There's

857
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: a couple more that I can think of, but I

858
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: wonder like also movies like did y'all see Violent Night,

859
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: which is supposed to be Santa against the terrorists essentially

860
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: puns all the puns, and it's kind of like, for

861
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: some reason the follow the two of them were similar

862
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 2: enough in my head that I was like, there's something

863
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: very familiar about this plane. Yeah.

864
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: I think a part of it too, is like we've

865
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: talked about this all the time on on the podcast,

866
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: off the podcast, But like, when I think about why

867
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: like horror movies, I think ultimately it's that I'm stressed.

868
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: And when I watch like a horror movie, I really

869
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: like the building of tension and release in what I

870
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: consider a safe environment. And I feel like something like Diehard,

871
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: you know, isn't a horror movie, so it can fit

872
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: into like, oh, I don't like horror, but I like action,

873
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: but it's still kind of doing that thing where it's

874
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: building tension and really, yeah, and during the holidays, we're

875
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: all stressed and maybe you're tired of watching all these

876
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: things about how it's not stressful.

877
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all gonna be great. Like like, no, there's

878
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 3: a pile of dead terrorists for things, all right.

879
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 2: Still wipe that. And then also like I wonder if

880
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: this was also geared towards men, and then that most

881
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 2: of the Christmas movies, when you really think on it,

882
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 2: outside of like Families, it's not necessarily geared towards men.

883
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: So if I wonder if like we're going to bring

884
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: in this action and make this Christmas so not only

885
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: will we have women with the Christmas part, maybe maybe

886
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: the action part will bring in the masculine men who

887
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,959
Speaker 2: wants to hear mother.

888
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 3: I had to believe that it is definitely a very

889
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 3: male gaze movie. There's a couple of instances where when

890
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: they're up near the roof in the area that's still

891
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 3: under construction, where the construction workers have left behind a

892
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 3: uh a titty calendar. I don't know if I can

893
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 3: say that on this show, but you'll bleed if I can't.

894
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 3: Great and so and so it's just like it's just

895
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: like a like like a naked like a top naked

896
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 3: model and and yeah, like by the second time he

897
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: passes by, he's like, oh hey, babe, like does it does?

898
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 3: Like but he just gives it like a little like

899
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 3: a little kiss, like a little like a little hand kiss,

900
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 3: which is very sweet.

901
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: Like I thought, like I don't know, he's like he's like,

902
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: babe in this together, like we got this.

903
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 2: I needn't miss that part my partner who is a man,

904
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: Like did you just see that? Like what are you

905
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: talking about? Uh?

906
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 3: And then and then later when Alan Rickman would win,

907
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 3: when Hans Gruber is like so overjoyed that they finally

908
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: have an ode to joy is the classical piece that's

909
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: playing the background the whole time, which is great, but

910
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 3: but yeah, when he's so overjoyed that they finally gotten

911
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 3: the vault open, there's there's some statuary in there in

912
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 3: addition to all of the bonds, and one of them

913
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 3: is a lady and he just kind of pings the boob.

914
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 3: He just boops, boops the boob. I was like, well

915
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 3: you you and John McLean have something in common. Trying

916
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:47,959
Speaker 3: to show similarities commonalities. There was also there were naked breasted. Yeah. Yeah,

917
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 3: there's like there's like a solid like at first you

918
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 3: think it's maybe only going to be like half like

919
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 3: half a boob, but that it's a solid two boobs.

920
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: It is.

921
00:49:55,640 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 3: It is very briefly, the like incompetent dude who's trying

922
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 3: to have sex at this holiday party. Yeah, when the

923
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 3: terrorists uh bust up the NATO office sex.

924
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

925
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: Oh, I guess I really did bypass all that. Like

926
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 2: I must have been looking down because I did not

927
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 2: see any of the movies.

928
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: Oh there were movies.

929
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, no movies exist to me.

930
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 1: I've paid attention. I was like, what I forgot about

931
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 1: this totally incidental boobs? Yeah, yeah, yeah I did. I Also,

932
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 1: it kind of cracks me up, the whole thing about

933
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: the pregnant woman and the alcohol.

934
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 3: It's like, oh yeah, that's another Oh this really is

935
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight thing, right right, because like because she's

936
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 3: like she's like, hey, like can I can I? Can

937
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 3: I go to the party? Holly boss? Holly like like

938
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 3: I kind of want to drink. She's like eight and

939
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 3: a half months pregnant. Yeah, And Holly is like, the

940
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 3: baby's ready to tend bar, Like I don't worry about

941
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 3: drinking when you're pregnant, Like what.

942
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 2: Right comment? You think I should have a couple of drinks?

943
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: And then she's like, girl, that that maybe's a much

944
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 2: of tending bar like the Tin Bar.

945
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, Okay, holiday parties are wild. I do still

946
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 1: want to talk with you later, Lauren about Texas Chainsaw

947
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: maask he too, because yes, I can't remember if it

948
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: takes place at the holidays, but there are a lot

949
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: of Christmas lights in it. There certainly are there are.

950
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: Supposed to be spooky lights. Is that all you're talking

951
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: about in the shop? I can't remember the two okay

952
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: and one. I feel like maybe there was a lighting

953
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 2: with like it was Christmas lights.

954
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: No, there there are.

955
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: Actual like multi colored strand lights in the second one.

956
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 3: Because there are many bonkers choices that are made.

957
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: Yes, in that movie is very I was like, okay,

958
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: then we could talk about this on s Minty. Okay,

959
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: I love it. It's a beautiful film.

960
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 2: We've been talking about having that.

961
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: I know it's been in our drafts for a long time.

962
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 3: Any anytime, anytime, y'all, Yes, always 'tis always the seasons change.

963
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: We always tell guests that because we're like, you don't

964
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: have to limit yourself. If you're really excited to talk

965
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 1: about something, we can talk about it whatever. Ye doesn't

966
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: have to be the holidays.

967
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:19,959
Speaker 2: You do does.

968
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: Especially like horror related stuff.

969
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 2: We are always welcome here. It is.

970
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is all right. Any closing thoughts.

971
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 3: Uh, I hate that it's a meme now that that

972
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 3: a Christmas movie.

973
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: It's not a Christmas let's argue about it on the internet.

974
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 3: Because it takes place at Christmas, it has Christmas music

975
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 3: in it. I have a family tradition of watching it

976
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 3: at Christmas. Get your meme out of my family tradition.

977
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: Get your meme out. I mean that's true. Honestly, it's

978
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: like so many of the holiday things we do are

979
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: just nostalgic. Yeah, and so okay, Like I watched a

980
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: bunch of movies that I wouldn't call Christmas movies, but

981
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: I watched them every Christmas. The Christmas movies to me.

982
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 2: And all the networks seem to agree with you as

983
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: they make sure that you have to pay for it

984
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: because they know it's gonna sale.

985
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: Well, that's another thing. I always like joke with my

986
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: mom because she'll be like, why is this artist making

987
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: a Christmas album? Like because they know every year people

988
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 1: are gonna listen to it, and so it's like a guarantee, right,

989
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: like revenue stream. I bet that's one of the choices

990
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: they made.

991
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 3: When they're like, what whoa put it at Christmas? Yea, yeah,

992
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 3: people look at Mariah Carey and they're like, holy yeah.

993
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 2: And every year it goes to number one every.

994
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, so you know they knew what was going

995
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: on in multiple ways. I was saying multiple Yeah. So

996
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on, Lauren. This was

997
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: the light.

998
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much for having me any again again,

999
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 3: any any time, anytime.

1000
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: Absolutely any time. Where can the good listeners find you?

1001
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 3: Oh heck uh, well, you can listen to a podcast

1002
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: that I don't know if you guys have heard of.

1003
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: It's called Savor.

1004
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 3: That Annie is the co host of I don't know

1005
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 3: what that is food science and history and culture and

1006
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 3: wacky stuff. And I'm also on a podcast called brain Stuff,

1007
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 3: which is a short form science and history kind of show.

1008
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 3: And I guess I'm on Instagram. I don't, I don't

1009
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 3: know it's my My username is vogel Bomb, like v

1010
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 3: O g E l B O m B.

1011
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: It's like a pun. Yeah, we love puns here.

1012
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 3: So's oh one more, there's there's a horror fiction podcast

1013
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 3: called twelve Ghosts. Yes, twelve Ghosts. I'm saying it right

1014
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 3: this time. Uh, yeah, that I got to do last year.

1015
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: I got to voice do some voice work for It's

1016
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 3: a good it's actually like a like a holiday spooky anthology.

1017
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:13,479
Speaker 1: Horse.

1018
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: Yes, someone else I know who has a story in theirs. Yeah,

1019
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 2: several people's yes, yes, several humans.

1020
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: It's true.

1021
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 3: And Malcolm McDowell was our big star of that one.

1022
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 3: So and he is just a pleasure to listen to.

1023
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 3: He could be yeah, reading the script of Diehard and

1024
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 3: it would be great.

1025
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: Oh now that's an idea. That is an idea. Yes.

1026
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: And also I don't think I mentioned it, but Lauren

1027
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: is also in my D and D group. Oh so

1028
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: every time we're talking about D and D, just.

1029
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 2: No, Lauren.

1030
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I had to deal with my terrible decision.

1031
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 3: I was about to say that Annie is having to

1032
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 3: deal with my terrible decisions.

1033
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: Well, it's a.

1034
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 2: Mutual dislike and love, Peter.

1035
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 3: It's just character a based after Samantha's dog. Yes, yep,

1036
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 3: I think she's behind the whole thing. We'll set theory

1037
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 3: of the D and D game speeches all all all along.

1038
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: Yes, we'll find out. But in the meantime, yes, thank

1039
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: you so much. Lauren for being here and listeners. If

1040
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: you would like to contact us, you can our emails

1041
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: Stephanie a mom Stuff at iHeartMedia dot com. You can

1042
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: mind us on Twitter at mom Stuff podcast, or on

1043
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: Instagram and TikTok at stuff I Never Told You. We

1044
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: have a t public store and a book you can

1045
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: get it. Thanks as always to our super producer Christina

1046
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: or executiveroducer My and our contributor Joey. Thank you and

1047
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: thanks to you for listening. Stephan Never Told his deprection

1048
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,400
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1049
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: can find it on the iHeartRadio ap Apple podcast or

1050
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:48,640
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