Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show, fellow conspiracy realist. We are
Speaker 1: returning to you this evening with a classic, a very
Speaker 1: very wild interview that we did in two thousand and eighteen.
Speaker 2: My, how the time flies.
Speaker 3: Jeez, what was that like? It feels like you're talking
Speaker 3: about in the nineties at this point.
Speaker 4: But this conversation is about one of the things guys. Personally,
Speaker 4: it's one of my favorite things. I'm kind of obsessed
Speaker 4: with it. It's the concept of the Majestic Twelve. It's
Speaker 4: a secretive, fabled group of people that's kind of close
Speaker 4: to the Illuminati, but.
Speaker 2: With UFOs right right.
Speaker 1: Majestic twelve the inner cabal of scientists and policymakers who
Speaker 1: apparently figured out the aliens were real and proceeded to
Speaker 1: participate in one of the greatest cover ups in human history.
Speaker 1: In this interview, we speak with the author David Wilcock,
Speaker 1: regarding his own his theories, his beliefs, his journey, and
Speaker 1: how it pertains to his exploration of Majestic twelve.
Speaker 3: Let's jump brid yell.
Speaker 2: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
Speaker 2: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the show. My name is Matt.
Speaker 1: Our friend Noel is on some adventures. All will be
Speaker 1: revealed in time, but they call me Ben where with
Speaker 1: our super producer Paul Deckett. Most importantly, you are you,
Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this stuff they don't
Speaker 1: want you to know. A very special episode of stuff
Speaker 1: they don't want you to know.
Speaker 3: Matt.
Speaker 4: Yes, we had the opportunity of watching a document called
Speaker 4: Above Majestic, and we got to watch it a little
Speaker 4: ahead before it came out. And we are so excited
Speaker 4: today to be joined by one of the creators of
Speaker 4: this documentary, David Wilcock, who was a professional lecturer, filmmaker
Speaker 4: and researcher. Please everyone, let's welcome David Wilcock.
Speaker 5: Well, thank you guys for bringing me on. It's an
Speaker 5: honor to do your show. I had a career for
Speaker 5: a while repairing electronics and I was intuitive with it.
Speaker 5: I would take things apart and figure out how they work.
Speaker 5: So seems like it's a good fit for me to
Speaker 5: be on your show.
Speaker 1: Yes, fantastic. So, David, we wanted to first thank you
Speaker 1: for being so generous with your time today your name
Speaker 1: is going to be familiar to a lot of us
Speaker 1: in the audience in this episode, and over the course
Speaker 1: of your career, you have delved into multiple different avenues
Speaker 1: of research. Your prolific author, we've seen several of your books,
Speaker 1: and we also, I guess to start at the beginning,
Speaker 1: we were reading through some of your early life experiences
Speaker 1: available on your website here, with some experiences that people
Speaker 1: would call extraordinary, occurring as early as age two or five.
Speaker 3: Is that correct, Yeah, definitely correct.
Speaker 5: I started to have very strange dreams that had cylindrical
Speaker 5: craft in them that did not have wings, that were
Speaker 5: hovering over the backyard, and in some cases I was
Speaker 5: there with my mother. It would appear that the craft
Speaker 5: in some of these dreams had landed and that they
Speaker 5: wanted me, or I felt compelled to go to the craft.
Speaker 5: I still have not remembered anything as far as if
Speaker 5: these were actual contact experiences, but there's a lot of
Speaker 5: UFO contact ease and insiders who work in highly classified
Speaker 5: government programs, and I have been consistently informed by folks
Speaker 5: like this that sometimes these things that appear to be
Speaker 5: dreams are actually screen memories or otherwise memories of things
Speaker 5: that did happen. In other words, there are lots of
Speaker 5: contacts happening. Lots of people are having contact experiences, and
Speaker 5: it is not common for us to remember them. It
Speaker 5: is very, very much more common that we don't remember them.
Speaker 5: And there's also lots of other contact experiences that do
Speaker 5: not involve the typical alien abduction from bug eyed to
Speaker 5: grays as most people think. You know, the et subject
Speaker 5: is far far greater in complexity than the idea of
Speaker 5: gray aliens from Zeta reticuli.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: So, just for some of the members of our audience
Speaker 4: that don't necessarily outright believe in extra tra real life,
Speaker 4: what do you feel is the most compelling evidence that
Speaker 4: just aliens are real?
Speaker 5: Essentially, it's very tough to pick one thing when you're
Speaker 5: dealing with a subject that is so vast in its
Speaker 5: scope and complexity, But I guess we can take a
Speaker 5: crack at a few things. First of all, back in
Speaker 5: the day of the nineteen eighties, when I would watch
Speaker 5: documentaries about UFOs on network or cable TV, they would
Speaker 5: always have the skeptics in there. The skeptics would always
Speaker 5: say all of this has been discredited. One of the
Speaker 5: things they love to use. Was this so called Drake
Speaker 5: equation that looks very complicated with all these factors in it,
Speaker 5: And it was basically this scientist calculating that there's only
Speaker 5: going to be two point seventeen civilizations in the Milky
Speaker 5: Way galaxy. And I always wondered, well, what the heck
Speaker 5: does this point seventeen civilization look like? Is it just
Speaker 5: legs walking around with no body or what?
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: It's a fascinating question too, because we know, statistically speaking,
Speaker 1: just given the size of not even the entire universe,
Speaker 1: just the part that we can observe, it's virtually certain
Speaker 1: that there is some sort of other intelligent life, or
Speaker 1: there was, or there will be. I think that's a
Speaker 1: very I think that's a very interesting conundrum because we
Speaker 1: run into what I would call sometimes the arrogance of skepticism,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, and the fact is skepticism is no longer
Speaker 5: supported by the actual NASA data. And I say that
Speaker 5: because when we look at how exoplanets are discovered, it
Speaker 5: has to do with the occultation of the light coming
Speaker 5: from the star, where there's subtle variations in its luminance,
Speaker 5: and NASA has gotten to the point now where they
Speaker 5: can detect very subtle changes, and they can detect the
Speaker 5: mass of the planet, and they can also detect its
Speaker 5: approximate distance from the star. And NASA has also announced
Speaker 5: that stars are giving off hydrogen oxygen, which naturally combine
Speaker 5: in atmospheres to make liquid water. Therefore, any planet that
Speaker 5: is within what they're calling the Goldilocks zone, that has
Speaker 5: the right size is going to have liquid water and
Speaker 5: is going to be Earth like. So the official NASA
Speaker 5: estimates now of how many planets there are that are
Speaker 5: like Earth just in our galaxy alone, some of those
Speaker 5: estimates are as high as eighty billion.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 5: So try to imagine that, like if you had if
Speaker 5: you just went through our galaxy and you tried to
Speaker 5: go to every inhabited or every earth like planet. Okay,
Speaker 5: let's forget inhabited for a minute, every Earth like planet.
Speaker 5: Then what's going to happen is every person on Earth
Speaker 5: would need to visit what is it, like, twelve planets
Speaker 5: just to even visit them. If there's eighty billion in
Speaker 5: our galaxy, and then when they go into an estimate
Speaker 5: of how many Earth like planets there are in the universe,
Speaker 5: it would actually be one thousand Earth like planets for
Speaker 5: every single grain of sand on the entire planet Earth.
Speaker 1: Which is an insane comparison. You know, that's that's mind boggling.
Speaker 5: The idea if there's one guy listening on three hits
Speaker 5: a acid and he understands this, but nobody else.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: Please do?
Speaker 4: I think his name is Johnny Planet and he's awesome.
Speaker 4: So if one of the big issues I guess with having,
Speaker 4: even if we have this many civilizations and this much
Speaker 4: intelligent life in the universe, traversing the distance that you
Speaker 4: would need to just to visit even the next solar
Speaker 4: system becomes a tremendous problem. How do you see that
Speaker 4: actually working in in reality right now?
Speaker 5: So you have to understand that we are dealing with
Speaker 5: a particular set of science which we now believe to
Speaker 5: be sacrosanct and inviolable, and we take ourselves to be
Speaker 5: a modern civilization where most of the mysteries of science,
Speaker 5: laws of physics have been cracked and accessed, and it
Speaker 5: turns out that this really is not true. One of
Speaker 5: the most significant contributions I feel I've made to collective
Speaker 5: human knowledge is to explore a lot of different aspects
Speaker 5: of alternative science and to find out just how lacking
Speaker 5: much of our science has been. So like, as an example,
Speaker 5: there's this one Russian physicist named doctor Vladimir Ginsburg, and
Speaker 5: Whinsburg went back and looked at Einstein's relativity equations, and
Speaker 5: you will notice that the most common debunking that these
Speaker 5: skeptical individuals would usually use about the idea that nobody
Speaker 5: could reach light speed or even exceed light speed is
Speaker 5: this concept of mass increase. So when you look at
Speaker 5: the Einstein relativity model, one of the things that Einstein
Speaker 5: says is that as you approach light speed in your velocity,
Speaker 5: that your mass continues to get larger and larger to
Speaker 5: such a degree that once you reach light speed velocity
Speaker 5: that your mass would now be the size of the
Speaker 5: entire universe.
Speaker 3: It literally goes to infinity. Wow.
Speaker 5: So, way back in the day in the eighties, when
Speaker 5: you used to watch these shows, they'd bring this up.
Speaker 5: Sometimes skeptics would and say, yeah, it's just impossible. Nobody's
Speaker 5: ever going to be able to reach us. We're all
Speaker 5: trapped in this slow morass and there's no way out.
Speaker 5: So I brought up Vladimir Ginsberg. Well Ginsberg produced a
Speaker 5: very interesting realization. The Einstein equation that leads to this
Speaker 5: idea of mass increase at light speed velocity is an
Speaker 5: equation that is based on a fraction. And the cool
Speaker 5: thing about fractions is that you can manipulate them, and
Speaker 5: that includes tipping them upside down, where the bottom goes
Speaker 5: to the top, the top goes to the bottom. Speaking
Speaker 5: in simple language now, but you get the point. And
Speaker 5: when you flip the fraction of the Einstein equation, it
Speaker 5: doesn't violate any laws of physics to turn it upside down.
Speaker 5: Everything still works fine. All the equations we know and
Speaker 5: love still check out. Everything plugs through in a proper manner. However,
Speaker 5: now as you reach light speed, instead of your mass increasing,
Speaker 5: your mass decreases. And so his conclusion, and also I
Speaker 5: would concur with this conclusion, is that it's mass displacement,
Speaker 5: and that means mass is displacing into an alternate reality
Speaker 5: and alternate dimension as you approach light speed. Well, this
Speaker 5: is very very useful, and I'll tell you why. And again,
Speaker 5: I've done three books, you know, two of which are
Speaker 5: New York Times bestsellers, and the total amount of academic
Speaker 5: references in these three books is over two thousand. Okay,
Speaker 5: so it only takes one hundred and twenty to one
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty to do a PhD. So there's a
Speaker 5: lot of stuff. There's a lot of scholarship I put
Speaker 5: into all this stuff. So let's just say this. The
Speaker 5: really cool part about this idea of mass displacing as
Speaker 5: you go towards light speed is that matter as we
Speaker 5: know it right now is already whirling around almost at
Speaker 5: light speed inside of itself. So that means that this
Speaker 5: is a secret where if you had a way to
Speaker 5: nudge the velocity inside the atom over the light speed boundary,
Speaker 5: which again traditional skeptics would say, oh that's impossible, that's impossible.
Speaker 5: But the light speed that we've already had measured has
Speaker 5: been proven to be quite variable. You know, it's not
Speaker 5: a solid measurement at all. It totally has fluctuations, and
Speaker 5: so the whole idea that it's a constant really was
Speaker 5: just an assumption based on inaccurate observations that didn't have
Speaker 5: the scientific precision we do now. So my point in
Speaker 5: saying all this to you guys is that when you
Speaker 5: get into the alternative science, when you get into the
Speaker 5: alternative physics, you discover that there are ways in which
Speaker 5: you can accelerate an atom over the light speed boundary.
Speaker 5: And when you do that, you now have teleportation. You
Speaker 5: can displace mass into an alternative reality, and in that
Speaker 5: alternative reality, space works very differently, and you can traverse
Speaker 5: much greater distances that speeds greatly in excess of the
Speaker 5: speed of light. So this is a whole branch of science.
Speaker 5: I mean, as you can probably imagine, I could give
Speaker 5: you two hour discourse just on this little chunk of it.
Speaker 5: But the idea is that just like the Wright brothers,
Speaker 5: it took them four years to prove that they actually
Speaker 5: had achieved powered flight, and they couldn't even get it
Speaker 5: done in the US. They had to go to France
Speaker 5: because people in the US were literally seeing the plane fly,
Speaker 5: seeing photographs of it flying, and they still didn't believe it.
Speaker 5: It's the same thing that's going on right now. We
Speaker 5: think we're at the top of the ladder, and we
Speaker 5: really haven't even started climbing.
Speaker 1: You know, I completely agree with that observation, David, because
Speaker 1: one thing that we've learned, we being our species, of course,
Speaker 1: is that the more closely we investigate a lot of
Speaker 1: things that were thought to be constant, universal absolutes the
Speaker 1: rules of reality. The closer we investigating and scrutinize these things,
Speaker 1: the more we learn about our own current ignorance, you know,
Speaker 1: like if you had, I believe like there's a terrible
Speaker 1: example of this, which is the doctor who advocated washing
Speaker 1: one's hands before conducting surgery. The man was driven out
Speaker 1: of his profession for asking people to do something that,
Speaker 1: even if it didn't work, was not an inconvenience at all.
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous, right, And it's a yeah, that's that's the reenactment.
Speaker 1: And so it's a dangerous assumption, isn't it that to
Speaker 1: say that we do know everything there is to know
Speaker 1: when the opposite is clearly the case. And to your point,
Speaker 1: for something to traverse that cosmic golf, they would almost
Speaker 1: certainly have to be using methods of transportation that are
Speaker 1: unknown to our civilization. If we could talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about how this relates to life on Earth, that'd
Speaker 1: be very interested. I know our listeners would be very
Speaker 1: interested in this too, in learning your perspective on how
Speaker 1: extraterrestrial contact may have occurred in the ancient past and
Speaker 1: whether it has occurred in the more recent past or
Speaker 1: even in the modern day.
Speaker 5: Right, Well, this is another very valid subject to inquire about.
Speaker 5: There are so many structures around the world that are
Speaker 5: made of, you know, one hundred ton blocks of stone,
Speaker 5: in some cases over a thousand tons, like with the
Speaker 5: Trilithian in Balbeck Lebanon. You know, you have these slabs
Speaker 5: that are literally the size of a city block, and
Speaker 5: the heaviest.
Speaker 3: One weighs like one six and eighty tons.
Speaker 5: There's absolutely nothing on earth that we have that even
Speaker 5: would remotely be able to manipulate blocks of this weight,
Speaker 5: and they're on every continent except Antarctica that we know of, and.
Speaker 3: Nobody can explain this.
Speaker 5: So it really kind of, to use a psychological terms,
Speaker 5: it's a mass cognitive dissonance that we all have that
Speaker 5: we assume that societies that are less advanced than we are,
Speaker 5: societies where men are walking around wearing towels around their waists,
Speaker 5: you know, and not even the kind of clothes that
Speaker 5: we would have, that they're somehow gonna, you know, butter
Speaker 5: up these logs and roll them up the hill and
Speaker 5: roll the stones in a position. It's it's totally ludicrous,
Speaker 5: and just to take that data point as something that we.
Speaker 3: Know for a fact.
Speaker 5: And then you go down to Peru sac se Walman
Speaker 5: and you look at these stones that are in some
Speaker 5: cases a hundred tons five hundred tons, that are literally
Speaker 5: pushed together as if they just melted together, and you
Speaker 5: can't even fit a razor blade in between the cracks,
Speaker 5: but yet there's no mortar holding them together. It's absolutely
Speaker 5: in defiance of all of our logic and all of
Speaker 5: our science. So the only actual logical choice left using
Speaker 5: the principle of Akham's razor, which is that the simplest explanation.
Speaker 3: Has to be the right one. This is not the
Speaker 3: work of primitive people. It can't be.
Speaker 5: Therefore, it has to be the work of people who
Speaker 5: came here from somewhere else, some type of intelligent life
Speaker 5: that came here that or at least also some type
Speaker 5: of civilization that had reached a level of advancement on
Speaker 5: Earth that is greater than our own. So then you
Speaker 5: cue the anthropologists, and the anthropologists are going to say, well,
Speaker 5: show me one broken piece of pottery, show me one.
Speaker 5: You know, where's the Chatalhoyuk, where's the ancient settlement that
Speaker 5: we dug up that shows all the progression of the
Speaker 5: technology up to this point, we don't have it. Well, yeah, exactly, dude.
Speaker 5: So you have to have craft coming in here from
Speaker 5: somewhere else. And then what are they going to do.
Speaker 5: They're going to use the native building materials because they
Speaker 5: didn't bring any building materials with them. And if you
Speaker 5: want to build something that's going to last a really
Speaker 5: long time, make it.
Speaker 3: Out a stone.
Speaker 5: So there you have it. It's so simple. And it
Speaker 5: amazes me that government controlled psiof a psychological operation dating
Speaker 5: back to the nineteen forties has created such an immense
Speaker 5: aura of ridicule if you even dare to talk about
Speaker 5: this and ask these questions that.
Speaker 3: Everybody just stayed quiet.
Speaker 5: Nobody dared to ask because they didn't want to be
Speaker 5: ostracized by their peers and lose their job and lose
Speaker 5: their lively.
Speaker 4: And with that, let's take a quick word from our
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Speaker 4: speaking of perhaps ancient civilizations with high levels of technology,
Speaker 4: in just the trailer, even for Above Majestic, there is
Speaker 4: a quote in there from Robert Oppenheimer that I believe
Speaker 4: from this same interview he gave where he said He
Speaker 4: quoted the bagav Agita and said, now I am become
Speaker 4: death destroyer of worlds when talking about the Trinity nuclear
Speaker 4: weapon test or the Trinity test, and you mentioned something
Speaker 4: in there, and I just love for you to talk
Speaker 4: about a little bit about the other technology that seems
Speaker 4: to exist within that book.
Speaker 5: Well, certainly, as you guys and your listeners may or
Speaker 5: may not know, I'm one of the top repeating talents
Speaker 5: on the Ancient Aliens show on History Channel. I'm in
Speaker 5: approximately one hundred and twenty six episodes. Oh yeah, And
Speaker 5: so anytime that you go to History Channel on a Friday,
Speaker 5: from ten am Friday morning to one am Saturday morning,
Speaker 5: that's all they air now all day long. So I'm
Speaker 5: getting a lot ofsure on History Channel. And this show,
Speaker 5: Ancient Aliens, incidentally, is the number one most viewed television
Speaker 5: program in the country of India, meaning that out of
Speaker 5: all the selections that are available on television, there's more
Speaker 5: hours and more people watching Ancient Aliens than anything else, which.
Speaker 3: I find fascinating.
Speaker 5: And so on Ancient Aliens, we have very consistently returned
Speaker 5: to the ancient Hindu scriptures because there is such a
Speaker 5: wealth of bizarre and fascinating information in there, and even
Speaker 5: what we cover on the show really only barely begins
Speaker 5: to scratch the surface of how far you can take
Speaker 5: that investigation. So let me just paint a picture for
Speaker 5: you now of what you get when you read these texts.
Speaker 5: First of all, we are looking at a society in
Speaker 5: which there are very sharp, divergent types of human looking
Speaker 5: people coexisting. You have people that look like we do conventionally.
Speaker 5: You have people who are taller than those folks that
Speaker 5: have blue skin, and we still see the depictions of
Speaker 5: Krishna all over the place, and everybody just assumes, oh,
Speaker 5: that's a mythology, that's got to be some kind of
Speaker 5: artistic rendering, and maybe the blue indicates that he's so
Speaker 5: highly spiritual. No, no, no, this is what they looked like this.
Speaker 5: There were people in India that had a skin that
Speaker 5: was blue. That's not a speculation. This is all part
Speaker 5: of their documented history. They took it very seriously, and
Speaker 5: the oldest artworks are thousands of years old that depict
Speaker 5: people looking like this. Another interesting area that I do
Speaker 5: say in that trailer you mentioned is there are different
Speaker 5: types of beings that are referred to in the bagavat Gita,
Speaker 5: the Mahabarata, and the other Vedic texts that they call
Speaker 5: rock shassas or takshasas. Those are two different words. And
Speaker 5: another colloquialism they use for them is snakes. And when
Speaker 5: you read about these beings, it's clear, I mean they
Speaker 5: have names, they have very strange names, and they appear
Speaker 5: to look like a reptilian human being. So in other words,
Speaker 5: they have the two arms, two legs, the head, two eyes, nose, mouth,
Speaker 5: but yet at the same time they also look as
Speaker 5: if a snake had.
Speaker 3: Been rendered into a human form.
Speaker 5: And there are very intense wars that are described between
Speaker 5: these reptilian types, the types with blueskin, the human types,
Speaker 5: and these battles also are recorded as occurring with the
Speaker 5: use of a certain type of craft they call the Mana,
Speaker 5: and the craft are described as you know, there's no
Speaker 5: visible sign of propulsion coming out of them. They have
Speaker 5: advanced weapons technology, including what appears to be the use
Speaker 5: of laser type weapons or particle being type weapons. They
Speaker 5: have clear anti gravity properties. They have a humming noise
Speaker 5: as they operate. They appear to be able to phase shift,
Speaker 5: so they could fly right into the ground, or fly
Speaker 5: through the ocean, or fly through a mountain, and the
Speaker 5: wars that these beings are fighting with each other included.
Speaker 3: What appears to be the use of nuclear weapons.
Speaker 5: And so as we ask in the movie, how the
Speaker 5: heck do you get such a precise description of the
Speaker 5: exact nature and trauma of the nuclear bomb in a
Speaker 5: text that, by anybody's estimate, is at very least three
Speaker 5: thousand years old.
Speaker 4: So I guess the big question then is over time,
Speaker 4: has all of that technology, if it existed, just been
Speaker 4: buried to a certain point where it's in excess decade
Speaker 4: or Yeah, what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 5: Well, I'd like to answer that question in what might
Speaker 5: appear to be a divergence, but it's not going to be.
Speaker 5: It'll come back to the questions point really quickly, okay. So,
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna come back to this thing called the
Speaker 5: Siberian Roswell and you'll see why this is important.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 5: One of the things we did cover on ancient aliens,
Speaker 5: and as a consulting producer, I had a lot of
Speaker 5: effect on what shows were chosen and what the topics were,
Speaker 5: and this is one of the ones that I recommended.
Speaker 5: So it's important to understand that the use of nuclear
Speaker 5: weapons on a widespread scale, Apparently the electromagnetic pulse that
Speaker 5: these weapons create and the amount of destructive force and
Speaker 5: actual movement that these weapons create is sufficient to change
Speaker 5: the energetic signature of the Earth so that it balances
Speaker 5: on a different rotational axis. And so the real tragedy
Speaker 5: of this civilization from the Vedic text, you know, conventional
Speaker 5: scholars assume these texts are between three to five thousand
Speaker 5: years old, but the actual texts themselves date themselves as
Speaker 5: being eighteen thousand years old. And there are also very
Speaker 5: interesting undersea ruins that have been found off the coast
Speaker 5: of India of areas that are clearly built like the
Speaker 5: temples that we see in India, many of which are
Speaker 5: pyramid like in the way they're built. But then these
Speaker 5: areas underground, underwater. They clearly we know they could not
Speaker 5: have been above the water for twelve thousand years, just
Speaker 5: based on stratigraphy and the natural progression of how the
Speaker 5: ocean levels have changed over time. So we already have
Speaker 5: archaeological evidence in which you have these temples. They're made
Speaker 5: out of stone, they have the carving in them, and
Speaker 5: the writings and inscriptions in them to correspond to what's
Speaker 5: in the Vedic texts, and they are under sea in
Speaker 5: areas that geologists will openly acknowledge have not been above
Speaker 5: sea for twelve thousand years. Therefore, what we appear to
Speaker 5: be dealing with in the records of India is one
Speaker 5: side of this battle with an advanced civilization that has
Speaker 5: been come to be called Atlantis. And Atlantis, remember, was
Speaker 5: started by Plato, who actually had gotten it from the
Speaker 5: wisest man in Greece at the time, a man called Solin.
Speaker 5: And this Greek philosopher had actually been granted privileged access
Speaker 5: to the Egyptian priesthood, and this Egyptian priesthood was connected
Speaker 5: to the Pyramids, and they had told Solin about the
Speaker 5: legend of a last civilization and that this civilization was
Speaker 5: far more advanced than we were at that time, and
Speaker 5: that there had actually been multiple civilizations had come and gone.
Speaker 5: So this is where the Atlantis legend comes from. It's
Speaker 5: from Plato's Timaeus and Critias texts. And it's very difficult
Speaker 5: for people to take this seriously because of the alleged
Speaker 5: size of the continent. You know, where they're saying it's
Speaker 5: bigger than Libya, and it's in the middle of a
Speaker 5: giant ocean. The big plot twist that everybody is starting
Speaker 5: to see now is that Atlantis is what we now
Speaker 5: call Antarctica. It's the same land mass, but that as
Speaker 5: a result of this nuclear exchange, that the Earth's axis
Speaker 5: changed and that land mass did flood, like the legend says,
Speaker 5: but then the floodwaters froze.
Speaker 3: So it's very likely that if we.
Speaker 5: Were to go under the ice in Antarctica, if we could,
Speaker 5: if we were allowed to, and that's another big thing,
Speaker 5: that we would find a lot of very amazing ancient
Speaker 5: ruins down there, and it looks similar to the stone
Speaker 5: stuff we see all over the world. But then you
Speaker 5: also have the idea that if Antarctica moved into a
Speaker 5: cold position, then so did Siberia. Siberia was not the
Speaker 5: cold wasteland that it is now. And so it's very
Speaker 5: fascinating to note that in the nineteen forties Stalin had
Speaker 5: heard about Joseph Stalin, the dictator of Russia, had heard
Speaker 5: about the Roswell incident, and he was aware that the
Speaker 5: United States had come into possession of some kind of
Speaker 5: hardware from alleged extraterrestrials. There was a story about somebody
Speaker 5: digging up a weird missile in the nineteen tens and
Speaker 5: Stalin went back to that location and the person who
Speaker 5: had originally found the missile basically like a steel looking fuselage,
Speaker 5: they couldn't dig it out of the ground. They didn't
Speaker 5: have the equipment, or the staff or the money. So
Speaker 5: Stalin goes back there in the nineteen forties and finds
Speaker 5: the location where this weird missile was located and they
Speaker 5: dig it up. Now, this is where the story gets very,
Speaker 5: very bizarre, because the missile was covered in Sanskrit. Now,
Speaker 5: Sanskrit is the primitive language, which is really not primitive.
Speaker 5: It's apparently an extraterrestrial language that was brought here from
Speaker 5: somewhere else. But Sanskrit is the language that the Hindu
Speaker 5: scriptures were written in.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 5: So now you have this weird missile like object that's
Speaker 5: dug up, it's got Sanskrit inscriptions on it, and it
Speaker 5: has a level of technology that is way way in
Speaker 5: excess of chemically propelled rockets that we have. Now, in
Speaker 5: addition to this, they found a vault. There was a
Speaker 5: vault down there and this is all documented by the
Speaker 5: way this is accepted mainstream Russian history.
Speaker 3: I'm not making this up, and look it up. It's
Speaker 3: called Russian roswell.
Speaker 5: They found a vault down there, and inside the vault
Speaker 5: it was like some kind of a capsule or chamber.
Speaker 5: There were a series of books, and these books were written,
Speaker 5: in some cases in Sanskrit, in some cases in unidentifiable languages,
Speaker 5: and it had pictures in them of things like spaceships
Speaker 5: and space stations with detailed blueprint diagrams on how to
Speaker 5: construct them. And so the Soviet Union got their hands
Speaker 5: on this stuff, and that allowed for there to be
Speaker 5: this covert arms race between the US and the USSR,
Speaker 5: where both sides are using recovered technology to build these
Speaker 5: unacknowledged anti gravity spacecraft. In this basically like a war
Speaker 5: with each other over who can get this stuff the
Speaker 5: fastest under the cover of national security, because as soon
Speaker 5: as your enemy knows you have something, it's not going
Speaker 5: to be a useful weapon anymore. So all of this
Speaker 5: kind of history has been suppressed from the public unfortunately.
Speaker 1: And there's a very salient, i would say crucial fact
Speaker 1: to add here. I want to go back just briefly,
Speaker 1: there are probably some people in the audience who are
Speaker 1: going to say, well, if there were some sort of
Speaker 1: ancient nuclear war thousands and thousands of years ago, why
Speaker 1: isn't there a higher amount of radioactivity occurring in some places?
Speaker 1: But we have to remember that the fact is that
Speaker 1: some of the most dangerous substances of this nature are
Speaker 1: like caesium one thirty seven strontium ninety and they both
Speaker 1: have half lives of only thirty and twenty eight years.
Speaker 1: So a nuclear a nuclear war, nuclear exchange could occur,
Speaker 1: and with so much time passing, we can't assume that
Speaker 1: we would run into someplace with fantastically high radiation, which
Speaker 1: makes it more plausible than some people might initially believe.
Speaker 1: But this when we're in the modern day. What I
Speaker 1: love what I love about you exploring the concept of
Speaker 1: secret technological wars is that it's it's absolutely no secret
Speaker 1: at all that the US military has a massive, gargantuan
Speaker 1: black budget, you know, funds for Class five purposes, But most,
Speaker 1: if not all, of what that money pays for is
Speaker 1: a secret. What do you think happens with those trillions
Speaker 1: and trillions of dollars spent by the Pentagon. Do you
Speaker 1: think any of that goes into programs similar to what
Speaker 1: you just described between the Russians and the US.
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, unquestionably. I have one of the insiders who
Speaker 5: has not come forward yet but has said that he would,
Speaker 5: is a guy who actually worked at places like Area
Speaker 5: fifty one, working directly in concert with human looking etcraterrestrial beings.
Speaker 5: And they talk very matter of factly about this. When
Speaker 5: you get to this level of the military industrial complex,
Speaker 5: they have open relations with a wide variety of exeterrestrial beings,
Speaker 5: most of which look like us or approximately similar. In
Speaker 5: fact that the gray type is about as dis similar
Speaker 5: as a lot of them end up looking. They most
Speaker 5: of them look a lot more like us than you
Speaker 5: would think. And this is where you.
Speaker 3: Get the ancient legends of gods and this kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: But before I go further down that road, I just
Speaker 5: want to loop back to something else you said, because
Speaker 5: there was an implicit assumption that you made, which is
Speaker 5: that there is no evidence of a nuclear exchange that
Speaker 5: is actually not true. The very well known geologist Robert Schock,
Speaker 5: who has always been a fixture in the ancient alien
Speaker 5: community going back to the nineteen nineties, with his speculations
Speaker 5: on the water weathering on the backside of the sphinx,
Speaker 5: and how you see clear evidence of erosion on the
Speaker 5: back of the sphinx that looks like many thousands of
Speaker 5: years of water running down and carving these smooth curves
Speaker 5: into it. That's what he's most known for in our community,
Speaker 5: the ancient astronaut community, but also Robert Schock's latest work
Speaker 5: is owing that throughout the entire northern hemisphere of the Earth,
Speaker 5: if you go back through the geological layers and you
Speaker 5: go back to about twelve five hundred years ago thereabouts,
Speaker 5: there is a five inch thick layer of black ash
Speaker 5: all over the northern hemisphere. Ooh fascinating, And it has
Speaker 5: micro crystalline spheres in it. It has these microtechtites, as
Speaker 5: they're called, these tiny little crystalline objects that basically represent
Speaker 5: the super heat of the nuclear blast taking all these
Speaker 5: pieces of dirt and immediately turning them into little glass.
Speaker 3: Balls that are microscopic.
Speaker 5: And there is that stuff, literally five inches thick layer
Speaker 5: of this black ash all over the northern hemisphere. And
Speaker 5: then also we've discussed how there are actual still existing
Speaker 5: radioactive hotspots in various places in the northern hemispherecluting an
Speaker 5: area around the Great Lakes that is exactly exactly the
Speaker 5: type of radiation that you would expect after nuclear exchange.
Speaker 5: Another great example that we talked about on ancient aliens
Speaker 5: is in the Sahara Desert where you actually have this
Speaker 5: green glass that people were picking up and they were
Speaker 5: getting radiation poisoning from it. And this is what happens
Speaker 5: when a bomb goes off over like in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Speaker 5: People were picking up these pieces of glass and then
Speaker 5: they were dying from them because it looked beautiful, but
Speaker 5: it was highly radioactive. So the proof of that ancient
Speaker 5: nuclear exchange is easy to make. It's just that it's
Speaker 5: not popularized. It's something that's been suppressed from us. And
Speaker 5: this gets back the second part of what you said,
Speaker 5: which is this national security state and the suppression of
Speaker 5: where all of our money is going. You know, why
Speaker 5: is the Pentagon saying that they're losing trillions of dollars
Speaker 5: they can't find it. And so getting back to my
Speaker 5: friend who worked on eight different types of anti gravity
Speaker 5: that he learned from actual extraterrestrials, teaching him this and
Speaker 5: then doing the engineering work.
Speaker 4: Is that babblezar Oh no, no, no, okay, okay.
Speaker 5: This is a guy who's never come forward. He may
Speaker 5: want to come forward. We've talked about it. It would
Speaker 5: be fascinating if he did, because he would be saying
Speaker 5: a lot of the same things that others have said.
Speaker 5: He is one of the people I know who visited
Speaker 5: our covert bases in Antarctica. There are hot spots geologically
Speaker 5: down there from volcanic activity where the ice melts and
Speaker 5: it's like a cave. And the Germans discovered at first
Speaker 5: with their submarines they could sail into these caves, and
Speaker 5: then they find out that there's land in there that
Speaker 5: you can walk around on and if you light it
Speaker 5: up and take a look at it, you can actually
Speaker 5: wear a T shirt in there. It's nice and warm
Speaker 5: from the volcanoes. So there's ruins down there, there's actual
Speaker 5: pyramids and stone structures and all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 5: And there's a huge, huge, covert presence down there, and
Speaker 5: I have been given various code names of what it's called.
Speaker 5: That's one of the ways that I figure out who's real.
Speaker 5: There's things that I don't disclose, but I've spoken to
Speaker 5: lots of different insiders who have actually been down there,
Speaker 5: and they've been under the ice in Antarctica. And the
Speaker 5: really really amazing thing, of course, is that there is
Speaker 5: a gigantic three mile wide spaceship that they found under
Speaker 5: the ice in Antarctica. It crash landed before it was
Speaker 5: all covered with ice. This thing is totally amazing, and
Speaker 5: they've been inside of it. They've seen the rooms that
Speaker 5: people live in. They had a very interesting system where
Speaker 5: all the waste from the bathroom is then pumped into
Speaker 5: Everybody had like a backyard inside the ship, so it
Speaker 5: appears that you're outdoors. There's like a holographic project where
Speaker 5: it looks like the sky, and then your own bodily
Speaker 5: waste is used to funnel into the growth of trees
Speaker 5: and grass and all the stuff that you have in
Speaker 5: your yard inside this mothership. And another thing that was
Speaker 5: fascinating was they found many smaller craft inside the large craft,
Speaker 5: and those craft look exactly like the ancient Hindu depictions
Speaker 5: of the Vimana. So wherever these people in the Vedas
Speaker 5: came from the Hindu Vedas. It appears that our government
Speaker 5: has found their ship in Antarctica, and there's been investigations
Speaker 5: where they're analyzing the debris and the wreckage all the
Speaker 5: way back to the nineteen fifties. There's some very strange
Speaker 5: stuff this stuff does. You can sing to the metal
Speaker 5: and it will change shape and form. You can tell
Speaker 5: it what you want to do and it will do it.
Speaker 5: So it's way way more advanced than the stuff that
Speaker 5: we have now. And I've had various insiders tell me
Speaker 5: that they are really jealous that I've been briefed on
Speaker 5: this stuff and that I'm allowed to talk about it
Speaker 5: right now, because they are planning on telling us about
Speaker 5: this stuff in the future. But there's a lot of
Speaker 5: guys that wish they could talk about it right now,
Speaker 5: but they're not authorized to yet. They're jealous of me
Speaker 5: that I get to talk about it. On how stuff works.
Speaker 1: This brings us to something that may be a little
Speaker 1: bit of a personal question, but we know tons of
Speaker 1: people in our audience are wondering this. Have you or
Speaker 1: your associates ever been threatened or harassed or intimidated, or
Speaker 1: have you ever felt that you were not safe due
Speaker 1: to the nature of your investigations.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, without question, there are very powerful groups that have
Speaker 5: kept this information hidden from us for a variety of
Speaker 5: different reasons, and I'll give you a couple examples of
Speaker 5: why they would want to keep it secret. First of all,
Speaker 5: if you guys have ever done examinations of how stuff
Speaker 5: works in history, right m hm, and you got into
Speaker 5: an examination of how war works, then you would know
Speaker 5: that if, for example, you look at the period of
Speaker 5: history where everybody has bronze weapons and then somebody comes
Speaker 5: out with steel, the steel is going to destroy the bronze, right,
Speaker 5: So everybody with those steel swords is going to destroy
Speaker 5: the bronze. Similarly, if you go back to a time
Speaker 5: in history where everybody is fighting with bows and arrows,
Speaker 5: and then somebody comes out with the crossbow, the guys
Speaker 5: with the crossbows are going to completely devastate the people
Speaker 5: with bows and arrows. Whoever has the most destructive and
Speaker 5: effective technology in a war is the winner, right, agree.
Speaker 3: On that absolutely. So.
Speaker 5: Therefore, if you are a national security state, if your
Speaker 5: goal is to make sure that your position of power
Speaker 5: is not threatened, why in the world would you want
Speaker 5: to tell the enemy w this case is the mass
Speaker 5: public and therefore anybody who could start to do things
Speaker 5: at home, Why would you tell the enemy that you
Speaker 5: have a superior weapon.
Speaker 4: That's a good point.
Speaker 1: It's a great question because we know that we know
Speaker 1: that there's solid, there's solid, compelling evidence that, at least
Speaker 1: in the case of the US military, they are in
Speaker 1: possession of technologies that the average public is unaware of
Speaker 1: and doesn't have access to until years after their invention.
Speaker 1: And let's pause there just for a moment. We're going
Speaker 1: to hear a word from our sponsor and won't be
Speaker 1: right back.
Speaker 4: You know, personally my I oscillate between some skepticism and
Speaker 4: then like full on believer of things. And in this case,
Speaker 4: when we're talking about that massive spaceship down beneath the
Speaker 4: ice in Antarctica, I what makes you personally believe through
Speaker 4: the accounts of others that this thing is real?
Speaker 5: Well, I understand the difficulty that you're facing, and it's
Speaker 5: a difficulty that I've faced as well. I'm standing on
Speaker 5: the mountaintop now and I get to look down at
Speaker 5: the whole path I took to get here, which has
Speaker 5: taken me thirty thirty five years, and much of this
Speaker 5: information came to me after many, many years of not
Speaker 5: having it and working very hard and risking my life.
Speaker 5: As you were, just talking about to get this information.
Speaker 5: Then when you actually can stand on the mountaintop and
Speaker 5: see the whole road and talk about it in nice,
Speaker 5: concise information chunks like this, and on a radio show,
Speaker 5: it would appear completely fantastic and completely ridiculous. And so
Speaker 5: I empathize with you because I am also a skeptic.
Speaker 5: I actually it's so funny because when I do public events,
Speaker 5: people come up to me and they get wild eyed,
Speaker 5: and they have all these amazing and fantastic stories that
Speaker 5: I know are probably not true in a lot of cases,
Speaker 5: but everybody assumes that I have this gapingly open mind
Speaker 5: and in fact, as weird as the things that I'm
Speaker 5: saying are, I wouldn't ever want to bring something up
Speaker 5: to you guys on the show like this if it
Speaker 5: wasn't something I've independently heard from four or five different
Speaker 5: insiders who have proven to me that they worked at
Speaker 5: very highly classified levels for the military industrial complex. In
Speaker 5: other words, I've seen the documents. I've confirmed that they
Speaker 5: did serve in the military. I've confirmed I've seen pictures
Speaker 5: of them with you know, very significant governmental figures. In
Speaker 5: certain cases, there's no doubt in my mind. And you
Speaker 5: when you start to have ten, fifteen, twenty different people
Speaker 5: that you can talk to who all have similar stories,
Speaker 5: and then when you're talking to one of them, it's interesting.
Speaker 5: I just brought my wife in on a call the
Speaker 5: other day with one of of my old insiders who
Speaker 5: I hadn't spoken to in a while, who we call
Speaker 5: Jacob in my book Ascension Mysteries, and we actually ended
Speaker 5: up talking to him for five hours. And the scope
Speaker 5: of the conversation, the level at which Jacob and I talk,
Speaker 5: the speed with which information comes out, the complexity of
Speaker 5: the information, how interlocking it is, how amazingly deep and
Speaker 5: complex it is. It's impossible that somebody could make this
Speaker 5: up as performance art. It's literally impossible. So we have
Speaker 5: had several different folks who independently had the same code
Speaker 5: names for these programs. They were aware that this ship
Speaker 5: is down there, they've actually put their hands on it,
Speaker 5: they've seen the inscriptions, they've gone inside, they've been down
Speaker 5: in Antarctica. They've talked about how they got there, they've
Speaker 5: talked about the protocols, the procedures, and there's just so
Speaker 5: many things that they say that overlap with each other
Speaker 5: without them knowing what each other actually said to me,
Speaker 5: and as I've said before, either I'm the victim of
Speaker 5: the greatest, most sophisticated disinformation campaign Earth's history.
Speaker 3: But this is actually true.
Speaker 1: This is very that's very well put, and we want
Speaker 1: to thank you so much for your time, David, but
Speaker 1: we feel like there's still just just a few questions.
Speaker 1: It's weird. Matt and I were talking about this before
Speaker 1: we got on Aaron. We were thinking, there's no way
Speaker 1: that we're going to get to all of this stuff
Speaker 1: or to give it, you know, give it anything more
Speaker 1: than a sort of broad scrutiny or a broad introduction,
Speaker 1: because many people will have been somewhat familiar with these
Speaker 1: concepts on a surface level.
Speaker 4: And hopefully they'll want to go see Above Majestic.
Speaker 1: Right right, That's one of the questions that we wanted
Speaker 1: to end on today. It's sort of a two part question.
Speaker 3: The first is.
Speaker 1: What has inspired you to create Above Majestic and what
Speaker 1: do you hope the audience, including our audience, learns from it,
Speaker 1: what changes after they have after they have watched the work.
Speaker 5: Well, again, we're you guys are double clicking on something
Speaker 5: that has ten references. How much of a cosmic download
Speaker 5: of plate spinning do you want me to do? And
Speaker 5: how many plates do you want spinning? Or you've had
Speaker 5: enough and you you say, yeah, I'm full, I gotta
Speaker 5: go now I guess, buddy.
Speaker 3: Well, so we didn't really start to.
Speaker 5: Get into the topics that above Majestic covers yet in
Speaker 5: our interview here, and that would be the central glue
Speaker 5: that holds the whole film together. Is this idea of
Speaker 5: a secret space program or a secret NASA? And how
Speaker 5: long this has been going on for? And this is
Speaker 5: another area in which, like many of the things we've
Speaker 5: been talking about, it does require a very flexible mind
Speaker 5: to properly appreciate what's going on now. Now, I will
Speaker 5: say this, even if a person is a skeptic and
Speaker 5: they are inclined to think that this stuff is not true,
Speaker 5: there is a pretty extraordinary learning curve just to familiarize
Speaker 5: yourself with what the insiders are saying is really going on.
Speaker 5: In other words, if you wanted to debunk this, if
Speaker 5: you wanted to discredit this without just making blanket generalizations,
Speaker 5: which is usually what they do, where they will attack
Speaker 5: the character of the speaker like myself, and by making
Speaker 5: some kind of rude character assault they feel that they're
Speaker 5: invalidating all this hardcore evidence. But if you actually wanted
Speaker 5: to go beyond that and try to take a legitimate
Speaker 5: skeptical inquiry of the data, first you have to become
Speaker 5: aware of what the data is. And that learning curve
Speaker 5: has taken me years, and this is with multiple insiders
Speaker 5: who I would speak to sometimes two hours a week
Speaker 5: for years on end, and every single conversation, I'm learning
Speaker 5: all this stuff that I didn't hear before. So I
Speaker 5: would say the first step to understanding what's going on
Speaker 5: is that it is vastly, vastly, vastly complex. It's so
Speaker 5: much more complex than people could even imagine that it's very,
Speaker 5: very tough to give people a sense of how much
Speaker 5: they've been lied to, because that in and of itself
Speaker 5: is a huge violation. We have been given a construct
Speaker 5: of reality. We believe that we understand reality when the
Speaker 5: actual greater reality around us is vastly larger. So if
Speaker 5: you go back now, and I would say most of
Speaker 5: your listeners could accept, at least on principle, that the
Speaker 5: Roswell crash may have actually been some kind of exterrestrial
Speaker 5: advanced craft. That the evidence for this is irrefutable. There's
Speaker 5: you know, our former NATA astronaut, doctor edgar Mitchell personally
Speaker 5: interviewed over seventy different witnesses to the Roswell crash. Who
Speaker 5: saw this thing, who saw the bodies, who saw it
Speaker 5: being hauled onto low Boys and you know, driven to
Speaker 5: Right Patterson Air Force Base, the people who checked it
Speaker 5: into Right Patterson, the people who saw it in the hangar,
Speaker 5: the people who saw the bodies inside these tubes filled
Speaker 5: with blue liquid. I mean, it's it goes on and
Speaker 5: on and on. So let's just say, as stage one
Speaker 5: of our philosophical premise we're building, Roswell really happened. Okay,
Speaker 5: Roswell was nineteen forty seven, that's seventy one years ago.
Speaker 5: So if we are then saying that our military industrial
Speaker 5: complex got access to fully operational hardware that could be
Speaker 5: used to traverse our galaxy, and they had this seventy
Speaker 5: years ago, don't you think maybe they figured out how
Speaker 5: to build it, how to get it working again, how
Speaker 5: to jump start the car, jump start the engine. And
Speaker 5: even back to nineteen ninety seven, we have Colonel Philip Corso,
Speaker 5: a witness who came forward and said that many technologies
Speaker 5: that we have developed came from the Roswell crash, and
Speaker 5: he mentioned fiber optic cables. He mentioned computer chips because
Speaker 5: remember we go from vacuum tubes where like the Univac computer.
Speaker 5: The reason why the word bug is used, right is
Speaker 5: one insect got inside that thing and it broke the
Speaker 5: whole computer because its little body hit the glass on
Speaker 5: one of these vacuum tubes and it melted the glass.
Speaker 5: And then they have to go through this massive basketball
Speaker 5: court sized room of vacuum tubes to find which one
Speaker 5: got the bug. And then all of a sudden, we
Speaker 5: get solid state transistors in nineteen forty seven from Motorola,
Speaker 5: and then very shortly thereafter we start getting computer chips
Speaker 5: where the transistors are printed onto a way of silicon.
Speaker 5: Now what's so crazy is that when Corso came out
Speaker 5: with the fact that it wasn't just you know, fiber
Speaker 5: optics and computer chips, it's also led lights, it's lasers,
Speaker 5: it's velcro, it's kevlar. And he says this in nineteen
Speaker 5: ninety seven, I had already gotten the exact same information
Speaker 5: and the exact same pieces of technology disclosed to me
Speaker 5: that they came from Roswell a year before from an
Speaker 5: insider I met at a UFO conference, and then even
Speaker 5: before that, a buddy that I had in college had
Speaker 5: gotten this from his physics professor who was the head
Speaker 5: of the department in nineteen ninety three, same information again,
Speaker 5: and then it comes out in a book five years after,
Speaker 5: four years after I first hear about it. So to me,
Speaker 5: the concept that Roswell really happened is irrefutable because I've
Speaker 5: been sitting on this knowledge about computer chips, led lights,
Speaker 5: infrared night vision, all this stuff being reverse engineered from
Speaker 5: exterrestrial technology. I'd had this for years, and then it
Speaker 5: comes out from a new witness. Well, then the questions
Speaker 5: I start asking this is again back in ninety seven,
Speaker 5: is well, oh my god, if they have interstellar craft
Speaker 5: seventy years ago, what are they doing with it? Where
Speaker 5: are they going? And obviously, now the idea of NASA
Speaker 5: Apollo missions to the Moon it's a laughable joke. They're
Speaker 5: way way, way beyond that. So now you have to
Speaker 5: kind of double click on that and say, well, my god,
Speaker 5: if they've had these craft, if they can build them,
Speaker 5: if they can fly out of our atmosphere and flish
Speaker 5: that the Solar system, flash of the galaxy. What haven't
Speaker 5: they done? How many bases have they built? How many
Speaker 5: locations do they have where there are people working. Then
Speaker 5: you start hearing from insiders like Pete Peterson, who actually
Speaker 5: worked with the Reagan administration. They called him Doctor Do
Speaker 5: because he was the leading expert on classified technology for
Speaker 5: the Reagan administration. And he came forward to me in
Speaker 5: two thousand and nine. Peterson is saying, Yeah, we've had
Speaker 5: Americans all over the galaxy. There's like thirty five different
Speaker 5: bases we have all throughout the galaxy with Americans working
Speaker 5: at them today. And he talked about how in the
Speaker 5: nineteen fifties they did this thing called the brain drain,
Speaker 5: mostly from third world countries, a lot of people from Brazil.
Speaker 5: And what they did is they recruited millions and millions
Speaker 5: of people. They estimate something like fifty five to sixty
Speaker 5: five million people that were brought out in the nineteen
Speaker 5: fifties from a lot of They were very the cream
Speaker 5: of the crop, you know, the most educated, the most intelligent,
Speaker 5: the most savvy technology experts. They brought them out into
Speaker 5: this world world that they were building in space, and
Speaker 5: they've never come back, and they have a mandatory breeding program,
Speaker 5: they have to have children, and they live a very
Speaker 5: regimented life. And most of these people have been told
Speaker 5: that the Earth was destroyed in the nuclear war in
Speaker 5: the nineteen eighties, so they don't even think they can
Speaker 5: come home. And so there's literally what Rich Dolan is
Speaker 5: called a breakaway civilization. There's a whole separate world that's
Speaker 5: going on out in space, and they are not allowed
Speaker 5: to have any contact with us, and we are not
Speaker 5: allowed to have any contact with them. And this is
Speaker 5: just some of the amazing stuff that we get into
Speaker 5: and above majestics. So it is a film really about
Speaker 5: the secret space program, which has never been done before.
Speaker 5: Nobody's ever made a film like this, and we certainly
Speaker 5: did not expect that it was going to debut at
Speaker 5: number one on Apple and Amazon. But I think that
Speaker 5: shows how amazing the demand is for people to hear
Speaker 5: about these out of the box alternative concepts.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, man, it's a fascinating why. You know, even
Speaker 4: the most hardcore skeptics, as you say, are going to
Speaker 4: find things in there that's it's going to blow their
Speaker 4: mind a little bit.
Speaker 3: And at least I don't see how and at least.
Speaker 4: Send them down rabbit hole after rabbit hole of their
Speaker 4: own research, which is I think one of the best
Speaker 4: things you can do for someone is just send them
Speaker 4: on their own journey.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I do want to point out to everybody listening
Speaker 1: that in the film, several of the people that are
Speaker 1: that are speaking about this or that have, as you said, David,
Speaker 1: come forward with their identities. They they are people who,
Speaker 1: as you said, have been vetted they did actually work
Speaker 1: in the military. They're not. I guess what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say is it's not just some random person from
Speaker 1: across the streets.
Speaker 4: Not just a blogger or something.
Speaker 3: It's Yeah, it's not at all, not at all.
Speaker 5: Anybody who made the cut and got into that film
Speaker 5: did so because they had proven themselves to the authentic Wow.
Speaker 4: And and like you said, it is available now on
Speaker 4: Apple and on Amazon. I'm looking at it on Amazon
Speaker 4: Prime right now. You can well I won't say how
Speaker 4: much it cost because it might change when you're hearing
Speaker 4: this or whatever, but it's available right now as this
Speaker 4: is being recorded.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 5: And what's also amazing is that it started out as
Speaker 5: only a purchase where you have to actually buy the
Speaker 5: movie for fourteen ninety nine when its first debuted, and
Speaker 5: now we have it available as a rental, So if
Speaker 5: you have a casual interest you just want to watch
Speaker 5: it once you can rent it. However, buying it does
Speaker 5: include a treasure trove of special features that I'm speaking
Speaker 5: in where this kind of level of conversation we've been having.
Speaker 3: Just goes on and on and on for hours.
Speaker 5: So it's definitely worth it to get the whole thing.
Speaker 5: But yeah, if you have a casual interest you just
Speaker 5: want to rent it, your bored and you got a big,
Speaker 5: big bowl of popcorn, You're probably gonna end up eating
Speaker 5: the whole thing and have indigestion because this is not
Speaker 5: a comfortable film to watch. It's a very thought provoking
Speaker 5: and in some degrees an anxiety provoking movie. And you know,
Speaker 5: if I could go back and do anything differently based
Speaker 5: on some of the feedback we've had, I would just say, people, yeah,
Speaker 5: we kind of break the shell of the consensus reality.
Speaker 5: It is a little shocking, it is a little disturbing,
Speaker 5: but the good part is that this stuff is true,
Speaker 5: even if maybe certain aspects of what we think we
Speaker 5: know turn out to be incorrect or need to be
Speaker 5: modified somehow. The overall investigation is extremely sound and the
Speaker 5: real spring loaded fascinating thing for humanity is that once
Speaker 5: this stuff is declassified, we immediately go into a star
Speaker 5: trek reality. We will be able to visit other planets,
Speaker 5: we will be meeting extraterrestrials, we will be working on spaceships.
Speaker 5: There's an extraordinary amount of extraterrestrial ancient ruins that they
Speaker 5: simply don't have another people to explore right now. So
Speaker 5: understand that the amount of archaeology that has been found
Speaker 5: because our Solar system is actually in a very popular
Speaker 5: part of our galaxy, right next to a big stargate
Speaker 5: that goes to other galaxies. It's something I talk about
Speaker 5: in ascension mysteries. There is good NASA science that proves
Speaker 5: that it's there. Okay, so we are a very heavily
Speaker 5: trafficked solar system. There's lots and lots of civilizations that
Speaker 5: have come and gone from here going back more than
Speaker 5: two billion years. So as a result, there's an incredible
Speaker 5: amount of archaeology that needs to be done. There's entire cities,
Speaker 5: entire ruined bases that have never really been explored, that
Speaker 5: have unbelievable significance in terms of archaeology. I mean absolutely
Speaker 5: utterly dwarfing the disc of King Tut's tomb and all
Speaker 5: the cool stuff that was in there. We're talking about
Speaker 5: cities that held millions of people, with their own technology,
Speaker 5: with their own writing, that are literally sitting there abandoned,
Speaker 5: and we know where they are, and we have the
Speaker 5: technology to get there, but this secret space program doesn't
Speaker 5: have anywhere near enough staff to go and explore them.
Speaker 5: Some of them are on the Moon. There's a lot
Speaker 5: of them actually in the Earth. There are plenty of
Speaker 5: them on Mars. There's plenty of them on other moons
Speaker 5: in our solar system, the moons of Jupiter, the moons
Speaker 5: of Saturn. They are loaded with this so called cosmic junkyard.
Speaker 5: And this is some dumpster diving that I would be
Speaker 5: very happy to do, because you might find dumpster treasures
Speaker 5: in there like you can't even imagine.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you again so much for joining us and
Speaker 4: speaking at length with us about this. It's really been
Speaker 4: our pleasure, and you know, it just keeps our mind
Speaker 4: going and we definitely want to believe and want to
Speaker 4: explore all this stuff further.
Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate that, and again, this is something that
Speaker 5: you can see in a movie. It's a nice two hour,
Speaker 5: twelve minute download that we really put a lot of
Speaker 5: time and energy into. It's got a lot of great
Speaker 5: graphics and effects, and it is well worth the time
Speaker 5: invested to see. You don't have to believe that it's true,
Speaker 5: but even if you just look at it as sci fi, it.
Speaker 3: Is a very entertaining rollercoaster ride. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to throw in the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's a wild ride indeed. David Wilcock, again, thank you
Speaker 1: for coming onto the show and introducing our audience to
Speaker 1: some mind blowing concepts here. We do also want to
Speaker 1: mention that if you would like to learn more about
Speaker 1: David's work outside of Above Majestic, you can visit his
Speaker 1: website Divinecosmos dot com.
Speaker 3: That's correct. Thank you, guys. I really appreciate you bringing
Speaker 3: me on.
Speaker 4: Awesome.
Speaker 1: All right, thanks so much. That's all for us today, folks.
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