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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show, fellow conspiracy realist. We are

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Speaker 1: returning to you this evening with a classic, a very

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Speaker 1: very wild interview that we did in two thousand and eighteen.

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Speaker 2: My, how the time flies.

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Speaker 3: Jeez, what was that like? It feels like you're talking

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Speaker 3: about in the nineties at this point.

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Speaker 4: But this conversation is about one of the things guys. Personally,

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Speaker 4: it's one of my favorite things. I'm kind of obsessed

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Speaker 4: with it. It's the concept of the Majestic Twelve. It's

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Speaker 4: a secretive, fabled group of people that's kind of close

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Speaker 4: to the Illuminati, but.

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Speaker 2: With UFOs right right.

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Speaker 1: Majestic twelve the inner cabal of scientists and policymakers who

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Speaker 1: apparently figured out the aliens were real and proceeded to

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Speaker 1: participate in one of the greatest cover ups in human history.

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Speaker 1: In this interview, we speak with the author David Wilcock,

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Speaker 1: regarding his own his theories, his beliefs, his journey, and

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Speaker 1: how it pertains to his exploration of Majestic twelve.

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Speaker 3: Let's jump brid yell.

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Speaker 2: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 2: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 2: learn the stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the show. My name is Matt.

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Speaker 1: Our friend Noel is on some adventures. All will be

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Speaker 1: revealed in time, but they call me Ben where with

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Speaker 1: our super producer Paul Deckett. Most importantly, you are you,

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Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this stuff they don't

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Speaker 1: want you to know. A very special episode of stuff

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Speaker 3: Matt.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we had the opportunity of watching a document called

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Speaker 4: Above Majestic, and we got to watch it a little

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Speaker 4: ahead before it came out. And we are so excited

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Speaker 4: today to be joined by one of the creators of

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Speaker 4: this documentary, David Wilcock, who was a professional lecturer, filmmaker

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Speaker 4: and researcher. Please everyone, let's welcome David Wilcock.

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you guys for bringing me on. It's an

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Speaker 5: honor to do your show. I had a career for

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Speaker 5: a while repairing electronics and I was intuitive with it.

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Speaker 5: So seems like it's a good fit for me to

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Speaker 1: Yes, fantastic. So, David, we wanted to first thank you

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Speaker 1: for being so generous with your time today your name

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Speaker 1: is going to be familiar to a lot of us

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Speaker 1: in the audience in this episode, and over the course

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Speaker 1: of your career, you have delved into multiple different avenues

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Speaker 1: of research. Your prolific author, we've seen several of your books,

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Speaker 1: and we also, I guess to start at the beginning,

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Speaker 1: we were reading through some of your early life experiences

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Speaker 1: available on your website here, with some experiences that people

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Speaker 1: would call extraordinary, occurring as early as age two or five.

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Speaker 5: I started to have very strange dreams that had cylindrical

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Speaker 5: I still have not remembered anything as far as if

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Speaker 5: these were actual contact experiences, but there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: So, just for some of the members of our audience

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Speaker 5: Essentially, it's very tough to pick one thing when you're

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, and the fact is skepticism is no longer

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Speaker 1: Which is an insane comparison. You know, that's that's mind boggling.

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Speaker 4: So if one of the big issues I guess with having,

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Speaker 5: So you have to understand that we are dealing with

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Speaker 5: legend of a last civilization and that this civilization was

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Speaker 5: far more advanced than we were at that time, and

439
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 5: that there had actually been multiple civilizations had come and gone.

440
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 5: So this is where the Atlantis legend comes from. It's

441
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 5: from Plato's Timaeus and Critias texts. And it's very difficult

442
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 5: for people to take this seriously because of the alleged

443
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 5: size of the continent. You know, where they're saying it's

444
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 5: bigger than Libya, and it's in the middle of a

445
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 5: giant ocean. The big plot twist that everybody is starting

446
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 5: to see now is that Atlantis is what we now

447
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 5: call Antarctica. It's the same land mass, but that as

448
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 5: a result of this nuclear exchange, that the Earth's axis

449
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 5: changed and that land mass did flood, like the legend says,

450
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 5: but then the floodwaters froze.

451
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: So it's very likely that if we.

452
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 5: Were to go under the ice in Antarctica, if we could,

453
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 5: if we were allowed to, and that's another big thing,

454
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 5: that we would find a lot of very amazing ancient

455
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 5: ruins down there, and it looks similar to the stone

456
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 5: stuff we see all over the world. But then you

457
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 5: also have the idea that if Antarctica moved into a

458
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 5: cold position, then so did Siberia. Siberia was not the

459
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 5: cold wasteland that it is now. And so it's very

460
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 5: fascinating to note that in the nineteen forties Stalin had

461
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 5: heard about Joseph Stalin, the dictator of Russia, had heard

462
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 5: about the Roswell incident, and he was aware that the

463
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 5: United States had come into possession of some kind of

464
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 5: hardware from alleged extraterrestrials. There was a story about somebody

465
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 5: digging up a weird missile in the nineteen tens and

466
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 5: Stalin went back to that location and the person who

467
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 5: had originally found the missile basically like a steel looking fuselage,

468
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 5: they couldn't dig it out of the ground. They didn't

469
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 5: have the equipment, or the staff or the money. So

470
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 5: Stalin goes back there in the nineteen forties and finds

471
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 5: the location where this weird missile was located and they

472
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 5: dig it up. Now, this is where the story gets very,

473
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 5: very bizarre, because the missile was covered in Sanskrit. Now,

474
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 5: Sanskrit is the primitive language, which is really not primitive.

475
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 5: It's apparently an extraterrestrial language that was brought here from

476
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 5: somewhere else. But Sanskrit is the language that the Hindu

477
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 5: scriptures were written in.

478
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:21,719
Speaker 3: Okay.

479
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 5: So now you have this weird missile like object that's

480
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 5: dug up, it's got Sanskrit inscriptions on it, and it

481
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 5: has a level of technology that is way way in

482
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 5: excess of chemically propelled rockets that we have. Now, in

483
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 5: addition to this, they found a vault. There was a

484
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 5: vault down there and this is all documented by the

485
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 5: way this is accepted mainstream Russian history.

486
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: I'm not making this up, and look it up. It's

487
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 3: called Russian roswell.

488
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 5: They found a vault down there, and inside the vault

489
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 5: it was like some kind of a capsule or chamber.

490
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,959
Speaker 5: There were a series of books, and these books were written,

491
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 5: in some cases in Sanskrit, in some cases in unidentifiable languages,

492
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 5: and it had pictures in them of things like spaceships

493
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 5: and space stations with detailed blueprint diagrams on how to

494
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 5: construct them. And so the Soviet Union got their hands

495
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 5: on this stuff, and that allowed for there to be

496
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 5: this covert arms race between the US and the USSR,

497
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 5: where both sides are using recovered technology to build these

498
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 5: unacknowledged anti gravity spacecraft. In this basically like a war

499
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 5: with each other over who can get this stuff the

500
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 5: fastest under the cover of national security, because as soon

501
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 5: as your enemy knows you have something, it's not going

502
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 5: to be a useful weapon anymore. So all of this

503
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 5: kind of history has been suppressed from the public unfortunately.

504
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: And there's a very salient, i would say crucial fact

505
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: to add here. I want to go back just briefly,

506
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: there are probably some people in the audience who are

507
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: going to say, well, if there were some sort of

508
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: ancient nuclear war thousands and thousands of years ago, why

509
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: isn't there a higher amount of radioactivity occurring in some places?

510
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: But we have to remember that the fact is that

511
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: some of the most dangerous substances of this nature are

512
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: like caesium one thirty seven strontium ninety and they both

513
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: have half lives of only thirty and twenty eight years.

514
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: So a nuclear a nuclear war, nuclear exchange could occur,

515
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: and with so much time passing, we can't assume that

516
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: we would run into someplace with fantastically high radiation, which

517
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: makes it more plausible than some people might initially believe.

518
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: But this when we're in the modern day. What I

519
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: love what I love about you exploring the concept of

520
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: secret technological wars is that it's it's absolutely no secret

521
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: at all that the US military has a massive, gargantuan

522
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: black budget, you know, funds for Class five purposes, But most,

523
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: if not all, of what that money pays for is

524
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: a secret. What do you think happens with those trillions

525
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: and trillions of dollars spent by the Pentagon. Do you

526
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: think any of that goes into programs similar to what

527
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: you just described between the Russians and the US.

528
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, unquestionably. I have one of the insiders who

529
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 5: has not come forward yet but has said that he would,

530
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 5: is a guy who actually worked at places like Area

531
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 5: fifty one, working directly in concert with human looking etcraterrestrial beings.

532
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 5: And they talk very matter of factly about this. When

533
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 5: you get to this level of the military industrial complex,

534
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 5: they have open relations with a wide variety of exeterrestrial beings,

535
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 5: most of which look like us or approximately similar. In

536
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 5: fact that the gray type is about as dis similar

537
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 5: as a lot of them end up looking. They most

538
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 5: of them look a lot more like us than you

539
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 5: would think. And this is where you.

540
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 3: Get the ancient legends of gods and this kind of stuff.

541
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 5: But before I go further down that road, I just

542
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 5: want to loop back to something else you said, because

543
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 5: there was an implicit assumption that you made, which is

544
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 5: that there is no evidence of a nuclear exchange that

545
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 5: is actually not true. The very well known geologist Robert Schock,

546
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 5: who has always been a fixture in the ancient alien

547
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 5: community going back to the nineteen nineties, with his speculations

548
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 5: on the water weathering on the backside of the sphinx,

549
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 5: and how you see clear evidence of erosion on the

550
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 5: back of the sphinx that looks like many thousands of

551
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 5: years of water running down and carving these smooth curves

552
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 5: into it. That's what he's most known for in our community,

553
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 5: the ancient astronaut community, but also Robert Schock's latest work

554
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 5: is owing that throughout the entire northern hemisphere of the Earth,

555
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 5: if you go back through the geological layers and you

556
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 5: go back to about twelve five hundred years ago thereabouts,

557
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 5: there is a five inch thick layer of black ash

558
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 5: all over the northern hemisphere. Ooh fascinating, And it has

559
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 5: micro crystalline spheres in it. It has these microtechtites, as

560
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 5: they're called, these tiny little crystalline objects that basically represent

561
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 5: the super heat of the nuclear blast taking all these

562
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 5: pieces of dirt and immediately turning them into little glass.

563
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 3: Balls that are microscopic.

564
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 5: And there is that stuff, literally five inches thick layer

565
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 5: of this black ash all over the northern hemisphere. And

566
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 5: then also we've discussed how there are actual still existing

567
00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 5: radioactive hotspots in various places in the northern hemispherecluting an

568
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 5: area around the Great Lakes that is exactly exactly the

569
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 5: type of radiation that you would expect after nuclear exchange.

570
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 5: Another great example that we talked about on ancient aliens

571
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 5: is in the Sahara Desert where you actually have this

572
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 5: green glass that people were picking up and they were

573
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 5: getting radiation poisoning from it. And this is what happens

574
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 5: when a bomb goes off over like in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

575
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 5: People were picking up these pieces of glass and then

576
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 5: they were dying from them because it looked beautiful, but

577
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 5: it was highly radioactive. So the proof of that ancient

578
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 5: nuclear exchange is easy to make. It's just that it's

579
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 5: not popularized. It's something that's been suppressed from us. And

580
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 5: this gets back the second part of what you said,

581
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 5: which is this national security state and the suppression of

582
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 5: where all of our money is going. You know, why

583
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 5: is the Pentagon saying that they're losing trillions of dollars

584
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 5: they can't find it. And so getting back to my

585
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 5: friend who worked on eight different types of anti gravity

586
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 5: that he learned from actual extraterrestrials, teaching him this and

587
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 5: then doing the engineering work.

588
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 4: Is that babblezar Oh no, no, no, okay, okay.

589
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 5: This is a guy who's never come forward. He may

590
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 5: want to come forward. We've talked about it. It would

591
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,479
Speaker 5: be fascinating if he did, because he would be saying

592
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 5: a lot of the same things that others have said.

593
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 5: He is one of the people I know who visited

594
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 5: our covert bases in Antarctica. There are hot spots geologically

595
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 5: down there from volcanic activity where the ice melts and

596
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 5: it's like a cave. And the Germans discovered at first

597
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 5: with their submarines they could sail into these caves, and

598
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 5: then they find out that there's land in there that

599
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 5: you can walk around on and if you light it

600
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 5: up and take a look at it, you can actually

601
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 5: wear a T shirt in there. It's nice and warm

602
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 5: from the volcanoes. So there's ruins down there, there's actual

603
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 5: pyramids and stone structures and all that kind of stuff,

604
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 5: And there's a huge, huge, covert presence down there, and

605
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 5: I have been given various code names of what it's called.

606
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 5: That's one of the ways that I figure out who's real.

607
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 5: There's things that I don't disclose, but I've spoken to

608
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 5: lots of different insiders who have actually been down there,

609
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 5: and they've been under the ice in Antarctica. And the

610
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 5: really really amazing thing, of course, is that there is

611
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 5: a gigantic three mile wide spaceship that they found under

612
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 5: the ice in Antarctica. It crash landed before it was

613
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 5: all covered with ice. This thing is totally amazing, and

614
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 5: they've been inside of it. They've seen the rooms that

615
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 5: people live in. They had a very interesting system where

616
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 5: all the waste from the bathroom is then pumped into

617
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 5: Everybody had like a backyard inside the ship, so it

618
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 5: appears that you're outdoors. There's like a holographic project where

619
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 5: it looks like the sky, and then your own bodily

620
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 5: waste is used to funnel into the growth of trees

621
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 5: and grass and all the stuff that you have in

622
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 5: your yard inside this mothership. And another thing that was

623
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 5: fascinating was they found many smaller craft inside the large craft,

624
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 5: and those craft look exactly like the ancient Hindu depictions

625
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 5: of the Vimana. So wherever these people in the Vedas

626
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 5: came from the Hindu Vedas. It appears that our government

627
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 5: has found their ship in Antarctica, and there's been investigations

628
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 5: where they're analyzing the debris and the wreckage all the

629
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 5: way back to the nineteen fifties. There's some very strange

630
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 5: stuff this stuff does. You can sing to the metal

631
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 5: and it will change shape and form. You can tell

632
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 5: it what you want to do and it will do it.

633
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 5: So it's way way more advanced than the stuff that

634
00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 5: we have now. And I've had various insiders tell me

635
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 5: that they are really jealous that I've been briefed on

636
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 5: this stuff and that I'm allowed to talk about it

637
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 5: right now, because they are planning on telling us about

638
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 5: this stuff in the future. But there's a lot of

639
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 5: guys that wish they could talk about it right now,

640
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 5: but they're not authorized to yet. They're jealous of me

641
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 5: that I get to talk about it. On how stuff works.

642
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: This brings us to something that may be a little

643
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: bit of a personal question, but we know tons of

644
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: people in our audience are wondering this. Have you or

645
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: your associates ever been threatened or harassed or intimidated, or

646
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: have you ever felt that you were not safe due

647
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 1: to the nature of your investigations.

648
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 5: Absolutely, without question, there are very powerful groups that have

649
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 5: kept this information hidden from us for a variety of

650
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 5: different reasons, and I'll give you a couple examples of

651
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 5: why they would want to keep it secret. First of all,

652
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 5: if you guys have ever done examinations of how stuff

653
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 5: works in history, right m hm, and you got into

654
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Speaker 5: an examination of how war works, then you would know

655
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 5: that if, for example, you look at the period of

656
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Speaker 5: history where everybody has bronze weapons and then somebody comes

657
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 5: out with steel, the steel is going to destroy the bronze, right,

658
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 5: So everybody with those steel swords is going to destroy

659
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 5: the bronze. Similarly, if you go back to a time

660
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Speaker 5: in history where everybody is fighting with bows and arrows,

661
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Speaker 5: and then somebody comes out with the crossbow, the guys

662
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 5: with the crossbows are going to completely devastate the people

663
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 5: with bows and arrows. Whoever has the most destructive and

664
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Speaker 5: effective technology in a war is the winner, right, agree.

665
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Speaker 3: On that absolutely. So.

666
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Speaker 5: Therefore, if you are a national security state, if your

667
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 5: goal is to make sure that your position of power

668
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 5: is not threatened, why in the world would you want

669
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Speaker 5: to tell the enemy w this case is the mass

670
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 5: public and therefore anybody who could start to do things

671
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 5: at home, Why would you tell the enemy that you

672
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Speaker 5: have a superior weapon.

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Speaker 4: That's a good point.

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Speaker 1: It's a great question because we know that we know

675
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Speaker 1: that there's solid, there's solid, compelling evidence that, at least

676
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: in the case of the US military, they are in

677
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: possession of technologies that the average public is unaware of

678
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: and doesn't have access to until years after their invention.

679
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Speaker 1: And let's pause there just for a moment. We're going

680
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Speaker 1: to hear a word from our sponsor and won't be

681
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Speaker 1: right back.

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Speaker 4: You know, personally my I oscillate between some skepticism and

683
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 4: then like full on believer of things. And in this case,

684
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Speaker 4: when we're talking about that massive spaceship down beneath the

685
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 4: ice in Antarctica, I what makes you personally believe through

686
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 4: the accounts of others that this thing is real?

687
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Speaker 5: Well, I understand the difficulty that you're facing, and it's

688
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 5: a difficulty that I've faced as well. I'm standing on

689
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 5: the mountaintop now and I get to look down at

690
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 5: the whole path I took to get here, which has

691
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 5: taken me thirty thirty five years, and much of this

692
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 5: information came to me after many, many years of not

693
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 5: having it and working very hard and risking my life.

694
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 5: As you were, just talking about to get this information.

695
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 5: Then when you actually can stand on the mountaintop and

696
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 5: see the whole road and talk about it in nice,

697
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 5: concise information chunks like this, and on a radio show,

698
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 5: it would appear completely fantastic and completely ridiculous. And so

699
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 5: I empathize with you because I am also a skeptic.

700
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 5: I actually it's so funny because when I do public events,

701
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 5: people come up to me and they get wild eyed,

702
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 5: and they have all these amazing and fantastic stories that

703
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 5: I know are probably not true in a lot of cases,

704
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 5: but everybody assumes that I have this gapingly open mind

705
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 5: and in fact, as weird as the things that I'm

706
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 5: saying are, I wouldn't ever want to bring something up

707
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 5: to you guys on the show like this if it

708
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 5: wasn't something I've independently heard from four or five different

709
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 5: insiders who have proven to me that they worked at

710
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 5: very highly classified levels for the military industrial complex. In

711
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 5: other words, I've seen the documents. I've confirmed that they

712
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 5: did serve in the military. I've confirmed I've seen pictures

713
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 5: of them with you know, very significant governmental figures. In

714
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 5: certain cases, there's no doubt in my mind. And you

715
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 5: when you start to have ten, fifteen, twenty different people

716
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 5: that you can talk to who all have similar stories,

717
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 5: and then when you're talking to one of them, it's interesting.

718
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 5: I just brought my wife in on a call the

719
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 5: other day with one of of my old insiders who

720
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 5: I hadn't spoken to in a while, who we call

721
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 5: Jacob in my book Ascension Mysteries, and we actually ended

722
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 5: up talking to him for five hours. And the scope

723
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 5: of the conversation, the level at which Jacob and I talk,

724
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 5: the speed with which information comes out, the complexity of

725
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 5: the information, how interlocking it is, how amazingly deep and

726
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 5: complex it is. It's impossible that somebody could make this

727
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 5: up as performance art. It's literally impossible. So we have

728
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 5: had several different folks who independently had the same code

729
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 5: names for these programs. They were aware that this ship

730
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 5: is down there, they've actually put their hands on it,

731
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 5: they've seen the inscriptions, they've gone inside, they've been down

732
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 5: in Antarctica. They've talked about how they got there, they've

733
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 5: talked about the protocols, the procedures, and there's just so

734
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 5: many things that they say that overlap with each other

735
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 5: without them knowing what each other actually said to me,

736
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 5: and as I've said before, either I'm the victim of

737
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 5: the greatest, most sophisticated disinformation campaign Earth's history.

738
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Speaker 3: But this is actually true.

739
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: This is very that's very well put, and we want

740
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Speaker 1: to thank you so much for your time, David, but

741
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: we feel like there's still just just a few questions.

742
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: It's weird. Matt and I were talking about this before

743
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: we got on Aaron. We were thinking, there's no way

744
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: that we're going to get to all of this stuff

745
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: or to give it, you know, give it anything more

746
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: than a sort of broad scrutiny or a broad introduction,

747
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: because many people will have been somewhat familiar with these

748
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: concepts on a surface level.

749
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Speaker 4: And hopefully they'll want to go see Above Majestic.

750
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: Right right, That's one of the questions that we wanted

751
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: to end on today. It's sort of a two part question.

752
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: The first is.

753
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Speaker 1: What has inspired you to create Above Majestic and what

754
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: do you hope the audience, including our audience, learns from it,

755
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: what changes after they have after they have watched the work.

756
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 5: Well, again, we're you guys are double clicking on something

757
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 5: that has ten references. How much of a cosmic download

758
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 5: of plate spinning do you want me to do? And

759
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 5: how many plates do you want spinning? Or you've had

760
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 5: enough and you you say, yeah, I'm full, I gotta

761
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 5: go now I guess, buddy.

762
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: Well, so we didn't really start to.

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Speaker 5: Get into the topics that above Majestic covers yet in

764
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 5: our interview here, and that would be the central glue

765
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 5: that holds the whole film together. Is this idea of

766
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 5: a secret space program or a secret NASA? And how

767
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 5: long this has been going on for? And this is

768
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 5: another area in which, like many of the things we've

769
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 5: been talking about, it does require a very flexible mind

770
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 5: to properly appreciate what's going on now. Now, I will

771
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 5: say this, even if a person is a skeptic and

772
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 5: they are inclined to think that this stuff is not true,

773
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 5: there is a pretty extraordinary learning curve just to familiarize

774
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 5: yourself with what the insiders are saying is really going on.

775
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 5: In other words, if you wanted to debunk this, if

776
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 5: you wanted to discredit this without just making blanket generalizations,

777
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 5: which is usually what they do, where they will attack

778
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 5: the character of the speaker like myself, and by making

779
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 5: some kind of rude character assault they feel that they're

780
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 5: invalidating all this hardcore evidence. But if you actually wanted

781
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 5: to go beyond that and try to take a legitimate

782
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 5: skeptical inquiry of the data, first you have to become

783
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 5: aware of what the data is. And that learning curve

784
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 5: has taken me years, and this is with multiple insiders

785
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 5: who I would speak to sometimes two hours a week

786
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 5: for years on end, and every single conversation, I'm learning

787
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 5: all this stuff that I didn't hear before. So I

788
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 5: would say the first step to understanding what's going on

789
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 5: is that it is vastly, vastly, vastly complex. It's so

790
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 5: much more complex than people could even imagine that it's very,

791
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 5: very tough to give people a sense of how much

792
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 5: they've been lied to, because that in and of itself

793
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 5: is a huge violation. We have been given a construct

794
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 5: of reality. We believe that we understand reality when the

795
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 5: actual greater reality around us is vastly larger. So if

796
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Speaker 5: you go back now, and I would say most of

797
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 5: your listeners could accept, at least on principle, that the

798
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Speaker 5: Roswell crash may have actually been some kind of exterrestrial

799
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 5: advanced craft. That the evidence for this is irrefutable. There's

800
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Speaker 5: you know, our former NATA astronaut, doctor edgar Mitchell personally

801
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 5: interviewed over seventy different witnesses to the Roswell crash. Who

802
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 5: saw this thing, who saw the bodies, who saw it

803
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 5: being hauled onto low Boys and you know, driven to

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Speaker 5: Right Patterson Air Force Base, the people who checked it

805
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 5: into Right Patterson, the people who saw it in the hangar,

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00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 5: the people who saw the bodies inside these tubes filled

807
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Speaker 5: with blue liquid. I mean, it's it goes on and

808
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 5: on and on. So let's just say, as stage one

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00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 5: of our philosophical premise we're building, Roswell really happened. Okay,

810
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 5: Roswell was nineteen forty seven, that's seventy one years ago.

811
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Speaker 5: So if we are then saying that our military industrial

812
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Speaker 5: complex got access to fully operational hardware that could be

813
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 5: used to traverse our galaxy, and they had this seventy

814
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 5: years ago, don't you think maybe they figured out how

815
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 5: to build it, how to get it working again, how

816
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 5: to jump start the car, jump start the engine. And

817
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 5: even back to nineteen ninety seven, we have Colonel Philip Corso,

818
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 5: a witness who came forward and said that many technologies

819
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 5: that we have developed came from the Roswell crash, and

820
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 5: he mentioned fiber optic cables. He mentioned computer chips because

821
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 5: remember we go from vacuum tubes where like the Univac computer.

822
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 5: The reason why the word bug is used, right is

823
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 5: one insect got inside that thing and it broke the

824
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 5: whole computer because its little body hit the glass on

825
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 5: one of these vacuum tubes and it melted the glass.

826
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Speaker 5: And then they have to go through this massive basketball

827
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 5: court sized room of vacuum tubes to find which one

828
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 5: got the bug. And then all of a sudden, we

829
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Speaker 5: get solid state transistors in nineteen forty seven from Motorola,

830
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 5: and then very shortly thereafter we start getting computer chips

831
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Speaker 5: where the transistors are printed onto a way of silicon.

832
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 5: Now what's so crazy is that when Corso came out

833
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 5: with the fact that it wasn't just you know, fiber

834
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 5: optics and computer chips, it's also led lights, it's lasers,

835
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 5: it's velcro, it's kevlar. And he says this in nineteen

836
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 5: ninety seven, I had already gotten the exact same information

837
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 5: and the exact same pieces of technology disclosed to me

838
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 5: that they came from Roswell a year before from an

839
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 5: insider I met at a UFO conference, and then even

840
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 5: before that, a buddy that I had in college had

841
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 5: gotten this from his physics professor who was the head

842
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 5: of the department in nineteen ninety three, same information again,

843
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 5: and then it comes out in a book five years after,

844
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 5: four years after I first hear about it. So to me,

845
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 5: the concept that Roswell really happened is irrefutable because I've

846
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 5: been sitting on this knowledge about computer chips, led lights,

847
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 5: infrared night vision, all this stuff being reverse engineered from

848
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 5: exterrestrial technology. I'd had this for years, and then it

849
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 5: comes out from a new witness. Well, then the questions

850
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 5: I start asking this is again back in ninety seven,

851
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 5: is well, oh my god, if they have interstellar craft

852
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 5: seventy years ago, what are they doing with it? Where

853
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 5: are they going? And obviously, now the idea of NASA

854
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 5: Apollo missions to the Moon it's a laughable joke. They're

855
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 5: way way, way beyond that. So now you have to

856
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 5: kind of double click on that and say, well, my god,

857
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 5: if they've had these craft, if they can build them,

858
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 5: if they can fly out of our atmosphere and flish

859
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 5: that the Solar system, flash of the galaxy. What haven't

860
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 5: they done? How many bases have they built? How many

861
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 5: locations do they have where there are people working. Then

862
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 5: you start hearing from insiders like Pete Peterson, who actually

863
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 5: worked with the Reagan administration. They called him Doctor Do

864
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 5: because he was the leading expert on classified technology for

865
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 5: the Reagan administration. And he came forward to me in

866
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 5: two thousand and nine. Peterson is saying, Yeah, we've had

867
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Speaker 5: Americans all over the galaxy. There's like thirty five different

868
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Speaker 5: bases we have all throughout the galaxy with Americans working

869
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 5: at them today. And he talked about how in the

870
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 5: nineteen fifties they did this thing called the brain drain,

871
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 5: mostly from third world countries, a lot of people from Brazil.

872
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 5: And what they did is they recruited millions and millions

873
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 5: of people. They estimate something like fifty five to sixty

874
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 5: five million people that were brought out in the nineteen

875
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,760
Speaker 5: fifties from a lot of They were very the cream

876
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 5: of the crop, you know, the most educated, the most intelligent,

877
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 5: the most savvy technology experts. They brought them out into

878
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 5: this world world that they were building in space, and

879
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 5: they've never come back, and they have a mandatory breeding program,

880
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 5: they have to have children, and they live a very

881
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 5: regimented life. And most of these people have been told

882
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 5: that the Earth was destroyed in the nuclear war in

883
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 5: the nineteen eighties, so they don't even think they can

884
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 5: come home. And so there's literally what Rich Dolan is

885
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 5: called a breakaway civilization. There's a whole separate world that's

886
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 5: going on out in space, and they are not allowed

887
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 5: to have any contact with us, and we are not

888
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 5: allowed to have any contact with them. And this is

889
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 5: just some of the amazing stuff that we get into

890
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 5: and above majestics. So it is a film really about

891
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 5: the secret space program, which has never been done before.

892
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 5: Nobody's ever made a film like this, and we certainly

893
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 5: did not expect that it was going to debut at

894
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 5: number one on Apple and Amazon. But I think that

895
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 5: shows how amazing the demand is for people to hear

896
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 5: about these out of the box alternative concepts.

897
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, man, it's a fascinating why. You know, even

898
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 4: the most hardcore skeptics, as you say, are going to

899
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 4: find things in there that's it's going to blow their

900
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 4: mind a little bit.

901
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 3: And at least I don't see how and at least.

902
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 4: Send them down rabbit hole after rabbit hole of their

903
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 4: own research, which is I think one of the best

904
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 4: things you can do for someone is just send them

905
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 4: on their own journey.

906
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

907
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: And I do want to point out to everybody listening

908
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 1: that in the film, several of the people that are

909
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 1: that are speaking about this or that have, as you said, David,

910
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: come forward with their identities. They they are people who,

911
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: as you said, have been vetted they did actually work

912
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: in the military. They're not. I guess what I'm trying

913
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: to say is it's not just some random person from

914
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: across the streets.

915
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 4: Not just a blogger or something.

916
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 3: It's Yeah, it's not at all, not at all.

917
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 5: Anybody who made the cut and got into that film

918
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 5: did so because they had proven themselves to the authentic Wow.

919
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 4: And and like you said, it is available now on

920
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 4: Apple and on Amazon. I'm looking at it on Amazon

921
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 4: Prime right now. You can well I won't say how

922
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 4: much it cost because it might change when you're hearing

923
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 4: this or whatever, but it's available right now as this

924
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 4: is being recorded.

925
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 3: Well.

926
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 5: And what's also amazing is that it started out as

927
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 5: only a purchase where you have to actually buy the

928
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 5: movie for fourteen ninety nine when its first debuted, and

929
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 5: now we have it available as a rental, So if

930
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 5: you have a casual interest you just want to watch

931
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 5: it once you can rent it. However, buying it does

932
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 5: include a treasure trove of special features that I'm speaking

933
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 5: in where this kind of level of conversation we've been having.

934
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 3: Just goes on and on and on for hours.

935
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 5: So it's definitely worth it to get the whole thing.

936
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 5: But yeah, if you have a casual interest you just

937
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 5: want to rent it, your bored and you got a big,

938
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 5: big bowl of popcorn, You're probably gonna end up eating

939
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 5: the whole thing and have indigestion because this is not

940
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 5: a comfortable film to watch. It's a very thought provoking

941
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 5: and in some degrees an anxiety provoking movie. And you know,

942
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 5: if I could go back and do anything differently based

943
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 5: on some of the feedback we've had, I would just say, people, yeah,

944
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 5: we kind of break the shell of the consensus reality.

945
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 5: It is a little shocking, it is a little disturbing,

946
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 5: but the good part is that this stuff is true,

947
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 5: even if maybe certain aspects of what we think we

948
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 5: know turn out to be incorrect or need to be

949
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 5: modified somehow. The overall investigation is extremely sound and the

950
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 5: real spring loaded fascinating thing for humanity is that once

951
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 5: this stuff is declassified, we immediately go into a star

952
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 5: trek reality. We will be able to visit other planets,

953
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 5: we will be meeting extraterrestrials, we will be working on spaceships.

954
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 5: There's an extraordinary amount of extraterrestrial ancient ruins that they

955
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 5: simply don't have another people to explore right now. So

956
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 5: understand that the amount of archaeology that has been found

957
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 5: because our Solar system is actually in a very popular

958
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 5: part of our galaxy, right next to a big stargate

959
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 5: that goes to other galaxies. It's something I talk about

960
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 5: in ascension mysteries. There is good NASA science that proves

961
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 5: that it's there. Okay, so we are a very heavily

962
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 5: trafficked solar system. There's lots and lots of civilizations that

963
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 5: have come and gone from here going back more than

964
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 5: two billion years. So as a result, there's an incredible

965
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 5: amount of archaeology that needs to be done. There's entire cities,

966
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 5: entire ruined bases that have never really been explored, that

967
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 5: have unbelievable significance in terms of archaeology. I mean absolutely

968
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 5: utterly dwarfing the disc of King Tut's tomb and all

969
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 5: the cool stuff that was in there. We're talking about

970
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 5: cities that held millions of people, with their own technology,

971
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 5: with their own writing, that are literally sitting there abandoned,

972
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 5: and we know where they are, and we have the

973
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 5: technology to get there, but this secret space program doesn't

974
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 5: have anywhere near enough staff to go and explore them.

975
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 5: Some of them are on the Moon. There's a lot

976
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 5: of them actually in the Earth. There are plenty of

977
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 5: them on Mars. There's plenty of them on other moons

978
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 5: in our solar system, the moons of Jupiter, the moons

979
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 5: of Saturn. They are loaded with this so called cosmic junkyard.

980
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 5: And this is some dumpster diving that I would be

981
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 5: very happy to do, because you might find dumpster treasures

982
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 5: in there like you can't even imagine.

983
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 4: Well, thank you again so much for joining us and

984
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 4: speaking at length with us about this. It's really been

985
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:02,439
Speaker 4: our pleasure, and you know, it just keeps our mind

986
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 4: going and we definitely want to believe and want to

987
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 4: explore all this stuff further.

988
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate that, and again, this is something that

989
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 5: you can see in a movie. It's a nice two hour,

990
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 5: twelve minute download that we really put a lot of

991
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 5: time and energy into. It's got a lot of great

992
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 5: graphics and effects, and it is well worth the time

993
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 5: invested to see. You don't have to believe that it's true,

994
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 5: but even if you just look at it as sci fi, it.

995
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 3: Is a very entertaining rollercoaster ride. That's awesome.

996
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to throw in the same thing.

997
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: It's a wild ride indeed. David Wilcock, again, thank you

998
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: for coming onto the show and introducing our audience to

999
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: some mind blowing concepts here. We do also want to

1000
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: mention that if you would like to learn more about

1001
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: David's work outside of Above Majestic, you can visit his

1002
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: website Divinecosmos dot com.

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01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 3: That's correct. Thank you, guys. I really appreciate you bringing

1004
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 3: me on.

1005
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 4: Awesome.

1006
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: All right, thanks so much. That's all for us today, folks.

1007
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,960
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1008
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:16,480
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