Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from
Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always
Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West and Hodkoitz. We're coming to
Speaker 1: you here from our studios at lambeau Field West. One
Speaker 1: practice of training camp is in the books as we
Speaker 1: record this episode, and I want to start this one
Speaker 1: sort of picking up where we left off on our
Speaker 1: last episode, because two major topics that we talked about
Speaker 1: heading into training camp were with regard to the fact
Speaker 1: that David Batr and Elton Jenkins would not be practicing
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, and that Christian Watson and Sammy
Speaker 1: Watkins would also not be starting to practice just yet
Speaker 1: at the wide receiver position. We were wondering what would
Speaker 1: be happening with those two position groups, and the early
Speaker 1: answer is that on the offensive line, Jake hands And
Speaker 1: is running with the ones as the starting right guard
Speaker 1: for now, and at wide receiver, Jowan Winfrey was in
Speaker 1: the huddle with the starters for a considerable amount of
Speaker 1: the first team reps in the first practice. So start
Speaker 1: wherever you'd like. I'll toss it over to you to
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on those early developments here in camp. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll start the offensive line because I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of different ways you and I can go with
Speaker 1: the receivers here in a moment. But the Jake Hanson
Speaker 1: thing is interesting because the Packers have had six weeks
Speaker 1: to think about this. We saw the alignment during the
Speaker 1: off season program. Most of it was Yashneiman at left
Speaker 1: tackle and Cole van Land in the sixth round pick
Speaker 1: from two years ago over at right tackle. They made
Speaker 1: that adjustment. Now Royce Newman is bumping out to right tackle.
Speaker 1: The conversation you and I had earlier this week about
Speaker 1: where you slot him, but Jake Hanson is the first
Speaker 1: one up. Now. That doesn't surprise me in terms of
Speaker 1: the rookies. Typically they're not going to push them into
Speaker 1: that spot. But this is a million dollar opportunity for
Speaker 1: Jake Hanson. Question. This is the guy that was basically
Speaker 1: a four year starter at center for Oregon. He has
Speaker 1: that hip type injury whatever it was his rookie season.
Speaker 1: He doesn't make the roster. He's on the practice squad
Speaker 1: all season. He has the operation. It was on the
Speaker 1: fifty three all last year. I don't think a lot
Speaker 1: of people realize that, and he's kind of sort he's
Speaker 1: like been the opposite of of Lucas Patrick in a way,
Speaker 1: and where Lucas was a guard at Duke and they
Speaker 1: transition him to being a center, Hansen's had to do
Speaker 1: more and more guard the last two years. So the
Speaker 1: Packers need that type of player. They need a guy
Speaker 1: that can be an interior potential starter, but also give
Speaker 1: them some flexibility as a backup to Josh Meyers, who
Speaker 1: missed eleven games last year. You never know when you
Speaker 1: need to call upon that person. Zack Tom was moving
Speaker 1: around at left tackle, he played some guard, you know.
Speaker 1: It really seemed like the focus there was with Sean
Speaker 1: Ryan at right guard. So they're gonna allow these young
Speaker 1: guys to to sort of develop and come along. But
Speaker 1: from right out of the gate, Jake Hansen's getting that
Speaker 1: chance there to run with the first team unit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just to clarify, that first team unit on the
Speaker 1: offensive line left to right was Josh Naiman, John Runyon,
Speaker 1: Josh Meyers in the middle, than Jake Hansen and Royce
Speaker 1: Newman on the right side, and also Hansen working as
Speaker 1: the center with the number two units. So when you
Speaker 1: talk about an opportunity for a guy to uh to
Speaker 1: not only make the roster at a very crowded position
Speaker 1: when everybody's healthy, um, but the potentially you know, work
Speaker 1: his way into into a more I guess you'd say
Speaker 1: a more elevated role even if when everybody's healthy, Jake
Speaker 1: Hanson might be a backup when it's all said and done,
Speaker 1: but a more elevated role in sort of that next
Speaker 1: man up hierarchy with with how this shakes out. And yes,
Speaker 1: we don't know exactly when bok T is going to
Speaker 1: be back. We continue to see Elton Jenkins working with
Speaker 1: the rehab group as expected for an a c L
Speaker 1: that occurred in in mid November, but at some point
Speaker 1: the Packers are hoping to be back at full strength
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, and it's going to be very
Speaker 1: interesting to see just how all the dominoes line up
Speaker 1: at that point. Yeah, and as you said, there very
Speaker 1: well couldn't be that Jake Hanson ends up as a
Speaker 1: backup where you look at a situation like last year
Speaker 1: where you know, Royce Newman comes out of nowhere after
Speaker 1: being in the competition at at right tackle to end
Speaker 1: up being the starting guard two weeks into camp. John
Speaker 1: Runyon didn't start the opener, but then Lucas Patrick has
Speaker 1: the concussion against the Saints and he's the left guard
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Yeah, so you never know
Speaker 1: how the dominoes are gonna fall. Just the fact that
Speaker 1: Hansen's getting this shot right away. Again, you're looking to
Speaker 1: hold serve if your hands and you're looking to tell
Speaker 1: the Packers, yes, you've drafted these guys, but but I
Speaker 1: can handle this job too. Yeah. Absolutely, Well. Add wide
Speaker 1: receiver as mentioned, Jowan Winfrey was in there with the
Speaker 1: with the starting offense and it didn't take long. I
Speaker 1: believe it was the second eleven on eleven period of practice.
Speaker 1: Winfrey was lined up split out to the right one
Speaker 1: on one against Eric Stokes and it was clearly clearly
Speaker 1: single coverage based on the way the defense was lined up,
Speaker 1: and uh and Aaron Rodgers gave him the go route.
Speaker 1: He uh, he took off Eric Stokes had he darn
Speaker 1: good coverage on the play. Um Rogers through a perfect ball.
Speaker 1: Winfrey made a diving catch, really really impressive play and
Speaker 1: and Uh both those players talked about it afterward in
Speaker 1: the locker room. It was a moment of Rogers where
Speaker 1: he was sending a message to Winfrey like all right,
Speaker 1: you know, I I trust you here. Let's get let's
Speaker 1: get this done right and uh. And it was Winfrey
Speaker 1: feeling that boost of confidence from that trust from the
Speaker 1: quarterback that all right, this guy, this guy's got my back,
Speaker 1: he's you know, and I'm gonna come through for him.
Speaker 1: I thought the Almaz Art catch, which we'll talk about
Speaker 1: in a minute, was definitely the highlight reel of highlight
Speaker 1: reel plays of the first practice. But I wrote about
Speaker 1: the fact that I thought the most important play, if
Speaker 1: you want to talk big picture here, the most important
Speaker 1: play of the first day of practice in my mind
Speaker 1: was the deep ball to Winfrey. It was Mike because
Speaker 1: of what it means for Jowan Winfrey, Alan's Art. Certainly,
Speaker 1: that's a play that happened. We'll talk about in a second.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rod just will be thinking about that week three
Speaker 1: if that type of defensive alignment works out and he
Speaker 1: needs to give his guy a chance. But ultimately, Winfrey
Speaker 1: is the type of guy that needs to make plays
Speaker 1: to make this team. And Mike, we've seen it for
Speaker 1: two off seasons. He he really had that coming out party.
Speaker 1: I would I would put him up there as one
Speaker 1: of the m v p s. Him and Jordan's love.
Speaker 1: They had a synergy going on there. But then he
Speaker 1: hurts the hamstring. He isn't able to play in the preseason. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it knocked him out of the out of action for
Speaker 1: an extended period of time. Yeah. If this guy is
Speaker 1: just able to get to that first preseason game in
Speaker 1: San Francisco, I'm really excited to see what he can do.
Speaker 1: Good size for the position, you know, he had a
Speaker 1: good makeup. I believe he was a six round pick
Speaker 1: or somewhere around the sixth round pick by the Broncos
Speaker 1: in Yeah, so it's not like this guy's just completely
Speaker 1: coming out of nowhere. But it's just a matter of
Speaker 1: if he can stay healthy and keep making the most
Speaker 1: of these opportunities. One of the reasons I wanted to
Speaker 1: delay the conversation with the receivers is because it goes
Speaker 1: back to something Aaron Rodgers said in the group huddle
Speaker 1: you were with him and Tom Clements, the Packers quarterbacks coach,
Speaker 1: longtime assistant. He's not the type of guy that's sitting
Speaker 1: there doing like dabs and like you know, pattent guys
Speaker 1: on the back it's pretty stoic individual. But after that,
Speaker 1: in addition to kind of cracking a smile at a
Speaker 1: few points, given Rogers a fist pump. Aaron Rodgers doesn't
Speaker 1: have the day that he did coming out of the
Speaker 1: gates if his receivers aren't making plays for him. And
Speaker 1: whether it was Winfrey, whether it was Romeo Dobbs and
Speaker 1: Samari too Ray, two rookies that have come in and Mike,
Speaker 1: I've said it time and time again. They have not blanked.
Speaker 1: These guys have made every opportunity that has been presented
Speaker 1: to them. And again, I'm not saying that means it's
Speaker 1: gonna lead to a hundred forty yards in the opener,
Speaker 1: but I do I've said it time and time again,
Speaker 1: and that we know what it's like when a rookie
Speaker 1: doesn't go out there and make plays. When you start
Speaker 1: to get two or three weeks in the camp and
Speaker 1: you really haven't noticed a guy yet. Both of those
Speaker 1: guys have gotten themselves noticed since the very beginning, and
Speaker 1: going back to Alan Lazard, there really is nothing more
Speaker 1: than you can say about this guy that catch, and
Speaker 1: you can do the blow by blow hunt it if
Speaker 1: you want it. Reminded me so much. Yes, of the
Speaker 1: Antonio Freeman that he's going to the ground two years ago, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the all kind of kicks off his leg and it
Speaker 1: ends up in his hands. But more and more that
Speaker 1: I see on Lazard the comp that I start drawing
Speaker 1: as Jordy Nelson because the way that he can utilize
Speaker 1: his body and can toward himself and make the point
Speaker 1: that the catch at the high point that I think
Speaker 1: is ultimately what his real hidden strength is, and I
Speaker 1: think you're going to see more of it this season
Speaker 1: with more targets. Ann Lazard is a professional football player.
Speaker 1: He's been a guy that has been a stud since
Speaker 1: high school and for whatever reason that led to him
Speaker 1: being undrafted free agent three years ago, this guy, I
Speaker 1: think is steadily proven that, you know what, everything I
Speaker 1: did at Iowa State, everything I did back in Urban Dale,
Speaker 1: this can translate to the National Football League, and Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers certainly has trusted him. Yeah, the um the deep
Speaker 1: ball to Lazard was it really was quite a highlight.
Speaker 1: I mean it was it was essentially almost like a
Speaker 1: jump ball deep down the middle of the field. It
Speaker 1: was Lazard against Adrian Amos, and Amos was in a
Speaker 1: good position as you could could be as as a
Speaker 1: safety trying to guard against a deep ball like that,
Speaker 1: but obviously Lazard is six ft five. He was able
Speaker 1: to out jump him to make the first contact with
Speaker 1: the ball, and then in kind of the the the
Speaker 1: jockeying and the fighting and the ball being deflected and everything,
Speaker 1: it eventually deflected off of off of Lazard's leg and
Speaker 1: then he was still able to grab it soccer background
Speaker 1: as he was as he was falling to the ground.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. As big a highlight as that was,
Speaker 1: and it's always fun to see a play like that,
Speaker 1: especially on the first day of practice, I thought the
Speaker 1: more telling play, perhaps with regard to Lazard, and I
Speaker 1: know you know what I'm about to say here was
Speaker 1: when Aaron Rodgers got the defense to jump offside and
Speaker 1: had a free play in the eleven on eleven where'd
Speaker 1: the ball go to? Allen Lazard, number thirteen was the
Speaker 1: guy to make the play, you know, just a simple
Speaker 1: you know, route over the middle and whatnot. But uh, um,
Speaker 1: but when Rodgers had a free play, his eyes were
Speaker 1: going to number thirteen. There, I thought that was And
Speaker 1: again it's one day, um, and I should say to
Speaker 1: follow up also on what you said, We saw some
Speaker 1: really good moments on the first day from Amari Rodgers,
Speaker 1: from Romeo Dobbs, from Samari to with those guys, you're looking, Okay,
Speaker 1: can they start stacking days now? Right? Can they? Can
Speaker 1: they put him together? Can they string together multiple good
Speaker 1: practices and then and work their way up instead of
Speaker 1: getting the occasional rep with Aaron Rodgers to maybe get
Speaker 1: more and more reps with Rogers because those guys were
Speaker 1: catching passes from all the different quarterbacks on day one.
Speaker 1: But uh, but Lizard for him to have the day
Speaker 1: one that he had when he was gone the entire offseason,
Speaker 1: was not here, did not sign his restricted free agent tender,
Speaker 1: so he wasn't even here for the mandatory minicamp because
Speaker 1: he didn't have to be. He wasn't technically under contract.
Speaker 1: He made that, you know, that was that was his
Speaker 1: own personal decision to kind of keep his off season
Speaker 1: to himself. And then uh, and then the first day here,
Speaker 1: he he shows up and really balls out at at
Speaker 1: Nichiki Field. That was impressed. Well, and I know so
Speaker 1: much has been made of the off season program, not
Speaker 1: just in Green Bay, but veterans taken part through across
Speaker 1: the league. When you see Lazard come back in the
Speaker 1: shape that he's in, though in the shape that Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers came back in. I mean, Mercedes Lewis, these guys
Speaker 1: put in the time. They know their bodies, they know
Speaker 1: their process, and I understand Matt Lafleur said it. You know,
Speaker 1: you want to have as many guys as you want
Speaker 1: during those nine weeks. You want all of them here. Uh.
Speaker 1: But I get the veteran's perspective on this. I understand
Speaker 1: the season's got one week longer now. I mean it's
Speaker 1: getting eat more and more. You and I were figuring
Speaker 1: that out. We were trying to figure out our PTO schedule.
Speaker 1: It's not it goes by fast. So for Lazard, you know,
Speaker 1: to be able to come back here, be in the
Speaker 1: shape that he's in, and then play and practice to
Speaker 1: the level in which he did, I think it shows
Speaker 1: that he put his time in good use. He went
Speaker 1: back to Iowa State, worked out with his his college coach.
Speaker 1: I mean, just just really focused on himself here and
Speaker 1: what is going to be a critical you know, two
Speaker 1: two thousand two seasons, Yeah, no question about it. I'll
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Speaker 1: in better. All right. You mentioned the return of Tom
Speaker 1: Clements as Aaron Rodgers position coach, and just when you
Speaker 1: thought perhaps Aaron Rodgers head exhausted all avenues for motivation, right,
Speaker 1: a guy who's entering his eighteenth season in the NFL,
Speaker 1: this is his eighteen training camp. How does a guy
Speaker 1: like that motivate himself to go out there? You know
Speaker 1: through You know, we're not even to the dog days yet,
Speaker 1: but for a guy like that, it's, you know, sort
Speaker 1: of everything maybe can feel like a dog day of
Speaker 1: summer when you've been doing this for so long. What
Speaker 1: is Aaron Rodgers tell reporters after practice when he gets
Speaker 1: that fist bump from Tom Clements for what turned out
Speaker 1: to be a pretty good day for the offense on
Speaker 1: day one and he and he said, yeah, those uh,
Speaker 1: those types of compliments from Tom clements can be difficult
Speaker 1: to come by. And he said, I wanted to show
Speaker 1: my old coach that I still had it right. That
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, coach, like I can still play right.
Speaker 1: And it was partly tongue in cheek, but yet in
Speaker 1: some ways not because because Rogers does find different avenues,
Speaker 1: find different ways to motivate himself to keep his level
Speaker 1: of play, even on just day one of Harvard many
Speaker 1: days training camp is going to last year. Um, and
Speaker 1: he did, and he did have a good day. It
Speaker 1: was it was impressive what the offense did. Now that
Speaker 1: being said, Rogers also said, hey, this is a darn
Speaker 1: good defense the Green May Packers have, and they're going
Speaker 1: to be some days in this camp during the installs, mate,
Speaker 1: whether it's during third down or red zone or the
Speaker 1: other city stuational periods they do. He says, we're going
Speaker 1: to take our lumps on offense because this defense is
Speaker 1: darn good. They're going to be days where they get
Speaker 1: the best of us. And he said, and that's going
Speaker 1: to be good for us as well, because as as
Speaker 1: this offense is making the transition to you know, a
Speaker 1: new receiving corps working in these guys on the offensive
Speaker 1: line who are filling in while other guys are out
Speaker 1: dealing with that kind of adversity and kind of getting
Speaker 1: it handed to them here and there from the defense,
Speaker 1: which Rogers does expect to happen, is going to be
Speaker 1: good for them in the long run. So the give
Speaker 1: and take here between the between this offense and this
Speaker 1: defense over the course of training camp is going to
Speaker 1: be fun to watch. Al Lazard said it too. I mean,
Speaker 1: not only just for him, these rookies, they're gonna be
Speaker 1: going up against one of the best secondaries of the
Speaker 1: National Football League for the next month. They're gonna see
Speaker 1: him day in day o jr. Alexander is a measuring
Speaker 1: stick for cornerback play right now in this league. Russell Douglas.
Speaker 1: I mean what he did last year and the fact
Speaker 1: that you know he's already aspiring for another five, six
Speaker 1: seven interceptions this season. And as you said, a guy
Speaker 1: like Eric Stokes that's men as young as he isn't
Speaker 1: being able to make the impact. They are going to
Speaker 1: take their lumps. I think what's most exciting for me
Speaker 1: watching this defense right now is I'm not saying you
Speaker 1: can just roll the ball out there and they're gonna
Speaker 1: just dominate everything. But this is the one time where
Speaker 1: in my time covering the defense and covering this team
Speaker 1: where I went out there and I looked and when
Speaker 1: they put out their first package, especially once Dean Lowry
Speaker 1: started practicing, I was like, where's the whole? I mean,
Speaker 1: you look at it across the board with with you know,
Speaker 1: kway Walker in there now too. You gotta stay healthy.
Speaker 1: Guys have to perform, but it's complete. If you're playing
Speaker 1: Madden and you're trying to build out your defense, you're
Speaker 1: starting eleven. The Packers got it. And the thing that's
Speaker 1: scary about it is they got young guys behind that.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about Davonte Wyatt right now. Ten years ago.
Speaker 1: Packers draft a defensive line in the first round. That's
Speaker 1: the story the first day of practice because they needed
Speaker 1: somebody to step up there. Colin Jenkins left, who's going
Speaker 1: to replace him? Packers are deep man and and seeing
Speaker 1: how that defense performs. And again there will be give
Speaker 1: and take between the offense and defense throughout camp, but
Speaker 1: that unit, if they're ready week one. I I just
Speaker 1: I think it's it's a huge cliche, but this guy
Speaker 1: truly is the limit for where that group could go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I agree with you, and yes, you cross your
Speaker 1: fingers for good health and uh. And with regard to
Speaker 1: you know, a young guy like Kay Walker, a guy
Speaker 1: like DeVante Wide who we know is going to be
Speaker 1: in the rotation, a second year guy like Eric Stokes,
Speaker 1: you just hope that all of the all of that
Speaker 1: cohesion with those younger guys and the veteran players, because
Speaker 1: that is that is quite the veteran defense. When you're
Speaker 1: talking about Jaire Alexandra Adrian, name is Preston Smith, Devandre Campbell.
Speaker 1: I mean there is there is a ton of NFL
Speaker 1: experience and quality NFL experience on that defense with a
Speaker 1: lot of young up and coming talent and if it
Speaker 1: comes together right, you know, and that's what this training
Speaker 1: campus for is all these reps the guys are going
Speaker 1: to get day after day after day on the practice
Speaker 1: field pads are not um. That's where you're you're hoping
Speaker 1: it comes together from a cohesion standpoint, and then in
Speaker 1: week one, this is this is going to be the
Speaker 1: unit that is that is ready to roll from the
Speaker 1: get go and look at the player acquisition phase of
Speaker 1: this right. Eric Stokes shows you why the draft matters,
Speaker 1: why it matters to hit on your first round draft picks.
Speaker 1: Chris Barnes shows you why it's great to find undrafted rookies,
Speaker 1: the diamonds and the rough the guys that got passed
Speaker 1: up two or fifty six times, but still we're there
Speaker 1: and that can prove to be real capable NFL talent.
Speaker 1: It shows you why unrestricted free agency matters when you
Speaker 1: look at a guy like you know, Jaren Reid coming in,
Speaker 1: Adrian Amos on the back end, Preston Smith on the edge,
Speaker 1: and more importantly, as we've talked about time and time again,
Speaker 1: now why street free agency matters. Why when a guy
Speaker 1: like Rasseul Douglas comes in, what he can do, Devandre
Speaker 1: Campbell being still out there in June, why those guys
Speaker 1: are being brought in. The Packers built that defense. It
Speaker 1: wasn't one specific thing. They didn't buy it, they didn't
Speaker 1: draft it, they didn't claim it off waivers. It was
Speaker 1: a sum of the whole. And I think that's why
Speaker 1: the ceiling and why when you get all of that
Speaker 1: to come into alignment, why the potential is so great. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: one other topic to touch on before we go, because
Speaker 1: I know a lot of fans are are curious, concern
Speaker 1: whatnot with what's going on. We did get an update
Speaker 1: on David Baktier, the five time All Pro left tackle.
Speaker 1: Brian Goudacounts before the first practice on Wednesday, was asked
Speaker 1: about him. UM a couple of key things that he said. One,
Speaker 1: he was asked whether um he had any concerns that
Speaker 1: Baktr could eventually get back to his All Pro level,
Speaker 1: and he said no, even as long as this layoff
Speaker 1: has been and whatnot, he has all the confidence in
Speaker 1: the world that bat will eventually get there. But the
Speaker 1: reason that this has taken so long is a Gudacoon's
Speaker 1: revealed that this was not just a garden variety a
Speaker 1: c L tear from December of This was a much
Speaker 1: more complicated injury. UM we knew that that bok Tr
Speaker 1: last year had already had a second sort of follow
Speaker 1: up procedure, and then Goudacunts revealed that this past offseason,
Speaker 1: bok Tr he had yet another procedure, and then bak
Speaker 1: Tr he spoke to reporters after practice to uh to
Speaker 1: add a little more clarity to the situation as well. Now,
Speaker 1: he wasn't making any predictions, not giving any timeline as
Speaker 1: far as when he's going to be back, but he
Speaker 1: said three things that I thought were really really important.
Speaker 1: One that he's no longer dealing with the a c L.
Speaker 1: That what's going on with the knee is the is
Speaker 1: other issues now. And he didn't get into the specifics,
Speaker 1: but he said the a T the a c L
Speaker 1: has been has been put to bed. That's that that rehab,
Speaker 1: that recovery has done. And over with Two he said,
Speaker 1: yet this has been a nightmare. I mean the the
Speaker 1: he had no obviously had no idea that that he
Speaker 1: was going to get into this type of recovery with
Speaker 1: all sorts of fits and starts and ups and downs,
Speaker 1: and and that that here we are, um in July
Speaker 1: of two and he's not back on the practice field.
Speaker 1: But then he also said with regard to his his
Speaker 1: concern level for his future and he says, my concern
Speaker 1: level is low. UM. Now, he's not going to predict
Speaker 1: when he's going to be back on the field, but
Speaker 1: David Bactieri is confident that he's going to get there um,
Speaker 1: and it's just a matter of as patient as everybody
Speaker 1: has had to be throughout this whole thing, the patients
Speaker 1: needs to continue because bat is putting in the work.
Speaker 1: He plans to get back out there at some point,
Speaker 1: and we just have to wait until that day arrived. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And as Aaron Rodgers said too, I mean, you gotta remember,
Speaker 1: this is a guy that he wants to not just
Speaker 1: be an All Pro left tackle, he wants to be
Speaker 1: an All Pro left tackle for the next four or
Speaker 1: five six seasons. Um, this has been frustrating. I can't
Speaker 1: imagine what has been going on. I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: either to perform at the level he did, to be
Speaker 1: as durable as he was, to to have everything come
Speaker 1: to fruition in his career. It was the beginning of
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame career that still very well might
Speaker 1: end up in Canton. To to have to do a
Speaker 1: full stop on that, I understand, Packer fans, can you
Speaker 1: know patients can be tough, But the work that he's
Speaker 1: put into us, I don't think it's it's you can
Speaker 1: deny it. And as I wrote an inbox this week,
Speaker 1: don't count this guy out. Don't bet against him, because no,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't either if he's back. I mean, you look
Speaker 1: at what some franchises have gone through, what Washington has
Speaker 1: gone through, you know, trying to replace Trent Williams. Some
Speaker 1: of these Francis. These guys, much like quarterbacks, aren't just
Speaker 1: all out there. It's the elite ones make a huge difference.
Speaker 1: And as I've written, as I've written multiple times in
Speaker 1: inbox as well, it's one thing to be able to
Speaker 1: win games in the regular season, put yourself in the
Speaker 1: playoffs and whatnot, as the Packers have done when Bok
Speaker 1: tr has been has been sidelined. It's another thing to
Speaker 1: be in the playoffs and beat the best teams in
Speaker 1: the league. When you don't have your best guys, and
Speaker 1: the Packers have, the Packers have missed as as great
Speaker 1: a job as the offensive lineman, the backups, the coaches,
Speaker 1: everybody has done to put the Packers in the position
Speaker 1: they've been in the last couple of years despite all
Speaker 1: the injuries. The bottom line is not having their best
Speaker 1: guys in the biggest games has shown up and and
Speaker 1: if the Packers are going to get where they want
Speaker 1: to go in two I think David Bakti needs to
Speaker 1: be a big part of it. So you cross your
Speaker 1: fingers that that eventually this long nightmare for him will
Speaker 1: be in the past. And I'm not the training staff,
Speaker 1: I'm not Doc Mackenzie. I don't know what those conversations
Speaker 1: are like. But if it was me, the only advice
Speaker 1: I give is just breathe. Just focus on this day
Speaker 1: and what's in front of you. The Packers will be
Speaker 1: better the day that number sixty nine is back on
Speaker 1: the field. Still, that day it has to fully be
Speaker 1: on David bock Terry making sure his body's right so
Speaker 1: that when that day comes, he's ready for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no question about it. With that, we'll call it a
Speaker 1: wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure follow
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