1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West and Hodkoitz. We're coming to 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: you here from our studios at lambeau Field West. One 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: practice of training camp is in the books as we 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: record this episode, and I want to start this one 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: sort of picking up where we left off on our 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: last episode, because two major topics that we talked about 9 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: heading into training camp were with regard to the fact 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: that David Batr and Elton Jenkins would not be practicing 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: on the offensive line, and that Christian Watson and Sammy 12 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: Watkins would also not be starting to practice just yet 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: at the wide receiver position. We were wondering what would 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: be happening with those two position groups, and the early 15 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: answer is that on the offensive line, Jake hands And 16 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: is running with the ones as the starting right guard 17 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: for now, and at wide receiver, Jowan Winfrey was in 18 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: the huddle with the starters for a considerable amount of 19 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: the first team reps in the first practice. So start 20 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: wherever you'd like. I'll toss it over to you to 21 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: get your thoughts on those early developments here in camp. Well, 22 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: we'll start the offensive line because I think there's a 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: lot of different ways you and I can go with 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: the receivers here in a moment. But the Jake Hanson 25 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: thing is interesting because the Packers have had six weeks 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: to think about this. We saw the alignment during the 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: off season program. Most of it was Yashneiman at left 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: tackle and Cole van Land in the sixth round pick 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: from two years ago over at right tackle. They made 30 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: that adjustment. Now Royce Newman is bumping out to right tackle. 31 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: The conversation you and I had earlier this week about 32 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: where you slot him, but Jake Hanson is the first 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: one up. Now. That doesn't surprise me in terms of 34 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: the rookies. Typically they're not going to push them into 35 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: that spot. But this is a million dollar opportunity for 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: Jake Hanson. Question. This is the guy that was basically 37 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: a four year starter at center for Oregon. He has 38 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: that hip type injury whatever it was his rookie season. 39 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: He doesn't make the roster. He's on the practice squad 40 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: all season. He has the operation. It was on the 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: fifty three all last year. I don't think a lot 42 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: of people realize that, and he's kind of sort he's 43 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: like been the opposite of of Lucas Patrick in a way, 44 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: and where Lucas was a guard at Duke and they 45 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: transition him to being a center, Hansen's had to do 46 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: more and more guard the last two years. So the 47 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: Packers need that type of player. They need a guy 48 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: that can be an interior potential starter, but also give 49 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: them some flexibility as a backup to Josh Meyers, who 50 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: missed eleven games last year. You never know when you 51 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: need to call upon that person. Zack Tom was moving 52 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: around at left tackle, he played some guard, you know. 53 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: It really seemed like the focus there was with Sean 54 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: Ryan at right guard. So they're gonna allow these young 55 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: guys to to sort of develop and come along. But 56 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: from right out of the gate, Jake Hansen's getting that 57 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: chance there to run with the first team unit. Yeah, 58 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: and just to clarify, that first team unit on the 59 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: offensive line left to right was Josh Naiman, John Runyon, 60 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: Josh Meyers in the middle, than Jake Hansen and Royce 61 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: Newman on the right side, and also Hansen working as 62 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: the center with the number two units. So when you 63 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: talk about an opportunity for a guy to uh to 64 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: not only make the roster at a very crowded position 65 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: when everybody's healthy, um, but the potentially you know, work 66 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: his way into into a more I guess you'd say 67 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: a more elevated role even if when everybody's healthy, Jake 68 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: Hanson might be a backup when it's all said and done, 69 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: but a more elevated role in sort of that next 70 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: man up hierarchy with with how this shakes out. And yes, 71 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: we don't know exactly when bok T is going to 72 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: be back. We continue to see Elton Jenkins working with 73 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: the rehab group as expected for an a c L 74 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: that occurred in in mid November, but at some point 75 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: the Packers are hoping to be back at full strength 76 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: on the offensive line, and it's going to be very 77 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: interesting to see just how all the dominoes line up 78 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: at that point. Yeah, and as you said, there very 79 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: well couldn't be that Jake Hanson ends up as a 80 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: backup where you look at a situation like last year 81 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: where you know, Royce Newman comes out of nowhere after 82 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: being in the competition at at right tackle to end 83 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: up being the starting guard two weeks into camp. John 84 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: Runyon didn't start the opener, but then Lucas Patrick has 85 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: the concussion against the Saints and he's the left guard 86 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Yeah, so you never know 87 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: how the dominoes are gonna fall. Just the fact that 88 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: Hansen's getting this shot right away. Again, you're looking to 89 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: hold serve if your hands and you're looking to tell 90 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: the Packers, yes, you've drafted these guys, but but I 91 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: can handle this job too. Yeah. Absolutely, Well. Add wide 92 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: receiver as mentioned, Jowan Winfrey was in there with the 93 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: with the starting offense and it didn't take long. I 94 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: believe it was the second eleven on eleven period of practice. 95 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: Winfrey was lined up split out to the right one 96 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: on one against Eric Stokes and it was clearly clearly 97 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: single coverage based on the way the defense was lined up, 98 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: and uh and Aaron Rodgers gave him the go route. 99 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: He uh, he took off Eric Stokes had he darn 100 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: good coverage on the play. Um Rogers through a perfect ball. 101 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: Winfrey made a diving catch, really really impressive play and 102 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: and Uh both those players talked about it afterward in 103 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: the locker room. It was a moment of Rogers where 104 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: he was sending a message to Winfrey like all right, 105 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: you know, I I trust you here. Let's get let's 106 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: get this done right and uh. And it was Winfrey 107 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: feeling that boost of confidence from that trust from the 108 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: quarterback that all right, this guy, this guy's got my back, 109 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: he's you know, and I'm gonna come through for him. 110 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: I thought the Almaz Art catch, which we'll talk about 111 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: in a minute, was definitely the highlight reel of highlight 112 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: reel plays of the first practice. But I wrote about 113 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: the fact that I thought the most important play, if 114 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: you want to talk big picture here, the most important 115 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: play of the first day of practice in my mind 116 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,119 Speaker 1: was the deep ball to Winfrey. It was Mike because 117 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: of what it means for Jowan Winfrey, Alan's Art. Certainly, 118 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: that's a play that happened. We'll talk about in a second. 119 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Rod just will be thinking about that week three 120 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: if that type of defensive alignment works out and he 121 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: needs to give his guy a chance. But ultimately, Winfrey 122 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: is the type of guy that needs to make plays 123 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: to make this team. And Mike, we've seen it for 124 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: two off seasons. He he really had that coming out party. 125 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: I would I would put him up there as one 126 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: of the m v p s. Him and Jordan's love. 127 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: They had a synergy going on there. But then he 128 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: hurts the hamstring. He isn't able to play in the preseason. Yeah, 129 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: it knocked him out of the out of action for 130 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: an extended period of time. Yeah. If this guy is 131 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: just able to get to that first preseason game in 132 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: San Francisco, I'm really excited to see what he can do. 133 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: Good size for the position, you know, he had a 134 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: good makeup. I believe he was a six round pick 135 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: or somewhere around the sixth round pick by the Broncos 136 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: in Yeah, so it's not like this guy's just completely 137 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: coming out of nowhere. But it's just a matter of 138 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: if he can stay healthy and keep making the most 139 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: of these opportunities. One of the reasons I wanted to 140 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: delay the conversation with the receivers is because it goes 141 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: back to something Aaron Rodgers said in the group huddle 142 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: you were with him and Tom Clements, the Packers quarterbacks coach, 143 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: longtime assistant. He's not the type of guy that's sitting 144 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: there doing like dabs and like you know, pattent guys 145 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: on the back it's pretty stoic individual. But after that, 146 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: in addition to kind of cracking a smile at a 147 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: few points, given Rogers a fist pump. Aaron Rodgers doesn't 148 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: have the day that he did coming out of the 149 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: gates if his receivers aren't making plays for him. And 150 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: whether it was Winfrey, whether it was Romeo Dobbs and 151 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: Samari too Ray, two rookies that have come in and Mike, 152 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: I've said it time and time again. They have not blanked. 153 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: These guys have made every opportunity that has been presented 154 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: to them. And again, I'm not saying that means it's 155 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: gonna lead to a hundred forty yards in the opener, 156 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: but I do I've said it time and time again, 157 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: and that we know what it's like when a rookie 158 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: doesn't go out there and make plays. When you start 159 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: to get two or three weeks in the camp and 160 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: you really haven't noticed a guy yet. Both of those 161 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: guys have gotten themselves noticed since the very beginning, and 162 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: going back to Alan Lazard, there really is nothing more 163 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: than you can say about this guy that catch, and 164 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: you can do the blow by blow hunt it if 165 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: you want it. Reminded me so much. Yes, of the 166 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: Antonio Freeman that he's going to the ground two years ago, Yeah, 167 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: the all kind of kicks off his leg and it 168 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: ends up in his hands. But more and more that 169 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: I see on Lazard the comp that I start drawing 170 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: as Jordy Nelson because the way that he can utilize 171 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 1: his body and can toward himself and make the point 172 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: that the catch at the high point that I think 173 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: is ultimately what his real hidden strength is, and I 174 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: think you're going to see more of it this season 175 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: with more targets. Ann Lazard is a professional football player. 176 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: He's been a guy that has been a stud since 177 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: high school and for whatever reason that led to him 178 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: being undrafted free agent three years ago, this guy, I 179 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: think is steadily proven that, you know what, everything I 180 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: did at Iowa State, everything I did back in Urban Dale, 181 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: this can translate to the National Football League, and Aaron 182 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: Rodgers certainly has trusted him. Yeah, the um the deep 183 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: ball to Lazard was it really was quite a highlight. 184 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: I mean it was it was essentially almost like a 185 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: jump ball deep down the middle of the field. It 186 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: was Lazard against Adrian Amos, and Amos was in a 187 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: good position as you could could be as as a 188 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: safety trying to guard against a deep ball like that, 189 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: but obviously Lazard is six ft five. He was able 190 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: to out jump him to make the first contact with 191 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: the ball, and then in kind of the the the 192 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: jockeying and the fighting and the ball being deflected and everything, 193 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: it eventually deflected off of off of Lazard's leg and 194 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: then he was still able to grab it soccer background 195 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: as he was as he was falling to the ground. 196 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. As big a highlight as that was, 197 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: and it's always fun to see a play like that, 198 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: especially on the first day of practice, I thought the 199 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: more telling play, perhaps with regard to Lazard, and I 200 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: know you know what I'm about to say here was 201 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: when Aaron Rodgers got the defense to jump offside and 202 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: had a free play in the eleven on eleven where'd 203 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: the ball go to? Allen Lazard, number thirteen was the 204 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: guy to make the play, you know, just a simple 205 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, route over the middle and whatnot. But uh, um, 206 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: but when Rodgers had a free play, his eyes were 207 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: going to number thirteen. There, I thought that was And 208 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: again it's one day, um, and I should say to 209 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: follow up also on what you said, We saw some 210 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: really good moments on the first day from Amari Rodgers, 211 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: from Romeo Dobbs, from Samari to with those guys, you're looking, Okay, 212 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: can they start stacking days now? Right? Can they? Can 213 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: they put him together? Can they string together multiple good 214 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: practices and then and work their way up instead of 215 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: getting the occasional rep with Aaron Rodgers to maybe get 216 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: more and more reps with Rogers because those guys were 217 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: catching passes from all the different quarterbacks on day one. 218 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: But uh, but Lizard for him to have the day 219 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: one that he had when he was gone the entire offseason, 220 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: was not here, did not sign his restricted free agent tender, 221 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: so he wasn't even here for the mandatory minicamp because 222 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: he didn't have to be. He wasn't technically under contract. 223 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: He made that, you know, that was that was his 224 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: own personal decision to kind of keep his off season 225 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: to himself. And then uh, and then the first day here, 226 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: he he shows up and really balls out at at 227 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: Nichiki Field. That was impressed. Well, and I know so 228 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: much has been made of the off season program, not 229 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: just in Green Bay, but veterans taken part through across 230 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: the league. When you see Lazard come back in the 231 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: shape that he's in, though in the shape that Aaron 232 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: Rodgers came back in. I mean, Mercedes Lewis, these guys 233 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: put in the time. They know their bodies, they know 234 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: their process, and I understand Matt Lafleur said it. You know, 235 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: you want to have as many guys as you want 236 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: during those nine weeks. You want all of them here. Uh. 237 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: But I get the veteran's perspective on this. I understand 238 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: the season's got one week longer now. I mean it's 239 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: getting eat more and more. You and I were figuring 240 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: that out. We were trying to figure out our PTO schedule. 241 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: It's not it goes by fast. So for Lazard, you know, 242 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: to be able to come back here, be in the 243 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: shape that he's in, and then play and practice to 244 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: the level in which he did, I think it shows 245 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: that he put his time in good use. He went 246 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: back to Iowa State, worked out with his his college coach. 247 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: I mean, just just really focused on himself here and 248 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: what is going to be a critical you know, two 249 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: two thousand two seasons, Yeah, no question about it. 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You mentioned the return of Tom 259 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: Clements as Aaron Rodgers position coach, and just when you 260 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: thought perhaps Aaron Rodgers head exhausted all avenues for motivation, right, 261 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: a guy who's entering his eighteenth season in the NFL, 262 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: this is his eighteen training camp. How does a guy 263 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: like that motivate himself to go out there? You know 264 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: through You know, we're not even to the dog days yet, 265 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: but for a guy like that, it's, you know, sort 266 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: of everything maybe can feel like a dog day of 267 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: summer when you've been doing this for so long. What 268 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: is Aaron Rodgers tell reporters after practice when he gets 269 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: that fist bump from Tom Clements for what turned out 270 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: to be a pretty good day for the offense on 271 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: day one and he and he said, yeah, those uh, 272 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: those types of compliments from Tom clements can be difficult 273 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: to come by. And he said, I wanted to show 274 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: my old coach that I still had it right. That 275 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 1: He's like, hey, coach, like I can still play right. 276 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: And it was partly tongue in cheek, but yet in 277 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: some ways not because because Rogers does find different avenues, 278 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: find different ways to motivate himself to keep his level 279 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: of play, even on just day one of Harvard many 280 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: days training camp is going to last year. Um, and 281 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: he did, and he did have a good day. It 282 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: was it was impressive what the offense did. Now that 283 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: being said, Rogers also said, hey, this is a darn 284 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: good defense the Green May Packers have, and they're going 285 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: to be some days in this camp during the installs, mate, 286 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: whether it's during third down or red zone or the 287 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: other city stuational periods they do. He says, we're going 288 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: to take our lumps on offense because this defense is 289 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: darn good. They're going to be days where they get 290 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: the best of us. And he said, and that's going 291 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: to be good for us as well, because as as 292 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: this offense is making the transition to you know, a 293 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: new receiving corps working in these guys on the offensive 294 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: line who are filling in while other guys are out 295 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: dealing with that kind of adversity and kind of getting 296 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: it handed to them here and there from the defense, 297 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: which Rogers does expect to happen, is going to be 298 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: good for them in the long run. So the give 299 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: and take here between the between this offense and this 300 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: defense over the course of training camp is going to 301 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: be fun to watch. Al Lazard said it too. I mean, 302 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: not only just for him, these rookies, they're gonna be 303 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: going up against one of the best secondaries of the 304 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: National Football League for the next month. They're gonna see 305 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: him day in day o jr. Alexander is a measuring 306 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: stick for cornerback play right now in this league. Russell Douglas. 307 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: I mean what he did last year and the fact 308 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: that you know he's already aspiring for another five, six 309 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: seven interceptions this season. And as you said, a guy 310 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: like Eric Stokes that's men as young as he isn't 311 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: being able to make the impact. They are going to 312 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: take their lumps. I think what's most exciting for me 313 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: watching this defense right now is I'm not saying you 314 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: can just roll the ball out there and they're gonna 315 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: just dominate everything. But this is the one time where 316 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: in my time covering the defense and covering this team 317 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: where I went out there and I looked and when 318 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: they put out their first package, especially once Dean Lowry 319 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: started practicing, I was like, where's the whole? I mean, 320 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: you look at it across the board with with you know, 321 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: kway Walker in there now too. You gotta stay healthy. 322 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: Guys have to perform, but it's complete. If you're playing 323 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: Madden and you're trying to build out your defense, you're 324 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: starting eleven. The Packers got it. And the thing that's 325 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: scary about it is they got young guys behind that. 326 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about Davonte Wyatt right now. Ten years ago. 327 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: Packers draft a defensive line in the first round. That's 328 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: the story the first day of practice because they needed 329 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: somebody to step up there. Colin Jenkins left, who's going 330 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: to replace him? Packers are deep man and and seeing 331 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: how that defense performs. And again there will be give 332 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: and take between the offense and defense throughout camp, but 333 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: that unit, if they're ready week one. I I just 334 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: I think it's it's a huge cliche, but this guy 335 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: truly is the limit for where that group could go. Yeah, 336 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: I I agree with you, and yes, you cross your 337 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: fingers for good health and uh. And with regard to 338 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: you know, a young guy like Kay Walker, a guy 339 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: like DeVante Wide who we know is going to be 340 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: in the rotation, a second year guy like Eric Stokes, 341 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: you just hope that all of the all of that 342 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: cohesion with those younger guys and the veteran players, because 343 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: that is that is quite the veteran defense. When you're 344 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: talking about Jaire Alexandra Adrian, name is Preston Smith, Devandre Campbell. 345 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: I mean there is there is a ton of NFL 346 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: experience and quality NFL experience on that defense with a 347 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: lot of young up and coming talent and if it 348 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: comes together right, you know, and that's what this training 349 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: campus for is all these reps the guys are going 350 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: to get day after day after day on the practice 351 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: field pads are not um. That's where you're you're hoping 352 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: it comes together from a cohesion standpoint, and then in 353 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: week one, this is this is going to be the 354 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: unit that is that is ready to roll from the 355 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: get go and look at the player acquisition phase of 356 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: this right. Eric Stokes shows you why the draft matters, 357 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: why it matters to hit on your first round draft picks. 358 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: Chris Barnes shows you why it's great to find undrafted rookies, 359 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: the diamonds and the rough the guys that got passed 360 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: up two or fifty six times, but still we're there 361 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: and that can prove to be real capable NFL talent. 362 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: It shows you why unrestricted free agency matters when you 363 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: look at a guy like you know, Jaren Reid coming in, 364 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: Adrian Amos on the back end, Preston Smith on the edge, 365 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: and more importantly, as we've talked about time and time again, 366 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: now why street free agency matters. Why when a guy 367 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: like Rasseul Douglas comes in, what he can do, Devandre 368 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: Campbell being still out there in June, why those guys 369 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: are being brought in. The Packers built that defense. It 370 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: wasn't one specific thing. They didn't buy it, they didn't 371 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: draft it, they didn't claim it off waivers. It was 372 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: a sum of the whole. And I think that's why 373 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: the ceiling and why when you get all of that 374 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: to come into alignment, why the potential is so great. Yeah, Well, 375 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: one other topic to touch on before we go, because 376 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: I know a lot of fans are are curious, concern 377 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: whatnot with what's going on. We did get an update 378 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: on David Baktier, the five time All Pro left tackle. 379 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: Brian Goudacounts before the first practice on Wednesday, was asked 380 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: about him. UM a couple of key things that he said. One, 381 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: he was asked whether um he had any concerns that 382 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: Baktr could eventually get back to his All Pro level, 383 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: and he said no, even as long as this layoff 384 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: has been and whatnot, he has all the confidence in 385 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: the world that bat will eventually get there. But the 386 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: reason that this has taken so long is a Gudacoon's 387 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: revealed that this was not just a garden variety a 388 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: c L tear from December of This was a much 389 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: more complicated injury. UM we knew that that bok Tr 390 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: last year had already had a second sort of follow 391 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: up procedure, and then Goudacunts revealed that this past offseason, 392 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: bok Tr he had yet another procedure, and then bak 393 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: Tr he spoke to reporters after practice to uh to 394 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: add a little more clarity to the situation as well. Now, 395 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: he wasn't making any predictions, not giving any timeline as 396 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: far as when he's going to be back, but he 397 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: said three things that I thought were really really important. 398 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: One that he's no longer dealing with the a c L. 399 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: That what's going on with the knee is the is 400 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: other issues now. And he didn't get into the specifics, 401 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: but he said the a T the a c L 402 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: has been has been put to bed. That's that that rehab, 403 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: that recovery has done. And over with Two he said, 404 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: yet this has been a nightmare. I mean the the 405 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: he had no obviously had no idea that that he 406 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: was going to get into this type of recovery with 407 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: all sorts of fits and starts and ups and downs, 408 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: and and that that here we are, um in July 409 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: of two and he's not back on the practice field. 410 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: But then he also said with regard to his his 411 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: concern level for his future and he says, my concern 412 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: level is low. UM. Now, he's not going to predict 413 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: when he's going to be back on the field, but 414 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: David Bactieri is confident that he's going to get there um, 415 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: and it's just a matter of as patient as everybody 416 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: has had to be throughout this whole thing, the patients 417 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: needs to continue because bat is putting in the work. 418 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: He plans to get back out there at some point, 419 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: and we just have to wait until that day arrived. Yeah. 420 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: And as Aaron Rodgers said too, I mean, you gotta remember, 421 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: this is a guy that he wants to not just 422 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: be an All Pro left tackle, he wants to be 423 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: an All Pro left tackle for the next four or 424 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: five six seasons. Um, this has been frustrating. I can't 425 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: imagine what has been going on. I can't. I can't 426 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: either to perform at the level he did, to be 427 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: as durable as he was, to to have everything come 428 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: to fruition in his career. It was the beginning of 429 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame career that still very well might 430 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: end up in Canton. To to have to do a 431 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: full stop on that, I understand, Packer fans, can you 432 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: know patients can be tough, But the work that he's 433 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: put into us, I don't think it's it's you can 434 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: deny it. And as I wrote an inbox this week, 435 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: don't count this guy out. Don't bet against him, because no, 436 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't either if he's back. I mean, you look 437 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: at what some franchises have gone through, what Washington has 438 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: gone through, you know, trying to replace Trent Williams. Some 439 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: of these Francis. These guys, much like quarterbacks, aren't just 440 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: all out there. It's the elite ones make a huge difference. 441 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: And as I've written, as I've written multiple times in 442 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: inbox as well, it's one thing to be able to 443 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: win games in the regular season, put yourself in the 444 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: playoffs and whatnot, as the Packers have done when Bok 445 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: tr has been has been sidelined. It's another thing to 446 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: be in the playoffs and beat the best teams in 447 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: the league. When you don't have your best guys, and 448 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: the Packers have, the Packers have missed as as great 449 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: a job as the offensive lineman, the backups, the coaches, 450 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: everybody has done to put the Packers in the position 451 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: they've been in the last couple of years despite all 452 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: the injuries. The bottom line is not having their best 453 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: guys in the biggest games has shown up and and 454 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: if the Packers are going to get where they want 455 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: to go in two I think David Bakti needs to 456 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,239 Speaker 1: be a big part of it. So you cross your 457 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: fingers that that eventually this long nightmare for him will 458 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: be in the past. And I'm not the training staff, 459 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: I'm not Doc Mackenzie. I don't know what those conversations 460 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: are like. But if it was me, the only advice 461 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,959 Speaker 1: I give is just breathe. Just focus on this day 462 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: and what's in front of you. The Packers will be 463 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: better the day that number sixty nine is back on 464 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: the field. Still, that day it has to fully be 465 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: on David bock Terry making sure his body's right so 466 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: that when that day comes, he's ready for it. Yeah, 467 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: no question about it. With that, we'll call it a 468 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure follow 469 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: all of our coverage of the team of training Camp. 470 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: We've got all kinds of content for you on Packers 471 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: dot Com. For West, I'm Mike. Thank you for tuning in, everybody. 472 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time.