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Speaker 2: we're gonna get to it all, of course, across the board,

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Speaker 2: multiple subjects, and of course we've got brand new Fool

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Speaker 2: what my Name to? And Pacific more arousing editions of that,

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Speaker 2: but we began with the obvious. You know, there's an

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Speaker 2: old story recently. I understand that Lebron James was walking

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Speaker 2: down the beach pondering life, and he came across a

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Speaker 2: genie in a bottle and easy rub the bottle. A

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Speaker 2: genie came out and Lebron says, do I get three wishes?

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Speaker 2: And the genie says, no, I'm god, I'm not a genie,

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Speaker 2: but you only get one wish, but it can be

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Speaker 2: anything you want. And Lebron said, well, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'd like to take a trip to Hawaii. But I

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Speaker 2: thought it might be nice if we could somehow drive

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Speaker 2: to Hawaii. That'd be so cool. Maybe you could construct

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Speaker 2: a highway from California to Hawaii. And God says, oh,

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Speaker 2: my goodness, that's a tough ask. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: even I could do that. Is there anything else, anything

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Speaker 2: else I could do for you? And Lebron says, could

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Speaker 2: you maybe turn Bronni into a legitimate NBA player? And

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Speaker 2: God looked at Lebron and says, do you want that

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Speaker 2: highway in two lanes or four lanes?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: The dictionary defiance. Curiosity is a strong desire to.

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Speaker 3: Learn or know something.

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Speaker 2: I certainly consider myself a very curious person, and I

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Speaker 2: consider myself intellectually curious.

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Speaker 3: Let's go back to two thousand and three March.

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Speaker 2: We heard about the hype surrounding this young man in

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Speaker 2: Ohio named Lebron James. I became curious. I was with

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Speaker 2: CBS Radio ninety seven one in Detroit at the time.

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Speaker 2: Took a drive down to Saint Vincent Mary St. Vincent

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Speaker 2: Saint Mary High School to see a game, and I did,

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Speaker 2: and I saw Lebron James.

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Speaker 3: Play in person. When he was eighteen years old, and the.

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Speaker 2: Curiosity was satisfied. I looked at him and I said,

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Speaker 2: my goodness, he's got an NBA body, he's got an

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Speaker 2: NFL body. He's got superb handles, he's got guard handles,

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Speaker 2: he has tremendous court sense. He seemed very mature and unselfish.

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Speaker 2: He probably could have scored seventy five points that night,

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Speaker 2: but he didn't. He set up his teammates, played basketball

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Speaker 2: within the framework of the way basketball should be played,

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Speaker 2: as it is in back the team game.

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Speaker 3: I said to myself, is he projectable? You bet?

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Speaker 2: You could put this guy in an NBA game right now.

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Speaker 2: And sure enough, seven months later, he was in an

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Speaker 2: NBA game. By the way, about three months later, he

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Speaker 2: played in his first Summer League game fourteen point seven,

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Speaker 2: fourteen points, seven rebounds, seven points, and he very much

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Speaker 2: looked a part hold that thought. I moved to Las

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Speaker 2: Vegas in February twenty ten, and a year before, young

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Speaker 2: man by the name of Bryce Harper, sixteen year old

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Speaker 2: Bryce Harper was on the cover of Sports Illustrated and

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Speaker 2: I was kind of bored one week and I had

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Speaker 2: just moved here. Turned out, Bryce Harper seventeen year old

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Speaker 2: I said, I gotta see this. I drove out there.

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Speaker 2: Bryce Harper was nine for twelve in the double header

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Speaker 2: there that day. Was he projectable?

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Speaker 3: Very much? So?

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Speaker 2: Obviously, fourteen years later you see the kind of career

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Speaker 2: in my second year of doing Rebel Extra, a pre

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Speaker 2: and postgame show for UNLV run of Rebel Basketball began

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Speaker 2: A gentleman on our team by the name of Anthony Bennett,

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Speaker 2: a highly highly recruited player out of Canada and was

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Speaker 2: projected to be a very high draft choice. Anthony Bennett

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Speaker 2: was a pretty decent college player great, no decent, yes,

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Speaker 3: He was the number one.

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Speaker 2: Pick overall, and in common parlance, he's referred to as

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Speaker 2: the biggest bust in the history of the NBA. I'm

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Speaker 2: repeating what I was told. I don't like to put

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Speaker 2: your least favorite Noodlan played a spaghetti but he did

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Speaker 2: not succeed as an NBA player. And then looking back,

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Speaker 2: you could ask yourself, well, were there red flags?

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Speaker 3: Well? I thought they were. I mean I.

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Speaker 2: Saw courtside games against Air Force where he got lost

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Speaker 3: He had great difficulty defending.

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Speaker 2: He had some athleticism, but not elite athleticism, and his

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Speaker 2: there were red flags. I saw them, and people wrote

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Speaker 2: about them much later. It turned out he was undersized

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Speaker 2: And you know, although other red flags included allegations like

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Speaker 2: his work ethic wasn't great, then we found out he

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Speaker 2: had sleep apnea and asthma, and many of those things

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Speaker 2: didn't start circulating till after he was drafted. But the

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Speaker 2: moral of the story is he left clues right away.

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Speaker 2: I covered that Summer League. I started covering the Summer

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Speaker 2: cover it last year. I've actually lost interest in covering

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Speaker 2: the Summer League. But you put him on I saw you.

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Speaker 2: I saw Anthony Bennett in a Summer League game, and

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Speaker 2: he just looked like another dude on the floor. That's

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Speaker 2: a problem. The Summer League is maybe twenty percent of

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Speaker 2: a real NBA game. So let's fast forward to earlier today.

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Speaker 2: I also became curious. I wasn't at the game in person,

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Speaker 2: but I certainly watched it on TV because this whole

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Speaker 2: charade has to do with appeasing. The insecurities are appeasing,

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Speaker 2: you know, the desires of an insecure man. It's all

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Speaker 2: about Lebron wanting his son not only just be the NBA,

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Speaker 2: but to be drafted into the NBA. I mean, Ben

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Speaker 2: Wallace was a Hall of Famer never drafted. I can

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Speaker 2: give you a bunch of guys that were great players,

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Speaker 3: By the way, you.

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Speaker 2: Never know you get a fifty fifth manager. You know,

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Speaker 2: we was drafted fifty seven. Isaiah Thomas, not the original

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Speaker 2: Isaiah Thomas, the one who chipped his tooth of few

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Speaker 3: He was drafted like fifty eighth. You might get a

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Speaker 3: diamond in the rough if you want, you know, Bronni

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Speaker 3: to be an NBA player, You bring him in the camp,

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Speaker 3: find work him out, and you decide whether or not

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Speaker 2: Maybe you can, maybe you think he can. But the

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Speaker 2: minute you wanted him draft to change the dynamics. So

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Speaker 2: I was curious as to what I would see, just like.

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Speaker 3: I was with Lebron in twenty oh three, Bryce Harper

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Speaker 2: I want to know who is he? Because you have

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Speaker 2: there are varying reports was you know? There are allegations

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Speaker 2: that he was the third or fourth best player out

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Speaker 2: of his high school team, but that he did score

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Speaker 2: fifteen points in the McDonald's All Star Game. Lebron or

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Speaker 2: Bronni was second team All league in his high school league,

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Speaker 2: but he was regarded as a top thirty recruit. I

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Speaker 2: guess is he projectable? You can talk about the combine

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Speaker 2: and his numbers. I know Nick Wright was glowing about

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Speaker 2: Bronnie's combine numbers. Please don't tell me about combine numbers,

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Speaker 2: otherwise I'll have to insert Mike Mamula's name.

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles. The good people in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: I know you remember who Mike Mamula was and if

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Speaker 2: you don't google him, he had combine numbers through the chart.

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Speaker 2: He should have been Reggie White and Lawrence Taylor times

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Speaker 2: four based on the combine numbers, but not so much so.

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Speaker 3: The real question is what is this going to look

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Speaker 3: like a year down the road.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to invoke Bronnie James and his numbers today.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't really matter to me because Dalton Connect didn't

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Speaker 2: necessarily have good numbers either. But as I observe Bronnie

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Speaker 2: look for, and oh, biay, if you look at his

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Speaker 2: Let's say it was Eddie Gazinski and he happened to

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Speaker 2: be on the floor and you asked, what did he

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Speaker 3: Well? Fairly uneventful, underwhelming, kind of a quiet performance, quite honestly.

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Speaker 2: And this is against fringe NBA players looking to get

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Speaker 2: a job. If you're a scout, the first thing you

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Speaker 2: do is survey a players body type. You know what

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Speaker 2: to recognize the positives and negatives of what is going

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Speaker 2: to translate to the NBA. That's what I did with

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Speaker 2: lebron Senior back in two thousand and three. He very

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Speaker 2: much looked projectable at a couple of positions. First of all,

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Speaker 2: what position do we project Bronnie at in the NBA?

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Speaker 2: He clearly does not look quick enough as a point guard.

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Speaker 2: To me, He's got okay handles, he's got terrific courts sense,

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Speaker 2: he's a good passer. Every time he got the ball

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Speaker 3: But I don't think.

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Speaker 2: He's prolific enough at this stage of development to become

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Speaker 2: come through there that just look like men against boys.

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Speaker 2: Brownie was nowhere near that. And you're telling me if

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Speaker 2: you think he can evolve into that in the next year. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's wait and see. But you want to be able

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Speaker 2: to see a player and get a good idea of

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Speaker 2: his measurables. That's a key skill for evaluating talent.

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Speaker 3: Okay, his positional size, you tell me, well, first of all,

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Speaker 3: what is he's He's sixty four six one sixty two,

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Speaker 3: his length, his hands, his overall body type.

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Speaker 2: What position do you project him at? Because I sure

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Speaker 2: as hell don't know what translatable skills for his position.

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Speaker 2: Did you see today that would relate and you know,

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Speaker 2: be able to observe him on an NBA floor a

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Speaker 2: year from now, helping an NBA team actually win games,

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Speaker 2: win meaningful games.

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Speaker 3: What positionuill he play? What's his versatility? Versatility is extremely

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Speaker 3: important in today's NBA. Can lebron check that Bronni defend

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Speaker 3: multiple positions because a lot of times in the NBA,

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Speaker 3: a player's position is usually determined by who he can defend.

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Speaker 3: So you saw the numbers, We don't need to belabor that.

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Speaker 2: He gets to play against Sunday against Golden State, and

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Speaker 2: he'll make his Las Vegas debut here next Friday. I

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Speaker 2: think he's a heady player. He's been well schooled, he's

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Speaker 2: been well coached. I don't see an NBA player. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if I'll ever see an NBA player. He's

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Speaker 2: going to get to play in the NBA, but he's

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Speaker 2: not going to come upon the scene like his dad did,

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Speaker 2: certainly or certainly like Bryce Harper did. And my concern

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Speaker 2: is when I saw Anthony Bennett get on the floor

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Speaker 2: against NBA players, fringe NBA players in twenty twelve and

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Speaker 2: look highly pedestrian, nothing special, blend it in, you never

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Speaker 2: know he was a high draft choice. I saw the

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Speaker 2: same thing with Bronnie today. He just his name is

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Speaker 2: Bronnie James, and that's why you look at him, and

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Speaker 2: that's why you watch him. And he seems like a

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Speaker 2: Don't tell me about the labor pains, show me the baby.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: There's an unwritten rule that if you're born and you

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Speaker 3: Self proclaimed iconic player.

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Speaker 2: I'm not notwithstanding the fact that you are an all

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Speaker 2: I saw Jordan courtside, I saw Bird court side, I

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Speaker 2: Naturally we're talking Bronni James. Why wouldn't we be? And

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Speaker 2: before I turn it over to Shay, you heard my

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Speaker 2: The first prop, would he scored ten points? Is even money?

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Speaker 2: He would have lost that? Would he make two three

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Speaker 2: and thirty five. Obviously that didn't happen. Would he record

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Speaker 3: Would he record for rebounds? You'd have gone er for.

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Speaker 2: I digress, Shait. We've talked a lot of basketball. I

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Speaker 7: The highlights that I did see if Ronnie obviously were

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Speaker 6: In the twenty two minutes exactly that's my want.

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Speaker 2: To So you might want to do, because we're going

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Speaker 3: Here's a kid who's six foot two.

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Speaker 6: That's the thing. I didn't see him like.

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Speaker 7: The biggest thing with this game is it didn't add

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Speaker 3: All that thought.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't matter to me. I can.

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Speaker 7: The one thing I really love about his game. He

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Speaker 7: what I want. But the thing that I liked about

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Speaker 6: It was just being new to the game, like being a.

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Speaker 3: Real good, respectful kid. I don't think I'm a huge

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Speaker 2: Exactly, always run in their mouth. That's not that's not

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Speaker 6: And it correlated to the court. You could see it

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Speaker 7: of people were tough on him, got usc bringing up

436
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Speaker 7: his numbers and all that. I mean, he just came

437
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Speaker 7: from a cardiac, like literally just had a cardiac orres.

438
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Speaker 2: He wasn't good to have big numbers in high school though,

439
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,360
Speaker 2: either that was well before his cardiac.

440
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Speaker 6: At Sierra knyon he didn't.

441
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Speaker 3: Have big numbers.

442
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, well Sierrah Canyon second, Yeah, I understand that, but

443
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 7: Sierah Canyon also had the number one prospect and number

444
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 7: three prospect and the number four projects.

445
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Speaker 3: And none of those guys were drafted by the Lakers.

446
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 6: You are right about that, but.

447
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 2: I will give Ronnie credit. He did score fifteen points

448
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 2: in the McDonald's game. So that's my point. Who are

449
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 2: we seeing? And I'll shay you know about the NBA.

450
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 2: Do you remember a kid that was drafted by the

451
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: Memphis Grizzlies about ten twelve years ago, Josh Selby. He

452
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 2: was named co MVP of the Summer League. He it

453
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 2: was like twenty five points a game. He only played

454
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: a total of thirty five games in his entire NBA career,

455
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 2: So the summer League is not a predictor of how

456
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 2: you're going to do in the future. But I don't

457
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 2: know anybody who didn't come into the Summer League and

458
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: do well or not do well, and all of a

459
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 2: sudden wake up and become this tremendous NBA player. So

460
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 2: you know, we have to give this a full year.

461
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 2: But I have to see something that's projectable. I have

462
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 2: to see something I can really hang my hat on,

463
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 2: and I'm struggling to find that right now.

464
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Speaker 6: No, I completely agree.

465
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Speaker 7: Okay, So I'm the only reason I'm optimistic, to be honest,

466
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 7: just because I want it to work.

467
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Speaker 6: I genuinely want it to work.

468
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Speaker 7: Sure, just because I mean, in the end, today we

469
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 7: found out that the Lakers are going to be the

470
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 7: only team in the entire NBA to not make any moves.

471
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 7: It's kind of something we're not doubly downing on it,

472
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 7: but it's like almost like this is this is what

473
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 7: it's at, and this is what we have to deal

474
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 7: with as a Laker fan. So it's it's where I'm

475
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 7: coming from is from the perspective of please work, like

476
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 7: I really want this to work. But when when when

477
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Speaker 7: someone from an outside perspective, which is you, which is

478
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 7: kind of bringing me back to my grounded position of

479
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,479
Speaker 7: what like necessarily why and and why did we do this?

480
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 7: And this was the game where I hoped to see

481
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 7: where which is what you're saying, we need to see

482
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 7: something like why he could be an NBA player, why

483
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 7: he could play. This was the game where I would

484
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 7: have hoped to see something, but it necessarily I didn't

485
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 7: see it. But at the same time, it didn't take

486
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 7: away from the fact that he isn't necessarily not going

487
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 7: to be an NBA player, Like I could definitely see

488
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 7: some moments of him being able to be maybe even

489
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 7: a six man who knows a good a good piece

490
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Speaker 7: off the bench, and who knows a year's time, I

491
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 7: don't know how much he can grow. But I definitely

492
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 7: didn't see, oh, this is the next coming of Lebron

493
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 7: in the nitpick highlights that I did see.

494
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Speaker 2: Fair enough try to you know, he'll play I think

495
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: two more games in California and then he's guaranteed at

496
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 2: least four games here in Las Vegas, depending against the

497
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 2: Lakers advance to the playoff round here, so you're gonna

498
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: get see him four and he's gonna get a lot

499
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: of minutes. They have to Okay, they have to take

500
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,719
Speaker 2: this investment and try to get some return.

501
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Speaker 3: So let's keep an open mind.

502
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 2: I don't blame you for wanting to be optimistic, and listen,

503
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: if you really want to be optimistic the later the

504
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: Lakers won forty seven games last year with the same roster,

505
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 2: they're gonna run it back. They ran into Denver, the

506
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 2: one team they can't beat, But what's to say they

507
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: might not have beaten another team and gotten to, you know,

508
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 2: later in the playoffs, which is about the most optimistic

509
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 2: I think the big thing and this is off subject

510
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: real quickly, che you better hope that Lebron can play

511
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: seventy six games next year, in Anthony Davis can play

512
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: seventy three, because that was an excellent effort by both

513
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: of them last year to be on the floor for

514
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 2: that amount of games, and you're gonna need both of

515
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: those guys for a lot of games next year. I mean,

516
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: we'll talk about this with Mark Mendine at the top

517
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 2: of the hour, but man, I'm telling you this Western

518
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: Conference is really really getting crowded.

519
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 3: Right, good stuff, Shay, we'll catch up later in the show.

520
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 3: Coming up.

521
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Speaker 2: You keep hearing this term the NBA's second apron. What's

522
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 2: that like if you eat too many hot dogs? No,

523
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: I will tell you how the second apron, how it

524
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: affects the latest collective bargaining agreement, how it impacts the

525
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: salary cap, and how it will affect teams spending for

526
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: teams that go over this salary cap. And I'll bring

527
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 2: this up with Mark. The Lakers blanked. I'll always be curious.

528
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 2: DeMar de Rozan got a three year deal seventy four million.

529
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 2: It's about twenty five million a year. But if Lebron

530
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Speaker 2: would have taken the pay cut he said he was

531
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: gonna take, and instead of making fifty two million, said

532
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, I'll do it for twenty seven million.

533
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 2: Let's bring in DeMar DeRozan might have DeMar DeRozan wanted

534
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: to be a Laker. Maybe he didn't want to be

535
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: a Laker in the first place, so it would have

536
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 2: been moot. But I always thought Lebron's offered to take

537
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: a pay cut was moot as well.

538
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 3: Did it happen. Well, it didn't, all right.

539
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: One of the biggest changes in the NBA's new Collective

540
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: Bargaining Agreement is the introduction of this thing called the

541
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: second Apron. You keep hearing about it, but not sure

542
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 2: if anybody is taking the time to explain it, which

543
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: is exactly what I am going to do right now. See,

544
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: the second Apron was designed to make the penalties much

545
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: more punishing for teams that spend way above the luxury tax.

546
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,719
Speaker 2: What they want to do, what the NBA wants to do, theoretically,

547
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 2: is shrink the gap between all the big spending teams

548
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 2: and the small market teams when it comes to building

549
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: your roster. So let's start at the beginning. How much

550
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 2: is the salary cap, the luxury tax, the first apron

551
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 2: and the second apron in twenty three to twenty four

552
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: This season, we just ended the salary caps one hundred

553
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: and thirty six man. The luxury tax is one hundred

554
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 2: and sixty five man. These are the thresholds. The first

555
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 2: apron starts at one hundred and seventy million, and the

556
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: second apron, the new thing, starts at one hundred and

557
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: eighty two point five million.

558
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 3: Now, what's the salary cap.

559
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 2: All right, I know this is like Eddie Murphy in

560
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: trading places like a bacon, lettuce and tomato sandwich. He

561
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 2: stares at the camera like, what's wrong with you?

562
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 3: Man?

563
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: But let's let's set this. Let's set this up properly.

564
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: The salary cap is the amount of money that every

565
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 2: team has available to spend as they construct the roster.

566
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: Teams below the one hundred and thirty six million dollars

567
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: threshold will they create the cap room that they can

568
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: spend on incoming free agents. But teams to go over

569
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: the salary cap by using cap as exceptions. Remember they

570
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: created the Larry Bird rule many many years ago. Right,

571
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: So how can you go over your salary cap? Well,

572
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: let's say you've got a player on your roster that

573
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: if you he's already been on your roster, you don't

574
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: want to lose him.

575
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: But you know you can't go over the salary cap.

576
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: Well, you can by using a cap except if the

577
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: player has already been on the roster. That gives you

578
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 2: a luxury tax limit of up to one hundred and

579
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: sixty five million. I think it's pretty generous. So you

580
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: want to take care of your hometown guys. So it

581
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: doesn't go elsewhere, but you go over the salary cap.

582
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: But you want to try to stay under the luxury

583
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: tax line of one hundred and sixty five million. That's

584
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: not always possible. So penalties begin at that luxury tax line.

585
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: They're basically fines, financial fines, and the NBA takes that

586
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: money and they distributed to the non tax paying teams.

587
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: At the end of the year.

588
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: However, teams still go further into the tax and they

589
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: approach the apron. This is where roster building penalties are

590
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: added in. So you've now got the first apron at

591
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy two million, you've gone over the

592
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: salary cap at one thirty six, you've signed your hometown talent.

593
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: You've gone over one sixty five. Matter of fact, you splurged.

594
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: You went over the first apron of one hund than

595
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: seventy two million. What are the penalties? Very simple, when

596
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: you hit that first apron at bucks seventy two. At

597
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: this point there are restrictions. Teams cannot acquire a player

598
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: and a sign a trade if that player keeps them

599
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: above the apron. Teams also cannot sign a player that's

600
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: been waived during the regular season if their salary was

601
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: over the twelve million dollar mid level exception. Also, matching

602
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: a salary in trades must be within one hundred and

603
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: ten percent rather than the one hundred and twenty five

604
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: percent for teams that are not above the apron.

605
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 3: So those are penalties now you get into the second apron.

606
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: To get into the second apron, you have to clear

607
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty two point five million in your

608
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 3: roster salary cumulatively, and some teams do it.

609
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: Now an additional penalty is added when you cross the

610
00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: second apron. There is no access to the million dollar

611
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: taxpayer mid level exception. So starting at the end of

612
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: this last season, they're The NBA is now adding even

613
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: more restrictions to the second apron, which will take place

614
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: starting next season. Teams cannot use a trade exception generated

615
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: by aggregating the salaries of multiple players, which was a

616
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: common practice before. Teams cannot include cash in a trade.

617
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: This is if you go over the second apron. Starting

618
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: next year, teams and also they cannot use a trade

619
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: exception generated in a prior year. And you ever see

620
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: those trades where you'll see this, some team will get

621
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: a haul they'll get a bunch of players or checked out.

622
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: They get a bunch of draft choice, and you say, wow,

623
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: they traded their first round draft choice in twenty thirty two.

624
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: My god, that's well. That happens. They'll package first round

625
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: draft choices. But if you are over the apron, a

626
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: first round pick that is seven years out is not frozen.

627
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 3: You are not allowed to trade that right.

628
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: And by the way, a team's first round pick is

629
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: moved to the end of the first round if you

630
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: remain in the second apron for three out of five seasons.

631
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: So these penalties are quite a bit more strict than

632
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: under the old CBA. What this is trying to do

633
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: is limit owners with deep pockets who could go well

634
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: into the luxury tax as long as they were willing

635
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: to pay. Now, teams who enter the second apron are

636
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: going to be hamstrung quite a bit more difficulty adding

637
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 2: any sort of new, viable star type talent.

638
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: Via trades or free agent acquisitions.

639
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: So from now on, when you hear the term second apron,

640
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: which is why you're hearing teams also trying to avoid it,

641
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: now you'll know why, and you'll also know what happens

642
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: if they in fact, don't avoid the second apron.

643
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,719
Speaker 3: Yep, there you have it.

644
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: You know, I gotta do this because speaking of money,

645
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: speaking of honey flowing in sports, people lack like this

646
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: is a new thing. Everybody makes a big deal out

647
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: of Bobby Benia Day, which was it's actually July first

648
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: every year, and I know why because the Mets will

649
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: loathe the fact that Bobby Bania will receive one point

650
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: two million in annual payment from the Mets all the

651
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: way until twenty thirty five. And it's laughable because this

652
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Speaker 2: this commenced in two thousand, so for thirty five straight years.

653
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Speaker 2: But guess what, Bobby Benea ain't the only guy that's

654
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Speaker 2: getting paid, So he's got his own day. But I'll

655
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Speaker 2: share with you some other players on the list. You

656
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Speaker 2: might get a kick out of it. I'm Bernie Fradder.

657
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Speaker 2: We all come in your life from the Las Vegas

658
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio tyrec dot com studios.

659
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Speaker 3: Keep it locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie

660
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Speaker 3: Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

661
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Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

662
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Speaker 2: All right back at the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio.

663
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Speaker 2: Come to your live from me tyrack dot com. Studios

664
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Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas for a dive into Bobby Venia.

665
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Speaker 2: She had an additional thought about Brownie Shane.

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Yeah, I.

667
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Speaker 7: Just wanted to add on to the fact that why

668
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Speaker 7: I felt comfortable with him being on the being on

669
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Speaker 7: the floor, and why I thought he was comfortable being

670
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Speaker 7: on the floor because when there were those those quick

671
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Speaker 7: moments of just him having that fast break offer ends

672
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 7: he never second guessed himself when he was passing the ball.

673
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 7: He was very certain about everything he was doing, you

674
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 7: know what I mean, even though it didn't go in,

675
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 7: even though it didn't hit, he would do it one

676
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 7: hundred percent and he would never second guess. And there

677
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 7: were moments where it would go in or an assists,

678
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Speaker 7: like during that fast break where he had the steal,

679
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 7: where he would give that amazing bounced pass. Like it's

680
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 7: moments like that where I'm like, Okay, this is making

681
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Speaker 7: me feel a little bit better. But at the same time,

682
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Speaker 7: we don't know if it will correlate to the NBA

683
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 7: and this is just summer League, so who knows what

684
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Speaker 7: we'll see with Bronnie.

685
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Speaker 6: But I'm just that's why I'm optimistic about him.

686
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: Well, so your observations are right.

687
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: He just played court sense and he was decisive with

688
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: the basketball times. We will see how that may or

689
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: may not translate when you get into a real NBA

690
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 2: game where the athleticism is five times different than in

691
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: the summer game, which is about twenty percent of an

692
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: NBA game, and you're competing against guys that are maybe

693
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Speaker 2: fringe players at best.

694
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Speaker 3: But you know, let's let it again. We're gonna let

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Speaker 3: this play out.

696
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Speaker 2: I am withholding full judgment for one year, but I

697
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: still will have opinions along the way. Okay, this past week,

698
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 2: Bobby Benia Day took place, and you look, salary deferment

699
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: is nothing new, and it's not going away. Did you

700
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Speaker 2: already forget shoheo tani?

701
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 3: He's goett He.

702
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Speaker 2: Got a six hundred and eighty million dollars deal and

703
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: it's basically almost all in deferrals, I mean Dodgers. He's

704
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: agreed to set aside sixty eight million dollars of a

705
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: seventy million dollars annual salary for ten years and maybe

706
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: you know, deferred that month later. But so Benia did

707
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: this back in two thousand. He structured this contract on

708
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: every July first, Bobby Minie is the recipient of one

709
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Speaker 2: point one to nine million dollars from the Mets. That

710
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: was the deferral structure they created back in two thousand

711
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: and he's got another what eleven years to go. But

712
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: he's not the only one they calls Bobby Benia David.

713
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: There are other guys. Did you know that Ken Griffy Junior.

714
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 2: He had a sixteen year deferral of fifty seven million

715
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: dollars from the Cincinnati Reds of all teams, and it

716
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: concludes finally this next year where he'll get a lump sum,

717
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: a three point six million dollar payment. Remember Manny Ramirez

718
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: man ram Manny Wood Manny also receives two million dollars

719
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: per year from the Red Sox as part of a

720
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Speaker 2: sixteen year, thirty two million dollar deferral that started back

721
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Speaker 2: in twenty ten and it will then until twenty twenty six.

722
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: And the Baltimore Oriols once had a semi power hitting

723
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Speaker 2: first baseman by the name of Chris Davis. He's getting

724
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Speaker 2: nine million dollars a year as part of deferrals because

725
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: he had a one hundred and sixty one million dollar

726
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Speaker 2: contract and he's got another forty million dollars due between

727
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: now and thirteen years from now, so you're not alone

728
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Speaker 2: Bobby Bania. By the way, Bobby Vania is now sixty

729
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: one years old, and not only the Mets paying him.

730
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Speaker 2: Remember Bobby Bania spent a minute with the Baltimore Orioles.

731
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Speaker 2: He got deferrals of five hundred thousand a year from

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty or check that from twenty oh four to

733
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight. So Bobby Bania, there's two Bobby Benia days,

734
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Speaker 2: one with the Oriols, one with the Mets, and he's

735
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Speaker 2: got four more years left with the Orioles and eleven

736
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Speaker 2: more years with the Mets. The way to double dip

737
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Speaker 2: Bobby now. Finally, Brett Saberhagen, not to be left in

738
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Speaker 2: the cold, also also benefiting from the Mets, made his

739
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 2: own deal starting in twenty oh four that Brett Saberhagen

740
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: will receive, has continued to receive and will receive through

741
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars annually.

742
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: And that is all part of sort of like this

743
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: family of Bobby Bania Day recipients. So it's not just Bania,

744
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 2: Brett Saberhagen Chris Davis, Manny Davis or many Ramirez, Ken

745
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 2: Griffy Jr. Right on down the line. And by the way,

746
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: what's really funny is they're making Ellie D. Lacruz, one

747
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: of the best players in baseball, makes seven hundred grand

748
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: this year. Bobby Vanie is making more than him. He's

749
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Speaker 2: making more than Gunner hendersoning an anti volpe as well.

750
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Speaker 3: So there you have it. We'll set this aside until

751
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 3: next July first, when Bobby Medea Day rears its head

752
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: again and everybody will get all excited to celebrate Bobby Day,

753
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: and I'll get all excited to say, well, he's not

754
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: the only one coming up Medina Magic. We talk NBA.

755
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 2: Keep it locks The Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

756
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: Well that's right, you heard the man. The Bernie Frattle

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Speaker 2: Show keeps Roland right along. My name is Bernie Fraddle.

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Speaker 2: I have coming to you live from the tyrack dot

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Speaker 2: com studios here in Las Vegas, Nevada, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: should be Well, it's that time of week. You know

764
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Speaker 2: what you love you Kenley without we have reached midnight

765
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 2: on the Bernie Frattle Show twelve minute Pacific and that

766
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Speaker 2: means only one thing.

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Speaker 3: It's that time.

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Speaker 2: Medina Medina Magic are Fox Sports Radio, NBA Googu. You

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Speaker 2: hear him all around the dial. Mark a very eventful week.

770
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: Lots of free agency signings. Of course, the summer League

771
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: has begun, as it were, not the Las Vegas Summer League,

772
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: but a summer league. And let's also not forget that

773
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 2: Team USA is training here in Las Vegas. You had

774
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: a chance to spend some time with there them today.

775
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: What are your takeaways?

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Speaker 8: Well, burn in good shout with you is always this

777
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 8: is a coveyat That's not like we got to see practice.

778
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 8: They open when the time they open up, we only

779
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 8: see them, you know, shoot free throws and you know

780
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 8: see them mice or knee pads. You know, it's not

781
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 8: a lot, But I will I will say that Steve Cursa,

782
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 8: that Kawhi Leonard, he did everything in practice that included

783
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 8: some controlled scrimmaging. So I think that's a good sign

784
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 8: because he had all that bright knee inflammation at the

785
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 8: end of the Clippers regular season as well as that

786
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 8: playoff series against Dallas. Now, I think what's interesting with

787
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 8: Kawhi Leonard is that Lawrence frank At some of the

788
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 8: Clippers brass are there, and so I'm curious, is there's

789
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 8: going to be some delicate, you know, supervising where we

790
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 8: see Kawhi Leonard getting some load management treatment on TV

791
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 8: USA and like this this has all sorts of funny tentacles.

792
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 8: Because Steve Kerr is the coach, he should be able

793
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 8: to allocate minutes. But I do wonder if there's going

794
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 8: to be some feedback from the Copper organization on you know,

795
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 8: how many minutes he's allowed to play and all that.

796
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fair assertion, mark because he was basically

797
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: a non factor in the playoffs and he missed the

798
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: last two weeks of.

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Speaker 3: The season as it were. So how does the Clippers

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00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 3: feel about that that he's all fresh as the days

801
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 3: you ready to go for the Olympics, but he couldn't

802
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 3: quite answer the bill when it mattered for the Clippers.

803
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I think the Clippers and Kawhi Leonard when

804
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 8: he speaks sometime this week he'll say, Look, it just

805
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 8: has to do with help. When he's available, he'll play.

806
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 8: When he's not, he won't play. I think that this

807
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 8: can be a win win, you know. The historically a

808
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 8: lot of players always talk about how there's a benefit

809
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 8: of LAM for TVSA, either in the FOBA Games or

810
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 8: in the Olympic Games, and how there's a carryover into

811
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 8: the next season just as far as your conditioning and

812
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 8: your sharpness, and so that could happen to Kawhi. But

813
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 8: you know, I am kind of making light of the situation,

814
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 8: but I think the Clippers are right to be wanting to,

815
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 8: you know, peer over their peer over Steve's shoulder and

816
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 8: make sure that he doesn't get hurt again. But I

817
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 8: think that they are going to collaborate. Steve Curry is

818
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 8: good at doing that, so it's about doing what he

819
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 8: needs to do to win the game, but also make

820
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 8: sure he's on harm's way. The good thing is, as

821
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Speaker 8: Steve Kerr said, he has twelve Hall of Famers on

822
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 8: the roster, so it's not going to be that difficult

823
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 8: in making adjustments if Kawhi has to be playing on

824
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 8: a limited basis, but at least for first day of practice,

825
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 8: he didn't have any restrictions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just looking. It's the optics.

827
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: It's like the guy who goes and stick to work,

828
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: but he's at the company picnic that night crushing. So

829
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 2: by the way, I was able to get out of

830
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: mind Lebron to English Dictionary and I know there's this

831
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 2: rumor that he may come off the bench, and of

832
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 2: course Lebron said something to the media about, well, I'll

833
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 2: do whatever coach needs me to do translations than coming

834
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Speaker 2: off the bench on Lebron. Do you see any scenario

835
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Speaker 2: where Lebron does come off the bench.

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Speaker 8: Or no, he's not coming off the bench. He started,

837
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Speaker 8: thank Steve Kerr. Steve Kerr that generally that no decisions

838
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 8: have been made with anything. He's going to be playing

839
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 8: different starting lineups first exped fishing games. Sorry, not different combinations.

840
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 8: But here's my educated guest, Uh, you can lock in Lebron, James,

841
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 8: Kevin Durant and Steph Curry as starters. So now it's

842
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 8: about Steve Kerr finding the last two starters and also

843
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 8: figuring out the rest of the rotation.

844
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Speaker 2: Talking with Mark Mandina Medina Magic. You hear him every

845
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Speaker 2: Saturday night here with me at twelve minnight on the

846
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Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show. I, by the way, they're gonna pay

847
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: an exhibition gaming.

848
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Speaker 3: It's Canada. Canada's got a nice roster. I do believe

849
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 3: obviously that.

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Speaker 2: I would be surprised Mark if the USA team doesn't

851
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: prevail and win the gold.

852
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 3: But I also.

853
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: Maybe I gotta tell you, I am may be the minority,

854
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: but I want to get your thoughts. I think it's

855
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: going to be a rock fight to win the whole thing.

856
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be you know, I

857
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: mean Germany, Serbia, France, Canada, Australia.

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Speaker 3: They've all got guys.

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00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: That can play, and so, you know, in the international

860
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 2: game always has a way of sort of you know,

861
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: narrowing the field. How shocked on a scale of one

862
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: to ten would you be if the team didn't win

863
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: the gold medal?

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Speaker 8: Well, I want to be shocked, but it would be

865
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Speaker 8: a failure and a disappointment the US don't win the gold.

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Speaker 8: And I think that basically, ever since the redeem team

867
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 8: in O eight, the US fully understands that the international

868
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 8: you know, the battles global. It's not going to be

869
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 8: like ninety two Dream Team anymore. Where Charles barkleas you know,

870
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 8: openly says he doesn't know anyone on the end goal.

871
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 8: But they're in trouble. They can't do that anymore, you know.

872
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 8: Steve Kerr also even said today a practice like this

873
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 8: is not going to be how it was in ninety

874
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 8: two when Chuck Daeway and Michael Jordan was just golfing

875
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 8: like on game days, like they're they're having to do

876
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 8: a lot of work. But with all those caveats aside,

877
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 8: I fully expect the US to win because they have

878
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 8: their best guys and everyone is fully available. Now there

879
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 8: are going to be to your point, I think some

880
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 8: initial challenges about, you know, adapting to feed the rules,

881
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 8: and also just the fact that the US team never

882
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 8: has continuity because all the other national teams it's the

883
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 8: same core guys and they're familiar. You know, there might

884
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 8: be some familiarity with the NBA with one or two teammates,

885
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 8: but it's usually you know, they're playing, they're teaming up

886
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 8: against previous opponents. So I think in that case, especially

887
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 8: very early on, Steve Kerr suggested that he is going

888
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 8: to lean on Lebron James and Kevin Durant a lot

889
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 8: because they are his most experienced team USA players.

890
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: I feel like Canada might possess or might pose the

891
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: biggest challenge based on how they looked in the Fever

892
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: World Cup. They got seven or eight NBA play They're

893
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 2: gonna have the NBA guys coming off the bench. I

894
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: mean it's not just Shay Gilgess, Alexander and Jamal Marry

895
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: and Jamal Murray excuse me, and you know Lou Dort

896
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: and Archie Barrett.

897
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 3: They got guys. Man. I think it's gonna be a

898
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 3: good game.

899
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean the only the only thing that is

900
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 8: going against them is they don't have Andrew Wiggins. That

901
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 8: was some weird stuff going on where there was the

902
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 8: miscommunication that the Warriors felt they had with Andrew Wiggins

903
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 8: in his health and they brought up some concerns about

904
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 8: you know, him playing. So that's a huge absence. But

905
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 8: to your point, Jagoes Alexander, I think is the menage

906
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 8: himself is you know, one of the MVP cans of

907
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 8: the league right now. And Lou Dort he is amazing defender.

908
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 8: I mean he is so physical. Yes, he fights for screens. Well,

909
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 8: I talked with him earlier this season.

910
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 3: No joke.

911
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 8: After every game he whips out his iPad and like

912
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 8: jots down quick notes about some of the players he

913
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 8: defended that night as a study guide, and then he'll

914
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 8: reread through his iPad notes, you know, when he gets home.

915
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 8: So there's a lot of good things that Canada has

916
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 8: to offer. But again, when he compared to the US,

917
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 8: you know, it's a different conversation when it's the fat

918
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 8: games because it's usually like the second tier of stars,

919
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 8: and you know they don't have the continuity. But here

920
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 8: it's everyone's best shot with the US, and I think

921
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 8: even with the game being global, you know there's still

922
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 8: a separation between a team that has Lebron Stephan Durant

923
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 8: versus everyone else.

924
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you brought up a defensive intensity because

925
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 2: lou Dort not only fit, said Bill.

926
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 3: SODA's Dylan Brooks a SODA's RJ. Barrett.

927
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: So does SGA and they're all two way players, so

928
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: it could be fun, it could be I would not

929
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 2: rolled out. I think if those two teams played ten times,

930
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 2: USA wins seven or eight, maybe nine, But they only

931
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: need to beat him once probably, So we'll see what happens,

932
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: all right. Free agency is starting to wind down. A

933
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 2: couple of interesting signings in the last twenty four hours.

934
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams goes to the Sixers. Here's why that surprised me.

935
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 2: I believe he turned down sixty five million from the

936
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 2: Heat and got pretty too many from the Sixers.

937
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 3: What was your thinking there.

938
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 8: Well, I think what happens there is that once you

939
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 8: have a pretty good team, you can get guys to

940
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 8: take pay cuts because the idea is okay, like what

941
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 8: try to win championships. So that's really good, and the

942
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 8: Sixers really need that because they put all their you know,

943
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 8: eggs into getting the third star and with the labor

944
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 8: deal with the second apron. Like, I think the Sixers

945
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 8: might be the last team that has that big three,

946
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 8: so that that falls under the convention that when you

947
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 8: have that uh you know, kind of core in place

948
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 8: where you have some predominant star players, you can get

949
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 8: guys on discounts and then when you're you're a team

950
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 8: that's you know, trying to be on the up and

951
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 8: up here, you're often overspending for average players.

952
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 3: That's very true.

953
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: I talk with Mark Medina, Medina managing it gonna be

954
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 2: Saturday night midnight twelve minute Pacific time here on the

955
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show. All right, let's talk tomorrow. DeRozan, he

956
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: was like the last of the Mohicans that might come

957
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: to the Lakers.

958
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 3: Right.

959
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 2: He gets a seventy four million dollar deal now a

960
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: week ago, and I knew this wasn't going to happen.

961
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: These are the kind of things that make my teethache.

962
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: Where Lebron talked about maybe taking a pay cut. So listen,

963
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: the world is evictately enough played with all hypotheticals or

964
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: straw man arguments. But I'm going to break my own rule.

965
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: So Lebron got a two year deal fifty two million

966
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: a year. If he would have said, hey, i'll take

967
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: twenty seven million a year and we'll give the three

968
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 2: year deal to Demorrow de Rozan, would DeRozan have come

969
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 2: to the Lakers or might he just said no, I

970
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: don't want to be there. I think we got a

971
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 2: better chance in Sacramento.

972
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 3: Where was Damar DeRozan's head.

973
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 8: Yeah, here's the thing that's so complicated because there's three

974
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 8: different levers and some of them are I mean, they're

975
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 8: all related, but some you know, they don't have control

976
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 8: over you know, the Lakers would have to do with

977
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 8: sign and trade. And you know we've talked talked about

978
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 8: this before. They just outside of Lebron and Ad, they

979
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 8: have players that other teams don't want, or if they

980
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 8: do want, like saying Austin Reeves or ruy Atchamora, they're

981
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 8: trying to sell the farm on them. And so I

982
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 8: think that's that's issue number one. Issue number two. I

983
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 8: actually believe Lebron would have taken a pay cut if

984
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 8: it was you know, actually realistic. I just don't think

985
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 8: that that ever arrived at the doorstep. You know, he

986
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 8: took a pay cut in twenty ten when he went

987
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 8: to the Heat. That's the only time ever in his

988
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 8: career he took a pay cut, but it was because

989
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 8: you know, it would help them build a better roster

990
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 8: for that championship team. The third thing, I think that

991
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 8: I'm a DeMar Derosen fan. I think he plays the

992
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 8: right way. You know, even in today's NBA mid range

993
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 8: is still a value, great locker room guy. But there's

994
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 8: no way around it. I think if you add Damar

995
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 8: to the Lakers, it's just a clunky fit because of

996
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 8: Lebron and AD. And I think that they had feared,

997
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 8: even though it's apples to oranges because Russell Westbrook has

998
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 8: different attributes. I think it was philosophically the same concern

999
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 8: of adding another ball dominant player when they've seen how

1000
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 8: ineffective that is with Lebron and Ad as well as

1001
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 8: you know how ineffective it is when they don't have

1002
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 8: a supporting cast. So I think those things as well

1003
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 8: as the fact that, look, the Kings are in a

1004
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 8: better position. You know, Deered Fox and Demonte Sembonas are

1005
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 8: really good players. They have a young core, and they

1006
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 8: had more assets, better assets the trade of Chicago. So

1007
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 8: hence Damar is with Sacramento. But it's ironic because there's

1008
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 8: been so many opportunities. DeMar had a chance to come

1009
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 8: back into his hometown and play for the Lakers twenty sixteen,

1010
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 8: twenty twenty one, twenty twenty four, and it never happened.

1011
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 3: It never happens. Finally, well too, says real quickly.

1012
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 2: I really tip a cap to Klay Thompson and the

1013
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks.

1014
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 3: I heard their presentation him with Christine.

1015
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: I think it's just a match made in heaven in

1016
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: terms of obviously Dallas showing that they needed that third shooter, right,

1017
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 2: Josh Green couldn't get it done. Tim Hardaway couldn't get

1018
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: it done. I got a feeling they're going to get

1019
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 2: some They're gonna get a good Klay Thompson next year.

1020
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 8: Your thoughts, Yeah, I think he very well could be improved.

1021
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 3: Now.

1022
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna say he's going to be the Klay

1023
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 8: Thompson for twenty nineteen injury, but he's needed either. Yeah,

1024
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 8: but I do share. Even though Michael Thompson has dad,

1025
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 8: he's always optimistic about everything. I don't think he's ever

1026
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 8: produced for the Lakers to lose. Ever, I do. I

1027
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 8: do think he's within reason where he thinks this is

1028
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 8: going to be Quay's bounced back here because Luca and Kyrie,

1029
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 8: Luca Toscains or Kyrie, We're gon get a lot of

1030
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 8: defensive attention. Quay's great and catch and shoot when I

1031
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 8: pressed them on, you know, concerns about his defense. I

1032
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 8: think Michael made a good point about, Okay, he can't

1033
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 8: defend top point guards anymore, but he can guard wings

1034
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 8: fairly decently. But I think he can do that. And

1035
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 8: I think it also helps that, you know, because it's

1036
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 8: a new environment and he has a chip on his

1037
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 8: shoulder and Dallas is frankly a better team right now

1038
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 8: than Golden State.

1039
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 3: Sure.

1040
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, this this brings out a pretty good recipe that

1041
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 8: play as a legitimate shot to win an NBA title

1042
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 8: next season.

1043
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 2: Very much so. I like the I like to deal

1044
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: for multiple reasons. And finally they finish it up on

1045
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 2: the Lakers. Look, they won forty seven games last year,

1046
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 2: they're going to run it back. You could make a

1047
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: case that perhaps that if he hadn't run into Denver

1048
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: in the first round, they might have had a deeper

1049
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 2: playoff run. It's just a bad matchup for them. The

1050
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: question is, though, can Lebron play seventy six games and

1051
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis played seventy three games next year, because without

1052
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 2: both of them on the floor, their chance to sink

1053
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 2: like a rock.

1054
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, well, I think it does help that we

1055
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 8: should expect that Kate Vincent Jared Vanderbilt will be healthier

1056
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 8: next season, But we can't assume the same thing with

1057
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 8: Lebron James and Anthony Davis. Lebron's going to turn forty

1058
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 8: in December at some time. The wheels fall Anthony Davis

1059
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 8: Incidentally enough, I am more optimistic that he can be,

1060
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 8: you know, in better health, because a lot of his

1061
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 8: availability last season had to do with just fixing his

1062
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 8: workout regimen. So I think that he'll repeat that. But

1063
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 8: with Lebron, when he turned forty and you're playing this

1064
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 8: much basketball, all bets are off. I think it was

1065
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 8: very talent in his press conference today that he decided to,

1066
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 8: you know, be company guy instead of sending coded messages

1067
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 8: about his discuss with the front office. You know, he

1068
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 8: had three opportunities to talk about the fact that the

1069
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 8: Lakers stood pat and didn't make any move should be

1070
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 8: on their draft picks. The first time, he didn't answer

1071
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 8: the question. The second time he was asked about it,

1072
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 8: he just said, you know, for me personally, my only

1073
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 8: mindset is to come back and be ready to work

1074
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 8: every single day, no matter who's there. And then when

1075
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 8: I followed up and asked, well, if this is status quo,

1076
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 8: what are your expectations for what the Lakers can be

1077
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 8: next season, he just said, my expectations are for us

1078
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 8: to go to work every day and try to get

1079
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 8: better every day and push each other every day. There's

1080
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 8: no talk about a championship or anything like this. So

1081
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 8: I think he's convened the fact that it's you know what,

1082
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 8: Like I tried my best, it's not in the cards.

1083
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 8: The roster is what it is. I got paid, and

1084
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 8: I'm going to make the best of it, and I

1085
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 8: won't complain anymore fair enough.

1086
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: And I just got out my Brandy to English dictionary translation.

1087
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 2: As long as I get on the floor with my

1088
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: son this year, I'm good.

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00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 3: That's why I see it. That's his total focus. In

1090
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 3: my opinion.

1091
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: He'll show up, he'll play hard, but he wants to

1092
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 2: be on the floor with his son and make history.

1093
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 3: And I think that's his number one priority.

1094
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, and he signed a near max steel. Now, look,

1095
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,919
Speaker 8: he did take a little bit of a pay cup

1096
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 8: three million, so they fell below the second apron, but

1097
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 8: I think larger point. Hey, they all took care of me.

1098
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 8: I'm still playing at a decently high level. Yes, I

1099
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 8: saw as I saw last season, when I played an

1100
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 8: all Star caliber level, it still didn't matter. So it's

1101
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 8: apples and oranges because Kobe Bryant was fighting through all

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00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 8: sorts of injuries his final years. But it really reminded

1103
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 8: me of Kobe's rhetoric when he was having his summer

1104
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 8: camp in twenty fourteen, and they struck out yet again

1105
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 8: on free agency, this time to Carmelo Anthony and instead

1106
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 8: of you know, seething that he doesn't have a good

1107
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 8: roster like, he was very pragmatic about it. I think

1108
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 8: that that basically sent the same message a Lebron stud

1109
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 8: that he knows, you know what, there's no way this

1110
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 8: team can compete, So I'm over complaining about it. It's

1111
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 8: almost like the old married couple that you know, just

1112
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 8: figure out the best way to salvage everything is just

1113
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 8: to stop arguing about that.

1114
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Lebron is metaphorically a walking old married couple.

1115
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 3: But that's a compedation.

1116
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 2: Mark, good stuff as always, and we shall see what

1117
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 2: the new cycle brings. By the way, we'll have you

1118
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,919
Speaker 2: on this Thursday night. I'll be sitting in for Ben

1119
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 2: Mallor on the eve of the NBA Summer League, and

1120
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 2: you know there'll be headlines between now and Thursdays, So

1121
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 2: look forward to having you then, Mark, all right, looking.

1122
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 8: Forward to we'll talk about a third player named Ronnie

1123
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 8: coming up.

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00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 3: Yep, I heard all about read all about it in

1125
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 3: the papers. All right, Mark, and joy the rest of

1126
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 3: your review, my friend. Thanks so much. That is Mark

1127
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 3: Medina Medina Magic.

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Speaker 2: Every Saturday night here at twelve midnight Pacific time on

1129
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show. We do it fifty two weeks

1130
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 2: a year because the reality of it is, there is

1131
00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 2: always news in the National Basketball Association. Up the Yankees,

1132
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 2: Well they got to win today, But what has happened

1133
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 2: in the last three weeks? Just three weeks ago they

1134
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 2: were eighteen games over five hundred and they were looking

1135
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 2: like they were running away with the world with a

1136
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: seven hundred winning percentage. Since then, some panic had set in.

1137
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Speaker 2: Give you some quick thoughts on it as we opine.

1138
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Fraddle, coming to you live from the Las

1139
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 2: Vegas Fox Sports Radio to IRAQ dot com studios. Keep

1140
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 2: it locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle

1141
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: Show on Fox Sports Radio.

1142
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 3: Now were back in the Bernie Fradtle Show, Fox Sports Radio,

1143
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 3: Come to you live from you TIREC dot com.

1144
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 2: Studios here in Las Vegas. Where to the sort of

1145
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 2: the facto halfway point in baseball? Even though we're past

1146
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 2: a halfway point and common parlance used to suggest that

1147
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: if you're in first place on July fourth, well you're

1148
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: probably gonna win the Pennant. Oh, things have really changed

1149
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 2: quite a bit. And I talked about this Yether night

1150
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: with Arnie. We are sort of watching some of these

1151
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 2: second half stories, not the least of which that I

1152
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 2: think Baltimore and the Yankees are going to duke it out.

1153
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 2: And three weeks ago it didn't so much slip that way.

1154
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: The Yankees were forty nine and twenty one. They had

1155
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 2: just beaten Kansas City eleven to five. They had a

1156
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 2: seven hundred winning percentage. Had they continue on that pace,

1157
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: well they'd win one hundred and twelve games. Well, that

1158
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 2: doesn't happen even with the Yankees, right, So they ended

1159
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 2: up losing fourteen of their last nineteen games. They did

1160
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 2: win on Saturday, but prior to Saturday they were five

1161
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 2: and fourteen. So what has gone wrong for New York

1162
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 2: during this stretch. One of the biggest issues at the

1163
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 2: depth of their lineup was somewhat exposed after getting dealt

1164
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: well I would consider to be a very serious blow

1165
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 2: when g and Carlos Stanton went on the injured list.

1166
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 2: Well that's you know, death taxes and G and Carlo

1167
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 2: Stanton going on the injured list.

1168
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 3: But he has a hamstring strain, and those are a nightmare.

1169
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 3: Those just Linger right.

1170
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,959
Speaker 2: He had a terrible season last year, but Stanton had

1171
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 2: really bounced back this year eighteen home runs and sixty

1172
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 2: nine games, and he was certainly bolstered by the fact

1173
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 2: he had Juan Soto in the lineup behind him protecting him,

1174
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 2: and also Aaron Judge. However, you've got his absence now

1175
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 2: gives the Yankees a real void.

1176
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 3: Now.

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01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 2: Alex Verdugo has taken his place in thirteen to the

1178
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 2: last nineteen games, but his slugging percentage is three h

1179
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: six that's almost one hundred points below the league average.

1180
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 2: The other issues at the Yankees' pitching staff, which I

1181
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 2: think had overachieved the first half. Unexpectedly they were superb.

1182
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 2: They had a hot start, but downright or lately, they've

1183
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 2: been downright stinky. They just simply have. They have a

1184
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: lot over one hundred and twenty runs over the last

1185
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 2: nineteen games. That's almost seven runs a game more than

1186
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 2: any other team in the majors for that entire stretch.

1187
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 2: You still got Aaron Judge, probably the best hitter in

1188
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 2: baseball right now, but no g and Carlo Stanton. The

1189
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: pitching staff's come back to Earth.

1190
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Speaker 3: And so the.

1191
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 2: Yankees may be scuffling for a while, will the Orioles

1192
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 2: take advantage? Well, they're trying to. But I think it

1193
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 2: might make for an interesting, I believe interesting penn and

1194
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 2: race as it were. We haven't had one of those

1195
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 2: in really quite a while. And with the expanded playoff format.

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01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 2: You know why guess whose name is back in the news?

1197
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 2: A former coach, an NFL coach, a former Raiders coach

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01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 2: by the name of John Gruden.

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Speaker 3: Why was his name in the news last week?

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Speaker 2: But I'll tell you coming up, But first we go

1201
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 2: to our guy, Steve Desager with the latest. All right,

1202
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 2: thanks Steve. So John Gruden, you may recall it seems

1203
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 2: like eons ago. He hasn't coached since twenty twenty one.

1204
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 2: That was that nightmarish season with the Uh Boy. A

1205
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 2: lot happened to the Raiders that year, and Rich Bassaccia

1206
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 2: managed to help get them into the playoffs, the Henry

1207
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 2: rug situation, and John Gruden lost his job. Remember the

1208
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 2: emails that were leaked to the media before he resigned

1209
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: as coach of the Raiders. Well, John Gruden filed a

1210
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 2: lawsuit and just this last Monday, in three Nevada Supreme

1211
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 2: Court justices. John Gruden wanted to ask them to reconsider

1212
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 2: whether the lawsuit he filed against the NFL over those

1213
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 2: league emails should be heard in court or private arbitration.

1214
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 2: If it's in private arbitration, it clearly favors the NFL.

1215
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 3: Which I always thought it would be.

1216
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 2: But the attorneys for Gruden and the league in the NFL,

1217
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 2: they're kind of keeping this quiet. They're not really talking

1218
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: about it a lot.

1219
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 3: Because.

1220
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 2: What the league apparently wants to do is move this

1221
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 2: civil contract interference in this conspiracy case, get it out

1222
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 2: of state court, and get it into arbitration, which could

1223
01:03:54,840 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 2: be seen it would be overseen by the Honorable Commisioner

1224
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 2: Roger Goodell. So the lawsuit that John Gruden filed clear

1225
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 2: back in November twenty twenty one allege is that Roger

1226
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 2: Goodell and the league forced him to resign from the

1227
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 2: Raiders when they leaked those emails, which are brutal.

1228
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 3: That's just not let's not mince words here.

1229
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 2: They were racist, they were sexist, they were homophobic, and

1230
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 2: they apparently were emails that he'd sent earlier when he

1231
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 2: was at ESPN. But that doesn't excuse anything, right, So

1232
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 2: there's a there's a ruling that basically said that Gruden

1233
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 2: understood that the NFL constitution allows for arbitration to resolve

1234
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 2: these disputes. And at this point it appears that's where

1235
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 2: that's headed. It's not one hundred percent clear whether Roger

1236
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 2: Goodell or they'll have a designated third party arbitrator that

1237
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 2: would hear Gruden's case. Right now, there was one dissenting

1238
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 2: justice that wrote it would be out ages for Goodell

1239
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 2: to arbitrate the dispute.

1240
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 3: Because he's a name defendant. All right.

1241
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 2: Remember John Gruden moved to Vegas in twenty twenty when

1242
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 2: the Raiders moved here, and he got a ten year,

1243
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: ten one hundred million dollar contract. So look, these emails

1244
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,959
Speaker 2: in question were sent apparently through a during a seven

1245
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:28,439
Speaker 2: year period to former Washington commandadors exact, Bruce Allen, when

1246
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 2: John Gruden was with ESPN, and they were found they

1247
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 2: had to prouse over six hundred thousand emails that the

1248
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 2: league obtained during a workplace culture investigation. Remember, Daniel Snyder

1249
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 2: no longer owns the Washington commander, so things seemed kind

1250
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 2: of quiet there now, right. But John Gruden is very

1251
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 2: much seeking monetary damages. He believes that the selective disclosure

1252
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 2: of those emails and subsequently being publicized I think they

1253
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 2: were in the Wall Street Journal in the New York Times.

1254
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 2: Gruden says that destroyed his career and in ruined all

1255
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 2: of his endorsement contracts. And this guy who's been in

1256
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 2: the league since nineteen ninety, right, I mean, he's.

1257
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 3: Been a coach a long time.

1258
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: He's been with the Tampa Bay Box Oakland, got the

1259
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 2: Bucks to a Super Bowl and three. He spent several

1260
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 2: years as an analyst for ESPN before finally being hired

1261
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: by the Raiders in twenty eighteen. So John Gruden named

1262
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 2: back in the news. We're gonna follow this because it'll

1263
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 2: be interesting to see where it goes. And right now

1264
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 2: I would say it's I don't know how good it's

1265
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 2: looking for John Gruden with respect to try to get

1266
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 2: a judgment on this case. But again I'm speaking from

1267
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 2: someone clearly on the outside looking in.

1268
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 3: We stick with the NFL.

1269
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny Friday night, I have a segment

1270
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 2: called The Midnight Hour. It runs from twelve minute Pacific

1271
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 2: time for an hour. Callers just superb last night and

1272
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 2: one of the subject matters we had had to do

1273
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 2: with whether or not the Dallas Cowboys are still quasi

1274
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 2: America's team. We know they haven't won anything in forever,

1275
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 2: but due to their marketing, due to their presence, due

1276
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 2: to their aura, everything from the Dallas Cowboy cheerlers and

1277
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 2: the fact that more people watched Dallas Cowboys games on

1278
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 2: TV than any other team in the league last year,

1279
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 2: including the Kansas City Chiefs, which for second, are they

1280
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 2: in fact still America's team? Well, the Chiefs are getting

1281
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 2: ready to three P. Nobode's talking about that. Why not

1282
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 2: are getting ready to attempt to three P? And I

1283
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 2: think they can do it. I don't know if they

1284
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 2: will do it, but I think they can. What a

1285
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 2: storyline that will be this year? What are we talking

1286
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 2: about though, Mike McCarthy, Barney Rebbel quibbling with Jerry Jones,

1287
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 2: he doesn't have a contract yet, Ceedee Lamb wants to

1288
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 2: get paid, Micah Parsons wants to get paid. And oh,

1289
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: by the way, Dak Prescott wants to get paid and

1290
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 2: what he's on vacation and a photo on social media

1291
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 2: showed Dak Prescott wearing a walking boot. Okay, what the

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Speaker 2: Sam Hell's going on here, I'll explain. Coming up, I'm

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Speaker 2: Bernie Frowder. We are Comedy lyve from the Las Vegas

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio diirect dot com Studios. Keep it lockar,

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Speaker 2: you're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh we're back on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Come to your line from tyrec dot com studios here

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. Take hip to three am Pacific, six

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Speaker 2: am Eastern. Want to bring Shane into this conversation the

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. Well, it's all sort of started the other

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Speaker 2: day because Cam Dudon. You remember Cam Duden went on

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Speaker 2: a rent and he was on a podcast called The

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Speaker 2: Fourth and One, and he basically said that he's angry

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Speaker 2: that the Cowboys are called America's team by some and

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Speaker 2: should not be due to their lack of recent success.

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Speaker 3: He said, quote, they don't seem to know how to win.

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Speaker 2: And then everybody points fingers at Dak quote I understand

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Speaker 2: the whole America's team.

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Speaker 3: That is not America's team. No more ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who had to say that the Kansas

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Speaker 2: City Chiefs is America's team by way of who's Dayton

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Speaker 2: who and who's winning what?

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Speaker 3: They are America's team.

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Speaker 2: Let's stop lying to ourselves, Okay, if you all want

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Speaker 2: to get back to that title, you got to obviously win, Okay,

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Speaker 2: and quote, well, maybe you should stop lying to yourself, Cam,

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Speaker 2: because you could have made the same comments about the

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Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs and given them their flowers without ever

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Speaker 2: invoking the Dallas Cowboys. So that's a tacit admission to

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Speaker 2: me that on some level the Cowboys are America's team

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Speaker 2: in their consciousness and their awareness. Remember, the opposite of

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Speaker 2: love is not hate, its indifference, so people might hate

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Speaker 2: watch as well. Shay, you got some thoughts on this?

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Speaker 2: Are the Cowboys? Can you make a case like it

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Speaker 2: or not? Even though they don't win, still America's team

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Speaker 2: on some level.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: It's actually funny that you were talking about this, because

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Speaker 7: I myself was. I was with Doug Gottlieb this past

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Speaker 7: week and we were we brought this topic up on

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Speaker 7: his in the Bonus podcast, and basically what I was

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Speaker 7: saying is why are they still relevant? Why after twenty

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Speaker 7: seven it's twenty seven years I think since they last

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Speaker 7: won their twenty eight years. Actually, yes, since they last

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Speaker 7: won their last Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: And I've got an answer to that, but continue on. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I'll have an answer for you.

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Speaker 7: Why are they still basically relevant? Why are we talking

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Speaker 7: about them? Why am I seeing them in the headlines,

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Speaker 7: even though every headline I've seen about them in the

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Speaker 7: last year or like that I even remember of has

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Speaker 7: been negative, from CD LAMB to Micah Parsons podcast to

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Speaker 7: Dak with his Walking boot. It's never necessarily something that's good.

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Speaker 7: But what Doug said is they sell. Instead of selling

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Speaker 7: basically dynasties, they're selling They're selling what I'd like to say, drama,

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Speaker 7: and like that's what America loves.

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Speaker 3: Well. Who is selling the drama?

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Speaker 6: The Cowboys, the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Jerry Cowboys pr selling exactly.

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Speaker 6: There's let me a dress.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have a goo two way discussion here. Let

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Speaker 3: me set this up.

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Speaker 2: This all goes back to nineteen seventy eight NFL films,

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Speaker 2: The Great Steve Sable and Ed Sable did a feature

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Speaker 2: called America's Team and it all came about because one

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Speaker 2: of their producers by the name of Bob Bryan. Not

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Speaker 2: the same Bob Brian as the Boston Globe, but Bob

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Speaker 2: Brian was looking around saying, who is the most popular

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Speaker 2: team in America? And as he did his research, he

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Speaker 2: discovered that the Dallas Cowboys consistently have more fans of

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys at away games than any other team in

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Speaker 2: the NFL.

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Speaker 3: So he concluded.

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Speaker 2: They're the most popular team. He says, in fact, they're

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Speaker 2: America's team.

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Speaker 3: Now. People can find this video on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: It's called America's Team nineteen seventy eight NFL Films. They

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Speaker 2: can find it. That's how the ball got rolling. Fast

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Speaker 2: forward to last year, there are still more fans Shay

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Speaker 2: that watched Dallas Cowboys games on Network TV cumulatively than

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Speaker 2: any other team in the league, including the Kansas City Chiefs. So,

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Speaker 2: with all the respect to Doug, I don't know what

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Speaker 2: he's talking about. When it is you Dallas would intentionally

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Speaker 2: sell drama. Jerry Jones, I think they're just drama because

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Speaker 2: they're a bunch of egotistical maniacs, and also that I

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Speaker 2: think a lot of reasons the Cowboys are still in

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Speaker 2: the news. Is there a victim of their past success.

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Speaker 3: And people even though they give you no reason to

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Speaker 3: expect them to win, and when they don't, there's a

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Speaker 3: whole other faction of people that are happy they're in

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Speaker 3: lives with large audience. Okay, you've got the floor of

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Speaker 3: my friend.

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Speaker 6: And I want to add on that.

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Speaker 7: Honestly, something else that I could see, Like in the

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Speaker 7: nineties they won three Super Bowls, yes, sir, and it

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Speaker 7: honestly like created a new generation of basically this America's

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Speaker 7: team legacy, you know what I mean, in.

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Speaker 6: The nineties exactly.

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Speaker 7: And now those those not in the nineties, like yeah,

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Speaker 7: let's say they were twenty years old. Now those guys

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Speaker 7: are fifty, they have kids, and those kids are going

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Speaker 7: to become Cowboys fans no matter where they're at, it

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Speaker 7: doesn't matter. I mean in Los Angeles. I live in

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Speaker 7: Los Angeles. I'm a Browns fan, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't do it that way with it, but it's

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Speaker 7: it's I can see why they're still America's team.

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Speaker 3: By the way, the rounds open up with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'm very excited.

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Speaker 2: And the Browns I think are going to be sneaky

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Speaker 2: good this year. But think about what you just said,

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Speaker 2: because it's very insightful. This nineties version of the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: really enhanced the whole America's Team, Moniker. Some of the

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Speaker 2: callers last night thought it started with them. I said, no,

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Speaker 2: not at all. It started in nineteen seventy eight when

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Speaker 2: Clint Murchison owned the team tech Shram Tom Landry that

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Speaker 2: whole deal. And that was eleven full years before Jerry

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Speaker 2: Jones Bottom and brought in Jimmy Johnson and they had

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Speaker 2: the you know, the herschel Walker trade where there was

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Speaker 2: the most infamous trade in history. People were talking about

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Speaker 2: that last night in my show, even though it's been

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Speaker 2: thirty five years. So what that did was set the

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Speaker 2: stage for America's Team to continue on well into the nineties.

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Speaker 3: See you bring up a valid point.

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Speaker 6: No, yeah, I mean they were crazy in the seventies too.

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Speaker 7: You had the crazy Roger Stope what was his name,

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Speaker 7: Roger Staubach style back.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and they Tony.

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Speaker 2: Dor said Super Bowls in the seventies and you know

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Speaker 2: they had that goofy stadium there with a whole I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know allegedly they ran out of money when they built.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, but you know what they're

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Speaker 2: you know what their raction I was, we built a

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Speaker 2: stadium with a hole on the top. So God could

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Speaker 2: watch Cowboys games. They really believe their own bs. But

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Speaker 2: they packed it up on the field, and they had

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Speaker 2: legendary players, you know, Randy White right on.

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Speaker 3: Down the line.

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Speaker 6: So I think they were good at the right times,

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: It's once they started losing a little bit, they started

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Speaker 7: losing some traction, then bang they have three.

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Speaker 6: They have a year a century where they have three

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Speaker 6: Super Bowls. So it's like, all right, we're.

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Speaker 7: Gonna We're gonna go ahead, and we'll give them some

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Speaker 7: more time. I think in the next five years, if

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Speaker 7: they're not able to get a Super Bowl, then we'll

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Speaker 7: start seeing a big decline in these Cowboys fans. Once

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Speaker 7: my generation starts having kids. I definitely do think we'll

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Speaker 7: see a dcne in in the Cowboys fans if they

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Speaker 7: think it's gonna end sh when.

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Speaker 2: For whatever reason, and I hope he lives a long

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Speaker 2: time because I like him. Jerry Jones is no longer

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Speaker 2: the owner of the Cowboys. I think it's gonna I

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Speaker 2: think it's at that point going to start to fall

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Speaker 2: off a cliff because Jerry is a master marketer, and

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Speaker 2: if you know the story behind him building Jerry Dome

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Speaker 2: and how scared he was and the risk he took,

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Speaker 2: and how there was so much pressure to pay.

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Speaker 3: For that thing. Dude, he really came through and.

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01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 2: He started out as a wildcatter and oil field so

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Speaker 2: he's been a risk taker his whole life. I've always

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Speaker 2: had sort of this sexy image around him, whether you

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Speaker 2: like him or not. And if Jerry Jones goes away,

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Speaker 2: he's very polarizing. You'd agree with that, right.

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Speaker 7: No, of course, Jerry Land. He's the creator of Jerry

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Speaker 7: Land and.

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Speaker 3: If you know, again, I hope he lives a long time.

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Speaker 2: But if for whatever reason he's no longer the owner

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Speaker 2: of the Cowboys, I think it changes the dynamic.

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Speaker 7: I completely agree, And but I mean, is it's going

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Speaker 7: to be his daughter that takes over. I'm assuming, but

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Speaker 7: you're definitely right about that. It's well, I want to

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Speaker 7: circle around back to the drama thing. I think he

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Speaker 7: adds to that drama as well. And it's something that

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Speaker 7: you said to yourself when he made that risk, everyone

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Speaker 7: was looking at him, all eyes were on him, and

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Speaker 7: it's something that with the Cowboys, it's much more than

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Speaker 7: just a football team. The entertainment value that comes with

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Speaker 7: it is just tenfold compared to most teams well.

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Speaker 2: And I think they embrace the America's team image. Right

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Speaker 2: The Kansas City Chiefs aort of the moment's rage. And

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Speaker 2: it doesn't hurt that Travis Kelsey is dating Taylor Swift

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Speaker 2: and she's going to be a fixture in Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: I understand she's going to go to every game this

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Speaker 2: coming year. They're on their way to three pete. I've

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Speaker 2: always gotten a kick out of Andy Reid. But and

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Speaker 2: ironically or coincidentally, the Chiefs, she were born in Dallas

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Speaker 2: as the Dallas Texans in nineteen sixty before they moved

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Speaker 2: to Kansas City. But only the Cowboys seem to want

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Speaker 2: to continue to embrace this image, right. This where the

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Speaker 2: homecoming Queen, even though it's thirty five years later and

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Speaker 2: we lost.

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Speaker 3: Our looks and they no longer win.

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Speaker 2: But it's also bolstered by the fact that there are

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Speaker 2: Cowboy fans in every city that lived there and they

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Speaker 2: still root for that team and they're living in the past.

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Speaker 2: And again, I think it's a team that is still

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Speaker 2: very much a victim of their own success, and people

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Speaker 2: expect him to continue to have success even though they don't.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going off a cliff this year, and

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Speaker 2: I think you could see Mike McCarthy fired mid season.

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Speaker 2: They opened up because Cleveland. Don't be surprised. If Cleveland

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Speaker 2: wins that game, then they got Baltimore week three. I

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Speaker 2: didn't even get to the Dak Prescott boot. That's what

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Speaker 2: started this whole thing. Dak Prescott in a boot is

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Speaker 2: a bigger headline than the Chiefs trying to repeat.

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Speaker 3: I've got to get to that.

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Speaker 2: And what Dak Prescott is saying why he's in the

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Speaker 2: boot is gonna crack you up. Come on, man, you're

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Speaker 2: peeing on my boots and telling me a training keep

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Speaker 2: it Locket's the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's right, you heard the man. The Bernie Frales Show

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Speaker 2: keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie Froddle. We

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Speaker 2: So this part of this whole Dallas Cowboy. Whether or

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01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 2: not they are the America's team that caused Cam Newton

1511
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 2: to go on a rant the other day. He's born

1512
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 2: of the fact that they're always in the news and is,

1513
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 2: like Shay said, never usually for good reasons. Well it

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01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 2: happened again. Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott caught people's attention when

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01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 2: a photo on social media appeared this last week showed

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01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 2: him wearing a walking boot on his right ankle while

1517
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 2: he was vacationing in Mexico Cobble St.

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01:18:58,160 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 3: Lucas.

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01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 2: However, in Dak Prescott form, he attempted to, you know,

1520
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 2: tamp down the concern. He told Clarence Hill of the

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01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,640
Speaker 2: Fort Worth Star Telegram, what was just part of my

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01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 2: regular maintenance that he has to do since fracturing his

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01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 2: right ankle in twenty twenty. Aine, you may have forgotten

1524
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 2: that it's been four years. Prescott had a bad, bad,

1525
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 2: bad right ankle surgery compound fracture, dislocation against the New

1526
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 2: York Giants four years ago, miss basically the last three

1527
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 2: months of the season. So he told the reporter for

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01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 2: the Telegram, same ankle, same issues, and Prescott told him he, well,

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01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 2: I wear the boot on vacation because the last time

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01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 2: I went deep sea fishing, my ankle swoll up.

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01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 3: But I'm great, Okay, really, are we really going to

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01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 3: do this? Then?

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01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 2: Then why didn't we see you wearing the boot in

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01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 2: the off seat? He's in the last four years, Like

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01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 2: when you're in barbecues or miniature golfing or bowling or

1536
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 2: whatever the hell you do in the offseason, how call

1537
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 2: them all of a sudden, we see it now, right?

1538
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,799
Speaker 2: And by the way, Dak Prescott's no stranger to injury.

1539
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 2: He missed a couple of games in twenty twenty one

1540
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 2: with a calf strain. He missed four or five games

1541
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 2: the following year with a fractured thumb. His past year,

1542
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 2: he did play in all seventeen games, finished second to

1543
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson an MVP voting. But Prescott is entering the

1544
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 2: final year of his contract and he's doing extension, and

1545
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 2: he wants that extension that's expected to make him the

1546
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 2: highest paid player in the NFL. I think Jerry Jones

1547
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 2: has a real, real dilemma on his hands because this

1548
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 2: guy can't win a playoff game. And yeah, it is

1549
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 2: a lot of his fault because when the heat gets

1550
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 2: hot and it's hard to breathe, and it matters. He

1551
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,799
Speaker 2: doesn't come through, He makes bad decisions and he gets

1552
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 2: beaten in Mike McCarthy been out coached pretty consistently in

1553
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 2: the last four years or the last three years, in

1554
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 2: every big game. And I think Jerry Jones is put

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01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 2: off by the fact. I mean, and I know that.

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01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 3: Here's the dilemma.

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01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 2: If you're the Cowboys, you sure as hell don't want

1558
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 2: to go back to the Drew Henson Quincy Carter era, right,

1559
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 2: you don't want that. But at the same time, do

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01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 2: you just automatically pay your quarterback sixty million dollars just

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01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 2: just because it's his turn, just because the other guys

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01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:42,600
Speaker 2: are getting that? And the truth of the matter is

1563
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 2: that I actually think this could be the year. And

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01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 2: Dallas has gone twelve and five the last three years, right,

1565
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 2: But what have they done? What have they done when

1566
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,679
Speaker 2: it comes to the playoffs, and what have they done

1567
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 2: when it comes to Jerry Jones desperately wanting to win

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01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl without being attached to Jimmy Johnson. Remember

1569
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson won two. They had that breakup in March

1570
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 2: of ninety four. To this day, I still can't believe.

1571
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 2: And it all stemmed from the fact, I guess Jerry

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01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 2: told somebody the banquet, well, any one of one hundred

1573
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 2: coaches could have won with that team. That wasn't really

1574
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 2: fair to Jimmy Johnson. He was an architect of a

1575
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 2: hell of a team. Barry Switzer took over, was very shrewd,

1576
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 2: knew how to knew how to stay the hell out

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01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 2: of the way, and the Cowboys won again and won

1578
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 2: one more just for fun in ninety six. So the

1579
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 2: truth of the matter is we're just getting the tip

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01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:43,600
Speaker 2: of the iceberg, and the Cowboys fans are getting more

1581
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 2: and more frustrated. They've not made it past the divisional round.

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01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:48,600
Speaker 2: For they're winning a super Bowl. They haven't made it

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01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 2: past the divisional round since January of nineteen ninety six.

1584
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 2: And when you look at their roster on paper, they

1585
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 2: appear to be very talented. It just can't seem to

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01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 2: get over the hump when accounts now. I've mentioned the

1587
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 2: issues with Dak Prescott, I've mentioned the issues with Mike McCarthy, etc.

1588
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:09,719
Speaker 2: How about Dallas's running game. They opted to let Tony

1589
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 2: Pollard walk away in free agency after a not very

1590
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 2: good twenty twenty three season. But here's the problem. Who

1591
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 2: they replaced him with. There was thoughts that the Cowboys

1592
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 2: would go after Derrick Henry. He was widely viewed as

1593
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 2: a potential target going into the off season. But then

1594
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 2: the Cowboys allegedly or apparently extensively, they ended up not

1595
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 2: expressing any interest in Derrick Henry. He ended up signing

1596
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 2: to Henry ended up signing with the Baltimore Ravens. Then

1597
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 2: they were even, you know, talking about bringing it back

1598
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 2: to Ezekiel Elliott, which I believe they have done. That

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01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 2: feels a little bit like a panic move. So here's

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01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 2: your Dallas cowboy running back room, Ezekiel Elliott, Douce Vaughn

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01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 2: and Rico Dowdle. Now, who knows, maybe they'll go out

1602
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 2: and light it up right. You know, the importance of

1603
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 2: the ground is not what it used to be. It's

1604
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 2: been diminished in the modern NFL. It's basically become basketball

1605
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 2: on turf. But you cannot be one dimensional. You cannot

1606
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 2: be one dimensional in even this man's NFL. And when

1607
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 2: it comes to getting the hard yard on the gold line,

1608
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 2: moving the chains on third down, burning clock in the

1609
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 2: fourth quarter to hold a lead. You've got to be

1610
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 2: able to run the ball. What kind of rushing attack

1611
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 2: are the Cowboys going to get? And if you don't

1612
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 2: get a rushing attack, guess what. You sit back and

1613
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 2: you let you create real worry on the face of

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01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,600
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott. I don't dislike Dak Prescott. It's just in

1615
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 2: a way it matters. He's really good when it doesn't matter.

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01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 2: And speaking of guys to throw to do, the Cowboys

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01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 2: have an augh depth of wide receiver. Yes, you've got

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01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 2: CD Lamb. He's you could make a case he's the

1619
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 2: best receiver in football. He's probably not, but he's He's

1620
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:52,719
Speaker 2: on the short list, as bum Phillips used to say,

1621
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know who's head of the class,

1622
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 2: but don't take long to call roll ceedee. Lamb is

1623
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 2: near the top, and he wants to get paid, so

1624
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 2: you gotta believe he's motivated. But you got Brandon Cooks

1625
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 2: as your number two receiver, fairly big name, but he

1626
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 2: was a big disappointment in Dallas last year. After that,

1627
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 2: you tell me if you've ever heard guys like Jalen

1628
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 2: Tolbert and Jalen Brooks, they've never proven themselves on the

1629
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 2: NFL level. Once again, they say the Cowboys were all in,

1630
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 2: but they completely ignored the wide receiver position in free agency.

1631
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 2: They didn't do anything in free agency in any position

1632
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 2: really of substance when it comes down to it. They

1633
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 2: also did not use a high draft pick on a receiver.

1634
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 2: So you've got a questionable running game and you've got

1635
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 2: a questionable depth a wide receiver. You got Slim Pickens.

1636
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 2: Now not the actor Slim Pickens. You know where I'm

1637
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 2: getting again, Ceedee Lamb, He's the real deal. All this

1638
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 2: leads to, I think perhaps the biggest question of all,

1639
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 2: what is the mindset in the zeitgeist and the culture

1640
01:25:54,560 --> 01:26:00,040
Speaker 2: of the locker room today. Everybody can see that the

1641
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 2: Coboys are having a lot of organizational issues. Dak Prescott's

1642
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 2: looking for a new deal, he hasn't got one, Ceed

1643
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 2: Lambis threatening to hold out, Micah Parsons. Haven't he brought

1644
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 2: up his name, Superstar Edge Rusher. He's at odds, I believe,

1645
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 2: quietly with the team, and there are rumors he's at

1646
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:25,759
Speaker 2: odds with safety Malie Hooker. And then you are hearing

1647
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 2: and I don't know. Again, clearly this is somebody from

1648
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 2: the outside looking in. There have been allegations that the

1649
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 2: Cowboys themselves are getting tired of Micah Parson's behavior. I

1650
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 2: don't know what that behavior entails. Michael Parsons, he's a

1651
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 2: terrific player.

1652
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 3: What this all does?

1653
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 2: You added up and put it into a blender and

1654
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 2: you have the proverbial volatile situation. And I just told Shay,

1655
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 2: I think Cleveland can beat the Cowboys week one.

1656
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 3: I think Cleveland's gonna be good. I really do.

1657
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if Deshaun Watson's going to be any good.

1658
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 2: Rounds are going to be good, and I there's a

1659
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 2: lot to like about them. Conversation for a different day,

1660
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:09,719
Speaker 2: I agree it, yeah, and we'll follow that throughout the season, Shay,

1661
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,640
Speaker 2: and I believe the Cowboys don't have the schedule in

1662
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 2: front of me. I believe they have Baltimore in week

1663
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 2: three and they they've got the Lions in week five.

1664
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 2: If the Cowboys get off to a rocky start, what

1665
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 2: does that do to the state of the locker room.

1666
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 2: Throw in the fact Mike McCarthy's on the hot seat,

1667
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 2: and you get this perfect storm, which is which is

1668
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 2: saying I hate but it is starting to become the

1669
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 2: perfect storm.

1670
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 3: What solves all this winning?

1671
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 2: All Right, Dallas has the benefit of playing in a

1672
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 2: relatively easy division. It's them in Philadelphia. However, I think

1673
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 2: Philadelphia is better than Dallas. So you add up everything

1674
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 2: I just said, Throw in a difficult schedule, some internal conflict,

1675
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy, Jerry Jones, and everything. I I don't think

1676
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 2: I left anything out. And the truth of the matter

1677
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:07,919
Speaker 2: is this is shaping up to look like a real.

1678
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 3: This could be the year.

1679
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 2: This could be the year that it finally goes off

1680
01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 2: a cliff for the Dallas Cowboys. Not necessarily predicting it,

1681
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 2: but what I will say is this that things look

1682
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 2: shakier there than at any time I can recall in

1683
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 2: recent memory.

1684
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 3: So there you have it. Coming up.

1685
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 2: Well, it looks like the US men's national team and

1686
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 2: Greg Borberhoalter his future will be decided next week after

1687
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 2: they flop at Copa America.

1688
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 3: We talk about that. Coming up.

1689
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 2: Hi, Bernie Frattle, We're coming to you live from the

1690
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tirack dot Com studios.

1691
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 3: Keep it locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie

1692
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 3: Frale Show on Fox Sports Radio.

1693
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 2: All right, back on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports

1694
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 2: Radio coming to live from the tarret dot Com studios

1695
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. They were forty one minutes away

1696
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 2: the dance Sensation sweep in the nation. What kind of

1697
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 2: brand new fool you followed by what my name?

1698
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 3: Well?

1699
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:17,839
Speaker 2: As Copa America continues, there is one team noticeably absent.

1700
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,599
Speaker 2: And before I'll tell you, before I dive into this chef,

1701
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,759
Speaker 2: do you think Greg Berhalter should be fired?

1702
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 3: And do you think he will be fired? Two different questions.

1703
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 9: I'm not sure if he will be fired. I think

1704
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 9: he should be just because I was such a disastrous

1705
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 9: performance by the United States men's national team in a

1706
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 9: Copa America. He not even making it out of the

1707
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 9: group stage and I think they only had one point

1708
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 9: in group play, So I mean that was just not

1709
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 9: a showing that that meant the expectations that is this program.

1710
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 9: I mean, they made it to the knockout stage in

1711
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 9: the World Cup, and the idea is maybe, okay, they

1712
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 9: can build on that, maybe get themselves a little more

1713
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 9: competitive to maybe make it to the quarterfinal round. But

1714
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 9: with what they did in Copa America shows that they

1715
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 9: are still way behind the competitive countries in global soccer,

1716
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 9: So I think he should be fired because America should

1717
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:14,799
Speaker 9: strive to be better than they have been at soccer.

1718
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:17,679
Speaker 1: Whether he is or not, I'm not sure yet.

1719
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 2: Okay, that's well said because the people off talk to

1720
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 2: think he's coming back, but maybe he should be. Now,

1721
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 2: one last thing before I get to shay. Uruguay beat

1722
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 2: Brazil tonight, so maybe they're better than we thought. Does

1723
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 2: that take a little steam off the kettle? Knowing that

1724
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 2: we lost the urge but goes on and beats Brazil.

1725
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 9: Not really, just because it was accumulative showing in those

1726
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 9: three games. They just did not look that impressive the

1727
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 9: entire time they played, So with Uruguay having a better

1728
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 9: showing than expected, to me, doesn't really change a lot

1729
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 9: fair enough?

1730
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 2: And were not Were we not dubbed be the best

1731
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 2: talented roster we've ever had this year?

1732
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 3: Or did I read that wrong? I mean I had

1733
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:06,799
Speaker 3: heard someone mentioning that.

1734
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,559
Speaker 9: I have not necessarily heard that, but this is as

1735
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 9: good as they've been in a while, at least based

1736
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 9: on what I've heard. Yeah, I mean, I'm not the

1737
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 9: biggest expert on US soccer, but from what I've been reading,

1738
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:21,679
Speaker 9: at least there's a lot of expectation for these guys

1739
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 9: to perform and they haven't.

1740
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 2: Based on I think the talent we allegedly had Shay.

1741
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 2: Will Greg Halter be fired, yes or no? And should

1742
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 2: he be fired yes or no?

1743
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 6: I mean that's the issue with USA Soccer.

1744
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 7: It's we keep firing these coaches, I think. I mean

1745
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 7: it's necessarily. I don't think it's an issue at the

1746
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 7: coaching aspect at all. I think it's more of an

1747
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:49,759
Speaker 7: issue of the actual talent that we're surrounding around our coaches.

1748
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:52,719
Speaker 7: But I do think he'll get fired just because USA

1749
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 7: Soccer doesn't know how to learn from their mistakes. And

1750
01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 7: I brought this up on one of the shows this

1751
01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:01,719
Speaker 7: past week. Is it's not necessarily, as I said before,

1752
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 7: the coaches issue. It's the issue is we were when

1753
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 7: we had a way better showing in our FIFA World

1754
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:12,679
Speaker 7: Cup this past time, when we tied with Wales and

1755
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 7: tied with England and then b d Ron we made

1756
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 7: a mistake by not really providing the youth programs the

1757
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 7: money they needed because that's when soccer started blowing up

1758
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 7: way more in the USA. And if you look at

1759
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 7: it in twenty twenty, they lost so much money in

1760
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 7: the youth aspect, they were not putting anything in it.

1761
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 7: A lot of these specialized schools, like the Galaxy School

1762
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 7: near me lost its girls program. It's such an issue

1763
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:45,599
Speaker 7: that it's necessarily like they're shooting themselves in the foot

1764
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 7: over and over again because they're never making the right

1765
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:50,719
Speaker 7: decisions and they're never doing the right things. And people

1766
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 7: always say that, oh, what if Tyreek Hill was playing

1767
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 7: in soccer, like it would be a completely different story

1768
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 7: if our athletes were playing, Then why are we not

1769
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 7: promoting it more within youth programs.

1770
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 6: That's the main issue.

1771
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 7: It's not about the coaching, it's not about what we're

1772
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 7: surrounding our teams with. It's it's about getting the right

1773
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 7: people and understanding why our athletes aren't at the highest.

1774
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:16,640
Speaker 6: Peak they can be.

1775
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 7: It's because it's our youth programs are one of the

1776
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 7: worst in the world, and yet we have so much

1777
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 7: money that we could be putting into them. But like

1778
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 7: I was reading this article the other day that I'm

1779
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 7: going to bring up here right now, it's the the

1780
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:33,759
Speaker 7: Galaxy School like near me literally closed down. It's it's uh,

1781
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 7: it's girls, it's girls program. After the the the US

1782
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:42,559
Speaker 7: Soccer Initiative for the youth. I think it's the name

1783
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 7: of the organization was closed down, and it's causing such

1784
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 7: a huge ripple effect in domino effect going all the

1785
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 7: way up to our pro national league, and it's seriously,

1786
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 7: it's it's it's just upsetting because, honestly, like right after

1787
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,719
Speaker 7: the FIFA World Cup, I never saw more Americans talk

1788
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 7: about soccer ever in my life, and yet we did

1789
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 7: nothing with it. We did nothing with the hype and

1790
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 7: just nothing got like it just made no sense to me.

1791
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 6: Serious.

1792
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 2: So Greg, this is Greg Burhalter's second go around. It's

1793
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 2: my understanding the players like him. So I'm going to

1794
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 2: make a prediction that they're not going to fire them,

1795
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 2: and we'll revisit this next time.

1796
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 6: I hope they don't. I really hope they.

1797
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 2: My gut feel is that they will not, because, like

1798
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,759
Speaker 2: you said, we keep recycling coaches every two or three years,

1799
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 2: like go and at least in a brand new car

1800
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 2: every two or three years. You know that doesn't work

1801
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 2: and you lose that kind of continuity. So I'm gonna

1802
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 2: make that prediction. But like I asked the chef, the

1803
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 2: fact that they lost the US lost to Uruguay, which

1804
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 2: was a shocker. We needed to win that game. Then

1805
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 2: your Guay goes on and beat Brazil. Does that let

1806
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 2: a little bit of steam off the cattle in terms

1807
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:55,639
Speaker 2: of maybe we're not that far away A couple tweaks.

1808
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, does that help at all?

1809
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 1: It's probably not.

1810
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a stretch.

1811
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 7: It's it's definitely a stretch. I think it's more of

1812
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 7: just it's a stretch. Yeah, it's it's well, we'll just leave, yeah,

1813
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 7: I mean.

1814
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 3: We'll just leave there.

1815
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 2: So let me let me dive into this then, because

1816
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 2: the truth of the matter is, this is what's being

1817
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 2: talked about behind the four walls in the Ivory Tower.

1818
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 2: Greg Burghalter's time as the men's national team coach could

1819
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 2: be coming to an end. And uh, you don't hear

1820
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:36,519
Speaker 2: this name much, but the the US Soccer Federation Sporting

1821
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 2: director is a guy the name of a Matt Crocker,

1822
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:40,640
Speaker 2: and he's gonna make the decision quickly one way or

1823
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 2: the other. All right, he's gonna we are told that

1824
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:46,559
Speaker 2: he will make the decision by next Wednesday or Thursday.

1825
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:50,559
Speaker 2: And you have to make some kind of decision because

1826
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 2: even though you got a Copa America tournament, a prestigious tournament.

1827
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 2: We can't even make it out of group play. Somehow

1828
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:00,679
Speaker 2: we were ranked in a number eleven in the world,

1829
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 2: but yet we don't make it out of group play.

1830
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:08,760
Speaker 2: And although some people believe that that ranking should be

1831
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 2: in dispute, but we only beat Bolivia and then you

1832
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 2: lose to Panama on Uruguay and you needed to beat

1833
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 2: one of those to have a shot at advancing. So

1834
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 2: when you need to win, and then here come the platitudes.

1835
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 2: Right after the tournament, Crocker says, you know, we fell

1836
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 2: short of expectations. We must do better. Okay, YadA, YadA yah.

1837
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:33,960
Speaker 2: We get it, first time since twenty sixteen since the

1838
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 2: men's team competed in Copa America. Here's the problem. In

1839
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, obviously we hosted that event as well, but

1840
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 2: the US finished in fourth place in twenty sixteen, that

1841
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:50,920
Speaker 2: was tied for their best Copa finish ever, so we're

1842
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 2: going backwards. Then it comes a year after flopping at

1843
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:57,759
Speaker 2: the Gold Cup, which is a much less prestigious tournament,

1844
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 2: and those are teams in cocker Calf only, so the

1845
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 2: competition was down and the US had actually won six

1846
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:09,640
Speaker 2: Gold Cups in the last twenty four years, but you

1847
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 2: finished fourth and last year's edition, which was their lowest edition,

1848
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 2: or check that their lowest finish in twenty five years,

1849
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:20,879
Speaker 2: again an event we hosted, so as you can see,

1850
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 2: the team, the program, the US soccer in general is

1851
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:29,640
Speaker 2: going in the wrong direction. And I think that is

1852
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 2: perhaps the most problematic thing that we're facing right here,

1853
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 2: is not only are we not winning, we're going in

1854
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 2: the wrong direction. And I think that's it's a bitter

1855
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 2: pill for people to swallow. And you're going to see

1856
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 2: a decision made this week as to whether or not

1857
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 2: Greg Berhalter returns, you know, and I think the World

1858
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 2: Cup is in twenty twenty six.

1859
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty six, right.

1860
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 2: So we still got a couple, we got some years,

1861
01:37:56,760 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 2: we got a little bit of time. So that also, well,

1862
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 2: I think has to be part of the conversation. What

1863
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:06,560
Speaker 2: do I mean by that, Well, do we run the

1864
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:10,479
Speaker 2: risk of starting all over, restaffing recoaching once again for

1865
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:14,400
Speaker 2: the gazillion time, or do we have a situation where

1866
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 2: maybe you have to start over because if you keep

1867
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 2: on doing what you've been doing, you're going to keep

1868
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 2: on getting what you've been getting and I think that's

1869
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 2: that's a dynamic here that it's not sitting well with

1870
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 2: some people.

1871
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 7: Real quick, Brady, before before you move on, I wanted

1872
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:33,600
Speaker 7: to say the US Soccer that closed their development academy.

1873
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 7: So their entire development academy is what they closed in

1874
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:39,240
Speaker 7: twenty twenty because of COVID and everything, but they never

1875
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 7: rebrought it back up. So basically any specialized academy that

1876
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 7: was with through US Soccer or like MLS funded basically

1877
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 7: got closed down in twenty twenty. So you're definitely right.

1878
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:52,479
Speaker 7: We're definitely going backwards. And it's and it has all

1879
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 7: to do because we're just we're not really putting the

1880
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:56,040
Speaker 7: money that we used to put into it.

1881
01:38:57,120 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 2: Somewhere along the line, if enough of the right people care,

1882
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 2: this can be corrected. And this is a tacit admission

1883
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:07,640
Speaker 2: that enough of the right people simply don't care. Coming up,

1884
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:12,640
Speaker 2: imagine you win a championship and your team is for

1885
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:16,719
Speaker 2: sale and man, you talk about fetching a bag. Well,

1886
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 2: let me tell you what's going on. But first's go

1887
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 2: back to our guy, the chef with the latest.

1888
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:31,680
Speaker 3: Be be you the one for me? In all that

1889
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 3: I want to be.

1890
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 1: And me.

1891
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 3: Come up the chef with a baffo performance tonight.

1892
01:39:57,280 --> 01:40:01,120
Speaker 9: I had to go across Hell's Highway, which is Supulvida Pass.

1893
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 9: It took me two hours ago, about four miles, but

1894
01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:05,880
Speaker 9: I had to make it here at least give this

1895
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:06,680
Speaker 9: performance for.

1896
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 8: You, Burn.

1897
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 1: I had to. Really, I would have been upset if

1898
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't have made.

1899
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:15,559
Speaker 2: It in your bill, Yes, the fans are collectively cheering

1900
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 2: across the United States right.

1901
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:17,760
Speaker 1: Here we go.

1902
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:22,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, several people in Sacramento cheering because they're getting DeMar DeRozan.

1903
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:27,040
Speaker 9: The King's acquiring Rose DeRozan in a sign and trade

1904
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:31,679
Speaker 9: with the San Antonio Spurso. Harrison Barnes will be heading

1905
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:35,559
Speaker 9: to the Lone Star State. As for the Summer League aption,

1906
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:39,600
Speaker 9: Brownie James making his NBA Summer League debut, but it

1907
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 9: was a bit of a struggle, shooting two A nine

1908
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 9: from the field four points as the Lakers lost one

1909
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 9: oh W eight ninety four to the Sacramento Kings. On

1910
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 9: the women's side of things in the WNBA, Indiana trailing

1911
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 9: by eleven in the fourth quarter, but they're stay able

1912
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,200
Speaker 9: to beat the New York Liberty eighty three seventy eight,

1913
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 9: as Caitlin Clark recorded the first triple double by a

1914
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 9: rookie in at w NBA history in Major League Baseball, Dodgers,

1915
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 9: for the second day in a row, beat the Milwaukee Brewers,

1916
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:12,040
Speaker 9: winning at five to three. Shoeotani launching his twenty eighth

1917
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 9: home run of the season, braves over the Phillies five

1918
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 9: to one. The Guardians get by the San Francisco Giants

1919
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 9: five to four. The Angels get an outstanding bro performance

1920
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 9: from Tyler Anderson eight shutout innings as the Halos blank

1921
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:30,600
Speaker 9: the Cubs seven nothing. The Oakland Athletics, where did this

1922
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:33,600
Speaker 9: team come from? Nineteen to eight? They absolutely demolished the

1923
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 9: Orioles and it's a shame not many people there to

1924
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 9: see eighty five hundred fans in attendance at the Oakland Coliseum.

1925
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:44,160
Speaker 9: The Nationals give the Saint Louis Cardinals a bad time,

1926
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:47,599
Speaker 9: winning that one fourteen to six. The Yankees, snapping a

1927
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 9: four game losing streak, able to even up their rivalry

1928
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:54,360
Speaker 9: series with the Boston Red Sox fourteen to four, as

1929
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 9: rookie Ben Rice had three home runs and seven RBIs

1930
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:02,479
Speaker 9: for the Bronx. As for the All Star team, the

1931
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:09,280
Speaker 9: complete rosters will be revealed on Sunday. As for soccer,

1932
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 9: Brazil is out of COPAA America after losing to Uruguay

1933
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:16,600
Speaker 9: on penalty kicks. Columbia shuts out Panama five nails, so

1934
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:20,559
Speaker 9: Columbia is still undefeated in its last twenty seven games.

1935
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 9: At the Euro twenty twenty four Championships, England won its

1936
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 9: quarter final penalty kicks against Switzerland, Netherlands eliminate Netherlands eliminates

1937
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 9: Turkey too to one. And at Wimbledon, IGOs Viatik losing

1938
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:38,040
Speaker 9: in three sets. Men's number one player Novak Djokovic did

1939
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:42,599
Speaker 9: advance though to the fourth round. And some tragic news

1940
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 9: Vikings fourth round. A defensive back Kyrie Jackson played at

1941
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 9: Oregon last year, dying in a car accident. He was

1942
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:52,559
Speaker 9: just twenty four years old. Back to Bernie, all.

1943
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 2: Right, thanks Jeff, you it's very tragic news. Great player

1944
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:59,639
Speaker 2: at Oregon. Vikings could have really used him, all right.

1945
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 2: The Boston Celtics, what do you do June twenty first,

1946
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:06,200
Speaker 2: you win a championship and whoa, here we go a

1947
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:11,640
Speaker 2: massive turn of events. The owners stating that quote for

1948
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:16,760
Speaker 2: a state and family planning considerations. The Boston Celtics may

1949
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 2: go off for sale. This comes completely out of left field.

1950
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 2: Nobody saw this coming. When you talk about a such

1951
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 2: an honorable franchise like the Boston Celtics, I mean, this

1952
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 2: is like, well, like, if the Cowboys are being sold,

1953
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 2: they were last sold in nineteen eighty nine, that was

1954
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:44,719
Speaker 2: thirty five years ago. How about the the Yankees being sold.

1955
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:48,840
Speaker 2: They were last sold to George Steinbreann in nineteen seventy three.

1956
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:52,479
Speaker 2: And of course the Lakers Doctor Buss bought them in

1957
01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 2: the summer seventy nine from Jack King Cook. And so

1958
01:43:56,400 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 2: you are talking about iconic franchises like the Lakers, Yankees, Cowboys,

1959
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 2: They're not sold very often. So the Celtics deal certainly well,

1960
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 2: I don't know how we will not set an NBA

1961
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 2: record for a team sale. When you consider the Suns.

1962
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:14,800
Speaker 2: The Phoenix Suns sold last year for four billion. The Celtics,

1963
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:21,120
Speaker 2: I believe, could fetch as much as six billion. And

1964
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:23,960
Speaker 2: you're talking about a market that's got plenty of luster,

1965
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:27,680
Speaker 2: not just because of the recent championship, but they have

1966
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 2: the same kind of aura as the New York teams

1967
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:32,960
Speaker 2: and the LA teams and certainly even the Dallas Cowboys

1968
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 2: The issue here though, is that the transition apparently could

1969
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:40,720
Speaker 2: be a little tricky because although the owner and I

1970
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:42,800
Speaker 2: don't know how to pronounce his name, White Grousbeck, I

1971
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:47,640
Speaker 2: think it's only pronounced his name, he has partners and

1972
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:52,080
Speaker 2: they intend to sell the majority interests. It's not going

1973
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 2: to beat at air tomorrow, could be into twenty twenty

1974
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 2: five they want. But this gross Beeck wants to stay

1975
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 2: on and remain as the Celtic as governor and that

1976
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 2: is the team's kind of key decision maker for at

1977
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:08,520
Speaker 2: least four more years. So that's kind of an elongated

1978
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 2: period for a new owner to come in and not

1979
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 2: be able to call the shots. So the Celtics ownership group,

1980
01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:16,640
Speaker 2: by the way, and you heard me talk about the

1981
01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:20,559
Speaker 2: second Apron a while ago, Well, the Celtics are one

1982
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 2: of those teams.

1983
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:23,559
Speaker 3: That are facing huge luxury tax bills.

1984
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:27,759
Speaker 2: The NBA luxury tax bill that the Celtics will receive,

1985
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,680
Speaker 2: it's about forty million dollars for this past season. And

1986
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 2: I think, come on, you just signed Jason Tatum and

1987
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:36,519
Speaker 2: that Supermax contract is going to pay him three hundred

1988
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:38,719
Speaker 2: and fourteen million over five years, like seventy two million

1989
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:42,880
Speaker 2: in the final year, okay, and then you got Jalen

1990
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 2: Brown in his five year, three hundred and four.

1991
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:46,559
Speaker 3: Million dollars deal.

1992
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:49,639
Speaker 2: He could be set to receive four hundred and eighty

1993
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:52,640
Speaker 2: million between twenty five and twenty nine. So you know,

1994
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 2: the new owners are going to have some big checks

1995
01:45:54,400 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 2: to write. But the good news is that the you

1996
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 2: you get a great arena in the TD Garden that's

1997
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 2: owned by a company called Delaware Delaware North. They're the

1998
01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 2: parent company. The Boston Bruins and the Celtics have only

1999
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 2: a minority interest in the regional sports network.

2000
01:46:12,760 --> 01:46:14,720
Speaker 3: But the you.

2001
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 2: Know, the Celtics, let's put it this way, they're no,

2002
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 2: they do not lack for revenue. But here's the big takeaway.

2003
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 2: This group, to me, has been seen as always a

2004
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:32,599
Speaker 2: very stable and successful group Boston's pro team owners, whether

2005
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 2: it's the Red Sox, whether it's the Celtics, certainly, whether

2006
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:40,240
Speaker 2: it's the Boston Bruins, no major local men's pro team

2007
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 2: has been sold in twenty two years. That's when Grausbeck

2008
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 2: and his partners purchased this Celtics team for three d

2009
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 2: and sixty million dollars and I think they'll fetch six billion.

2010
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:57,679
Speaker 2: That's my guess. I could be wrong. It's a guess, right. Look,

2011
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:02,439
Speaker 2: Boston's in the hell of a sports town. Just in

2012
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:04,600
Speaker 2: what the last twenty years, you got the Pats, the

2013
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:07,799
Speaker 2: Red Sox, the Celtics, the Bruins. They've combined for thirteen

2014
01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 2: titles just this century alone.

2015
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:11,559
Speaker 3: That's big time, right.

2016
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:14,599
Speaker 2: So you've got a multi sport ownership group and they

2017
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:19,080
Speaker 2: also include I think a Premier Soccer League team Liverpool,

2018
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:23,120
Speaker 2: among other golf entities and things of that nature. So

2019
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:27,599
Speaker 2: Grosspeck may be winding down his ownership with the team,

2020
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 2: but I think he still has a lot of equity

2021
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 2: interests and I don't think it's gonna happen anytime soon.

2022
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 2: But when you hear, especially right after they just win

2023
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:38,720
Speaker 2: a championship in a very impressive fashion, after a very

2024
01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:44,080
Speaker 2: impressive regular season, that the Boston Celtics are up for sale,

2025
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 2: well that makes the news.

2026
01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 3: Yes, that makes the news. I'll tell you what el

2027
01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:50,639
Speaker 3: else makes the news.

2028
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:57,599
Speaker 2: You heard recently that former Toronto Raptors center Jontay Porter,

2029
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:02,759
Speaker 2: who's pleading guilty this week, banned for life from the NBA.

2030
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:08,000
Speaker 2: Well things just got worse for Johntay Porter. Coming up

2031
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:10,599
Speaker 2: this week we'll tell you what he's facing next. I'm

2032
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:12,880
Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddlew're Kemedy Lyn from the Las Vegas Fox Sports

2033
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 2: Radio tirect dot com studios. Keep it locked right here.

2034
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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. Hi,

2035
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Speaker 2: right back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio.

2036
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Speaker 2: We are comedy live from the tyrec dot com studios

2037
01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:28,679
Speaker 2: here in a Las Vegas. Coming up in fifteen minutes,

2038
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:31,560
Speaker 2: the Dance Sensation Sweep of the Nation. What kind of

2039
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:33,800
Speaker 2: brand new fool you followed by?

2040
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:34,439
Speaker 3: What my name?

2041
01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:36,599
Speaker 2: I got another doozy. This one comes to us from

2042
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:39,559
Speaker 2: Bangor Maine. I don't know if that we've had that

2043
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 2: part of the country represented. Seem me to have Florida

2044
01:48:43,000 --> 01:48:45,719
Speaker 2: a lot, but don't know that we've had banger Maine.

2045
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 2: This one will of course cause you to raise an eyebrow,

2046
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 2: as they all do. By the way, I want to

2047
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:55,720
Speaker 2: remind everybody shortly after the show tonight, our podcast will

2048
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 2: be going up. Shay will be taking care of that.

2049
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:00,800
Speaker 2: If you missed any of tonight's show, well, be sure

2050
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:04,639
Speaker 2: to check out the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio

2051
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:09,080
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2052
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Speaker 2: rate and review the podcast.

2053
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Speaker 3: Again.

2054
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:15,120
Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts,

2055
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 2: and you'll see the show posted right after we get

2056
01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:21,920
Speaker 2: off the air. All Right, it's been a rough few

2057
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:25,479
Speaker 2: months for John tay Porter. As you recall, John tay

2058
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:28,680
Speaker 2: Porter was part of a little bit of a gambling

2059
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:33,879
Speaker 2: scandal having to do with some prop bets whereby games

2060
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:37,920
Speaker 2: on January twenty sixth and March twentieth. John tay Porter

2061
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:41,040
Speaker 2: exited both of those games early due to what he

2062
01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 2: claimed or health problems, but in both instances he was

2063
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 2: connected allegedly to co conspirators who'd play significant wagers on

2064
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 2: Porter to underperform he's expected stats. So I think one

2065
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:57,320
Speaker 2: had to do with rebounds or something.

2066
01:49:57,320 --> 01:50:00,879
Speaker 3: But the bottom line is, let me say this up pretend,

2067
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 3: and you know what, a prop that is, right, has

2068
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:06,599
Speaker 3: nothing to do with the actual outcome of the game.

2069
01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:11,320
Speaker 3: What it has to do with side aspects side bets

2070
01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:15,519
Speaker 3: during the game. For instance, will you score nine points?

2071
01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:17,320
Speaker 2: Yes or no? If you like the under, you bet

2072
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:21,040
Speaker 2: the under. If he scores less than nine points to cash,

2073
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:23,400
Speaker 2: well you get X amount of rebounds, etcetera. Well, if

2074
01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:26,600
Speaker 2: you exit the game early, then that under is going

2075
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:28,880
Speaker 2: to cash because you weren't on the game long enough.

2076
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 2: And if that's pre planned, or if it's pre arranged

2077
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:34,080
Speaker 2: and it turns out maybe that was being done because

2078
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 2: you have to pay have some gambling debts. That's where

2079
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:41,479
Speaker 2: it gets dicey. You see, now, John Tay Porter is

2080
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:46,000
Speaker 2: going to be facing federal felony charges concerning this betting

2081
01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 2: scandal that saw him ban from the NBA. According to

2082
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:52,120
Speaker 2: the Associated Press, you've not got federal prosecutors in Brooklyn.

2083
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:55,600
Speaker 2: They filed chargers against Porter. He was named as a

2084
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:58,599
Speaker 2: defendive in this case brought by the US Department of Justice.

2085
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:02,320
Speaker 2: This is kind of a big deal. Porter previously was

2086
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 2: unnamed regarding those chargers that were brought against the other

2087
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 2: four co conspirators who allegedly coerced Jontay Porter into manipulating

2088
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:15,479
Speaker 2: his on core performance as part of the gambling scheme.

2089
01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:18,800
Speaker 2: You see where I'm going. We'll bet you score under

2090
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 2: nine points or whatever. We'll bet you get under eight rebounds.

2091
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:22,800
Speaker 2: Just make sure you don't go out and do it.

2092
01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:26,200
Speaker 2: And if you leave the game, well that's good for us.

2093
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:26,800
Speaker 3: We cashed it.

2094
01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 2: It was a fairly significant money involved from what I thought,

2095
01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 2: poor guy's only twenty four.

2096
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:35,640
Speaker 3: Years old, banned from the NBA. He violate a league rules.

2097
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 2: By here's the key. This is what I think they

2098
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 2: worry about more than anything. Information, This closing confidential information

2099
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:46,680
Speaker 2: and sports betters. And then you limit your own participation

2100
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:49,559
Speaker 2: in a couple of those games for betting purposes, and

2101
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:52,040
Speaker 2: then you bet on those NBA games, and you add

2102
01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:55,440
Speaker 2: it all up and it becomes a.

2103
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:55,840
Speaker 3: Very serious situation.

2104
01:51:56,600 --> 01:52:01,920
Speaker 2: So it's been reported that Porter is being investigated by

2105
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:03,520
Speaker 2: the Ontario Provincial.

2106
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 3: Police for his involvement in this game.

2107
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:08,600
Speaker 2: He's a sixth seven if you may or may not

2108
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 2: recall him, he's six ' eleven, played for Toronto, only

2109
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:15,799
Speaker 2: appeared in twenty six games this past season for the Raptors.

2110
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:20,400
Speaker 2: But obviously, as like office base, not gonna be working

2111
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:23,840
Speaker 2: here anymore. Right, this is a serious situation, and it

2112
01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 2: wasn't just him. Four other men were charged with wirefraud

2113
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,599
Speaker 2: by US authorities in New York in connection with those

2114
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 2: prop bets placed back in January and back in marsh

2115
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:36,439
Speaker 2: One of the games was against Sacramento and I think

2116
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:40,559
Speaker 2: the other was against the Clippers. And this investigation has

2117
01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 2: been going on a while because as recent as June,

2118
01:52:43,479 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 2: there were no charges against Porter that were announced, but

2119
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 2: now that has changed, but he's been banned Adam Silver.

2120
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 2: Commissioner Adam Silver banned John Tey Porter for life from

2121
01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:57,960
Speaker 2: the league on April seventeenth after they found out that

2122
01:52:58,040 --> 01:53:03,040
Speaker 2: he had again given personal health information to known betters.

2123
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:06,679
Speaker 2: Those betters and took that information bet on the games.

2124
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:10,479
Speaker 2: He limited his participation, played three minutes against the Kings

2125
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:13,160
Speaker 2: before taking him out of this, taking himself out of

2126
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:18,759
Speaker 2: the game citing illness. And this coincides with multiple sports

2127
01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 2: books that reported well, and we talked about this last

2128
01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:26,559
Speaker 2: night with Dave Sherpan. The checks and balances we have

2129
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:30,520
Speaker 2: in place now are pretty good. So I don't necessarily

2130
01:53:30,600 --> 01:53:32,960
Speaker 2: look at this as a negative from the standpoint of

2131
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:35,599
Speaker 2: the fact that we have these major scandals, which that's

2132
01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 2: not good. But what this does show is that the

2133
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 2: system is working because multiple sports books or you know,

2134
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 2: the security aspect of these systems are working.

2135
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 3: Because there were.

2136
01:53:45,560 --> 01:53:49,880
Speaker 2: Multiple sports books that reported receiving unusual betting interest on

2137
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:53,240
Speaker 2: the under on Porters points, rebounds, and three pointers and

2138
01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:57,360
Speaker 2: assists in those two games in question. One of the

2139
01:53:57,360 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 2: bets involved in eighty thousand dollars parlay that would have

2140
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:02,599
Speaker 2: paid one point one million. Now, I got to say,

2141
01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 2: this is one of those situations, and I don't believe

2142
01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:07,040
Speaker 2: that was placed in Vegas. The best of my knowledge,

2143
01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:10,639
Speaker 2: it was back East. I don't think there's any way

2144
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 2: that bet.

2145
01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:13,519
Speaker 3: Would be approved here in Las Vegas. You look at it,

2146
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:16,839
Speaker 3: it smelts fishy, it looks fishy, and it was fishy.

2147
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:21,960
Speaker 3: So look, all it does is create a stain.

2148
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:26,240
Speaker 2: But I will say this, I do believe we have

2149
01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:31,719
Speaker 2: a very good set of checks and balances. So when

2150
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:34,360
Speaker 2: you go to a sporting event, it's certainly an NFL game,

2151
01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:37,360
Speaker 2: when you go to a sporting event when you have

2152
01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 2: a situation where you are wondering if the outcome of

2153
01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:47,840
Speaker 2: the game is the has the integrity been compromised. No,

2154
01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:50,360
Speaker 2: I don't believe that at all. We joke about that

2155
01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:51,640
Speaker 2: every now and then you'll hear a guy in the

2156
01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:51,960
Speaker 2: back of.

2157
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 3: A sports book and you know a call will go

2158
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:59,200
Speaker 3: against him for some reason, and all of a sudden,

2159
01:54:59,200 --> 01:55:00,680
Speaker 3: you hear somebody saying.

2160
01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:01,879
Speaker 1: This game's fixed.

2161
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:05,480
Speaker 3: Right now, that's not happening. That's not happening.

2162
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:08,800
Speaker 2: But what we do have our guard wheels. Now that

2163
01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 2: didn't exist before. We remember ten years ago, you didn't

2164
01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 2: have a lot of app betting because it really didn't exist.

2165
01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:20,000
Speaker 2: You know, it was common to see guys walk to

2166
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:22,480
Speaker 2: the counter, see it myself, and open up a satchel

2167
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:25,080
Speaker 2: at lay fifty thousand bucks on the counter in cash.

2168
01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 2: Bet'sn't really prosecuted that way anymore. Most a lot of

2169
01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 2: certainly professional betters, they open up accounts and they open

2170
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 2: up you know, you have to show your ID and

2171
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 2: give your solid security number and if you deposit moneies

2172
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:39,240
Speaker 2: and things of that nature.

2173
01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:43,680
Speaker 3: But it's done electronically a lot now, which.

2174
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:46,760
Speaker 2: Has led to something also known as bearding, which means

2175
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 2: that a lot of players are opening up accounts under

2176
01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:53,440
Speaker 2: someone else's name. But eventually, when you consider and there

2177
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 2: are a lot of very reputable companies, will not a

2178
01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:59,840
Speaker 2: lot but take us integrity run by my buddy Matt Holt.

2179
01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:02,800
Speaker 2: They've got contracts with the major sports leagues, they got

2180
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:07,480
Speaker 2: contracts with the major college conferences, and anytime there's anything

2181
01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 2: that remotely looks unusual, it sets in motion a series

2182
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 2: of events and the authorities are contacted. It was about

2183
01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:17,560
Speaker 2: a year ago now they had that situation up in

2184
01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:20,880
Speaker 2: Cincinnati where someone was making unusual of bets I think

2185
01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:24,520
Speaker 2: on the Alabama baseball team and they ended up tracing

2186
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:27,360
Speaker 2: that all the way back to the coach. So tough

2187
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:30,880
Speaker 2: deal for Jontay Porter. He loses his livelihood. Now he

2188
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:35,120
Speaker 2: may lose his freedom as he's being charged with felony counts.

2189
01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 2: Something to continue to watch. Not the first time, probably

2190
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 2: won't be the last time. But the world is not

2191
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:43,040
Speaker 2: coming to an end. And by the way, the NFL

2192
01:56:43,280 --> 01:56:45,920
Speaker 2: right around the corner coming up. What kind of brand

2193
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:48,080
Speaker 2: new fool of you? And what my name? Keep it

2194
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Speaker 2: locked right here? You are listening to the Bernie Frattle

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Speaker 2: Will we've come to that juncture in the show. Every

2205
01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:30,040
Speaker 2: Sunday morning, two am Pacific five am Eastern. You see,

2206
01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:33,000
Speaker 2: we try to observe a lot here. On the Bernie

2207
01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:35,760
Speaker 2: Frider Show, Jogibert once said, you can observe a lot

2208
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:40,280
Speaker 2: by watching, and that's exactly what we do. Because across

2209
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:42,920
Speaker 2: this great land of ours, and even around the world.

2210
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:44,360
Speaker 3: Will people just do things.

2211
01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:48,520
Speaker 2: They engage in activities that oftentimes are well, sometimes they're

2212
01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:52,240
Speaker 2: silly and innocuous. Other times they're more dangerous, other times

2213
01:57:52,240 --> 01:57:55,320
Speaker 2: they're illegal. They can land you in jail. But any

2214
01:57:55,320 --> 01:57:58,400
Speaker 2: way you slice it, any way, you size it up,

2215
01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:01,440
Speaker 2: any way, you characterize it, anyway you describe it. All

2216
01:58:01,480 --> 01:58:04,080
Speaker 2: of these events, all of these behaviors that people engage in,

2217
01:58:04,680 --> 01:58:08,640
Speaker 2: they always leave us scratching our head and asking ourselves,

2218
01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:09,720
Speaker 2: what kind.

2219
01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:15,600
Speaker 3: Of brand new fool are you?

2220
01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:19,440
Speaker 1: So, what kind of brand new fool are you?

2221
01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:24,560
Speaker 2: Well, we take you to Banger Main and we introduce

2222
01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:27,080
Speaker 2: you to a forty one year old gentleman by the

2223
01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:31,720
Speaker 2: name of Kevin Gray who ordered a ride share to

2224
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:36,560
Speaker 2: a local TJ Max. Well, nothing to see there except

2225
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:39,360
Speaker 2: he blapped the driver about how he was going to

2226
01:58:40,240 --> 01:58:48,600
Speaker 2: rob the place. Yeah yeah, So the driver dropped him

2227
01:58:48,640 --> 01:58:53,720
Speaker 2: off and then he reported the passenger to the authorities. Well,

2228
01:58:54,040 --> 01:58:57,400
Speaker 2: the authorities ended up arriving fairly quickly.

2229
01:58:58,320 --> 01:58:59,560
Speaker 3: Mister Gray had hit the road.

2230
01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:02,840
Speaker 2: However, he was on a theft charge as well as

2231
01:59:02,920 --> 01:59:07,800
Speaker 2: drug possession, warrants, violations, conditions and release, all kinds of things.

2232
01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:09,840
Speaker 2: This guy had a hell of a body of work.

2233
01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:14,280
Speaker 2: But officers spotted Gray as he tried to bolt from

2234
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:16,040
Speaker 2: the store and he was arrested after.

2235
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:20,080
Speaker 3: Eight pre footchase. Police also said mister Gray had seven

2236
01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:25,320
Speaker 3: sets of pre conditioned pre conviction bill conditions that banned

2237
01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:27,600
Speaker 3: him from going to these businesses.

2238
01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:29,800
Speaker 2: He was not allowed to go to these businesses in

2239
01:59:29,840 --> 01:59:33,320
Speaker 2: the first place. So you get a ride share to

2240
01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:36,680
Speaker 2: a store in this case it was Tjmax. He's banned

2241
01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:41,040
Speaker 2: from these businesses. He has all kinds of warrants, drug possessions,

2242
01:59:41,320 --> 01:59:46,560
Speaker 2: violations of other matters. Why Because this was the twelfth

2243
01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:51,040
Speaker 2: time that Kevin Gray was arrested this year, and he's

2244
01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:54,080
Speaker 2: banned from going to multiple stores in the banger Main area,

2245
01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:58,480
Speaker 2: which leads us again to ask the question, mister Kevin

2246
01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:01,240
Speaker 2: Gray a Banger Main what kind of brand new fool

2247
02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:03,800
Speaker 2: are you?

2248
02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:05,160
Speaker 3: All right? Mister chef?

2249
02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:06,040
Speaker 1: What do you got for us?

2250
02:00:06,080 --> 02:00:06,400
Speaker 6: All right?

2251
02:00:06,440 --> 02:00:10,000
Speaker 9: So we go north of the border where the Royal

2252
02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:14,560
Speaker 9: Canadian Mounted Police are looking for an arsonist. Now, this

2253
02:00:14,640 --> 02:00:17,640
Speaker 9: man looked like he appeared to try to set a

2254
02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:21,520
Speaker 9: building on fire, but unfortunately for him, he also set

2255
02:00:21,600 --> 02:00:25,600
Speaker 9: himself on fire. So the video shows him around with

2256
02:00:25,720 --> 02:00:27,560
Speaker 9: his pants on fire. So I don't know what lie

2257
02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:29,960
Speaker 9: he told right before this, because his pants were on fire,

2258
02:00:30,320 --> 02:00:34,480
Speaker 9: and during the entire video, his accomplice is trying to

2259
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:37,280
Speaker 9: help him get out as he's rolling around on the ground,

2260
02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:39,760
Speaker 9: and the video goes on for a good thirty seconds

2261
02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:42,320
Speaker 9: to a minute, and when the video cuts out, his

2262
02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:45,880
Speaker 9: pants are still on fire. So let's just say that

2263
02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:49,160
Speaker 9: backfired to say the nicely done.

2264
02:00:49,000 --> 02:00:51,800
Speaker 3: Little wordplay for the chef. Nicely done.

2265
02:00:52,200 --> 02:00:59,240
Speaker 9: Good Unidentified man Unidentified arsonists in Richmond, British Columbia identified

2266
02:00:59,560 --> 02:01:00,640
Speaker 9: what kind of ran new fooler?

2267
02:01:00,680 --> 02:01:00,760
Speaker 1: You?

2268
02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:02,960
Speaker 3: Is he a liar too? I'm just curious you don't.

2269
02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:04,720
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I want to know. What did he say?

2270
02:01:05,080 --> 02:01:06,880
Speaker 3: Well, because I did, he'd be liar.

2271
02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:09,240
Speaker 1: Pants on there, That's why I'm gonna live there.

2272
02:01:09,320 --> 02:01:11,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, look at this man. We're just killing it today.

2273
02:01:11,600 --> 02:01:12,200
Speaker 1: We're on fire.

2274
02:01:15,160 --> 02:01:17,280
Speaker 2: I heard later in the night he tried to blow

2275
02:01:17,320 --> 02:01:19,920
Speaker 2: up a school bush here or what happened? What he

2276
02:01:20,240 --> 02:01:23,400
Speaker 2: burned his lips on a tailpipe? Never mind? Two show

2277
02:01:23,440 --> 02:01:26,640
Speaker 2: Saturday folks. All right, Shay, you're up, my man. You're

2278
02:01:26,680 --> 02:01:27,720
Speaker 2: a veteran at this game.

2279
02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:29,400
Speaker 7: I really don't know how I'm gonna follow up that

2280
02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:32,920
Speaker 7: wordplay because that was just that was amazing, guys.

2281
02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:33,920
Speaker 3: But all good.

2282
02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:37,920
Speaker 7: We're gonna be going to Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania.

2283
02:01:38,240 --> 02:01:40,880
Speaker 6: Oh Stroudsburg, I I haven't heard of it. You've been there?

2284
02:01:41,160 --> 02:01:43,440
Speaker 2: Well, I played ball with a guy who had gone

2285
02:01:43,480 --> 02:01:46,640
Speaker 2: to East Stroudsburg State Rocky continue on.

2286
02:01:46,720 --> 02:01:48,200
Speaker 6: A small world. Well anyway.

2287
02:01:48,320 --> 02:01:51,080
Speaker 7: Police in the Poconos say a man stole a handgum

2288
02:01:51,080 --> 02:01:54,160
Speaker 7: from a shooting range on Thursday. Police were sent to

2289
02:01:54,200 --> 02:01:58,880
Speaker 7: Pocono Pistol in Stroudsburg around twelve thirty pm Thursday for

2290
02:01:58,920 --> 02:02:01,640
Speaker 7: a report of that of a firearm. According to a

2291
02:02:01,720 --> 02:02:05,760
Speaker 7: news release from the stroud Area Regional Police Department, police

2292
02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:08,160
Speaker 7: say a man came into Pokono Pistol and rented a

2293
02:02:08,240 --> 02:02:11,560
Speaker 7: glockhand gun. When the man finished using the indoor shooting range,

2294
02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:14,440
Speaker 7: he avoided employees and left the store with the firearm.

2295
02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:15,960
Speaker 6: But get this, Bernie.

2296
02:02:16,840 --> 02:02:20,840
Speaker 7: Officers were able to identify the man pretty quickly by

2297
02:02:21,680 --> 02:02:25,360
Speaker 7: being thirty four year old Lawrence J. Handelvick had to

2298
02:02:25,400 --> 02:02:28,760
Speaker 7: give his ID card to the place to even get

2299
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:34,360
Speaker 7: that handgun, so he basically left his ID at the

2300
02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:38,880
Speaker 7: shooting range. And police say that on top of that,

2301
02:02:39,000 --> 02:02:42,320
Speaker 7: he already has an arrest warrant and there was no

2302
02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:45,080
Speaker 7: info on whether he was caught yet or not. But

2303
02:02:45,240 --> 02:02:49,800
Speaker 7: that does lead me to say, mister Handelvich, what kind

2304
02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:50,360
Speaker 7: of fool are you?

2305
02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:51,280
Speaker 3: Wow?

2306
02:02:51,320 --> 02:02:53,760
Speaker 2: A lot of layers there, and of course another one

2307
02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:56,680
Speaker 2: of our suspects who has not just one crime but

2308
02:02:56,720 --> 02:02:58,960
Speaker 2: a multiple body work. I'm glad you didn't say the

2309
02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:01,560
Speaker 2: name Rocky because the only guy I knew from Eastrosburg,

2310
02:03:01,840 --> 02:03:02,680
Speaker 2: his name is Rocky.

2311
02:03:02,760 --> 02:03:04,360
Speaker 3: Like you said, it is a small world.

2312
02:03:04,360 --> 02:03:06,840
Speaker 6: Right, Happy? Yeah, happy, it's not Rocky Happy.

2313
02:03:06,840 --> 02:03:07,400
Speaker 3: He's not Rocky.

2314
02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:09,160
Speaker 2: I played ball with him back in the day. And

2315
02:03:09,680 --> 02:03:12,240
Speaker 2: of course it is a small world. But I wouldn't

2316
02:03:12,280 --> 02:03:15,480
Speaker 2: want to have to paint it, all right. I was

2317
02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:17,520
Speaker 2: begging for a laugh track there, all.

2318
02:03:17,480 --> 02:03:21,560
Speaker 3: Right, Good job guys, East Strosburg, Pennsylvania, north of the

2319
02:03:21,600 --> 02:03:25,640
Speaker 3: border Canada, pants on fire and bangor Maine.

2320
02:03:25,480 --> 02:03:26,000
Speaker 6: No Florida.

2321
02:03:26,200 --> 02:03:26,280
Speaker 3: No.

2322
02:03:26,680 --> 02:03:29,839
Speaker 2: I was just thinking, that's what happened Florida.

2323
02:03:29,920 --> 02:03:32,960
Speaker 3: It took a week off, right, it was a holiday.

2324
02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:34,760
Speaker 6: No sports are going on.

2325
02:03:36,360 --> 02:03:40,280
Speaker 2: Another rousing edition of what kind of brand new food

2326
02:03:40,280 --> 02:03:42,600
Speaker 2: a you, which now allows us to segue you do,

2327
02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:45,839
Speaker 2: our second favorite bit that we lovingly refer to as

2328
02:03:46,280 --> 02:03:47,000
Speaker 2: what my name?

2329
02:03:51,600 --> 02:03:52,000
Speaker 3: We go?

2330
02:03:53,480 --> 02:03:57,080
Speaker 2: At nineteen years old, I am the youngest winner of

2331
02:03:57,120 --> 02:04:01,640
Speaker 2: the Heisman Trophy in history. Shane Mogngar, What my name?

2332
02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:04,360
Speaker 3: Hmmm?

2333
02:04:07,640 --> 02:04:09,000
Speaker 6: Oh wait, I know this, Lamar Jackson.

2334
02:04:09,280 --> 02:04:12,360
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson knew that. I knew that.

2335
02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:14,160
Speaker 6: I thought I wasn't gonna know that.

2336
02:04:15,600 --> 02:04:18,880
Speaker 3: But you did know it? All right, Off and running, guys.

2337
02:04:20,360 --> 02:04:23,520
Speaker 2: I recently became the first rookie player in the w

2338
02:04:23,760 --> 02:04:27,080
Speaker 2: NBA history with ten straight double doubles.

2339
02:04:27,080 --> 02:04:28,040
Speaker 3: Mark Ramsey, What my.

2340
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:34,200
Speaker 6: Name is not Caitlin Clark?

2341
02:04:34,320 --> 02:04:35,040
Speaker 3: Is it?

2342
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:38,520
Speaker 2: It is not Caitlin Clark, but I appreciate the effort.

2343
02:04:38,560 --> 02:04:42,320
Speaker 2: Good guess I'm the first rookie player in w NBA

2344
02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:46,240
Speaker 2: history with ten straight double doubles.

2345
02:04:45,440 --> 02:04:47,880
Speaker 3: Uh, Kevin Wyren't to chef? What my name?

2346
02:04:48,280 --> 02:04:48,960
Speaker 1: Angel Rees?

2347
02:04:49,360 --> 02:04:51,520
Speaker 3: It is? Of course Angel Rees. It's now up to

2348
02:04:51,640 --> 02:04:55,360
Speaker 3: twelve double doubles, So it's true.

2349
02:04:55,400 --> 02:05:00,200
Speaker 2: Man having a really good rookie season. All right to

2350
02:05:00,240 --> 02:05:05,640
Speaker 2: this stay my jersey is the number one seller for

2351
02:05:05,720 --> 02:05:08,880
Speaker 2: the Double A Birmingham Barons baseball team.

2352
02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:10,760
Speaker 3: Shaye Mogengart, What my name.

2353
02:05:11,480 --> 02:05:14,960
Speaker 7: For the Double A Birmingham? Oh my god, they're the

2354
02:05:15,080 --> 02:05:17,800
Speaker 7: number one seller. You know, I'm trying to think of

2355
02:05:17,880 --> 02:05:20,800
Speaker 7: players that played on the Birmingham and.

2356
02:05:20,720 --> 02:05:22,480
Speaker 6: None of them are coming to my head. keV help

2357
02:05:22,480 --> 02:05:23,120
Speaker 6: me out here, man.

2358
02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:27,320
Speaker 9: I don't think he's known for baseball as his career choice.

2359
02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:29,640
Speaker 9: That's just gonna be my hint on this one.

2360
02:05:29,960 --> 02:05:31,240
Speaker 3: That is a hell of a good hint.

2361
02:05:31,880 --> 02:05:37,120
Speaker 1: His baseball is not his career, not his first career choice.

2362
02:05:37,120 --> 02:05:39,880
Speaker 9: I should say he was well, he was way more

2363
02:05:39,960 --> 02:05:43,080
Speaker 9: famous for doing something other than baseball.

2364
02:05:43,960 --> 02:05:45,880
Speaker 7: Oh my god, I'm being dumb right now. Are we

2365
02:05:45,880 --> 02:05:47,920
Speaker 7: talking about bo Did he play?

2366
02:05:48,080 --> 02:05:51,160
Speaker 2: You're on the right track both? Yeah, Yeah, you're on

2367
02:05:51,200 --> 02:05:51,800
Speaker 2: the right track.

2368
02:05:51,880 --> 02:05:53,920
Speaker 9: I saw I saw him were of the jersey in

2369
02:05:53,960 --> 02:05:57,400
Speaker 9: the movie. And that's the reason I probably know this well.

2370
02:05:57,400 --> 02:06:00,800
Speaker 3: I remember this story really well. All right, let's let's see.

2371
02:06:00,600 --> 02:06:02,800
Speaker 2: If the save Mark Rams can get it. To this day,

2372
02:06:03,600 --> 02:06:06,920
Speaker 2: my jersey is still the number one seller of the

2373
02:06:07,000 --> 02:06:10,640
Speaker 2: Double A Birmingham Barons Minor League baseball team, Mark.

2374
02:06:10,520 --> 02:06:13,640
Speaker 1: Ramsey, What my name is that Willie Mays?

2375
02:06:13,720 --> 02:06:16,160
Speaker 3: Is it not Willie Mays? Not Willie Mays.

2376
02:06:16,360 --> 02:06:18,360
Speaker 2: You know, let's see that's not a horrible guest because

2377
02:06:18,800 --> 02:06:24,280
Speaker 2: Willie Mays was from Birmingham, Alabama. All right, Uh, the chef,

2378
02:06:24,280 --> 02:06:26,120
Speaker 2: I gotta believe you're probably gonna spill the beans on

2379
02:06:26,160 --> 02:06:26,400
Speaker 2: this one.

2380
02:06:26,440 --> 02:06:31,160
Speaker 9: You know, this one I'm lighting up the mj Bernie

2381
02:06:30,360 --> 02:06:32,480
Speaker 9: is in fact Michael George.

2382
02:06:33,280 --> 02:06:35,640
Speaker 2: And by the way, you guys would really enjoy you

2383
02:06:35,680 --> 02:06:37,360
Speaker 2: guys enjoyed those thirty for thirties.

2384
02:06:37,960 --> 02:06:41,000
Speaker 3: Yes, they're extremely well done.

2385
02:06:41,640 --> 02:06:44,560
Speaker 2: Well, this one's been out, you know, ten twelve years

2386
02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:49,200
Speaker 2: because Jordan played minor league baseball Berningham in nineteen ninety four.

2387
02:06:49,240 --> 02:06:50,880
Speaker 2: If Michael Jorge's the right answer, go ahead, Yeah, I

2388
02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:57,600
Speaker 2: give you for flowers. It was during the nineteen ninety

2389
02:06:57,600 --> 02:07:02,360
Speaker 2: four season. His manager was Terry Francona, who three years

2390
02:07:02,440 --> 02:07:04,440
Speaker 2: later was the first base coach of the Detroit Tigers.

2391
02:07:04,480 --> 02:07:08,440
Speaker 2: Terry's a great guy, talked to him many times. The

2392
02:07:08,480 --> 02:07:10,880
Speaker 2: thirty four to thirty is called Jordan Rides the Bus.

2393
02:07:10,960 --> 02:07:13,240
Speaker 3: It's it's excellent, it's.

2394
02:07:13,000 --> 02:07:15,720
Speaker 2: Very entertaining, and I remember watching it when it was

2395
02:07:15,760 --> 02:07:18,919
Speaker 2: going on and keeping track of it, and we actually

2396
02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:22,800
Speaker 2: had when I was in Michigan the announcer, the play

2397
02:07:22,840 --> 02:07:26,280
Speaker 2: by play guy that called Jordan's first ever minor league

2398
02:07:26,320 --> 02:07:27,480
Speaker 2: home run the play by play.

2399
02:07:27,480 --> 02:07:29,720
Speaker 3: We had him on a couple of years later. So

2400
02:07:30,640 --> 02:07:31,240
Speaker 3: it's been.

2401
02:07:31,160 --> 02:07:33,000
Speaker 2: Thirty years, but I got to tell you his story

2402
02:07:33,040 --> 02:07:36,400
Speaker 2: still holds up, and so does so does the jersey sales.

2403
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:38,680
Speaker 1: All right, remember watch seeing the jersey in space Jam.

2404
02:07:38,720 --> 02:07:41,560
Speaker 3: That's how I is that, right, Yeah, space Jam, Thanks

2405
02:07:41,600 --> 02:07:43,640
Speaker 3: for the heads up on that. Yeah, I didn't see

2406
02:07:43,640 --> 02:07:45,440
Speaker 3: any of the space Jams, but it was in that

2407
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:47,200
Speaker 3: When you're did space Jam come up?

2408
02:07:47,240 --> 02:07:48,840
Speaker 1: It was like ninety or ninety six?

2409
02:07:48,880 --> 02:07:50,000
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, very good.

2410
02:07:50,080 --> 02:07:52,680
Speaker 9: It was I think right after he came back. It

2411
02:07:52,720 --> 02:07:54,840
Speaker 9: was supposed to be a funny way of explaining why

2412
02:07:54,880 --> 02:07:58,480
Speaker 9: he came back to basketball is that after playing baseball, and.

2413
02:07:58,440 --> 02:08:00,800
Speaker 2: Of course Jordan came back just in time for the

2414
02:08:00,840 --> 02:08:04,160
Speaker 2: ninety five playoffs. He was rusty, but right after that

2415
02:08:04,240 --> 02:08:05,280
Speaker 2: they three peed it again.

2416
02:08:05,640 --> 02:08:10,120
Speaker 3: So there is that. All right. We have a Major

2417
02:08:10,200 --> 02:08:11,240
Speaker 3: League Baseball All.

2418
02:08:11,040 --> 02:08:15,120
Speaker 2: Star Game coming up a week from this Tuesday. Oh no,

2419
02:08:15,120 --> 02:08:18,360
Speaker 2: wait a minute, it is it is this Tuesday.

2420
02:08:18,440 --> 02:08:20,280
Speaker 1: No it's the sixteenth.

2421
02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:22,480
Speaker 3: I apologize, thank you. I'm all mixed up. I'm doing

2422
02:08:22,480 --> 02:08:24,080
Speaker 3: two Mallord shows next week and I know it was

2423
02:08:24,120 --> 02:08:26,080
Speaker 3: heading into the All Star Game, and I mixed up

2424
02:08:26,120 --> 02:08:27,040
Speaker 3: my metaphors. Thanks chef.

2425
02:08:27,080 --> 02:08:29,200
Speaker 2: All right, so we do have an All Star Game

2426
02:08:29,240 --> 02:08:30,360
Speaker 2: right around a corner coming up.

2427
02:08:30,400 --> 02:08:33,560
Speaker 3: Be it as it may. I on the only.

2428
02:08:34,560 --> 02:08:38,040
Speaker 2: Baseball player in history to hit a Grand Slam during

2429
02:08:38,080 --> 02:08:39,800
Speaker 2: the Major League Baseball All Star Game.

2430
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:41,920
Speaker 3: The chef Kevin Wire?

2431
02:08:41,960 --> 02:08:43,960
Speaker 1: What name I saw? And I can't remember his name?

2432
02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:46,120
Speaker 9: He played for the Angels, because I saw the highlight

2433
02:08:46,240 --> 02:08:50,840
Speaker 9: video somewhere in the background with it on nute Somewhere.

2434
02:08:51,080 --> 02:08:51,960
Speaker 3: There's another hint.

2435
02:08:52,080 --> 02:08:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the only Major League baseball player in history

2436
02:08:55,640 --> 02:08:58,480
Speaker 2: to hit a home run during the Major League Baseball

2437
02:08:58,520 --> 02:08:59,400
Speaker 2: All Star Game.

2438
02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:01,560
Speaker 3: Shane Mogngar, what my name.

2439
02:09:04,480 --> 02:09:04,560
Speaker 8: Is?

2440
02:09:04,600 --> 02:09:05,760
Speaker 6: This was I alive?

2441
02:09:06,800 --> 02:09:06,880
Speaker 10: Well?

2442
02:09:06,920 --> 02:09:08,600
Speaker 2: Think it was like the early eighties if I recall

2443
02:09:09,200 --> 02:09:19,400
Speaker 2: nineteen Okay, okay, hmmm, all right, no problem. I'm the

2444
02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:21,800
Speaker 2: only Major League Baseball player to hit a Grand Slam

2445
02:09:21,880 --> 02:09:23,200
Speaker 2: during the All Star Game.

2446
02:09:23,280 --> 02:09:25,920
Speaker 3: Mark Ramsey, what my name is it?

2447
02:09:26,040 --> 02:09:26,720
Speaker 1: Larry Doby?

2448
02:09:27,480 --> 02:09:30,720
Speaker 3: I love it because the last week nicely done. It's

2449
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:34,880
Speaker 3: not it's it's Freddy Lynn, fred Linn of the Angels.

2450
02:09:34,880 --> 02:09:35,160
Speaker 3: You're right.

2451
02:09:35,200 --> 02:09:38,920
Speaker 2: They loaded the bases against that Lee Amicker and the

2452
02:09:39,000 --> 02:09:41,280
Speaker 2: American League All Stars. I think we're on a losing

2453
02:09:41,320 --> 02:09:42,160
Speaker 2: streak and they were pissed.

2454
02:09:42,160 --> 02:09:42,680
Speaker 3: They wanted to win.

2455
02:09:42,680 --> 02:09:46,600
Speaker 2: That game was played in Comiskey Park in your hometown, Mark,

2456
02:09:46,920 --> 02:09:49,000
Speaker 2: and he hit it off of Attley Hammocker, the old

2457
02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:53,760
Speaker 2: left handed for the San Francisco Giants, and that led

2458
02:09:53,800 --> 02:09:55,400
Speaker 2: to like, I mean, they were up nine to three

2459
02:09:55,440 --> 02:09:56,840
Speaker 2: by the end of the thirties something like that in

2460
02:09:56,840 --> 02:09:57,960
Speaker 2: the America League in up propping.

2461
02:09:58,200 --> 02:10:00,400
Speaker 3: But Freddy Lynn is the answer. All right?

2462
02:10:01,400 --> 02:10:06,879
Speaker 2: We uh just had the NBA Draft. Brownie Jans was drafted.

2463
02:10:07,640 --> 02:10:12,640
Speaker 2: But guess what, I am the only undrafted NBA player

2464
02:10:12,640 --> 02:10:15,200
Speaker 2: in history to actually make it to the Hall of Fame,

2465
02:10:15,280 --> 02:10:16,480
Speaker 2: the Basketball Hall of Fame.

2466
02:10:17,320 --> 02:10:19,160
Speaker 3: Uh, Kevin Wyre at the chef what my name?

2467
02:10:19,640 --> 02:10:20,840
Speaker 1: Who's undrafted?

2468
02:10:21,880 --> 02:10:23,520
Speaker 3: There's been a lot of very good to.

2469
02:10:25,400 --> 02:10:26,200
Speaker 1: Guess this one?

2470
02:10:26,800 --> 02:10:27,560
Speaker 3: All Right's all right?

2471
02:10:27,640 --> 02:10:30,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'll tell you that guys like Fred Van Vliet,

2472
02:10:30,720 --> 02:10:33,040
Speaker 2: John Starks, Connie Hawkins, so as they called her on.

2473
02:10:33,120 --> 02:10:35,960
Speaker 2: There's a ton of been a ton of very good

2474
02:10:36,040 --> 02:10:39,240
Speaker 2: undrafted NBA players who went on to have a pretty good.

2475
02:10:39,400 --> 02:10:40,160
Speaker 3: Pretty good career.

2476
02:10:40,560 --> 02:10:43,360
Speaker 2: All right, I'm the only undrafted NBA player to make

2477
02:10:43,400 --> 02:10:44,640
Speaker 2: it to the Hall of Fame.

2478
02:10:45,920 --> 02:10:47,280
Speaker 3: Shaye Mognger. What my name?

2479
02:10:48,760 --> 02:10:51,440
Speaker 6: John is? John? Is it John Starks?

2480
02:10:51,440 --> 02:10:55,040
Speaker 2: Not John Starks? Although John Starks was undrafted, Yeah, was undrafted.

2481
02:10:55,040 --> 02:10:56,520
Speaker 2: Had a pretty good career with the Knicks. I thought

2482
02:10:56,840 --> 02:10:58,600
Speaker 2: had that one rough outing where he missed a bunch

2483
02:10:58,600 --> 02:11:01,160
Speaker 2: of threes. But you know, Mama said there'd be daves

2484
02:11:01,200 --> 02:11:05,480
Speaker 2: like this. All right, I'm the only, uh to this day,

2485
02:11:05,680 --> 02:11:09,200
Speaker 2: the only undrafted NBA player to ever make it to

2486
02:11:09,240 --> 02:11:09,880
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame.

2487
02:11:10,680 --> 02:11:11,880
Speaker 3: Mark Ramsey. What my name?

2488
02:11:13,520 --> 02:11:15,680
Speaker 6: I'm guessing tiny Archibal.

2489
02:11:16,360 --> 02:11:18,160
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good guess because I like the name.

2490
02:11:18,200 --> 02:11:20,640
Speaker 2: Once again, a classic name coming out of the past.

2491
02:11:21,240 --> 02:11:25,520
Speaker 2: Is actually Fear the fro Ben Wallace two thousand and

2492
02:11:25,560 --> 02:11:27,120
Speaker 2: four Pistons team that I covered.

2493
02:11:26,840 --> 02:11:27,680
Speaker 3: That beat the Lakers.

2494
02:11:27,720 --> 02:11:28,520
Speaker 6: He was undrafted.

2495
02:11:29,040 --> 02:11:34,200
Speaker 3: He was undrafted Piston's player, right, Pistons guys. He was terrific, terrific.

2496
02:11:34,280 --> 02:11:37,120
Speaker 3: Good dude too. I liked him a lot. All right, we're.

2497
02:11:36,960 --> 02:11:40,440
Speaker 2: Getting ready to start college football, guys. There is currently

2498
02:11:40,720 --> 02:11:46,080
Speaker 2: only three active college football coaches that won a national championship.

2499
02:11:46,520 --> 02:11:50,440
Speaker 3: But I'm the last one to do it. Uh, the

2500
02:11:50,600 --> 02:11:52,040
Speaker 3: chef Kevin Wirret what my name?

2501
02:11:53,320 --> 02:11:58,080
Speaker 9: Last active college football coach to win a national championship?

2502
02:11:58,400 --> 02:12:01,160
Speaker 3: Exactly right? Well said, so.

2503
02:12:01,240 --> 02:12:03,080
Speaker 1: Was Michigan this year? Who won it the year before?

2504
02:12:05,080 --> 02:12:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna damn it. It's blanking on me. It's not.

2505
02:12:10,840 --> 02:12:14,880
Speaker 2: It's not Dablosweeney, but but your deductive reasoning was serving

2506
02:12:14,920 --> 02:12:17,800
Speaker 2: you well for a while there. All right, there are

2507
02:12:17,800 --> 02:12:20,440
Speaker 2: only one they're checking out. There are only three remaining

2508
02:12:21,120 --> 02:12:24,680
Speaker 2: active college football coaches who won a national championship.

2509
02:12:24,800 --> 02:12:26,520
Speaker 3: But I'm the last one to do it. Shaan Ogangar

2510
02:12:26,560 --> 02:12:27,120
Speaker 3: what my name?

2511
02:12:29,200 --> 02:12:34,720
Speaker 7: Okay, so I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna Sabin and

2512
02:12:34,760 --> 02:12:38,680
Speaker 7: then urban Meyer, I stay, he's the NFL.

2513
02:12:41,200 --> 02:12:48,840
Speaker 6: No, and then Bob Stoops. So all right, this is

2514
02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:51,120
Speaker 6: all You aren't easy, This is a good question.

2515
02:12:51,120 --> 02:12:52,280
Speaker 3: I'm only a one of.

2516
02:12:55,640 --> 02:12:57,720
Speaker 2: Hang ont' le's see if let's see if Mark Ramsey

2517
02:12:57,760 --> 02:13:00,600
Speaker 2: can get it. There are only three active on football

2518
02:13:00,640 --> 02:13:02,840
Speaker 2: coaches who won a national championship.

2519
02:13:02,880 --> 02:13:04,800
Speaker 3: I'm the last one to do it. Mark Ramsey with my.

2520
02:13:04,840 --> 02:13:07,920
Speaker 1: Name, I don't know his name, but is the guy

2521
02:13:08,000 --> 02:13:09,200
Speaker 1: from Georgia who.

2522
02:13:09,160 --> 02:13:12,520
Speaker 3: Went to Okay, okay, the joke, finish it off.

2523
02:13:12,640 --> 02:13:15,400
Speaker 1: God Kirby and he's much smarter than.

2524
02:13:17,920 --> 02:13:20,400
Speaker 3: You guys, got it. That's he ended up getting it. See.

2525
02:13:20,880 --> 02:13:23,160
Speaker 2: I came up with this question because remember save It

2526
02:13:23,200 --> 02:13:26,400
Speaker 2: and and Harbor both left the college games down to

2527
02:13:26,480 --> 02:13:28,640
Speaker 2: three Kirby dabbles.

2528
02:13:28,680 --> 02:13:30,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how I blanked on Georgia.

2529
02:13:30,480 --> 02:13:32,240
Speaker 6: And Georgia dominated that year too.

2530
02:13:32,320 --> 02:13:34,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like they'd beat TCU drum.

2531
02:13:35,640 --> 02:13:40,680
Speaker 3: They did. They smashed him. They smashed Michigan too the

2532
02:13:40,760 --> 02:13:41,280
Speaker 3: year before.

2533
02:13:41,880 --> 02:13:46,360
Speaker 2: All Right, moving along, I recently became the first rookie

2534
02:13:47,040 --> 02:13:51,600
Speaker 2: in in w NBA history to record a double double.

2535
02:13:52,280 --> 02:13:55,120
Speaker 2: And I'm talking to I don't okay, let me do

2536
02:13:55,200 --> 02:13:56,520
Speaker 2: that again. I screwed it up.

2537
02:13:57,560 --> 02:14:02,280
Speaker 3: I recently became the first in NBA history to record

2538
02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:04,960
Speaker 3: a triple double. The chef Kevin Wyre.

2539
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:07,120
Speaker 1: What my name Caitlyn Clark.

2540
02:14:07,320 --> 02:14:09,640
Speaker 3: It is Caitlyn Clark, and she did it Saturday night

2541
02:14:11,000 --> 02:14:14,440
Speaker 3: against the best team in the NBA. I'm a WNBA,

2542
02:14:14,560 --> 02:14:14,960
Speaker 3: But you know.

2543
02:14:14,960 --> 02:14:17,400
Speaker 2: They're always picking on Caitlin Clark for her turnovers. I

2544
02:14:17,440 --> 02:14:21,280
Speaker 2: think it's a little unfair, but you may find it

2545
02:14:21,320 --> 02:14:25,320
Speaker 2: interesting to know that in the history the National Basketball Association,

2546
02:14:26,200 --> 02:14:29,600
Speaker 2: I've committed more turnovers than anybody in history.

2547
02:14:30,120 --> 02:14:31,520
Speaker 3: Sham Ogengar. What my name?

2548
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:43,280
Speaker 7: So it's a longtime player. Uh, I'm gonna say Shack.

2549
02:14:44,360 --> 02:14:48,800
Speaker 2: Not Shack, but good guess all right, In the history

2550
02:14:48,800 --> 02:14:51,720
Speaker 2: of the National Basketball Association, I've committed more turnovers than

2551
02:14:51,720 --> 02:14:53,960
Speaker 2: any other player in history.

2552
02:14:54,560 --> 02:14:55,760
Speaker 3: Mark Ramsey, what my name?

2553
02:14:58,000 --> 02:15:00,839
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson, not Agia Johnson.

2554
02:15:01,960 --> 02:15:02,480
Speaker 3: I am.

2555
02:15:02,760 --> 02:15:06,000
Speaker 2: In the NBA history, I've committed more turnovers than anybody

2556
02:15:06,040 --> 02:15:07,200
Speaker 2: else in the game.

2557
02:15:09,360 --> 02:15:10,800
Speaker 3: The chef Kevin Wire, what my name?

2558
02:15:11,200 --> 02:15:11,960
Speaker 1: Lebron James.

2559
02:15:12,000 --> 02:15:15,680
Speaker 3: It is, in fact, Lebron James.

2560
02:15:13,600 --> 02:15:14,240
Speaker 6: That's easy.

2561
02:15:14,520 --> 02:15:21,080
Speaker 3: It is in fact Lebron and James.

2562
02:15:20,760 --> 02:15:23,200
Speaker 6: Is at the top for every stat Seriously.

2563
02:15:23,160 --> 02:15:27,040
Speaker 2: Well you damn near. I mean sure, you be sure?

2564
02:15:27,120 --> 02:15:30,400
Speaker 2: Think about that right? Our last one. You guys are gonna.

2565
02:15:30,160 --> 02:15:33,000
Speaker 3: Get this one. This one's this one's a softball. So

2566
02:15:33,120 --> 02:15:36,200
Speaker 3: we just talked about the Celtics maybe being sold. We

2567
02:15:36,360 --> 02:15:39,480
Speaker 3: just talked about them winning their first championship since two

2568
02:15:39,520 --> 02:15:43,120
Speaker 3: thousand and eight, and they're coached by Joe Missoula. But

2569
02:15:43,240 --> 02:15:45,680
Speaker 3: the last time the Celtics won an NBA championship, I

2570
02:15:45,840 --> 02:15:48,600
Speaker 3: was the head coach Mark Ramsey. What my name.

2571
02:15:50,520 --> 02:15:51,960
Speaker 6: Is his first name Casey?

2572
02:15:52,600 --> 02:15:54,760
Speaker 3: Not Casey, but you're thinking of Casey Jones back in

2573
02:15:54,760 --> 02:15:55,640
Speaker 3: the eighties. Good guess.

2574
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Speaker 2: The last time the Celtics before this year won the

2575
02:15:59,040 --> 02:16:02,080
Speaker 2: NBA Championship two thousand and eight. I was the head coach,

2576
02:16:03,480 --> 02:16:05,120
Speaker 2: Shay Morgan guard what my name.

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02:16:09,480 --> 02:16:13,480
Speaker 6: I'm trying to think last time they won? Who was it?

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02:16:15,880 --> 02:16:18,840
Speaker 3: All right? It's pretty liberal with the buzzer there? Has

2579
02:16:18,840 --> 02:16:19,760
Speaker 3: it been five seconds?

2580
02:16:20,280 --> 02:16:22,120
Speaker 6: Definitely has been five all right.

2581
02:16:24,240 --> 02:16:26,560
Speaker 2: The last time before this season at the Celtics won

2582
02:16:26,600 --> 02:16:29,280
Speaker 2: an NBA championship was two thousand and eight, and I

2583
02:16:29,520 --> 02:16:32,400
Speaker 2: was the head coach, the chef Kevin wired what.

2584
02:16:32,440 --> 02:16:34,480
Speaker 1: We are still getting coaching jobs because of it?

2585
02:16:34,560 --> 02:16:38,840
Speaker 3: Doc Rivers, I get the biggest kick out Jason Smith.

2586
02:16:38,920 --> 02:16:40,640
Speaker 3: You guys were Jason's this year when he makes fun

2587
02:16:40,640 --> 02:16:43,960
Speaker 3: of Doc Rivers. Yeah, oh, that is so classic. I

2588
02:16:44,080 --> 02:16:46,600
Speaker 3: never get tired of hearing that. All right, great job, guys,

2589
02:16:46,640 --> 02:16:49,200
Speaker 3: great job tonight on brand new fool and of course,

2590
02:16:49,640 --> 02:16:52,880
Speaker 3: what my name the grateful nation. We'll have to wait

2591
02:16:52,879 --> 02:16:56,680
Speaker 3: till next Saturday night, Sunday morning, two am, five am,

2592
02:16:56,920 --> 02:16:57,760
Speaker 3: when we do it again.

2593
02:16:58,560 --> 02:17:02,480
Speaker 2: And we will do it again, speaking to do it again. Hey,

2594
02:17:02,800 --> 02:17:06,240
Speaker 2: Lakers guard Bronnie James, he ain't done. The summer League

2595
02:17:06,320 --> 02:17:08,160
Speaker 2: is just getting started. You want to know how to

2596
02:17:08,240 --> 02:17:10,959
Speaker 2: keep watching Bronnie James in the summer League. Hey, we're

2597
02:17:10,959 --> 02:17:11,840
Speaker 2: gonna tell you.

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02:17:11,920 --> 02:17:14,120
Speaker 3: Come it up. Get those pins and pencils ready.

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Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Fraddlewick Comedy Live from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio,

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02:17:17,200 --> 02:17:18,439
Speaker 2: Tyreck dot Com Studios.

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02:17:18,600 --> 02:17:21,920
Speaker 3: Keep it locked, Bernie fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. All right,

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02:17:21,959 --> 02:17:23,320
Speaker 3: back on the Bernie Frattle Show.

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02:17:23,680 --> 02:17:26,360
Speaker 2: By the way, in about thirteen hours, you can see

2604
02:17:26,800 --> 02:17:31,400
Speaker 2: Bronnie James play again three thirty Pacific, six thirty Eastern

2605
02:17:31,480 --> 02:17:32,879
Speaker 2: against the Golden State Warriors.

2606
02:17:33,280 --> 02:17:34,600
Speaker 3: It'll be on NBA TV.

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02:17:36,000 --> 02:17:38,080
Speaker 2: Coming up, Chris Perfet's World of Soccer. He's got a

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02:17:38,120 --> 02:17:40,320
Speaker 2: thing or two to say about the coaching situation. But

2609
02:17:40,360 --> 02:17:42,640
Speaker 2: first we go back to our guy, the chef, Kevin

2610
02:17:42,680 --> 02:17:43,560
Speaker 2: Wyant with the latest.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, in soccer, we do have a big tournament's going on,

2612
02:17:47,240 --> 02:17:50,960
Speaker 9: both Copa America and the Euro twenty twenty four Championships.

2613
02:17:51,000 --> 02:17:55,240
Speaker 9: Brazil out of the tournament, Uruguay beats some on penalty

2614
02:17:55,320 --> 02:17:59,880
Speaker 9: kicks into the quarterfinals, to Uruguay advancing to the Semi

2615
02:18:00,520 --> 02:18:03,680
Speaker 9: Columbia shutting up Panama five nail. So Columbia is still

2616
02:18:03,720 --> 02:18:06,680
Speaker 9: undefeated in its last twenty seven games. And on the

2617
02:18:06,680 --> 02:18:10,880
Speaker 9: European side, it's England winning their quarterfinal on penalty kicks

2618
02:18:10,920 --> 02:18:14,960
Speaker 9: against Switzerland, while the Netherlands comes from behind to eliminate

2619
02:18:15,040 --> 02:18:17,080
Speaker 9: Turkey two to one. So we'll hear more about that

2620
02:18:17,320 --> 02:18:21,920
Speaker 9: from Chris Purfett in just a few minutes. In the NBA,

2621
02:18:22,120 --> 02:18:26,520
Speaker 9: DeMar DeRozan going west as the Sacramento Kings, landing the

2622
02:18:26,640 --> 02:18:30,400
Speaker 9: NBA superstar on a sign in trade, Harrison Bards going

2623
02:18:30,480 --> 02:18:33,640
Speaker 9: at the Spurs, and Sacramento gonna have DeRozan on a

2624
02:18:33,720 --> 02:18:39,920
Speaker 9: three year, seventy four million dollars contract. In a Major

2625
02:18:40,000 --> 02:18:42,760
Speaker 9: League Baseball Dodgers over the Brewers five to three to

2626
02:18:42,800 --> 02:18:47,600
Speaker 9: win their second consecutive game against Milwaukee, Shoeotani going deep

2627
02:18:47,640 --> 02:18:51,280
Speaker 9: for his twenty eighth home run of the season. The

2628
02:18:51,360 --> 02:18:55,119
Speaker 9: Braves over the Philadelphia Phillies five to one. The Guardians

2629
02:18:55,160 --> 02:18:57,440
Speaker 9: get by the San Francisco Giants five to four, the

2630
02:18:57,480 --> 02:19:00,840
Speaker 9: Angels getting an outstanding start from Tyler Anderson eight shutout

2631
02:19:00,840 --> 02:19:04,360
Speaker 9: innings as they blinked the Cubs seven to nothing. The

2632
02:19:04,400 --> 02:19:07,520
Speaker 9: Athletics putting on an offensive clinic against the Orioles at

2633
02:19:07,600 --> 02:19:10,120
Speaker 9: an empty Oakland Coliseum, maybe five hundred fans in a

2634
02:19:10,200 --> 02:19:14,200
Speaker 9: tendance to see the A's demolished the O's nineteen to eight.

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02:19:14,640 --> 02:19:17,920
Speaker 9: The Nationals beat up the Saint Louis Cardinals fourteen to six,

2636
02:19:18,040 --> 02:19:21,080
Speaker 9: and the Yankee snapping of four game losing streak beating

2637
02:19:21,360 --> 02:19:24,000
Speaker 9: the Boston Red Sox fourteen to four. As Ben Rice,

2638
02:19:24,040 --> 02:19:26,800
Speaker 9: the rookie for the Bronx Bombers, sitting three home runs

2639
02:19:27,200 --> 02:19:30,200
Speaker 9: and getting himself seven runs batted in. And as for

2640
02:19:30,240 --> 02:19:33,800
Speaker 9: the MLB All Star rosters, the full rosters will be

2641
02:19:33,879 --> 02:19:40,959
Speaker 9: revealed on Sunday. In tennis, igosviatek out at the Wimbledon.

2642
02:19:41,240 --> 02:19:45,480
Speaker 9: At the Wimbledon tournament, he lost in three sets, while

2643
02:19:45,520 --> 02:19:51,440
Speaker 9: Novak Djokovic advanced in his fourth advances to the fourth round.

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02:19:51,480 --> 02:19:54,720
Speaker 2: Back to you, Bernie, all right, thanks Jef, great performance tonight.

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02:19:54,840 --> 02:19:55,720
Speaker 3: Appreciate it, Bud.

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02:19:57,640 --> 02:20:01,440
Speaker 2: Obviously, the Copoa America didn't end the way any soccer

2647
02:20:01,520 --> 02:20:04,440
Speaker 2: fan wanted it to here in the United States. And yes,

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02:20:04,480 --> 02:20:06,440
Speaker 2: you can be sure Chris Purfett's got a thing or

2649
02:20:06,440 --> 02:20:07,879
Speaker 2: two to say about that.

2650
02:20:07,879 --> 02:20:09,000
Speaker 3: That's why we bring you.

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02:20:09,280 --> 02:20:14,280
Speaker 2: At this time christ Prophet's World of Soccer, the greatest goals,

2652
02:20:19,200 --> 02:20:27,800
Speaker 2: the thrilling finishes, the international drama.

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02:20:29,000 --> 02:20:32,440
Speaker 4: It's all here in this report from the world of Soccer.

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02:20:32,760 --> 02:20:35,119
Speaker 10: Where do we start, Bernie, I feel like I want

2655
02:20:35,160 --> 02:20:37,240
Speaker 10: to follow the words of Ben Maller that the best

2656
02:20:37,240 --> 02:20:38,600
Speaker 10: stories are in the losing locker room.

2657
02:20:38,640 --> 02:20:39,760
Speaker 1: We could talk about Spain.

2658
02:20:40,120 --> 02:20:42,280
Speaker 10: We could talk about how they have five straight wins

2659
02:20:42,280 --> 02:20:44,879
Speaker 10: the first time ever getting over the hosts of Germany.

2660
02:20:44,920 --> 02:20:47,760
Speaker 10: That's fantastic and I love what Spain has done. I

2661
02:20:47,760 --> 02:20:52,279
Speaker 10: love what France has done in euros euro ratings are skyrocketing.

2662
02:20:52,560 --> 02:20:55,680
Speaker 10: European Championship is the most watched, one of the most

2663
02:20:55,760 --> 02:20:59,840
Speaker 10: watched things of the summer, and it is remarkable. On Fox,

2664
02:21:00,640 --> 02:21:03,920
Speaker 10: I would like to talk about Christiano Ronaldo and the

2665
02:21:03,959 --> 02:21:09,360
Speaker 10: poor performance he has shown in European Championship, including a

2666
02:21:09,520 --> 02:21:14,840
Speaker 10: very grim refusal to be on the field and comfort

2667
02:21:14,879 --> 02:21:19,000
Speaker 10: Wajo Felix after his miss the only Portuguese player to

2668
02:21:19,080 --> 02:21:25,120
Speaker 10: miss penalty kicks which leads them to exit European Championship

2669
02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:28,080
Speaker 10: against France. Every other Portuguese player came over there to

2670
02:21:28,200 --> 02:21:29,119
Speaker 10: comfort Felix.

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02:21:29,160 --> 02:21:30,640
Speaker 1: It was a remarkable scene.

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02:21:30,680 --> 02:21:33,800
Speaker 10: But Rinaldo was headed completely for the exits at that time.

2673
02:21:34,920 --> 02:21:36,520
Speaker 1: Rinaldo, of course, had.

2674
02:21:36,400 --> 02:21:40,760
Speaker 10: Been missing penalties earlier in this competition, and Rinaldo's arrogance

2675
02:21:40,879 --> 02:21:45,959
Speaker 10: is kind of the reason Portugal is leaving European Championship,

2676
02:21:46,040 --> 02:21:49,160
Speaker 10: rather than his spot going to someone more younger, more youthful.

2677
02:21:49,160 --> 02:21:51,240
Speaker 10: In a lot of this team still acquiescing to the

2678
02:21:51,280 --> 02:21:54,160
Speaker 10: demands of Ronaldo. But no, I won't even have time

2679
02:21:54,200 --> 02:21:56,400
Speaker 10: for that. I'm going to leave that right here. I'm

2680
02:21:56,400 --> 02:21:59,200
Speaker 10: going to just talk about the US men's team. And

2681
02:21:59,280 --> 02:22:01,760
Speaker 10: I know we've talked about the US men's team a lot,

2682
02:22:01,959 --> 02:22:06,160
Speaker 10: but this is a disaster. This is an unmitigated disaster.

2683
02:22:07,040 --> 02:22:09,280
Speaker 10: We talked about what they had it to do, had

2684
02:22:09,280 --> 02:22:12,480
Speaker 10: to do against Uruguay to move on to the knockout

2685
02:22:12,520 --> 02:22:15,920
Speaker 10: round of Copa America, and Uruguay put the US men's

2686
02:22:15,920 --> 02:22:19,880
Speaker 10: team right back in their place. Panama is moving onto

2687
02:22:19,879 --> 02:22:23,680
Speaker 10: the knockout round. Canada is moving onto the knockout round.

2688
02:22:23,840 --> 02:22:28,080
Speaker 10: Canada is moving onto that round. The US is going

2689
02:22:28,200 --> 02:22:33,160
Speaker 10: home in a competition they host in stadiums that were

2690
02:22:33,240 --> 02:22:38,200
Speaker 10: their fans. Everything was in their favor, and two losses,

2691
02:22:38,680 --> 02:22:44,440
Speaker 10: two losses superseded that Bolivia opener win that everyone went

2692
02:22:44,560 --> 02:22:47,200
Speaker 10: nuts about and started talking about the talent, and it

2693
02:22:47,240 --> 02:22:51,000
Speaker 10: really reinforces these past two wins. The worst aspects of

2694
02:22:51,080 --> 02:22:54,720
Speaker 10: the US men's team Number one their ability to get

2695
02:22:54,720 --> 02:22:59,640
Speaker 10: stimmied by Conka caff opponents. Since October twenty first, twenty

2696
02:22:59,680 --> 02:23:04,080
Speaker 10: twenty one, the US has only won once against Panama

2697
02:23:04,320 --> 02:23:07,680
Speaker 10: in four competitions, two losses and a draw that resulted

2698
02:23:07,720 --> 02:23:11,200
Speaker 10: in a loss on penalties. And Uruguay one of the

2699
02:23:11,240 --> 02:23:15,120
Speaker 10: top hottest teams coming into Copa America. And I've heard

2700
02:23:15,320 --> 02:23:19,880
Speaker 10: constantly about Greg Berhalter's record against the best nations out there,

2701
02:23:19,959 --> 02:23:24,080
Speaker 10: about how in all these competitions, how his teams rise

2702
02:23:24,160 --> 02:23:26,120
Speaker 10: to the moment. They well, they didn't rise to it

2703
02:23:26,120 --> 02:23:29,039
Speaker 10: against Uruguay. They certainly didn't rise to it when all

2704
02:23:29,080 --> 02:23:31,520
Speaker 10: they need to do is match Panama on points, when

2705
02:23:31,640 --> 02:23:34,160
Speaker 10: Uruguay had no reason to bowl them over, and yet

2706
02:23:34,320 --> 02:23:37,039
Speaker 10: Uruguay bowled them over. This is a team that looks

2707
02:23:37,080 --> 02:23:40,680
Speaker 10: completely lost when they can control the ball. This is

2708
02:23:40,720 --> 02:23:43,720
Speaker 10: a team whose touches in the midfield, and any soccer

2709
02:23:43,760 --> 02:23:46,480
Speaker 10: expert will tell you that the midfield is where you

2710
02:23:46,600 --> 02:23:50,480
Speaker 10: live and die as a soccer team have gone completely

2711
02:23:50,959 --> 02:23:52,560
Speaker 10: off the reservation.

2712
02:23:52,280 --> 02:23:54,240
Speaker 1: Down, down, down.

2713
02:23:54,720 --> 02:23:57,240
Speaker 10: It is bleak right now, and it has brought out

2714
02:23:57,240 --> 02:24:01,480
Speaker 10: everyone to scramble and really do some searching. Not just

2715
02:24:01,520 --> 02:24:03,960
Speaker 10: about this US men's team. There's a lot of soul

2716
02:24:03,959 --> 02:24:07,000
Speaker 10: searching to be done there about why the talent that

2717
02:24:07,080 --> 02:24:09,800
Speaker 10: is supposed to be greater than the previous generation isn't

2718
02:24:09,800 --> 02:24:15,000
Speaker 10: showing up. Where's jiovonnie Reina. Where's Christian Pulisich the supposed leader.

2719
02:24:15,160 --> 02:24:17,440
Speaker 10: Why is Baligan, a man who's only been on the

2720
02:24:17,440 --> 02:24:19,520
Speaker 10: team since May, the one with most of the goals

2721
02:24:19,840 --> 02:24:20,760
Speaker 10: in this tournament?

2722
02:24:21,080 --> 02:24:22,760
Speaker 1: Where is this? Where is that?

2723
02:24:22,840 --> 02:24:26,200
Speaker 10: Why did Timothy Way draw a red card? But it

2724
02:24:26,240 --> 02:24:30,640
Speaker 10: also has brought on questions about, say, the entire US

2725
02:24:30,720 --> 02:24:34,120
Speaker 10: Federation and how they're going to probably backber Halter in

2726
02:24:34,160 --> 02:24:40,960
Speaker 10: spite of a massive declining, declining output in in success.

2727
02:24:41,160 --> 02:24:44,120
Speaker 10: And it's even coming on a referendum about how the

2728
02:24:45,000 --> 02:24:48,360
Speaker 10: culture of soccer is in the United States itself. I

2729
02:24:48,400 --> 02:24:51,760
Speaker 10: have heard many people start to talk once again, including

2730
02:24:51,760 --> 02:24:55,760
Speaker 10: on Fox Sports Fox Sports Radio, about the nature of

2731
02:24:55,800 --> 02:24:58,520
Speaker 10: travel soccer. Are we even getting the best talent in

2732
02:24:58,640 --> 02:25:02,840
Speaker 10: sports in this country too come play soccer? And we

2733
02:25:02,879 --> 02:25:05,560
Speaker 10: are realizing that as long as you are charging one

2734
02:25:05,560 --> 02:25:09,720
Speaker 10: thousand dollars a year, you are probably not. No football

2735
02:25:09,760 --> 02:25:12,720
Speaker 10: isn't taking away the best soccer talent the America can offer.

2736
02:25:13,000 --> 02:25:16,640
Speaker 10: No baseball and basketball aren't taking away the best talent

2737
02:25:16,920 --> 02:25:19,680
Speaker 10: soccer could offer. Let me tell you something, Lionel Messi

2738
02:25:19,760 --> 02:25:22,480
Speaker 10: is not playing in the NFL at five foot four.

2739
02:25:22,840 --> 02:25:26,199
Speaker 10: That talent is out there. But as many other countries,

2740
02:25:26,280 --> 02:25:31,200
Speaker 10: including England, have discovered, when you put price tags on soccer,

2741
02:25:31,720 --> 02:25:36,920
Speaker 10: it had completely destroys access to those teams. England realized

2742
02:25:37,040 --> 02:25:41,040
Speaker 10: that their dominance in the sport was completely at at

2743
02:25:41,320 --> 02:25:46,240
Speaker 10: harold if they did not start to subsidize more their federation.

2744
02:25:46,720 --> 02:25:49,680
Speaker 10: They realized that it had to be free and open

2745
02:25:49,720 --> 02:25:51,600
Speaker 10: to people to come in, and that is not something

2746
02:25:51,680 --> 02:25:54,560
Speaker 10: that exists in the US. We completely cut out the

2747
02:25:54,560 --> 02:25:58,560
Speaker 10: working class, We completely cutting out the lower income classes

2748
02:25:58,680 --> 02:26:02,520
Speaker 10: when it comes to acts to youth soccer in this country.

2749
02:26:02,760 --> 02:26:08,680
Speaker 10: And that has long reaching implications, twenty plus year implications

2750
02:26:09,040 --> 02:26:13,760
Speaker 10: that the US is reaping right now, and it is exhausting.

2751
02:26:13,840 --> 02:26:16,680
Speaker 10: It's exhausting to come here once again, and a loss

2752
02:26:16,760 --> 02:26:20,120
Speaker 10: like this becomes exhausting. Dealing with soccer skeptics, people who

2753
02:26:20,200 --> 02:26:23,160
Speaker 10: will Dack extremely smug and talk about how the US

2754
02:26:23,240 --> 02:26:26,320
Speaker 10: will never be a soccer nation because we don't like

2755
02:26:26,400 --> 02:26:30,440
Speaker 10: this strange, weird foreign sport. That is completely wrong and

2756
02:26:30,480 --> 02:26:34,960
Speaker 10: that is disproven completely as you look at these skyrocketing

2757
02:26:35,040 --> 02:26:39,800
Speaker 10: ratings for European champions on Fox. But a loss like

2758
02:26:39,840 --> 02:26:42,160
Speaker 10: this brings all the people out of the woodwork, and

2759
02:26:42,240 --> 02:26:46,280
Speaker 10: it is a bunch of smug grandpas sitting around talking

2760
02:26:46,320 --> 02:26:49,520
Speaker 10: about this strange little sport, how it will never catch on.

2761
02:26:49,720 --> 02:26:51,200
Speaker 1: It is this, that and the other thing.

2762
02:26:51,520 --> 02:26:54,400
Speaker 10: And it's exhausting dealing with those people because they're just

2763
02:26:54,520 --> 02:26:57,360
Speaker 10: not serious. They're not serious about anything. But you know

2764
02:26:57,400 --> 02:27:00,120
Speaker 10: who's also not serious is this US men's team to

2765
02:27:00,160 --> 02:27:04,039
Speaker 10: actually show you some success Americans. And I am quoting

2766
02:27:04,040 --> 02:27:06,320
Speaker 10: from Joe Dumars talking who talked to me about the

2767
02:27:06,320 --> 02:27:09,360
Speaker 10: Detroit sports scene one time. Joe Dumars, the Detroit bad

2768
02:27:09,400 --> 02:27:11,880
Speaker 10: boy turned general manager who brought them a championship in

2769
02:27:11,920 --> 02:27:14,520
Speaker 10: two thousand and four. It's not that they're front runners,

2770
02:27:14,720 --> 02:27:17,879
Speaker 10: but they will only respect you if you can put

2771
02:27:17,920 --> 02:27:21,000
Speaker 10: a winner on the field, and the US team refuses

2772
02:27:21,080 --> 02:27:24,880
Speaker 10: to do so once again, to talk about how this

2773
02:27:24,959 --> 02:27:27,800
Speaker 10: team could have been so much more it's exhausting to

2774
02:27:27,840 --> 02:27:31,240
Speaker 10: talk about how the US Soccer Federation is a good

2775
02:27:31,240 --> 02:27:33,480
Speaker 10: old boys club that will look at this loss by

2776
02:27:33,520 --> 02:27:37,080
Speaker 10: Greg Borhlter and maybe there's a change between before twenty

2777
02:27:37,120 --> 02:27:41,320
Speaker 10: twenty six that everyone sees as desperately needed in this

2778
02:27:41,440 --> 02:27:44,520
Speaker 10: team's identity, certainly in some of the players that are

2779
02:27:44,520 --> 02:27:47,720
Speaker 10: on the field. But to be honest, people who cover

2780
02:27:47,800 --> 02:27:51,800
Speaker 10: this sport are just crestfallen at this idea that's just

2781
02:27:52,040 --> 02:27:55,959
Speaker 10: not going to happen, and that is brutal. That will

2782
02:27:56,040 --> 02:28:00,160
Speaker 10: kill things more than anything else in this country for

2783
02:28:00,320 --> 02:28:03,879
Speaker 10: the sport, and it will kill the love of US

2784
02:28:03,920 --> 02:28:07,880
Speaker 10: soccer for everyone, for everyone. I can't trust these guys.

2785
02:28:07,920 --> 02:28:10,720
Speaker 10: I can't trust this team right now that I am watching,

2786
02:28:11,160 --> 02:28:14,800
Speaker 10: I don't know who they are. I don't They refuse

2787
02:28:14,920 --> 02:28:19,000
Speaker 10: to play up to their competition, they refuse to show bite,

2788
02:28:19,280 --> 02:28:21,160
Speaker 10: and as soon as they they they are a ball

2789
02:28:21,200 --> 02:28:24,440
Speaker 10: possession team, and as soon as they can't control the ball,

2790
02:28:24,520 --> 02:28:27,080
Speaker 10: they seem to shrivel up and curl up in the corner.

2791
02:28:27,200 --> 02:28:29,720
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't respect that.

2792
02:28:30,320 --> 02:28:33,199
Speaker 10: I just cannot, and I cannot respect a coach who

2793
02:28:33,280 --> 02:28:37,840
Speaker 10: remains here after multiple high high profile losses the way

2794
02:28:37,840 --> 02:28:41,000
Speaker 10: he has. I mentioned Panama that that loss and penalties

2795
02:28:41,040 --> 02:28:44,400
Speaker 10: that was for the Gold Cup. All right, you've you've

2796
02:28:44,480 --> 02:28:50,160
Speaker 10: let Panama remove you from major competitions twice. Now, that's

2797
02:28:50,240 --> 02:28:56,240
Speaker 10: that's unacceptable. The Jamaica draw was unacceptable. It's becoming more

2798
02:28:56,320 --> 02:28:59,519
Speaker 10: frustrating to talk about this team. It's becoming more frustrating

2799
02:28:59,840 --> 02:29:02,280
Speaker 10: to look at all the promises, all that people say

2800
02:29:02,280 --> 02:29:04,800
Speaker 10: this team should do, and then when they go out

2801
02:29:04,879 --> 02:29:08,400
Speaker 10: and don't do and that is why change has to

2802
02:29:08,440 --> 02:29:14,080
Speaker 10: happen or else this could be a complete footnote to

2803
02:29:14,200 --> 02:29:17,720
Speaker 10: people just once again watching the European teams in this country.

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02:29:17,879 --> 02:29:19,720
Speaker 10: I'm sorry I've gone long here, Bernie. We'll see you

2805
02:29:19,720 --> 02:29:20,959
Speaker 10: next time on the World of Soccer.

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02:29:22,000 --> 02:29:25,959
Speaker 2: No sense sugarcoating it coming up.

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02:29:26,560 --> 02:29:28,920
Speaker 3: Well, we just had the fourth of July holiday.

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02:29:29,000 --> 02:29:31,320
Speaker 2: Many famous people were born on the fourth of July,

2809
02:29:31,959 --> 02:29:35,720
Speaker 2: and I want to give flowers to one in particular,

2810
02:29:35,879 --> 02:29:39,400
Speaker 2: one I know that Andy Furman will be very familiar with.

2811
02:29:40,600 --> 02:29:45,359
Speaker 2: And you know, on July fourth it rouses up memories

2812
02:29:45,360 --> 02:29:49,560
Speaker 2: of baseball, hot dogs, apple pie, and beach balls.

2813
02:29:50,480 --> 02:29:53,560
Speaker 3: I will glue together when we come back. I'm Bernie Fradder.

2814
02:29:53,560 --> 02:29:55,080
Speaker 2: We're coming to a liar from the Las Vegas Fox

2815
02:29:55,080 --> 02:29:57,960
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Tarek dot Com studios. Keep it locked. You're

2816
02:29:57,959 --> 02:29:59,959
Speaker 2: listening to the Bernie fratter Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2817
02:30:01,720 --> 02:30:03,800
Speaker 2: All right, we're wrapping it up on the Bernie Frattles Show.

2818
02:30:04,320 --> 02:30:06,360
Speaker 2: Before I go any further, I want to thank my

2819
02:30:06,440 --> 02:30:07,959
Speaker 2: broadcast team.

2820
02:30:07,760 --> 02:30:09,039
Speaker 3: I'm back in Los Angeles.

2821
02:30:09,120 --> 02:30:13,360
Speaker 2: They've been with me since eleven pm Pacific time on

2822
02:30:13,440 --> 02:30:17,640
Speaker 2: Saturday night. Mark Ramsey, our technical producer, turning all the Donalds,

2823
02:30:17,760 --> 02:30:21,640
Speaker 2: keeping us glued together, and of course, said Moganngard, our

2824
02:30:21,680 --> 02:30:24,920
Speaker 2: executive producer, Guy's great job tonight, brand newfool.

2825
02:30:24,959 --> 02:30:27,680
Speaker 3: What my name is the chef Kevin Wyrett on the updates?

2826
02:30:27,959 --> 02:30:30,360
Speaker 3: Outstanding teamwork as always.

2827
02:30:30,360 --> 02:30:32,360
Speaker 2: By the way, I'll be back on these airwaves Thursday night,

2828
02:30:32,440 --> 02:30:35,240
Speaker 2: sitting in for Ben Maller, and we'll have some fun.

2829
02:30:36,120 --> 02:30:38,119
Speaker 2: A lot of famous people born on the fourth of July,

2830
02:30:38,240 --> 02:30:41,520
Speaker 2: but one in particular. It is synonymous with baseball, hot

2831
02:30:41,560 --> 02:30:43,160
Speaker 2: dogs and apple pie.

2832
02:30:42,920 --> 02:30:44,440
Speaker 3: And yes, beach balls.

2833
02:30:44,440 --> 02:30:47,000
Speaker 2: You know sometimes people go to baseball games and they

2834
02:30:47,080 --> 02:30:51,000
Speaker 2: bat beach balls around in the stands. Well, this leads

2835
02:30:51,040 --> 02:30:54,720
Speaker 2: to my story. First of all, happy belated birthday to MORGANA.

2836
02:30:54,840 --> 02:30:58,840
Speaker 2: Roberts born in July fourth, nineteen forty seven, and you

2837
02:30:58,879 --> 02:31:01,440
Speaker 2: know her as Morgana the Kissing Bandit. For a three

2838
02:31:01,560 --> 02:31:05,440
Speaker 2: decade period, she was synonymous with baseball as much as

2839
02:31:05,480 --> 02:31:08,160
Speaker 2: Pete Rose and George Bratt, who, of course, were two

2840
02:31:08,200 --> 02:31:12,280
Speaker 2: of her quote victims. Pete Rose was her first back

2841
02:31:12,320 --> 02:31:17,000
Speaker 2: in August in nineteen sixty nine, Morgana's girlfriend dared her

2842
02:31:17,000 --> 02:31:18,320
Speaker 2: to run on with the field and kissed one of

2843
02:31:18,400 --> 02:31:21,760
Speaker 2: the players, and Pete Rose was the first quoting victim,

2844
02:31:22,440 --> 02:31:24,920
Speaker 2: and the rest is history. For the next thirty years,

2845
02:31:24,920 --> 02:31:29,960
Speaker 2: three decades, she had over seventy three such victims. And

2846
02:31:30,000 --> 02:31:33,520
Speaker 2: it wasn't just baseball, it was basketball. Kareem Abdul Jabbar,

2847
02:31:33,600 --> 02:31:37,080
Speaker 2: but she had Johnny Bench, Nolan Ryan, Steve Garvey, cowrickn

2848
02:31:37,200 --> 02:31:38,760
Speaker 2: just to name a few. George Brett was the only

2849
02:31:38,800 --> 02:31:41,600
Speaker 2: when she kissed twice. She actually got the San Diego

2850
02:31:41,680 --> 02:31:44,680
Speaker 2: Chicken one night, who famously told her quote, kiss me

2851
02:31:44,760 --> 02:31:47,600
Speaker 2: on the cheek, it's more sanitary and my wife won't

2852
02:31:47,600 --> 02:31:53,080
Speaker 2: get mad. Obviously, her stats, which she flaunted sixty twenty

2853
02:31:53,080 --> 02:31:56,680
Speaker 2: three thirty six, they were her calling card. They made

2854
02:31:56,680 --> 02:32:01,320
Speaker 2: her recognizable, they made her popular. I fortunately got to

2855
02:32:01,320 --> 02:32:04,520
Speaker 2: see a live performance Morgana one night.

2856
02:32:05,040 --> 02:32:06,880
Speaker 3: Yes it was a beauty.

2857
02:32:07,240 --> 02:32:12,120
Speaker 2: It's actually a day game in Anaheim Stadium, Angel Stadium

2858
02:32:13,040 --> 02:32:16,520
Speaker 2: June in nineteen eighty three. Freddy Lynn was the culprit.

2859
02:32:16,879 --> 02:32:18,880
Speaker 2: And here's where the story to me gets so funny.

2860
02:32:19,920 --> 02:32:23,160
Speaker 2: As I told you, people baseball games and sometimes they

2861
02:32:23,200 --> 02:32:24,840
Speaker 2: do the wave, they sit on the phone, they drink

2862
02:32:24,879 --> 02:32:29,120
Speaker 2: wine coolers, and they bat beach balls around. So Freddie

2863
02:32:29,160 --> 02:32:32,480
Speaker 2: Lynn was walking up to bat one day and he says,

2864
02:32:32,520 --> 02:32:34,920
Speaker 2: as I was heading to the plate, I heard all

2865
02:32:35,040 --> 02:32:38,640
Speaker 2: sorts of cat calls behind me, and I know what

2866
02:32:38,720 --> 02:32:42,400
Speaker 2: is going on? Felt something weird. He knew something was up,

2867
02:32:42,440 --> 02:32:44,520
Speaker 2: and he said, I figured it could only be one

2868
02:32:44,520 --> 02:32:46,840
Speaker 2: of two things. Either there was a fight in the

2869
02:32:46,879 --> 02:32:54,000
Speaker 2: stands or beach balls. And I turned around and sure enough.

2870
02:32:54,680 --> 02:33:00,920
Speaker 3: It was beach balls. Mark.

2871
02:33:02,000 --> 02:33:04,640
Speaker 2: That was Morgana. She was born July fourth, one of

2872
02:33:04,680 --> 02:33:09,760
Speaker 2: the many Luminaries that were born on July fourth, and

2873
02:33:09,840 --> 02:33:12,240
Speaker 2: Morgan Morgana had a really interesting life.

2874
02:33:12,280 --> 02:33:14,240
Speaker 3: And the reason I wish I should have had.

2875
02:33:14,080 --> 02:33:18,280
Speaker 2: Andy fermannhon because this back in nineteen sixty nine, the

2876
02:33:18,280 --> 02:33:22,440
Speaker 2: Reds were still playing at Crosley Field, and that's when

2877
02:33:22,440 --> 02:33:25,640
Speaker 2: Morgana's best friend dared her to kiss one of the players.

2878
02:33:25,640 --> 02:33:28,199
Speaker 2: It just happened to be Pete Rose, and a fuse

2879
02:33:28,280 --> 02:33:30,680
Speaker 2: was lit, and I understand Rose was upset at first

2880
02:33:31,080 --> 02:33:33,080
Speaker 2: cussed her out, but the next day regrouped in cent

2881
02:33:33,120 --> 02:33:39,040
Speaker 2: her flowers. And for the next thirty years, Morgana became

2882
02:33:39,200 --> 02:33:44,440
Speaker 2: a thing. And you know, she was really liked, I

2883
02:33:44,480 --> 02:33:47,199
Speaker 2: think by a lot of people and actually had really

2884
02:33:47,520 --> 02:33:54,760
Speaker 2: quite a life around that, because her notoriety got to

2885
02:33:54,800 --> 02:33:58,959
Speaker 2: the point where she was even on the Johnny Carson Show.

2886
02:33:59,080 --> 02:34:02,400
Speaker 2: She was on Late Night with David Letterman. She occasionally

2887
02:34:02,400 --> 02:34:05,920
Speaker 2: hosted a show in the Ohio called Good Morning Columbus,

2888
02:34:05,920 --> 02:34:09,200
Speaker 2: which is a local TV talk show, and Morgana even

2889
02:34:09,200 --> 02:34:12,200
Speaker 2: appeared on as a mystery guest on that old this

2890
02:34:12,320 --> 02:34:14,920
Speaker 2: goes back to nineteen seventy eight game show called to

2891
02:34:14,959 --> 02:34:18,760
Speaker 2: Tell the Truth Right, and the truth of the matter is.

2892
02:34:18,840 --> 02:34:23,920
Speaker 2: Morgana became sort of a fixture in the you know,

2893
02:34:24,720 --> 02:34:28,480
Speaker 2: lexicon known as our pastime, which was Major League baseball,

2894
02:34:28,720 --> 02:34:32,280
Speaker 2: and I think baseball historians fans all kind of acknowledge

2895
02:34:32,720 --> 02:34:35,879
Speaker 2: she'll always be remembered as sort of a unique addition

2896
02:34:35,959 --> 02:34:39,840
Speaker 2: to baseball. In July fourth, over six hundred thousand fans

2897
02:34:41,360 --> 02:34:45,800
Speaker 2: ten games every year, and Morgana was born on July fourth.

2898
02:34:45,840 --> 02:34:49,959
Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, once she shut things down in nineteen ninety nine,

2899
02:34:50,000 --> 02:34:52,000
Speaker 2: that was her career August Is sixty nine.

2900
02:34:52,280 --> 02:34:54,600
Speaker 3: To nineteen ninety nine. She was done.

2901
02:34:55,320 --> 02:34:59,360
Speaker 2: She was done, never to return. Somehow, the USA Today

2902
02:35:00,120 --> 02:35:02,680
Speaker 2: got her to make a I say this in Air

2903
02:35:02,760 --> 02:35:07,200
Speaker 2: quotes a public appearance in August of twenty nineteen, which

2904
02:35:07,240 --> 02:35:12,120
Speaker 2: coincided with the fiftieth anniversary the first time she ever

2905
02:35:12,200 --> 02:35:14,920
Speaker 2: ran out of the field. She did a phone interview

2906
02:35:14,959 --> 02:35:18,360
Speaker 2: with USA Today on that fiftieth anniversary of Wherever You

2907
02:35:18,800 --> 02:35:22,320
Speaker 2: First Ever on Field Kiss with Pete Rose, and during

2908
02:35:22,360 --> 02:35:27,720
Speaker 2: that interview she affirmed Morgana affirmed that she is definitely retired.

2909
02:35:28,600 --> 02:35:31,920
Speaker 2: So while Americans were enjoying the Fourth of July at

2910
02:35:31,920 --> 02:35:35,960
Speaker 2: the ballpark this past year baseball, hot dogs, apple pie,

2911
02:35:36,800 --> 02:35:41,520
Speaker 2: and beach balls, well there was no Morgana. She very

2912
02:35:41,600 --> 02:35:44,360
Speaker 2: quietly turned seventy seven years old. She lives alone in

2913
02:35:44,360 --> 02:35:48,720
Speaker 2: Ohio and no longer gives interviews. But for one day

2914
02:35:49,920 --> 02:35:53,199
Speaker 2: I got to see Morgana do her deal, and Freddie

2915
02:35:53,240 --> 02:35:55,720
Speaker 2: Lynn was very funny about it, and I just recognized

2916
02:35:56,400 --> 02:35:58,640
Speaker 2: just this last week that he even tweeted out that day.

2917
02:35:58,640 --> 02:35:59,120
Speaker 3: I didn't know.

2918
02:35:59,200 --> 02:36:02,280
Speaker 2: I checked it out, and yes, I can honestly say

2919
02:36:02,959 --> 02:36:05,840
Speaker 2: I was there. It's gonna do for the Bernie Frattle

2920
02:36:05,920 --> 02:36:07,840
Speaker 2: Show now, by the way, like I said, I will

2921
02:36:07,840 --> 02:36:11,000
Speaker 2: be on these airways Thursday night. Ben Maller will be

2922
02:36:11,000 --> 02:36:12,360
Speaker 2: taking the night off, so we'll have a lot of

2923
02:36:12,400 --> 02:36:15,640
Speaker 2: fun and it'll be the night before Bronnie makes his

2924
02:36:15,760 --> 02:36:19,520
Speaker 2: debut in the Las Vegas Summer League NBA Summer League,

2925
02:36:19,560 --> 02:36:22,320
Speaker 2: so we'll have plenty to talk about as usual. So

2926
02:36:22,360 --> 02:36:24,120
Speaker 2: that's gonna do for the Bernie Fradle Show tonight. Keep

2927
02:36:24,120 --> 02:36:27,200
Speaker 2: it locked up next, They're great. Andy Furman on Fox

2928
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio,