1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. Everybody, 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: what's going on, DJ, Bucky here, move the sticks are 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: Our football world is full right now. Buck. It seems 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: like it wasn't that long ago. We're just waiting for 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: the start of the football season, and now I feel 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: like we're like right in the middle of it. We're 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: definitely in the mix. Uh. I love it though. I 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: think this is fascinating. I think it's fascinated from our 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: perspective where we are consumed with the team building process 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: to kind of watch how you expect certain teams to 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: be when you look at them in the preseason or 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: when you see what they acquire in the drafts and 13 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: free agency, and then when you get a chance to 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: watch him in the preseason, and then when you see 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: them actually play. And I think we have reached a 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: point now where the NFL is if you talked about this, 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: I've seen you put this on Twitter. The first four 18 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: games of the regular season are meaningless. They're really preseason 19 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: games because you're still trying to figure out your team. 20 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: Because teams are treating the real preseason differently. The first 21 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: four games of the regular season are really kind of 22 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: filled out process. Well, now we're really in the the 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: meat of the season, you kind of have an identity 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: being established and you can begin to kind of separate 25 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: the contenders from the pretenders just on the surface. And 26 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: so I think more teams are taking that approach, and 27 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: we're seeing teams begin to kind of play to the 28 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: strength of their squad. And so now I believe the 29 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: assessments that we make about teams are more real and 30 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: true because we've seen enough visual evidence to kind of 31 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: make some determinations on which teams are trending the right 32 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: way and which teams need to make some significant moves 33 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: to really help them get back on track, no doubt. 34 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: And uh, it's so true when you look at what 35 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: we've seen, it's kind of there's some fool's gold in 36 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: the middle of some of these first three or four weeks. 37 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: But now you're starting to see things kind of even out, 38 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: and you're starting to realize what the identities really are 39 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: for these football teams. I do want team what's coming 40 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: up not just on today's show get to that in 41 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: a second, but in the future, with the start of 42 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: the basket ball season really close, we're gonna have a 43 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a special episode come in your way, 44 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: so be on the lookout for that where we're going 45 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: to speak with a couple of folks that have a 46 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: connection in the basketball world as well as the football world, 47 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: and we kind of answered this question, or we're seeking 48 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: to answer this question, why is there so much carry 49 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: over in these two sports. So many great NFL players 50 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: were also great basketball players. So we're gonna have some 51 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: interesting conversations and dive into that topic. I can't wait 52 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: for you guys to hear that episode once it's up 53 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: and running, once the basketball season gets cranked up. But 54 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: in this episode today, Buck, we've got a little recap 55 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: from the from the Lions Packers game, which was very interesting, Uh, 56 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 1: to say the least. A lot of topics to hit there. 57 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: I want to hit on some off the radar NFL 58 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: head coaching candidates. And then I was I was thinking 59 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: about this one. The forty Niners, a team last year 60 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: that's that's picking up there in the top five, the 61 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: number two overall pick. But the reason they were up 62 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: there was because they were crushed with injuries. You start 63 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: with the quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo last years as well as 64 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: some other injuries, So I felt like the talent was 65 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: much better than the record. And I think there's some 66 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: candidates to be next year's version of the forty Niners 67 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: team where they've got some good players, they've had some 68 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: bad luck this year, could find themselves with a high 69 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: pick and could have a very quick turnaround. Yeah. Absolutely, 70 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: there's some teams that are well positioned to kind of 71 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: bounce back. But so it'd be fun to have that 72 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: conversation because you're right to San Francisco, forty Niners have 73 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: kind of laid out a blueprint for how to rebuild 74 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: this thing. It took maybe a little log than some 75 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: of us speculated, but you are seeing that if you 76 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: make the right moves in the draft, and you supplement 77 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: those with a couple of good moves and free agency, 78 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: your team can go from being lost into wilderness to 79 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: being one of the teams that we talked about being 80 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: a heavyweight contended in the league, and you talked about 81 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: being able to do it in a two or three 82 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: years span. It happens fast, and um, I think they're 83 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: the latest example of that. All right, let's let's get 84 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: into the game. Last night here, Lions Packers Packers won 85 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: a little controversy there twenty three to twenty two. Obviously 86 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: some hands to the face penalties that people in Detroit 87 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: were a none too pleased about on some key downs 88 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: there um, But just your overall big picture takeaway from 89 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: this game and what you thought about the controversy there. 90 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: Look at a couple of big big picture takeaways. For me. One, 91 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: I think the green Bay Packers have built a team 92 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: that is uh, I guess better position to be a 93 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: viable contender on a yearly basis. When I look at 94 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: the green Bay Packers, they are a team that is 95 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: finally balanced out, meaning they not only can depend on 96 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: number twelve Aaron Rodgers to do magical things and help 97 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: them win games, but they now have kind of decided 98 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: to build a team that has the ability to run 99 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: the ball. We saw them run in a dominant fashion 100 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: against the Detroit Lions. Uh. You still have Aaron Rodgers 101 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: able to do the special things that he's able to do, 102 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: but also their defense can keep the score down and 103 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: give them opportunities until that offense cranks up. I can't 104 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: say that in the past we could look at the 105 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: green Bay Packers team and say that if Aaron Rodgers 106 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: didn't play greater, or if this offense didn't kind of 107 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: hit the ground running from the beginning of the game, 108 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: that their defense could kind of keep it in play 109 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: for them to work themselves back. Now they have a 110 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: defense that is able to do that, and it gives 111 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: them the luxury of still being able to commit to 112 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: run in the ball and grinding it out and taking 113 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: some of the pressure off Aaron Rodgers. And I think 114 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: this is a better long term plan with Aaron Rodgers 115 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: getting older that over the next two or three years, 116 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: the Packers will be able to continue to compete because 117 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: they're taking some of the weight off of Aaron Rodgers 118 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: shoulders and allowing the team, the entire team, to be 119 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: a bigger part of the winning game plan. You know, 120 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: it's interesting, um. One of the stats that I've always 121 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: looked at and if long felt was important UM was 122 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: sacks versus sacks allowed. You kind of look at that 123 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: sack ratio there and this screen Bay Packers team is 124 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: plus seven right now. They've had eighteen sacks on defense, 125 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: they've only allowed eleven on offense. And to me, I 126 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: just think that speaks to how you're built. And they've 127 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: done a nice job there of building up the fronts 128 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: on both sides. And this offseason you talk about addressing 129 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: a need, um and and look, there's different theories, right Buck. 130 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: Some times you can say, well, we're gonna you know, 131 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna sprinkle our resources and different areas of the team. 132 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a balanced football team. I thought, Man, 133 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: the Greenbay Packers said we've got to be better upfront defensively, 134 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: and they unloaded, they unloaded the checkbook, they unloaded with 135 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: draft picks, and they loaded up on that defensive front. 136 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: And I think it's it's plain at day that it's 137 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: having a big time impact, absolutely having a big time 138 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: impact for them. Um. The way that they play is 139 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: just so different, um in terms of the way they 140 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: used to play. Like on defense, when I look at 141 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: them on defense, they play a dominant fashion. They're they're 142 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: doing a good job of corral and to run so 143 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: they can unleash the pass rushers of late. But the 144 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: pass rushers that they've gone out and get you talking 145 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: about press really, Saidarius Smith, he has been able to 146 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: be a difference maker upfront. And then the investments, the 147 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: resources that they've committed to the back end, those guys 148 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: are showing up. We're seeing their young guys show up 149 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: and play man coverage and do those things. And we'll 150 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: talk about this later. Maybe we'll talk about to day. 151 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: Maybe we talked about it down the line. To be 152 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: able to play effective coverage in today's league, you have 153 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: to be able to play man coverage. UM. That was 154 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: very evident in that game. We saw the Detroit Lions 155 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: walk up and play a ton of man demand. They 156 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: did it without pressure for man fronts max coverage. But 157 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: everyone is playing man the New England Patriots being successful 158 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: because they're playing man demand, the Green Bay Packers playing 159 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: more man demand. So there are some observers that are 160 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: talking about interceptions being down, and that's naturally going to 161 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: happen because when you play more man demand, your back 162 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: is to the quarterback when you're a defender. But it's 163 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: going to change the way that we evaluate dbs um. 164 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: The Tampa two corner is gonna go by the wayside. 165 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: And if you don't have the skills to be able 166 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: to lock up a man demand not only is a 167 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: bumper run corner, but being able to play it from off, 168 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a tougher time finding a way up 169 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: the board because I think more teams are realizing the 170 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: only way to stop this impressive slater quarterbacks that are 171 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: playing in the league, you gotta make them throw in 172 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: the tight windows. And the only way you can do 173 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: it as a man coverage. If you can't run at 174 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: the corner position, you have a tough time playing time 175 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: playing I think, I think to the I think to 176 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: the movie Taken, and I think of wide receivers before 177 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: the snap saying I've spent a lot of time acquiring 178 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: a certain particular set of skills, and if you can't run, 179 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: I will find you and I will kill you. And 180 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: that's exactly what happens. I find. We talked about wal though, right, 181 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: that's our whole thing. We've been saying it for four 182 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: or five years. You better not have a wal though 183 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: out there, because if you want to play, man, you've 184 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: got somebody that can't run. They are gonna identify him 185 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: and they are going to wear him out. And I've 186 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: seen I don't know if you if you look on 187 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: that next Gen Stats where they do the shot charts 188 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: for quarterbacks, yes, it's funny, man, because if you look 189 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: at a lot of teams that play corners on left 190 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: and right. Um, you will see the shot chart and 191 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: it is tilted and you can say, okay, well I 192 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: know who their corner they want to go after. I mean, 193 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: the whole shot chart is the one side or the other? 194 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: Look DJ, that is uh, the league that I stepped into, 195 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: the league that I played in the nineties. That's that's 196 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: how it was in practice. When you had your scout team, 197 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: they was set up. The guy who was the target, 198 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: he would wear the yellow jersey and everyone would know 199 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: that that is the side of the field that we're 200 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: working on. And I believe that we talked about everything 201 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: being cyclical. Just like we're seeing more teams go back 202 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: to two back football or two tight end sets, we're 203 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: seeing the league come back around and what teams are doing, 204 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: what offensive coordinators are doing, and with the assistance of 205 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: scouting departments and some of the analytics, teams are going 206 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: after selected guys. Yep. No. And I think the other 207 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: part of this it's kind of interesting, is that it's 208 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: it's never been more difficult for an offense to get 209 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: away with pick routes and rub routes. I know you see, um, 210 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: you know you see it here and there, but it's 211 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: it's more difficult to get away from that. He gets 212 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: called too much, so that some of the some of 213 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: the beaters, some of those man beaters that you have 214 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: a little more difficult now because of the way that 215 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: it gets called so closely in the in the interference 216 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: and the trend that I'm seeing in man coverage. What 217 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: used to be uh DJ where people would play uh 218 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: banjo or switch coverage, meaning that if you have a 219 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: couple of g as in close proximity, UH, the corners 220 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: would kind of back off and the guy that was 221 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: lined up inside would take the first guy to shows inside. 222 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: The guy that's on the outside would take the outside release. 223 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: Where now what teams are doing, because we've seen the 224 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: Patriots due just for years, UH, there's no switching. Whoever 225 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: you're locked on, you're locked onto them, and then you 226 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: spend all of your time in the off season and 227 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: in summer learning how to fight through, learning how to 228 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: get at different levels. Because when you don't switch, it 229 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: actually plays to the defensive advantage because you're less likely 230 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: to have these communication errors. Everyone knows exactly who they're on, 231 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: and it prevents the the things that offensive coordinators can 232 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: do to manipulate those banjo and switch calls to create 233 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: favorable opportunities for the quarterback. Now, I I think it's 234 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: a great point. And you look at the the way 235 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: that the league just kind of circles all back around. 236 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating for somebody like yourself who entered 237 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: the league in the late nineties, uh, to look up 238 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: and turn on the tape and realize, oh my gosh, 239 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: I feel like I've gotten a time machine here. So crazy, 240 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: it is so crazy the way that is it is 241 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: coming back around. But yeah, it's it's coming back full circle. 242 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: And um, it's one of those things where, uh, we've 243 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: talked about it, man, I don't know how many times 244 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: we have imployed and told young athletes who are standing 245 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: in the wide receiver line at your respective high school 246 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: and you're the fifth, sixth and seventh wide receiver on 247 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: a team that plays four wides, if you would just 248 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: walk on the other side of the line of scrimmage 249 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: and tap your coach and say, I would love to 250 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: play cornerback and could you please teach me. You have 251 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: an advantage, especially if you are one of those athletes 252 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: that is right around six ft five ten to six 253 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: one or two. If you will walk yourself over to cornerback, 254 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: and if you will commit the time and energy to 255 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: mastering the skills backpedal breaking, drive, turn and run playing 256 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: the ball, you will have an opportunity, not on to 257 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: play beyond high school, but you have an opportunity to 258 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: be a top pick. Because you talked about what everyone 259 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: is looking for. Athletes that can run and that are 260 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: skilled at the process will have an opportunity to play. 261 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: Those are the guys that have to play cornerback, and 262 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: so there's a huge opportunity out there for you guys. 263 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: I know everyone's fascinated with the ball, but if you 264 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: go play cornerback, you have has to play. Go do 265 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: it well. Look that's uh. I think that's a great 266 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: message for youngsters out there. Go go on the defensive 267 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: side of the ball. I don't want to switch topics 268 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: here for a second. Here, Buck, I wrote down here 269 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: scrambling runs versus quarterback design runs. And the reason I 270 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: did that UM talked a little bit about on the 271 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: aftermath the other day. But I went back and when 272 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: you watch those Lamar Jackson runs last week, he ran 273 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: right through the Cincinnati Bengals, but there were nineteen carries. 274 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: So I went back and studied him and first of all, 275 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: eliminate three because there's three kneel downs. So that really sixteen. 276 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: So you're talking about sixteen runs for Lamar Jackson in 277 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: this game. Sixteen runs. Thirteen were designed quarterback runs, some 278 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: variation of his own read pretty much on all of them. Um, 279 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: so thirteen of the sixteen were designed runs. Ten times 280 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: in those sixteen runs, he was tackled to the ground. Okay, 281 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: So that to me is a formula that's not sustainable. 282 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: And when you look at the what you had three scrambles, 283 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: so now you're talking about just their past plays. He 284 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: sees yardage, he goes and gets it. On those three scrambles, 285 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: he ran for fifty three yards. He did not get 286 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: hit on any of them. Because when you scramble, you 287 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: have open space. Everything's the defense has been able to expand. 288 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: As you're dropping back. You can find space, you can 289 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: take it. Then you can find grass, or you can 290 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: find the sideline. You get down, you can get out 291 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: of bounds, you can you can protect yourself. And when 292 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: you go back and watch Russell Wilson, I think this 293 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: last game he ran it ran the ball like nine 294 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: or ten times, and I think maybe two of them 295 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: were design quarterback runs, maybe two or three at the most. 296 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: But he used his athletic ability to scramble, and he does, 297 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: as we've seen four years, Russell does a phenomenal job 298 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: of protecting himself when he's a scrambler. So I get 299 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: I think you can sprink Lynn a couple of those 300 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: design quarterback runs throughout a game. A couple of them. 301 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: To me, I would say five would be the number 302 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: that I wouldn't want to go beyond. And then I 303 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: would encourage Lamar. Look, we're gonna take some of these 304 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: design quarterback runs off your plate, but we're gonna encourage you. Man. 305 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: If you see if you're dropping back and you see space, man, 306 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: don't hesitate, go take it. But just promise me you're 307 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: gonna protect yourself. But I just look at the formula here, Buck, 308 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: of of thirteen design runs at a sixteen and getting 309 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: tackled to the ground ten times, I do not think 310 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: that's gonna last. Yeah, I I definitely understand your worry 311 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: and concern because if if ten of those runs are 312 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: ended and tackled, UH plays where he's taken to the ground, 313 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: I would worry about that. I think some of it, 314 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: really though, depends on the kind of tackles and how 315 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: he was hit. I think the one thing that Lamar 316 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: Jackson has done, he's done a better job of taking 317 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: himself to the sideline. UM A lot of times when 318 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: you're going towards the sideline, you don't take as violent 319 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: of a blow as you would inside. I think the 320 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: other thing that the Baltimore Ravens have done. In college, 321 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: you will see quarterbacks run in between the tackles. UH, 322 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: You'll see inside quarterback powers. You'll see the counter kind 323 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: of come inside, and there are more bigger bodies because 324 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: you have the defensive lineman and you have the linebackers 325 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: that are really used to dealing with running back. So 326 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: the blows that they uh issue out a little more 327 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: significant and violent. What Baltimore has done is they've made 328 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: him an edge runner, they made him an off tackle runner, 329 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: they made him a sweep runner. And what they've done 330 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: is the play that they were running repeatedly against Cincinnati, 331 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: it was fake inside zone and then they would pull 332 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: and lead with two guys coming around the corner. So 333 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: he almost essentially was was like the president. He had 334 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: uh secret service escorting them around the corner, which are 335 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: kind of design runs that you like. Really this boils 336 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: down to and I think we can throw Deshaun Watson 337 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: into the category Deshaun Watson and he's running the shoun. 338 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: Watson's runs are primarily scrambles. The touchdown run that he 339 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: had to kind of win the game was an impromptu 340 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: run where look, man, go be an athlete, go make 341 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: a play, and he avoided a big hit when he 342 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: spun inside. I was worried when he spunned he was 343 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: gonna meet up and spin into a smack. But he 344 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: just has it. When we are evaluating these quarterbacks in college, 345 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: and so we all are in the room, it's the 346 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: scouts and the coaches in the offensive coordinator, I think 347 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: it's really important that the offensive coordinator understands the running 348 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: game that the scrambling quarterback or to do a three 349 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: quarterback plays in and he tries to mirror what he 350 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: did in college while protecting him. I think the Baltimore 351 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: Ravens have done a really good job of putting Lamar 352 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: Jackson in a situation where he doesn't take the heavy 353 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: blows and that has enabled him to be a guy 354 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: that is dangerous. But you're right, nineteen runs are a 355 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: lot six team runs. It only takes one. Yeah, just 356 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: it only takes one. And there's times where he gets 357 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: bent and tugged and old. I'm just saying, look, Russell Wilson, 358 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: if I'm the Baltimore Ravens, that is my north star. 359 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: I mean, that is that that is who I'm trying 360 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: to emulate. That's what I'm trying to build my offense around. 361 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: And he we see it every week. Russell Wilson makes 362 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: plays with his legs, impact plays with his legs. But 363 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: it's just kind of more organic. You know, it's not 364 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: it's not designed, it's just organic. And he just lets 365 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: you know there's it's kind of in case of emergency, 366 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: you break the glass. And he does that. He does 367 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: it eight to ten times a game, and it's very effective. 368 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: I just even when you're even on on some of 369 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: those own rates where he's getting outside the tackle box 370 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: a lot of times where he still tries to cut 371 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: it up. He's not running out of bounds and oh, 372 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, when you get pulled back and you're 373 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: twisted and turned at that position and the way they're 374 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: committed to him and the way they're committed to playing 375 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: this way. I love, we love Trace McSorley. Um, you know, 376 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I just don't want to seem 377 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of resurgence there. I don't want to 378 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: see him, man, I don't. I don't think. I think 379 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: this offense has been custom made for Lamar Jackson, and 380 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: I think this team has been custom built for Lamar Jackson. 381 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: I want to make sure I see him sixteen weeks. Yeah, 382 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: you're like, you like to do that. Now, there's always 383 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: a risk, like with all these quarterbacks, because we saw 384 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: Nick Foles and some of these guys get hurt in 385 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: the pocket. But what you're trying to do is minimize 386 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: the risk. I think it is a conversation with the 387 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: offensive coordinate and the quarterback where, uh, the offensive coordinator 388 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: has to understand, like, look, we would like to kind 389 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: of keep his runs to a number that number maybe eight, 390 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: eight to ten runs per game. But you know if 391 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: I say eight to ten, that means look, five desire 392 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: quarterback runs and then he has his allotment of scrambles 393 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: that he can throw in. And then that the conversation 394 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: that you have with the quarterback is look, get what 395 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: you can get down or get out of bounds one 396 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: or the other, but you cannot take hits. We don't 397 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: want the extra yard. We want you to get as 398 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: much as you can and DJ. While we're on this topic, 399 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: I think it kind of brings us to and we 400 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: hadn't had this on the thing. I think it brings 401 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: us to a conversation that we probably should have about 402 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: Cam Newton and what Cam Newton should be or could 403 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: be when it returns. We have seen the Carolina Panthers. UM, 404 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: I wait to hear your answer on this one. We've 405 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: seen the Carolina Panthers win four games is four games 406 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: in a row. With cal Allen at quarterback. UM, the 407 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: offense has transformed to one that was built around Cam 408 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: Newton to one that is now built around Christian McCaffrey. 409 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, to me, is their franchise quarterback. Everything is 410 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 1: about Hey, we gotta figure out a way to get 411 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: twenty to the ball, and everything around them are the 412 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: complimentary pieces. Cayl Allen has become the perfect joystick for 413 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: North Turner. North Turner basically calls a play, he plays 414 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: it like it's a video game. I want the ball 415 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: to go here, here, and there, and cayl Allen is obliging. 416 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: Cam Newton, however, can't play that way. Cam Newton can't 417 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: be a joystick where in the passing game you can 418 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: count on him to deliver. So when Cam Newton comes back, 419 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: my mind is what do we want this offense to 420 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: look like? Nanda Cam returns. We've been very successful with 421 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey playing a certain way. Cam Newton, however, can't 422 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: play like cal Allen has played. So do we have 423 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: a conversation with Cam Newton that we understand who you are. 424 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: You're basically a single wing quarterback. You are dual threat, 425 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: and we're gonna ride you to the wheels fall off, 426 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: meaning you're gonna run the ball, you cann do all 427 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: those things that you've done, and at some point it's 428 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: going to end and we're fine with that. Is he 429 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: willing to accept that or is he stuck in his 430 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: ways and he's going to try to play the game 431 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: like cal Alan where he's not good enough. He's not 432 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 1: accurate enough as a passer to effectively do that. I 433 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: am fascinated by what the Carolina Panthers are going to 434 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: do because you talk about your m v P quarterback 435 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: that got to lead you to the super Bowl. Can 436 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,959 Speaker 1: you have a conversation where you say, either play this 437 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: way or we have to play the other guy. I 438 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: have no idea what you do if you're Ron Riverae. Well, 439 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: and you're in Ron Rivera's shoes here, you've got a 440 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: relatively new owner. Um, you're trying to win football games 441 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: and save your job. So I mean, I imagine Cam's 442 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: gonna Cam's gonna get his job back. But Buck, if 443 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: they lose, you know, a couple of games, I'm not 444 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 1: I'd be it'll be weird if he's healthy and got hooked. 445 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: But I don't anticipate them, you know, waiting too long 446 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: if things are not going well once he's reinserted in 447 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: the lineup. Because they've proven they have a formula that 448 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: wins with Kyle Allen, I mean they do so. So 449 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: here here's the thing, DJ, so like, that's too hard 450 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 1: to imagine. But let's let's let's put your the general manager. 451 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: Let's do you the general manager? You and m already 452 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: or any of the Carolina Panthers and your face with 453 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: this dilemma, and let's just just know that Cam Newton 454 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: is on the books next year for nineteen million, but 455 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: only two of that is guaranteed. Okay, so you're sitting 456 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: here maybe with I don't know, eighteen nineteen million and 457 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: surplus money potentially if you elect to move on from Camping. 458 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: You're looking at the way this team is constructed. You 459 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: have Christie McCaffrey, you have a defense that's playing lights out. Um, 460 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: you could have eighteen million dollars to play with if 461 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: you move on from Cam new knowing that, Look, cal 462 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: Allen has a seiling. I'm not saying that cal Allen 463 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: is a franchise quarterback or anything like that, but we 464 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: have seen man teams have been really successful with a 465 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: cheap quarterback and distributing the money to other areas. What 466 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: do you do, DJ, Well, it's not even just that, 467 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: It's not even just that buck. It's it's you're dealing 468 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: with a ticking time bomb. Because Cam Newton, because of 469 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: the way he plays, has a shelf life. You can't 470 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: even as big and as strong as he is. We've 471 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: talked about it before, you can't play that reckless and 472 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: he even recognized it because he's tried to change his game. Unfortunately, 473 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 1: in changing his game, he's not as impactful in playing 474 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: in a new style, in a new way to try 475 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: and protect himself. So I'm gonna end up with a 476 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: quarterback who if if he has to play a certain 477 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: way for us to win games, but playing that way 478 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: is gonna put him in harm's way and I don't know, 479 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: he could be heard. It could be one game, two 480 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: games a year. You don't know when that time is coming, 481 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: but it's coming, or we're gonna make him do something 482 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: where he's not totally comfortable and hasn't been as effective 483 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: and impactful, and I'm gonna have to pay him a 484 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: bunch of money. Um So, in my opinion, there is 485 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: pressure on Cam to come back, win football games, show 486 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,239 Speaker 1: that you can win football games and stay healthy for 487 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: the remaining stretch of the season, because they're a whole 488 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: host of reasons for them to move on and there 489 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: aren't quite as many for them to stay with him. Okay, 490 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 1: So I think that's a very valid point. So I'm 491 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: gonna go and I would say this because I think 492 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: this will also pertain to Lamar Jackson. Let's just say, 493 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: like when you take a Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore 494 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: Ravens are all in. They said that they believe they 495 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: can revolutionize the way that teams draft, evaluate and kind 496 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: of build their teams in this this vein. So let's 497 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: just say Lamar Jackson is your quarterback, and at some 498 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: point you're gonna have to pay Lamar Jackson. Do you 499 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: pay Lamar Jackson and value Lamar Jackson like you value 500 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: Jered Goff and all the other quarterbacks like Russell Wilson 501 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: and the like, or do you value him at a 502 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: lesson note because the risk potentially may be greater because 503 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 1: he's running and scrambling. And if you value him at 504 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: a lesser note, does that mean every other year that 505 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: we need to go and try and find a lesser 506 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: version of Lamar Jackson, maybe in the third or fourth round, 507 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: so we can stockpile our team so that when we 508 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: play this way, we know, oh yeah, it's cool. But 509 00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: these guys become more position players as opposed the franchise quarterbacks. 510 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: Or are we saying a Lamar Jackson, when you get older, 511 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna then ask you to change your style, which 512 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: isn't going to necessarily play to your strength. Well, look, 513 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: I think Lamar can throw it better than a lot 514 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: of the you know, dual threat quarterbacks that come out 515 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,239 Speaker 1: year after year. I think he's his more advanced as 516 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: a pastor, and the hope for me is that he's 517 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: going to continue to grow and advance in that area 518 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: where you end up having a situation where you know, 519 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson early on is made moving around a little 520 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: bit more than he is later in his career. You're 521 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: hoping he's gonna advance. I personally, I'd like to be 522 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's agent for his second contract. That would not 523 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: like to be his agent for his third, because I 524 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: think he is. I think they will look at and say, okay, 525 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: this is about a nine ten year window right to 526 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: play this way, and and I think he will get paid, 527 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: uh in line with some of those other premier quarterbacks 528 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: on his next contract. I just don't know, as so 529 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: many of these quarterbacks we see playing in their mid 530 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: to late thirties that have been able to get multiple contracts, 531 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: I don't know that we're gonna get to that point 532 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: in time. Okay, so let's say, like I mean, we're 533 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: way way off a the weeks, but I'm just fascinated 534 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: about this conversation. So let's just say that, Like, let's 535 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: just say, then, then when we look at these athletic quarterbacks, 536 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: because Cam Newton is in year ten, maybe I think 537 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: he's in year ten. So let's just say, look, okay, 538 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: so now that we're about that's about that time. Okay, 539 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: So now that we look at that DJ from a 540 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: team building standpoint, would you be okay? Like, based on 541 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: how Cam played at his best, would you be okay? 542 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: If I told you like, look, I can give you 543 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: ten years of Cam Newton or Lamar Jackson at his best, 544 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: but in your okay? So So so that's the thing 545 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: because I do think like what Tom Brady and Drew 546 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: Brees and even Roethlisberger and Rivers have done, they've kind 547 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: of seduced us into thinking, like the quarterback position has 548 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: to be a fifteen to twenty year position. And I 549 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: just wonder is that the right way to kind of 550 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: think about the quarterback position when we're trying to build 551 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: a championship team each and every year. I think that Look, 552 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: for a long time, we saw quarterbacks once they got 553 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: into the early thirties fell off a cliff and we 554 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: saw their level of play can just drop in a 555 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: big way. And now with the way these guys are 556 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: able to take care of their bodies, these guys play 557 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: from the pockets, so they've been able to preserve themselves 558 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: beyond that. But I don't I mean, I don't think 559 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: there's anything wrong. It's all gonna be about what the 560 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: college game has given you, you know, with the with 561 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: the seven on seven culture, the elite eleven culture that 562 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: you know, also well, we should be producing more talented quarterbacks. 563 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: Colleges are throwing it more than they ever have. So 564 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: if the college game can keep giving you supply, um, 565 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: to me, there's gonna be you know, for lack of 566 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: a better phrase, you're not gonna have a gun to 567 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: your head to continue to sign these quarterbacks into the 568 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: midden late thirties, because there's gonna be more coming down 569 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: the pipeline. But that to me has all to do 570 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: with the supply that the college game has given you. 571 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: And I think you'll see teams because of the financial 572 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: uh situation, and that could change in the next CBA, 573 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: but as it is right now, it's just more financially 574 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: beneficial to try and use them up for that maybe 575 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: given that second contract, you get to that nine ten 576 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: year market and then let's flip it over and let's 577 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: go get another cheap one. You know it is that, 578 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: but you know it's money. I'm surprised that we haven't 579 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: heard a general manager go on record and say that, like, hey, look, man, 580 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: this this position because the money that we're sinking into 581 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback position, if they're not uh Brady Brees Rogers, man, 582 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: it's killing us. Like just imagine because we've seen this 583 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: and and and this is kind of relevant. Marcus Mariota 584 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: and Jamis Winston, both of these franchises likely have to 585 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: move on from that because the prospect of paying we 586 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: will call it an average quarterback thirty million dollars just 587 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: because they take the snap. How do you You can't 588 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: do that, You can't do that? Well, how do you 589 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: do it? Not only just looking at the books, but 590 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: how do you do it in the morale in the 591 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: locker room when everyone is looking over saying, and this 592 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: guy isn't even our best player and we're paying him 593 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: to carry the franchise. I just think it's hard. I 594 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: think the guy who has the courage to be like, 595 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: oh no, no, we're not paying that, like we're we're 596 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: just move on. We'll just continue to cycle these out. 597 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: Of course, your coaching has to be able to deal 598 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: with the young quarterback and get them ready to play. 599 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: I do believe it could be a better long term 600 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 1: model to go that route as opposed to a man, 601 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: we're just gonna continue to pay the quarterback and just 602 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: pay average quarterbacks a bunch of money to can to 603 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: whole be placeholders. They might not be having that discussion publicly, 604 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: but I guarantee you they're having that discussion privately, and 605 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: it's gonna see who has the courage to be the 606 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: first one to move on. Um Man, We'll see what happens, 607 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: all right. I want to keep this thing moving here. 608 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: A couple more things we can hit, and then we'll 609 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: save the let's save the college talk. We're gonna talk 610 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: about a couple of college players a little bit at 611 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: the end of this episode. We'll save that for for 612 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: Thursday's show. Um but I do want to talk about 613 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: off the radar head coaching candidates because I was thinking 614 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: about this. One of these names came up in a 615 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 1: conversation the other day, and then um I came up 616 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: with the other one. But you know, we kind of 617 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: know who the names are. You know who the coordinators 618 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: are in the NFL, the hot coordinators, guys that have 619 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: been head coaches before. You know, McCarthy's out there, um, 620 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: but off the radar like that, would you know Cliff 621 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: Kingsbury esque where I think we would raise an eyebrow 622 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: and go, whoa hey, never thought about that. I've got 623 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: to okay, all right ready, how about we've seen Cliff 624 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: Kingsbury get fired as a college coach, hired as a 625 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: coordinator at USC and then immediately hired as the head 626 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: coach of the Arizona Cardinals. How about someone who's a 627 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: college offensive coordinator who doesn't have head coaching experience. And 628 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: Joe Brady the way he's turned around that L s 629 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: U offense. Now, if you think about it, Joe Brady, 630 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: where did he come from buck before we went to 631 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: L s U? Or Saints around Sean Payton? Who? Who 632 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: is Sean Payton tight with Bill Parcels. He's a Parcels disciple. 633 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: Who's the who is one of the main voices that 634 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: all these owners go to when they're trying to get 635 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: names for coaches. It's Bill Parcels. I'm just telling you 636 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: there's somebody that NFL is gonna say he this system works. 637 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: It works at the NFL level. We see it with 638 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: the Saints. He's obviously completely transformed L s U s team. 639 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: Now we've got to make sure we pair him up 640 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: with an experience, veteran defensive Cord Nader in the NFL. 641 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: But we we have seen this league is obsessed with bright, 642 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: young offensive minds, and it's about being around the right people. 643 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: You know, Sean McVeigh, Doug Peterson, whoever, Sean Payton is 644 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: one of those bright minds. This guy's calling plays, doing 645 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: a phenomenal job. So he's got scheme. He's come from 646 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: a good culture. Um, that to me is a little 647 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: bit off the radar. I think people would say, WHOA 648 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: what in the world? How did that? You know? How 649 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: did he go from coordinator L s U to head 650 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: coach in the NFL. I think that's where the future 651 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: is headed, man, I really do. I don't think that 652 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: would shock me. Now, that's a good call, because I 653 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: had a chance to watch all this year this weekend, 654 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: and you're right. This offense, this offense is like nothing 655 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: that I've ever seen down in Death Valley. The way 656 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: that L. S U is thrown around it is the 657 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: offense that is a guss in for all the athletes 658 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: that they've had. Can you imagine if they had this 659 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: offense when they had Jarvis Landry and Odell Beckham Jr. 660 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: Can you imagine the guys that have played down to 661 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: the play that have played to skill positions at l 662 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: s U and what they could have been doing with 663 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: those guys. I mean, this is a I mean, I 664 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: don't want to call it the Big twelve offense, but 665 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: is Big twelve like in terms of the way the 666 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: ball comes out. Joe Brady is a very interesting UM 667 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: candidate because you talked about the Sean Payton connection and 668 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: who he's been touched by. Sean Payton obviously is respected 669 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: as an NFL UH guru. UH. The way he develops 670 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: offenses down at UH New Orleans has been terrific. We've 671 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: seen to work to these done with Drew Brees were narrow. 672 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: Seeing what he's done with Teddy Bridgewater. That is a 673 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: terrific guy that kind of be close to. But also 674 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: Joe Brady was next to UH Joe Moorehead who was 675 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: the head coach at Mississippi State while he was at 676 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: Penn State, so he has seen this RPO game and 677 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: how to get your top running back off how to 678 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: take your quarterback and do some of the red game, uh, 679 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: and do the re game without the running component. So 680 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: now we've talked earlier in the podcast about these new 681 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: school quarterbacks that could be coming into the league that 682 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: can run it or scramble to have a coordinator who 683 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: has the knowledge of Hey, man, whatever you give me 684 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: a quarterback, I can figure out a way to build 685 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: an offense that elevates his game. That is something. And 686 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: you're right, looks around him with the right defensive coordinator 687 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: and and that stuff. Man, that is a terrific name. 688 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: And you're talking. No one has talked about him on 689 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: the pro level because everyone is fascinated by Lincoln Robley. 690 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: I know where he's gonna go. Everybody's talking about, Man, 691 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: is he gonna get a you know, coaching jobs? He 692 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: go to Michigan State, if they make a change, you know, 693 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: he'd be in the mix of some of these other jobs. 694 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying, forget college, man, this guy's got in. It's 695 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: some NFL experience. So I wouldn't be surprised NFL teams 696 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: kicking tires on him. Now. Now he's thirty years old, 697 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: Buck thirty years old, and I want to balance things 698 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: out because that's my one surprise candidate. So I've gotten 699 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: young my next one. If Herm Edwards decides, you know what, 700 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: oh get one more craps, turn around Arizona State sixty 701 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: five years old. Her matter is not that old. Sixty 702 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: five years old. Man, I think you hire him. You're 703 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: a team that you feel like you're ready to win 704 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: right now. You come in there like to me, I 705 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: look at a team and we'll see what happens. Hopefully 706 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: we're not here to tell about, you know, hoping people 707 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: lose their jobs. But let's talk about a team right now. 708 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: This is gonna lead us into our next topic here, 709 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: which you'll get to in a minute. Her medwords with 710 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. That boy you talking about language right now, DJ, 711 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: because you've got a window. You've got a window with 712 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: your quarterback of you know, four or five years Herm 713 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: sixty five. You figure HERM. We get in here, get 714 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: this thing rolling for the next four or five years. 715 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: That makes sense, DJ. That is that is tasty right there. 716 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: That's a nice little tasty treat. Like maybe we told 717 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: you I got a couple off the radar candidates for you. 718 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: Here's why Herm would be fascinating. Okay, so Herm has 719 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: gone that day and look all the snickers. I mean, 720 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 1: I think we even talked about it when he went 721 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: down to airs and say, oh, we're gonna use a 722 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: pro model, We're gonna do this, We're gonna do that. 723 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: He's the CEO type coach. He's will oversee the operation. Remember, 724 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: her has Marvin Lewis down there consulting and Marv Lewis. 725 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis is coaching the coaches. And so one of 726 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: the things in this league where we're seeing a huge 727 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: advantage the experience coaches now having an advantage over the 728 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: young coaches that are giving these jobs. We're seeing how 729 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and some of the older guys are running 730 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: laps around these new coordinators that are still trying to 731 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: figure it out. Yeah, Pete Carroll too. So now with 732 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: Herm Edwards, who was successful not only with the Jets 733 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: but with the Kanda City chief now they both fell 734 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 1: apart at the end of his tenure. We've also seen 735 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: him now go to Arizona State and rebuild that. So 736 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: he definitely has a recipe that gets programs jump started 737 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: and elevated match make him with the Atlanta Falcons, who 738 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 1: they have a tremendous amount of talent. They have Julio 739 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: Jones and Matt Ryan and Calvin Ridley, and then their 740 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: biggest issue has been a defense. Their defense just for 741 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: whatever reason, it hasn't played up to par. We would 742 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: like to think that that is herms specially and expertise. 743 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: Wait wait say wait, wait who did you say? Who? 744 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: Who'd you say was helping her with Arizona State again? Oh? 745 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis. Marvin Lewis, Yeah, Mark maybe might want to 746 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: come defensive coordinators assistant or so ship head coach. Kind 747 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: of look at the defense and say what you want 748 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 1: to about Marvin and the way that it ended in Cincinnati. 749 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: I know he didn't win a playoff game. Uh five 750 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 1: playoff appearances one a handful of Division titles during that time. 751 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: They had a recipe for identifying selecting really good talent. 752 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: Say what you want to about the character and those 753 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: things you talk about in the Atlanta Falcons team that 754 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: needs something to get them back, right man, you play 755 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: matchmaker where Herman was? Yeah, that I think that is 756 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: a really really good picking one that certainly wasn't on 757 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: the radar, but one that could gain a little steam. 758 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: There you go, you got you have one for me, 759 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: Bucky on off the radar candidate for me. Man that 760 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: that one set me on my on my chops like 761 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: that that when that one, that one, that one kind 762 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: of that one kind of put me on my heels 763 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: that I don't know, but I would be fascinated by this. 764 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated because everyone is talking about Lincoln Riley, and 765 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley certainly deserves to be in the conversation. Lincoln 766 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: Riley has done a great job with three different quarterbacks. 767 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: You know else has done a really good job with quarterbacks. 768 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: How about the originator? How about Mike Leach up at 769 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: Washington State. Now, he's odd and he's quirky, and you 770 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: don't know if he can necessarily kind of handle all 771 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: of the other stuff. But there's never been anyone better who, 772 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: year after year is able to take a quarterback and 773 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: get him going. Garner Minsho, who is having success in 774 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: the league. That's one of his products. We've seen him 775 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: do it with a cast of characters up there. I 776 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 1: do wonder if everyone is fascinated by the air raids system. 777 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: That Cliff Kingsbury running, Oh, who coach Mike Leach? That 778 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: Lincoln Raley is running at Oklahoma? Oh? Who did he 779 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: work upon the Mike Leach? I do wonder why no 780 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 1: one goes directly to the source Gundy and and say 781 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: hey Mike, but go to him, I think, and see 782 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: if he can do it. So he is one the 783 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: other guy and this isn't necessarily off the radar. But 784 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly and what he's done and Notre Dame. Okay. 785 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: So Brian Kelly the last couple of years has become 786 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: more of a CEO type coach. He has brought in 787 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: different coordinators and allow them to you things. He is 788 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: turned out a really good host of offensive line prospects. 789 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: Where you're seeing Notre Dame, they play a physical brand 790 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,439 Speaker 1: of football that is similar to the style of play 791 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: that you play in the NFL. Now, you always wonder 792 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: from a personality standpoint, would he matchin what he mixed. 793 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: I think he absolutely could do it. I think he's 794 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: had an eye towards the NFL for a while. His 795 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 1: name has been brought up a few different times when 796 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: head coaching searches. I think the time could be right 797 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: for Brian Kelly to make that move if he is 798 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: empowered and if he is able to find a friend 799 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: that could come along and not only do the personnel, 800 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: but someone that is established that could help him kind 801 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: of acclimate to the game. I think Brian Kelly would 802 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: be a guy that I would I would pay close 803 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 1: attention to as an NFL head coaching candidate. No, I'm 804 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: with you. I think he'd be out Actually think he'd 805 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: be an outstanding NFL coach. You look at everywhere he's 806 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: been a different levels, he's always he's one. He's built 807 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: up sustainable, winning programs, and I think that's what you'd 808 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: want from an NFL standpoint. Don't forget that here, Mad 809 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: Rules good we we ran out of uh oh yeah. 810 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: Matt Rule would also be one. I mean, like, he's 811 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: not off the water. He's interviewed for jobs, but the 812 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: job that he's done in Baylor, what he's brought back, 813 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: the way he brought Temple back, the way baught Baylor back, 814 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 1: the way he is has some experienced in the National 815 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: Football League already. Matt Rule could be a guy. We've 816 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: seen him get hey coaching interviews. Matt Rule is also 817 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 1: a one that I would kind of put a little 818 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: star by. And I would also, you know, you know, 819 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: keep an eye on different jobs. If something did happen 820 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,720 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville and they made a change and Tom Coughlin 821 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: was still there, obviously has a connection there with Matt Rule, 822 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't rule I wouldn't rule that one out. Yeah. 823 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: I like that. Um, the uh real quick because we 824 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: kind of touched on this and in this conversation the 825 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: way it came out. But next year, San Francisco, a 826 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: team that's having a bad year, that could be a 827 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: very quick turnaround. And the benefit of having a bad year. 828 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: You get a top five pick, you've had a really 829 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: impactful player. And I think about the Atlanta Falcons and 830 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: I think about their lack of pass rush, and you 831 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: look at potentially having a top five pick to go 832 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: up there and get a big time pass rusher, get 833 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: it right this time, Um, that could really kind of 834 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: cure a lot of ails for this group. Get healthy, 835 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: get guys back on the defensive side of the ball, 836 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: get healthy on that offensive line. Um. To me, Atlanta 837 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: could next year could be very similar to what we're 838 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: seeing from San Francisco this year. A team that just 839 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: really flips the switch. Oh. Absolutely. We talked about it 840 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: briefly in the Herm Herm Edwards talk. Um. The thing 841 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: that is appealing about Atlanta they already have pieces. They 842 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: have pieces in place to talk about offensive Uh, set 843 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,760 Speaker 1: of weapons that they have Matt Ryan, uh, Julio, Kevin Ridley, 844 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: get Davante Frame. You got a young defense with talented 845 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 1: players for whatever reason, the piece of the puzzle having fit. Um, 846 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: they're intriguing because if you get them going the right way. Uh, 847 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: they certainly should be there. I think another team that 848 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: should be in the conversation, the Pittsburgh still is the 849 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Stiller should be there. You can get Ben Roethlisberger back, 850 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: and that offense is going to continue to evolve. I 851 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: think they actually better when they run the ball. James Connor, 852 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: Judrew Smith, Schuster and those things. But the reason why 853 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by them young players that they've assembled are 854 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: beginning to show up. Um, Devin Bush showing up as 855 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: a rookie playmaker looks to part uh t J. Watt 856 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: and the second year has still been a player that 857 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: is flashed dominance uh Mink and Fitzpatrick has been a 858 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: late edition, and I would love to see what he 859 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: looks like when he has a full their first round 860 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 1: pick and training camp. So when people talk about um 861 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 1: they don't have first time pay Oh, yes they do, 862 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: Mick and Fitzpatrick is their first round pick. The interesting 863 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 1: thing will be about the Pittsburgh Stillers. Is Mike Tomlin 864 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: there to orchestrate this and rebuild this team or as 865 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: somebody else, because we're hearing the conversation about Mike Tomlin 866 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: and potentially being linked up to the Washington Redskins. If 867 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin bounces, if they get the right coach in Pittsburgh, 868 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: what does that look like? How does that evolve to? 869 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 1: Is that the place where oh, Mike Munchett comes back 870 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh and re emerges as the guy that kind 871 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 1: of gets them going that physical run game. What he 872 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: was able to do as the offensive line coach, can 873 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: maybe he get them going. So I'm fascinated whether it's 874 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin or not. I expect the Pittsburgh still Is 875 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: to be back. In fact, I mean they could be 876 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: back this year on NANTA Day, kind of settling in 877 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 1: on the new I D. But yes, the Pittsburgh still 878 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: is DA Atlanta Falcons, two teams that could have San 879 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: Francisco forty niners like Renaissance. The last note there on 880 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: the Steelers I mentioned earlier, you know, talking about sack differential. Now, 881 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: this is a team that has a bad record, have 882 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,879 Speaker 1: had a bunch of injuries, but this is a team 883 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 1: that's plus fifteen and sack differential. They've got twenty sacks 884 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: on defense, They've only allowed five sacks, which means this 885 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: is a solid foundation on the offensive line and on 886 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: the defensive line. Now, again, they had another injuries to 887 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: fund two. It's gonna be down for the year after 888 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: tarrying is peck. But again, that is a team like 889 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: you're talking about Buck next year. Um, this is a 890 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: team all of a sudden boom, Ben Roethlisberger comes back 891 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: in their win team that would not surprise me. Surprise. Yeah. 892 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: They they have the pieces in place to be able 893 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: to get it going. And so, uh, you're right, they 894 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: deserve to be in the conversation. We need to continue 895 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: to talk about those teams, all right. Football is back. 896 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: Watch live local prime time NFL games for real season 897 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: along with Yahoo Sports app or the official app of 898 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: the NFL on your phone or tablet plus get all 899 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,479 Speaker 1: your latest breaking news, highlights and more. Download the NFL 900 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 1: app or you are Who Sports app in your app 901 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: store or at NFL dot com slash mobile today. Certain 902 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: restrictions and data rates may apply, uh buck. I do 903 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 1: want to encourage you everybody. If you have a question 904 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: for us, you can throw it in on the review 905 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: section there on Apple Podcast. Leave us a little review there. 906 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: Drop a question, will be uh happy to answer it 907 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: on our next episode. Anything else you want to hit 908 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: on before we get out here. That was cruel, man, 909 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: that was great. That was a little bit v. We 910 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 1: kind of took you. I took you off the tangent 911 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: a little bit. But now I thought the discussion is 912 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: a fastness. Sometimes sometimes when you're watching games, you just 913 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: kind of wonder, man, you know, I just wondered this. 914 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: I want to dak so to have that discussion, to 915 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: be able to talk about the quarterbacks and then uh 916 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: the coaches on the rise. That is the one that 917 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: I think we'll kind of probably have to revisit on Thursday, 918 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:50,760 Speaker 1: because I'm sure we get a lot of feedback on those. 919 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 1: I know they have that show. What is it called 920 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 1: like the Shop or whatever? Like's gonna sit in the barbershop. 921 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess that's like the barbershop. I 922 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 1: guess you could do like the like what with a 923 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: coffee shopping and I feel like you just kind of 924 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 1: sat down and just kind of just kind of chop 925 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: it up a little bit, you know what I mean, 926 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: like kind of different topics and have some fun. Yeah. No, 927 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: it was great. I loved it. That was That was 928 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 1: a great discussion. All right. Well, I appreciating the deal 929 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: with his efforts. They're producing the show and be on 930 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 1: the lookout. Another episode coming your way here in just 931 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: a couple of days. As we jumped back into the 932 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: college pool and look at somebody's NFL prospects that we've 933 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: been keeping our eye on. That's gonna do it for 934 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: today's Bucky Brooks. I'm Daniel Jeremiah. Catch you over next 935 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,919 Speaker 1: time right here on Move the Sticks. Thanks for downloading 936 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,919 Speaker 1: Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. For more, 937 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: go to NFL dot com Slash Podcasts.