1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Hey guys, what's up. It is 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Ashley I referring to myself as Ashley I, which some 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: people find really funny. Another thing that I find really 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: funny is talking to myself, So that is something I'm 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: not trying to do right now. Ben is not here, 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: but we are doing a special podcast from the Napa 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: Valley Wine Train, which is a pretty cool rain train 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: up here in Napa Valley. If you've never been to Napa, 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: which I hadn't until today, this is a really cool 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: way to get to know the area. It's like three 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: separate um cars, and there's like a dining car, there's 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: like a nice little like fancy, more relaxed car, and 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: then there's an outdoor car. And of course you get wine, 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: a lot of wine along the way, and you get 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: to look out on the beautiful vineyards. And it's definitely 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: something I'd highly recommend if you are going to go 18 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: visit Napa Sometimes. So while I am sitting here in 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: this makeshift studio that we have a you know, put together, 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: I have some friends from the Bachelor who are in 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: another car getting a little drunk. So I'm hoping that 22 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: there are some lucy goosey guests of mine today. We're 23 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: gonna start with Blake, the only guy that I don't 24 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: have questions for written out. But Blake's very easy because 25 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: I know what you guys want to hear from Blake about. 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: You want to hear about his rumored relationship with Christina 27 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: Shulman as of I feel like the fall, and you 28 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: also want to talk about how he feels about Hannah 29 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: g because he has been shipped with Hannah Ge like 30 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: none other, like I have never watched the show and 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: seeing two people that have possibly never met before but 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: have been shipped as hard as they are for this 33 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: upcoming season of Paradise. Maybe we'll get a hard answer 34 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: if he's going to Paradise, because it's the worst secret 35 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: in Bachelor Nation. So everybody, let's welcome Blake. Yeah, hello, 36 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: all right, Blake? What do you have there? What's in 37 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: your cup? I'd like to know what people are eating 38 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: at us in the cup. I don't know what the 39 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: stip is, like racota cheese in there. I don't know 40 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: the Italian way of saying ricotta is Rocota's okay? All right? Well? Great, um, 41 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: let's start out with some fun questions before I get 42 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: to all the shipping that you've had to deal with 43 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: over the past couple of months. How has the Bachelor 44 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: at changed your dating life? Like, I don't want you 45 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: to be like, oh my god, it's like I've gotten 46 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: I've gotten so many more d M and I've gotten 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: some like dirty picks. No, I want to know, like 48 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: how many girls you kissed this year? It's going for it. 49 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going to answer that. No. Well, I mean, 50 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: would you even know how you kept it tally? No? 51 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: I kept it tally of kisses my whole life. Remember this? 52 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: Did you remember? Yes? I remember this. Yes, it's a 53 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: full circle moment we're having right now because you know, 54 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: since we last asked you that question, or I talked 55 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: about my list, that was in September, and you know 56 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: that was when he really started to experience life dating 57 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: after the Bachelor, which so I'm wondering how many kisses 58 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: you wrapped wrapped up? No, I mean, listen, dating now 59 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: is it's hard. It's hard. I mean it's easy because 60 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: you know, obviously there's a lot more opportunities and as 61 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: you could say, but also it's it's hard. Like, I 62 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: remember I took a girl on a date one time, 63 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: um and people were taking pictures of me from across 64 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: the bar, you know, on a date with this girl. 65 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: And she was like, does this happen like all the time? 66 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, you know, like this is 67 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: something that you'd have to get used to, you know, 68 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: if if this was to happen. And then I remember 69 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: I asked her. I was like, did you tell your 70 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: friends that you were going on a date with me? 71 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: She's like I didn't. And I was like why and 72 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: she's like, I didn't. I felt like they judged me. 73 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: If you're going on a date with Blake from the 74 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: batch heads the cool thing, but that's the thing. She 75 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: didn't want it, so she said it because she didn't 76 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: want people to be like, all, the only reason you're 77 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: going with him is because he's Blake from the bat Serette. 78 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: So it just changed everything. Like she's like, like, normally 79 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: would you tell your friends that you're going to date 80 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: with somebody? And she's like, yeah, normally I would. She's like, 81 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: I didn't even know I was doing something different, but 82 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: it does. It changes everything. Chan it was actually an 83 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: old friend. It was an old friend from before the show. Yeah, no, 84 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: I don't get how did it happen? How did you 85 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: reconnect with an old friend? How did we reconnect? Actually, 86 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: I think it was just one of those We ran 87 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: in each other and I had always kind of had 88 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: a little crush on her, and so we went out. 89 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: That's cute, but the crush no longer exists. Didn't know, 90 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: I didn't really pan out, Like I like the way 91 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: that when Ben's not here, I will go full on 92 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: fan girl interview and I think it's fun every now 93 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: and then. Tell us something about you, Blake that is 94 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: off the norm of what we saw as your character 95 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: on the show. Like I don't want to say what 96 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: would be what would surprise people, but what my narrative 97 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: of the show, Like what because you were like kind 98 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: of this boy scout, But I don't really think of 99 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: you after like getting to know you a few in 100 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: a few different scenarios, like I think of you as 101 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: a boy scout anymore. No, that's that's actually exactly so, 102 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: And that's there's a lot of pressure coming off the 103 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: batcherette when you're casted or not cast But like your 104 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: narrative on the show is a boy scout, you know, 105 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: because it's hard because you feel like sometimes people look 106 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: at you and like expects you to be something that 107 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: you're not or better than who you are. And I mean, 108 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: I have my flaws and everything, you know, So yeah, 109 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: I definitely am not I'm not a boy scout um, 110 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: and I guess I mean I am sensitive like I 111 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: I do. I think I am. But I got that 112 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: narrative of I didn't seem like I was very seemed 113 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: like I was always in my head in the show, which, 114 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, it was really hard, hyper anxious, 115 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: I know, which is insane, which is insane. I kind 116 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: of want one of that. I eat while podcast and 117 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: thank you, I know, which is insane because if you 118 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: ask everybody that knows me, they're like, I'm very, very 119 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: laid back. But don't get me wrong, everybody reacts differently 120 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: in that vironment. So I get that I was don't 121 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: get me wrong, I was in my head, but I 122 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: wasn't not an anxious person, which is kind of funny. 123 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: Have you ever do usually respond to like a crumbling 124 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: relationship the way you did in the show, or did 125 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: you feel like you were even more out of control? Well, 126 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: but that's the problem at the time my larratio wasn't 127 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: crumbling with Mecca. So that's the issue is that is 128 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: that it wasn't crumbling at any point. Never did it crumble, 129 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: So at the end when it did happen, it was 130 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: hard because I didn't see it coming really, you know. 131 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: So that's made everything more difficult that it wasn't crumbling 132 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: at any point in your life. How many serious relationships 133 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: have you had? I would say two, okay, right after 134 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: college series two years, lived together everything, and then right before, 135 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: not right before the show about it, eight months, nine 136 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: months before the show, I thought I had found the 137 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: one that I was yeah, yeah, yeah. So those were 138 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: the two where I was like, this could be it. 139 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: This is a kind of thing. Okay, all right, Well 140 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: do you see your next serious relationship being with Hannah Gy? 141 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: You should just do? You know, you don't even need Ben. 142 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: I feel like you're asking way harder questions that I'm 143 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: I think I do ask harder questions with Ben here 144 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: because he like, he likes to be so nice and 145 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ask a politician. But that's why he's 146 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: good at this too. That's why he's good at this too. Yeah, um, 147 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: good question. No, I mean, no, listen, I am very 148 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm going in open minded to Paradise. Uh and I'm excited, 149 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: I think so, I'll be honest, who's being a politician now? Touche? 150 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: When they first cast. When I saw the cast of 151 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: Colton season, I was like, oh my god, they're all 152 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: very young. Yeah, oh my god, they're stunning. Yeah. But 153 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: but I'm looking for, you know, a wife and so 154 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, a serious relationship, and so when I saw 155 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: their ages and everything, I was kind of like, oh boy, 156 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: like I'm not even gonna go Paradise. But then once 157 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: I got to know them on the show, I was like, 158 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: you know what, I think there's a I'm not even 159 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: going to go to Paradise. Coming off the show, I 160 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: remember because that my mom was like, are you gonna 161 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: do Paradise? Was like, hell, no, no way I'm doing. 162 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: I think everybody has assumed that you're going to do 163 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: in Paradise since Colton was announced. Well, I mean, I 164 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: can't confirm it tonight. If I'm gonna do Paradise to night, 165 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: you can't. I wanted to get a confirmation today. No don't. 166 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: I haven't. No, like there's nothing, I haven't even had 167 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: any conversations. That's what's funny. Yeah, that's the best part 168 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: is like people like, yeah, people are like, oh, he's confirmed. 169 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, I haven't even had conversations. You mean you 170 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: haven't had conversation. I haven't. I haven't had conversations about 171 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: being on the base. All right, Does that make you worried? 172 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if that's a good 173 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: sign or a bead side. I don't know. Um, I 174 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: remember being worried for Bachelor in Paradise season three when 175 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: they were like reaching out to Carly and Dared and 176 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: then they didn't reached out to me. I know that 177 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: they've reached out to multiple people, but yeah, I haven't 178 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: really had any kind of conversations. I don't know if 179 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: they're waiting to see who's going. I don't know. Maybe 180 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: you're just such a shoe in that they're not even 181 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: thinking that they have to call you. I feel like 182 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: that's messed up, okay, but we have acknowledged respect. That's 183 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: the girls from this season are so pretty. They are 184 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: they are Paradise is going to be ye, which girl 185 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: were you like? Whoa? Oh you mean like they're like 186 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: cast photo type thing. What do you mean like I mean, 187 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: I want to know who the first time you saw 188 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: the cast pictures, and then who you were like, holy 189 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: damn when she stepped by the limo. Oh oh my gosh. 190 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: Actually I hate your question. I can eat while you think. 191 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: God you're right is a very studdying cats. But I 192 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: will be honest. Hannah GE's cast shoto. I remember being like, whoa, 193 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: the girl's gorgeous. I remember, I remember that moment. I 194 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: was like, holy cow, that chicks gorgeous. Um, there's a 195 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: lot of Kaylin. Remember her cast photo. I was like, 196 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: oh wow, um, but there's a lot. So that's the 197 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: thing too, because sometimes the cast photo will three off 198 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: our photos in general, and you seem in person, well yeah, 199 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: look at Jed from Hannis. These pictures were of These 200 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: were horrible pictures. You know, we went through, we went 201 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: through every guy and we gave a sentence on what 202 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: we hear that it was really fun. And then I 203 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: was like Jed not cute Jett and real I didn't 204 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: see him in real life, but Jett and the paparazzi 205 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: potures with like some mad swag. They did not There's 206 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: no justice for those guys. Those pictures were awful. So 207 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm waiting to see until I see them in person, 208 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: and I think it will change. Um, but if I 209 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: go to Paradise, if I just said to go to 210 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: Paradise unexcited. So you think Hannah Gi is really hot, 211 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: but you're open minded. I am going in very open 212 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: minded into Paradise. So you said earlier, the shipping that's happened, 213 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: I feel it's insane. Remember you saying when we were 214 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: in Connecticut it was insane, Like every fourth person was 215 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: liked Henery. Well, people are assuming that you guys are 216 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: already talking can be super honest, Like have you exchanged 217 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: a few little dms just about Like, Hey, isn't it 218 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: funny that people are shipping us so hard? Not d 219 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: M s. No, but I have met her for like 220 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: a good ten fifteen minutes. Yeah, isn't she super impressive? 221 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: Like not only is she just beautiful, but she also 222 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 1: has such an amazing personality. She's so refreshing to be around. No, 223 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: I was surprised. I was saying that I was surprised 224 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: to and I don't want to say that she didn't 225 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: come across ground on the show. She was getting it 226 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: out of the show. She wasn't on the show. I 227 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: have a theory that blowing. I have a theory that 228 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: they like edit her out of the show because then 229 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: people would have thought that Colton was wacky. I mean, 230 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: not that Cassie don't seemed great, but like it was 231 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: like Hannah Geees not only setting but like wants to 232 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: be with you and is so smart and and you know, 233 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: got this great personality. And but I also feel really 234 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: bad for her because she just got out, you know 235 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: how it is on the show, Like you get out 236 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: of the show and you're she was in a quote 237 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: unquote relationship with Colton that she had a fake and 238 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: then suddenly it's like, I know that's how bastination is. 239 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: But then suddenly she's like shipped back in another relationship. 240 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: So I feel bad for her. Let the girl live 241 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: live a little bit. So you did hang out, let 242 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: me play, okay, So you got her number that is 243 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: not okay? Um, and then there's somebody else who you 244 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: had sort of like a fling with. And I'm not 245 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: just saying this because like I know, but because like 246 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: pretty much everybody, yeah, you and Christina Shulman, like how 247 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: the flirtation, I'd say, was there a relationship. You want 248 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: to clarify things that happened with Christina Shelman now before 249 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: you see her in Paradise, And oh yeah, I definitely 250 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: think she's gonna be there. No, I mean we've talked 251 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: about this quite a few times. She talks about it 252 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: like we were hanging out. It was a very weird 253 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: point in my life, right, I'd like, just come off 254 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: the show, and I didn't realize, you know, how demanding 255 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: this is coming off the show, and how crazy the 256 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: schedule is and everything. And she's great. Um, you know, 257 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: we had we had, we had some good times, but 258 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: I just felt like at that time and just in general, 259 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, if you don't necessarily it would have worked. 260 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: And so we decided to and it was very it 261 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: was mutual, and it was like, we don't not like 262 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: each other, we don't hate each other, there's no bad 263 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: blood there. It was just kind of right now, this 264 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: timing and everything, it's just it's not right. So I 265 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: feel like sometimes that that happens, and I mean sometimes 266 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: I think that shared and I then it started happened there, 267 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: but we all know that that was meant to be 268 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: in the end. In this you make it seem like 269 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: it's not meant to be in the end, But when 270 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: we went into Paradise, I feel like emotions can be 271 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: heightened and even though you're like, oh it didn't work 272 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: out or like that was mutual, you get into Paradise 273 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: and then you're like, we're supposed if I love and 274 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: I love you, you you know environment Yeah, it's crazy. So, 275 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: like I wonder if there will be some drama there 276 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: if she does do it, and if you do do it, 277 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: I may maybe I don't. I mean, who knows. The 278 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: producers are magicians, so maybe make some drama out of that. 279 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I don't foresee it. Like I don't. 280 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm not scared, Like if she walks down the stairs 281 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: and be like happy to see, like, I'm not going 282 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: to be like, oh my god, shoot, you know she's here. No, 283 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: it'll be like that all. I'll be happy to see 284 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: her and everything. Um, there's no like I said, question 285 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: for you though, So I've been asking this, right, Yeah, 286 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: So what do you think is not like I said, 287 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: I honestly had no conversations yet, what do you think 288 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: it is better to be the original cast on Paradise 289 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: would be the first one down the stairs with a 290 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: date card. So I was in both situations for you. Yeah, 291 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: I was well the second girl in of the second bunch, yeah, 292 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: the first bunch of girls that were in the original cast. 293 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: And then I was also in the original cast. And 294 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: it is way better to be in the original that's 295 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: what everybody says. Okay, oh yeah, because I think some 296 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: people can really come in and like mess things up 297 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: if but I don't think that's in your Actually, there 298 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: might be like a lot of girls waiting for you, 299 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: so it may be great. If you're like the first 300 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: guy down there outside of the original cast, you probably 301 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: go in like day two. Yeah, it wouldn't be exactly two, 302 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: But everybody everybody's been saying original cast is a way 303 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: to go, like yes, because that you never want to 304 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: walk in and then see person that you planned on 305 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: going on a date with already pretty committed. That would 306 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: be hard. I like those little cream puff things, So yeah, okay, 307 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: get me another one of those and eastern leave that in. 308 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: All right, My one last discussion with you has to go. 309 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: It goes back to Christina. So there's this was it 310 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: from an email actually from Jordan's and she said there 311 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: was talk of Dean and Christina possibly being back on Paradise. 312 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but wasn't Blake and Christina somewhat 313 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: of an item coming off back of season? Hypothetically speaking, 314 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: Let's say Blake and Hannah g have been in communication 315 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: and then Christina shows up and this is not my 316 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: own words, this is Jordan's words, shows up with all 317 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: of her cleanness. I can see drama happening right now. Thoughts. 318 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: First of all, Christine is not clean. I'm gonna put 319 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: that out there. I know it's not your words, but 320 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: I know that ships. That's like they're I don't want 321 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: your reputation, But it doesn't like like I said, I 322 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: don't wouldn't be scared that she walked down and like 323 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: I would not be like, oh my god. You know, 324 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: if I'm in the relationship with anybody at that point, 325 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: or you don't have a connection with somebody, I don't 326 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: think she'd walk down and be like, oh no, she's 327 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: about starting to blow everything up. Like I wouldn't. Exactly, 328 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: you told me you wouldn't bring it up. They wouldn't 329 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: be like that. It wouldn't. I'm not. I wouldn't be 330 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: scared if she walked down the well just in defense 331 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: of Christina. Cleanness is really just you really like somebody, 332 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: you want to be with them. Yeah, especially on the show, 333 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: like they only show if you're really into somebody. They're 334 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: only going to show the part where you seeing cleaning 335 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: and then they're gonna put the music. But do don't 336 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: do do? Do? Don't do? Do? Do? Do? You talk 337 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: from experience? I think I know? 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How is that being a Bachelor contestant 385 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 1: with a nice normal job. So I was never looking 386 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: to to be on the show. Like I don't know 387 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: if I've ever heard my background behind all of this before, 388 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: but but my little sister like put my information in 389 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: and when they called me for the show, it's like 390 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: at work, and I thought I thought it was a 391 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: print call. It was. It was like this really pubblic 392 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: girl with this l a act. She was like, Hi, 393 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: this is Kelly from the Bachelor. Are you still single. 394 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: I was just like, uh, who is this awesome? So 395 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: I actually made her email me. I hung up there, 396 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: like it's like a telemarker. It's like when they called 397 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: me and they're like, actually I used this excuse on 398 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: the phone sular day and I couldn't believe it came 399 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: out of my mouth. I go, I'm sorry, Ashley, can't 400 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: come to the phone right now? Can I take a message? 401 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: You know? I used to answer the phone and be 402 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: like Derek's assistant, just a mess with people, and and 403 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: every once in a while with like telemarketers too. Yeah. Yeah, 404 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: so so I mean I think like I've always kind 405 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: of tried to seek um, like slipping away a little bit. 406 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: But you know it's so so I like that. I like, 407 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: I like um, I like doing a ninety five job. Honestly, 408 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: that's like, that's that's me. Yeah, I just it's just me. Yeah. 409 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes you need to excite, you know, 410 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: add a little excitement to your life. So you decide 411 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: to go on a date with Stephanie Pratt, who is 412 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: from The Hills um and the reboot of the Hills, 413 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: which airs in June. It seems like, wells, you're I 414 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: feel like it was your best he's your best friend 415 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: from the Bachelor franchise. He really is. Yeah, I mean 416 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: he's he will be in my wedding some day. And 417 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: he says that about me too, like where we are 418 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: real life, very great friends. Okay, that's nice. So he 419 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: set you up because he has a news but I know, 420 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: see that's like the kind of thing that have beends here. 421 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: He's like, now, let's take a moment to relish and 422 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: what a what a wonderful blessing this friend of this 423 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: and let's talk about the date you do a really 424 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: good ben. Thank you, thank you. I've done this enough 425 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: with them to know exactly what he would say in 426 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: the situation. Okay, So I think that Wells probably hooked 427 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: you up because he does the Pratt Cast with Stephanie Pratt. 428 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. And and were they looking for some fodder 429 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: to talk about on the show. I mean he didn't 430 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: really tell me much. He just, um, he just texted 431 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: me one day and I was like, hey, like, I 432 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: have I have an idea you should like you should 433 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: call me later. And then we called him on the 434 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: phone and he was like, listen, we want to do 435 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: this like fun thing with you where I think he 436 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: wanted to call me so he could convince me this 437 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: was not done over text. There are some things where 438 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: you like text your friend and be like, hey, when 439 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: do you have time to talk? Yeah, exactly and uh 440 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: and and he was he like he like walked all 441 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: around it. And finally I was like, well, it's just like, 442 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: what's what's going on? And um he was like, you know, 443 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: I just started to do this new podcast, and UM, 444 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: I think this girl would be like a really fun 445 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: date for you to go on, and also we can 446 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: hang out in that way. She's really pretty. She's super 447 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: fun too, actually, and she is very pretty. Yes, of course, 448 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: so you're actually on board the Napa Valley wine train 449 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: right now, and this is kind of your second date 450 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: or so wells like, so say your second date was 451 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: definitely because she's here as well. And I've been observing 452 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: you guys, it seems like you're having a pretty good time. Yeah. 453 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: I think she's like she has a super good sense 454 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: of humor. Um. One of the things that I was 455 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: like really unexpected they came like really unexpected from her, 456 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: was she like she really bust balls and I like that, 457 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: but like, actually it's it's hard for me to find 458 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: girls who appreciate that back, and that's like part of 459 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: my sense of humor and just like who I am. 460 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: And she really liked that she was. She kept telling 461 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: me how funny I was, and I was like, oh 462 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: my god, this is the greatest thing. Like nobody ever 463 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: tells me that I'm No girls ever tell me that 464 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm funny. Then then this is promising. Okay, so let's 465 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: just pretend like this goes somewhere very well. May then 466 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: you could have Spencer Pratt as a brother and Mom, 467 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: how would you feel about that? And did you used 468 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: to watch The Hills? Like do you don't even know 469 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: who Spencer Pratt is? So I really don't. Um, I 470 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: didn't watch the Hills. I did watch the Gunda Beach. 471 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: But then, like I think I was in college and 472 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: it just like they didn't have MTV on our schools 473 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: network or whatever. I went to school in Iowa. Okay, Okay, 474 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: my reason. So that was what my life would be 475 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: like with Chris Souls exactly. MTV list him last week 476 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: for the first Yeah, it was he so sweet, He's 477 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: very sweet. Does he seems like he's doing well? I 478 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: think he's Okay, we all care about it. I know 479 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's got a lot going on, but 480 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: but like I think he's doing he's doing all right. 481 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: He's he was fun and happy, so okay, well that's 482 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: good anyway. Um, yeah, Like I don't know much about 483 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: Spencer Bad. I know he's got an interesting rap. I 484 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: know he's a really funny guy though too. So I 485 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: mean honestly, I like don't really usually hold any um 486 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: grudges again people before I meet him, and even if 487 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: like I've had beef with people, I like, I'm I 488 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: don't know, I think again, it comes from my Iowa background, 489 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: like a similar to Ben Indiana. US midwesterners were just 490 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: like we seek the best in everybody. So we just 491 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: we just try to find ways to laugh and connect 492 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: with people. Um, so I'm sure it would be fine, 493 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: but maybe not. I'm you know, I live in New York. Now. Yeah, 494 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I was like, so you went 495 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: from are you went from Iowa to New York? How 496 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: has been the naturansition? Transition? Surprisingly easy? Are you in Manhattan? 497 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: Are you in a borough? I was? I was living 498 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: in Connecticut. I actually moved to Chelsea next week right 499 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: in the mix of everything. Oh, I'm like, I'm like, 500 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: that's that's the best. That's my favorite place of New York. 501 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: I'm like, I know people try to be cool and 502 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, the Lower East Village or you know, 503 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: trade Becca or Brooklyn, and I'm like, I just like 504 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: some Broadway and some reliable food. Yeah, I love Like 505 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: you ever watch How I Met Your Mother and they 506 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: make up like a Burrow that's Taoist, Like they just 507 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: make up this nickname and it stands for downwind from 508 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: the sewage treatment. But I don't know that that's how Like, 509 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: that's how they make up neighborhoods in New York. They 510 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: can try to make them sound cool so that they 511 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: can just like you know, bring bring people in. Um, 512 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: well you did Paradise Ones. It worked for you in 513 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: a way that I mean, you got life experience, you met, 514 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: You've got a fiance from it. Yeah. Um, like I wouldn't. 515 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: I would never change anything that happened throughout that whole experience, 516 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, like in the moment, that's absolutely how I felt, 517 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: and that's the decisions I made. Um, the producers did 518 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: call me last week. I knew what you're leading into. 519 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: I think I'm not going to do it again. I'm sure. Yeah, 520 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: you like you're really sure. I am really sure. Okay, alright, 521 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: I like my nine five too much. And with that, 522 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: actually's like, okay, next guest, No, no, no, I'm going 523 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: to ask you one little fun question because I don't 524 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: want to ask who you would I want to see 525 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: in Paradise since you're not going there, But I'm going 526 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: to try to predict which girl you sort of had 527 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: a crush on. I'm watching this, I'm interested actually, Okay, 528 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: So I'm going to ask you one simple question and 529 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: then the duct from there. Who is your celebrity crush? Oh? 530 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: This is interesting, it's changed recently, gal Gado. Okay, that's 531 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: a great crush to have. And I would say you 532 00:26:52,359 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: would have been most into, not one that I would actually, 533 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: not the one that I've normally thought, but absolutely she's like, 534 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: she seems like an incredible person. Who were you thinking of? Um? So, 535 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: I like I do my like show, and I've talked 536 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: about DEMI seems very like. I like somebody who's really spunky, 537 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: like I talked about that earlier, right, so somebody who 538 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: can give it back that's really important. And she definitely 539 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: gives it back. Yeah, exactly, and her and then for 540 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: some reason at lease, yeah totally was. I think she's 541 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: just like gorgeous and seems like a great person. Yeah, 542 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: it's too bad we didn't get to see more of her, 543 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: but obviously I couldn't go from Galcado to no, you know, 544 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 1: they're not related. But I tried my very best. You know, 545 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: I think I think I think Ta was like a 546 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: great guest too, because that's probably you know in that 547 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: yeah classy, well put together that but a but also 548 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: like tough, right, yes, like a wonder woman, not a pushover. 549 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, perfect, she could beat some aliens up, I think. Yeah. Alright, 550 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: so you and Taylor broke up about a year ago. Now, 551 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: it's been a little bit less than a years abound 552 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: about ten months. Everybody always says the nice thing in 553 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: their pr release says that we're going to remain friends 554 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: and you know, root for each other. Sure, we might 555 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: root for each other, but is it Are we really interactive? 556 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: Are you guys at all in touch? No, we're not, um, 557 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: you know, the like, I've never really spoken much on 558 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: what happened there. I know she has like a lot, 559 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: but the truth is like I don't feel the need 560 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: to go into a lot of the personal details. Um, 561 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: but I will say, you know, it was it was 562 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: warranted that we really haven't talked much since then. Yeah, 563 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: Like it's very healthy that we don't speak often. Um. 564 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: And I know there's like a lot of questions that 565 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: go around that, and we could talk for probably two hours. 566 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: We could probably do an in depth especially since she 567 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: has her own podcast. She probably does her own in 568 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: depth exactly week exactly. And sometimes I feel like that 569 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: could be frustrating to the other person who doesn't necessarily 570 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: have a podcast or platform. Well, I mean you do, 571 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: you do have past, like you don't talk about but 572 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: we don't talk about personal issues psychological style, yeah exactly. Um, 573 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: it was frustrating like to hear all that actually, Um. 574 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: You know, like there was a number of calls that 575 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: had with people to like suss through that, and and 576 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: you know they all ended up at the point like listen, 577 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: it's up to you say what you want. Um, Like 578 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: I don't think that's you to to to go out 579 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: and and and like try to start a you know, 580 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: public battle over this or and and that was that 581 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: was the right answer, you know, the truth was I 582 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: was like, you know what, that's right, that's not me. 583 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm not the person that needs to either like win 584 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: this or tell my side of anything, because because you 585 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: know what, like I'm moving past this, I don't need 586 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: to I don't need to like sit in it and 587 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: stay there. So that's why I never really like made 588 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: any comments or or anything, um about what happened in 589 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: the end. You know it Like again, it was it was. 590 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: It was a break for the right reasons, um. And 591 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: the fact that we don't stay in contact today is 592 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: like really healthy. It's a positive. That's good. That's good. Well, 593 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad that you guys figured it out the way 594 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: that you know it was best for you, and I 595 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,479 Speaker 1: think we both have different opinions on that. Yeah, she 596 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: like totally wanted to stay in touch, and that I was, 597 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: you know, not that didn't they didn't make sense for 598 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: the way our relationship ended, but you were to be 599 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: that way. You're definitely upset about your relationship ending to 600 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: some degree because you did go to therapy for it, 601 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: and we're in group therapy for a few months before 602 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: a couple of therapy I shouldn't say group yet, couple 603 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: of therapy. So tell me about the perks of couples 604 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: therapy and then why you want to go seek it 605 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: after Like what was like the real reason that you 606 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: felt like you needed to work out with a professional 607 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: and not necessarily a friend. Um. I think the couple's 608 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: therapy like the very important thing you get there is um, 609 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: somebody who's like an outside of server who gets a 610 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: key in on the most important thing that the other 611 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: person said, because like we get heated in conversation when 612 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: you're in a relationship, you know, and and like it's 613 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,719 Speaker 1: easy to get lost in in like thinking about your 614 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: own thoughts and not like maybe what the other person 615 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: said that was really like meaningful to them, right, And 616 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: I think it's really good for like the great part 617 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: about group there or a couple of therapy, sorry, is 618 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: that there's there was there who's like, did you hear 619 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: this specific thing that they said? I think that seems 620 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: important to them and there's like a validation there that happens. 621 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: It's really powerful, and I like, I suggest anybody who 622 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: is like trying to make something work that they seek 623 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: that out. UM. And then you know, personal therapy is UM. 624 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: I think it's something that almost any everybody should be 625 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: doing anyway, and then right we all like where people, 626 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: we all have we all have issues. And I think 627 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: for me it was just like a really good way 628 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: for me to um here like like these are people 629 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: who have spent year studying why we think the way 630 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: we do, you know, and then they're like there's all 631 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: these little again. It's like it's like separation from the 632 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: things that anger us or like make us really emotional 633 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: and and into like but does this really matter or 634 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: like what is the important part of it? So I 635 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: think it helped me really like define a clear next 636 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: step and and why like things happen the way they did, 637 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: as well as like being happy and positive from from 638 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: the ending of that. You talked to us Weekly about 639 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: it a couple of months ago, And what I do 640 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: love in that article is that you mentioned that you 641 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: didn't want to just commiserate with friends and like just 642 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: feel sappy and just talk about what you were so 643 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: sad about. You wanted to like kind of use it 644 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: as a way to move on. Yeah, I feel like friends, 645 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: Like a lot of times I love all my friends, 646 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: but they tend to just like say the same thing 647 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: that you're that you're thinking or or just just be like, yeah, 648 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: that she's horrible, you know what I mean, But that's 649 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: not like really what you need to keep moving forward. 650 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: So that's a great it's a great solution to that problem. 651 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: I think more people should go to therapy have to 652 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: break up. It would probably be very helpful and cut 653 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: the recovery time in half, I would hope. And and like, 654 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, don't backslide and text that X wa what 655 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: do you mean to go backslide and text about text 656 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: that X? I mean, don't text the X. No, no, no, 657 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: that just puts you back again. All Right, Well, Derek, 658 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,239 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Thanks actually for having me and 659 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: um stupid. We won't see you in Paradise, but thanks 660 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: for being so honest about it. Yeah, and you'll be 661 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: a liar if we see you there. I've been known 662 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: to lie like white lies in the past, So all right, 663 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: so I won't keep you to here work, all right, bye, Derek, 664 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. So you guys, we have memo 665 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 1: John here, which oddly we went through an entire Paradise 666 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: season in which you were like the main man, the 667 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: main man be both sought after dated man and paradise 668 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,479 Speaker 1: and we still didn't have you on, which is crazy. 669 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 1: So well, I'm said, they almost miss podcast. Thank you 670 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: for having me. I have a good amount of questions 671 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: for you right now. You have a girlfriend. Sorry to 672 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: all you girls out there that we're looking to date 673 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: Vemo John, Yes, tell us about how you met her? Yes, 674 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: So Brittany is amazing. She we met actually several years 675 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: ago through work, and we didn't really get a chance 676 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: to hang out much or get to know each other 677 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: too much until I would honestly say, like around bachelorette time, 678 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: and we were good friends. We started becoming good friends 679 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: around that time because she was like, hey, I'm a 680 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: big fan of the show and I'd love to see 681 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: you get on because we were starting to become friends. 682 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: She helped me get on. Then she uh also enjoyed 683 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: getting to like just be part of that experience and 684 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: see a friend go on the show. Then I went 685 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: on Paradise, and I think we continued hanging out as 686 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: friends and then realized that we were more than friends, 687 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 1: and so that happened towards like later after the show ended, 688 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: and we started dating after that. Crazy you think that 689 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 1: she developed a crush on you through seeing how sought 690 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: after you were on Paradise. He was like, wait a second, 691 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: this guy's my friend and every other girl wants him, 692 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: and I just realized I want him to I don't 693 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: know if any part of the show influenced how she 694 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: felt about me, because we knew each other before the 695 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: show ever happened, so she got to see me before 696 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: the show, and I like to think that she already 697 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: thought I was kind of an awesome person before the show, 698 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: So hopefully the show didn't have any sort of impact 699 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: on her. If it did, I'm hoping that it was 700 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: also just a positive impact. Um. But we're we're in 701 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: a good place now and I'm really happy about that. 702 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,919 Speaker 1: So you were the guy that every girl asked out 703 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: last year? Quickly, what why do you think that was? 704 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: I came in with a completely open mind, and I 705 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: put myself out there to go meet everybody, so you 706 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: could talk to any of the women out there, and 707 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, I'm John, Let's go chat for 708 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 1: half an hour an hour on the beach and let's 709 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: just hang out and if there's some kind of connection 710 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: or vibe there, let's just keep hanging out. And I 711 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: didn't really try to let my nerves kick in or 712 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: let myself talk myself out of hanging out with anybody. 713 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: And I really just wanted to see what could happen, 714 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: and so I didn't have expectations and that was the 715 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: best part of it. I know that we don't really 716 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: know Hannah's cast of guys yet, but is there a 717 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: guy from the franchise that you can foresee being you 718 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: this coming Paradise season? You know, to be honest, I 719 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: didn't watch any of the opening guys from Hannah season, 720 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,879 Speaker 1: so I don't know. You were like such a good 721 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: friend last season. I feel like all the girls kind 722 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,959 Speaker 1: of wanted to date you because they all just liked 723 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: being around you, and I felt like you were just 724 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: like Mr. What was Sandra Bullock? And mh you're Miss Congeniality. 725 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: You're Mr. Congeniality. So who do you keep in touch 726 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: with the most? Yeah, I definitely so. Blake was not 727 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: somebody that I came on Paradise on my season, but 728 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: I've definitely kept in touch with Blake a lot. Another 729 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: friend of mine was Garrett, and I kept in touch 730 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: quite a bit with Clay and Chris. So um. A 731 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: lot of folks I've met through the show are not 732 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: people that I would have met otherwise. Like I'm kind 733 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: of in my tech bubble in SF, and I have 734 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: retained my job both before and after, and these are 735 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: people that I wouldn't traditionally meet otherwise, and I've what's 736 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: one of the things I've been most grateful about is 737 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: it's like introduced me to people that I wouldn't normally 738 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 1: hang out with otherwise, and I think that's been pretty awesome. 739 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: I one person I really liked who I felt like 740 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: influenced me a lot on Paradise was Kevin and he 741 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: was like almost a good mentor for me and just 742 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,959 Speaker 1: like help me think about things or talk about things 743 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: differently from a perspective that I hadn't seen before. And 744 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: it's something that I appreciated because I felt like he 745 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: was kind of like a brother to me on the show. 746 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: That's nice. Um, what about let's go visit let's go 747 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: revisit the Clay thing for a second. Not only were 748 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: you friends with Clay on your season The Bachelorette, but 749 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: you were also friends with Angela definitely in Paradise, and 750 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: it seems like they have broken up. We don't have 751 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: any confirmation of this, but do you know from your 752 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 1: own personal sources. I Uh, your sources are as good 753 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: as mine, and I haven't heard anything. So uh, you 754 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: know you haven't heard anything. MoMA. How in touch with 755 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: you are? Are you with Clay? My My goal is 756 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,720 Speaker 1: to be on both of their sides as their friends, 757 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: and I want the best for them. I know that 758 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: they weren't co located in the same location, so any 759 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: sort of long distance relationship can be really hard. Was 760 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: he still trying to get into the NFL? Is he's 761 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 1: still working at that? I know Clay works out quite 762 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: a bit and he is an incredibly athletic guy. So 763 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 1: I see him at the gym like at least twice 764 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: a day every day. And my last question for you 765 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: is you have this nickname Venmo John because you were 766 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: one of the first people who worked at Venmo. You 767 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 1: did coding for them. I was an engineer there. Yeah, okay, 768 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: So what did you do before you went on the show? 769 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 1: And what do you do now? So? I was an 770 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: engineer at Venmo for about five years UM and then 771 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: in a small startup and started by the founder of 772 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: venmouled Finn, and a few weeks ago I started a 773 00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: new job at a Sanna and it's work management software. 774 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: So still within the tech realm in Silicon Valley, and 775 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: it's a really good group of folks. So I'm still 776 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: very much in the tech scene. I'm an engineer and 777 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: engineering manager there. So um, I've still very much kept 778 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: my roots in what I enjoy and find passion in, 779 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: which is in engineering. Awesome, all right, well, thank you 780 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: for joining us for the first time, Venmo John, And 781 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry for calling you Venmo John, because I know 782 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: that you don't really like that. Dude. I don't know 783 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: where it came from that I don't like it because 784 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: I have I'm in different like about the name. If 785 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: I heard earlier somebody said like, sorry, I know you 786 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,720 Speaker 1: don't like that. It's been calling poor Venmo John Venmo 787 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: John like for two days now. And then somebody I said, oh, 788 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: can you wait here for Derek and Venmo John? And 789 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: she does I need to Venmo? Who was? I just 790 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: think it's funny because I don't work at Venmo anymore. 791 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 1: And it's well, you know what, You've been giving them 792 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: a ton of publicity. They've gotten gotten a lot of 793 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: free publicity. They put me in ads in the New 794 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,280 Speaker 1: York City subways though, So I thought that was awesome. 795 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: That was so cool that people would text me out 796 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: of the blue that I haven't seen from a long 797 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: time and they're like, hey, I saw you in you know, 798 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: the J Street chain station. I'm like, WHOA, I didn't 799 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: even know I was there. Yeah. A lot of you 800 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: know moms out there who are like, what are what's venmo? Well, 801 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 1: you taught them what veno was and you probably changed 802 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: their life when it comes to going out to eat 803 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: with their friends. Keep using it. Send your college kids money, 804 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: all right, thank you, Josh. Okay, Now we are joined. 805 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: Is this like one of those roulette versions of the 806 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: podcast that we do sometimes, especially around finale season. We're 807 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 1: doing it today on the NAPA Valley Wine Train. Our 808 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: next guest is Vanessa, and Vanessa usually been on this 809 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: podcast once. I think I replaced you when you were 810 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: on Winner Games. Yeah, so I never did it, Oh 811 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: well I did. I think once I came in for 812 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: like five minutes to talk. I remember what I came 813 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: in to talk about with you and Ben you called 814 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: me in, but I never was face to face with 815 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: you doing the podcast. It feels different, all right. So 816 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: you are the host You're one third of the host 817 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: for Help I Suck a Dating, which is funny because 818 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: it's a panel of you, Jared and Dean and uh, 819 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: two of you are in relationships and now one just 820 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: sucks at dating. It's so funny. So Diana was the 821 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: one that started the podcast, and then Jared came on, 822 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 1: and then I came on, and we were all basically 823 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 1: single when we first started, and then Jared got well, 824 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: you guys got engaged, and now I'm in a committed relationship. 825 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: It's fairly it's still fairly new. It's still like a 826 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: couple of months, but I feel really good about this relationship. 827 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to jinx it. Okay. So I know 828 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the things that are talked about in 829 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: your podcast because sometimes Jarard will bring the topics home 830 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,280 Speaker 1: and be like, what do you think about this? Because 831 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: you guys often don't agree, and that's a good thing 832 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 1: for the podcast. One of the things I could not 833 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: believe was that you like your boyfriend to keep the 834 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: bathroom door open. Yes, And I was just like, before 835 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: coming on, I was like, guys, I didn't take my 836 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: I know he said that, and I was like, I 837 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: appreciate that. Because like I had to go to the 838 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: room for a similar reason. But um, I'm pretty open 839 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: with Jared about like the potty stuff now. I mean, 840 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: when you live in an apartment together, it's kind of 841 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: hard to hide it. Yeah, I mean you try to 842 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: be as discreet as as possible for me at least, 843 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: but like it's nothing I feel they need to like 844 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: turn on the shower in order to go anymore. Like now, 845 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: that's what I used to do. Yeah, especially when we 846 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: when we were first together, before we started living together, 847 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: I would all I would never go, never go potty 848 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: with him there, unless I was taking a shower and 849 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 1: doing it at the same time, so you would hold 850 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: it in. I don't know that I really have to 851 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 1: have the Yeah, I guess so, well, look, I guess 852 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: so I'm my my boyfriend is he's like a little 853 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: weirded out by the fact that because I've been in 854 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: relationships where you would oh yeah, I'm like, I don't care, 855 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: se I don't like that at all. Like I'm okay 856 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: with being open about like this is what I have 857 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 1: to go do, but I can't imagine doing it with 858 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 1: somebody else in the room, like not even my sister, 859 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: Like I've mastered it. There's so many tricks to it, 860 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: so I can face time someone and I'm like going 861 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: to the bathroom, but like it's like I'm I know 862 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: it's about to drop, but I just put myself on mute. Okay, 863 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 1: But but why why do you want your boyfriend to 864 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: keep the door open when he's going Because I get 865 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: for like, in an intense conversation, he's like, I gotta 866 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 1: go to the bathroom, Like we'll just leave the door 867 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,959 Speaker 1: open and we'll talk. Stop. How many intense conversations you have? 868 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 1: So many were still getting to get exits himself to 869 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 1: go potty, and then you are so fresh in a relationship, 870 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,359 Speaker 1: and yet you tell him to not keeping that's the same. 871 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm like if if he can't handle that, then like 872 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm the type of person like I've been in relationships 873 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 1: and you've seen like my relationships fail like publicly or whatever, 874 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: and I'm someone that needs to know the person fully 875 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: and not like if I'm meeting you, I don't want 876 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 1: you to tell me something about yourself in six months 877 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: from now. Like whatever you think you're gonna tell me 878 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: in six months, just tell it to me now. And 879 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: I find that so attractive and like when someone is 880 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 1: so authentically themselves, whether that's like something that they've done 881 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: in the past that they're really ashamed of, and if 882 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: they're honest about it and they own it, I'm like, 883 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: that's so hot. So like the same thing with like 884 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: the bathroom like whatever, like everyone goes no shame, like 885 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 1: God forbid, knock on wood. I get sick one day 886 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,720 Speaker 1: and you know, well, Jared's seen me throw up before, 887 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: like he's seen vomit come out of my mouth twice. 888 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: It's not that's when vomit comes out of well yeah, 889 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: I know, but like he he hasn't just heard me 890 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 1: in the bathroom, like he's like the waterfall. I just 891 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:49,800 Speaker 1: I don't think we're ever going to see eye to 892 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: eye on this. I'm never going to be comfortable with 893 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 1: my significant I want, you know, I don't want anybody 894 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: got to go I know, the door. I don't like 895 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 1: the thought of anyone going around me. No, I don't 896 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: have my girlfriends like my sister. If I walking on 897 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: the bathroom, walk into the bathroom with her going, I'll 898 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 1: be like, no, I know it's coming out of your room. No, No, 899 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't like I don't know well, I think I am. 900 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,399 Speaker 1: I'm different, though a lot of people are like that's 901 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: just disgusting, especially as a girl like differ. It's I 902 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 1: guess like people find it weird, but I'm also someone 903 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: like I don't know. Like if I'm showering and I'm 904 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: like I want my boyfriend to be in the room 905 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: with me, he'll like lie down and like we'll have 906 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: like a conversation as I'm showering and he's in the 907 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: bathroom like just hanging out with me. What's so funny 908 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: is that you keep talking about this need to talk, 909 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: like even it into the bathroom and you're like, I 910 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm lonely, like I need you to come in while 911 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm either going to the bathroom we're taking a shower. 912 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,359 Speaker 1: Attachment style is like what is it? There's like four 913 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: different attachment styles and when one is an anxious attachment style? 914 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: Have you ever done that? Yes, I think there's an anchor. 915 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: I think I'm a little bit of an Yeah, I'm 916 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:04,800 Speaker 1: an anxious. You're preoccupied, anxious, preoccupied, dismissive, slash avoided or 917 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: fearful and avoidance. Yeah. So you can do a test 918 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,399 Speaker 1: to see what kind of attachment style you are, and 919 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, but you have. You seem to 920 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: me like an introvert extrovert, where like you can have 921 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:22,359 Speaker 1: very extroverted moments, but you actually need your alone time 922 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: to get compressed. But it seems like you and your 923 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: relationships are in constant chat mode. We are. It's so 924 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:35,240 Speaker 1: I remember um the first time we so he slid 925 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,240 Speaker 1: into my d M s and that's how we started talking. 926 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 1: So he messaged me on Instagram. We started chatting, and 927 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: from that day on, we've literally every like, if we're 928 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 1: not together, we're texting each other. If we're not together, 929 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 1: we're FaceTime. There's something that that's constantly we need to 930 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: be updating each other. It's also the beginning of a relationship. 931 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 1: It's so fresh, it's so fun, Like you constantly want 932 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: to be next to each other, and you have so 933 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 1: much to share and so much to get to know 934 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,720 Speaker 1: about each other. So yeah, I want to be pooping 935 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 1: with him with the door open because I'm like, I 936 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: have more to tell you, there's more to get to know. 937 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay, now this is a topic. I 938 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,880 Speaker 1: do need to hear your point of view about audience, 939 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 1: so email your thoughts to Ben and Ashley at I 940 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 1: heart media dot com. I need to see how many 941 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 1: of you are No one isn't agree with me. Okay, 942 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: well we'll see, we'll see, we'll see, Vanessa, I actually 943 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: want to do a pole like count to them and 944 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 1: if you haven't, just try it and then then let 945 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,320 Speaker 1: me know. Never like, I just love the fact that 946 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: I was able to go upstairs to the room of 947 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:40,439 Speaker 1: myself and Jared is down here, like it's just nice. Um, yeah, 948 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 1: we have it. That's that's like a say, you know, 949 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: what I really find to be the best solution is 950 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: really just the match. Really the match eliminates the smell 951 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,800 Speaker 1: better than anything else. Well, it's also like the courtesy 952 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:57,439 Speaker 1: flush just like that helps them. Yeah. Both okay, moving on, 953 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: but also not completely so. On the podcast, you guys 954 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: talk about all this relationship stuff all the time. What 955 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: is something that you, as a girl feel like guys 956 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: don't get a girl girls like you're just never going 957 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 1: to see eye to eye on I think, And it's 958 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: so interesting. I was dating this one guy and we 959 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: were having this discussion and he's like, you know, girls 960 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 1: just constantly think of the relationship like you guys are 961 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 1: walking down the street and you were thinking what my 962 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: man is up to? Like what is my guy up to? 963 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: Or you're like brushing your teeth and you're thinking about 964 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: calling your guy. Guys are walking down the street thinking 965 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 1: like I wonder if the Patriots played today, Like they're 966 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: not constantly thinking of the relationship. Um. And I think 967 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: that's one thing women and men will never really see 968 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,839 Speaker 1: eye to eye. And I think that's why, Like, you know, 969 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm an overthinker and I'm someone that needs to be 970 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,720 Speaker 1: with someone who wants to talk things through because I'm 971 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 1: constantly in my head thinking like trying to connect connect 972 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 1: the dots and trying to you know, I want to 973 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 1: be ahead of the game. Um. But sometimes I get 974 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: so into my head. I create scenarios in my head. 975 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn it, I'm and crazy, and so I 976 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: like to be able to talk about those kinds of things. No, 977 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 1: I totally get it. You're right. Whenever Jared's quiet and 978 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: seems like he he's in a mood, I'm like, what 979 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,839 Speaker 1: I do? What I do? Tell me what I did? 980 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 1: And He's like, no, seriously, I'm just contemplating something that 981 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: I don't like about myself. You know. Well, that's usually 982 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 1: when Jared gets down, it's usually doesn't have to do 983 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 1: it with about me. It usually has to do with 984 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: like one of his own insecurities. But I find you guys. 985 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,399 Speaker 1: Are you guys like balance each other off so nicely? Yes? 986 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 1: We do. We are the perfect compliments and opposites at 987 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 1: the same time. It's really good. Um. My last question 988 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: for you is, well, where do you see this relationship 989 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 1: going with your boyfriend and would you ever do the 990 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 1: Bachelor process again? If this would you? Well, no, I 991 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 1: couldn't do it for a fifth time. Okay, I only 992 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: did it once, but I did end up engaged, and 993 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: I it was a little traumatizing for me because I 994 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 1: wanted to be engaged and I want to make sure 995 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: that that relationship was going to turn into marriage, you know, 996 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,280 Speaker 1: like you have that scenario in your head. And I'm like, okay, 997 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: Like now, I'm I'm I accepted the fact that that 998 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:13,720 Speaker 1: wasn't my happily ever after. Um I don't I always 999 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,280 Speaker 1: say never say never because I never thought I would 1000 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 1: ever ever beyond the Bachelor and I'm happy that I 1001 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 1: did it. Um, But I feel really secure in the 1002 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: relationship I am in now. Um. So I feel I 1003 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 1: feel really good about it, So that's a non but 1004 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 1: you also seem like super cognitive about it, Like you 1005 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: seem very mentally in control about it, Like you're not 1006 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:42,320 Speaker 1: like super giddy. You know, I'm in therapy, Like, yeah, 1007 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 1: so therapy definitely helps. Um um, and I've I've done 1008 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 1: a lot of as much as trauma, as much as 1009 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: The Bachelor was really traumatizing, it was helpful in the 1010 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,880 Speaker 1: sense that, you know, like when you're in a relationship 1011 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 1: in the real world, you call your friend and you 1012 00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 1: call your mom, you want to get advice from like 1013 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: certain people to see what the best advices and what 1014 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 1: the next step is in your relationship. When you're on 1015 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 1: the Bachelor, you're only relying on yourself. I know. That's 1016 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 1: the biggest difference. Yeah, and it it felt so good 1017 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,319 Speaker 1: to just rely on what my intuition was telling me. 1018 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: So I did a lot of self reflection and um. 1019 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 1: As like I said, as as traumatizing as it was, 1020 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 1: it just like it really helped me grow. It's so 1021 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 1: crazy because you actually go from like not being able 1022 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,360 Speaker 1: to send a text without your sister approval, right, do 1023 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 1: I put a dodge? I put an next commation point 1024 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 1: do I put an emoji like to doing everything by 1025 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,919 Speaker 1: yourself and then not even having texting as a crutch. Yeah, 1026 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 1: all right, well, Vanessa, thank you so much for joining us, 1027 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 1: and you guys make sure to listen to her podcast 1028 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 1: with Dean and Jared help I suck at dating? Also 1029 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 1: here on my heart. Okay, hey guys, we have our 1030 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 1: our last guest of our marathon. Um roulette. I'm the 1031 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 1: last one, last of five. Yeah. Well we had to, 1032 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 1: you know, finish out strong because we know that you 1033 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 1: and I do this podcast very well together. You're a 1034 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 1: very good co host. I'm okay cool. Why because I'm 1035 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:20,479 Speaker 1: the last one, You're the caboose and Beyonce's boote. Yeah. 1036 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 1: Do you wanna do you want to start out with 1037 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 1: light topics or dark? Not dark? Deep? Let's start light. 1038 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 1: Let me sober up whilst we do this. All right, 1039 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,800 Speaker 1: this the journalists in US can go read this email 1040 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,760 Speaker 1: in which I've been really messing up on grammar lately. 1041 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 1: Is this from Catherine? Do you want me to read it? Yeah? Okay? 1042 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 1: Top one Catherine ash Irish Ristwatch, Irish rist Watch, Irish 1043 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:58,440 Speaker 1: Rush How now brown coup Ashley repeated repeatedly uses the 1044 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 1: word casted, as in, when you got casted on the show? 1045 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 1: Do we have like a is there a guitar player? Back? 1046 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: The past tense is cast. The past tense of cast 1047 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 1: is cast. She is repeatedly using a word that doesn't exist. 1048 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 1: That's not even a question, this is just talking. But 1049 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 1: did you know this? Ashley repeatedly uses the worst cast 1050 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 1: when you were casting the show, not casting the show? Okay, okay, 1051 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,439 Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. I do. I say cast 1052 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: it like to cast? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. 1053 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 1: Um is casted like um a fishing pole? Is that casted? 1054 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 1: I don't even know you cast a fishing pole? You 1055 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 1: cast a fishing pole? You're casting? Yeah? I don't even know. 1056 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 1: I looked it up and it said cast. It is 1057 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 1: not also did in the American Dictionary. Catherine relax, It's okay, 1058 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,360 Speaker 1: Ben says. Ben gets grammar stuff sometime too, because he 1059 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 1: always still says Ashley and eyes instead of Ashley and 1060 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 1: my Do you want me to do a cat No? Okay, 1061 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 1: I want I'm sorry. I ruined that. No, no, no, 1062 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:20,320 Speaker 1: that was that was good. Um, So, Pachelor in Paradise, 1063 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 1: are you going to come back as the bartender, What 1064 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 1: do you want me to say here? Well, I want 1065 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:25,799 Speaker 1: you to just know. I want you to say what 1066 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 1: you actually know. I would say, who knows what's going 1067 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 1: to happen? So it's really not in stone yet. Do 1068 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 1: you want me to be honest about it? You know 1069 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,399 Speaker 1: as well as I do that contracts coming in front 1070 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 1: of your face about seventh seventeen hours before you fly 1071 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 1: out there? Ye? Absolutely okay, So if you if you 1072 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:54,239 Speaker 1: film in June, contracts haven't gotten in front of me 1073 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,399 Speaker 1: at all? Right, I will say this, Um, I would 1074 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,839 Speaker 1: love to go back. I think it's a really fun 1075 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:05,800 Speaker 1: show to do. My ego got beaten down a little 1076 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,359 Speaker 1: bit last season because I wasn't on it a lot, 1077 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 1: which is totally understandable because there was a lot going on. 1078 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 1: It was a really heavy, good season. Um, So that 1079 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 1: hurt a little bit, being like I did a lot 1080 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,359 Speaker 1: of work and like nothing was there. But I would 1081 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,320 Speaker 1: love to go back. It's so much fun to see 1082 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,239 Speaker 1: that all that stuff, Like you've been there, You've been 1083 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 1: there a couple of times as if. I like, it's 1084 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 1: so fun to witness all of it. Um, it's really 1085 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,280 Speaker 1: nice to meet everybody. But who knows what's gonna happen? 1086 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 1: How would you feel about going back to a paradise 1087 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 1: that wasn't a Lan's That's a really that's a really 1088 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,400 Speaker 1: good question. I feel like a lot of people probably 1089 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 1: don't understand, but I think a lot of fans, like 1090 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,800 Speaker 1: if they're hardcore fans, they are interested because I think 1091 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 1: Alan is kind of like the behind the scenes face 1092 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 1: of it, and it was his concept. Really, So here's 1093 00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,280 Speaker 1: the thing that like a lot of people don't understand. 1094 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 1: But Alan is in executive producer of The Bachelor. He 1095 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 1: was executive producer of The Batchlery. He's no longer with 1096 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 1: the franchise, but he was my producer and he was 1097 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 1: your producer as well, which is interesting because you and 1098 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 1: I were on the show together and romantically involved. Um A. 1099 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 1: Lawn is probably the smartest guy I've ever met. He's 1100 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:27,120 Speaker 1: probably also the funniest guy I've ever met. Also the 1101 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: person that knows people in their minds, possibly better than 1102 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 1: they know their own minds. He's just really good at 1103 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 1: reading people and and figuring out how to talk to them. 1104 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 1: He's a really good psychiatrist. Like if you've ever watched 1105 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 1: The Bachelor, of the bachelorette. When someone's driving away and 1106 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 1: they're crying, there's a really good chance a lawn was 1107 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 1: the guy that was talking to them at that moment, 1108 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 1: And if they don't seem too affected, it probably wasn't. Yeah, yeah, 1109 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 1: if they don't like me. When I was driving a 1110 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 1: way in mind, I wasn't crying. That's mean. I never 1111 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 1: cried in the show, which is so funny because I 1112 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 1: cry all the time. But then after after I was 1113 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 1: done doing what I did, along got in the car 1114 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 1: and then we talked and I cried. I was like, dude, dude, 1115 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,000 Speaker 1: take the tape out, let's just talk real for a while. 1116 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 1: And I cried. Um. This is the last thing I'll 1117 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: say about the show that Paradise is supposed to be 1118 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 1: a comedy, and that's what's great about that show. I 1119 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 1: would say that the thing that I that annoys me 1120 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 1: the most about The Bats of the Bat Threat is 1121 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 1: it takes itself way too seriously, much more seriously than 1122 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 1: it probably should be taken. Because at the end of 1123 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 1: the day, life is funny, but it's a very serious show. 1124 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,320 Speaker 1: Paradise opens up with guess what, this is silly, and 1125 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 1: just so you know, it here's a guy that's getting 1126 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 1: destroyed by a wave or something. You know, like, so 1127 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 1: you know, off the off the that it's silly, but 1128 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 1: then amazing, wonderful, beautiful things happened, and that's how life works. 1129 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,720 Speaker 1: That's how I feel like, that's how a law is. 1130 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 1: And the fact that he's not going to be involved 1131 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 1: makes me worried about that show. And that's not to 1132 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 1: say that the show will not continue to be funny 1133 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:16,560 Speaker 1: and amazing and people won't fall in love. But let's 1134 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,320 Speaker 1: be real, dude, that dude that was his baby, and 1135 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 1: that show is great because that man is great. That's 1136 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 1: my thought on that, and I'm not going to elaborate 1137 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 1: because that was perfect. Okay. Cool. You set your friend 1138 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,600 Speaker 1: Derek up with your co host Stephanie Pratt, and it's 1139 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 1: really awkward to talk in front there right there. But 1140 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 1: now that you're in a serious relationship, you've been miss 1141 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 1: therea for about a year and a half, now do 1142 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 1: you feel like it's just so much fun to set 1143 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 1: your friends up because you just don't have to set 1144 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 1: yourself up Because I feel like I'm always trying to 1145 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,959 Speaker 1: find people from my friends now it's a it's so 1146 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 1: much pressure right. I actually hate this idea of setting 1147 00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,959 Speaker 1: your friends up with people because it can only mean 1148 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,880 Speaker 1: that someone's gonna either it's great and they get married 1149 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: and have children. That very rarely happens. A lot of 1150 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 1: times it doesn't work out, and then you're the problem 1151 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 1: because you're the one who created that. You were the 1152 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 1: catalyst for the problem. Um, Stephanie. Stephanie is a beautiful, wonderful, 1153 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 1: smart woman. Um, the problem is that she has been 1154 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 1: in relationships with people who are for lack of a 1155 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 1: better term, pieces of they don't have any money, they're 1156 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 1: mooching offer and we can all kind of we can't all, 1157 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 1: but like we can relate to that. So I was like, 1158 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,440 Speaker 1: who are my friends who have like got it together? 1159 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:50,240 Speaker 1: Derek is one is a great looking guy, he's smart. Um, 1160 01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,160 Speaker 1: he's been in the public eye, so like this is 1161 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 1: something that would like freak him out, which is that's 1162 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 1: the thing that people don't ever bring into the realm 1163 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 1: of possibilities of Like this is too much. I can't 1164 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 1: handle hanging out with someone who is always being asked 1165 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 1: for pictures and taking to them that this is the 1166 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 1: thing that people don't understand. And then also Derek uh 1167 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 1: it's like finance guy in New York, Like he doesn't 1168 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 1: he's not worried about like money and all that kind 1169 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 1: of stuff, So he's not concerned with like mooching off 1170 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 1: of her and like surfing every day in Malibu. You know. 1171 01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 1: So when the thought of who should she date for this, 1172 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 1: Derek came to mind, just because Derek is the antie 1173 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 1: of every dude she's ever dated, and that was the thought, 1174 01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 1: how do you think it's going? I know, the first 1175 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,480 Speaker 1: date went really well, even though we had a precarious situation. 1176 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 1: Can you explain this because I just realized I forgot 1177 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 1: to ask Derek about this um tardiness that happened. So like, okay, 1178 01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,200 Speaker 1: well set up the two of them and then their 1179 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 1: first day. So it's interesting because Stephanie showed up an 1180 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 1: hour and a halfway explain why I want to get 1181 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 1: really close to the microphones. So everyone, here's what I 1182 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,680 Speaker 1: have to say. So, um, so, Darren lives in New York, 1183 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 1: steph lives in Los Angeles. Right, we fly Derek out 1184 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 1: for this, so right off the bat kind of an issue. 1185 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,760 Speaker 1: There were some logistics just getting his ass out here 1186 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 1: comes out here because he loves his nine to five. 1187 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 1: As we just learned, he loves it right, doesn't want 1188 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 1: to stray. He wants we set up like a breakfast date. 1189 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: I think was originally we set up a breakfast and 1190 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 1: then step was like, I'm flying in from Hawaii. We 1191 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 1: gotta push it back a little bit. So when it 1192 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,840 Speaker 1: was a brunch, she's also really nothing romantic about our 1193 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:54,600 Speaker 1: breakfast date unless you brown brown out the night beforehand, 1194 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:59,760 Speaker 1: then it's a super totally agree. So she was like, hey, 1195 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 1: let's let's kick it to a brunch date, which we're like, okay, 1196 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 1: totally fine. So we send Derek to the brunch date. 1197 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 1: Of course, myself and Amy are on a text change 1198 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:15,600 Speaker 1: with Derek. Derek's like, god, here, I don't know where 1199 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 1: she is going to order a mimosa or something. People 1200 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 1: might be confused right now, you guys set this up 1201 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,080 Speaker 1: and like flew him out because it was kind of 1202 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 1: an experiment for the podcast. Yeah, because she she's had 1203 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 1: problems dating and I was the prad cast. Yeah, yeah, 1204 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,920 Speaker 1: thank you for plugging my podcast. And when does it 1205 01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 1: usually air? Every every Monday? Every Monday? You're just you're 1206 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 1: just here with almost famous in the Monday Group. Yeah, mondays, 1207 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,400 Speaker 1: So he's like texting us to be like, hey, this 1208 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,880 Speaker 1: guy here waiting for We're like, great, she'll be there's 1209 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:56,120 Speaker 1: no joke. An hour goes by, and so then I'm 1210 01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 1: terrified because my good friend who's flying out from New 1211 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,240 Speaker 1: York to go in the state that with a woman 1212 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 1: he's never met, hasn't showed up. So Sarah and I, 1213 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:09,960 Speaker 1: my girlfriend and I are walking around a uh farmers market, 1214 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,240 Speaker 1: and I'm like, Sarah, I don't know, she hasn't heart up, 1215 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,680 Speaker 1: and she's like what, no way. He flew from New York. 1216 01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 1: So it's like a thing now. So we're like, oh 1217 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 1: my god. So I'm texting Amy, I'm texting Derek being like, 1218 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,800 Speaker 1: don't worry, it's gonna be fine. She's just a little late. 1219 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,400 Speaker 1: So then we get a text message from Steph that says, 1220 01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 1: oh my god, it's twelve forty four. No, oh my god, 1221 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 1: it says it's twelve forty four on my phone. What 1222 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,920 Speaker 1: time is it? And then Amy ripped immediately responds with 1223 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 1: it's twelve forty four. You're already late to this. Yeah, 1224 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,160 Speaker 1: she was, what are you talking about? So what happened 1225 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 1: was this is what she says, you should probably bring 1226 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 1: her on to talk about it. But apparently in Hawaii 1227 01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:00,680 Speaker 1: there is no time change in terms of UH daily savings. 1228 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,960 Speaker 1: But apparently Steph doesn't look at her phone because it 1229 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,800 Speaker 1: happens naturally. This is a week after time change. This 1230 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 1: is this is ended that morning. No, thank you. Clarify 1231 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,440 Speaker 1: she did land that morning, but the time had changed 1232 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:21,240 Speaker 1: a week trying to make it a better story. No, continue, 1233 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,920 Speaker 1: she had landed that morning and was going home and 1234 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 1: then to the date, but the time had changed a 1235 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,880 Speaker 1: week earlier. I like telling it. Stephanie's down there, but 1236 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,520 Speaker 1: let's just tell it without her. They can listen to 1237 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,960 Speaker 1: the prat cast. If they should just be Mike, they 1238 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,200 Speaker 1: should be mic job right now on their second day, 1239 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:39,919 Speaker 1: which is happening to the other by the way, they're 1240 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,280 Speaker 1: sitting next to each other, super kid, and I keep 1241 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 1: looking under the table to see if they're holding hands. 1242 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 1: There's been some touching, yeah, but tune into the prat 1243 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 1: cast for more on that. So anyways, she shows up 1244 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,200 Speaker 1: like an hour and a half late. By this time, 1245 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,640 Speaker 1: Derek's wasted because he's been sitting around. He's been texting 1246 01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 1: me being like what do I do? And I'm like 1247 01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 1: I just ordinary drank, dude, I don't know how to 1248 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 1: tell you. And there was a time, there was a 1249 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,160 Speaker 1: there was a serious moment in time where we were 1250 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,520 Speaker 1: both like, dude, five minutes and then go don't worry 1251 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,480 Speaker 1: about it, like we feel bad. And then she showed 1252 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,360 Speaker 1: up and then they had the most amazing time ever. 1253 01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,440 Speaker 1: So much show that we had to like make a 1254 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,560 Speaker 1: whole another show, the sidebar test between Wells and me 1255 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 1: for like the shocked face emoji just constantly like she's 1256 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,240 Speaker 1: so late, shocked face head exploding. Um, they're having a 1257 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,960 Speaker 1: blast and making out shocked face head exploding. They made out. 1258 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,560 Speaker 1: So it was on Patty's Day, so she was wearing 1259 01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 1: green lipstick. Then there's pictures, there's receipts of him just 1260 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:42,080 Speaker 1: having so much green all over his face. It was 1261 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,000 Speaker 1: amazing St. Patrick's Day, first date. I no wonder why 1262 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 1: it was drunk. Okay, we have to move on to 1263 01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,040 Speaker 1: they start and Derek and Steff. They're cute though, they 1264 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 1: are very cute. Um, so if you wanted to not 1265 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 1: just set up your friends, but set up some Bachelor contestants, 1266 01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 1: we have an email from Sarah about Bachelor in Paradise 1267 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:02,320 Speaker 1: pairings she says, I want some of the good and 1268 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,480 Speaker 1: maybe slightly forgotten favorites to make a comeback on Bachelor 1269 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:10,760 Speaker 1: in Paradise. Let's talk Hayley, Ferguson and Wills. Or let's 1270 01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,960 Speaker 1: bring back Mark hill Martin. Maybe he will be the 1271 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,480 Speaker 1: key to Tastia's heart. Or what about Brian Osborne who 1272 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,960 Speaker 1: stole the heart of Sole my heart Andy season. I'm 1273 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,000 Speaker 1: not familiar with him at all. Do you have any 1274 01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,200 Speaker 1: memory familiar? Yeah? Yeah, I hung out with him maybe twice. 1275 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,080 Speaker 1: Very nice guy the first two I like, I love 1276 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:35,160 Speaker 1: going deep into the history for Paradise and bringing back oldies, 1277 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 1: but goodies. They keep it really fresh and current. But 1278 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:42,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, go back, bring back some some yester years. 1279 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,200 Speaker 1: Who's somebody that hasn't found someone? I feel like when 1280 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 1: I go back to all the memorable girls in recent 1281 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,560 Speaker 1: like past six years Bachelor history, almost all the girls 1282 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:56,919 Speaker 1: are taken. Now. My thing is there are people who 1283 01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,680 Speaker 1: go on the show and are not really emotionally available. 1284 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,080 Speaker 1: I think that's what I loved about you is because 1285 01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,520 Speaker 1: you were very honest about like wanting to find somebody. 1286 01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,480 Speaker 1: I think that's very rare, and that's what's silly about 1287 01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:15,560 Speaker 1: that show is because everyone's suppostion supposed to be very 1288 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:19,080 Speaker 1: emotionally available. Like what if Vienna showed up, Well, I 1289 01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,320 Speaker 1: would be fantastic. I used to stick up for Danielle, 1290 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:27,760 Speaker 1: my friend. Yeah, Danielle definitely. She just wants to Danielle. Yeah, 1291 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:31,080 Speaker 1: she just wants to get merried and and and she's 1292 01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,559 Speaker 1: so smart and beautiful and like has her own career 1293 01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:38,519 Speaker 1: aside from like Instagram all that kind of stuff. That's one. 1294 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,400 Speaker 1: Those are the types of people that like letters all 1295 01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:44,800 Speaker 1: the time about Roberto. Yeah, Roberto would be good too, 1296 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 1: but this is a little bit before well Roberto, and 1297 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,320 Speaker 1: he was a charmer and very local, but like, but like, 1298 01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,519 Speaker 1: is he like a guy that's willing to go back 1299 01:08:55,560 --> 01:09:00,519 Speaker 1: on the show six or seven thirty four? I heard 1300 01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,439 Speaker 1: rumors he was, but then I asked him to come 1301 01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:07,760 Speaker 1: on this podcast and he respectfully told me no, he's 1302 01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:14,640 Speaker 1: got a girlfriend. Remember, I think he has a girlfriend. 1303 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to say how I know that, but 1304 01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,400 Speaker 1: I have it on pretty good intel. I think he 1305 01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,280 Speaker 1: has a girlfriend. How old do you think he's too 1306 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:25,160 Speaker 1: old to go on The Bachelor? Amy says forty nine. 1307 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 1: I think you're going to start feeling left out at 1308 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:32,360 Speaker 1: around thirty seven. This is the terrible thing to say, 1309 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 1: but it's the absolute truth and whatever. You guys can 1310 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,840 Speaker 1: drag me for it. But for women, probably thirty two 1311 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:44,920 Speaker 1: and exactly and probably for guys forty forty got a 1312 01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,320 Speaker 1: four year old man? Have you ever seen the show? Well? 1313 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 1: Nick was thirties six when he was the Bachelor, so 1314 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:57,760 Speaker 1: he was getting close. And guess what would you be 1315 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,160 Speaker 1: your friends with Nick? I'm just an I love him. 1316 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,360 Speaker 1: Would you be completely shocked if Nick was on Paradise? 1317 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,000 Speaker 1: Want him to be he? Would you just leaning all 1318 01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,160 Speaker 1: the way? Would you be this is my question to 1319 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,439 Speaker 1: you on your show? Would you be shocked if Nick 1320 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,960 Speaker 1: shows up in Paradise? If he walks down those steps 1321 01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,439 Speaker 1: at thirty I don't even know thirty he's gonna be third? 1322 01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:22,280 Speaker 1: Is he gonna be thirty nine? What about Timber? Would 1323 01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,880 Speaker 1: you be shocked if he did it? Um? Maybe this season? Yeah, 1324 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:30,799 Speaker 1: but not next? Okay, so that's even worse. Amanda Stanton 1325 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,160 Speaker 1: showing up she's on I'm all know, but she's been 1326 01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,800 Speaker 1: on twice, but I'm all for it. I've been on 1327 01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,760 Speaker 1: three times and I would be down. So in Bachelor News, 1328 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,400 Speaker 1: it seems as if Amanda and her boyfriend Bobby of 1329 01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,320 Speaker 1: a year had broken up. But I just read something 1330 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,559 Speaker 1: that they were so good about a house. I read 1331 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,439 Speaker 1: an e News article on Wednesday or something that they 1332 01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:56,880 Speaker 1: seems to have fallen apart because he actually acknowledged it. 1333 01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,800 Speaker 1: I read quotes that he gave or respond on Instagram 1334 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,080 Speaker 1: that he'll always be there for the girls, and I 1335 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,559 Speaker 1: was like, well, that seems like it's true. What about 1336 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,599 Speaker 1: Nick and DEMI? I think it could be for real. 1337 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:14,400 Speaker 1: It's a thing ash on him a little bit. Show 1338 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,200 Speaker 1: definitely has a crush on him. But would Nick go 1339 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:21,760 Speaker 1: for a DEMI? Would Nick date another girl from the franchise? 1340 01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,360 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think he wouldn't have like 1341 01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,640 Speaker 1: two years ago, and I think he may now. I 1342 01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,920 Speaker 1: think that Nick's just looking for someone to challenge him, 1343 01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 1: and I think that that's someone that will challenge him, 1344 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:44,519 Speaker 1: and the thought of doing that show again with a 1345 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:48,040 Speaker 1: finish line and knowing that that's something that could be 1346 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:51,120 Speaker 1: a possibility will entice him a little bit. I haven't 1347 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:52,600 Speaker 1: talked to him about this at all, but it's just 1348 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,120 Speaker 1: tice him to have a finish line because he actually 1349 01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,439 Speaker 1: does want something serious yeah, and being like I'll go 1350 01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:01,240 Speaker 1: I'll go to Paradise. DEMI someone I mento, she's into me? 1351 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:07,400 Speaker 1: What if Ben ben Planic remember that guy? See I 1352 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,519 Speaker 1: thank you? Actually, I'd love to go deep. Let's let's 1353 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,600 Speaker 1: get a couple of these in there, being here in 1354 01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:16,360 Speaker 1: Napa Valley. You know, we could have texted Ben Planic 1355 01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,519 Speaker 1: Mary Mary with a lot of kids. What is Jesse 1356 01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,840 Speaker 1: Palmer's story? Jesse Palmer is doing well for himself. He's 1357 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,439 Speaker 1: got like no, he's got a couple of shows out there, 1358 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,519 Speaker 1: then a lot of models probably all right. My last 1359 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,559 Speaker 1: question for Wells is going to come from a game 1360 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,719 Speaker 1: that we played in the car on the way here. 1361 01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,360 Speaker 1: So we were like playing popcorn questions or whatever, and 1362 01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,080 Speaker 1: we were like all asking each other about relationships, whether 1363 01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,120 Speaker 1: it was like for single people or for like the 1364 01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:48,320 Speaker 1: Bury Together couples. And you're in a Berry Together couple. 1365 01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:53,000 Speaker 1: So you asked me and Jared he said, what are like, 1366 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,320 Speaker 1: what are basically something that you guys probably will never 1367 01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,880 Speaker 1: see eyed eye on? Or like what do you think 1368 01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,720 Speaker 1: your biggest issue is or what's your greatest annoyance? That 1369 01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,640 Speaker 1: was what I asked. Was then we made it a 1370 01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:07,200 Speaker 1: little bit deeper because little annoyances like clearing your throat 1371 01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,719 Speaker 1: is not a big deal. Which is a funny answer though, 1372 01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,680 Speaker 1: So you can choose. You can choose your question. But 1373 01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,120 Speaker 1: when in your relationship with Sarah, which you know, I 1374 01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,120 Speaker 1: understand if you want to keep it more private, But 1375 01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,280 Speaker 1: what's your biggest annoyance or what is something that you 1376 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:24,679 Speaker 1: guys will never you just agree to disagree on. There's 1377 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:28,920 Speaker 1: a good question. And what would she say about you? Two? 1378 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:34,000 Speaker 1: We got into a big fight. It wasn't a big fight, 1379 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,240 Speaker 1: but we got into a fight about whether or not 1380 01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:42,120 Speaker 1: you burn more calories doing cardio in comparison to weightlifting. 1381 01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,080 Speaker 1: And I was like, you burned him so much more 1382 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:48,040 Speaker 1: calories doing cardio and she was like, well, and then 1383 01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,880 Speaker 1: we started looking it up and when you start going 1384 01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:55,479 Speaker 1: into the internet, there are things going both ways. What 1385 01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,120 Speaker 1: I loved about the argument that we have, uh there 1386 01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,920 Speaker 1: was no right or wrong answer. And we both yelled 1387 01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,320 Speaker 1: at each other. It was so stupid and so much 1388 01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 1: it was laughing yelling at it actually got like he 1389 01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:12,160 Speaker 1: did well. I just wasn't gonna like pull back from 1390 01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:15,519 Speaker 1: like of course cardio burns more, cardio burns more like 1391 01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:22,320 Speaker 1: fast in the moment, but it doesn't like throughout the day. 1392 01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:26,400 Speaker 1: I think that's exactly what she said, This is so funny, 1393 01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,760 Speaker 1: this is amazing about this, and I was like, no, 1394 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:30,920 Speaker 1: that's stupid. And then we looked it up and she 1395 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,479 Speaker 1: was right, like, you guys are right, but I also 1396 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,680 Speaker 1: I was right. There there's no right answer to like 1397 01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,840 Speaker 1: it was so silly that she walked out of the 1398 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:42,000 Speaker 1: room because I was being me, which is very like 1399 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm right when i'm think i'm right, I'm then so 1400 01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:50,000 Speaker 1: she walked away, and then when she came back in, um, 1401 01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,000 Speaker 1: I was like on my phone, and I think she 1402 01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,240 Speaker 1: thought I was like scrolling through Instagram and I was 1403 01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:59,280 Speaker 1: like scrolling through articles about this exact thing, and I 1404 01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:03,320 Speaker 1: was like, okay, so and I saw I don't know 1405 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,080 Speaker 1: this is what this part of the podcast is about, 1406 01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,120 Speaker 1: but I think this is what's important. Was that I 1407 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,160 Speaker 1: realized that I wasn't right, but I wasn't wrong, but 1408 01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,840 Speaker 1: I knew that what I had done was not the 1409 01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:18,000 Speaker 1: greatest thing in the world. So I was like, so, 1410 01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:22,160 Speaker 1: I've been reading about this, and I think you're probably right. 1411 01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:24,960 Speaker 1: I think I'm a little bit right too, but I 1412 01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:26,880 Speaker 1: think that you're right. I think that no one's right, 1413 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,400 Speaker 1: and and then so she started laughing and being like, 1414 01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,799 Speaker 1: you're still doing this. I thought you were just extroly interesting. 1415 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:34,320 Speaker 1: I was like no, no, no no, no no. I was 1416 01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,240 Speaker 1: like trying to I was trying to make myself right. 1417 01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:39,680 Speaker 1: But then I realized in my research that I was 1418 01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,320 Speaker 1: not right. And I think it's a good thing to 1419 01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:47,800 Speaker 1: have an open mind about being a dip. I think 1420 01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:52,760 Speaker 1: it's important to remember that we're all dip and I 1421 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,960 Speaker 1: was wrong, even though I don't know what I was wrong, 1422 01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:58,639 Speaker 1: but I wasn't right. I wasn't right in the middle. Yeah, 1423 01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,200 Speaker 1: And those are the arguments that like they really get 1424 01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:06,960 Speaker 1: to because you just kind of can't drop it. You 1425 01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:08,640 Speaker 1: just can't drop it because like if both of you 1426 01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,360 Speaker 1: a personal right. One time I had nas. We were 1427 01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:15,040 Speaker 1: ordering Joe's pizza and it was we were like, is 1428 01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,760 Speaker 1: this the Joe's pizza from New York? And I was like, there's, 1429 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, the Joe's pizza, the one like on Sex 1430 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,600 Speaker 1: in the City and that like everybody talks about. So 1431 01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:26,519 Speaker 1: there's no way that this is the Joe's pizza. No way, 1432 01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,560 Speaker 1: And she was like it is. They came to l 1433 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:30,599 Speaker 1: A and they put one here. I'm like, you're wrong, 1434 01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:34,519 Speaker 1: and then she actually ended up calling the Joe's Pizza 1435 01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,599 Speaker 1: and they go, we used to be owned by that 1436 01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,600 Speaker 1: company that the original guy that he was, like the 1437 01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:45,240 Speaker 1: guy that started this one was not Joe, but like 1438 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,720 Speaker 1: Joe's like cousin or something that stole the recipe and 1439 01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:52,960 Speaker 1: started it. Here he goes, so technically we have like 1440 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,960 Speaker 1: the same recipe, but we're not Joe, Like, okay, well 1441 01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,160 Speaker 1: we are exactly both half right. Do you know what's 1442 01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,839 Speaker 1: funny about both the stories? They're both the dumbest stories, 1443 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,760 Speaker 1: like they're not real arguments. But I think it's I 1444 01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,719 Speaker 1: think it's fun um. I think it's it's a really 1445 01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,160 Speaker 1: hard thing to do. Like I'm not doing relationship stuff, 1446 01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:14,479 Speaker 1: but I think it's a really hard thing to do 1447 01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,080 Speaker 1: when you realize that, like it's still so dumb what 1448 01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:21,120 Speaker 1: you're doing, and you just like let it go. Because 1449 01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:24,000 Speaker 1: after Sarah and I was like a stupid thing about 1450 01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:30,720 Speaker 1: Carter Sarah and my whatever thanks mom where Ben goes 1451 01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:35,920 Speaker 1: wrong every week? I said what I said, and then 1452 01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,280 Speaker 1: she laughed about it, and then we had like a 1453 01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,800 Speaker 1: really like sweet moment of I think when she realized that, 1454 01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,439 Speaker 1: like I conceded and I was being stupid. That was 1455 01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,600 Speaker 1: like a wonderful moment, and I think there was like 1456 01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:50,280 Speaker 1: the moment everyone's looking for. You know, those are the 1457 01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,880 Speaker 1: bonding moments you break and then you heal even better 1458 01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,720 Speaker 1: together exactly. Yeah, And if you guys do want to 1459 01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,559 Speaker 1: listen to Jared and I talk over our relationship issues, 1460 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,880 Speaker 1: you can listen to the wine Down podcast because I'm 1461 01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,240 Speaker 1: plugging every I heard podcast today. So it's the wind 1462 01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,519 Speaker 1: Down Podcast with Janet Kramer and her husband Mike. And 1463 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:12,519 Speaker 1: this is the conclusion of the Almost Famous podcast. I'd 1464 01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,320 Speaker 1: like to say thank you to Third Love. Go to 1465 01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,680 Speaker 1: third love dot com slash famous now to find your 1466 01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:20,599 Speaker 1: perfect fitting bra and you'll get off your first purchase. 1467 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:26,000 Speaker 1: Thank you wells. Thank you to my guests Vanessa and 1468 01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:31,679 Speaker 1: Derek and Venmo, John otherwise known as just John, and 1469 01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:36,839 Speaker 1: who else, Julian and Blake jesus Um and then also 1470 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:42,120 Speaker 1: huge thanks to Napa Valley Wine Train. Definitely a very 1471 01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,400 Speaker 1: cool experience, especially if you've never been to the Napa 1472 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,280 Speaker 1: area before. And thank you to the River Terrace in 1473 01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:51,400 Speaker 1: for providing us somewhere to stay tonight. Alright, guys, thank 1474 01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,240 Speaker 1: you so much. For joining us. I've been Ashley and 1475 01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,640 Speaker 1: the job you note to do. I also think like 1476 01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:02,400 Speaker 1: the think Chris Harrison and Ben Higgins and Chris Sults 1477 01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,840 Speaker 1: and who else can we think right now? Follow the 1478 01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,720 Speaker 1: Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on I Heart 1479 01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,560 Speaker 1: Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts