Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong, and Jetty and know He Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 1: Well today, Trump tonight reports that the US is running
Speaker 1: low on missiles and said that leakers.
Speaker 2: Of that story are being hunted down. Oh we know
Speaker 2: one thing.
Speaker 1: They're not being hunted by missiles.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 3: Trump is dealing with leaks and shortages, which is actually
Speaker 3: pretty normal for an.
Speaker 2: Eighty year old man. I think.
Speaker 1: I resemble that remark. But uh, that's a troubling story.
Speaker 1: More on that a little bit later. So we had
Speaker 1: a little affair conversation a little bit ago where I
Speaker 1: mentioned I have resigned myself, at least today to the
Speaker 1: fact that we're about the last quarter of my life
Speaker 1: and my kids mostly entire lives are going to be
Speaker 1: through a very very tumultuous, difficult, different time than I
Speaker 1: was expecting or that I lived through. I have resigned
Speaker 1: myself to that part of it. I was listening to
Speaker 1: the Triggeronometry podcast. They had Peter Hitchins on. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you all know who Peter Hitchins is. He's
Speaker 1: Christopher Hitchins brother. He's as famous as Christopher Hitchins in
Speaker 1: England but not in the United States for some reason anyway,
Speaker 1: And he is the one hundred and eighty degreeoposity. He's
Speaker 1: a devout Catholic and conservative, but very smart guy. And
Speaker 1: they were talking about the economic situation in England and
Speaker 1: as he stated, he said, it's over. We're done. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just we're done. There's no coming back from this.
Speaker 1: Our financial situation. When he said, if you look at
Speaker 1: a family who is now uh using everything they have
Speaker 1: just to pay off the interest on their debt without
Speaker 1: touching the principle, you would you would look at that
Speaker 1: family and think they're doomed.
Speaker 2: It's it's just how it falls apart or what looks like.
Speaker 4: And especially if every solution excuse me, offered within that
Speaker 4: family would make the situation works. They're going exactly in
Speaker 4: the wrong direction with every policy prescription.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wasn't I didn't mean to talk about
Speaker 1: merely financial ruin, which were on the road to also.
Speaker 4: But oh, I know our audience and they love British
Speaker 4: fiscal policy, but all the other different things.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's just examples like that is going
Speaker 2: to happen.
Speaker 1: It's not a that I don't think quite I don't
Speaker 1: understand why people don't quite grasp that.
Speaker 2: It's math.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not a political opinion of any kind.
Speaker 1: It's just flat out match. But anyway, and they were
Speaker 1: talking about historically, you know, they use the example of
Speaker 1: the United States and the Great Depression, but just various
Speaker 1: times in world history where people thought this sort of
Speaker 1: thing couldn't happen, where everything got up ended and your
Speaker 1: whole life savings is gone, and your money is worthless
Speaker 1: and you got to start completely over, and now you're
Speaker 1: all living in one house and blah, just all these things.
Speaker 1: You just don't think it can happen to you. That's
Speaker 1: the way we're built, I guess, because if you thought
Speaker 1: it could happen to you, maybe it'd just be too
Speaker 1: appalling to go through every day if you constantly worried.
Speaker 2: Everything's falling apart.
Speaker 4: You can't live like that, no, But you can live
Speaker 4: knowing that that sort of thing will happen if you
Speaker 4: make a lot of bad decisions.
Speaker 1: Well, that's that is so, whether it's politically, financially, AI
Speaker 1: all the different things. The next twenty five years are
Speaker 1: going to be radically different than I thought they would
Speaker 1: be for my kids, right, And that's true. I'm worried
Speaker 1: about more worried about my kids than me by far.
Speaker 1: I never worry about this for myself. If I end
Speaker 1: up I don't know wherever, doing whatever, I don't care.
Speaker 1: But I do worry about the world my kids are
Speaker 1: coming into. Uh. But there's just there's I can't control it,
Speaker 1: and it's just gonna be. They're gonna live through a
Speaker 1: very interesting different world than I did.
Speaker 2: Right, There's just no getting around.
Speaker 1: It, you know.
Speaker 4: I summarize it by saying, as I often do, I'll
Speaker 4: be in the woods if you need me. I'm so
Speaker 4: flabbergasted and utterly unsure what to expect that I just
Speaker 4: I'm an old guy. My kids are older than your kids,
Speaker 4: so I don't worry about them as much. I figure,
Speaker 4: you know, I tried to bring them up to be
Speaker 4: resilient and optimistic and if anybody can make it, they'll
Speaker 4: make it. But yeah, it's utter insanity. And kind of
Speaker 4: on that theme, Joseph Sternberg wrote a great piece called
Speaker 4: US Voters Facing Midterm Election about Nothing, and he talked
Speaker 4: about the parties are more divided than ever. But he
Speaker 4: takes some shots of the Republicans, saying, what exactly are
Speaker 4: they running on in the midterms, What are they promising,
Speaker 4: what are they crafting, what are they assuring us that
Speaker 4: they can deliver to us? And I can't don't really
Speaker 4: think of anything, honestly. Well, I hate to opposing lefties,
Speaker 4: I hate to double down on British politics, which nobody
Speaker 4: cares about I do. Peter Hitchin's theory was, he said,
Speaker 4: at this point, because of the way the parties are,
Speaker 4: they have a similar problem that we do. The parties
Speaker 4: aren't what they used to be, and they are personality
Speaker 4: based and all these differences of problems, and they're not
Speaker 4: for anything. He said, All you can do right now
Speaker 4: is vote against the thing you think is the worst.
Speaker 4: There's nothing to vote for. All you can do is
Speaker 4: vote against the other guy if you think they're worst,
Speaker 4: the worse than than And that is what has been
Speaker 4: happening for several cycles here.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's probably where I'm I'm I'm not thrilled
Speaker 1: with a lot of Trump's ideas, and certainly is personality,
Speaker 1: but oh my god, do I think it's better than
Speaker 1: if we had gone further down the Dei Kamala Harris road.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you vote against what you think is worse. Sure,
Speaker 1: and Sternberg.
Speaker 4: Makes the point that one of the few political bodies
Speaker 4: in the country who are saying this is absolutely what
Speaker 4: we stand for and we're going to deliver it are
Speaker 4: the lunatics of the DSA, whose plans are utterly unworkable
Speaker 4: and would lead very very quickly to a single party
Speaker 4: totalitarian system, which obviously is horrifying and loathsome Meanwhile, and
Speaker 4: then he gets into one of your favorite topics, Jack,
Speaker 4: It leaves Americans in November the task of electing a
Speaker 4: Congress without having any idea what the Congress might actually do.
Speaker 4: What brought us to this nonsensical place. We're reaching the
Speaker 4: culmination of an era in which lawmakers collectively decided they
Speaker 4: care about priorities other than lawmaking. Decades ago, they started
Speaker 4: outsourcing to executive branch agencies the task of nitty gritty legislating.
Speaker 4: More recently, the abandonment of a regular budget procedure in
Speaker 4: favor of ad hoc down to the wire deals has
Speaker 4: centralized Congress's most important job with the leaders who concoct
Speaker 4: these agreements which means there's precious little for a typical
Speaker 4: lawmaker to do anymore. The lack of any day responsibility
Speaker 4: to legislate or negotiate leaves them ample opportunity and motive
Speaker 4: to turn each congressional seat into its own little bully
Speaker 4: pulpit on social media, and to be fair to them,
Speaker 4: voters perversely reward this type of behavior, ay ay yay,
Speaker 4: and he says it's profoundly unhealthy for our society. If
Speaker 4: lawmakers aren't required to make policy choices, then neither will
Speaker 4: voters be. Perhaps it's too much to expect a mid
Speaker 4: term campaign about, say, substantive social security reforms, but we're
Speaker 4: reaching the other extreme, in which voters are able to
Speaker 4: make choices based solely on vibes without having to consider
Speaker 4: policy trade offs. The collision of those vibes with economic
Speaker 4: and political reality invariably produces a particularly ugly form of disappointment.
Speaker 1: The rise of the DSA is one result, but it
Speaker 1: won't be the only one. I can think of a
Speaker 1: variety of analogies, but they're all not things I want
Speaker 1: to talk about, really, But there are just situations in
Speaker 1: life where you know, really wish that hadn't happened. It's
Speaker 1: really too bad that happened, because the alternative would have
Speaker 1: been great, but it didn't. The alternative didn't happen. This
Speaker 1: is what happened. So I guess this is.
Speaker 2: Where we are, right, That's just the way it's gonna be. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, human beings are very good at adjusting their sales.
Speaker 4: But as I've said a million times, after.
Speaker 1: A rocky period though, yeah, the problem is we're doing
Speaker 1: that cycle that you always talk about, and the the
Speaker 1: after the uh, hard guys make good times thing, when
Speaker 1: you get to the weak men make bad times.
Speaker 2: The bad times period is not going to be that
Speaker 2: much fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't YadA, YadA YadA. The bad time right, the
Speaker 1: rebuild with the new crowd of tough people, the next
Speaker 1: generation or two. I don't know how long it'll take,
Speaker 1: but that'll think a five. I'm fairly optimistic about that.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean the the bad time period is
Speaker 1: going to be you know, a real kick in the pants. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I was going to illustrate the greater point
Speaker 4: with a particular policy disagreement that's going on right now.
Speaker 4: A yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and do it. Hang
Speaker 4: with me for thirty seconds. Okay, thirty seconds.
Speaker 2: Tldn R.
Speaker 4: I know, so, Gary Peters, he's a Republican Michigan I'm
Speaker 4: sorry his Democratic Michigan senator is poop posting online leading
Speaker 4: the charge against something Republicans are trying to do. Quote
Speaker 4: President Trump is cutting important Medicare funding, raising prescription drug
Speaker 4: costs for millions of Americans. Okay, so yanking granny's medicine
Speaker 4: out of her medicine cabinet as usual, and it's not true.
Speaker 2: And then the columnist asks, do you remember.
Speaker 4: How Democrats use supposts savings from nationalizing student loans to
Speaker 4: pay for Obamacare. Yeah, kind of vaguely, mister Peters was
Speaker 4: alluding to a similar fiscal trick, which is resulting in
Speaker 4: more than half a trillion dollars in higher Medicare costs
Speaker 4: for seniors and taxpayers. Higher costs. The Trump administration is
Speaker 4: going to end a subsidy for Medicare Part D insures.
Speaker 4: The Biden team established the subsidy to stop plan premiums
Speaker 4: from rising before the twenty twenty four election as a
Speaker 4: result of the Inflation Reduction Act. But the IRA let
Speaker 4: Medicare officials engage imputative negotiations with drug makers, et cetera,
Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera. It required drug makers to pay
Speaker 4: the government rebates on medicine. Democrats claim the savings from
Speaker 4: these two provisions would pay for enhancements in Medicare Part D,
Speaker 4: including elimination of the coverage donahole. This goes on for
Speaker 4: three or four more paragraphs, describing the triple switcheroo of
Speaker 4: the utterly insane, ridiculously complicated, and completely dishonest funding mechanisms,
Speaker 4: and how the claims that we here in our popular
Speaker 4: politics are so completely divorced from the truth that there's
Speaker 4: no point in even uttering them. And I emerged from
Speaker 4: that article thinking can the democracy bounce back from being
Speaker 4: at this point in the progression toward incredibly immense, incomprehensibly
Speaker 4: complex government and utterly dishonest politics.
Speaker 1: What do we do? I don't know.
Speaker 2: With AI and the current media landscape.
Speaker 4: Right right, don't leap out windows, folks, I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: do up some hot dogs and burgers on the grill
Speaker 4: and hang out with your friends. You're gonna have a
Speaker 4: hell of a nice Friday.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've not only come to accept, but kind of embrace.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to just you know, make lemonade out of
Speaker 1: lemons where I'm like, you're gonna live through a really
Speaker 1: really exciting time. I mean, is this gonna be something
Speaker 1: to watch? So let's just let's do it. Let's get
Speaker 1: this on for the.
Speaker 2: Next twenty twenty five years. It's gonna be something. Wow,
Speaker 2: watch it, right about it? Talk about it?
Speaker 1: Whatever, sleep, drink whatever. It's gonna be something. Ah. Are
Speaker 1: you following the story about the diver who was pissed
Speaker 1: off at another diver and cut his air Oh?
Speaker 2: Have you seen this on a diving trip home?
Speaker 1: Make a bit of an overreaction?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that other stuff on the way. Stay here.
Speaker 5: According to the affidavit, eighteen year olds Hunter Coffer was
Speaker 5: diving using a floating air tank attached to a long
Speaker 5: hose called a Brownie third lung when another boat approached
Speaker 5: at a high rate of speed, circling the vessel several times.
Speaker 5: There was an argument over who was there first, and
Speaker 5: moments later they say they saw Simpson swim over to
Speaker 5: the air supply unit and intentionally.
Speaker 2: To it off.
Speaker 1: We have the team holds a safety.
Speaker 5: By his partner on the boat, who told police the
Speaker 5: boy was gasping for air.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is quite a story. So it's a prized
Speaker 1: lobster spot. You know you're in the best lobster Hey,
Speaker 1: we were here first. No, no, we were here first.
Speaker 1: We come here every time we were here first. You
Speaker 1: go in there, I'm turning off your air. The guy
Speaker 1: threatens beforehand, then jumps out, turns off the air for
Speaker 1: a guy, and they start yelling, as you heard the
Speaker 1: woman there. Hey, we got somebody down there, this eighteen
Speaker 1: year old down there. The guy on the other boat,
Speaker 1: the owner of the boat jumps in, pulls the eighteen
Speaker 1: year old out, gasping for breath, tangled up in hoses.
Speaker 2: Luckily, is okay.
Speaker 1: But according to experts, having your air turned off, even
Speaker 1: for a tiny bit when you're diving, can kill you.
Speaker 1: It can be a really really bad thing. Yeah, fifty
Speaker 1: one year old guy Michael Joseph Simpson being charged with
Speaker 1: attempted murder after turning this guy's water air off because
Speaker 1: we got to the lobster spot first.
Speaker 2: How crazy is that?
Speaker 1: Wow? Wow, he's being held on ten thousand dollars bond.
Speaker 1: Why isn't it eight million dollars bond? You've demonstrated being
Speaker 1: a complete lunatic, one hundred percent lunatic. Wow, that's quite
Speaker 1: got a good lobster spot. You want to defend it?
Speaker 1: And then chat GPT told me that having your air
Speaker 1: turned off is one of the great greatest things a
Speaker 1: diver can intentionally do to another's underwater Oh okay, thank
Speaker 1: you for that. That's why you're Chatt, that's why your
Speaker 1: artificial intelligence. And I'm just a regular guy, right right,
Speaker 1: well done, ya, this is my lobster diving spot.
Speaker 2: Say we will hear first.
Speaker 4: Like I was shooting him with a spear gun would
Speaker 4: be bad, right, what a cook?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't run into anybody that bad.
Speaker 1: But we've all run into people before where they have
Speaker 1: an irrational reaction to something that's way out of proportion
Speaker 1: to the problem. What a parking spot or whatever the
Speaker 1: hell it is, and just like what, Yeah, yeah, they're
Speaker 1: angry about something else? Oh is that I speaking? You
Speaker 1: think that's what it is? Usually it is, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if it is with the lobster guy, I
Speaker 1: would know.
Speaker 4: Well, and sometimes it's a specific something else, and sometimes
Speaker 4: it was that their life has been crappy, or they
Speaker 4: were used as kids or whatever. I mean, I've hardly
Speaker 4: met a bully who wasn't like knocked around by their dad.
Speaker 1: Anyway. Yeah, don't do that. It's horrible. Yeah, he could
Speaker 1: have just had an argument with his wife on the
Speaker 1: phone before they went out there, and you know, you
Speaker 1: just you don't know. Uh, here's some good news for you.
Speaker 1: It kind of fits in with what we were talking about
Speaker 1: last segment. One of your AI outfits in Palo Alto,
Speaker 1: a stone's throw from where we're broadcasting right.
Speaker 2: Now, has come up with a way to.
Speaker 1: Write recipes for entirely new viruses and, as it says
Speaker 1: in the New York Times, the modified bacteria.
Speaker 2: The blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: This would be an opportunity to create fantastic new anti
Speaker 1: viral drugs and vaccines, as well as to learn how
Speaker 1: viruses work. Oh fantastic. Then they're throwing the downside. It's
Speaker 1: hard to imagine a downside on the horizon. Oh, they
Speaker 1: did throw in this sentence. It also could be used
Speaker 1: by bad people to create dangerous pathogens that could kill
Speaker 1: everybody on Earth, and it'd be pretty easy to do
Speaker 1: and you wouldn't need much expertise. Oh okay, again, getting
Speaker 1: back to what we were talking about this next twenty
Speaker 1: five years is really going to be something.
Speaker 2: Everybody say whoo han.
Speaker 1: Everybody say whoo han. Any job with a smartphone could
Speaker 1: jump on AI and create the next Black plague if
Speaker 1: they decide they want to. All right this, it's we
Speaker 1: need to change gear. I am calling. This is an
Speaker 1: official call. I am filing an F thirty two right now.
Speaker 1: We must change gears? Is this too much doom saying
Speaker 1: it just doesn't.
Speaker 2: I'm just surprised at the New York Times and everybody.
Speaker 1: They always go with that positive spin when everybody's thinking
Speaker 1: about the negative spin in the back of their mind.
Speaker 1: I know journalists, well, what's going on in their brains?
Speaker 1: Partrong and Getty.
Speaker 3: New York City will pay hotels almost two billion dollars
Speaker 3: to house the homeless, which means tourists are now eligible
Speaker 3: for free rooms as long as they poop in the streets.
Speaker 1: I told my story about that sort of thing yesterday.
Speaker 1: If you missed it, get the podcast Armstrong and Getting
Speaker 1: on demand where there was that sort of incident the
Speaker 1: town I live in in California. A charming segment. Hope
Speaker 1: you enjoy it with the family. I don't know, charming
Speaker 1: the right word. So I've taken in a lot of
Speaker 1: Tuck Cark Carlson over the years. We've had him on
Speaker 1: the show many times. He was actually one of the
Speaker 1: more reasonable commentators on any of the channels for decades,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, And he had shows on all of
Speaker 1: the channels, and I watched him on Fox every single night.
Speaker 1: And at some point either went crazier, became a grifter
Speaker 1: or both. I don't know which, and nobody seems to
Speaker 1: know which. But uh, he left Fox, and he has
Speaker 1: his own podcast, and he's still very influential. He's getting
Speaker 1: the crazy, insane rich. And I haven't been listening to
Speaker 1: him for a while now. But according to Douglas Murray,
Speaker 1: who's been following for The Free Press, Tucker for several
Speaker 1: weeks now has been suggesting that America needs some kind
Speaker 1: of third party to save itself.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: There have been other people whispering about the idea of
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson running for a long time. I don't know
Speaker 1: that he's ever started those rumors or not. It's hard
Speaker 1: to say he in fact he anytime it's ever come up.
Speaker 1: He has said one thing I'm never going to do
Speaker 1: is run for office, and he's always seemed pretty believable
Speaker 1: that he means that. But anyway, he's talking about a
Speaker 1: third party a lot lately. Let me read from the
Speaker 1: Douglas Murray piece in the Free Press. The founding members
Speaker 1: of this third party that Tucker Carlson has been talking
Speaker 1: about recently would be an Avengers style team consisting of
Speaker 1: former Representative Marjorie Taylor Green, Thomas Massey, former counter terrorism
Speaker 1: director Joe Kent, and some of their spouses. Now, if
Speaker 1: you know some of these names, these are all people
Speaker 1: that are well in that world. It would be I'd
Speaker 1: be a jazzy group of people right there for your
Speaker 1: third party to show he means business. Tucker devoted in
Speaker 1: an entire hour and a half episode this week to
Speaker 1: his ten point plan to save America. Some people have
Speaker 1: suggested that Carlson is clearly lining up to run for
Speaker 1: political office. Others who have known him for years point
Speaker 1: out that Carlson has neither the discipline nor the patience
Speaker 1: required for a political run. We now have some fresh
Speaker 1: evidence of that. He seems to lack the patients to
Speaker 1: write down ten ten points. It says here without boring himself,
Speaker 1: the carlson plan to save America includes the following list
Speaker 1: of aims he believes our country must pursue. And I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, you don't accidentally put out a ten point
Speaker 1: plan talking about a third party every night for weeks. No,
Speaker 1: that's Scott. I'm I'm gonna run for office written all
Speaker 1: freaking over it. But anyway, his ten point plan is
Speaker 1: the country must pursue fairness, sovereignty, productivity, beauty, health, honesty, optimism, wisdom, decency,
Speaker 1: and unity.
Speaker 2: How could you be again to any of those?
Speaker 1: Like many lists created by Carlson's erstwhile staff, they are
Speaker 1: opponents on the Socialists left. There are slogans that are
Speaker 1: meant to be unopposable, right, or to put another way,
Speaker 1: as a logician taught me many years ago, and this
Speaker 1: is the sentence I really really like, because I've never
Speaker 1: come across this before.
Speaker 2: There is no point in uttering a.
Speaker 1: Phrase the opposite of which would be uttered only by
Speaker 1: a madman. I have never heard that before you.
Speaker 4: No, No, I've tried to express that myself, mockingly, taking
Speaker 4: the opposite position to illustrate how insane it would be
Speaker 4: for anybody to have that position. But yeah, It's like
Speaker 4: the ultimate straw man thing.
Speaker 1: If anybody ever stands up and says something that, well,
Speaker 1: the opposite of that would only be said by a crazy.
Speaker 2: Person, then they're what.
Speaker 1: A grifter, fooling you, playing on your emotions, something untowards
Speaker 1: something ain't cool there, because if you stand up and say,
Speaker 1: I'm for people having a good wage and love in
Speaker 1: their family, yeah, so is everybody but a madman.
Speaker 2: So what are you What is going on here?
Speaker 4: Well, to your question about what are they trying to do,
Speaker 4: here's something only a mad man would say. Yes, he's
Speaker 4: making incredibly dishonest arguments, but I wouldn't worry about it.
Speaker 4: They're up to something nefarious.
Speaker 1: That's pretty much all of politics, though, even with people
Speaker 1: that are like not, I don't think Barack Obama's necessarily nefarious.
Speaker 2: Some of you do, but I mean he ran on,
Speaker 2: you know, hope and change.
Speaker 1: Well, only a mad man would be against hope. I'm
Speaker 1: for despair and stasis myself. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Ah, so that's really interesting.
Speaker 1: Well anyway, I mean, that's so that's the game of politics, though,
Speaker 1: I mean, Douglas Murray can write that and that might
Speaker 1: be a logical fallacy or whatever. It is, But that
Speaker 1: seems to be the way politics work. You stand up
Speaker 1: and say that things that only an insane person would
Speaker 1: be against. That's how you get elected. Happens over and
Speaker 1: over and over again. But do you think Tucker Carlson's
Speaker 1: running for president? Oh gosh no, I'm so troubled and
Speaker 1: by everything he's doing and saying these days. I just
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's one of his kicks recently is that the Jews
Speaker 4: are to blame for Christians demonizing Islam. I mean, is
Speaker 4: he simultaneously on Russia's payroll end cutters. I don't know
Speaker 4: what's going on there. It's just so insane. You ask
Speaker 4: any Christian in the Middle East if they if they agree,
Speaker 4: even one of them.
Speaker 1: Sucker. So you're saying that, like if he were running
Speaker 1: for president, that probably doesn't make sense to try to
Speaker 1: get the nomination or win. Oh no, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I think he is.
Speaker 4: So there is something very very powerful going on in
Speaker 4: his life, in his brain.
Speaker 1: He's getting crazy rich that would destory you. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: suppose so.
Speaker 4: But whatever's going on renders me completely unable to predict
Speaker 4: what he's going to do.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. He had that crazy historian on
Speaker 1: again the other day. I was actually gonna watch that
Speaker 1: episode because I listened to Cooper.
Speaker 2: I listened to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw some of the cootes from him, and man,
Speaker 1: he doubled down on some of his nuttiness about who
Speaker 1: caused World War two and the Jews and all kinds
Speaker 1: of different stuff. I don't know, but we we live
Speaker 1: in such a strange time. People are grasping for something.
Speaker 1: Everything's all divided up. The parties don't stand for anything,
Speaker 1: particularly as you were talking about earlier. Why I don't
Speaker 1: know why Tucker couldn't get the nomination. It's so hard
Speaker 1: for a third party though. That's that was the brilliance
Speaker 1: of Trump really, that he didn't try to do third party.
Speaker 1: He took over one of the existing parties. You almost
Speaker 1: have to take over one of the existing parties.
Speaker 4: And treism they call it in Bolshevik circles. That's what
Speaker 4: the DSAY is doing with the Democratic Right. I'll say
Speaker 4: it open.
Speaker 1: Also clever, because you're never gonna get anywhere. The two
Speaker 1: parties have done such a good job of rigging the game.
Speaker 1: They can keep you out. You get in, you take
Speaker 1: over one of the current parties, and it's still hard.
Speaker 1: Bernie tried to and couldn't. Yet Trump did, But I
Speaker 1: don't know. So I don't think Tucker could get into
Speaker 1: the Republican Party and take it over.
Speaker 2: I don't think. Maybe I'm wrong, I'd be rough.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm out of predict I'm out of the that's
Speaker 4: too crazy, it'll never happen predicting business. I just I
Speaker 4: could picture versually anything.
Speaker 2: But you have to look at the process.
Speaker 1: Could Tucker announce he's running and I don't know what
Speaker 1: the Republican schedule is. South Carolina's number one for the Democrats,
Speaker 1: as I was still first for the Republicans. Either way,
Speaker 1: whatever state it is, it's going to be a tiny
Speaker 1: state with a tiny voting turnout for the for the
Speaker 1: you know, the first contest for the nomination. Could I
Speaker 1: imagine Tucker winning that? Hell yeah, you're thinking. I agree
Speaker 1: with everything you've said. I just think you're thinking too
Speaker 1: short term. Bernie is to the DSA as maybe Tucker
Speaker 1: would be to us. A JD vance would be to
Speaker 1: a Tucker type character. It'll take three more cycles of
Speaker 1: growing their influence within the party, and then they will
Speaker 1: be the party that's the that's the strategy, certainly, and
Speaker 1: I've seen it work in politics in this country. And
Speaker 1: another one's yeah, that's that's a model, and that's true.
Speaker 1: But then there's the Trump model. You just show up
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, everybody dismisses you, and you railroad it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you just get such a head of steam
Speaker 1: going so fast and they're just they can't resist. Four
Speaker 1: people can even figure out what the hell's going on.
Speaker 1: It's over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's obviously. And you know this a once in
Speaker 4: a generation or two talent.
Speaker 1: Maybe whatever whatever that that'll ever happen. But it did
Speaker 1: happen that way once.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, you've dropped his name. You had
Speaker 4: a barely got elected Senator of Illinois just because the
Speaker 4: original guy was forcing his wife into sex parties. But
Speaker 4: this guy was never accomplished squad other than being good
Speaker 4: looking and articulate. So all of a sudden the president
Speaker 4: of the United States because he gives pretty speeches. So yeah,
Speaker 4: it's it's happened several times in the last twenty years,
Speaker 4: well a couple of times anyway.
Speaker 2: Underappreciated.
Speaker 1: Part of the whole Barack Obama story is how he
Speaker 1: would have never ever made it to the Senate if
Speaker 1: there hadn't been that weird sex thing with that one dude. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was coasting to victory. Yeah that's wild. Yeah yeah, Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't remember a lot of times
Speaker 1: where people who are being whispered about as presidential candidates
Speaker 1: put out ten point plans and don't run. But we'll see, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we shall see.
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Speaker 4: I was gonna say something, but I didn't want to
Speaker 4: be hurtful. Ah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, So let's see
Speaker 4: something that's not disturbing thing anything. I like this made
Speaker 4: up words slopulism. Yeah, this is discouraging too.
Speaker 1: I don't fully I don't fully understand the term slop
Speaker 1: in general. I hear people using it all the time.
Speaker 1: That slop, AI slap, that slop? What are they talking about?
Speaker 1: It has the various uses.
Speaker 4: As you know, Jack, is it a bucket full of
Speaker 4: things you feed to a hog?
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the online version.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this, well, this is yet which was my point,
Speaker 4: if you would wait a second. This is kind of
Speaker 4: a variation on that too. Online slop is like everything
Speaker 4: everybody posts. It's only mildly interesting. It's an okay ai picture,
Speaker 4: but there are millions of them, and just there's just
Speaker 4: too much mediocre everything. And I actually read one thing
Speaker 4: that and look, y'all live your own lives.
Speaker 1: And and.
Speaker 4: I really, I seriously don't judge you because I don't care.
Speaker 2: That's nice.
Speaker 1: Well, that's I'm being one hundred percent sincere.
Speaker 2: I believe it.
Speaker 4: If you want to live your life in a way
Speaker 4: different than mine, you have that right, and I congratulate you.
Speaker 2: It's like Jerry Seinfeld always says.
Speaker 1: I've seen him say this so many times on various
Speaker 1: interviews and podcasts where they say something kind of critical
Speaker 1: about something and they'll say, you know, offense, and he
Speaker 1: always says.
Speaker 2: You can't offend me. I don't care what you think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good place, it's a comfy place. Come
Speaker 1: visit me someday.
Speaker 4: Anyway, I read some thinker talking about not turning your
Speaker 4: life into online slop, meaning don't submit your videos of
Speaker 4: yourself and your vacation and your kids and all, because
Speaker 4: nobody's really entertained by it, and it perverts your sense
Speaker 4: of your own life. Your life is not online slop anyway.
Speaker 4: But again, live your life. How are you on? Welcome
Speaker 4: to the age of slopulism. Bad populist ideas pushed for
Speaker 4: ideological reasons, and the world is full of it on
Speaker 4: both sides. The grocer Donnie's Grocery Store is slopulism. It's
Speaker 4: a terrible idea. It's unworkable. The other day, Trump's saying
Speaker 4: the oil companies are making too much money and they
Speaker 4: ought to give it back to the American people, and
Speaker 4: they're greedy. That's slopulism. It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 1: How about the new La County landlords have to keep
Speaker 1: your house at seventy two degrees, seventy eight degrees whatever,
Speaker 1: it is a certain temperature that'll be mandated without people
Speaker 1: thinking through the idea, Well, if they have to spend
Speaker 1: this much money on energy bills, they're going to raise
Speaker 1: my rent, right, And if they're not allowed to raise
Speaker 1: my rent, they're just ain't going to be any randalls.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And actually that was Noah Smith's point
Speaker 4: in writing this article was talking about stuff that yields
Speaker 4: the opposite result of what you claim it's going to yield.
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, Gavin Newsom's twenty dollars is just
Speaker 4: for most fast food workers minimum wage, which has put
Speaker 4: thousands of them out of work, slopulism.
Speaker 2: It's idiotic, man.
Speaker 1: There's some heavyweights that are gonna go campaign with uh
Speaker 1: that dude up in Michigan. Al sayed, yeah, we got
Speaker 1: to read his full name. I didn't realize his full name.
Speaker 1: It's very long. When we talk about that an hour,
Speaker 1: three lots on the way, stay here are.
Speaker 2: Strong hey.
Speaker 1: Fifteen as mutating, it would be enormously dangerous.
Speaker 2: Spiders have three life cycles.
Speaker 1: When between the cycles it can't leave. Despite a vulnerable
Speaker 1: to threats.
Speaker 2: We are faced with a danger, but we can't control
Speaker 2: one we can't even see. So do you want me
Speaker 2: to be a pandemic pain in the ass? I just
Speaker 2: think they're do what you do best? Or why change now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were so many options, and then it's my
Speaker 1: turn to point on because I want to point out
Speaker 1: that a bite from a radio active spider would mostly
Speaker 1: cause a painful lesion. That's all not make you a
Speaker 1: superhero fights crime. It's highly unlike it as many relationships
Speaker 1: with hot chicks. Yes, Katie, have you you a Spider
Speaker 1: Man person? Not really. Both my kids have gone to
Speaker 1: the New Spider Man brand New Day. I don't dig
Speaker 1: I don't understand Tom Hollins's appeal. The fact that he's
Speaker 1: in The Odyssey and Spider Man at the same time
Speaker 1: also bothers me. There's so many people on planet Earth.
Speaker 1: Do we need to have the same movie star in
Speaker 1: the two biggest movies happening at the same time.
Speaker 2: It just seems weird to me. But people get hot
Speaker 2: and then they put them in every movie. I don't get.
Speaker 2: I like, I'm more manly superhero. But regardless of.
Speaker 1: That, play at the closet door, Michael, anyway, for the second.
Speaker 2: Time you stepping out today? Yeah, so another word, I'm
Speaker 2: not turned on by Tom Holland.
Speaker 1: So like America, the original Captain America, I'm like, now
Speaker 1: that's a dude right there, look at that guy, the
Speaker 1: Spider Man.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but.
Speaker 1: So I just uh. I did the quick little chat
Speaker 1: GPT search how well's the Spider Man doing? And I've
Speaker 1: heard this endless times on newscasts. It's broken all the records.
Speaker 1: They had the biggest weekend in Canada and the United
Speaker 1: States of any movie, beating out Avengers Endgame. Then I
Speaker 1: ask the question, anybody that's even got any intellectual huffed
Speaker 1: whatsoever would ask, how about adjusted for inflation?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: No, Endgame is still bigger by quite a bit if
Speaker 1: you adjust for inflation. And not that it matters what
Speaker 1: the number one movie is, but just I just don't like.
Speaker 2: And it's entertainment. The topic doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I just don't like people's lack of understanding about the
Speaker 1: economy and inflation and dollars and says because it factors
Speaker 1: into all the politics stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, the example of slopulism I didn't get to was
Speaker 4: rent control, which is just the ultimate that is the king,
Speaker 4: Queen and Jester of counterproductive populist policies. It ruins your
Speaker 4: ability to find affordable rent. Well, yeah, so here here
Speaker 4: I am. You know, you can talk about Spider Man.
Speaker 4: It's the biggest movie opening his head. Oh my god,
Speaker 4: I loved it. My kids thought I loved it too.
Speaker 1: You and you can have that conversation that probably is
Speaker 1: more appealing and more people like it and you make
Speaker 1: more money, or I can point out that Endgame came
Speaker 1: out in twenty nineteen. We've had roughly thirty percent cumulative
Speaker 1: inflation since twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Thirty percent, that's the story.
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, God dang it. I didn't think that's where
Speaker 1: this was going. But why why.
Speaker 2: Pretend that beat out? And because I don't know whatever,
Speaker 2: Live live your enjoyable life.
Speaker 4: I guess our politicians and the media are spinning a
Speaker 4: spider web of lies.
Speaker 2: If you will, they aren't.
Speaker 1: So you're saying you get big by a radioactive spider.
Speaker 1: You're not a superhero with a hot chicken girlfriend. Right,
Speaker 1: Radiation burns and the painful lesion is really all you can.
Speaker 2: Expect, probably somemothing bedtime. Oh about it, Armstrong and Getty