WEBVTT - Five Historical Robots

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class from house

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<v Speaker 1>stuff Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Holly Fry, I'm Tracy V. Wilson Fan. I'm willing

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<v Speaker 1>to bet Tracy that when you hear the term or robots,

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<v Speaker 1>you think of things like Honda's Asimo or the I

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<v Speaker 1>Robot roomba that might tutor around the house tidying up floors.

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<v Speaker 1>I think of the bad Robot TV placard, Yeah, from

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<v Speaker 1>J J. Abrams production company. Um, but they were actually

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<v Speaker 1>way long before check playright. Carol Kapok coined the term

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<v Speaker 1>robot in his Are You Are, which did for Rassam's

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<v Speaker 1>Universal Robots. Uh, there were mechanized creations automata that we're

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<v Speaker 1>being created without electronics or computers, and many were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fairly simple, but they really paved the way for robots

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<v Speaker 1>of today. So if you do a search for first

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<v Speaker 1>robot or earliest robot online, you're probably going to find

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of different conflicting answers. Some of them are philosophical,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them are mythological, and some of them are religious. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that clockwork devices go back many, many, many years,

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<v Speaker 1>but most historians on the subject are not really eager

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<v Speaker 1>to pinpoint which exact one was first. Yeah, there's there

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<v Speaker 1>are too many possible answers, because there are some mythological

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<v Speaker 1>ones that aren't necessarily supported with hard evidence. Those ones,

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<v Speaker 1>they're a little bit tricky. Some people even refer to

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<v Speaker 1>like the biblical story of creation as kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>first um, almost robotics experiment sort of thing. Uh so there,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really hard. I mean, you get into a big

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<v Speaker 1>philosophical debate with people if you say this was the

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<v Speaker 1>first robot we know about for sure, because you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some other options. Yeah, so you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Some of them are so far back in

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<v Speaker 1>his that this substantiation for them is just not add clear, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna look back at the early history of

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<v Speaker 1>mechanized beings and clockworks and steampowered mini marvels, So you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna hear us talk about the DARPA big dog

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<v Speaker 1>or the Mars curiosity rover. We're going incredibly old school

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<v Speaker 1>with this list, so nothing past the late seventeen hundreds,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have just selected five for the sake of

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<v Speaker 1>podcast length. But of course that means leaves out many

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<v Speaker 1>many others, because there really are many more examples of

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<v Speaker 1>this than I think many people realize. So think of

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<v Speaker 1>this as just a sampling of some of mankind's ventures

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<v Speaker 1>into automated beings. And really I'm telling a fib when

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<v Speaker 1>I say it's five, it's sort of five instances, but

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<v Speaker 1>some of them feature more than one. Yes, automota. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be fun. We're fudging our numbers, We're

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<v Speaker 1>doing it with a good heart. Yes uh. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to start with one that is not easily substantiated.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going off of one text, but it's important, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's Yan Cheese Automated Man. So the first one is

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<v Speaker 1>in China. The reference to it can be found in

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<v Speaker 1>a third century b c E. Taoist text, and the

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<v Speaker 1>course of this text, a story is told of Kingmu

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<v Speaker 1>of Chow, who reigned from nine to b c. E.

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<v Speaker 1>In it, this so called artifice their presents an automated

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<v Speaker 1>man to the king and his book Science and Civilization

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<v Speaker 1>in China, Volume two, writer Joseph Needham quotes a translated

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<v Speaker 1>text about this autuma time, and in his quote he

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<v Speaker 1>says the king stared at the figure in astonishment. It

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<v Speaker 1>walked with rapid strides, moving its head up and down,

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<v Speaker 1>so that anyone would have taken it for a live

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<v Speaker 1>human being. The artificer touched its chin, and it began

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<v Speaker 1>singing perfectly in tune. He touched its hand, and it

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<v Speaker 1>began posturing, keeping perfect time. As the performance was drawing

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<v Speaker 1>to an end, the robot winked its eye and made

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<v Speaker 1>advances to the ladies in attendance, whereupon the king became

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<v Speaker 1>incensed and would have had young she executed on the spot,

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<v Speaker 1>had not the latter, in mortal fear, instantly taken the

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<v Speaker 1>robot to pieces to let him see what it really was,

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<v Speaker 1>and indeed, it turned out to be only a construction

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<v Speaker 1>of leather, wood, glue, and lacquer, variously colored white, black, red,

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<v Speaker 1>and blue. Examining it closely, the king found all the

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<v Speaker 1>internal organs complete, liver, gall heart, lungs, spleen, kidneys, stomach

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<v Speaker 1>and intestines. And over these again muscles, bones and limbs

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<v Speaker 1>with their joints, skin, teeth, and hair, all of them artificial.

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<v Speaker 1>The king tried the effect of taking away the heart,

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<v Speaker 1>and found that the mouth could no longer speak. He

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<v Speaker 1>took away the liver and the eyes could no longer see.

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<v Speaker 1>He took away the kidneys and the legs lost their

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<v Speaker 1>power of locomotion. The king was delighted. So, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>an often referred to text when people talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>history of robots. And we don't have evident heart evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of this automaton, but it's significant that it would have

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<v Speaker 1>been mentioned in a historical Taoist text that refers back

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred years. Uh. It evidences this fascination with mechanical

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<v Speaker 1>beings going way way way back into ancient history so early. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be delighted too if I were the king,

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<v Speaker 1>who would not. Uh. So that's our first one, and

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<v Speaker 1>the second one is a little more recent than that.

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<v Speaker 1>This one was a pigeon created by Archiitis of Tarentum

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<v Speaker 1>and Archaetis was born around BC in a Greek controlled

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<v Speaker 1>territory that's now part of southern Italy. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>very accomplished man. He was a philosopher, a mathematician, an astronomer,

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<v Speaker 1>a statesman, and a commander in chief. And sometimes he

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<v Speaker 1>gets called the father of mechanics. He said to be

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<v Speaker 1>the most advanced of the Pythagorean mathematicians, and he classified

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<v Speaker 1>mathematics into four divisions, geometry, arithmetic, astronomy, and music. He

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<v Speaker 1>was really influential in his time, and Archidis also influenced

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<v Speaker 1>the work of Plato and Toddle. In fact, he said

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<v Speaker 1>to have rescued Plato from Dionysius the Second. But historians

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<v Speaker 1>are generally pretty quick to point out that the relationship

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<v Speaker 1>between Plato and Architis was a complex one. It was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty complicated. They had similar stances on many philosophical issues,

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<v Speaker 1>but they also had some pretty obvious disagreements. But for

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<v Speaker 1>today's interest, the accomplishment of Architis that's the most relevant

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<v Speaker 1>is a mechanical bird. This bird, which he called simply

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<v Speaker 1>the pigeon, was suspended at the end of a pivoting bar.

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<v Speaker 1>It moved in revolutions around the bar, either using a

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<v Speaker 1>jet of steam or compressed air. And while the bird,

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<v Speaker 1>which was created somewhere between four hundred and three fifty

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<v Speaker 1>b C. Is often listed as a footnote to Architis's

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<v Speaker 1>body of work, it's really important to remember that he

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<v Speaker 1>built this mechanism more than two thousand years ago, So

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<v Speaker 1>it was this very simple little robotic pigeon. Yes, some

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<v Speaker 1>people point to it as the first robot and recorded

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<v Speaker 1>history but as we mentioned earlier, and it's a claim

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people are just not willing to

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<v Speaker 1>make for sure about any of these. And now there's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a big jump to our next one, because

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<v Speaker 1>we are getting to Da Vinci, who many people know

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<v Speaker 1>was really interested in mechanics. Uh. And so Leonardo was

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<v Speaker 1>born in April of fourtift two. He's one of history's

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<v Speaker 1>most famous men. So we all know his famous paintings

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<v Speaker 1>like the Last Supper and the Mona Lisa, and his

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<v Speaker 1>drawings of these Truvian man So he's not really a

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<v Speaker 1>mystery to anyone who has even a passing knowledge of history.

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<v Speaker 1>Late in his life, in fifteen fifteen, he created this

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<v Speaker 1>automatal lion, allegedly to present to King France. At first,

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<v Speaker 1>the faux feline was said to have walked forward toward

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<v Speaker 1>the king, opened up its chest and revealed a cluster

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<v Speaker 1>of lilies. And while there's some lack of specificity about

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<v Speaker 1>the original lion uh and Leonardo did not leave any

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<v Speaker 1>sketches of it, he did make detailed sketches of the

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<v Speaker 1>mechanisms that he likely used in its construction, and he

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<v Speaker 1>left some notes as well. And in two thousand nine,

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<v Speaker 1>Renato Boretto, a master builder of automata, use those sketches

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<v Speaker 1>and da Vinci's notes and he actually recreated the lion.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really really interesting to watch. You can find video

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<v Speaker 1>of it online and will link to some of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's kind of sobering to watch this sample

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<v Speaker 1>of robotics that's based on early fifteen hundreds ingenuity, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's still a pretty impressive piece today. To see this,

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<v Speaker 1>it almost looks like a giant toy. It's life size,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's you know, carved, so it doesn't look like

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<v Speaker 1>a real lion, but it just it moves along and

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of has wheels and its feet and it

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<v Speaker 1>rolls as its legs move along the floor, and it

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<v Speaker 1>tilts its head side to side, and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>mind blowing to me to think that that was designed

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of years ago. Leonardo also designed a fully automated

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<v Speaker 1>man that was styled to look like an armored knight,

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<v Speaker 1>with a rope and gear mechanism to raise and move

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<v Speaker 1>the limbs, but there's no record of this actually being built.

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<v Speaker 1>Italian robotics historians have also constructed a machine based on

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<v Speaker 1>these designs. Yeah, it's um it can't do quite the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of moving on its own that the lion can,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why we focused on the lion for this one.

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought that the the armored man she cold

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<v Speaker 1>at least to mention. And then we get to a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of entries that are really really mind blowing. The

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<v Speaker 1>first is Kanson's flute player, and like I said, this

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<v Speaker 1>one is U kind of a two for it's not

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<v Speaker 1>really just the one. We're going to talk about his

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<v Speaker 1>famous duck automaton as well, which when I have mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>to our colleagues that we were working on this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone asked about the duck and I just kind of shrug.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get there. So Jacques de Vokinson was born in

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<v Speaker 1>Grenoble on February seventeen o nine, and he was the

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<v Speaker 1>youngest child of ten born to a glovemaker and a

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<v Speaker 1>devout Catholic wife. And the story goes that Jacques was

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with mechanical things at a very young age. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>he studied with the Jesuits as a youngster. He even

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<v Speaker 1>entered a monastery but the age of sixteen as a

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<v Speaker 1>means of supporting his scientific studies because at that point

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<v Speaker 1>his father was gone and his mother couldn't really just

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<v Speaker 1>pay for him to play in his mechanized world. And

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<v Speaker 1>then later in sight, he left the monastery to study

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<v Speaker 1>medicine and anatomy in Paris, and throughout his life of

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<v Speaker 1>Wilkinson was inspired by medical science, and his passion for

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<v Speaker 1>an insight into the workings of anatomy garnered him several

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<v Speaker 1>patrons that supported his work through the years. His most

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<v Speaker 1>famous automaton was a gold plated copper duck. And what

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<v Speaker 1>a duck it was. It could do many of the

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<v Speaker 1>things real ducks could do. It could it could quack

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<v Speaker 1>and drink water, and flap its wings and mimic the

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<v Speaker 1>digestive process, reminding me of many novelty items owned by

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<v Speaker 1>my grandfather. So yes, it's the famous pooping robot duck.

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<v Speaker 1>If everybody knows about uh, you know, it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the like when you go, oh, ancient robots like pooping

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<v Speaker 1>robot duck. Right. Yes. In a letter written to the

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<v Speaker 1>Abbe de Fontaine, he wrote, my second machine or automaton

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<v Speaker 1>is a duck in which I represent the mechanism of

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<v Speaker 1>the intestines which are employed in the operations of eating, drinking,

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<v Speaker 1>and digestion, where in the working of all the parts

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<v Speaker 1>necessary for these actions is exactly imitated. The duck stretches

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<v Speaker 1>out its neck to take corn out of your hand,

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<v Speaker 1>It swallows it, digested and discharges it digested by the

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<v Speaker 1>usual passage. And I feel compelled to know it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually digested it. There was no chemical breakdown of whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you handed it. You could hand it buttons and it

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<v Speaker 1>would those would pass through its automated little system. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think when modern ears here they think of it

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<v Speaker 1>as this cookie novelty thing. But really he was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to represent a full um anatomical being. Like to him,

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<v Speaker 1>it was more about the science of and study of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, biology than it was like, look, my duck poops.

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<v Speaker 1>Not so much to be something you would buy in

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<v Speaker 1>the back of a spencer gift, but that duck was

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<v Speaker 1>actually created to boost attendance at an exhibit of another

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<v Speaker 1>of Vokinson's works, which was his Automatic Flute Player. The

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<v Speaker 1>flute player was allegedly conceived in a fevered state while

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<v Speaker 1>he was ill. A famous marble statue by sculptor Antoine

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<v Speaker 1>Koiservo was the inspiration for the shape of the figure,

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<v Speaker 1>although Wolkenson's version was made of wood and then painted

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<v Speaker 1>to look like marble. And this figure was five point

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<v Speaker 1>five feet tall, which is about one point seven meters. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the modern book Living Dolls the Magical History

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<v Speaker 1>of the Question Mechanical Life Gabby Wood rights of the

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<v Speaker 1>Mechanical Flute Player, nine bellows were attached to three separate

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<v Speaker 1>pipes that led into the chest of the figure. Each

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<v Speaker 1>set of three bellows was attached to a different weight

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<v Speaker 1>to give out varying degrees of air, and then all

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<v Speaker 1>pipes joined into a single one equivalent to a trachea,

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<v Speaker 1>continuing up through the throat and widening to form the

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<v Speaker 1>cavity of the mouth. The lips, which bore upon the

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<v Speaker 1>whole of the flute, could open and close and move

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<v Speaker 1>backwards or forwards. Inside the mouth was a movable metal

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<v Speaker 1>tongue which governed the airflow and created pauses. This automaton breathed,

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<v Speaker 1>which is cool. It's really cool. Um. It's an incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>complex design. And of course, uh, you know, the flute

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<v Speaker 1>is a hard instrument to play when you're an actual human.

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<v Speaker 1>So he had to do something tricky. Yes, So, borrowing

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<v Speaker 1>from his family's roots, he gave the flute player's hands

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<v Speaker 1>a skin covering to mimic the soft touch that you

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<v Speaker 1>need to play a flute. That's a tricky instrumental master

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<v Speaker 1>even for people, and his macanoid minstrel could play twelve

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<v Speaker 1>different tunes. And this flute player went on display on

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<v Speaker 1>February eleventh of set eight, and the cost of entry

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<v Speaker 1>to see this marvel was roughly equivalent to a week's

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<v Speaker 1>worth of wages for the average manual laborer. So this

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<v Speaker 1>was a serious money maker because people were paying that

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<v Speaker 1>to go see it. I mean it was too fantastical

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<v Speaker 1>to skip, uh, which is why when the attendants fell off,

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<v Speaker 1>Vokinson added the duck to the exhibit, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>another piece called the Tambourine Player. In an effort to

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<v Speaker 1>bring audiences back and keep the money flowing. He sold

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<v Speaker 1>off his mechanical creations in one and at that point

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<v Speaker 1>became Francis Inspector of silk manufacturer. His adventures in that

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<v Speaker 1>job could really be their own podcasts, they really could.

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<v Speaker 1>He really sort of revolutionized looms um. But the flute

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<v Speaker 1>player in the other automeda changed hands several times, and

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<v Speaker 1>the flute player was last seen in the possession of

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<v Speaker 1>Gottfried Christoph Barres, doctor to the Duke of Brunswick, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he disappeared from history. After the doctor's death, the

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<v Speaker 1>duck turned up a couple more times, and uh, there

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<v Speaker 1>are allegedly there are pictures of it or something that's

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<v Speaker 1>very much like it that you can find online. But

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<v Speaker 1>the flute player, we don't. We don't know where it landed,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a pity because I would really love to

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<v Speaker 1>see how that works. And then for our final entry

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<v Speaker 1>in our list of five instances, there are actually three

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<v Speaker 1>pieces in this but uh, they're quite marvelous. Yes, they're

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<v Speaker 1>the work of Pierre Jacquedras, who was born on July

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen twenty one in Switzerland. His family was primarily involved

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<v Speaker 1>in two modes of employment, farming and watchmaking, and in

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen thirty eight Jacquedras opened up his own watch shop

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<v Speaker 1>in Le chad Defont, and initially he specialized in pendulum clocks,

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<v Speaker 1>but eventually he turned his attention to automated mechanisms and

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<v Speaker 1>eventually began to sell small automeda to a special clients.

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<v Speaker 1>I also feel like we should mentioned that he is

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of a side note, but he's often credited

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<v Speaker 1>with creating a wristwatch. So he was very much into

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<v Speaker 1>shrinking mechanisms down, which plays into his work in Automeda.

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<v Speaker 1>In seventeen seventy four, he and his son Henri Louis,

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<v Speaker 1>and a clock maker, Jean Frederick less Show presented their

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<v Speaker 1>three creations, which are still considered to be marvels of

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<v Speaker 1>mechanical engineering. The Musician is the first one, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a female and um she plays an organ, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not an actual organ, it's a custom instrument that looks

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<v Speaker 1>like an organ, and she will bow at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of her performances, and she plays five different tunes, and

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<v Speaker 1>the mechanical works are actually all concealed beneath her gown,

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<v Speaker 1>but her fingers move super briskly and they tap along

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<v Speaker 1>at the instrument's keys, and it's really quite something to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>The draftsman can draw floor pictures, and he'll also blow

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<v Speaker 1>dust and graphite off of this page. And the draftsman

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<v Speaker 1>looks more like a little boy, and he looks almost

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<v Speaker 1>identical to the third one, which is an automaton that

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<v Speaker 1>people sort of hold in this extremely high regard because

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<v Speaker 1>it's really quite a marvel. It's called the Writer, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's um to my mind, and I think the mind

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<v Speaker 1>of many other others that study this subject. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>most impressive of the three because he can write as

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<v Speaker 1>many as forty letters in sequence, and because he has

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<v Speaker 1>built with a series of coded gears in his back

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<v Speaker 1>that can be moved, he can actually be programmed to

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<v Speaker 1>write new sequences. His messages aren't static, uh, and he'll

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<v Speaker 1>dip his pen in an ink well so that it

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be refreshed whenever he writes, and he carefully

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<v Speaker 1>scrawls out the program message onto paper, and his eyes

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<v Speaker 1>actually follow his pen as he's working, which is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of amazing and wonderful. The fact that this one can

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<v Speaker 1>be programmed to do different things would probably put him

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<v Speaker 1>higher on the list in like the Nitpickers list of robots,

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<v Speaker 1>because one of in terms of today's terminology, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the hallmarks of robotics is that these are programmable things,

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<v Speaker 1>not just things that work on like a remote control

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<v Speaker 1>or some kind of teather Yeah. Uh. And Jacque Drows

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<v Speaker 1>would take these automota around with him on tour while

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<v Speaker 1>he was visiting wealthy families, and he would, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>have them do their little activities and show off and

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<v Speaker 1>then he would use those charms to sell his high

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<v Speaker 1>end watches and smaller automoda to his elite clientele, and

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<v Speaker 1>he would also book them into hotel rooms and then

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<v Speaker 1>charge admission for people to just come and see them.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Jaque Drew's name is still famous for its watches. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Just as Paul Pare, who we discussed in a previous podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>brought branding into fashion houses, Jacquie Drews did a similar thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and he understood the idea of building a brand in

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<v Speaker 1>his industry, and his touring automoda were part of that brand. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>this trio lives in the Museum of Art and History

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<v Speaker 1>in Switzerland and they all still work, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>testament to the extraordinary engineering and skill that went into

0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.080
<v Speaker 1>their creation. Yeah, those are other ones that you can

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<v Speaker 1>see lots of video footage of online. Uh, you know,

0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:51.760
<v Speaker 1>people carefully programming them. And I've noticed in some of

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<v Speaker 1>them the writer he's a little um squeaky. At some

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<v Speaker 1>point they have to scoot the paper along form a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit because the paper actually gets kind of moved

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<v Speaker 1>on this little um carrier that goes back and forth

0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.960
<v Speaker 1>underneath his hands. But generally he's still I mean they're

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<v Speaker 1>all still in great working order and pretty amazing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, um, we should mention as we wrap up,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to talk about this one, but uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know people will ask why we didn't include it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the katakuti ningio, which are Japanese automata uh

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<v Speaker 1>that are generally referenced from like sixteenth through early nineteenth century,

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<v Speaker 1>And I really think they deserve their own podcasts, so

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<v Speaker 1>stay tuned. It would be weird to talk about robots

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<v Speaker 1>and not mentioned Japan at all, so I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure we at least pointed those out. Uh. They

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<v Speaker 1>also kind of go past the point in history where

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted to do the cut off, not so much

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<v Speaker 1>the early. It's a little later than early. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>it's in this realm that I was talking about, but

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<v Speaker 1>it goes on a little bit further and there are

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<v Speaker 1>many different types, and I feel like they just they

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<v Speaker 1>deserve their own whole little discussion because they're really quite amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, those are, like I said, a little sampling

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<v Speaker 1>of historical robotics and automata that I just I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of beautiful and wonderful that's going back these

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of years. We've always been obsessed with creating sort

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<v Speaker 1>of mechanized versions of ourselves and other natural elements of

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<v Speaker 1>the world. And a lot of these remind me of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that happened much later, or things that that later

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<v Speaker 1>would not have been quite so impressive, like the Um

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the movie Hugo and the book that

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<v Speaker 1>it was based off of, like that was a much

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<v Speaker 1>more recent era of of clockworks and steam based things

0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:40.760
<v Speaker 1>and automata that could write things. Um, and this predates

0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:44.440
<v Speaker 1>those sort of things by some hundreds of years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very very cool. So that's historical. Robots will hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>do more perhaps in the future, in addition of the

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese ones, because robots are awesome. They're really cool. I also,

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<v Speaker 1>as as we're reading this, I just like every description

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<v Speaker 1>sort of have ended with the sentence and then they

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<v Speaker 1>all came to life and the doctor had to come

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<v Speaker 1>and save us, because that, along with the intriguing idea

0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:12.119
<v Speaker 1>of making mechanical life, is the idea of that going

0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:16.480
<v Speaker 1>horribly wrong in the human consciousness that they seem to Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>they all none of them came to like running, They

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<v Speaker 1>domestication of cats. I'm an evolutionary biologist, so I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>super excited when you guys makes a little science in

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<v Speaker 1>with your history. The straight up history podcasts are awesome

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<v Speaker 1>as well as someone who works who were ras a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about wildlife conservation, though there was one point I

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<v Speaker 1>wished you'd emphasized more. Cats may be fascinating animals and

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful pets, but the fact that humans have introduced these

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<v Speaker 1>deadly little predators all over the world has had a

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<v Speaker 1>devastating impact on wildlife. Domestic cats are implicated in the

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<v Speaker 1>extinction of several bird species and are also a huge

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<v Speaker 1>threat to reptiles, amphibians, and small mammals. As much as

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<v Speaker 1>I empathize with cat owners desire to let their pets

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<v Speaker 1>room outside. Even well fed domestic cats kill quite a

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<v Speaker 1>few wild animals. There's actually a project at the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Georgia right in your backyard that seeks to quantify

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<v Speaker 1>this by attaching cameras to outdoor cats callers. Here's a

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<v Speaker 1>link to web comic about the project and what about

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<v Speaker 1>the project page itself, which we can also share with

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners. If you guys ever touch on this or

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<v Speaker 1>a similar topic again, it would be great if you

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<v Speaker 1>could encourage fellow cat lovers to minimize their pets impact

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<v Speaker 1>on local wildlife by following some of the recommendations from

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<v Speaker 1>the Kittie Caams project. Thanks for letting me bother you

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<v Speaker 1>about this, and thanks for all the amazing podcasts. IU.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of those things that I'm actually surprised

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't mention it either. Well, and I think the

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<v Speaker 1>reason that I didn't mention it is that I sort

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<v Speaker 1>of take for granted that that people know should they

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<v Speaker 1>should keep their pets indoors, which I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>I would take that for granted, because I see cats

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<v Speaker 1>running around outside all the time. Yeah, not everybody feels

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<v Speaker 1>that way, and it can be a very divisive subject

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<v Speaker 1>if you bring it up among people that have cats. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm definitely like an indoor only cat owner,

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<v Speaker 1>me too, But I know lots of people feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not fair to the cats, and there there's a

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<v Speaker 1>debate to be had about it, um, but it really

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<v Speaker 1>they really do have quite an impact on the natural

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<v Speaker 1>world outside when they go out, because they are predators,

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<v Speaker 1>and even if, as Elizabeth mentions, even if they're well fed,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't necessarily cut their prey drive down right. And

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<v Speaker 1>my keeping my cats indoors is really motivated by my

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<v Speaker 1>desire for their own safety. Yeah, more so than not

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<v Speaker 1>killing the birds and the reptiles and all those things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely a nervous nellie when it comes to that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how people can let their cats just

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<v Speaker 1>go outside, because it's the very thought of it strikes

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<v Speaker 1>fear in my heart. Well, the cat that I grew

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<v Speaker 1>up with lived outdoors almost exclusively. She would come inside

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<v Speaker 1>and it was really cold some of those two. This

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<v Speaker 1>was also in you know, in a world. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she was terrified of the road. So that was the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that we didn't really have to worry. We didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to worry about her being hit by a car

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<v Speaker 1>because she was absolutely terrified not go near it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>she would not. H Yeah, I mean, I know people

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<v Speaker 1>do worry that their cats won't get enough stimulation and play.

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<v Speaker 1>And as she mentioned, there are some great resources that

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<v Speaker 1>are linked on the Kitty Camps website and those are

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<v Speaker 1>just fascinating pictures. I actually know a friend of a

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<v Speaker 1>friend was one of the people whose cats was used

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<v Speaker 1>in that study, and I think she was pretty shocked

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<v Speaker 1>when she saw some of the images that told the

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<v Speaker 1>story of where her cat would go during the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and you know, many people found out that their

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<v Speaker 1>cats actually had franchised other families and we're double lives

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<v Speaker 1>and uh so it's kind of interesting from that point

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<v Speaker 1>of view. But uh yeah, safety and not killing all

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<v Speaker 1>the all the lizards and and mice and other things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they've definitely been case studies of I knew there's one

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<v Speaker 1>story of like the light keep the lighthouse keeper who

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<v Speaker 1>the cats single handedly exterminated all of the birds on

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<v Speaker 1>the island where the lighthouse at Lighthouse was. Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're very efficient little predators. They really are even Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've known this is just experiential evidence, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've known even people who are like, well, my cats

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<v Speaker 1>de cloud. I've seen d cloud cats take down birds

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<v Speaker 1>no problems. So uh, you just gotta keep them stimulated

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<v Speaker 1>inside and make sure they're getting that prey drive met

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<v Speaker 1>by indoor activities and clawing has its own That's a

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