WEBVTT - Happy Half Hour Episode 57: The Hope/Misery Index 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:11.760 It's time for the Happy Half Hour with your friends 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:22.520 Kristen Balboni, Will Brian and Darren Gamp. It's that time 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:24.200 of the week. It's the Happy half Hour podcast with 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:28.400 your friends, Will, Darren, Kristen and producer Matt and um, 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:30.720 I gotta say already the m v P of this 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:34.519 podcast episode. I think you would agree Darren and Matt's 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:38.400 one Will Brian because on a week that would probably 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:42.800 not be considered the happiest of half hours considering some 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.080 things that are going on in the Panthers building. Will 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:50.159 Brian is in a fully festive mood and decided to 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:53.640 extend that to all of us by bringing in Christmas drinks. 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:57.120 Christmas Christmas coffees very warm and sugary. They are very 0:00:57.120 --> 0:00:59.800 warm and sugary. And I'll tell you what snops to. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.080 I don't know. I would make it more of a 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:04.360 happy half hour for you. Yeah right, I just can't 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:08.800 wait for like minute fifteen and fast forward we'll find out. 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:13.200 Yeah yeah. And just for anyone who's wondering, it's in 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:16.680 the morning, so I cannot wait. Well, thank you, Yeah, 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.880 I mean what did you get us? Uh? This is 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:25.480 the toasted white chocolate mocha. I think taste taste very 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:29.319 toasted and chocolate. But you said last night we were 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.520 kind of game planning on time and what we're gonna 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:33.920 talk about, and you said something to the effective I'm 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:37.120 in a full Christmas mood with all the Christmas smells. 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:40.039 I mean, I was in a Christmas store buying Christmas 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:44.200 things to decorate the Christmas house. I got you for 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.600 a month that hasn't even started yet, but it's it's 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.120 on the horizon. Yeah, like a couple of days. Did 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:50.720 you get that? And I thought he was just saying 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.640 his house smelled like Christmas. I felt so too. I 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:58.040 was there, Oh yeah, there's a tree. There's tree, there's garland. 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.440 We have the decorations, we haven't put them on all 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.800 on yet. See that's the right play. You gotta let 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:07.720 your tree sort of settle into its place. Darren, not 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:09.760 to called Darren, but Darren knows about a tree settling, 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:13.560 because you've infamously leave yours up for quite some time afterwards, 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.239 right right right. It usually makes it to the super Bowl, 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:18.600 usually makes it to the super Bowl, which is fine. 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.000 And this is actually a myth. I come from a 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:24.440 I come from a family of tree people, my brothers, 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:27.000 my uncle. That's the myth or that or the myth 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:29.200 is coming now the myth is coming does mean a 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.120 family of tree people. Yeah. They run a nursery, Heffner's 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:36.200 Nursery and Connor family business. My grandfather started in the thirties. 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:39.840 My uncle, my brother worked there now and my brothers 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:43.280 involved with North Carolina Tree Growers Association, guys who grow 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:47.120 Christmas trees. And it's one of the myths is that 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:50.640 Fraser furs are practically impossible to sit on fire. Like 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.200 it takes a lot of kera sene. Everybody talks about, 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:54.880 oh you're gonna sit your house on fire with an 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:58.160 old tree, It's really hard to set a Fraser fur 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:03.480 on fire. So yeah, not that I'm advocating. That's really 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:05.400 good to know, though, I mean I wasn't trying to 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.520 our our Our tree may not actually be real, it's plastic. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:13.600 How could you come in here as Mr Christmas talking 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:20.000 about Girardi at the Christmas store with Christmas smells and chocolate, 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.359 you know, drinks, and then you are over here advocating 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.160 among Darren of the tree people for fake Christmas trees. 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:29.560 I I love real Christmas trees, but in this economy 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:34.760 with chain of the forest, the forest supply chain is 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:39.120 insulting Darren's family. I'm not I love trees. I sometimes 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.280 I think trees should stay in the forest though that's 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.440 that's where they belong. I'm not trying to was going 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:46.840 to get up at this chair just now. I'm all 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:51.680 about supporting small business, including I'll give you that. I'll 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:53.839 give you that. Is this the first time that you've 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.160 had a fake tree? Are you bringing this? You bringing 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:59.320 this thing out every year? Um? Be honest, I gotta 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.880 be careful to I answer this. It's not technically my 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:05.040 fake tree, and it's not the first time that someone 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:07.680 else has brought it out for the fifth year. I 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:12.880 got you, So I got you, you know, thankfully. I 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:14.840 don't think she listens to the podcast, so I think 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:19.120 we're saying probably best that way anyway. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.919 I know. I grew up with five years of real trees. 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.920 You like this fake tree? It's nice, it really, it's 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.839 it's easy as as someone that had to watch my 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.560 dad have, you know, because we lived in a big 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.280 Charleston house with you know, really high ceilings and brag. 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:41.240 I'm sorry those those what's wrong with me? This morning? 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.279 Those trees fell on him while he was trying to 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.320 get that thing in the thing, getting it into the 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:50.240 stand with all the things you have to put on 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:54.800 the branches and you know, and I'm just running around like, oh, 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.160 do it over here. Oh it's leading left. Oh my god, 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:01.240 it does trees. I can totally see you be in 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:04.680 the all right, a little bit to the right. No, Will, 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:07.479 this tree is about to fall on me. You are 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:12.080 no help right now? Yeah, common holding? Don't you get 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.760 over there? Yeah? You let it fall on you will. Yeah. 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:18.320 So the putting of metal into like a plastic holder 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:20.640 was nice and easy. I can, I can do that 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.880 part of this. Maybe that's why Will is already in 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:25.800 the Christmas spirit and it's kind enough to bring a 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:29.320 drink because he just he didn't have to to fuss 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.039 with the real Christmas tree. But I got all we 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.400 got all the smells. So the smells are important. You 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.160 have to have the smells, which I mean, there's the 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.440 obviously there's the pine scent, but like, what else are 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.600 we which other ones are you? Like a gingerbread or 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:44.640 it's it's every different type of candle in different corners 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.640 of you walk into your house. It smells like a 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.400 Michael's Yes, yeah, I like it. Yeah, I'm into that. 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:55.320 I mean, we got it. Yeah right. Oh, this is 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:59.279 a lovely way to start off podcast. Let's just keep talking. Yeah, 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.560 we clear go for another It's bye week, there is nothing, 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.479 nothing going on. We could go for another twenty five 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.160 minutes on this. I have thoughts, UM, but I do 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:12.360 want to get to some of the more recent news, UM. 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:16.120 And I want to start with the Christian McCaffrey news that, UM, 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.200 he is out for the rest of the season with 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:22.840 an ankle injury. UM. And before we talk about what 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.640 that means, I just wanted to point out his Instagram caption. 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.400 And I'm sure if you're a Panthers fan listening to 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.880 this podcast, you have most likely seen it. UM. If not, 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.360 I would I would recommend going to read it. I 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.240 won't read the whole thing, but just a paraphrase. You know, 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:41.880 he is someone who is pretty UM. I guess it's 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:45.320 is private the right word, Darren, that's pretty safe to say. 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:50.680 And I was surprised by um by how much he 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:54.400 really revealed and and was vulnerable with the caption. Well, 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:55.560 it looks like you have it up if you want 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.760 to read it. Do you want to read it? Um, 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.440 I love playing football, kind of dedicated my entire life 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.080 to what I believe to be the greatest sport in 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.400 the world, getting healthy and back in the field. The 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:06.440 season has been my focus every day from the time 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.200 I wake up until I go to bed. I put family, friends, 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:11.240 and all other interest on hold so I can fully 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:15.000 concentrate my efforts on treatment, training, practicing, studying, preparing and 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.160 playing the game I love at the highest level, which 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.560 is why my season coming to an abrupt end today 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.960 leaves me devastated. I'm thankful to everyone who continue to 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.239 help and support me through the difficult time and promise 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:28.720 I will fight with everything I have to return bigger, stronger, faster, 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.200 and better than ever keep pounding. I just thought that 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:35.720 was a very revealing UM, look at what he's going through, 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.000 and I think it's important to as I said before 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.120 we talk about her, before anyone talks about the the 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.840 impacts and certainly Fear a fan of the team, that 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.080 that's something that's very important to you. The impact of 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.280 not having one of the best players in the NFL 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.320 for the rest of the season and what it could 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.520 mean for just going forward in general. Um But I 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.520 just I thought, you know, the word devastated and that 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.800 line where he says essentially like I put so much 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.600 on hold to pursue this dream. I've given up stuff 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:07.480 with family and friends. And we all in sports have 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.400 done that to a certain extent, but but none more 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:12.360 so than the players who play the game of coaching, staffs, 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:17.360 the front office. Um and And he is someone that eats, sleeps, 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:22.640 and breathes football and his process and his commitment. Um And, 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.320 I just I thought it was very revealing and really sad, 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.960 and I just wanted to kind of acknowledge that. Um 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:30.840 And It's it's certainly not just him. There are players 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:34.320 who get injured in the NFL every day, on practice squads, 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.840 on uh, you know, people whose name is not nearly 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:40.559 as recognizable, but it's something that goes missing sometimes. Yeah, 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.560 he is. He is a man who chooses his words 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:47.360 very carefully, and he is not a revealer. He does 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:52.920 not like talking about last year's injuries or previous you know, 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.600 injuries this season or anything like that. He doesn't like 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:58.600 bringing it up in context. He keeps his He always says, 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:02.640 I'm focused moving forward. I'm you know, what's ahead of me, 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.480 what's next kind of thing. And that's just the way 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:10.120 he's always been, and it is it is disappointing for 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:13.880 him to see this happen, because I can tell you 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:17.800 from being around these guys, and Kristen's right, yeah, plenty 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.480 of other people get hurt and all these dudes have 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.960 to work hard to even be in this locker room 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:27.760 among the best to the best. But that guy puts 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.360 so much into it, and I understand. I mean, listen, 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.880 I've seen the mentions on online and stuff and I 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.760 and I see people disappointed because when it's somebody who's 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:41.200 so central to the team, fans who invest a lot 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:44.040 of emotion in the team feel like something's been taken 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:49.600 away from them. And I understand fans being extremely disappointed. Now, 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.400 the fantasy football people who are saying things about it, 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.800 I've got a different set of feelings for them. But 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:59.160 I mean, as disappointed as you are. As Kristen said, 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:04.360 this is what this man does. He doesn't he's not 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:10.120 a big golfer. He doesn't think about hobbies and stuff 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:14.000 during the season heat footballs and football has now been 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:17.920 taken away from him. Kind of cruelly again for the 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.880 second year in a row, and it's just it's hard 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.240 for him to process because he puts so much into it. 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.559 And that's why when I saw that yesterday, I was like, 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:29.440 I was not expecting that. No, I just figured Christian 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.920 was going to go dark for a couple of weeks 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.280 and then we might see something like that when he 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:38.440 has a clear idea of rehab and recovery times and 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.600 stuff like that. But yeah, for that to come out 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:45.280 yesterday was like, I remember, He's got my start working 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.760 on Mike and Mike when it was still a show 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:51.200 on ESPN, and Michael like used to always say something 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:54.520 whenever he would talk about a player getting injured, and 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:57.000 it always stuck with me, and I brought it up 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:58.800 with Christian one time, and I've I've done it with 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:02.520 several players we're going through the rehab process or coming 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.120 back from an injury. But it always stuck with me 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:05.840 as someone who you know, I'm as close to the 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:07.160 game as you can get, but of course I've never 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:10.040 played it, and there's so much that um I've learned 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.520 and continue to learn about about what these players go through. 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.200 But he would always say, uh, there are a few 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:20.720 things lonelier than rehabbing an injury on a professional team 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.199 because you are there every day, you know, you are 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.000 in the It's like it's kind of the the definition 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:30.160 of fomo, right, Like you're there every day with your teammates, 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:33.720 but you can't participate in the things that makes a 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:37.640 team sports so enjoyable. You can't contribute to the winds, 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.520 you can't really be there in the losses. You're in 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.800 a separate area. You're doing this thing all by yourself, 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:47.320 in close proximity to everyone else. And you know, Christian 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:50.320 I had a conversation about that last year and and 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.600 he said, yeah, it is. It's it's an incredibly lonely thing. 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:55.480 And again it's something that a lot of players go through, 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.360 and Um, I don't know. That just always has stuck 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:03.079 with me. And I was just really, like, like you said, Darren, surprised, UM. 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:04.720 And I thought it was really great that that he 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.040 put that out there, because I just think people forget 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:10.560 sometimes that is devastated. As as they all are, we 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:14.080 all are right, um, that that that's happened to a season, 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.480 As you said, think about how he feels, and it 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:18.480 was I thought it was very brave to kind of 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.200 put that out there a little bit, because he's not 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.240 someone who does that. Admit that you're devastated, yeah, I mean, 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:27.040 and the toughness that it takes to to go into 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:30.160 you know, yet another offseason, you know, to try to 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.080 like all right, I gotta go through this again. But 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:35.320 you know, maybe there is some of that, um, you know, 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.280 that sense of like I've been down this hole before 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:40.040 and I know the way out, you know, like maybe 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.080 there is some hope of like I know what I 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.160 need to do. I know that I can get back, 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.440 you know, I know that I know that there's still 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.280 something there like and I think you see that in 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:51.840 that caption as well. I didn't mean to make it 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.160 sound like he's you know, it's nothing that he can't 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:57.160 work his way back from. But um. And so I'm 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:00.480 sure that if anyone has you know, a and that's 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.600 laid out in minute detail, it's him. Um. But I 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:05.760 just thought it was important too. I think for all 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:08.079 of those guys, Um, when something like this happens, I 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.679 always think it's interesting to try to or important, I 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:12.600 should say, to try to take a moment to kind 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:14.760 of look at the human impact of it versus just 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:18.640 immediately jumping to okay, and I'm guilty of doing that. Okay, 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:22.560 what does this mean? You know, Miro Abdullah Hubbard, Let's 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.880 talk about it. You know so well. And it is 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:28.120 and it's tough for fans of this particular franchise because 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.080 this is this is about the third good time. I 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.640 mean again, a lot of guys get hurt from time 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:37.319 to time, but in terms of persistent injuries, I mean 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.839 I I thought back to Luke keik Ley, I thought 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.240 back to Dan Morgan, and it's like these guys who 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:45.240 burned so brightly, who were so passionate about what they do. 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.400 And the one thing that I don't think enough people 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:52.240 factor into professional football, whether it's in team building, results 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:58.280 of games, or anything else. It's dumb luck. You know 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.360 this isn't I hate it when people say so and 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.200 so's injury prone. I don't think injury prone is really 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:07.120 a thing. I mean, if a guy is fat and 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:10.079 lazy and comes in to camp out of shape and 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:13.000 he pulls a hamstring, then you say, okay, well that guy, Okay, 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:16.000 maybe he's injury prone. But when you see these athletes 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:19.280 who put so much time into keeping themselves in top 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.920 shape and you know, in the case of Dan Morgan, 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.560 the grass flies out from under his feet, his rookie 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:29.160 year um when they put down New sod Or you know, 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:32.160 Luke Keikley going through the concussions. I mean, and those 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:37.320 things are just freak occurrences. It's not like something it's 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.840 there's nothing negligent about them on on these guys part, 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.640 and it's just bad luck. I mean, you know, Christian 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:47.200 had a hamstring earlier this year Sunday somebody fell across 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.880 back of his leg, and you can't some dolphin whose 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.240 number I couldn't even really make out in the pile 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:55.760 just kind of fell across the back of guy's leg 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.680 and now he's out for the season. I mean, there's nothing, 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:03.440 no amount of reparation, weight training, any kind of stretching 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.000 he could have done to prevent what happened there. And 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.240 there's nothing you can do to come back faster than 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.320 your body allows you to, you know. And I think 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.640 that's such a good point there, and of like the 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:16.160 dumb luck of it all has to be so hard 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.840 on the guys, guys like Christian, the ones you just mentioned, Luke, 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.120 Keith Lee, Dan Morgan, because is there's nothing you can 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:23.520 do about it, and nobody wants it more, and no 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.680 one's put more effort into into their preparation and process 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.360 and and being the best. So look, do I think 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.640 he's going to come back to the normal Christian whenever 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:37.520 he's healthy and next season and continue to be the Christian? 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.840 I mean absolutely, But I just thought it was I 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:43.640 just wanted to acknowledge the human side of it a 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.640 little bit since he did um before we kind of 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:50.800 jump into you know, the football of it, all right, 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:52.880 and and let's be real. I mean, this man had 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.560 put up three straight hundred yards scrimmage game. He he he 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:57.800 he was producing. I mean, he was going to be 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.560 a part of you know, like, okay, so at least 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:02.360 you know, if there's something going wrong here, there's something 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:04.240 going wrong here, you know, Christian was still there. And 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.880 it felt like, you know, there there's there's still something 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:08.840 you can do because you've got Christian back there that 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:12.280 can still um, you know, sparking offense, have a big play, 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:15.960 you know, create openings. And yeah, I mean it's I 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.200 think every time that we see him leave and then 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:21.200 come back, you just see how much he impacts a 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:25.000 team and a game in um, you know, a fan base, 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:26.960 you know, of of what it looks like down there, 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.800 and I would say, you know, this is a very 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:33.560 very small silver lining. But I think with these guys 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:36.440 who if you're a Panther's fan, you remember them being 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.560 kind of like the young, you know, the new guys, 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:43.200 like whether it's a Shock or a Christian who have 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:46.160 developed into leaders. And it's something I've had conversations with, 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:50.200 let's say, both of those guys and others about UM 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:53.320 who have have really taken that next step into leadership. 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:54.840 And I think we use the term like you said, 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.720 well like leave and come back, well like Christians not leaving. 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:59.400 I mean, he may take some time for himself, but 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.880 last year and then earlier this year, UM when he 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:03.640 was injured in that there's in a game like he's 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:07.320 on the sidelines, he's wearing his earpiece, he's coaching up 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.399 the young guys, and so you can hope and I 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:11.680 think we saw it last year that it makes them 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.040 as much as they're like, yeah, okay, I gotta help 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.360 on the sidelines, like okay, that's great, but I want 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:17.960 to be out there and play, but I think it 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.240 makes them they use that time to become smarter to 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:24.520 become better leaders, to understand the game better, to try 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.040 to help others. Um, they're not out of sight, out 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.720 of mind. And I think one of the cool things, 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:31.879 kind of back to what you were saying before, what 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:35.679 makes things for the Panthers and this franchise and for 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:39.840 the fans feel continually connected generation over generation. It's kind 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.119 of stuff like what we saw a pregame of like 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.280 Christian throwing this football to Julius Mempers in his family 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:49.560 and his kind of there's you know, it's like all 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.400 of that kind of together of like, hey, guys, this 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:56.000 is this you know, as someone that grew up and 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.879 was nine years old when the Panthers were founded, and 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.320 you know you were in that you know, very young 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.960 age during two thousand three, and like seeing all of 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:08.640 that kind of come together, Um, it's a cool passing 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.840 of torches. And it's a cool connecting piece to think that, 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:15.320 like it's not just new guys every year and you 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:17.399 know and then they move on. Yeah, there's the common 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:22.120 threads that connects the certain eras together. Um. So let's 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:26.760 talk about Darren the Miami game, how you how you 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:31.320 rebound from there and and what you are focused on 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:34.719 on this bye week and the schedule ahead. If you 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:38.320 are this coaching staff, this front office, these players, you know, 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.359 maybe the best thing is to not rebound from it 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.440 at all, to just leave for I mean, there were 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:46.800 a lot of guys after that game who had the 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.520 look of people who needed a day off as much 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:52.360 as anything. And you hate to say it, but I mean, 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:55.640 and there's some guys Burns talked about, I'd rather play 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:57.760 next week. I don't want to walk around with this, 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:01.200 but you don't want to go into the long time 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:03.800 since these guys have had a couple of days off 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:07.000 in a row. I mean, you go back to after 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:09.280 Week three, the Thursday night game, they get kind of 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:12.680 a long weekend. But you know then since training camp 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:14.720 ended and there are a couple of days before the 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.959 regular season grind starts, these guys have been added all day. 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:20.640 And it's hard. I mean, it's hard to walk around 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:24.240 with one like that as the last thing you experienced, 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:26.840 because it was bad. I mean, it was pretty gross. 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.240 It was the it was the New York game all 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.600 over again, where the defense played okay at first, the 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:35.359 offense couldn't move the ball at all, some bad special 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:38.720 team stuff, you know, bad field position, boom, all of 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.240 a sudden, you're down a big hole. Nothing goes right 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:45.200 the rest of the day. I mean, it was, you know, frustrating, 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:47.960 and it just kept gaining speed that further it went 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:51.120 down the track. So, uh, it's hard. You almost don't 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:52.879 want to spend too much time on it. You do 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.920 have to reflect on it. But you know, Matt talked 0:19:55.920 --> 0:20:01.480 about yesterday, um using a week to reflect Dawn, how 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:03.760 you get to this point and what's got to be done. 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:05.879 And it's kind of you know a lot of the 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:09.240 issues that they have and a lot of the issues 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:12.920 that you know, football wise, you want to fix and 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:15.359 change and do this and that and the other. I 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:18.520 really can't fix a lot of it until the off season. 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:21.120 I mean, because what's the biggest issue pass protection? Well, 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.520 there are no left tackles available the week after Thanksgiving, 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.400 So you've got to kind of get through these next 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:31.000 six games with what's on hand, you know, some combination 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:34.120 of Daily and Christensen and those guys and and fill 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:36.760 in and and try to patch it up as best 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:40.560 you can, knowing that that's gonna be an off season 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:43.399 priority is you have to fix pass protection. We're gonna 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:46.280 talk a lot about quarterbacks for the next how are 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:49.880 many months, We're gonna talk a lot, trust me, But 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:55.159 that's how that's almost in the in the world talking 0:20:55.160 --> 0:21:00.199 about quarterbacks every single day, but we're going to be 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:03.280 talking about offensive lineman and awful lot too. That's the priority. 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:05.639