WEBVTT - Jasper "Big Love" Cameron 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:03.040 R and B Money. 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:06.120 Honey, we are. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:10.160 Take Malachi. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.040 We are the authority on. 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:19.520 R and B ladies and gentlemen, My name is Take 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:26.599 this the R and B Money Podcast, the authority on 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:33.160 all things R and B with extra chief, with extra depth. Huh. 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:37.040 We travel mm hmmm. We we take this thing on 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:37.480 the road. 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:41.800 Huh Atlanta, Yeah, where we at Enise Studio. 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:42.200 Yeah. 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:43.320 Huh. 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.440 Our brother, little Roddia has opened the doors for us 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:50.920 to come to Atlanta and tap into the soil, tap 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:55.440 into the heartbeat, get into the depths of the creatives 0:00:55.600 --> 0:01:00.880 and the masters who've made this good and be shipped 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.360 that we got him that enough building. 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:17.680 Nick. Uh. Discography is a real thing. Uh. The list 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:24.360 is long, the work undefeated. 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:29.080 Uh. If you see this man, if you look at him, 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:32.960 you wouldn't You wouldn't be able to tell the time 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:37.360 that has been put in because he's been preserved because 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:40.840 of the quality that he's been putting into the atmosphere 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.160 that has been circling back to him. 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:45.920 I don't want to say too many words. I want 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:46.800 the man to speak. 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.440 The Man of God deserves an opportunity to say the speak. 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:53.840 Uh. They call him Jasper. 0:01:54.200 --> 0:02:03.520 Yeah, big love. 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:03.240 Listen. 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:07.000 Yeah, everybody with the name big Love. Yeah, you out 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:07.480 of control? 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:08.480 Hey, man, you know. 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.120 I'm here for I'm here for the people. 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:16.399 He's promoting something. He love. When she asked you, what's 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:18.600 your name? Big Love? Baby? Yeah? 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:23.600 Baby, come get a slice of you, get a. 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:32.640 Piece of it. Come get a piece give me that, 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:34.399 give me big Love. Where does big Love come from? 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:35.520 How did you even get to that? 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:35.680 Man? 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:38.640 I tell you what's so crazy? I really hijacked this name. 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.839 So years ago, many Fresh and Jazzy Fay was doing 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:46.880 the group. Put myself in the group. I said, what 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:47.440 the name y'all? 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:47.679 Group? 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:48.079 Big Love? 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:50.280 I put my I made myself a member. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:52.720 What l Yeah, what's. 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.280 Up manny fres Yeah, I made myself a member. And 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.720 then I just took They still calling me big Love, 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:59.120 but the name of that group was supposed to be 0:02:59.120 --> 0:02:59.480 Big Love. 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:00.839 And I insert myself in the group. 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.000 And I was in the group and we were Big Love, 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:04.519 and I took the name Big Love. 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:06.800 I said, it's got to be me, it's got to 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:10.679 be got to be mean. Yeah. Man, whatever happened to 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:11.400 the crew, man? 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:11.720 You know what? 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:13.959 Some praise, man, they would get some get some more money. 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:17.000 Back then, man, my god, they was on five. They 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.120 was getting it and they was just let me hang along. 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:19.960 I couldn't believe it. 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:25.440 My brother, you've done your part. Yeah, you've done your party. 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:30.880 I promise you had. And I just want to you know, 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.040 first of all, you number you're number one as we 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:38.720 touched down. Oh number you you're number one, no higher. 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:40.800 You're kicking this thing off, kicking off the right way, 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:42.720 you know what I'm saying. So the bar is high. 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.120 Oh yeah, whoever else comes and sits in that chair 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.080 right here, you know, get the bars hot elevated. 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:49.400 But I want to go back to. 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.280 The beginning because you know you you we we all 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:55.040 from a familiar place, sir, to where this thing started 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:57.920 for you, to where to where somebody said, boy, that 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:04.000 boy right there he got You said to yourself, I 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:04.840 got something. 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:08.120 Got Some man started on the West side of Atlanta. 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.360 My mama, Missus Clergey, and my whole family from the 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.480 West side of Atlanta, you know what I'm saying. And 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.960 they made everybody in my family either had to be 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:21.200 in the church choir on an urschel board. You got 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:22.680 to go to church, and you gotta be you got 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.000 to be involved. You ain't got no choice, you know 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:26.200 what I'm saying. And what's so crazy it is the 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.320 church I went to Greater Springfield. It's in the bluff. 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.600 The actual pastor of that church is DC young Fly Daddy. 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:34.320 Yeah. 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:37.800 So the pastor of my church, Solomon Whitfield Junior, is 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:39.239 DC young Fly Daddy. 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:40.160 Stop playing. 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.320 Yeah, so that was the pastor of my church, and 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.800 so my whole family. You know what I'm saying. He 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:46.760 probably I remember him. He was a baby. Actually, his 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.279 mama and my mama went to high school together. You know, 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.039 his parents had him late in life, so he was Yeah, 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:53.760 so he was when I when I was teaching. 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:55.800 He was a baby when I was a teenager. So 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:57.000 it started in church. 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:58.599 So my whole family went to the church and it 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:00.880 was like y'all gonna sing be in a ursher board. 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.240 So it started there and then what ended up happening 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:07.560 was in school one day this the teacher made everybody 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:09.559 get up and sing, you know, the stop spang abound 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.320 or whatever. So this dude got up. I went to 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:13.719 Kye Heights Elementary School on the west side Lema, and 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.120 the teacher got made this boy get up and sing right, 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:18.920 and he couldn't sing, and everybody started laughing. I wasn't 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:21.120 even laughing. She looked straight at me and say, well, 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.040 since you think it's so funny, you get up and sing. 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.400 I don't really know I can sing. I just know 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.120 what I do at church. And so when I got 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.560 up and sang, she say, oh, you can sign for real. 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:33.040 She took me to the music teacher, offers Ms. Holloway. 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:35.520 And from that point on, I was either doing music 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.600 at church. This second grade scond, so either I was 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.760 doing music at church or I was doing it at school. 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.600 So by then, you know, you fully in mercy at 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:45.440 you at church and then you at school doing music. 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:46.800 And then I go home with my big brother and 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.320 them they doing music. So I was just encompassed by music. 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.480 What was your big brothers though, Man, my big brother 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:53.560 he had a group, but they was listening to rap. 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:55.320 You know, when you were older brothers there, you know 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:58.120 they put you on the stuff earlier than everybody else 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.200 in your age group because they you know, when you 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.080 got big the streets, so you know they was putting 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.400 me on I was. I was faster than most kids 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.560 my age because I was learning from my big brothers 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.360 and my cousins and them, and I was on the 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.920 music they was on, so they was exposing me and everything. 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:13.920 I never forget when I rapped, we was on Too 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.280 Short two Live crew. I wasn't supposed to listen to that, 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:17.080 but that's what they listened to. 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.440 Taking that back to the elementary, please believe it. 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:24.400 We on the We're on the top field, somebody saying, hey. 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:28.920 We want some Yeah, you can say podcast, puse, Yeah, 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:29.680 we want it. 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:31.320 We're listening to Too Short. 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.400 Her name was Rinder, like a brand new Hunt. So 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.520 I'm listening to all that. But then, but then, but 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.960 then my mama. But then I go to my mama. 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:43.120 She making us learn whining songs. 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.360 Yeah, and then we go around the corner and then 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.000 we on no Audition and then we're on Michael. 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.360 That song was just a bunch of mixture of everything. 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:52.960 So it's all of that mixed and one. So you 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.799 just getting all this music. Then I never forget. 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:57.400 The first record I wanted my mama to buy me 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:58.559 was ass We Laid by SHERYLO. 0:06:58.640 --> 0:06:58.960 Murder. 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:00.800 I didn't know what the song. I didn't know what 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:01.559 the song meant. 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:03.599 I asked my mama day, I said, Mom, you bout me, 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:05.680 asked me, like, she's like, what you know about that song? 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.039 It was once I got older, I realized the words 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:09.000 was a cheat song. 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:09.960 But I'm eight. 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.760 But what was happening to you? You felt? 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:17.720 Did I'm like, whatever she's singing, but she meaning you? 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:21.680 It was it was It was a sonic that that 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:26.520 resonated with you that at the time you didn't understand 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.360 was was actually giving birth to, you know, to what 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:34.600 you would ultimately do. Like I tell everybody all the time, 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.400 like I didn't get as much as I was in 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.880 church and from Reverend James Cleveland and all of these 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.320 things that we were singing and junior choir, all that stuff. 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:44.760 All that stuff was great and I had to do it, 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:46.120 you know, we had to do We had to do it. 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:50.320 But I didn't get captivated with music. It didn't captivate 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:52.400 me or stop me in my tracks. Until I'm walking 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:55.760 past the TV and the Charlie Brown's Christmas is playing. 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:00.840 What is it? 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:08.160 What is that and what is it doing to me? 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:08.960 I feel it? 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:11.840 And that was. 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:15.480 The start of me like being obsessed with music because 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.120 that was the first thing I obsessed about, trying to 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.480 play the songs in the Charlie Brown Christmas. 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:21.720 It's crazy. You don't know when music. 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.400 I think for me it was. 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:38.679 Sorry Shaw Oh yeah yeah that was like pass what 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:39.280 a song? 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:40.920 What is that? 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:45.679 What is what is that? Yeah? Yeah that was my 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:49.439 first one. Yeah, it really caught me. That was like, okay, 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:51.400 I like that like this, Yeah. 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:55.880 That's fire too as that song. Those are songs that 0:08:56.000 --> 0:09:00.200 like like I remember them, songs like I remember being 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.679 somewhere with those songs like like vividly you know what 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:04.120 I'm saying. 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:07.400 And we were living on the street cross the Lenisle 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:12.800 Street and point point. Yeah, to this day, I just 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.439 remembered you right back death put you right there. That's 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:19.560 what supposed to it's supposed to put time staff place. 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:22.920 Yeah, so Mama bout you Shirley Murdo. 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:26.880 She did, and I played it out. Yeah, oh man, 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:28.400 that's Charlot murder out. What she could sign? 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:28.720 Boy? 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:30.800 So she brought me that Charlo murdered out man. And 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.880 you know, was she the first staith evans Man? 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:37.880 Yeah? Wow, think about it. 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.800 That Bocaton was very unique. She was she was not 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:42.760 holding back. 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:44.840 On computer love and focus on computer. 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:46.520 Love, was holding into. 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:52.480 It, going crazy, going crazy. So so so we we're 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:56.280 we're we're in elementary school, probably out of elementary school now, 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:59.960 but you have been exposed to be too short, Yes, sir, 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:04.920 The Whinings, Yes sir. Two Live Crews, Shirley Murder Yeah 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:12.360 uh new edition before fifth grades. Okay, Wow, when does it? 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:17.640 When does it inspire you to actually do something of 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.079 your own, something original from yourself. 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:23.880 What happened was this right here right So Atlanta has 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:28.360 a very rich talents show culture and skater ring culture. 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:30.760 So all these acts everybody eventually seen come out of 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:34.240 here from TLC, from Chris Cross, the ABC, from even Jermaine, 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:35.720 the pre Dallas House organized noise. 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:37.480 All of us used to be these skating rinks. 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.600 It was. It was skating rings and the talents show culture. 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:46.440 So ultimately what happened was ABC hit ABC Hit. That 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:48.160 was one of the first groups in I in Our 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:50.559 Age record to hit ABC Hit with Sue and we 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.680 found out the producer from Banana Dallas. They were signed 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:54.960 on Michael Bibbs. You know Michael Biver's on fire right here. 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.640 You know Michael Bivers the first like puffing all of that, 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.200 so he on fire. So after ABC here it the 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.560 next group was Chris Cross. What happened was they put 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.560 out the press release that Chriscross got discovered in the 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:10.319 mall by Jermaine dupri So. That made every young person 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.720 in Atlanta. We went to the mall every weekend. Around 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:17.520 the mall, we was getting kicked out of Linars, go 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.000 to Green Bright, go go to South wherever we was 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:21.200 going to the mall because we're like, this is how 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:22.120 Chrisscross did it. 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.080 So crazy about Criscross. I went to school with light. 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:29.480 Skin, Chris brother and sister, Jennifer and Loney Chris, light Skin, Chris, Jennifer, 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:30.719 Lonia went to school with me. He was like a 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:32.599 two younger, but they had hit by the time he 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:34.120 supposed to come to high school. So I went to 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:36.800 so we all see we seeing everybody. We were like, 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.559 man and at the same time, the face moved down here. 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:43.199 Come on, the face moved down here. So you get 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:46.760 ABC go bam. They would, Oh they were bft in Dallas, Boom, 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:50.319 We on Chris Cross, boom Jamaine on, Oh man, the 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.679 face move here Atlanta boom. So it's every It's talent 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:57.520 shows everywhere, its group's everywhere, and uh and it just happened. 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:01.400 I was in eighth grade and one of the people 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.320 I went to eighth grade high school with was her 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:03.800 g Rock. 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:05.200 It was up. 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:09.120 They're from Allen Temple, They're from Adamsville, my neighborhood. They 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.280 end up getting them a deal and their manager who 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:13.720 end up getting them to deal. 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:15.480 With Jojo and Dave. 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.320 They was like the biggest street guys in Atleanta, and 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:21.080 they happened to be jeezy cousins later on. That's how 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.440 I made Jesus through them. So alta small like that. 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:26.440 So this this, this is like ninety ninety one or something. 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.680 We kids, and he like, man, look, we just got 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.240 us a deal. They twelve and thirteen. We just got 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:32.120 us a deal with Capitol. 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:32.280 You know. 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.360 Joe, Jo and David by manager. They want another singing group. Man, 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:37.280 they want another singing group. Go get some of them 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:38.640 lame man niggas. You in the chow wit. 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:40.920 It's exactly what he said. 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.560 This is exactly what he said, Man, go get some 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.720 of them lame man niggas. You in the chorus with Yeah, 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:48.120 Go get some of the lame man nigga you in 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:49.960 the chords with a bit yob and y'all go do 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:54.640 a demo I'm like, what's a demo? So he said, okay, 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:55.199 because at. 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.640 This point, the neighborhood know you sing, because you know in. 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:00.680 School once you once you start doing stuff in school, 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.319 now that you know, it's gonna start spreading. And then 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.200 they know they little fat jobs. But who be singing 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.040 yeah little little fat jazz. Yeah yeah, you know how 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.000 they doing it. They described it by whatever they little 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:11.280 they little fat Joss. They be saying, you know what 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.079 I'm saying, so you know what I'm saying. They look 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:15.800 fat Johns, but they be saying so they know. So 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:17.560 that's why he like man group. 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:21.760 Because little is like it's endearing, but it's also disrespect. 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.080 It's it's also dismissing everything. 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:28.880 But it's like, yeah, my god, So that was mess 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:29.440 that little card. 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.160 How they describe so they look fat job, but they'll 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:35.480 be singing yeah. And so we put the group together. 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:35.679 Man. 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:37.760 From then on, when I put the group together with 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.840 the guys, we had a group. We had a group now. 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.880 So we just was like, okay, well they just thug 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.079 it out. So we started doing the talent shows and 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.600 all that stuff too, and we didn't win, not one 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:50.920 talent show because one twelve won all of them and 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:51.960 that group name was Fort. 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:53.560 They won every talent show. 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:55.640 They won everyone what twelve because same like that. 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.160 When they was twelve and thirteen, man, it was off. 0:13:58.200 --> 0:13:59.120 It was the four guys. 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.240 Was he quit As wasn't in the group yet. Quinn's 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.120 was actually in another group, but it was slim. 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:04.640 It was the run. It was Mike and they had 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.400 a bass. You remember when Boys and Men came out, 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:07.480 every group had to have a base. 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:09.600 Everybody had to have a base. So they had to 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.160 do with a deep voice in the group. But they 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.200 were singing like that. I promised to God. When we 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.960 was thirteen to twelve, thirteen and fourteen, they were singing 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:20.400 like that. They was called Fort back then, and they 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.680 like from the South. They're actually from the same neighborhood 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.560 young thug from like like one twelve, from like Jonesbord 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:27.200 South and all of that. So they from over there, 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.240 so you know what I mean. So they but them 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.480 boys could sing. Man, they were every We could never 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.960 beat them, but everybody. But all of a sudden, everybody 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:36.960 out of them talent, out of them Talness Show. They 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:40.520 started getting signed and stuff. Because then everybody started coming down. 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.440 I'll never forget. When one twelve got they did, we 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.520 was like, oh my god. I seen Slim one time 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:46.720 in the hood at the store. 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.040 He said, boy, we just shot a video. We in 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:52.800 New York with pop Daddy. He said what he said, boy, 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:54.400 we got a video. What do y'all see this? 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:59.920 We seen that video. We say, oh, it's really for real. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:04.040 Yeah yeah yeah, because everybody, our whole generation, everybody was 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.600 getting signed. First of all, Escape got, you know, Jamaine signed, 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.640 They got put on You know what I say, every 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.920 last one of them groups. Everybody knew each other or 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.560 one person in the group because everybody was getting sign Yeah. 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.280 It was crazy. Yeah they got. 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:18.920 When they came down here, they plugged the man. I 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:22.000 promised to God, you could go around back then and 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.440 you will see all of that. Like any rapper that 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:25.840 ever made it out of here. I knew him way 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.280 before they was. I knew him since we was like 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:30.480 in elementary school or high school or something. 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:32.760 Were you guys doing original music? 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.840 See what happened was my brother and them seemed See 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:38.000 I had older brothers and cousins, so by the fault 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.000 there was management because they was old enough with the 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:41.680 cars and driving us around. So they used to take 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:43.400 us to the shows and stuff, so we used to 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:44.560 go try to. They used to pay for us to 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:46.080 win studio time. You know, they was in the streets 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:47.320 and doing all kinds of stuff. So they had the 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:50.960 little money, they'll go pay for studio time to sing 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:51.360 and stuff. 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:53.080 And I remember we used to pay studio time. And 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.080 I remember we was like man. Our group. 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.320 We was all kind of like arch kids because we 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.480 could play and sing and stuff. We were like man. Instead 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.680 of pant they giving us wax songs. We could sing 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:05.040 our own wax songs. That's our only thing. Like instead 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:06.880 of paying for these demo we could do our own 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.720 wax songs. If they're gonna be terrible, we might as 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.280 well sing our own terrible songs. So that's what made 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:14.880 us doing it, because we could already play and all 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:15.800 that kind of time. 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:16.760 You hadn't written anything. 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:17.280 Now we haven't. 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:17.640 We wasn't. 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:18.440 We wasn't really writing. 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.680 We only started writing songs for real, for real because 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.840 we wanted to have our songs for demo because we 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:26.480 was paying other people to do songs, and it was 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:27.160 like they were wax. 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:28.720 So they're like, we're about twelve, because you know, the 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:29.160 first demo. 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.560 We were doing covers you know how, you know how 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:33.360 you're going there and you make they'll redo tracks for 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:35.400 you for demo. So when we got you start getting 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:36.840 more mature, and we're like, well man, we kind of 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:38.600 want to do our own songs. We started trying to 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.320 get people do their songs. We were like, well man, 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.280 we run now we could play pianos and sing and 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:47.680 all of that. We could do that if if they terrible. 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:53.120 Now my group was pure Bliss. We got that from 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:55.440 a cool J song. We did what we did with 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.200 our boys and men swimming in the on the exits 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.440 a pure Bliss. We said, that's our name, like, yeah, 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:02.920 pure Bliss. We got it from the hay Lovel song 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:08.720 Pure Bliss. 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:16.240 We had had it after that. You never know it. 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:19.280 Pure Bliss, and we thought we was Hey, we thought 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:23.040 we were so dope. Man, them songs. Let me tell you, 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:25.480 we thought we were so dope. I went back to 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:26.520 listen to them songs one day. 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:27.720 I said, I don't. 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:33.000 Wonder nobody, Hey listen man, I've had that moment with myself. 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:35.840 I listened to some old ship I was I was 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:39.000 like that nigga was. 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.399 We were so packed out though, that. 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.119 I remember we did this one show one time, right, 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:45.920 we had a showcase and this dude seen the show. 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:49.000 He like, listen, I don't know about those songs, but 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:50.240 y'all can perform real good. 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:50.439 You know. 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.640