1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: R and B Money. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: Honey, we are. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Take Malachi. 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 3: We are the authority on. 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: R and B ladies and gentlemen, My name is Take 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: this the R and B Money Podcast, the authority on 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: all things R and B with extra chief, with extra depth. Huh. 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: We travel mm hmmm. We we take this thing on 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: the road. 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 3: Huh Atlanta, Yeah, where we at Enise Studio. 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 12 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: Huh. 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: Our brother, little Roddia has opened the doors for us 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 3: to come to Atlanta and tap into the soil, tap 15 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: into the heartbeat, get into the depths of the creatives 16 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: and the masters who've made this good and be shipped 17 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: that we got him that enough building. 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: Nick. Uh. Discography is a real thing. Uh. The list 19 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: is long, the work undefeated. 20 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: Uh. If you see this man, if you look at him, 21 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 3: you wouldn't You wouldn't be able to tell the time 22 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: that has been put in because he's been preserved because 23 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: of the quality that he's been putting into the atmosphere 24 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: that has been circling back to him. 25 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to say too many words. I want 26 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: the man to speak. 27 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: The Man of God deserves an opportunity to say the speak. 28 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: Uh. They call him Jasper. 29 00:01:54,200 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, big love. 30 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: Listen. 31 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody with the name big Love. Yeah, you out 32 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: of control? 33 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 5: Hey, man, you know. 34 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 6: I'm here for I'm here for the people. 35 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 1: He's promoting something. He love. When she asked you, what's 36 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: your name? Big Love? Baby? Yeah? 37 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 5: Baby, come get a slice of you, get a. 38 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: Piece of it. Come get a piece give me that, 39 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 3: give me big Love. Where does big Love come from? 40 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: How did you even get to that? 41 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: Man? 42 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 5: I tell you what's so crazy? I really hijacked this name. 43 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 5: So years ago, many Fresh and Jazzy Fay was doing 44 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 5: the group. Put myself in the group. I said, what 45 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 5: the name y'all? 46 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: Group? 47 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 5: Big Love? 48 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 6: I put my I made myself a member. 49 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: What l Yeah, what's. 50 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 5: Up manny fres Yeah, I made myself a member. And 51 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 5: then I just took They still calling me big Love, 52 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 5: but the name of that group was supposed to be 53 00:02:59,120 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 5: Big Love. 54 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 6: And I insert myself in the group. 55 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 5: And I was in the group and we were Big Love, 56 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 5: and I took the name Big Love. 57 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: I said, it's got to be me, it's got to 58 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: be got to be mean. Yeah. Man, whatever happened to 59 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: the crew, man? 60 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: You know what? 61 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 5: Some praise, man, they would get some get some more money. 62 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 5: Back then, man, my god, they was on five. They 63 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 5: was getting it and they was just let me hang along. 64 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 5: I couldn't believe it. 65 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: My brother, you've done your part. Yeah, you've done your party. 66 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: I promise you had. And I just want to you know, 67 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: first of all, you number you're number one as we 68 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: touched down. Oh number you you're number one, no higher. 69 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: You're kicking this thing off, kicking off the right way, 70 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So the bar is high. 71 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, whoever else comes and sits in that chair 72 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: right here, you know, get the bars hot elevated. 73 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: But I want to go back to. 74 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: The beginning because you know you you we we all 75 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: from a familiar place, sir, to where this thing started 76 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: for you, to where to where somebody said, boy, that 77 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: boy right there he got You said to yourself, I 78 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: got something. 79 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 5: Got Some man started on the West side of Atlanta. 80 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 5: My mama, Missus Clergey, and my whole family from the 81 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 5: West side of Atlanta, you know what I'm saying. And 82 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 5: they made everybody in my family either had to be 83 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 5: in the church choir on an urschel board. You got 84 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 5: to go to church, and you gotta be you got 85 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 5: to be involved. You ain't got no choice, you know 86 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. And what's so crazy it is the 87 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 5: church I went to Greater Springfield. It's in the bluff. 88 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 5: The actual pastor of that church is DC young Fly Daddy. 89 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 90 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 5: So the pastor of my church, Solomon Whitfield Junior, is 91 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 5: DC young Fly Daddy. 92 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: Stop playing. 93 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, so that was the pastor of my church, and 94 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 5: so my whole family. You know what I'm saying. He 95 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 5: probably I remember him. He was a baby. Actually, his 96 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 5: mama and my mama went to high school together. You know, 97 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 5: his parents had him late in life, so he was Yeah, 98 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 5: so he was when I when I was teaching. 99 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 6: He was a baby when I was a teenager. So 100 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 6: it started in church. 101 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 5: So my whole family went to the church and it 102 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 5: was like y'all gonna sing be in a ursher board. 103 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 5: So it started there and then what ended up happening 104 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 5: was in school one day this the teacher made everybody 105 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,559 Speaker 5: get up and sing, you know, the stop spang abound 106 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 5: or whatever. So this dude got up. I went to 107 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 5: Kye Heights Elementary School on the west side Lema, and 108 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 5: the teacher got made this boy get up and sing right, 109 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 5: and he couldn't sing, and everybody started laughing. I wasn't 110 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 5: even laughing. She looked straight at me and say, well, 111 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 5: since you think it's so funny, you get up and sing. 112 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 5: I don't really know I can sing. I just know 113 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 5: what I do at church. And so when I got 114 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 5: up and sang, she say, oh, you can sign for real. 115 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 5: She took me to the music teacher, offers Ms. Holloway. 116 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 5: And from that point on, I was either doing music 117 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 5: at church. This second grade scond, so either I was 118 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 5: doing music at church or I was doing it at school. 119 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 5: So by then, you know, you fully in mercy at 120 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 5: you at church and then you at school doing music. 121 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 5: And then I go home with my big brother and 122 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 5: them they doing music. So I was just encompassed by music. 123 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 5: What was your big brothers though, Man, my big brother 124 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 5: he had a group, but they was listening to rap. 125 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 5: You know, when you were older brothers there, you know 126 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 5: they put you on the stuff earlier than everybody else 127 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 5: in your age group because they you know, when you 128 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 5: got big the streets, so you know they was putting 129 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 5: me on I was. I was faster than most kids 130 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 5: my age because I was learning from my big brothers 131 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 5: and my cousins and them, and I was on the 132 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 5: music they was on, so they was exposing me and everything. 133 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 5: I never forget when I rapped, we was on Too 134 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 5: Short two Live crew. I wasn't supposed to listen to that, 135 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 5: but that's what they listened to. 136 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: Taking that back to the elementary, please believe it. 137 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 5: We on the We're on the top field, somebody saying, hey. 138 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 3: We want some Yeah, you can say podcast, puse, Yeah, 139 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 3: we want it. 140 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 6: We're listening to Too Short. 141 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 5: Her name was Rinder, like a brand new Hunt. So 142 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 5: I'm listening to all that. But then, but then, but 143 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 5: then my mama. But then I go to my mama. 144 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 6: She making us learn whining songs. 145 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then we go around the corner and then 146 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 5: we on no Audition and then we're on Michael. 147 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 6: That song was just a bunch of mixture of everything. 148 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 6: So it's all of that mixed and one. So you 149 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,799 Speaker 6: just getting all this music. Then I never forget. 150 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 5: The first record I wanted my mama to buy me 151 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:58,559 Speaker 5: was ass We Laid by SHERYLO. 152 00:06:58,640 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: Murder. 153 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 6: I didn't know what the song. I didn't know what 154 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:01,559 Speaker 6: the song meant. 155 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 5: I asked my mama day, I said, Mom, you bout me, 156 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 5: asked me, like, she's like, what you know about that song? 157 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 6: It was once I got older, I realized the words 158 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 6: was a cheat song. 159 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 5: But I'm eight. 160 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: But what was happening to you? You felt? 161 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 6: Did I'm like, whatever she's singing, but she meaning you? 162 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: It was it was It was a sonic that that 163 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: resonated with you that at the time you didn't understand 164 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 3: was was actually giving birth to, you know, to what 165 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 3: you would ultimately do. Like I tell everybody all the time, 166 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: like I didn't get as much as I was in 167 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: church and from Reverend James Cleveland and all of these 168 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: things that we were singing and junior choir, all that stuff. 169 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 3: All that stuff was great and I had to do it, 170 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: you know, we had to do We had to do it. 171 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: But I didn't get captivated with music. It didn't captivate 172 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: me or stop me in my tracks. Until I'm walking 173 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: past the TV and the Charlie Brown's Christmas is playing. 174 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 5: What is it? 175 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: What is that and what is it doing to me? 176 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 6: I feel it? 177 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: And that was. 178 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: The start of me like being obsessed with music because 179 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 3: that was the first thing I obsessed about, trying to 180 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: play the songs in the Charlie Brown Christmas. 181 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 5: It's crazy. You don't know when music. 182 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: I think for me it was. 183 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 7: Sorry Shaw Oh yeah yeah that was like pass what 184 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 7: a song? 185 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 6: What is that? 186 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: What is what is that? Yeah? Yeah that was my 187 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: first one. Yeah, it really caught me. That was like, okay, 188 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: I like that like this, Yeah. 189 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: That's fire too as that song. Those are songs that 190 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 3: like like I remember them, songs like I remember being 191 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 3: somewhere with those songs like like vividly you know what 192 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 193 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 8: And we were living on the street cross the Lenisle 194 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 8: Street and point point. Yeah, to this day, I just 195 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 8: remembered you right back death put you right there. That's 196 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 8: what supposed to it's supposed to put time staff place. 197 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Mama bout you Shirley Murdo. 198 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 5: She did, and I played it out. Yeah, oh man, 199 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 5: that's Charlot murder out. What she could sign? 200 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: Boy? 201 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 5: So she brought me that Charlo murdered out man. And 202 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 5: you know, was she the first staith evans Man? 203 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 6: Yeah? Wow, think about it. 204 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: That Bocaton was very unique. She was she was not 205 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: holding back. 206 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 6: On computer love and focus on computer. 207 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: Love, was holding into. 208 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: It, going crazy, going crazy. So so so we we're 209 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: we're we're in elementary school, probably out of elementary school now, 210 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 3: but you have been exposed to be too short, Yes, sir, 211 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: The Whinings, Yes sir. Two Live Crews, Shirley Murder Yeah 212 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: uh new edition before fifth grades. Okay, Wow, when does it? 213 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: When does it inspire you to actually do something of 214 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 3: your own, something original from yourself. 215 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 5: What happened was this right here right So Atlanta has 216 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 5: a very rich talents show culture and skater ring culture. 217 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 5: So all these acts everybody eventually seen come out of 218 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 5: here from TLC, from Chris Cross, the ABC, from even Jermaine, 219 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 5: the pre Dallas House organized noise. 220 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 6: All of us used to be these skating rinks. 221 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 5: It was. It was skating rings and the talents show culture. 222 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 5: So ultimately what happened was ABC hit ABC Hit. That 223 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 5: was one of the first groups in I in Our 224 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 5: Age record to hit ABC Hit with Sue and we 225 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 5: found out the producer from Banana Dallas. They were signed 226 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 5: on Michael Bibbs. You know Michael Biver's on fire right here. 227 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 5: You know Michael Bivers the first like puffing all of that, 228 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 5: so he on fire. So after ABC here it the 229 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 5: next group was Chris Cross. What happened was they put 230 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 5: out the press release that Chriscross got discovered in the 231 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 5: mall by Jermaine dupri So. That made every young person 232 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 5: in Atlanta. We went to the mall every weekend. Around 233 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 5: the mall, we was getting kicked out of Linars, go 234 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 5: to Green Bright, go go to South wherever we was 235 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 5: going to the mall because we're like, this is how 236 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 5: Chrisscross did it. 237 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 6: So crazy about Criscross. I went to school with light. 238 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 5: Skin, Chris brother and sister, Jennifer and Loney Chris, light Skin, Chris, Jennifer, 239 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 5: Lonia went to school with me. He was like a 240 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,599 Speaker 5: two younger, but they had hit by the time he 241 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 5: supposed to come to high school. So I went to 242 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 5: so we all see we seeing everybody. We were like, 243 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 5: man and at the same time, the face moved down here. 244 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 5: Come on, the face moved down here. So you get 245 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 5: ABC go bam. They would, Oh they were bft in Dallas, Boom, 246 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 5: We on Chris Cross, boom Jamaine on, Oh man, the 247 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 5: face move here Atlanta boom. So it's every It's talent 248 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 5: shows everywhere, its group's everywhere, and uh and it just happened. 249 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 5: I was in eighth grade and one of the people 250 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 5: I went to eighth grade high school with was her 251 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 5: g Rock. 252 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: It was up. 253 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 5: They're from Allen Temple, They're from Adamsville, my neighborhood. They 254 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 5: end up getting them a deal and their manager who 255 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 5: end up getting them to deal. 256 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 6: With Jojo and Dave. 257 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 5: They was like the biggest street guys in Atleanta, and 258 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 5: they happened to be jeezy cousins later on. That's how 259 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 5: I made Jesus through them. So alta small like that. 260 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 5: So this this, this is like ninety ninety one or something. 261 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 5: We kids, and he like, man, look, we just got 262 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 5: us a deal. They twelve and thirteen. We just got 263 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 5: us a deal with Capitol. 264 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: You know. 265 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 5: Joe, Jo and David by manager. They want another singing group. Man, 266 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 5: they want another singing group. Go get some of them 267 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 5: lame man niggas. You in the chow wit. 268 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 6: It's exactly what he said. 269 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 5: This is exactly what he said, Man, go get some 270 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 5: of them lame man niggas. You in the chorus with Yeah, 271 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 5: Go get some of the lame man nigga you in 272 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 5: the chords with a bit yob and y'all go do 273 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 5: a demo I'm like, what's a demo? So he said, okay, 274 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 5: because at. 275 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: This point, the neighborhood know you sing, because you know in. 276 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 5: School once you once you start doing stuff in school, 277 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 5: now that you know, it's gonna start spreading. And then 278 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 5: they know they little fat jobs. But who be singing 279 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 5: yeah little little fat jazz. Yeah yeah, you know how 280 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 5: they doing it. They described it by whatever they little 281 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 5: they little fat Joss. They be saying, you know what 282 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 5: I'm saying, so you know what I'm saying. They look 283 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 5: fat Johns, but they be saying so they know. So 284 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 5: that's why he like man group. 285 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: Because little is like it's endearing, but it's also disrespect. 286 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: It's it's also dismissing everything. 287 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 6: But it's like, yeah, my god, So that was mess 288 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 6: that little card. 289 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 5: How they describe so they look fat job, but they'll 290 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 5: be singing yeah. And so we put the group together. 291 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 3: Man. 292 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 5: From then on, when I put the group together with 293 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 5: the guys, we had a group. We had a group now. 294 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 5: So we just was like, okay, well they just thug 295 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 5: it out. So we started doing the talent shows and 296 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 5: all that stuff too, and we didn't win, not one 297 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 5: talent show because one twelve won all of them and 298 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 5: that group name was Fort. 299 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 6: They won every talent show. 300 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: They won everyone what twelve because same like that. 301 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 6: When they was twelve and thirteen, man, it was off. 302 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: It was the four guys. 303 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 5: Was he quit As wasn't in the group yet. Quinn's 304 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 5: was actually in another group, but it was slim. 305 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 6: It was the run. It was Mike and they had 306 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 6: a bass. You remember when Boys and Men came out, 307 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 6: every group had to have a base. 308 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 5: Everybody had to have a base. So they had to 309 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 5: do with a deep voice in the group. But they 310 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 5: were singing like that. I promised to God. When we 311 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 5: was thirteen to twelve, thirteen and fourteen, they were singing 312 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 5: like that. They was called Fort back then, and they 313 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 5: like from the South. They're actually from the same neighborhood 314 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 5: young thug from like like one twelve, from like Jonesbord 315 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 5: South and all of that. So they from over there, 316 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 5: so you know what I mean. So they but them 317 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 5: boys could sing. Man, they were every We could never 318 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 5: beat them, but everybody. But all of a sudden, everybody 319 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 5: out of them talent, out of them Talness Show. They 320 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 5: started getting signed and stuff. Because then everybody started coming down. 321 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 5: I'll never forget. When one twelve got they did, we 322 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 5: was like, oh my god. I seen Slim one time 323 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 5: in the hood at the store. 324 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 6: He said, boy, we just shot a video. We in 325 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 6: New York with pop Daddy. He said what he said, boy, 326 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 6: we got a video. What do y'all see this? 327 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 5: We seen that video. We say, oh, it's really for real. 328 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah yeah, because everybody, our whole generation, everybody was 329 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 5: getting signed. First of all, Escape got, you know, Jamaine signed, 330 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 5: They got put on You know what I say, every 331 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 5: last one of them groups. Everybody knew each other or 332 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 5: one person in the group because everybody was getting sign Yeah. 333 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: It was crazy. Yeah they got. 334 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 5: When they came down here, they plugged the man. I 335 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 5: promised to God, you could go around back then and 336 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 5: you will see all of that. Like any rapper that 337 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 5: ever made it out of here. I knew him way 338 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 5: before they was. I knew him since we was like 339 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 5: in elementary school or high school or something. 340 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: Were you guys doing original music? 341 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 5: See what happened was my brother and them seemed See 342 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 5: I had older brothers and cousins, so by the fault 343 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 5: there was management because they was old enough with the 344 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 5: cars and driving us around. So they used to take 345 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 5: us to the shows and stuff, so we used to 346 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 5: go try to. They used to pay for us to 347 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 5: win studio time. You know, they was in the streets 348 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 5: and doing all kinds of stuff. So they had the 349 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 5: little money, they'll go pay for studio time to sing 350 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 5: and stuff. 351 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 6: And I remember we used to pay studio time. And 352 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 6: I remember we was like man. Our group. 353 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 5: We was all kind of like arch kids because we 354 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 5: could play and sing and stuff. We were like man. Instead 355 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 5: of pant they giving us wax songs. We could sing 356 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 5: our own wax songs. That's our only thing. Like instead 357 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 5: of paying for these demo we could do our own 358 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 5: wax songs. If they're gonna be terrible, we might as 359 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 5: well sing our own terrible songs. So that's what made 360 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 5: us doing it, because we could already play and all 361 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 5: that kind of time. 362 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: You hadn't written anything. 363 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 5: Now we haven't. 364 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: We wasn't. 365 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 6: We wasn't really writing. 366 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 5: We only started writing songs for real, for real because 367 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 5: we wanted to have our songs for demo because we 368 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 5: was paying other people to do songs, and it was 369 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 5: like they were wax. 370 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 6: So they're like, we're about twelve, because you know, the 371 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 6: first demo. 372 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 5: We were doing covers you know how, you know how 373 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 5: you're going there and you make they'll redo tracks for 374 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 5: you for demo. So when we got you start getting 375 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 5: more mature, and we're like, well man, we kind of 376 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 5: want to do our own songs. We started trying to 377 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 5: get people do their songs. We were like, well man, 378 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 5: we run now we could play pianos and sing and 379 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 5: all of that. We could do that if if they terrible. 380 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 5: Now my group was pure Bliss. We got that from 381 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 5: a cool J song. We did what we did with 382 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 5: our boys and men swimming in the on the exits 383 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 5: a pure Bliss. We said, that's our name, like, yeah, 384 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 5: pure Bliss. We got it from the hay Lovel song 385 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 5: Pure Bliss. 386 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 6: We had had it after that. You never know it. 387 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 5: Pure Bliss, and we thought we was Hey, we thought 388 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 5: we were so dope. Man, them songs. Let me tell you, 389 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 5: we thought we were so dope. I went back to 390 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 5: listen to them songs one day. 391 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: I said, I don't. 392 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: Wonder nobody, Hey listen man, I've had that moment with myself. 393 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: I listened to some old ship I was I was 394 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: like that nigga was. 395 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 6: We were so packed out though, that. 396 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 5: I remember we did this one show one time, right, 397 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 5: we had a showcase and this dude seen the show. 398 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 5: He like, listen, I don't know about those songs, but 399 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 5: y'all can perform real good. 400 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: You know. 401 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 5: We said that nigga ain't in here, that nigga don't 402 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 5: know nothing. Man, what these songs ain't right? We were 403 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 5: crazy psyched out from Letlanta nigga. Right, You're like, man, 404 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 5: you crazy. These songs hard. Them songs was terrible. 405 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 6: And he was trying. 406 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 4: He was trying to give him some some good little game, 407 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 4: just a little game. 408 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: We were. 409 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 6: We were so we were like, man, you tripping, you tripping. 410 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: You can't hear this? 411 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 3: So this So did you emerge out of all of 412 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: that as like, well, see the premier guy. 413 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 5: I wouldn't know because really I ain't really no singer 414 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 5: like that won't be real with you. 415 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna stytus, you know. 416 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 5: I just want to put on some clothes and look 417 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 5: like I'm in B B D or something, and you know, 418 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 5: put everybody together. I could write the songs, I could play, 419 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 5: I could do all that, but I am I ain't 420 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 5: dying to sing, like I ain't one of the ones, 421 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 5: I gotta singing styling us. 422 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 6: I'm I'm gonna said, big boy, big boy, you know 423 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 6: what I'm say. I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna do 424 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 6: the big big boy hunt and all that. 425 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm if you see, yeah, the street just yelling, you 426 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 427 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 5: So what happened was so eventually through all of these 428 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 5: things we finally meet we get to manage my management. 429 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 5: Just having having a studio, you know, through going through 430 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 5: Brench studios, we met our management dude named Leonard, so 431 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 5: we just so he had him to have a studio. 432 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 5: So at this studio one day, this lady come in 433 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 5: and he said, man, y'all need to come meet this lady. 434 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 5: It was a lady named joryce Urby. I'm gonna tell 435 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 5: y'all who jorce Urby is. 436 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: She was. 437 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 5: She the lead singer of the group Climax, So the 438 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 5: song the Me and All Pause and I Miss You 439 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 5: and all of that. She came up with babyfacing all 440 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 5: of them. She came up at the studio time one 441 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 5: day and he said, y'all need to meet her. She 442 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 5: in the business. She also discovered Dallas Austin. So to 443 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 5: put it all together, so we call meet her one 444 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 5: day and she's like, oh, y'all, y'all, y'all, yeah, we 445 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 5: did our songs with whatever. She's like, y'all wrote them songs. 446 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 5: We're like yeah. She like, I'm gonna help y'all get 447 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 5: a deal. But this is what I want to do too. 448 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 5: I want to help y'all need to help me find 449 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 5: another group that's a little bit younger than y'all. I'm 450 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 5: gonna get y'all a deal, and then we're gonna put 451 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 5: a group together for some guys because by this time 452 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 5: we was out of high school. We Liken Well was 453 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 5: one of one of them, was still in high school 454 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 5: by just graduated, so we were about eighteen seventeen th 455 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 5: six dollars, still teens. And she was like, we're gonna 456 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 5: go find a put a younger group together, and then 457 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 5: I'm gonna hep get y'all a deal. I'm gonna get 458 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 5: another group of deal. Well in the process us gett 459 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 5: us a deal. She said, y'all help me find another 460 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 5: young group too. She goes in the yearbook, she goes 461 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 5: in the yellow Pages and say, okay, I told her. 462 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 5: I say, my aunt Tie Church got two little boys 463 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 5: that can sign, and she like, you're gonna go get 464 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 5: them me? Like yeah, we went to the church and 465 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 5: got them to a little boy. She said, I'm gonna 466 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 5: find somebody else. She went through her yellow pages and 467 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 5: she was going through the alphabets in the first Oh hey, 468 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 5: let me call this elementary school. She called the first 469 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 5: elementary school she could find, Avndale Elementary, east side of Atlanta. 470 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 5: She's and she was like, I'm looking for kids that 471 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 5: can sing and to teach. The principals Like, well, I 472 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 5: think I got one person will be perfect for y'all. 473 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 5: She like, oh, come go meet him. So she goes 474 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 5: and meets the little boy she called. She calls and said, look, 475 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 5: I think I found our star. Meet me tonight at 476 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 5: the Red Lobster on Camel rode down the street from 477 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 5: south to cal Mall. I never forget this, you know, 478 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 5: we driving by this point we eighteen, but that nineteen. 479 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 5: She like, meet me at the Red Lobster. Anybody from Atlanta, 480 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 5: y'all know this Red loss by south of Caroma, on 481 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 5: the east side of Alanda, the Cala Road. We meet. 482 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 5: We walk in the building. The first thing, this little 483 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 5: boy run up on me, say you sang shouting, and 484 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 5: the boy started singing, I Believe I Can Fly. It 485 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 5: was Lord. 486 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 6: He was ten. I said, what is this little current 487 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 6: of hand? 488 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 5: Boy? He he was already ad I'm talking about the 489 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 5: first thing. He ran up on me the first thing. 490 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 5: He said, yeah, you can sign, shouted I can sign, 491 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 5: and he started singing I Believe I Can Fly by 492 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 5: R Kelly. 493 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 6: I'm like, I don't know who this. 494 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 5: Little This little boy's star, she said. 495 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 6: She said he was like him. 496 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 5: I said, oh, ever since then, me and him we've 497 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 5: been tight. So then we start actually writing the demos 498 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 5: for the young group. We put him with the two 499 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 5: little boys we found at the church, and then she 500 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 5: ain't up. They got a deal quicker than us. So, 501 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 5: but at that point she had us writing their demos. 502 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 5: This one I found out song writing was a real 503 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 5: job because she like, listen, Josper No, Lord likes you. 504 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 5: So you want to sit here with him and you're 505 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 5: gonna write his verses and you're gonna make teach him 506 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 5: how to sing the songs or whatever. 507 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 6: I'm like, Okay, this is gonna get us a record 508 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 6: deal too, Okay, Cuz at this point record. 509 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 5: Told me, man, I want to be on B E 510 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 5: T Black Star Power all I care about. Man, we 511 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 5: got a video. Yeah, and she's like, yeah, y'all gonna 512 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 5: get it for yo, they gonna get I'm like cool, 513 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 5: So she put load on me. But so we end 514 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 5: up doing this demo. By the time, we working so 515 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 5: close together. He become my little brother. So he he 516 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 5: youngest point, he ten. So since that point we always 517 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 5: been together. So his group good a deal. We good 518 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 5: a deal. We never got no video, never got your video. 519 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 5: He got his video though. 520 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: He got a group. 521 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 5: They got a lot off. 522 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: He got a few of them. 523 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 5: So and and you know, through that whole process, and 524 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 5: that's how I mean him ended. 525 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 6: Up being so tight. 526 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: So when he came out as an artist, Yeah, in 527 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: the beginning, he came out with a group. 528 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 5: He was with a group called in Tune. 529 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: I remember that. 530 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was Lloyd's least sing of that group. Yeah, 531 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 5: I think I think I knew. They and Tricky them 532 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 5: did their first song and Candy wrote it. They was 533 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 5: They did the song called Ready. And what was so 534 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 5: crazy was in the midst of us doing the demo, 535 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 5: she called us again, she can't look I got another 536 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 5: little guy. I don't know if I want him to 537 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 5: be in the group, I want him solo. I'm goin 538 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 5: to bring him down. She went and got this other 539 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 5: little guy and brought him down and she was like, nah, 540 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 5: he's gonna be solo because I can get two separate deals. 541 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 6: That Look, I was seven. 542 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 5: She was moving should down. So now she was fond. 543 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 5: And then she had signed Dallas at this point, so 544 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 5: you have by not that. But they had no they 545 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 5: had no issues or whatever. But they worked it out. 546 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 5: But one under the one condition was and when she 547 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 5: found her acts in her groups, Dallas were gonna do 548 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 5: songs on them. You got to realize at this point, 549 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 5: Dallas the biggest producer in the world. He doing TLC, ABC, 550 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 5: he doing Boys and Me and this back when you 551 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 5: were telling Diamond Records, and he right now producing the songs. 552 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 6: He got a real studio, this one. 553 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 5: Having a real studio meant something for real for even 554 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 5: though it's still mean something, it's just different back then. Yeah, 555 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 5: And so she brought us all over to Dallas. He 556 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 5: started working on Lloyd album and he say, but I'm 557 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 5: gonna sign Sammy solo. But Lloyd already had his deal. 558 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: Lloyd had a solo deal no, Lloyd had an album 559 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: with this group. 560 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 5: With the group, Okay, so Dallas working on a group album, 561 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 5: and he like, but I'm gonna sign Sammy solo because 562 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 5: that way she didn't have to put Sammy in the 563 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 5: group with Lord. She'll let Lloyd keep being in the 564 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 5: lead singer. She's like, I'm gonna get a whole another 565 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 5: budget with Sammy through this process. And through all this process, 566 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 5: that's when I meet Dallas through and Lloyd. I used 567 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 5: to write our Lord songs. So layd to tell Dallas, man, 568 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 5: my friend ain't gonna come and write my songs with me. 569 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was me hmm. 570 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 5: So he Lloyd keep bringing me to the studio, Dallas, 571 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 5: my friend gonna come write my songs with me, And 572 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 5: so I ended up getting signed the Dallas at that 573 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 5: point Dark but she put all us together. 574 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: Ah Man, shout out to Joe, Shout out Joyce. 575 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 5: She worked on Shout Out Leonad too, because Leonald he 576 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,719 Speaker 5: put us up, Leonard Watkins and George Urban and they 577 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 5: put it was like crazy and then and what was 578 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 5: so crazy what ended up happening was Sammy, even though 579 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 5: we stopped working on him way later, you know, because 580 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 5: it was like a year and a half of us 581 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 5: working on Lloyd demos with his group and when her 582 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 5: finding Samuel was thinking about put him in the group, 583 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 5: Dallas had just got his new label deal, so he like, 584 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 5: I'm gonna put Sammy out fast. So he did one. 585 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 5: So the first song he put on he did on 586 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 5: Samon was I like it. That's the very first song 587 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 5: they ever recorded, and that and he's this when I 588 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 5: know when you when you're on the road, This is 589 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 5: when I know you could call your shots. He told her, 590 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 5: he said, I'm gonna write SEMMI single the night that 591 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 5: man went in that room and wrote it, and he said, 592 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 5: I'm gonna have this aut in three months. 593 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 6: And the thing was out him three months and that 594 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 6: thing was on Fas said me, this, I go. 595 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: Everywhere, you know, so like so at that. 596 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 5: Point, you know, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm around everything. 597 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 5: I'm it, you know what i mean. The Dallas he 598 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 5: rocked with me, he took me, he signed me. You 599 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. He let me be around the 600 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 5: studio every day. All they taught me how to make 601 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 5: it be right, the production are right, you know, because 602 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 5: you don't really know what you're doing until you see 603 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 5: people who actually really do on that on the level. Yeah, 604 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 5: because you know, we just sit by, We just sit 605 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 5: by records by make the voice. 606 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 6: It sounded like that. 607 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, it sound like a million people singing. We ain't 608 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 5: know about no stacks, but how they get their drums 609 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 5: like that. We didn't know. 610 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 6: You had to go sithing, you know, the things you 611 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 6: do to get the production right. 612 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 5: So he let me be around him when he was 613 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 5: the top producer and get all that game with precious game, Dallas, 614 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 5: real man, and so that knowledge that from that point 615 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 5: it was all in the game. 616 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: One of the goats, one of the yeah, for sure, 617 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: for real, for real early though too early, early, early, early. 618 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 6: When people didn't even really know what that means. 619 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: We didn't even know. We didn't didn't know. Yeah, yeah, 620 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: we didn't know those levels. 621 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 5: You didn't even know. 622 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: You know, it was mystical to us. 623 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, you didn't know. 624 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: He was like a deity. He's like, that's I guess 625 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: that's what Jesus. I was just always here dark exactly. 626 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: It was a special place exactly. I'd never been there before, 627 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: but I would hear it. I'm on the whole other 628 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: side of the country. 629 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 5: God went on Instagram back then. 630 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was back then. We needed to learn differently. 631 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: We need to be able to we need to be 632 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: able to recover. 633 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 5: I see it all quick things some time about on 634 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 5: the highest level. I said, okay, yeah, see what's. 635 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 8: Going on, because it's something different to see it, but 636 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 8: then to actually be able to touch it, that's different. 637 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 638 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 8: Yeah, like like right now they're getting to see things 639 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 8: around the world, not touching. 640 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: They not touching, you know what I'm saying. So Sammy 641 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: is your first release. 642 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 5: Well, see, Sammy actually was the first release because he 643 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 5: because he put it out quick. 644 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: So you start writing on the early stuff too, Yes, 645 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: because I. 646 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 5: Was doing Yeah, I was doing Sammy and Lord because 647 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 5: we was all in the same Lady George Erby, So 648 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 5: I was That's how I learned really how to write 649 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 5: for other people because I really worked on them. Yeah, 650 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So I practiced a whole 651 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 5: long time on Lord, but when I got with Semi, 652 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 5: I had pretty much polished it up and that was 653 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 5: ready to put the album out fast. 654 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: And Sammy's what ten eleven. 655 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 6: Twelve right there too? Eleven or twelve? 656 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. 657 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 5: So If you go look at Sammy first videos, you 658 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 5: see Lord and all them in there, because we all 659 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 5: was part of the same crew. We was all signed 660 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 5: to the same lady, you know what I mean, managing 661 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 5: us all and putting us out with Dallas and all 662 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 5: of that. 663 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 6: And so when Sammy blew up, then that we're working. 664 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: And then at that point did they let you in 665 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: any of the videos because I'm waiting. 666 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 5: For you, man, I never got my man. I never 667 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 5: got in them video. I ain't start the layter really 668 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 5: giving them video. Man. 669 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 6: You know, man, I wanted a video, my man. I'm 670 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 6: telling you, man, that what it was. 671 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 7: Man. 672 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 6: I signed. Man, I signed my first day. I ain't 673 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 6: even no lawyer. 674 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: Do we get the video? Did a lawyer? 675 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 5: It was terrible. I should have. 676 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: He just wanted the video. 677 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 3: Man. 678 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 6: I wanted a video. Man, I ain't even a video. 679 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 6: I ain't gonna put I ain't even gonna putting. 680 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 5: No cap on. I ain't no all I was thinking about. Man, 681 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 5: if we get the video on b TV, gonna be rich. 682 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: That's it. 683 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 5: That's all. 684 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 6: At least we're gonna be finals. 685 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll figure the rest. You've been in some 686 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: videos though. 687 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 6: Well later you know what I'm saying. But it was 688 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 6: after I understood with certain you know what, but. 689 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: I say, you know, Jay got a video coming up 690 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: with video? 691 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, my man, Right, you should have 692 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 5: been on Jason, I'm a bombs said, you know, come 693 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 5: steal cameos y'all remember the steal cameo days. 694 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: Still cameo like, man, what he doing is that? What 695 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: is it? That was serious? Busy boy? 696 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 5: You getting the cameos for? 697 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: So it was your first hit record? 698 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 5: Man, The first record that I probably say it was 699 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 5: a real hit that I was a part of, probably 700 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 5: was Christin n Aguilera Dirty that was the Yeah. So 701 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 5: I didn't know nothing, like you know, we was writing 702 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 5: around everybody, but I didn't even really know. I used 703 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 5: to always wonder everybody want singles cause. 704 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: You know, some album cut a bunch of app cuts. 705 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 5: You know, placements. 706 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: You know. 707 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 5: We did the Sameme album. They end up going real good. 708 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 5: And then I worked on Nearby, a album that went 709 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 5: real good. I had a cop yeah you know what 710 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 5: I'm saying. So we end up around people around I 711 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 5: was doing a bunch of little I was doing a 712 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 5: bunch of you know songs, and I got and shout 713 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 5: out to Ryan Glover from knowing time he gave me 714 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 5: my first beat check. I couldn't believe it. Brian, So 715 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 5: you know you don't know how much beach you tell 716 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 5: beats for. You don't know none of that. You just 717 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 5: going and doing it. I gotta get I gotta get 718 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 5: him a shot because real I never I didn't understand. 719 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 5: I call it. Ryan say. 720 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 6: One day he come to the studio, He like, you 721 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 6: did this peak? 722 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 5: I like yeah. He like, okay, how much you gonna 723 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 5: charge me for it? I say, Man, I don't even know. 724 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be real with you, man, how much how 725 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 5: much y'ld buy I need for? 726 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 7: Man? 727 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Listen, I hope this ain't 728 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 6: frond of the mount too much? 729 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 5: Brand? Know how we get that? Ryan say, listen, I'm 730 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,239 Speaker 5: gonna tell the label you charged fifteen thousand dollars. I'm 731 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 5: gonna give you ten. 732 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 6: I say, run it, run it, run it, man, run it. 733 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 6: You're gonna give me. 734 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 5: This fuck fuck to me? 735 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: You you ain't saying nothing but what's right? 736 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 5: Hey, man? 737 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta give to get a man. 738 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 5: I ain't all I knew that, Man said listen I'm 739 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 5: gonna tell the label you charged fifteen thousand, you're gonna 740 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 5: get ten thousand. 741 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 3: I said, yes, I've had plenty of deals. Ay, man, 742 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 3: where I got ain't nothing wrong with it. I said 743 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 3: thirty and I got twenty. 744 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm gonna put mine on top. 745 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. So that's when I start. 746 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 5: Really you know, I'm hitting now. 747 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: You know now you charged fifteen, Yeah, fifteen, that's your 748 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: fo me. You know what I'm saying. Hey already bought. 749 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 5: To Yeah yeah, you know, but they could, man, they 750 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 5: might could have got a fire. I didn't know. 751 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 2: All yeah, what's the street that real lifts the real 752 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: life you two can have a beat. 753 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, real, So I was getting a little bit 754 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 5: of placement. So but I still didn't really understand the 755 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 5: value of a hit song. Yeah yeah, and really, man, 756 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 5: the Christina Guilera dirt is on that really just came off, 757 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 5: man for real. I ain't even like man like it 758 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 5: was because I'm dope. She really just used to like 759 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 5: hang around because you know, we having fun in the studio. 760 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 5: She was she came down to Alema and this was 761 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 5: she was still the pop princess. She came out here 762 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 5: and got caught up in it. 763 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: She said, got caught up. 764 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 5: She got caught up in next thing, you know. 765 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: She said, I my album dirty like she's feeling it. 766 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 5: She turned it to that and then she said, I 767 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 5: want to rock. This was she said, now this one, 768 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 5: this one, I know how this one I know trooperstars 769 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 5: called their plays. She say, the Red the Red Man 770 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 5: that Met the Man videos video was on TV. She said, 771 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 5: I need a beat like that. 772 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 6: She got her management irving as off call rock. 773 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 5: Wilder Rock wild. I sent the pack of beats and 774 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 5: she listenew She's like, this is gonna be my single. 775 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 5: She flew back to l A. 776 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 6: She called me like when she got back to l 777 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 6: A like, come out here, Jem. I had just di vibe. 778 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 6: I got to beat. I know it's gonna be my single. 779 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 6: Damn Manly, she ain't even really need me on the 780 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 6: we we got to hang on Blabe, what's up? 781 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 5: Blabel? Blair would have pretty much you know what I'm saying. 782 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 5: They know Bla would have done laces that thing up 783 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 5: and I walk in out. That's when I first met 784 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 5: Blabel and Blay were like, oh she got enough. But men, 785 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 5: he figured out I was cool. He was like, man, 786 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 5: come on here to finish this bridge and woo yeah 787 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 5: and that thing I know, man, she had a video 788 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 5: in three weeks. I'm like, oh this is oh this 789 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 5: that level, this that level man, she called the shot man. 790 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 5: That Dirty came out and man and it did what 791 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 5: it did. And that's when I found out what those 792 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 5: performance Roytis was like this when I figured out would 793 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 5: be in my asskout. Before I never knew I was 794 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 5: signed up to be on my but I didn't know 795 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 5: what it was for. I just the everybody just say 796 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 5: you got to be signed to me on my ass gut. 797 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: I was yeah. 798 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 6: Then I figured out why, Oh, that's why you want. 799 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: Perform when they start collecting money all over the world. 800 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 5: I say this, this makes sense because you know you 801 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 5: been still you hear people arguing over singles and hearing 802 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 5: people I want to single war. 803 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 6: I ain't never know why. Now I knew why. 804 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 5: So Dirty was probably the first record I was a 805 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 5: part of with with with everybody involved that really understood 806 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 5: that was like, okay, that's kind of a hit. 807 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 6: M hmm, yeah, that's come of the hit right now? 808 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: Do the phone calls get different after get well? 809 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 6: The thing about this. I don't know how this indugry works. 810 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 5: If you just even attached to anything that looks a 811 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 5: certain kind of way, people are gonna call you, you 812 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like they're just gonna call you 813 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 5: because they got dy version or whatever that is and 814 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 5: they want something like that or whatever. So the phone calls, 815 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 5: come man, can you come work with this and work 816 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 5: with that? 817 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, it definitely helped, But you've become part of 818 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 3: the conversation where it's like, Okay, this guy can deliver 819 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 3: it here. 820 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he he ain't gonna make a look bad. 821 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: And they're always going to give you a shot. 822 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 5: Give me a shot. 823 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 8: When you got your uh performance, run talk to them, 824 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 8: you know, I see you know. Oh yeah you got 825 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 8: you got your drip on? Oh yeah, those type of things. 826 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you buy? 827 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 6: Probably a whole bunch of ugly probably a whole probably 828 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 6: and a. 829 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 5: Bunch of chicken wing cheesecake factory, and a man, probably 830 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 5: a bunch of ugly old clothes. 831 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: Back then. 832 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 5: That then the strip club heavy come on, So that's what? 833 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: Which which one was you? 834 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 5: Oh my god? What was at the Magic City? Was 835 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 5: at the Blue Flame? Where we was at the gentleman 836 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 5: club man we did. 837 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god, man, you put some girls through college. 838 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 5: Man, you know what. I don't know if I did 839 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 5: that much, but I showed him how to help him 840 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 5: eat for a week or two. Yeah, yeah, and have 841 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 5: some good times. Yeah. I showed her I wasn't spending 842 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 5: that much money. You didn't because you know this before 843 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 5: just before making rain. 844 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 3: So we were so being meth hasn't at this mottill 845 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 3: win Yeah a long way. 846 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 6: It meant some man, you can still flip your sitting 847 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 6: piecing it off man, yea. We having us a girl friend. 848 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 5: For the night. 849 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, come on. Then I was really meant oh. 850 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 5: Man, and I went scared again at least fo'honand that 851 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 5: one man that was like, oh my god. 852 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, man was in there. I was. 853 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 5: And now we're piercing the mouth. Well oh oh some 854 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 5: club fired out of the table table dance. 855 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 6: It was some ten. 856 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 5: But man, we had some good times. Oh man, shooters 857 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 5: alley Yeah yeah, flash back. Oh yeah, man, you know 858 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 5: we was living it. 859 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: We was in it. What ye what year is this? 860 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 5: It's about two thousand and three and four. 861 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was down here because we said noontime. 862 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 3: I was down here early in ninety eight. 863 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 6: And I'm gonna tell you. 864 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 5: I remember. I'm gonna tell you the first time I 865 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 5: heard of you. I at the studio this when I 866 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 5: first signed to Dallas. JQ come busting in the street 867 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 5: and say, hey, man, I just met the most incredible 868 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 5: slinger in the world. He's gonna take over. 869 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 6: And I said, really, he said, and they called him 870 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 6: he said, he said, he said, now he better than 871 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 6: all us. JQ like, man, this man incredible. 872 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 5: I say, like, Dad, he said, Man, listen when I'm 873 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 5: telling you. He said, it's got tank man, He's incredible. 874 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 5: And that's the first time I heard about you. 875 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 6: He was like, man, wait, do y'all He because. 876 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 5: He was working a new time a lot. He came 877 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 5: around the corner. He was like, Man, wait, do y'all 878 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 5: hear this dude? 879 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: Man, wait, do y'all hears a noon time every day? 880 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yes, Teddy bitch Teddy Cox because before be Cox. 881 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 5: He he ain't got them twins. If he's blue, he's. 882 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 3: Still like tinkering around. And I'm like, he got okay, 883 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 3: all right? Because j Duve is the guy yo Jay Dub. 884 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 3: He was on fire the original Rocks. 885 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 6: He was out. 886 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 5: Yes, he was on fire fire, Oh my god, he 887 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 5: got Oh yeah, he was going crazy out here. Fire 888 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 5: he was going crazy. 889 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: And that's when I first met the Twins. 890 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 4: Wow. 891 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: And then be Cox was like, man, you gotta come over, 892 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: you know C J D spot and yeah, that's crazy. 893 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'd go over to they to go over 894 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 3: to Jermaine the Priest spot, the south Side beat, the 895 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 3: Twins and basketball, you know, Jacked, you know, I don't 896 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 3: know they want to talk about that story. 897 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 5: We're talking about. 898 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 8: Why are we talking about jadab though, Yeah, let's get 899 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 8: this out. Me and Tank did not know each other 900 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 8: at this point, and he is not saying this. Jay 901 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 8: in the beginning of Slowly people. 902 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 1: People, Jamie j great come on, because j played every 903 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: instrument he was on that special. He was in his draws. 904 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 3: Man, I don't know why that man was why that's 905 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 3: that's that's where he found the vibe. 906 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: He found he found in his draws found. 907 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 3: He didn't when he played the track for me, he said, 908 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 3: I said, well, you know, where's the where's the session for? 909 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: He said, I lost it and back then listening to 910 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: session so yeah, two track. Oh, yes, that's what I'm 911 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: talking it's the two track off CD. 912 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 5: Well, we got to do it what we got? 913 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: They never do that, I said, I said, whatever, Slowly 914 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: is a two track, that's amazing, two track off CD. 915 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: I said, there's no way you can reproduce this. 916 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 6: Y'all bounce it down the two track or did y'all 917 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 6: do it in pro tools? 918 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: I sang this on this might have been the first 919 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: song I sing in pro tools. That's crazy. 920 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 3: Slowly might be the first song I sing in pro 921 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 3: toos wy wow wow, because everything else before that was 922 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 3: to no separate tracks on Slowly, that's what that's your amazing. 923 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 6: That mix had to be on that CD for you 924 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 6: to be able to use it like that. 925 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: He wasn't gonna be able to do that again, ever, 926 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: I said, I don't care. 927 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 3: I don't care. I don't care if it's peaking, I 928 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 3: don't care. What the imperfection you ain't gonna be able 929 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 3: to do. 930 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 931 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 3: We rolled around l A and he it's bends with 932 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 3: them Law and hert rims for a week listening to 933 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 3: that track, eating that PF chain, chain man, having Apple Martine. 934 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 3: That's borrowing money from FLINTI giving us big paper in 935 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 3: the city. Yeah, Yeah, New Times. Crazy that that that 936 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 3: moment right there, like that was that was so and 937 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 3: that was so needed for me to But you weren't 938 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 3: a part. 939 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 5: Of I went a part of New Time. So what 940 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 5: happened was it just so happened that the first time 941 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 5: I used to see them around the city all time. 942 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 5: What up, Nooney? You know what I'm saying? 943 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: What up? Chris? 944 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 5: You know, I just see them around the city all 945 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 5: the time. But they had started popping off with their producers, 946 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 5: so I used to go with there. I was trying 947 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 5: to write, So they'll have they'll try to link their 948 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 5: producers up, they'll bring that tapes beats on there and so. 949 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 5: But when I first then when I started doing the beats, 950 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 5: that's when Ryan came start buying them from me too, 951 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So we used to always 952 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 5: go around each other and be around each other all 953 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:05,439 Speaker 5: the time. 954 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 1: What was you making your b tongue? 955 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 5: Yeah? You see two thousand excels? Yeah, yeah, a good 956 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 5: old try. 957 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 1: You started a two thousand excels Yeah, okay, okay. 958 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 5: Triting to try and I had to try, And then 959 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 5: I had the mom what that module was that had 960 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 5: our planet fast. 961 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 6: Planet fat what's that other one that eighty I had? 962 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 8: You know, like yeah, it was really like the starter 963 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 8: studio producer packed up everybody when you were like, yo, 964 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 8: I want to start by Okay you need ten yep, 965 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 8: yeah yeah no. 966 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: PC, it's a pack, it's a planet. 967 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, it's a thing we started off. Yeah yeah, yeah, 968 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 3: that was the kick. What what made you feel like 969 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 3: you could produce like that? That's that's what I want 970 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 3: to ask you, because you had your writing on. What 971 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 3: made you think, you know what, I can figure this 972 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 3: production out there? Somebody giving you the information like how 973 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 3: you said Dallas kind of brought you in and just 974 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 3: showed you the ropes? 975 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,399 Speaker 1: Was it from him or who was that from? 976 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 5: Definitely him? Because for real the first time. So when 977 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 5: I first met doubt it is the first thing I 978 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 5: did was play songs on piano and sang the songs 979 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 5: to him. 980 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 6: That's why he wanted to sign. 981 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 5: Me, like, oh you're one hundred percent so here like 982 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 5: oh you don't really need nobody, But I wasn't all 983 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 5: the way good on the beat. 984 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 1: Shit. 985 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 5: What happened was he let me sit around him, and 986 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 5: he let me sit around the studio. Then I really 987 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 5: learned by watching everybody how they did the beats. Then 988 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 5: I had a room in at the time who he 989 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 5: had got an MPC two thousand, Jeff, and he was 990 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 5: an intern at the studio, so he was my roommate. 991 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 5: So I practiced at home with him and then but 992 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 5: I knew I could produce because for real, what the producer. 993 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 5: The reason I started getting placement was because the producers 994 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 5: could give me the track and I produced everybody vocals 995 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 5: and I could make people sound good. And that learned 996 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 5: early on. If you can get artists to sound good, 997 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 5: they always want to work with you. Yeah, And it 998 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 5: was harder to do back then. You know, you had 999 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 5: to really vocal produce back then. Yeah, so every artist 1000 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 5: used to. So the producers started being like, that's what 1001 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 5: gonna write my songs because they ain't got to sit 1002 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 5: there with me and produce it. I'm a vocal producer. 1003 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 5: I'm gonna do it all. And so then after that 1004 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 5: it's like, man, I can already play, I can already 1005 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 5: vocal produce all. 1006 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 6: I gott dudes learn how to work this NPC the 1007 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 6: right way, and that's it. 1008 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 5: And so that's what I did. I practiced on the 1009 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 5: MPC for a little while, and then I'm like, okay, 1010 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 5: my ears put it all together, start fine tuning it, 1011 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 5: and then I start making beats, and man, they like 1012 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 5: they're gonna bite it your beats. Okay, well it must 1013 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 5: be good enough. 1014 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Cool. Did the beat that you sold did 1015 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: it ever come out? 1016 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 5: Ever came out? 1017 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: Just got your check? I just got my check your 1018 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: front end fron got Yeah, you have the four teen. 1019 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, he gave me to full ten. 1020 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: Yep, that was back then. 1021 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 5: He gave me the full thing. It wasn't even on 1022 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 5: front and back because he needed his five. Yeah, because 1023 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 5: he needed five. 1024 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: Pushed that through. 1025 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 5: Push it on cool. So it never even came out 1026 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 5: on that artist. It never even came out. And then 1027 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 5: after that it just started flowing. 1028 00:43:54,280 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 8: So you got derdy going, Yeah, when does like the 1029 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 8: full run kick in? Where is it is it Lloyd 1030 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 8: that kicks. 1031 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: It off for you? 1032 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 5: We'll see what happened with Llyd he throughout this whole time, 1033 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 5: Lord always still with me. Lloyd ended up losing his 1034 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 5: group record deal. But Lloyd was up early pre teen, 1035 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 5: but he was getting in trouble because Lord always been edged, 1036 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 5: so he was getting in trouble in school he was 1037 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 5: getting arrested and all that. 1038 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 6: So his mama was Lloyd Yeah, so Lloyd like Lloyd Yeah. 1039 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 6: So Lord was like you know. 1040 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 5: So his yeah, you know sor his mama used to 1041 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:32,760 Speaker 5: be like johs. But let him come to the studio 1042 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 5: with child. So she'll send him to the studio with us, 1043 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 5: my brother and we'll go pick him up. He ain't 1044 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 5: gonna be and my brother and my cousin to keep 1045 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,800 Speaker 5: him out of trouble. Just bring him to the studio, 1046 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So we started doing demos 1047 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 5: for him just because we just doing songs, and then 1048 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 5: he get a solo deal. So by him getting when 1049 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 5: when I send out the songs we was doing, he 1050 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 5: end up getting a solo deal. This was Matgic Johnson 1051 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 5: though this is Matt Johnson had his label ship, so 1052 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 5: he was signing Match Johnson. But in the time we 1053 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 5: finished during the album, none of the songs came out 1054 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 5: because Maggie Johnson decided to cut his label off. Well 1055 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 5: those same songs we had. So one day he in 1056 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 5: the studio and he was like, uh, he just hanging 1057 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 5: with me every dayt the studio. He just coming up 1058 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 5: being me, so he won't get in trouble. 1059 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 1: So Magic didn't pay for the demo. Practically, yeah back, Oh. 1060 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 6: He prayed for a whole album. Oh, mag of them 1061 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 6: played good. 1062 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 5: What do our things work out? So we had so 1063 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 5: now we had an album that for for good songs. 1064 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 5: So what happened was he was in the lawd was 1065 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 5: in the studio, hanging out every day with us. No, 1066 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 5: he just Lord was always mature for his aide. So 1067 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:30,839 Speaker 5: people didn't the girl. 1068 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: But at this point he's still a teenager. 1069 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,240 Speaker 5: He's still a teenager. He and I'm not fifteen to sixteen, 1070 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So one day he coming, 1071 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 5: Dondelle Jones got a session. So Dundelle Jones got a 1072 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 5: session at dark because you know Dallas used to run 1073 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 5: out of the studio. So done that. So so Mark 1074 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 5: pitts his A and R. So Mark Pitt's come in 1075 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 5: and he see Lloyd because you know he see him me. 1076 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 5: He a little young, he like a little hood dude 1077 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 5: with and he say, ask Lord, man what you do? 1078 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 5: He said, Man, I sang Mark Peces like no way 1079 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,359 Speaker 5: you sing, no way, no way you sing. He got 1080 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 5: sign he said, you got songs. So he said Jospeer. 1081 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 5: So you know, I'm always in the studio one where 1082 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 5: songs at. So I said, I got our songs right here. 1083 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 5: So we go in the room. Mark Pitts heard them songs. 1084 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,399 Speaker 5: Mark Pitce say no way. Mark Pitts jumped on the phone, 1085 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 5: try to call La. These same demo songs were the 1086 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 5: first songs Lloyd came out with, which was Hey Young 1087 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,240 Speaker 5: Girl in the south Side. 1088 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 6: Them them all these songs. 1089 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: Yd. 1090 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,240 Speaker 5: He was fifteen John So Matt Magic songs, Matti Johnson 1091 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 5: paid Yeah. So yeah, so he Gooyd had south Side, 1092 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 5: he had, he had a Hey Young Girl and all 1093 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,359 Speaker 5: that shit stuff and the other songs I had did. 1094 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 5: So when Mark Pitts heard all them songs, Mark pitt 1095 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 5: was like, man, we gotta sign you. So he called 1096 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 5: l A. He set up with me for Lord to 1097 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 5: go to l A mean and go to meet with La. 1098 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 5: So Lloyd about sixteen. At this point, so Lloyd he 1099 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 5: do he do the meaning he was about to go 1100 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 5: to New York to do that, meaning, I'm doing a 1101 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,320 Speaker 5: real fast version of you, okay. And so while he 1102 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 5: was up there about supposed to do his meeting with 1103 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:57,839 Speaker 5: La Reid, Lloyd, Lloyd's attorney Ron Sweeney, his IRV Gotti. Hey, 1104 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 5: I got this jumboll over here. He about to go 1105 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 5: meet with La Red, but you need to come see 1106 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 5: him before he go do that meeting with La Red. 1107 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 5: You need to come see this boy. 1108 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: Murder is on fire. 1109 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 5: Well at this point, it's kind of it's if this 1110 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 5: one fifty first coming up. 1111 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: So it was like a little yeah, I thought he 1112 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: was okay, but they had they're gonna fight. 1113 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,439 Speaker 6: You know, they were still the biggest, they were still 1114 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 6: like it's still like. 1115 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 5: Crazy, you know what I'm saying. So when Layd went 1116 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 5: to New York, we was all sitting back at home, 1117 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 5: like waiting to let us know how to l A 1118 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 5: Rea because we're gonna get us a you know, we 1119 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 5: gonna us l A Reed deal, you know what I mean. 1120 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 6: So he called me and. 1121 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,879 Speaker 5: Said, hey, chap Man, I'm at a shunty platinum party. Said, man, 1122 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 5: what you're doing all the shunting platinum party? He said, Man, 1123 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 5: earth got it. I think IRV wanna sign me? I said, 1124 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 5: IRV wanna sign you? He's like yeah, And so we're like, wow, 1125 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 5: we thinking he gonna better get sign to La Reid. 1126 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 5: HERV intercepted through Ryn Sweeney the lawyer, because he was 1127 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 5: Earth lawyer too. So Ryn Swingey put that call Earth 1128 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 5: come get him. So Earth boom. So the next week, 1129 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 5: Earth fly down because Earth come believe like this young 1130 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 5: boy wrote these songs and all he got all this. 1131 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 5: Let me see if it's real. So Earth fled down 1132 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 5: to meet all his friends, which is us, my cousin, 1133 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 5: and it's real. He's like, oh, this is what he around. 1134 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 5: Oh he looked at her a little hood. Oh he 1135 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 5: for real and ear shot that video so quick. 1136 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 6: For he moved Lord up. 1137 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 5: He took Lord up to New York to do about 1138 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 5: five or six more songs and shot that video for 1139 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 5: he put a shunt on the south side because at 1140 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,840 Speaker 5: first she wasn't on south side. It was his cousin. 1141 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 6: He put a shunt on the south side and it 1142 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 6: was on way bigger than me. 1143 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 5: Man like, for real, Man, I couldn't design none of this, 1144 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 5: the stuff, the stuff I've been messed it up. I 1145 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 5: couldn't design none of this that. I can't design it. 1146 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:57,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, a right, we get to you up here, 1147 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 1: find it. 1148 00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 5: He finally finding the key. 1149 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: Will that be one? Will there be one? 1150 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1151 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 3: M h m hm. 1152 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 1: Chasm, yes, sir, Micheur, Big Love. Yeah. H we want 1153 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 1: to know here, but we want to know chief. Top five, 1154 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 1: your top five mm hmm, top. 1155 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:55,280 Speaker 3: Five, your top five RB singer whatever, Why are the songs? 1156 00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, big Love, You've got You've seen I know you, yes, 1157 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 4: yeah right, but with Ray Charles, Ray Charles, that was great. 1158 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:40,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, brother, big Love, Yes, sir, Your top five R 1159 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 3: and B singer hmm. 1160 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 6: Okay, this is this is my own personal now. You 1161 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. 1162 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 5: The world your world, the top five most influential RB 1163 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 5: singles on me and I listened to you know, I 1164 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 5: want to just put a prerequisite. You know, we can 1165 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,800 Speaker 5: always do the Michael Jacksons and the Princess and and 1166 00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 5: and you know what I'm saying, We gonna always do them, 1167 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 5: but I'm gonna try to go off a little bit 1168 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,759 Speaker 5: off kill too for the ones that really influenced me. 1169 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,439 Speaker 5: Besides yeah, besides Michael and Prince because they touch everybody soul. 1170 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 5: That Bobby Brown, the truth, the blueprint, Yes, sir, the blueprint. 1171 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 5: People don't know a lot of the post. Barbara Brown 1172 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 5: was way different than beginning than before. Bobby He changed 1173 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 5: the game. You got to give Bobby them two dances. 1174 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,280 Speaker 6: Behind you dancing, nasty dancing and singing. That's the hunting 1175 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 6: and all of that Bobby. 1176 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 5: So when you see us, when you see Chris and 1177 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 5: you see all of them, Bobby with the blueprint for 1178 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 5: that Bobby because you know, you know, Mike was a 1179 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 5: different thing. He was out of this world. Bobby brought 1180 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 5: you to the hood. So you see r Kelly, he 1181 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 5: got some of that Bobby in it. You know what 1182 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 5: I'm saying. When you see all of them, you know 1183 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 5: they got that Bobby in them. So I'm gonna say, 1184 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:51,800 Speaker 5: Boby Brown, just for me, for you, Keith Sweat change 1185 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 5: the game. When you hear that eight a wait in 1186 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 5: them slow songs, the first one to do that thing, 1187 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,759 Speaker 5: Keith Sweat, that make the laugh for ever able that 1188 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 5: him and Teddy did change the game. 1189 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,799 Speaker 1: The sweat, the sweat man. 1190 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 5: You can'tnot keep sweat. You can't cannot keep sweat, you know, yeah, yeah, put. 1191 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 1: His hands out. He tried not keep sweating the super 1192 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 1: all the super freaking songs, but he did for Silk that. 1193 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 3: Freakment a producer, writer and owner, owner way before anybody. 1194 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 5: Even sometimes I don't think people get Key Sweat was 1195 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 5: the right way. Get Key Sweat, Star money. They don't know, 1196 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 5: they don't know, and we're gonna make sure make sure 1197 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,439 Speaker 5: they know. Many changed the game. So the way y'all 1198 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 5: hear R and B music when y'all start hanging with 1199 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 5: the super deep eight away, Okay, everybody had that. 1200 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,360 Speaker 6: That deep basing and like rap songs. That's Keith Sweat. 1201 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 1: Man, keep going, keep going. 1202 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 5: Let me see influence me. I'm gonna take it up 1203 00:52:54,200 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 5: to R. Kelly. Why not game changer for sure? Game changer, 1204 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 5: change the game to after game changing. Man, you can't 1205 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 5: take it. You know, whatever you got going, But man, 1206 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 5: you can't take away them songs. Man, you can't take 1207 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 5: away the performances. You can't take away the flavor he 1208 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 5: brought to the world. You can't take it. 1209 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 6: On the teleent side, you can't take that away. You 1210 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:15,320 Speaker 6: gotta get it to it. 1211 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 3: You can't take away the the the amount of inspiration, 1212 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,240 Speaker 3: come on, man, the amount of gifts that were birthed. 1213 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, as a result of. 1214 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 5: What he was doing, our killing man wouldn't be we 1215 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,240 Speaker 5: wouldn't room, we wouldn't be like we are because well, 1216 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 5: you know, we come from the generation of talking different 1217 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:35,800 Speaker 5: with our R and b PN, but we kind of, 1218 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,880 Speaker 5: you know, we come from after that. We could we're 1219 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:39,440 Speaker 5: gonna talk like that. 1220 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 1: We could talk about we talk. 1221 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, shut up, shut up. 1222 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 1: I don't never want to hear. 1223 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 5: I will never knew, I said, yeah, shut up, yeah, yeah, man, 1224 00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 5: the true man gotta give it to him. 1225 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, that's three. 1226 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 5: That's three, babyface. Man, come on, man, that's this baby 1227 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 5: face my last one. It's a it's a combination. But 1228 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you why. Charlie Willison, m Charlie Willison, 1229 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 5: Uncle Charlie. Let me tell y'all something. This whole generation 1230 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 5: of us that do all them runs and all that 1231 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 5: stuff we bit off. Charlie Wilson, Aaron Hall wanted to 1232 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 5: be Charlie Wilson. Arkella wanted to be Aaron Hall. Keller 1233 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 5: wanted to be Aaron Aaron Hall wanted to be Charlie 1234 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 5: Wilson the way Charlie will was. 1235 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 6: And then this, this is why I got to come up, 1236 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 6: because guess what Charlie Wilson wanted to say, like. 1237 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,880 Speaker 5: Steven Wonder the game, so the way we sing all 1238 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,920 Speaker 5: these runs and I knew and not Aaron all of 1239 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 5: that Charlie Wilson really, but he was getting from Steven Wonder, 1240 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 5: So that's why I said, but I don't think they, 1241 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 5: but but Charlie Wilson, the way he sing like man, 1242 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 5: come on, man, like for real, the way that guy 1243 00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,919 Speaker 5: from Oh My Word to this day boy. Yeah, yeah, 1244 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 5: all I wanted to hit them runs like that. 1245 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris, and most of us can't. We can't see 1246 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 1: at all for most of us. That is. That's different way, 1247 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,319 Speaker 1: different love. Yeah. Yeah, I like where you're going your 1248 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: top five R and B songs. 1249 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's like pulling my heart out. I'm gonna tell 1250 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,360 Speaker 5: you my first one. If I'm going by pure Field, 1251 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,239 Speaker 5: I gotta give a Lately by Steven Wan of that 1252 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,799 Speaker 5: that was remade by huh Josi't gonna tell you why 1253 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,759 Speaker 5: if you listen to the words and Lately, the only 1254 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 5: person that could have wrote that was Steven Wander or 1255 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,360 Speaker 5: another blind man because the lyrics he's saying far more frequently, 1256 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,719 Speaker 5: you're wearing perfume to say, no special place to go. 1257 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 5: The only way he knows she going out and all 1258 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 5: that because he's smell of perfume. He can't see what 1259 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 5: she's going. He don't know. She got on. He got 1260 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:49,759 Speaker 5: to do. 1261 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: That's the only way she's going. 1262 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 5: Man. 1263 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,839 Speaker 6: Come on, I can smell the perfume, man, ain't nobody 1264 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 6: can he on. 1265 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 3: He's not about what she's wearing. See that. 1266 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 6: I can smell your perfume. More frequently you're wearing her perfume. 1267 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,279 Speaker 6: This is really my my favorite Michael Jackson song. 1268 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 5: Is this right here? For real? Lady in my life? 1269 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 5: And then like I said, as we lay, I got 1270 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 5: to say, as we that's the first that's the first 1271 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 5: record I asked my mama to buy me with that 1272 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,800 Speaker 5: feel on it like that, So as we lay and 1273 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 5: Man for real, cry for you Jo Tosy, you better 1274 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 5: do it man. When I heard that, When I heard 1275 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:36,800 Speaker 5: that cry for you, man. 1276 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 1: I said, whoa life changing? Yes, what's going on? 1277 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 5: Man? 1278 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 6: Like I'm a crop of you. They're saying the softest 1279 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 6: thing in the world, but in the hardest way. 1280 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 5: Come on, and I gotta do this song right here, man, 1281 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 5: even though it was another song on the on the album, 1282 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 5: but this whole album, Man, change my life to that 1283 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:01,880 Speaker 5: any heartbreak? 1284 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 6: Can you stand? Can you stand the rain? 1285 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 5: And can you stand the rain? 1286 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 2: Man? 1287 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:06,160 Speaker 8: That song? 1288 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,840 Speaker 5: And they coming home I can put them between one combo. 1289 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 5: Can you stand the ring that coming Home? 1290 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 3: I don't care if you put the whole album and 1291 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 3: the whole album man Heartbreakers. 1292 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 6: Man that Jam and Lewis. Man, come on, man, who 1293 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 6: do it better than them? 1294 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 3: Man? 1295 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 5: Man? They changed the game? 1296 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 1: Man? Your R and B volt Trump? 1297 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, perfect R and B singer, your arm your 1298 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 3: your perfect, your super hero. 1299 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,680 Speaker 1: I want to know who you're gonna get the vocal from? Okay? 1300 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 3: The performance style, yeah, the styling of the artists, yeah, 1301 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 3: in the heart of the artists, the passion of the artists. 1302 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 3: And then, because you are a writer producer often at 1303 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 3: this part right here, who's going to produce and write 1304 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 3: the songs? 1305 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1306 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 3: You didn't know that was co Yeah, get tricky right there. 1307 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 3: All right, So let's start with the vocal for your 1308 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 3: vult trump. Who you get the vocal from? 1309 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 5: The vocal for my R and B volt trying. I'm 1310 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 5: gonna say Whitney and I'm gonna say Michael, because they 1311 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,440 Speaker 5: got the perfect vocal. They can sing soul and they 1312 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 5: could sing pop. They can they could they can sing anything, yeah, 1313 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 5: and make it their own. And they can take a 1314 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 5: song no matter what genre it is, and you're gonna 1315 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 5: you're gonna they generalists, you know what I mean. So 1316 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 5: that's why I like their vocal tones. That's why like 1317 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 5: Whitney Vocaltone. That's why like Michael Vocaltone, because well it's 1318 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 5: like the same thing. I like the same thing about 1319 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 5: both of them. I like that by Beyonce too, But 1320 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,160 Speaker 5: I'm just gonna say, you know what I'm saying, Beyonce 1321 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 5: got that too. 1322 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 1: Performance style. 1323 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 5: Man, I'm gonna tell you that. I got to give 1324 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 5: it to Bobby Brown again. But I'm gonna tell you 1325 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 5: why he changed my life. How nasty he was on stage. 1326 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,120 Speaker 5: That man used to dance so hard, man and go 1327 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 5: so hard on stage, get kicked out the stage and 1328 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 5: all that. I'm gonna say Bobby, But really, Bobby kind 1329 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 5: of was a He was kind of a James Brown too, 1330 00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 5: because James I was funking nasty like that too, So 1331 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 5: they kind of had that same kind of thing. 1332 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 8: I always say something about that Brown name, Yeah, James Brown, 1333 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 8: Bobby Brown Brown, and. 1334 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 6: I would put Chris to but I know Chris, he 1335 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 6: had the river of Bobby. So like I think they 1336 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 6: got Chriss. 1337 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 1: Bobby, And yeah, you know what I'm saying, so he 1338 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 1: Michael Brown, what career? 1339 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. So I'm gonna say that too. 1340 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 1: Styling of the artist, the drip, the drip. Who is 1341 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 1: gonna drip? Like? 1342 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 5: Man, I'm gonna tell you who had the ultimate drip. 1343 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 5: And I got to give it to this man because 1344 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 5: for real, he would wear things that only he could 1345 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 5: pull off. And you can say nothing about it. Prince, 1346 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 5: the thing you could that man and for real, man 1347 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 5: like he won't. He he will what he wanted to 1348 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 5: well when he wanted to wear. And you if you uncomfortable, 1349 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 5: then that you're on you. 1350 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 1: He added the motorcycle to it. Yeah, he motorcycle is 1351 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 1: really important. 1352 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:51,920 Speaker 5: Yeah he had. 1353 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, he brought all the purple. It was important. 1354 00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 8: But you know what, and the guitar and guitar because 1355 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 8: because Richard was on the piano, but standing with the guitars. 1356 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,160 Speaker 5: But I'm gonna tell you somebody was a little bit 1357 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:07,800 Speaker 5: before Prince. They kind of set it up for him. 1358 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:08,920 Speaker 5: Rick James. 1359 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, Rick James, you know what I mean, Like, you know, 1360 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 6: you know Prince got a little game from Rick. 1361 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:20,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. It helps me with the lift tars, with the 1362 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 5: faith frame, with the glitter and with that good tar. Yeah, 1363 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 5: Rick Rick, call forget about. 1364 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 1: Rick Gamey, Rick James. 1365 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 5: Yes. 1366 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 1: The passion of the artist, the heart of the artists. 1367 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 5: The passion, Oh my god, man, the passion man, you 1368 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 5: know who I got to give it to because in 1369 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,520 Speaker 5: this day and time, I know how hard it is 1370 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 5: to keep going no matter what you go through. The passion. 1371 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 5: I got to go to Chris Brown, listen to him. 1372 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,240 Speaker 6: Man, Ain't nobody, Man, Le'm gonna tell you something. 1373 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna argue that. 1374 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,400 Speaker 5: Really, when that boy came back from you know, we 1375 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 5: all you're gonna go through our things. We're gonna go 1376 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 5: through issues. You know, we're gonna you know, we're gonna 1377 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 5: make mistakes. But for him to fight back from where 1378 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,400 Speaker 5: he had a fail from and how they tried to 1379 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 5: and he had to go back to doing those mixed 1380 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,000 Speaker 5: tapes and he had to grind his way back up 1381 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 5: and figure it all out to get back. You know, 1382 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 5: I think it made him a better artist. And I'm 1383 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 5: gonna be honest with you, I kind of believe he's 1384 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,760 Speaker 5: still here right now because he learned from that how 1385 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 5: to be tough, how do certain things? Certain things? 1386 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 2: Man? 1387 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,040 Speaker 5: You seeing the dog you never gonna see in the light. 1388 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,200 Speaker 5: So when you kind of he's battle tested. So he 1389 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 5: had the things he had to figure out how to 1390 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,959 Speaker 5: keep hisself going. Really it talking about to survive without 1391 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,360 Speaker 5: a label. No matter hey man, no matter who around, 1392 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 5: no matter what you man, you. 1393 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 8: Love me, you will pull up at the record plan. 1394 01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 8: And you just saw him recreating himself. 1395 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:00,880 Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. 1396 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 1: He was in that studio. 1397 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:03,440 Speaker 5: It's not easy thing. 1398 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 8: Three months every day, every day, every night. I'm talking 1399 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 8: about the tattoo artists in there. 1400 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 1: You got everything that he needs in that studio. 1401 01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 8: And he would play them songs and I'd be like, 1402 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 8: I would just go by every other night and just 1403 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 8: it was a new batch of eighty songs. It takes 1404 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:24,320 Speaker 8: a passion, takes that when everybody is telling you it's over, 1405 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 8: it's over. 1406 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,560 Speaker 5: And we all know how hard that is in this 1407 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,080 Speaker 5: game with man, when people stop answering the calls, when 1408 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:30,680 Speaker 5: they look at. 1409 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:31,160 Speaker 6: You, it's done. 1410 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,320 Speaker 3: Step further, when they stopped answering the calls and then 1411 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 3: they calling other people to tell them not. 1412 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:36,440 Speaker 1: To answer the call. 1413 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 6: How gangs to that? 1414 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:38,760 Speaker 3: He is? 1415 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,680 Speaker 1: Come on, man, who's. 1416 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 3: Writing for this and or producing for this artist or 1417 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,400 Speaker 3: who's the writer producer, because you know we do both. 1418 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:49,919 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 1419 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 3: You might have. 1420 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 5: You know, man, the writer producer for this artist. Man, 1421 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,920 Speaker 5: its joint to joint win Babyface in l A or 1422 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 5: Jam Jam and Lewis. 1423 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,840 Speaker 1: You know well you will not men. 1424 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:07,560 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 1425 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,760 Speaker 1: It's great weight. That's a great way. 1426 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 5: Yeah man, that's a great way. Yeah yeah man. 1427 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:19,280 Speaker 1: But while you're here, we got a very very y 1428 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 1: special segment. 1429 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, give him a little bit, come on, give me 1430 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 8: just give him a little taste of what we got 1431 01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 8: coming up. 1432 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 3: Man, Chief, what is it called? I ain't saying no nigga. 1433 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 3: I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names. 1434 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names. 1435 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,720 Speaker 5: Who is weird? 1436 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:42,240 Speaker 4: What you did? 1437 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,880 Speaker 1: Don't say? I ain't saying no name. 1438 01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 5: We got so many of them here, we do. 1439 01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:00,360 Speaker 1: I know you dude. 1440 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:06,280 Speaker 8: So right now, Yeah, we're getting to Jasper. Yeah, big love, 1441 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:18,800 Speaker 8: street love, Yes, all the love. Yeah, I ain't saying 1442 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,320 Speaker 8: no names. The story can be funny, are fucked up? 1443 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,600 Speaker 8: Are funny and fucked. 1444 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:29,120 Speaker 1: We like those? Okay. The only rule to the game. 1445 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't say no name can't say I'm about 1446 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:32,080 Speaker 5: to give y'all. 1447 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:36,920 Speaker 3: Too oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, let me sit 1448 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 3: up in my chair when you're feeling and you're feeling it. 1449 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:45,960 Speaker 5: So it was early in this rapper's career, rapper from 1450 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,560 Speaker 5: around the career, he was dating a young R and 1451 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 5: B single. He was dating his young R and B 1452 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 5: singer that but this young R and B singer had 1453 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 5: just broke up with another R and B got from 1454 01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:05,040 Speaker 5: another group. So you know, you know, it be transitioning, 1455 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 5: it be weird. You know, when you transition it from one, 1456 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,800 Speaker 5: you know, the crossover can get weird. So when the 1457 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:13,520 Speaker 5: studio one night, so this young rapper he got his 1458 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:18,320 Speaker 5: pistol on it and he looked at me, and you 1459 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,080 Speaker 5: know everybody, you know, we people kind of know what's 1460 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,480 Speaker 5: going on. And he looked at me and he was like, man, 1461 01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,880 Speaker 5: you know what, man, you know what, bitch, Oh man, 1462 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:30,760 Speaker 5: this pissol I got can shoot through this wall. Imagine 1463 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:31,960 Speaker 5: what it due to an R and B. 1464 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:33,920 Speaker 1: Nigga, Oh shit. 1465 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,880 Speaker 5: That Ralpherds said, this pistol right here, man, that by 1466 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,640 Speaker 5: the pistol right here shoot through their wall. 1467 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,280 Speaker 6: Imagine what it'll do to an R and B nigga. 1468 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,320 Speaker 1: That's a threat. Ship. 1469 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,160 Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I hope this don't go no further. 1470 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:55,120 Speaker 5: He is not playing now, he wasn't playing like you 1471 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,080 Speaker 5: know what I mean, like you know, and you know 1472 01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,640 Speaker 5: everybody in close proximity, so you know, people gonna see 1473 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 5: it to ship. Yeah, that was funny. 1474 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,520 Speaker 3: Still alive, all them stuff, all them still like we 1475 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:08,560 Speaker 3: just want to make sure everybody. 1476 01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,880 Speaker 1: I still going right, right, and I know you un 1477 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:16,760 Speaker 1: comfortable though that moment. 1478 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,600 Speaker 6: Oh, I'm like, oh, it's for real. 1479 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm doing big dogs working the little nigga in 1480 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:23,720 Speaker 1: the world. 1481 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he's worth it. 1482 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:28,200 Speaker 5: You don't got to do that. 1483 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:29,400 Speaker 1: You don't got to do that. 1484 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:33,280 Speaker 5: Y'all supposed to be from Yeah, you know, yeah, you 1485 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:34,400 Speaker 5: got it now, you ain't got to do that. 1486 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,920 Speaker 1: Come on, black man, there's a man and a woman involved. 1487 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,560 Speaker 1: We are no longer man that. 1488 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:42,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I got to wear that. 1489 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,680 Speaker 6: I got one more so, I mean one at this time. 1490 01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:47,840 Speaker 6: This is one of my homies. 1491 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,400 Speaker 5: He got one of the biggest rappers in the world 1492 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,880 Speaker 5: at this time. So this time we had this career working. 1493 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,360 Speaker 5: So we're working on songs, working on songs. All of 1494 01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 5: a sudden, I see a little dog one down step. 1495 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 6: Like dog that is right there. 1496 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:06,600 Speaker 5: That ain't no man dog. He ain't kind of got 1497 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,960 Speaker 5: to have no dog like that. So the next thing 1498 01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 5: I know, I said, R and B girl walk from 1499 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,600 Speaker 5: up them steps and down. Hey, y'all's up to get 1500 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 5: the dog. But the trick was, I knew that this 1501 01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,600 Speaker 5: girl was dating the whole nother guy, and. 1502 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 1: So I'm like another rapper. 1503 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,200 Speaker 5: He was in the rap world. 1504 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,640 Speaker 6: He was in the rap world. He's in the rap world. 1505 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 5: So my partner, the rapper, look at me and started smiling, laughing, 1506 01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:31,600 Speaker 5: it's just gigging, and. 1507 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:35,240 Speaker 6: I said, oh man, this ga'lood. 1508 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,920 Speaker 5: Close blooded. It eventually came out later on, but it 1509 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:40,560 Speaker 5: was that that was one of the moments when you 1510 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,720 Speaker 5: see a dog come running down steps, you know, in 1511 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,040 Speaker 5: his mansion whever. The dog come running down to me, 1512 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:46,560 Speaker 5: like who dog is this? 1513 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,880 Speaker 1: Pistols and dogs, Oh yeah, pistols. 1514 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 6: And then and then we were like and then our 1515 01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 6: answer was soon coming down those steps, and we was like. 1516 01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we man. 1517 01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,800 Speaker 5: He look at I think we've all been there. 1518 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, y'all, y'all know, y'all I've been down. 1519 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 5: We're like, okay. 1520 01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:10,480 Speaker 3: The new debut albums do some little dogs. 1521 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,280 Speaker 6: Like I say, hey that cross over be a food 1522 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,160 Speaker 6: cross over, food transition. 1523 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:21,519 Speaker 3: It's so small, it's so it's and everybody just has 1524 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,040 Speaker 3: to like be cool like you got you, we got. 1525 01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,280 Speaker 1: We all know what we like. 1526 01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:26,840 Speaker 5: Okay. 1527 01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 1: I don't see nothing, I don't know nothing. 1528 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:34,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, I've had to stand at the next table between 1529 01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 8: the nigga I just seen her with and her man. 1530 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,520 Speaker 5: Oh that's a dog. That's a terrible. 1531 01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,320 Speaker 8: And then him showed me the text that she's texting 1532 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 8: him from the other table with her. 1533 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:54,439 Speaker 5: Man, that's a cold, cold game. That's a cold game. 1534 01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:55,400 Speaker 1: Chack R and B. 1535 01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:00,600 Speaker 6: You gotta love the. 1536 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 3: Game, thought what you better respect? You gotta respect of 1537 01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,519 Speaker 3: the jacket or get collected. 1538 01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,400 Speaker 1: Yes, the game is gonna pay. 1539 01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,880 Speaker 5: The game is gonna The game is gonna be here, man, 1540 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,360 Speaker 5: the player is gonna move around chain. 1541 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,519 Speaker 1: I don't put nothing past no man. 1542 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:18,559 Speaker 5: Man, you gotta love, you gotta take it all. 1543 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,000 Speaker 1: You're not gonna say you fool me at all? 1544 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:27,559 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1545 01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:37,240 Speaker 1: Oh man, Well brother Jess, Yes, sir, brother, big love. 1546 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:38,160 Speaker 5: Thank y'all. 1547 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,640 Speaker 1: Man, we appreciate you for kicking this off for us. 1548 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 2: Man. 1549 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:47,160 Speaker 3: You know, I think we needed your energy man, come on, welcoming, 1550 01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,360 Speaker 3: welcoming us, Come on, y'all come man, Yeah, because you 1551 01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,960 Speaker 3: really you really, you really the soil. 1552 01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, and George's man, I hear I like, man, 1553 01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,639 Speaker 5: I gotta get on that with y'all. Man, we gotta 1554 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:00,360 Speaker 5: talk talk. 1555 01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,320 Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna need some subtitles, you know, you 1556 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:05,360 Speaker 1: know something. 1557 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:09,519 Speaker 5: And I subconsciously like, let me try to make sure 1558 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 5: I'm kill. 1559 01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,960 Speaker 1: Everybody. I know they can watching like what he's saying. Again, 1560 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:17,479 Speaker 1: I need I need a. 1561 01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:24,760 Speaker 5: Translator, call it patoir. I still, I'm like, man, I'm 1562 01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:26,799 Speaker 5: not said a conscious effort. I said, Man, I'm gonna try. 1563 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,240 Speaker 3: To talk like I said, a conscious you know, he said, 1564 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,840 Speaker 3: I said a conscious effort, Yeah, saying conscious. 1565 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,040 Speaker 1: In my mind. No, no, I love it. You missed 1566 01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 1: some words to go with. I said, a conscious, I 1567 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:47,960 Speaker 1: said conscious. I said, I love it all. I love 1568 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 1: it all. Thank you pray. This is why we wanted 1569 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:51,639 Speaker 1: you hear them. 1570 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:52,160 Speaker 2: Man. 1571 01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, people and people need to you know, you are 1572 01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,599 Speaker 3: great people. Hear the music, man, people hear the music. 1573 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,320 Speaker 3: People are dancing to the music. People have you know, 1574 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,080 Speaker 3: as as you say, music stamps a moment in time, 1575 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,040 Speaker 3: and people have that to your songs, to your to 1576 01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,400 Speaker 3: your creativity, and they need to know who you are, 1577 01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:11,120 Speaker 3: who's responsible for that. 1578 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,120 Speaker 1: Man, And that's what we're here for. Man. 1579 01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,439 Speaker 3: I appreciate it, man, you know what I'm saying. Appreciated 1580 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,760 Speaker 3: your spirit. They say, that's a good brother. Spread the 1581 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,360 Speaker 3: love and in our in our movements, good people finished. 1582 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:26,240 Speaker 5: Man all the time. 1583 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:32,120 Speaker 3: So, my brother, I'm time. 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