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Speaker 2: Welcome in, Welcome in. David Kitchen here, COO of Late

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Speaker 2: Round Media, one of three. Now, because we do have

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Speaker 2: another guy, Brandan Godola, who's with us. He's not on

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Speaker 2: the show with us, but if you are a newsletter subscriber,

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Speaker 2: you saw his newsletter this morning. Yeah, well done, mister Brandon.

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Speaker 2: And I also have a CEO, the Man the myth

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Speaker 2: Legend JJ, Zach g Reeson Free. No more burdens of

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Speaker 1: They're They're the only burden in my life is Luther Burden.

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: That was good?

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Speaker 1: I gotta say one thing before we get going. Everyone.

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Speaker 1: It's David Kitchen's thirtieth birthday today. Yeah sure, thirty thirty right,

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Speaker 1: yeah yeah, happy birthday to our CEO. Very happy that

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Speaker 1: you are the CEO, and uh yeah, I hope you

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Speaker 1: have a good one. Hope the girls treat you right.

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Speaker 1: I hope And by the for the for the record,

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Speaker 1: I mean the daughter's daughter's daughter's wife. Yeah, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have like multi over here. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I hope

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Speaker 1: they treat you right. You can after this show, you

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Speaker 1: can take off the rest of the day if you want.

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Speaker 1: How's that.

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Speaker 2: I've got some work to do JJ, so I will

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Speaker 2: not be taking off. I did though, did you just

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Speaker 2: a little bit behind the scenes? Did you do your

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Speaker 2: super Bowl NFL stuff yet?

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl NFL stuff? I'm not, No, let's do that.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be awkward if we get to Radio Row

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Speaker 2: and they're like, uh, you, Kitchen, you can come in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kitchen is gonna do the lay round show from

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Speaker 1: uh this year.

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Speaker 2: That'd be like the worst. That'd be the worst ever

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Speaker 2: if it was just me and and not you. I

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Speaker 2: sometimes I worry that I, you know, my addition brand's

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Speaker 2: edition is putting too much on your plate. Have you

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Speaker 2: ever done a way too early QB rankings like this before?

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Speaker 1: No, this isn't really my wheelhouse slash the kind of

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Speaker 1: content that I always do. But I I look, I

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Speaker 1: statement caveat, Yes, this is insanely early. The research has

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Speaker 1: only just begun. Uh, this is definitely not how I

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Speaker 1: whenever I'm actually you know, producing some of those Maybe

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Speaker 1: think it's a fun exercise to go through and you know,

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Speaker 1: talk about where I wanna rank these guys, these quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: We'll do it by positions in the next four weeks.

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Speaker 1: Well technically it's five because we're gonna take a break

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Speaker 1: for the super Bowl. But the next five weeks we're

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Speaker 1: to me, this is sort of like this is our

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Speaker 2: There you go, Debt. That's what I was gonna tell everyone.

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Speaker 2: It's just that. Don't hold JJ to it. But it

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Speaker 2: is good just to think about, and it is fun.

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Speaker 2: And we've talked about this bet when you have a

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Speaker 2: JJ newsletter, we're just beefing it up this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, God, Godula had a great newsletter that went out

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Speaker 1: awesome work. We have a lot more coming also, just

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Speaker 1: so we're clear, Kitchen's not thirty. There's I think I

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Speaker 2: If they want to take it that serious, they can.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a compliment to you that you can

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Speaker 2: I got a baby face over here. Yeah, So I'm

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Speaker 2: good with it. If you think I'm I'm thirty, I'm

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Speaker 1: Actually he's actually fifty one today, guys.

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Speaker 2: And remember this is an interactive show. I'm not fifty one.

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Speaker 2: I'm forty two. Forty four to two. There you go.

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Speaker 2: Forty one was a good year. It also like you

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Speaker 2: know six seven, JJ, you know, forty one is kind

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the forty one thing came out of nowhere one

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Speaker 2: Let me out of here, all right. Uh so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Do it Today's fantasy news.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's start with the wildcard review. JJ. Let's

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Speaker 2: just start with your overall assessment of the wild card games.

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Speaker 1: I thought they were awesome from just a from a

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I don't hop onto a YouTube live stream caring

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Speaker 2: People. We said this was an interactive show, like we

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Speaker 2: No, I have any either. They desperately desperately need him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we need Nico to play for a lot of reasons.

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Speaker 2: buddies his like big honk and knee brace, put it

434
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Speaker 2: on and could barely run, but shot the lights out,

435
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 2: scored seventeen. Was so good that they put it in

436
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Speaker 2: the paper.

437
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Speaker 1: Wow, it's not the one that got the clip that

438
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 1: gets tossed around sometimes that I've.

439
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 2: No, this is a different one. But the my surgeon,

440
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 2: who was also the Titans surgeon at the time, saw

441
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 2: it in the paper and called me and was pissed

442
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 2: because it makes it worse. Well said, you could have

443
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 2: done a lot of damage. But his jokes on him

444
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 2: because I didn't, Uh, because I still can't straighten my

445
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Speaker 2: left knee out.

446
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Speaker 1: All the way. Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, like it's

447
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 1: crazy though, that that he was able to do. It's

448
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 1: like Philip Rivers did that in the playoffs the one year.

449
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah on his acl.

450
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Speaker 2: Grit grit, But what yeah, I'm gonna do with those

451
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 2: receivers though in Buffalo.

452
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be They're gonna not rotate nearly

453
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Speaker 1: as much, right they They're gonna use a lot of

454
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Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks, Khil Shakir and key On Coleman. I think

455
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: is gonna have to be a full time player, and

456
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Speaker 1: you gotta hope for the best. I mean, the one

457
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Speaker 1: thing I will say is that I think if the

458
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Speaker 1: if the Bills run like the against this Denver team,

459
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: it's smarter to run more twelve personnel anyway, and I

460
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: think they're gonna lean in on that a little bit more,

461
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Speaker 1: and that's gonna allow for the running game to get

462
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Speaker 1: going a little bit more too, probably, so I think that, yes,

463
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: it's a big deal, but in the end, we're not talking.

464
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: You know. This isn't like Nico Collins towards a cl

465
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Speaker 1: This isn't like some stud towards It's just that they

466
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 1: gave Davis has heard too toward his AC. I mean,

467
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: like the whole the whole team.

468
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: That the depth that they had really like all right, Coleman,

469
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 2: get in there.

470
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like we have no choice. Now we

471
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: might have benched you throughout the season, but now, hey, keon,

472
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: what's going on, buddy, So we'll see, you know, we'll see.

473
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Speaker 1: I do think though, that twelve personnel is the way

474
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Speaker 1: that they should be running that offense, to be Denver

475
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Speaker 1: in particular, And so the injury matters, of course because

476
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 1: you want the depth, but it might not make as

477
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Speaker 1: big of an impact as people would originally think.

478
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Speaker 2: Okay, we had some offensive coordinator firings, and I tweeted

479
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 2: this just thinking like I want a chart of all

480
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Speaker 2: the offensive coordinators that are going to be like replaced

481
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: next year because you have so many new coaches, so

482
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Speaker 2: you assume that new coaches bring in an offensive coordinator.

483
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Speaker 2: And then you also have teams that are just firing

484
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Speaker 2: their offensive coordinators. Who are some of the recent teams

485
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: to fire their offensive coordinators Eagles, Detroit, There is another one.

486
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: But as far as like the new offensive coordinators plus

487
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: the coaching changes, what's your what's your just overall take

488
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 2: on this?

489
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that.

490
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Speaker 2: Uh.

491
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Speaker 1: The one that I'm most interested to see is Mike

492
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Speaker 1: McDaniel because I think.

493
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Speaker 2: He I think he might be the Titans head coach.

494
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Speaker 1: Though he could be, but but I I do think

495
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Speaker 1: that there's if he's not a head coach, because there's

496
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Speaker 1: a lot of openings for head coaches, So I'm you

497
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Speaker 1: can't say that he won't be. Yeah. By the way,

498
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Speaker 1: I think Mike McDaniel was actually a pretty good Like

499
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Speaker 1: say what you want about Tomlin and his record and

500
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff, Like Mike McDaniel was not

501
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Speaker 1: that bad in Miami.

502
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Speaker 2: It's a hot take, but he's my number one. Oh.

503
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Speaker 1: I mean I think Mike for the Titans, I think

504
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: would be a great offensive coordinator. If you get Mike

505
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Speaker 1: McDaniel in Detroit, I mean, that'll feed families. That is

506
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: that is an insane in my opinion.

507
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Speaker 2: Uh, where was Greg Roman was the other offense?

508
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the Chargers of the other one. Yeah. And

509
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: I think the Greg Roman firing is huge for and

510
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: has huge fantasy implications. People are gonna be like, might

511
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 1: have the reaction that it's a bad thing for like

512
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: an a Marian Hampton, because Greg Roman has that power

513
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: run scheme and he loves to to, you know, have

514
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Speaker 1: this like ground game approach the way he does. Number one,

515
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: they were very pass heavy to start last year until

516
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: all the offensive line injuries happened, right, But number two,

517
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Speaker 1: I'm not really that like if a if a running

518
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: back can play, a running back can play. Of course

519
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: there's gonna be certain schemes that that are going to

520
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: help that running back. And I would assume they're going

521
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Speaker 1: to hire somebody who could fit with a mari And Hampton.

522
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Speaker 1: But Marion Hampton is not just a oh he would

523
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Speaker 1: only be able to be good in Greg Roman's offense,

524
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Speaker 1: Like he's a pretty well rounded back. So I wouldn't

525
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Speaker 1: really be concerned about that. I'm more so just interested

526
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: to see what direction they generally go because they have

527
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: such good weapons. They're not such good, but like really

528
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Speaker 1: strong weapons there and the other thing they fired their

529
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Speaker 1: their offensive line coach. This is gonna be one of

530
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Speaker 1: those situations where this is, this is how I feel,

531
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Speaker 1: similarly with Mike Tomlin. So Tomlin getting leaving and we'll

532
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: talk about that in a second, I know, but Tomlin leaving,

533
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Speaker 1: Everyone's like, oh, just watch the Steelers not have a

534
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: winning season next year. Yeah, well, the Steelers are also

535
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: gonna have a tougher schedule next year more than likely,

536
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Speaker 1: just even when when you calculate based on like win

537
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: totals and stuff, because they won the division. So anytime

538
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: you win the division, you're gonna see tougher opponents the

539
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: following year, right, and so like that's naturally going to happen.

540
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: There's naturally gonna be some regression more than likely. Same

541
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: thing with this like offensive line coach for the Chargers.

542
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: Their offensive line is gonna play so much better when

543
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: guys are healthy on that line. Two huge, huge additions

544
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: to that line will become. It will be happening you know,

545
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: next year, and so uh with with with them being

546
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: healthy and so when that happens, of course, the offensive

547
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,479
Speaker 1: line is going to be better. It's not just the

548
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: offensive line coach as why that's happening, So make sure

549
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: you're looking at the correlation and causality of these things.

550
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I think that my my favorite

551
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: pairent would be Mike McDaniel in Detroit. I've seen McDaniel

552
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: uh in Philly, but I think there's gonna be more

553
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: change that film. I'm not gonna be surprised if AJ

554
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: Brown's gone, you know this obvious and such. Just based

555
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: on vibes, I think he's gone. And so there's a

556
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: lot of change happening in Philly that I mean, Detroit

557
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: is the team that already has everything in place for

558
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: Mike mcdonield just crush and just destroy.

559
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: Two other names that got fired but the head coach

560
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: did not get fired. Bucks offensive coordinator Josh uh Gizzard yep,

561
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: and then Cliff Kingsbury with the Washington Commanders. Yeah.

562
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's I mean, that's five thought all really

563
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: good spots, right, That's that's.

564
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: Vibe in addition to all these head coach openings that

565
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 2: are coming open. So it should be fun from just

566
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 2: trying to guess what these coordinators are gonna bring in.

567
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 2: And Mike Tomlin, I'm just gonna give you the floor

568
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: right now with all his head coach openings. Yeah, you

569
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 2: can say whatever you want regarding Mike Tomlin.

570
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: Look born and raised Pittsburgh. Talked about this plenty on

571
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: this show. You know, went to countless Steeler games, had

572
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: some of my favorite best memories as a sports fan

573
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 1: because of Mike Tomlin, you know, with him leading the

574
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: charge of my of my favorite team. You know, I

575
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 1: said this in a tweet. I think it was just

576
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: time for this to all happen. You know, there can

577
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: be divorces that occur that are that are mutual, and

578
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: everyone feels like it's the right choice in the right time.

579
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: You know. I've seen the responses on both sides. I

580
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: think that one thing that I am a little bit

581
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: upset about is how just like gross, some people have

582
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: been about it, just like celebrating and cheering like crazy,

583
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: you know, and video and stuff like that without realizing that, like,

584
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: he's still a good coach that allowed you to have

585
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff happened to your favorite team.

586
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: You know, you can you can look at it that

587
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: way while also being excited about what could be possibly

588
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: coming for this Steelers franchise, because you know, I think

589
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: he's a great motivator, a great leader, you know, someone

590
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: who can get the most out of his players. But

591
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: when it comes to the combination of you know, two

592
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: things are happening in Pittsburgh. They haven't had a franchise

593
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: quarterback since Ben Roethlisberger left right, Yeah, and the tail

594
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: end of Roethlisberger's career he was a shell of himself too.

595
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's feeling a little brown zesk.

596
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they haven't had anything since Roethlisberger, and

597
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: they've tried, and they've been doing this stupid thing where

598
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: they go out and you know, I actually don't think

599
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: it's that stupid from a quarterback perspective, as like a

600
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: bridge just to see like, oh, well, Russell Wilson get

601
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: it back, or will Justin Fields get it back, or

602
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: Mitch Trubisky or Aaron Rodgers, will he be serviceable for

603
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: us to maybe get lucky and have some variants hit

604
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. The thing that annoys me more is

605
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: that they think that they can consistently go out. I

606
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: think that Joe Hayden had an impact on the way

607
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: that they've been building this team because he had success

608
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: late in his career as an older player, and they

609
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: found him. You know, they went out and they got him.

610
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: But they've been doing that at like corner for years now,

611
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: and they go out and they get these like thirty

612
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 1: plus year old corners, and you know, they go out

613
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: and they get Jalen Ramsey and Darius Slay this past

614
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: year and things just don't work that way because of

615
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: that one thing happening. I think they have this notion

616
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: that they can get these like veterans. Now, there are

617
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: some good pieces on this team that are younger that

618
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: they can build off of, especially on the defensive side

619
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: of the ball, that that are exciting. But I do

620
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: think they need to just rebuild this team and you know,

621
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Speaker 1: start from scratch and find somebody that, like I think

622
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. I think Kris Shula is going

623
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Speaker 1: to be the next head coach for the Steelers. That's

624
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: my that's my guess. And I think that he could

625
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: bring on, you know, some innovative offensive core, young offensive

626
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: coordinator you know, possibly from the Rams, and they they

627
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: build something together, uh and it's a young higher as

628
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: they've done with Chuck Nole, Bill Kauer and Mike Tomlin,

629
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Speaker 1: and they you know, maybe get a Malik Willis this

630
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: offseason or go that round to just see while also

631
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: thinking about the future and not necessarily needing to make

632
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs next year, and just realize that they need

633
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: to rebuild. Because the Steelers perpetually have this idea in

634
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: their head. Ownership has this idea in their head that

635
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: they should always be contenders. But that's just not how

636
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: it works in the NFL. I mean, you got to

637
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: at one point have some high draft picks to be

638
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: able to have a chance at that franchise quarterback. So look,

639
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 1: my feelings on Tomlin are this was time. I'm very

640
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: much in the middle of where people stand of him

641
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: being a good coach and a bad coach. I think

642
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: that the national media makes too big of a deal

643
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: out of the non losing season stuff, because it's not

644
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: that impressive when you don't win any playoff games. He

645
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: hasn't won since twenty sixteen in the playoffs. I mean,

646
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: they've been a long time.

647
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Speaker 2: I was actually thinking like, yeah, I mean, what, it's

648
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: before your elementary aged child was born, right, you know,

649
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Speaker 2: it's it's a long time.

650
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: It's a long time, especially when you have those opportunities

651
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: to be in the playoffs and none like that. They've

652
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: been to destroyed in the playoffs. Right, Tomlin is a

653
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: great leader, great motivator, can get the most out of

654
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: his players, but he's not an x's and o's guy.

655
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: And the other problem I mentioned the quarterback, the franchise

656
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: quarterback thing. He's a horrible, horrible evaluator of coordinator talent.

657
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: The coordinators that Pittsburgh has had have been so he has.

658
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: How crazy is it that you have a nineteen year

659
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: tenure with a team and you don't have a tree. No,

660
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: there's no Mike Tomlin tree at all at all. I mean,

661
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians went out and he ended up, but Bruce

662
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: Arians was established before Mike Tomlin didn't develop any coach

663
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: to go on and be a head coach anywhere. It's

664
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: crazy to think the failures that they've had Arthur Smith

665
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: that offensive coordinators been fine, but definitely not great. Matt

666
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: Canada was arguably the worst coordinator hire slash coordinator that

667
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,959
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in NFL history.

668
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: Right.

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00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: I think that is a huge, huge problem with Mike

670
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 1: Tomlin is that he didn't know how to surround himself

671
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: with the right coordinators. And we can blame Mike Tomlin

672
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: for that. And you can still play you know, I've

673
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: had a lot of responses being like, oh, he's had

674
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: no he's had no non losing season in nineteen years. Yeah,

675
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: it sucks making the playoffs every year, but yeah, and

676
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: he hasn't had a quarterback and doing that. Guys, the

677
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: head coach has say in who the what kind of

678
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: personnel they're drafting and working with. It's not like Mike Tomlin,

679
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: you know, sits in his living room on draft night

680
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: and has no say and what they're doing at any position. Right,

681
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: Like he's going to the Senior Bowl. He's going and

682
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,719
Speaker 1: he's evaluating these guys. They haven't found the answer. And

683
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: they passed on Jackson Dart last year, you know, like

684
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: quit this garbage off. He hasn't done anything at quarterback

685
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: or he had that. He's done a lot with nothing

686
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: at quarterback when they've had opportunity, they've had opportunity. Like

687
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: it's it can be partially on him too, So I

688
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: think it was just time.

689
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: Hope.

690
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: I hope he crushes it wherever he goes next. I

691
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: think he's a really good due who has gotten, like

692
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: I said, gotten a lot out of his players, and

693
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: he gave a lot to Pittsburgh and the city of

694
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is a part of me, even though I don't

695
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: live there anymore. Yeah, it's a huge part of me,

696
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: and I'm very, very grateful that a person could come

697
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: in and give the city that much.

698
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, we are going I told you I was

699
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: gonna let you just for your your late round. Ran

700
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: knows you didn't mention Kenny Pickett. You're at your Pittsburgh boy, and.

701
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: Love Kenny Pickett because the dude got my my my

702
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: school in a SEC championship.

703
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: That's right. So we just real quick, we're gonna move

704
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year to the end of the show.

705
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 2: Harrorball available. Who would you choose if you were a

706
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,479
Speaker 2: horrball Titans or like Giants or somebody else.

707
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 1: I mean easily the Giants. We said it last week

708
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: we ranked them.

709
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 2: Okay, you say easily, but easily.

710
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: I would easily take the Giants over the Titan. Yeah.

711
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: But now that you hear like hardball's evaluating, where where.

712
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: Are the Titans significantly better than the Giants?

713
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 2: Uh? Cap room?

714
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: That's where they got cap room? All right? Alright?

715
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: And no state income tax. So there you go. That's

716
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: how that's how we get them. Uh, you know, just

717
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: no state income tax, country music stars and not. You

718
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: don't have like the New York limelight we treat celebrities here.

719
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: Look. Look, I personally would rather live in Nashville and

720
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: New York City or or you know, in the New

721
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: York area for sure.

722
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: Place to live. Yeah, okay, all right, we got to

723
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: get onto the speaking of of Jackson Darts, he's he

724
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: is in the cover boy and he is he is

725
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 2: on this list, so let's get onto it.

726
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: The late round main event. I did have some data

727
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: too that that we that we skipped over their kitchen.

728
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 2: I didn't see any data.

729
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: Oh wow, did we? That is bizarre. I thought I

730
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: had some day. Okay, we'll just skip it. I had.

731
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: I had players who I'll do it next week. But

732
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: I had players who outperformed an underperformed ADP expectation most

733
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: at quarterback this past year. But you can look at

734
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: my Twitter account. I went through all of that on Twitter.

735
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: That's really weird though, that it's not I guess the

736
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Speaker 1: image might not have saved don Let's look at way

737
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: too early top ten quarterback rankings for twenty twenty six. Yes, okay,

738
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: so again, guys.

739
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Speaker 2: It's so funny to because again you said, this is

740
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: not your forte you want to be like, well, researched.

741
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: A lot can happen between January fourteen.

742
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: Look, I think that look early, you know, way too

743
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: early rankings. They're fun content. But just know that this

744
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: is just fun content. Okay, got it all right. People

745
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: have come to me over the last decade of my

746
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: life where they want, you know, very thoughtful, you know,

747
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 1: accurate analysis, and I don't how accurate this is gonna

748
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: end up being, just because.

749
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: Those people just want to know do you have their

750
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: quarterback on their dynasty or their keeper team right ranked?

751
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: They just want they want to feel good about themselves.

752
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: Number ten, I think we're gonna do a blackout thing.

753
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: You didn't do the blackout thing for these okay, but

754
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: now we got now and now everyone can see that

755
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is number nine. Yeah, number ten, rock party.

756
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: I have Brock Purty at ten. I honestly think you

757
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: could argue him up to eight, but you could argue

758
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: him also down to like twelve or thirteen. He has

759
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: back to back season this this is what's really key

760
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: about Brock in my opinion, is that the last couple

761
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: of years. He's been using his legs a lot more.

762
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: We saw that a lot in that Bears game, that shootout,

763
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, second last week of the season or whatever

764
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: it was, you know, championship week or maybe that was

765
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: Week sixteen. But uh, he's been using his legs a

766
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: lot more. He's had three point six points per game

767
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: via rushing in each of his last two at least

768
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: three point six. He's average over eighteen points per game

769
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: over his last three seasons. But I think that the

770
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: reason why we would be more bearish is because this

771
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: kittle thing. But the offensive environment's good, the weapons aren't terrible.

772
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: You know, you should feel good about attaching a quarterback

773
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: to someone in this general tree of you know McVeigh

774
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: Shanahan sort of that style, you know, the Koc kind

775
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: of style. Although I know the Koc thing didn't work

776
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: out this past year, you should feel pretty good about

777
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: asociating this player, especially when they have a backbone of

778
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: being a good fantasy asset. So brock Purty number.

779
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 2: Ten, Okay, let's move on number nine. You've got Trevor

780
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 2: Lawrence at number nine.

781
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: Well, shocker, right, Trevor Lawrence. Man, I think that he

782
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: could have I mean he could be better than this

783
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: next year. The one thing I'll say that I don't

784
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: think is getting enough. I mean, I haven't really seen it.

785
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: Talked about a lot on social he had nine rushing touchdowns. Yeah,

786
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, he's not gonna see he might

787
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: that's probably be cutting half.

788
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: Next year he'll probably have four or five if he's.

789
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: If he's I don't know if you could consider him

790
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 2: a league but he was definitely like a best ball advancer.

791
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I think he was a league winning

792
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: type player if you held out, if you were able

793
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: to hold on to him and use him, just because

794
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: of when that peak happened, right, I feel good about

795
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: the because I love Tela. Entering the season, he was

796
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: one of the highest best ball players rostered in terms of,

797
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, at the quarterback position, and most importantly in

798
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: the bold predictions at the beginning of the year, which

799
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: went over to Reddit dot com go off King, I

800
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: I had Trevor Lawrence with outscore Baker Mayfield, and the

801
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: first month of the season it was looking real rough.

802
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: But the reason I pointed out is because that was

803
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: probably the one bold prediction that I got the most

804
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: hate for because a lot of people hate whatever because

805
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: like te law was kind of like a popular, you know,

806
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: late round pick, you know, like like go to quarterback

807
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: because Liam Cohen was going to be there, et cetera,

808
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: et cetera. And I think a lot of people hate

809
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: it when analysts sort of like have similar take, like

810
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 1: I like Drake London this year, right, and it's like, oh,

811
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: another analyst who likes Drake London. But I do think

812
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: there's some validity to the fact that, like a lot

813
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: of analysts were recognizing the importance of Liam Cohen, and

814
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: we saw it really come to fruition during the second

815
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: half of the season. Trevor Lawrence during his final six

816
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: games was over twenty seven Fantasy points per game and

817
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: that standard that's minus two points per interception too. The

818
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: weapons are there. Parker Washington breakout happened, which I'm really

819
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: excited about because if you guys go you know, the

820
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 1: ZAP models changed a lot at wide receiver and running

821
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: back and it's definitely different than it was back then.

822
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: But when Parker Washington came out, the model really liked

823
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: him and he hit a positive draft capital delta. There

824
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 1: was a lot to like about his profile. Very versatile.

825
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: He was an early declare and so it's nice to

826
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: see those kind of players eventually get something and get there.

827
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: And I think Parker Washington is a really good slot

828
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: player who's sort of in like that I don't know,

829
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: Golden tateish kind of he's got that kind of vibe

830
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: to his game where he's just like a complete bruiser,

831
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: you know, Hines Ward esque kind of player.

832
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: So the weapons are there for for Jacksonville Hunters. It

833
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: was not even there at the end of the season.

834
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: You were not even talking about Travis Hunter when they

835
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: go trade for Jacoby Myers. Brian Thomas I think had

836
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: some injury issues to start and wasn't totally like he

837
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: started to vibe a little bit towards the end of

838
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: the year.

839
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Speaker 2: BDJ is like the like the least uh, I guess

840
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 2: reliable option now, which is crazy to kind of even

841
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: think of. But with all the with some of the

842
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: drops he had, they got Parker, they got Parker Washington,

843
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: Jacoby Myers in a three year deal BTJ and a

844
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: rookie contract, Travis Hunter.

845
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: And a Yeah, Breton Strange is a good tight end.

846
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean they have they have the piece of the

847
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: offensive line exceeded expectations this year. I think Tilt could

848
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: be ranked higher than than than nine. The reason why

849
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: I have him here is because I'm a little bit

850
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: worried about that rushing touchdown regression.

851
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to number eight. You might

852
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: recognize this quarterback from this past week. He made a

853
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 2: really good play. It is Caleb Williams.

854
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I have Caleb at at eight. I think

855
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: that you could flip flop these guys if you want to.

856
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: But Caleb, you know, he had he had an eight

857
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: an eighteen point seven Fantasy points per game average when

858
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: his completion percentage over expected in the regular season was

859
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: actually worse than the NFL according to Next Gen Stats,

860
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: So he had a horrible completion percentage over expected. But

861
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: he's still finished as a QB one in fantasy. The

862
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: weapons are obviously there. We'll see what happens with like

863
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: a DJ Moore type. But regardless, Colston Lovelin's coming on,

864
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: He's gonna be an elite tight end. You know you

865
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: have Romadonde was banged up, but I think I still

866
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: think he's good. And Luther Burden could be special, Like

867
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: Luther Burden could be a really really good player, so

868
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 1: the weapons are there. There's nothing weird about his four

869
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: point eight percent touchdown rate this year, so I don't

870
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be any weird wacky regression going on.

871
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: He averaged well over four hundred rushing yards per he's

872
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: He's averaged well over four hundred rushing yards per season

873
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: so far with his legs. One of my one of

874
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: the most fun stats. And I remember I had written

875
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: about this in a data dump earlier this year when

876
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: I was looking at Keaton Mitchell's twenty mile an hour

877
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: runs and how the percentage of his twenty mile hour

878
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: runs is just crazy. Caleb Williams ranked ninth in the

879
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: NFL in twenty mile an hour runs. That's not r.

880
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: Run.

881
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a scramble that he had against the Packers

882
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: this past week. If you guys go rewatch that game.

883
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: He's going down the far sideline and his verse is insane,

884
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: like he is so fast and people do not realize

885
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 1: how fast this man is. He was ninth and twenty

886
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: mile an hour runs. He had more twenty mile an

887
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: hour runs this past year than James Cook, which is crazy.

888
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: So I think that should give us some confidence that

889
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: that rushing production is here to stay. But I am

890
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: a little bit worried about him sustaining some of his

891
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: deep ball stuff, where his deep ball numbers, you know,

892
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: like he was fine on the deep ball overall, like

893
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: completion percentage wise and stuff. But he had twelve twenty

894
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: plus are yard touchdowns according to PFF, which was one

895
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: of the higher marks in the league, if not the

896
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: actually led the league. And so that number probably regresses

897
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: a little bit. But there are other places where he

898
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: can improve and get better. And I think that's a

899
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: natural thing to think in a Ben Johnson offense going

900
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: into year three. All right, so let's get to number seven,

901
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: cam Ward just kidding. Someone said cam Moore top two,

902
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: and I just highlighted the comment, you know, just yeah,

903
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: we're going Jackson Dart here again. I think the ceiling

904
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: like this, I'm not gonna be surprised that Jackson Dart

905
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: is sort of like the cover boy late round quarterback

906
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: next year, depending on where his ADP lands. I think

907
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: in Sharper drafts, you know, best ball drafts, he's probably

908
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: gonna go around QB six to nine or something like that.

909
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: His head coach shift your either way, Like let's say

910
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: they get Arthur Smith.

911
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it'll depend on who they get. Yeah,

912
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: if it's Arthur Smith, I'm not gonna feel that great.

913
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: But you know, it's more so coordinator whoever they get there.

914
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: But I think what we obviously love about Dart he

915
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: averaged seven point three points per game via rushing. He

916
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: was third in designed rush attempts design rush attempt rate,

917
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: I should say. And so he's a mobile quarterback, like

918
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: he can get a lot done with his legs. If

919
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: you look at the twenty one season since twenty eleven,

920
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: where a quarterback through two hundred plus times and had

921
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: between six and eight points per game via rushing, the

922
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,959
Speaker 1: average points per game among those quarterbacks was nineteen point nine.

923
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: So he was below that mark a little bit. I

924
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 1: think he was. I mean, I think he was below

925
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: that mark, but he was below that mark this year.

926
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: But he's a rookie, like we're we should expect a

927
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: little bit more as he progresses as a passer. Moleague neighbors.

928
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: You know, I know that his recovery hasn't gone as

929
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 1: well as expected so far, just based on the fact

930
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: like he was using a cane or something recently, and

931
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: that matters I guess I'm not a doctor, but hopefully

932
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 1: Milieue Neighbors is back at some point early next year.

933
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: And second year quarterbacks are sort of an ADP hack.

934
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: They've been really good bets. I mean this year we

935
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: had Drake May obviously as the huge bet, but you know,

936
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: Caleb Boyos was not bad versus eighty expectation this year.

937
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: So I think Jackson Dart is going to be a

938
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: favorite of mine in twenty twenty six.

939
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to number six, mister cool Joe Burrow.

940
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I mean, look, if you look at his

941
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: games where he's had twenty or more attempts over the

942
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: last three years, he's averaged nineteen point four points per game.

943
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: It's just a really safe, high floor option. I am

944
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: a little bit nervous though. Last year he had a

945
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: six point six percent touchdown rate. This past year, so

946
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: two years ago six point six percent touch on rate.

947
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: This past year also six point six percent. It's a

948
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: good offense. He's a good quarterback, so like we're gonna

949
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: be able to sustain that touchdown rate more than a

950
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: typical quarterback would. But it is a little bit high.

951
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: It is a number that generally would regress. If he

952
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: is drafted the same ADP that he was this year,

953
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna draft Joe Burrow because it's the exact

954
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I faded him this past year. He was

955
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: a player to avoid in the draft guide. And if

956
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: he has the exact same ADP, being the exact same

957
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: player without any real changes to that, there's no reason

958
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: for me to feel like we should be drafting him

959
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: at that ADP. But if he's a round eight, round

960
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: nine guy, I think it's fine. You know, I think

961
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: that we can go that route. And I say that

962
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna sit there and be like, Wow, Joe Burrow

963
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: in round eight, round nine quarterback is so deep. I mean,

964
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: I'm not even mentioning guys like Dak Prescott Matthew Stafford

965
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: on today's list. You know, these guys who are capable

966
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: of giving us these really big passing seasons. And this

967
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: is the same kind of archetype of player, because you're

968
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: not gonna get massive amounts of You're gonna get some,

969
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: but you're not gonna get massive amounts of rushing production

970
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: from Joe Burrow. Right, So you have to think about

971
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: the archetype and what we generally see with ceilings here.

972
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be so surprised. This might this might

973
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: sound hot, taky, and it's January, so I can say

974
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: whatever the heck I want to say, But I'm not

975
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 1: gonna be surprised if I have Jackson Dart ranked ahead

976
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,959
Speaker 1: of Joe Burrow next year, just because of the rushing

977
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: upside and what we know works in fantasy football.

978
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: Speaking of rushing upside, Number five Jalen Hurts, So.

979
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: I know that he burned a lot of fantasy managers.

980
00:47:58,480 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: This is gonna be really depending on who they get

981
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator.

982
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: Surely though they have learned their lesson from this past season,

983
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: I think.

984
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I think that Hurts could move

985
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: a lot on this list, and the only direction you'll

986
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: probably move is down based on you know, just general Yeah.

987
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: Tope, he's not going higher than five, but he could

988
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: go down. Yeah.

989
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's going higher than five. So

990
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: this is probably the peak for him. But look, he's

991
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: been over twenty points per game in his four other

992
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: seasons outside of this year, where he was still he

993
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: had a horrible year for all intents and purposes, like

994
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: everyone hated everything about the Philadelphia offense, he still averaged

995
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 1: eighteen points seven points per game, which is not that bad.

996
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: We got to watch what happens with AJ Brown, who

997
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 1: knows what goes on there, especially with like contract stuff.

998
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: Kevin Btulo being gone, in my opinion, is huge because

999
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: the Eagles last year twenty seventh in pass rate, twenty

1000
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: fourth in play action rate, which is crazy when you

1001
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: have a run game the way that you do, even if,

1002
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: even if play action isn't as dependent on the run

1003
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: game as everyone thinks analytically, and there's been a lot

1004
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: of studies that show that play action doesn't really matter

1005
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: about you know, having like an efficient run game doesn't

1006
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 1: really matter for play action purposes. Just run play action

1007
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: and defenders will bite. Right, So you want a team

1008
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: and an offensive coordinator who's pretty high on the list

1009
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: in play action rate because it tells you that they

1010
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: generally know what's going on. In today's NFL they were

1011
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: twenty fourth and play action rate even crazier with the

1012
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: personnel they had twenty ninth in motion. If you look

1013
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: at the freaking route charts from AJ Brown and DeVante

1014
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: Smith through this year, very few crossing routes which are

1015
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 1: cheat codes in today's game. Just a really dumb offense overall.

1016
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: Kevin Botulo I said it earlier, just like nothing against

1017
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: the dude. I have no idea who like, I've never

1018
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: met him before.

1019
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's a nice guy.

1020
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: But being an offensive coordinator in the NFL was not

1021
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: what he should have done this year. Okay, he just

1022
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: was not ready to have that job. So I don't

1023
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: feel super comfortable with hurts here. I could put them

1024
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: below a burrow a dart Hey.

1025
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: But I think it's early. It's way it's way too early.

1026
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 2: It's way too early. Yeah, yeah, we don't know, you know,

1027
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: it's early when we don't even know the guys offensive coordinator,

1028
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: just like this guy right here, Jade Daniels.

1029
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: Jade Daniels.

1030
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: Uh.

1031
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: Look, I mean this is definitely a more of like

1032
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: a prayer, you know, type of of you know, like

1033
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: a vibes slash hope type ranking. But he was injured

1034
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: all season. He still scored eighteen point six points per

1035
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: game in games outside of that weird Minnesota one where

1036
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: he was knocked out and they didn't want to you know,

1037
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: he like came back from injury too early and stuff.

1038
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: It was a weird game in general, and Minnesota's a

1039
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: good off are a good defense too, But the ceiling

1040
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: is clearly there based on his rookie season. He was

1041
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: top in the league this past year and scramble rates

1042
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: still and that is a pretty predictive way of looking

1043
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: at rushing production the following year. Now, we don't necessarily

1044
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 1: need to look at scramble right to say that Jade

1045
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: Daniels or Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen will scramble, but

1046
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 1: it is something that we at least can say more

1047
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: concretely that it will happen, and but look for that,

1048
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: look for scramble raid for like other guys like Brock

1049
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: Perdy was one last year going into this year or

1050
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: two years ago, whatever the case may be, where it

1051
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: was like a little bit higher than you expected, and

1052
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: then he did you know, he was running a little

1053
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,479
Speaker 1: bit more. But you know, you have oc question marks

1054
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: right now in Washington. I think there's a little bit

1055
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: of volatility here too, Like this is I still like

1056
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: jayde Daniels. I would still put him for obviously, but

1057
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,919
Speaker 1: I do think that this could move as well based

1058
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: on who they hire and what they do this offseason.

1059
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have I don't know. I can't remember if

1060
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: it's a Blow or Blow, but it's David Blow there

1061
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 2: is their new offensive coordinators promoted. I think he was

1062
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: a quarterback for Purdue back in the day.

1063
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, he played for like Detroit and stuff.

1064
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I remember playing him in college football dfs

1065
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 2: back to the day. But yeah, he's an up and comer.

1066
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: You hope that that he knows what he wants to do,

1067
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: which in that offense, just like whoever is the offensive

1068
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 2: coordinator for this Lamar Jackson at number three?

1069
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is like we can go through

1070
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: this pretty quickly because we know Lamar Jackson's ceiling is

1071
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 1: new coaching staff could be a plus. He hasn't finished

1072
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: below nineteen point seven points per game prior to this year,

1073
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: which is obviously strong. And then you know, you just

1074
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: have to hope that this year was more so due

1075
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: to injury than actual talent regression. And I like, it

1076
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: just was a weird year for Lamar given injuries and

1077
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: stuff that I don't want to just bury the dude.

1078
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: Based on that if we can get.

1079
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: A didn't bury him, you put him top three?

1080
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.

1081
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: It was the most frustrating person in fantasy football last year.

1082
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: But my point is, like, if you you could like

1083
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: the ceiling is cute, Like, you don't have many quarterbacks

1084
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: in fantasy where the ceiling is actually pairing up because

1085
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: spoiler alert, Josh Allen is the QB one on this list,

1086
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: but there are very few quarterbacks in fantasy football that

1087
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: you can feel has the exact same kind of ceiling

1088
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,919
Speaker 1: as Josh Allen. Lamar Jackson's one of the very few.

1089
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: So he's got to be a top five quarterback from

1090
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Speaker 1: a ranking perspective.

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00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 2: All right, er two and not going to surprise anybody.

1092
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: Drake may Cover boy and one of your guys that

1093
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: you were high on earlier this year. Yeah, before the season,

1094
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 2: I guess as you said.

1095
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love me some Drake man Man, not only

1096
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: because he helped my career this year, but also he's

1097
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: from the area that I live, which is cool, you know,

1098
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: is his brother coaches the high school basketball team of

1099
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: the high school that my kids will go to. So

1100
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 1: but yeah, there's gonna be a little bit of regression,

1101
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: probably with a six point three percent touchdown rate, but

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00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: he trailed only Jayden Daniels and Justin Fields, who probably

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00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't even qualify and scramble rate. He scrambled more than

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00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen this past year, which again really nice and

1105
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: predictive for future rushing production. He was best in the

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00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: NFL and completion percentage over expected and that was within

1107
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: a like probably I don't know we call that pass

1108
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: catching group like average probably in New England, and he

1109
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: had the best CPOE in the entire league. Now, I

1110
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: haven't studied completion percentage over expected enough to to know

1111
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: the true stickiness year over year, so maybe there is

1112
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: going to be some regression even there happening. Because when

1113
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: I approach certain metrics, my general way of my general

1114
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: outlook and looking at them is this, this metric is

1115
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 1: going to regress. You can't just assume that it sticks

1116
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: year over year. So that's why, like Calb, it's interesting

1117
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: because he was so low, like he could just improve

1118
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he'd be probably a

1119
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: better fantasy asset. But generally speaking, this just shows that

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00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: Drake may balled d F out this year. Like he

1121
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: was awesome, right, He's just a safe bet overall. I

1122
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: think he's just really really good. He's now part of

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00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: that elite group. He's still young, incredibly young, So to me,

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00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,919
Speaker 1: Drake May needs to be in the top two or three.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and number one you mentioned it either good coaches

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00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: or this guy. It's Josh Allen.

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00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. There's just no one like him in fantasy football.

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00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: One of the crazy things. And I talked about this

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00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: in the draft guide this past year about some of

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00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: the early round quarterbacks, specifically Josh Allen is. I think

1131
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: there's an argument to be made, especially in like a

1132
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: ten team league, that he's just underdrafted every year, that

1133
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 1: the late round quarterback, the guy who wrote the book

1134
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: on strategy, I'm saying that Josh Allen just Josh Allen,

1135
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: no one else. Josh Allen is consistently undervalued in fantasy leagues.

1136
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: He has outpaced his ADP expectation by two points per

1137
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: game or more. Yeah, in each of his last seven seasons.

1138
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: Because we're not drafting him. He should probably be a

1139
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: round two pick, but he's usually a round three pick.

1140
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 2: Now.

1141
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: I think in best ball and stuff it's different because

1142
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: of team construction and how we're playing it. But in

1143
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: a regular season long league, in a ten team league,

1144
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: especially with only two running backs and two wide receivers

1145
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: in the tight end where quarterback is going to be

1146
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: more meaningful to that lineup. Josh Allen should be a

1147
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: second round pick at the very least, and so so

1148
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen's the clear QB one. He's been

1149
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: first or second in fantasy points per game in each

1150
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: of the last six seasons. That is insane. It's insanity,

1151
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy.

1152
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 2: So and even more so in the past few years

1153
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 2: he hasn't really had a wide receiver one.

1154
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, and look someone so someone in chat

1155
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: saying getting burned on early quarterback was not fun this year,

1156
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: totally get it. There are I write about this, I

1157
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: talk about this every single year. There are areas and

1158
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: times where you go early quarterback, and then there are

1159
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: areas and times where you don't. Most of the time,

1160
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: you're probably not right. I do think that Josh Allen

1161
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: continues to be sort of an exception to the rule.

1162
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: But we all know in playoffs like like I had

1163
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: Josh Allen as a cell remember, like like earlier this

1164
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 1: year because the playoffs schedule was rough, and there are

1165
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: instances where where you know, like the playoffs could just

1166
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: not look good for that player, and you're just kind

1167
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 1: of out of luck and he puts up six points.

1168
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: But that could be the case for any player in fantasy,

1169
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: you know. But yeah, early around quarterbacks, Jane Daniels gets hurt,

1170
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, underperforms, Lamar Jackson underperforms. Yeah, and those were

1171
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: the and Joe Burrow Burrow got hurt. So like those

1172
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: were the five guys, and Josh Allen was the only

1173
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: one who was like okay, but it's been that like

1174
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: Josh Allen has not seen the variance and fluctuations that

1175
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: the other guys have, which is why I had him

1176
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: at QB one, you know entering the season. I'm gonna

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00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: have him at QB one again this year.

1178
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, there's your top your way too early,

1179
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: top ten. You already mentioned JJ. Just the quarterback class

1180
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 2: is deep. I mean, obviously Mahomes got hurt late in

1181
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 2: the season, but Yahmes, no Prescott, no Nicks, no Stafford,

1182
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 2: no Baker.

1183
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, no Jared Goff. I mean, how could

1184
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: we have Jared Goff in.

1185
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 2: The top go do Ja Kobe Brissette.

1186
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just I'm just hoping that there's not Jared Goff,

1187
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, the the Jared Goff contingent like we had

1188
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: last year coming after me for having him ranked at

1189
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: like QB seventeen.

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00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 2: I don't think there will be. I don't think that

1191
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 2: that crowd has probably quieted down. All right, let's wrap

1192
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 2: this up, and I figure we could wrap it up

1193
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: with a little bit of picking your brain. Who the

1194
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 2: Rookie of the year is going to be? The nominees

1195
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 2: JJ one person was egregiously left off, even though he

1196
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 2: set the rookie passing record for the organization and never

1197
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 2: missed a start, never missed.

1198
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: Who is cam mood battling with uh Joe Levis, will Levis,

1199
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: will Levis and Jake Locker oh Man tough to break

1200
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: that record?

1201
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: Uh, you might have heard of him, Steve McNair, Bence Young.

1202
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was different. That's that's all.

1203
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 2: There's still the organization, all right, anyways, we don't all right,

1204
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: all right, Tyler Shuck. By the way, someone in the

1205
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: chad said David Blow or blow was David bluckuh because

1206
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 2: of the Tyler Shuck pronunciation. Travon Henderson, Jackson, Dart Ashton,

1207
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 2: gent T, Ttero McMillan, and Carson Schwessinger.

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00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: I think that the Rookie of the Year should be

1209
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be I think it's gonna

1210
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: be Tterro McMillan.

1211
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think it should be.

1212
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: People are gonna think I'm gona say Tyler Shuck. I

1213
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: think it should be Jackson Dart. I was gonna say

1214
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart too. Yeah, he just didn't start that. He

1215
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: gain worked with what he worked with, neighbors going down,

1216
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: you know, coming back from like coaching changes, coming back

1217
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: from concussion and such. I thought Jackson was the most impressive.

1218
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: Like in a year where we didn't have a running

1219
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: back or wide receiver tight end really stand out right

1220
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: to me, you got to then just default a quarterback.

1221
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: And who the most impressive quarterback was to me was

1222
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart.

1223
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he came in there and and did I

1224
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 2: feel like from a fan standpoint, he was like, yeah,

1225
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 2: that's what we want. Rushed side.

1226
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Tyler Shuck was was impressive.

1227
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 2: Okay, towards the end he gave him, but nothing.

1228
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: I honestly, I think Kelen Moore is a very underrated coach.

1229
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I would agree with that, given given what.

1230
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: We saw in Philadelphia and then you know him going

1231
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: to New Orleans and him rallying that team, and even

1232
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: Spencer Ratler wasn't horrific, and everyone's like, why are you

1233
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: benching Spencer Ratler for this guy? And then Tyler Shuck

1234
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: ended up being kind of legit towards the end of

1235
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: the year.

1236
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get out of here. JJ. Just as a reminder,

1237
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 2: go follow the late round. Obviously the social accounts, but

1238
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 2: the newsletter. Sign up for the newsletter. That's that's the

1239
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: big ask that we have for you, because we've got

1240
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 2: some good stuff going on there, and we be doing

1241
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 2: more stuff, more stuff each and every week. JJ.

1242
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, what, I'm really excited. So what I've been working

1243
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: on the last week. I've been in my hole and

1244
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: in Godula and you're Dave Gettlelman the Dave Gettlelman meme

1245
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: of typing on the computer. But I've been in my

1246
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: hole and I'll randomly just send stuff to kitchen and

1247
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: Godula of like what's going on with the the ZAP

1248
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: model stuff. But there's been a lot of cool changes

1249
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: with the wide receiver and running back models. Not changes

1250
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: in the way of like you know, completely altering the

1251
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: metrics that are going in, but the way that they're

1252
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: being weighed. And so, for instance, just to give you

1253
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: guys a little teaser, like for the wide receiver model,

1254
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 1: there's a metric that I added that gets more signal

1255
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: for late round wide receivers and not early round wide receivers,

1256
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: and so it kind of I'm working more on on

1257
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,959
Speaker 1: weighing some of these metrics rather than not that things

1258
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: were linear in nature with the model before, but now

1259
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: there's there's specific ways that I've worked on it to

1260
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: make sure that I'm giving proper weight depending on the

1261
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: area of the draft that we're in, and so it's

1262
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: really interesting stuff in my opinion. I mean, it's pretty

1263
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: nerdy for most people, but I think really dig it.

1264
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: There's also as a result of all that I'm gonna

1265
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: be changing the way that I'm sort of displaying zapp

1266
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: scores and thinking about Zapp scores, so that'll all be

1267
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: in the guide and such. But lots of prospect work starting.

1268
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: I have not dug into the actual class yet. I've

1269
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: just been making sure the models are good with the

1270
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: testing that I do every year, and then once I'm

1271
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: hoping to be done with a lot of that this week,

1272
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: and then once that's over I can start digging into

1273
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: some of the prospects and stuff. But next week, next Tuesday,

1274
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: the flagship shows back, so you get the regular Late

1275
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: Round podcast schedule back on Tuesday next week, so there

1276
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: won't just be this one show in the feed every week.

1277
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 2: You get that show, and again we'll be doing more

1278
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 2: and more stuff from a free standpoint and behind the

1279
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 2: pay well, lots of good stuff JJ could duel in

1280
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 2: myself last week had our little two day planning session,

1281
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 2: so it's gonna be a fun twenty twenty six and

1282
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 2: we thank you for being along for the ride. And

1283
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 2: with that being said, JJ, let's get out of here,

1284
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 2: so on behalf of JJ I'm Kitchen. We'll see you

1285
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 2: next time here on the Late Round Fantasy Football show piece.

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Speaker 1: A right