1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: This is the other side of Kirkin Franklin Prince, this 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: is the Renking. In twenty four, All My Life, Grinding. 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 2: All my Life, Sacrifights, hustle peg Price Want, Slice Got 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: the brother Geist. 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Swap all my Life, Poppy Grinding all my Life. Look 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: all my Life, the Grinning, All my. 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: Life, sacri Fights, hustle peg price one, Slice Got the 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: Bronc Geist. Swap all my Life, Poppy Grinding All my Life. 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 3: Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Shay Shay. I 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 3: am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriet of 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: Club Sha Shak. The guy that's stopping buying from conversation 12 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 3: and to drink Today, Ladies and gentlemen, you're gonna love him. 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 3: Some call him the greatest, the greatest, one of the 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 3: greatest comedians dead or alive, one of the America's greatest entertainers, 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: one of the funniest men on the planet. World renowned, multitality, 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: a comedy legend. He's touring. He's the top touring comedian, 17 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: selling out arenas. He's a hilarious storyteller, Emmy Award winning actor, voice, actor, rapper, writer, producer, director, 18 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: icon genius, a national treasure, philanthropists, humanitarians, social activist, a father, 19 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 3: one of the great funny men of our generation and 20 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 3: any generation. 21 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 4: Miss kat Williams, thank. 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: You, sir. You are you are, You are magnificent at intros, 23 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: and you did not skimp on mine. I appreciate it. 24 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 4: Appreciate that. 25 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: You know, anytime you come to Club Shayshay, we have 26 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: to toast. 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 4: Yes, bro, you've been doing it. 28 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: I mean you told you one of the top tour 29 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 3: you're one of the top tour comedians of all time. 30 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: You already got started before we started taping. 31 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 4: I did appreciate that. Tell people at home, I thought. 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: They was lying. And yeah, this particular alcohol is stronger 33 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: than you think it would be, probably by about two 34 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: and unbelievably smoother and milder by the same maybe thirty 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: percent then you could possibly expect. And unlike kanyacs the 36 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: world over, this one doesn't taste like wood at the end, 37 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: and it doesn't taste like it's got artificial colors, and 38 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't taste like it's got artificial flavors. Uh, it's 39 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: a it's a fine product. 40 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: He's a connosour. You can tell he's a connoisance. He's 41 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: a Kangnac connoisseur. He understands the method that goes into 42 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 3: making Kanyac right. 43 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: Well. As a comedian, you get free drinks at the club, 44 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: so all comedians either turn out to be connoisseurs like 45 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: myself or straight up and down alcoholics like sixty percent 46 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: of Hollywood. 47 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 4: Well, thanks, thanks for stopping by the club. 48 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: I understand that you're very, very busy, and for you 49 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: to take time out of your busy schedule and stop 50 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: in today, we really really appreciate here at Club Shayshay. 51 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 4: Thanks thanks for stopping back. 52 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: And I needed you to know why I came by. 53 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 4: I need you to tell us why people know. 54 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: I don't go everywhere. I'm not interested in talking to 55 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: people unless it's like a Larry King or somebody of 56 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: an amazing ilk that I would actually want to go 57 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: talk to in real life. Okay, I don't do it 58 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: so I can sell product, and then I got things 59 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: to sell, so let me come talk. You have a 60 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: great product here, and as a fan base, we love 61 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: the attention that you spend on the guest. We love 62 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: how much work you've done, how well you know them, 63 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: how prepared you are, the same things that we liked 64 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,839 Speaker 1: about you in football. You brought that on over to here, 65 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: and that's why it resonates. And the reason I had 66 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: to come is because you've made a safe place for 67 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: the truth to be told. You know what I mean. 68 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: And I have watched all of these low brow comedians 69 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: come here and disrespect you in your face and tell 70 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: you straight up lies. I'm talking about things that have 71 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: never been heard in all of black Hollywood. They feel 72 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: comfortable sitting here lying to you about it. 73 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 4: You gonna say the record straight? 74 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? You let Ricky Smiley sit here 75 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: and you said out that mouth you stole Friday after next, 76 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: the one I was in. I wish all all of 77 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: America fumbled a bit when that happened. And then he 78 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: said some stuff that we hadn't heard in one hundred 79 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: years in Hollywood. You ain't say nothing. This man told 80 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: you he had Kat Williams role. He was gonna be 81 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: money Mike, and Kat Williams was gonna be was gonna 82 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: mean the Santa Claus. Now, let's three quick points. You 83 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: mean in Hollywood they cast a five fot five black 84 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: Santa Claus that weigh one hundred and forty five pounds. 85 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: That's your story. Your story is the Ricky Smile that 86 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: couldn't even do curse words because he had a Christian 87 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: fan base, he was gonna play the pimp. Why you 88 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: didn't ask him? Why has he played a woman in 89 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,559 Speaker 1: more movies than he's played a man? Well, I didn't 90 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: know he He shouldn't be able. You wouldn't let an athlete 91 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: that been on steroids talk about one of the greats 92 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: Ricky Smiley can't act because Ricky Smiley can't act. He 93 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: told you the story about when the movie came out. 94 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: Where did he say he watched it at home? He 95 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: wasn't even not the premiere. You telling this man? You 96 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: stole that ah so he could get his name in 97 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: the same sentence with a great one. It is sad. 98 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: He was just that bitter when we were shooting it. 99 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: He told everybody it should have been my role, everybody 100 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: on the scene. Why do you think no cast member 101 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: has ever said anything. 102 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 4: He couldn't have played that role like you. 103 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: I thought he was sure no one. Why no, he 104 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: was with KD. He beat up Harry Crews. Why nobody 105 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: know this story? You're talking about Hollywood? They switched off 106 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: rolls you take this and he what Ricky Smiley knows this, 107 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: and I don't know why he would lose a child 108 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: and come on the air start lying. That's why people 109 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: believe in rituals right there is because well why would 110 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: he lie? I don't know why liars lie. But I 111 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: can tell you this. We auditioned in Los Angeles. Yes, 112 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: I was audition number two hundred and one. Two hundred 113 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: black comedians auditioned for the role of money Mike. With me, 114 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: you're saying all two hundred and one of us was 115 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: auditioning and you had already had the role and had 116 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: already shot the role in four days. The truth of 117 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: the matter is the Money Mike in the original script 118 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: got raped in the bathroom. And that's what Ricky Smiley 119 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: was okay with. Kat Williams had to take the risk 120 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: in front of the studios and the cast and the 121 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: powers that be in his very first movie, as say, respectfully, humbly, guys, 122 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: if we're talking about anything else, I have no credibility 123 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: and I have no pull. But we're talking about comedy 124 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: where I have all the credibility and all the pool. 125 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: The problem with Friday After Next is we're trying to 126 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: make a classic comedy, and this comedy involves a rape, 127 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: and rape is never funny no matter who it happens 128 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: to or what the circumstances are. If you would allow 129 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: me to allow us to do this movie without a 130 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: black man getting raped in it, I promise you that 131 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: it will be twice as funny as it would be 132 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: with him getting raped. So, considering that's the real story, 133 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: why would you bring up that story? Thirty five members 134 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: of the cast and crew have never brought up that 135 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: Ricky Smiley was gonna pla money mike. No one ever 136 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: saw him be put on a Santa Claus suit. We 137 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: got a wardrobe department. They made a Santa Claus suit 138 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: for me. Why that wasn't in the bloopers? And here's 139 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: the other thing. Everything that money Mike said. Kat Williams wrote, 140 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: So what Ricky Smiley say on his you can't say 141 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: my lines? I wrote him. That's how I already ready 142 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: know that I'm gonna be funnier than you. What he 143 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: told everybody was, Kat Williams, don't nobody know who he is. 144 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm on the radio. I'm with Steven said, everybody know me. 145 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: That's what he told everybody. That would listen to on 146 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: this set. That's the truth of the matter. He was 147 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: so egregious, not now then, he was so egregious that 148 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: in Hollywood has never heard this in one hundred years. 149 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: He was so egregious. I put in my contract that 150 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: I won't work with Ricky Smiley again unless he's in 151 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: a dress. Now, what was Ricky Smiley's next movie? Was 152 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: it First Sunday? Did he wear addressing it? You bet? 153 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,479 Speaker 1: He did it? In my contract? 154 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 4: Why would you put that in your witness in your contract? 155 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: Cat, That's where he's the unbelievable actor. Him and Tyler 156 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: Plarry can't play a man. Let's say their life. They 157 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: played good women. And I believe that the best actor 158 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: should be in the best role. 159 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: So that's why because when we released that clip and 160 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 3: he said that, you responded because he said he was 161 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 3: supposed to play money Mike and you were supposed to play. 162 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: Santa Claus in our right lie. So that he knows 163 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: is a lie. 164 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 4: So why would he say it? 165 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: Because he's a liar. Nobody knows why liars lie. And 166 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: that's why I had to come on the program. Cedric 167 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: did the same thing. Sedric told you when you asked him, 168 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: did you steal Cat Williams joke? He said it don't 169 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: line up? Howard, don't line up? That I did it 170 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: on TV in twenty eighteen, you came to see me 171 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: at the Comedy Store do it in twenty nineteen, and 172 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: then did it on the Kings of Comedy, Like what 173 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: doesn't line up? This is a televised joke that Mark 174 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: Curry helped me punch up and get to the level 175 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: that it was the same Steve that went to go 176 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: watch Mark Curry do his whole sitcom and then stole 177 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: everything Mark Curry had. Now Steve got a sitcom where 178 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: he the principal and he wear a suit and then 179 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: he gets this high top fade, making all black men 180 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: think he got the best line up in the business, 181 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: and it's a man unit. Then you asked it, why 182 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: are you not a movie star? 183 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 5: I didn't want to be a movie star, just the 184 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 5: same Negro that hated on Bernie with this same thing. 185 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 5: I didn't want to be a movie No, you couldn't 186 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 5: be a movie star. There are thirty thousand new scripts 187 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 5: in Hollywood every year. Not one of them asked for 188 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 5: a country bumpkin black dude that can't talk good olba 189 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 5: kaba and look. 190 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: Like mister potato head. There ain't none you would have 191 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: to have range. I played a lot of characters, sixty 192 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: movie roles. I'm not playing Kat william in there. 193 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know care. We might let 194 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 4: you drink anymore the way you you, I mean, we 195 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: ain't even got. 196 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: Im not fueled by alcohol. I've had a sip less 197 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: than you. The truth don't need motivation. I'm just saying 198 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: I can't let these dudes lie. Cedric sitting here telling 199 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: you why he ain't a movie star, He on here 200 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: looked like a wal risk. You didn't say nothing. He 201 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: can't even get his arms off his stomach, sitting on 202 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: why I'm not a movie's what? 203 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 4: It's a situation. 204 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: We never wrote anything. Remember when Sedric the Entertainer starts, 205 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: he's supposed to be singing, dancing and telling jokes. That's 206 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: why he's called the entertainer. We found out he can't sing, 207 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: can't dance, and doesn't write jobbles. He did four comedy specials. 208 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: They're so bad, Shanning they're not available on Netflix or 209 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: to B Can I say that again for the audience. 210 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: They're so bad that they're not available on Netflix or 211 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: to be. 212 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 4: You don't think say has a good a good comedian. 213 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: The world doesn't think that, Sir, I have twelve comedy specials. 214 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: He has four specials that are not available on Netflix 215 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: or TV. 216 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 4: It seems to me, Kat that you had a lot 217 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 4: to get off your chest. 218 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: No, no, you wanted to say the record school winners 219 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: are not allowed to allow losers to rewrite history. I 220 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: don't say any these things if my name is not 221 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: breached by these people on your platform that if you 222 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: give them a liar a platform to lie, then I'm 223 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: not being messy by saying hold on that never happened. 224 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: It's untrue, and there are hundreds of witnesses for each 225 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: thing I'm saying. 226 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: So let me ask you this, what are your relationship 227 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: with Steve Harvey, Ricky Smiley and said you did entertaina 228 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 3: as you sit here currently. 229 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: They for thirty years. They're a group. These aren't three 230 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: random guys. The way that Ricky's Smiley kept appearing at 231 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: all of my auditions is because of Steven saying he 232 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: would tell anybody that listen, they got a gang on 233 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: that side. They know what it is. They know who 234 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: the gang is. Why Earthquake not in movies because he's illiterate. 235 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: He can't read, and they found that out when they 236 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: gave him a show and put the cards in front 237 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: of him. Like, all of these dudes are co entwined 238 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: and they share secrets. And this is the age of truth, 239 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: and the truth doesn't need to be scared of the 240 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: fact that people tell lies. Cats on drugs? Where are 241 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: the stories? Why is there no story of anybody who 242 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: ever sold a drug to me, did a drug with me, 243 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: was around me when I was inebriated. I got five daughters, 244 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: I got five sons. Why would we tell these ridiculous stories? 245 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: Because this competition, you feel like, well, why comedy guys 246 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: can't just get along? Why didn't you get along with 247 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: the other ten you were competing against if you're a 248 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: Denver Bronco or why you don't get along with the cowboys? 249 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: Something wrong with you? 250 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 6: But I don't disagree. I don't know the cowboys. That's 251 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 6: what comedian do you? Did you play against the team? Yes, 252 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 6: I've taken forty six comedians with me on the road. 253 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 6: Forty six. Okay, I'm not the comedian. 254 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: You can give that to I only put on comedians 255 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: that are funnier than me. Anybody that ever told you 256 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: differently was a fat Phaison liar. There's nobody like me 257 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: in the business. Faison said that getting a Netflix special 258 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: is easy. I have twelve specials. Guess how many Faison 259 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: got zero? Why is he allowed to have conversations about 260 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: real stand up people. We do not let people who 261 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: are on the juice discuss real athletes. That's all. As 262 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: a journalist, that's all. That's all I'm saying. I don't 263 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: have harbor any resentment to any of these entities because 264 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: I can't be jealous. I've never seen them have anything 265 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: that I ever wanted. If you sign up for their program, 266 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: you get a light skinned, weird face wife that never 267 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: do an interview. Listen in twenty years, won't do an interview. 268 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: Nobody's ever talked to her, and she's never been interviewed anywhere. 269 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: And now understand, I'm not talking about one person. When 270 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: I just told you applies to seven people. How they 271 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: all end up with that, that's part of what you get. 272 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: I came in this business saying I was gonna expose 273 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: when I talked about Michael Jackson. When I talked about 274 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: R Kelly. They canceled me for these things, because why 275 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: would you talk about another black dude. Race is not 276 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: where the line is drawn. It's God's side and the 277 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: other side, and we don't care nothing about the other side, 278 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: period period. All of these big deviance is all catching 279 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: hell in twenty twenty four. It's up for all of them. 280 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: It don't matter if you Diddy or whoever you is, TGJS, 281 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: any of them. Every all lies will be exposed, that's all. 282 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: And anyone who takes that the wrong way know why 283 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: they take it the wrong way. The truth is the life, and. 284 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 4: They have no more of these Amen. 285 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 7: Amen, kind of getting on there right that I. 286 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: Don't really kind of know where to got me one 287 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: more time? 288 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: Right? 289 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 4: Were good? 290 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: Now? Because the people want to know why would he 291 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: get black balls? Yeah? Because because because in thirty years 292 00:16:54,960 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: I've done nothing but collect information, knowledge and your secrets. 293 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: So if you and a man was in a corner 294 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: doing something you wasn't supposed to be doing, you tell it. No, 295 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: somebody come to tell me, Okay, I gather that I 296 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: value that I'll pay for that. Come tell me I 297 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: know so many things I shouldn't know. And they all 298 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: know it. They all know it. Why because you don't 299 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: make me the villain, not the guy that raises black children. 300 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: And they never done a hard drug in his life, 301 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: and don't have no stories of doing nobody dirty, and 302 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: they'll just go out in their lie. The industry doesn't 303 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: mess with Cat because he didn't show up for the studio. 304 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: No studios have ever said that. Look at my IMDb. 305 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: It will show you that no studio has ever lost 306 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: money with me on the script. How That's why I'm saying. 307 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: That's why I can't let Ricky Smiley say he was 308 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: supposed to play Money Mike because I wrote the words 309 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: for Money Mike. I designed the hair for Money Mike. 310 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: I collaborated with the wardrobe department and made out it's 311 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: to make sure that no one in America would be 312 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: wearing what Money Mike was wearing. I told him to 313 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: go get the prowler. I then told him to paint 314 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: it purple. I told him, don't have an actor at 315 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: playing a pimp. We could get an actual pimp, Archbishop 316 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: Magic don Juan to play like. I did far too 317 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: much work for somebody to come years later and try 318 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: to tag along just for their own self angrandizement. 319 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 3: Why didn't Q set the Reconstrate? Terry Creuse could have 320 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: set the record. Strate, Mike Efs could have set the record. 321 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 3: Strate Why none of them set the recordstration? 322 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: That's what you were supposed to ask him when he 323 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: told you those lies, that that one's a right. But 324 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: he's telling you something no one's ever heard of. Nobody 325 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: has ever heard. Oh, Matt ben Affleck and Matt Damon 326 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: was in a movie and somebody said, y'all should switch rolls, 327 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: like this is a business. 328 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: But that's the thing can normally, when people will give 329 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 3: you information, I'm thinking I'm hearing it for the first time, 330 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: and they're giving information no one else knows or I've 331 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 3: ever heard. 332 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 4: So I've taken him at face value. 333 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: These are a lot. This is like Steve Harvey telling 334 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: people he used to be homeless. That's my story, that's 335 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: not his story. Steve Harvey wasn't never homeless. When Mark 336 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: Curry was touring with him twenty five years ago. He 337 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: was making three thousand dollars a show in cash and 338 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: doing five shows a week. They just tell the stories. 339 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: Thanks to my wife, I'm where I am. You said 340 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: that about the first wife you forget that you told 341 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 1: us it was her, then you went and married somebody 342 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: else that think like a man, like, what are you 343 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: talking about? They they think they can rewrite history. That guy. 344 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: Tori did a beautiful special about the Comedy Store in 345 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: Fat Tuesday where he said that Steve and Cedric and 346 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Hart and Tiffany had hish came through there and 347 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: made all lies. Steve and Cedric never performed at the 348 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: Comedy Store at all. Tiffany was only seen at the 349 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: Lab Factory in fifteen years in Hollywood. No one in 350 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: Hollywood has a memory of going to a sold out 351 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: Kevin Hart show there being a line for him ever 352 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: getting a standing ovation at any comedy club. He already 353 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: had his deals when he got here. Have we heard 354 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: of a comedian that came to LA and in his 355 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: first year in LA he had his own sitcom on 356 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: network Television and had his own movie called Soul Plane 357 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: that he was leading. No, we've never heard of that 358 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: before that person or since that person. What do you 359 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: think a plant is? Maybe people don't understand the definitions 360 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: of these words. He just did his documentary with Chris 361 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: Rock where he shows you that his whole upbringing in 362 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: comedy was on the East Coast, So how simultaneously was 363 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: he here in Los Angeles doing the same thing. It 364 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: didn't happen. It didn't happen. And I hate to seem 365 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: like a petty individual for picking apart lies, but Jesse Smaw, 366 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: they gonna keep lying until you say, we don't believe you, 367 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: like it's important in the checks and balances of the 368 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: universe that liars not get to make complete narratives for themselves. 369 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 4: Are you not afraid about being blackballed? 370 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: Again? 371 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 4: These are some power people? 372 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: What do you mean again? These people are not powerful. 373 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: Satan can't create anything that includes blessings for his people. 374 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: That's why, you know what the number one job of 375 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: somebody that saw their soul in Hollywood is, it's to 376 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: act like it didn't happen. They all do the same job. 377 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: Why do you think Gary Owen can't cross over? And 378 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 1: he already white and been in comedy for twenty five years. 379 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: If what I say ain't the case, it's a cabal, 380 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: it's a consortium. They rock with who they rock with, 381 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: and they don't with who they don't. But I'm not 382 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: scared of being the competition anymore. Than you were when 383 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: you lined up across from a superior team. Yeah, on paper, 384 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: they're a better team. They have all the assets and 385 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: resources that we don't. But let us get on the line, 386 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: boy boy, and see if that factors in. I guarantee 387 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: you it won't wow. Because Shannon Sharp gotta be a 388 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: different person than that other person, and he always was. 389 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: That doesn't change when I change teams. That remains the same. 390 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: That's how a legacy is built. So all of these 391 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: shortcut takers, I was, they've canceled me for talking about 392 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein before the thing came out. But he offered 393 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: to suck my penis in front of all my people 394 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: at my agency. What am I supposed to do? He 395 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: did all of that. I'm thinking, I'm the only black 396 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: person on the script. I get there, it's three other 397 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: black guys on there. Whoa huh? I told him, no, 398 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: what y'all do? And this is why when I walk 399 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: in the room, heads go down behind my back. I'm nothing. 400 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm just a regular old comedian. That's better in jealous 401 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: but in my face, no, no, no, the king has 402 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: walked in and they have to respect it, only because 403 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: I'm not taken the shortcuts. I've not been funded. They 404 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: pay you to not talk about things they don't want 405 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: you to talk about. They tell you that themselves. I 406 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: can't do that, cause Steve told you that he stopped 407 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: doing stand up because he has seven TV shows. The 408 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: only problem is when he stopped stand up, he didn't 409 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: have those seven TV shows. He stopped stand up because 410 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: he got in a comedy battle called the Championship of 411 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: Stand Up Comedy with one Cat Williams in Detroit in 412 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: front of ten thousand people, and lost because Cat Williams 413 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: said he was actually bald and that was a wig 414 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: and I went in and that's why he couldn't do 415 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: stand up anymore. Imagine him coming to tell you another 416 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: story where he got so big and it was burning. 417 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: Them's fault because they want it to be movie stars. 418 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: What you called Ocean eleven to get that Nigga's part? 419 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: What do you mean you didn't want to be a 420 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: movie star? So on the behalf of Bernie, I would 421 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: have to say what I have to say. 422 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 4: Have you ever been on tour with any of these guys? 423 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: Every guy I mentioned to you is not funny out 424 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: there in real life. So no, Faison's never done his 425 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: own tour in thirty years. Steve Harvey don't do stand 426 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: up no more. Cedric doesn't write. I'm sorry he doesn't write. 427 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: Ricky Smiley has been playing the same old black woman forever, 428 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: like you can't get a young fan base with that, 429 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: Like you gotta be doing karaoke around the country to 430 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: make that work, and he is. But I'm a stand 431 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: up comedian. This is my nineteenth, one hundred city tour. 432 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have a conversation with these lazy bums 433 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: that will take a shortcut at any point. Yes, it's 434 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: easier for you to juice than to get in the gym, 435 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: but you don't get to bring that body in the 436 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: here talking. 437 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 4: Crazy about how good you look. What. 438 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: No, No, there's too many comics out there that are 439 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: put in their life on the line to tell these jokes. 440 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 4: Man. Okay, let's get to your upbringing. We're gonna circle 441 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 4: back and we just I want to protect them real quick. 442 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 4: Because you had said for. 443 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: The Kings of Comedy it was in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, 444 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: But did you mean nineteen ninety nine, because it came 445 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: out in two thousands. I just want to make because no, no, no. 446 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: So what I meant to say was, remember he said 447 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't do stand up anymore. I had seven TV shows, 448 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: I said. He didn't have any of those TV shows 449 00:25:55,240 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: at the time though, Cedric Okay eighteen twenty nineteen, but 450 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: it came out in two thousand, So I just want 451 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: to make sure, Okay, no, no, no, no no, what comes 452 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: out in. 453 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 4: Two thousand, the original Kings of Comedy? 454 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: Right, my, I'm on BET's Comic View and they're using 455 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: this as the commercial in nineteen ninety eight. That's why 456 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah. So if I yeah, so if I 457 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: said the date's wrong, yes, so. 458 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 4: Ain't clear that? Okay? 459 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 3: You said yeah, I had Cedric on here, and I 460 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 3: asked him about the joke stealing. He said, the timeline 461 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: doesn't add up. 462 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: Correct to your to that point, you say, right, So 463 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: he thought that I was just a no name comedian 464 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: and that he could take this joke and nobody would know. 465 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: The issue was that I had already done this particular 466 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: joke on BT's Comic View twice. It had done so 467 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: well on BT's Comic View that they had made it 468 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: part of the commercial. So part of the commercial of 469 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: make sure you tune in the BT. Was you seeing 470 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: and me doing this joke? And this joke is one 471 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: of those jokes in comedy where you set it up 472 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: and it takes a little longer to set it up, 473 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: takes about three minutes, but then you're just hitting them 474 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: with jokes after that because you don't have to set 475 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: it up. Mark Curry had already helped me work on 476 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: this joke because I thought it was good, because I 477 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: was getting a standing ovation on it. He had me 478 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: go back in the lab to helped me craft it 479 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: to be an even more powerful joke. So this is 480 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: not just a random joke. This is my very best joke, 481 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: and it's my last joke, and it's my closing joke. Okay, 482 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, I'm doing this joke. It's on Comic View. 483 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: Cedric comes to the comedy store, he watches me in 484 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: the audience, he comes backstage, he tells me what a 485 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: great job I did and how much he loves the joke. 486 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: Two years later, he's doing that as his last joke 487 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: on the Kings of Comedy, and he's doing it verbatim. 488 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: He's just changed my car into a spaceship. Him and 489 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: Steve had already apologized for me, so I gave him 490 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: a pass for a decade. Why would you sit here 491 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: and be like I talked to I saw Cat thirty times, 492 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: and Cat didn't do as I stand before you, Shannon, 493 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: I would a bust Cedric's stomach. There was nothing that 494 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: would have kept me from one of these in that 495 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: patch right there, Like, are you kidding me? Why would 496 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: you downplay me like that? Why did I give you 497 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: a pass if you were just gonna lie? And so 498 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, Like they're all a group, Cedric, Steve, Ricky, 499 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: They've been a group. Everybody knows that they've been aligned, 500 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: and there are these alliances in comedy, and if you 501 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: stand against them, then they sometimes have a problem. But 502 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: we don't let that change the content, because that's all 503 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: you know me for is that I'm quite likely to 504 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. 505 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 3: So help me, God, can you believe we're this deep 506 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: into the NFL season? 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You were a prodigy, you 535 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 3: were brilliant. You talked to me that you got to 536 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: accepted a college at seven years of age. You can 537 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 3: read fluently at three years of age. So having that 538 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 3: kind of knowledge, having that kind of of of of 539 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 3: prodigy are so? 540 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 4: What was so? I mean with it? What was upbringing? 541 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 4: How was it? How was life as Cat Williams crunk 542 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 4: coming up? 543 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: I I was often confused because I knew things and 544 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure how I knew them. I knew things 545 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: that I felt like, I don't have a reason that 546 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:22,479 Speaker 1: I know this, But I I loved to read. I 547 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: was voracious because they told me when I was young 548 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: that knowledge was powerful, that knowledge was power, and I 549 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: had studied powerful people, and I really believe that. I 550 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: immediately my next project was to read the whole encyclopedia set. 551 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: So when you're like six seven years old, you read 552 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: the whole encyclopedia set. You think you one of the 553 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: smartest people in the world, only to get out in 554 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: the world and find out you don't know anything. You know, 555 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: So it was a it was a confusing time. But yeah, 556 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: I had a childhood. I was grown, but I at 557 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: five years old, I was in front of five ten 558 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: thousand people given a performance with a full suit and 559 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: tie on, you know what I mean. So it hasn't 560 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: it had? It came full circle for my life. I 561 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: knew that the applause and the giving of information and 562 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: laughs and truth to people somehow benefited them and also 563 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: benefited you. And yeah, so when they would ask me 564 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: what I wanted to be, everything that I would say 565 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: that I wanted to be was something that didn't exist, 566 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 1: and they would never give me credit for it because 567 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: I needed to say a doctor or a lawyer. But 568 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: that's not what I wanted to be. 569 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 3: So your parents weren't as supportive as you would have hoped, 570 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 3: because you were wanting to be things when you got 571 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 3: older that they had no knowledge of or it didn't 572 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 3: exist at the time. 573 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: No, it wasn't that. It was I'm saying, I'm I'm 574 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: almost one hundred years old, right, now. But if we 575 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: go outside right now, I can run a four to 576 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: three forty or or sub I can do a four 577 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: to one six. 578 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 3: If Jim John's crossed the street, we can order a sub. 579 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 3: But oh, you've been on the submarine. 580 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: That what you saw so so back then it was 581 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: even greater. So you got this guy that all the 582 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: coaches want to like, I don't do that. Hold on 583 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: because I'm I'm five 't five in the fifth grade. 584 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: I've been this high as my whole life. Like there 585 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: was abortion of school where I was one of the 586 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,719 Speaker 1: big dudes. Like it's as soon as everybody caught a 587 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: gross spurt, I was out of it. But I'm saying 588 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: I was a competitive individual. My father wasn't accurate seback like, like, no, 589 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: I've been one hundred and forty five pounds my whole career. 590 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: That's why I never bothered when they said you cats 591 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: on drugs. I knew how you're going to prove that. 592 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: My body is a temple. 593 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 4: I've been the same size since I was teend. 594 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: Like, what do you yeah? Like, I haven't. I haven't 595 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: changed off this pivot foot. This has always been who 596 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: I was before stand up or anything. But it was 597 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: a It was an interesting childhood. I appreciate my parents, 598 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: even though I couldn't live within the religious framework so 599 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: what they had set up, But that was more not 600 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: wanting to live a double life and not want to 601 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: embarrass my family. 602 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, because I read were a 603 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 3: form of punishment for you is that they would take 604 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 3: books because you mentioned you were such a voracious reader, 605 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 3: and a form of punishment was when they would take 606 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 3: the books for because you could read fluently. You told 607 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 3: me how at like three or four years old, you 608 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 3: could read, read, read, not not just a little child's book, 609 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 3: but you could read read well. 610 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying when we when we go to Haiti to 611 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: do missionary work, understand that my mother and my father, 612 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: nobody that's there with us speaks French, and I mean 613 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: it speaks creole and reads French. So I'm in charge 614 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: of everything from the housing to the cars to the gardener, 615 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: like I'm saying. So I'm not just reading, I'm reading 616 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: in multiple languages. Like I'm I'm probably reading three thousand 617 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: books a year from the time that I'm eight years 618 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: old to the time that I'm twelve. No fiction books 619 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: at all. I'm only reading nonfiction. 620 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 4: You could drive. 621 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 3: At twelve, you received the full scholarship to the National 622 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 3: Science Academy in Dayton, Ohio, but you failed, so you 623 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 3: couldn't become so you would become ineligible. Why did you 624 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 3: want to take that opportunity. 625 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: I didn't see it as an opportunity. When I got 626 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: in there, all the students were wearing lab coats and 627 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: it seemed very confined and restricted, and nobody seemed like 628 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: they were having fun. It just seemed like everybody was smart. 629 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: I didn't want that. That was That wasn't what I 630 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: was signing up for at all. And plus I thought 631 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: that I was Jesus was my big homie. So you 632 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: know how you get a story about a dude joined 633 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: the gang and get a big home. Like at this 634 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: particular point in my life, my thought is that the 635 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: Bible is the greatest book that's ever been written, that 636 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: it houses the truth, and that it gives you this 637 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 1: story of Jesus, and that I'm supposed to be like him. 638 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: So it's already in my head that as soon as 639 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: I get thirteen, I'm leaving you. 640 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,959 Speaker 3: At thirteen, you the only like, okay, Mama moving out? 641 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 3: You moved from Ohio to Florida on your own. You 642 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 3: weren't afraid? 643 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: I mean you, like, did you? 644 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 4: So what were you? What were you going to do 645 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 4: when you got to Florida. 646 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: Don't say I wasn't afraid. There's no such thing as 647 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 1: a human being of not being afraid. There are certain 648 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: human beings that understand that being afraid in no way 649 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: stops you from doing what you gotta do. Okay, So 650 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 1: I was afraid, but I couldn't be that afraid because 651 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: I knew what had happened with Jesus, I knew how 652 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: it worked out. I knew that I wasn't in the 653 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: wrong with how I was feeling, and I knew that 654 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: I didn't have any bad intentions in it. So I 655 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:31,240 Speaker 1: trusted God that it would work out. What Florida, because 656 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: if you're raised in Ohio, the one thing on your 657 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,919 Speaker 1: list is I'm gonna get away from snow, and I'm 658 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: gonna get as far I want to go. Tell me 659 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: the place. I literally went to a truck stop and 660 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: I asked all the truck drivers where they was going. 661 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: And there was one guy going to California, and there 662 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: was one guy going to Florida. And they told me 663 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: how long it was gonna take. And so that's why 664 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,919 Speaker 1: I ended up in Miami because. 665 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 4: Bus me. 666 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 1: No, I just told you I was at the truck 667 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: stop I got in. I didn't hit you like I 668 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: got in the back of the dude eighteen wheeler, me 669 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: and my Rothwiler puppy and my suitcase. Yeah, because I was. 670 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: I probably had twenty five hundred dollars on me like 671 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: I like I was shoveling snow and cutting grass, like 672 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 1: I always had pockets full of money. 673 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 3: When did you make your decision that you were going 674 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 3: to leave Ohio and go somewhere. 675 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 4: And it ended up being Florida? 676 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 3: So but when did you know that you were leaving 677 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 3: dating Ohio going to Florida? 678 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: And my father and I's last interaction, somebody could have 679 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: not made it, and we both understood that was all bad. 680 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 4: What was the disagreement about? 681 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: If you say that my family is very religious, let's 682 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: just say I'm not. So anything that I'm going to 683 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: do is not gonna fall out of the guidelines, right, 684 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna let you tell me what I'm 685 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: going to be, even especially if what you're saying is wrong, 686 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: I can't condone wrong and if I find out that 687 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: something is wrong and I tell you where's wrong and 688 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: you don't back me, that's what it is. 689 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 3: Even as a young child, you were willing to tell 690 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 3: your parents that some of the things that you're saying 691 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 3: doesn't coincide to what I've been reading in the Bible. 692 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: No, no, very simply don't. Don't try to this fellowship 693 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,959 Speaker 1: me for sexual acts. And I'm a virgin. Sorry, God 694 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 1: don't make mistakes. You don't get two times to fuck 695 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: me over. What do you mean You went to God 696 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: and he told y'all was guilty. You just lie on 697 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:54,240 Speaker 1: God so long, that's it. There's no conversation, deuces. 698 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 3: So that that's when you made the decision. After that 699 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 3: conversation right there, you say, no, I can't, I can't 700 00:39:59,360 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 3: live under this. 701 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: It wasn't a conversation, it was an altercation. And the 702 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: altercation I love my father. My father loved me, but 703 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: we are two men at it that it'll never be 704 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: the same again. You can't sleep comfortably around me and 705 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: I can't sleep comfortably around you. 706 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 4: How similar are you to your father? 707 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 1: No, I don't know. He's a great man. I'm saying 708 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:34,240 Speaker 1: because your heads right, But I'm saying that generally happens 709 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: with a father's son dynamic. It was just that religious 710 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: relationships are always difficult in families. They always are. 711 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 3: Before he got to the point because the dynamic he's father, 712 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 3: your son, before that dynamic, and you step up on 713 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 3: his level and you challenge him, you feed it was 714 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 3: best for. 715 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 4: You to leave. 716 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm not being challenge I'm being beat 717 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: to death. 718 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 4: Oh he was abusive. 719 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: I didn't say that. I said we were in an altercation. 720 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 4: Uh, I see what you did that. 721 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 3: I saw what you did that. I sawd you did that. Cat, 722 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 3: I saw what you did. You was an altercation. You 723 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 3: didn't say you lost, you save You's an altercation. 724 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: I in no way gave you the impression that I 725 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: won anything. I'm the one leaving. I'm out of bounds. 726 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: This his house, right, ye. Yeah, So as long as 727 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be under his roofs, there are certain things 728 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: that I'm gonna have to do right. And the only 729 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: way that's gonna change is either this or that. And 730 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying I had two younger brothers, like I'm not 731 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: I'm not an unreasonable person, like I don't have any 732 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: mental issues whatsoever, despite what they lead people to believe. 733 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: You know, I make good, pretty good decisions. 734 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 4: Were you not? 735 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 3: So how was their relationship with your father? Were you 736 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 3: not a fay to leave them? 737 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: Well, I asked, because it went all the way to 738 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: the actual department, so it was actually going to be something. 739 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: And when I asked them if they could just make 740 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: sure that my brothers didn't get separated and what have you, 741 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 1: they said they couldn't make those type of guarantees, that 742 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: they weren't really sure what would happen if this went down, 743 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: And so part of leaving was the hope that it 744 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 1: would be okay for them, because none of them experienced 745 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: what I experienced. I'm saying I'm the oldest. It's a 746 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: lot riding on me. I'm supposed to at least religiously 747 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,800 Speaker 1: hold down the family's name at this household. You know 748 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: what I mean? 749 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 4: How much older are you than the baby and the 750 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 4: knee baby? 751 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: Like a lot older? Like if I'm thirteen, Yeah, they're 752 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:05,280 Speaker 1: five and in pampers. 753 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:11,280 Speaker 4: Wow, you go to Florida, you tell the story. 754 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 3: I've heard you you homeless, and somebody else told the 755 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 3: story said they were homeless, and you said they hijacked 756 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 3: your story. 757 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 4: Now, I don't know. 758 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: At thirteen, I shouldn't have to tell you I'm homeless. 759 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm I'm in Miami, Florida. I have no family members 760 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: in Florida. I couldn't buy a house if I wanted to. 761 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't get an apartment if I wanted to. I 762 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: don't have a credit history. Like this is not a 763 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: stretch for me to say that I'm homeless. I'm living 764 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: in a park in Coconut Grove. The park still exists 765 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 1: to this day. For eight hours a day, I would 766 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: get up and go to the library and study for 767 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: eight hours a day to increase my education. And then 768 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: I would leave out of there and go to the 769 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: marina and still car radios and make two thousand dollars 770 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: almost daily, like I had a routine. 771 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 3: So you could have played that Santa Oh thief in 772 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 3: Santa Claus. 773 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 4: You could have played it. 774 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,240 Speaker 1: No, the Santa Claus wasn't a thief. The Santa Claus. 775 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: You can't tell me I read the script. Ricky Smiley 776 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: told you he didn't read the script. The Santa Claus 777 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,879 Speaker 1: was a crackhead. He just had that outfit on. That's 778 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: what I couldn't have played Okay, Like I couldn't have 779 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: played a black guy that got raped in the bathroom. 780 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 3: Right, So at any point in times, you're like, man, 781 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 3: I made a mistake. Man, I should have stayed my 782 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 3: buddy in Ohio. Man, cause this is man, let's say 783 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 3: what I signed up for. 784 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: I didn't experience anything once I left home that I 785 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,800 Speaker 1: hadn't signed up for. If anything had saved my life, 786 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,280 Speaker 1: me being homeless for that small period of time allowed 787 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: me to see all of the people that were in 788 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: that situation, and to see that these were lawyers and 789 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 1: doctors and teatures, and that these people were white and 790 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 1: black and Asian and Indian. And the only thing that 791 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 1: all of these homeless people had in in common was 792 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: they made a bad decision and aligned themselves with drugs. 793 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:21,760 Speaker 1: And I interviewed them all what drug and guess what, Shannon. 794 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 1: Nobody had a great story. Nobody had a great story 795 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 1: of what meth had done for them, what crack had 796 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 1: done for them, with cocaine had done for them, where 797 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 1: heroin had done for them, with speed had done for them. 798 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 1: Nobody had them stories. Everybody's story was I had my 799 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: life together, and then I decided to do this dumb thing, 800 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 1: and I lost my wife, I lost my house, I 801 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: lost my cars, I lost my reputation, and I'm now 802 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 1: out here sucking penis in the woods. What talk about 803 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: scared straight? You ain't got to worry about me. If 804 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 1: that ain't weed or nicotine, you won't see me touching it. 805 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 1: I don't want no parts. I done seen what these 806 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,879 Speaker 1: things can do to people. Anything that take over your 807 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: free will is the devil itself. 808 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 3: Have you ever thought about what your life would have 809 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 3: been had you stayed in Dayton, Ohio? 810 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 1: No, that's like asking somebody that's in the NBA for 811 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: fourteen years, like, what would have happened if you didn't 812 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: come to the NBA. Oh I shut her to think. 813 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: I thought it was what I was made for. I 814 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: thought it was what I was built for. Anybody that 815 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,919 Speaker 1: knows me will tell you that when they first met 816 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: Kat Williams, when I was Cat in the Hat, and 817 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 1: they tell these stories about how he changed his name. Look, 818 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is Disney sued me. Yeah, 819 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: I was Cat in the Hat. They sent me a 820 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 1: cease and desist letter. And I'm not even making twenty 821 00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,040 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars a year and the Mega Company and 822 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: the Disney has sent me a cease and desist, telling 823 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 1: me I can't use any variations of that name. Fine, 824 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 1: I'm Kat Williams. That's all that happened. I have been 825 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: this same product the entire time. They will tell you 826 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: when they first saw me doing stand up, I was 827 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:21,240 Speaker 1: just like this, this is what I bring, this my style? 828 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 4: When did it? 829 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: When? 830 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 3: Did you know you was going you wanted? Were you 831 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 3: always funny? Did you always want to be a comedian? 832 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 3: Did you stumble on a comedianship? 833 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: No? I loved what they did, and so I studied them, 834 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: all of them. I studied all of the white comedians 835 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: because I wanted to know why is Monty Python funny? 836 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 1: Why is Don not so talented? I wanted to know 837 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 1: what is George Carlin's thing like where? So I studied 838 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,240 Speaker 1: all of the comedy masters, regardless of the field, because 839 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: I loved to like I didn't know that these people 840 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: were making a great living at doing this. I thought 841 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 1: this is just what they did. They tell jokes, they're 842 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 1: funny people. But I loved the craft, and that's why 843 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 1: when I got into the craft, I thought it was 844 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,879 Speaker 1: my obligation to make sure that I kept writing new 845 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: materials so much that it forced these comedians to stop 846 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: doing the set they've been doing for ten years and 847 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 1: keep writing some new stuff. And I knew that if 848 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 1: I could get that to take on, that most of 849 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 1: these bombs would have to just quit comedy because they 850 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,399 Speaker 1: can't keep up. They're not gonna keep writing an hour 851 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: worth of material. I've read an hour worth of material 852 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: nineteen times. They're not gonna do it. Why because they're 853 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: not creative writers. They want to get somebody else and 854 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 1: have them write it and put it together. 855 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 3: So so, if i'm listening to you, correct Correign if 856 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 3: I'm wrong, I think the best thing that ever happened 857 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 3: was the Internet because now they have to Like you said, 858 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,320 Speaker 3: you could do a set and you do that. Do that. 859 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 3: That's set in Kansas City. People ain't hearting in San Francisco, 860 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 3: people ain't hurting in Miami. They hearting Detroit, Chicago, Atlanta, 861 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 3: so forth and so on. Now you do a set, 862 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,800 Speaker 3: it's on the internet. Somebody heard it. So you can't 863 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 3: do a set and look it make it last three 864 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:19,280 Speaker 3: months four months. 865 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:28,880 Speaker 1: Well, it doesn't allow the regular comic the ability to 866 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,240 Speaker 1: grow is The real problem, like the part of comedy 867 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 1: is me taking these jokes in January and by March 868 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,760 Speaker 1: I've begun to craft this joke. It's not as simple 869 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 1: as it was when I wrote it. It was just 870 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 1: da da da da da. But now it has the 871 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: complexities of the fact that I'm having to deliver this 872 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: to an East Coast audience, a down South audience, a 873 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: Midwest audience, a Utah audience, a Colorado audience, And so 874 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 1: it begins to take on a different complexion because you're 875 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 1: having to deliver it to different people. Okay, and so 876 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 1: this is what sharpens your joke. You then take those 877 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 1: sharpened jokes that make it special, not you just randomly 878 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,879 Speaker 1: take some. So it's a process. You don't allow them 879 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: to process. If the first time the guy did the joke, 880 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 1: now that's his joke and the joke is everywhere, that 881 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 1: just sets it up for people to steal. 882 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 4: So how many times must you tell a joke before 883 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:30,359 Speaker 4: you master it? 884 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 1: How many times have you had to sleep with a 885 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 1: woman before you done with her? That's not fair. If 886 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 1: it's great, never if it ceases to have usefulness. So 887 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: it has been spoken, right. 888 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:58,879 Speaker 7: I read that you was raised in Florida. You had 889 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 7: some help some ladies of the night. No, no, no, 890 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 7: that's not true. 891 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: No, that whole story doesn't take place in Florida. That 892 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 1: story takes place in Oklahoma City. 893 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 4: Okay. 894 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,879 Speaker 1: So after I'm in Florida, I then join I try 895 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 1: to join the Marine Corps, and it won't accept me 896 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 1: because I'm too I'm too young, and I've lied and 897 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: told them I'm sixteen and my family's moving down out. 898 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 1: I don't have my ID but it's coming, and so 899 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: they let me go to the boot camp. Blah blah blah. 900 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: That's not gonna work now, Okay, So I've learned that lesson. 901 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,800 Speaker 1: So then I get this job selling stuff door to 902 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 1: door across the country, and so I've been to all 903 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 1: fifty states. Again, I'm thirty fourteen years old, So I 904 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: did that at While I'm doing that, one of the 905 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 1: places i'm at, I'm in Oklahoma, and I've decided I'm 906 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: gonna stay here because of meeting these ladies that you're 907 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 1: talking about and that situation. I don't know at the 908 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: time why that's important in my life, or why it's 909 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 1: something I should be doing, or any of that. But 910 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,760 Speaker 1: now later on it certainly helps me in formulating money. 911 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 1: Mike for Friday after Next and Pemp named Slickback for 912 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 1: the Boondocks. 913 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 3: Oklahoma. So San Francisco, Oklahoma, Sacramento. From Florida, you moved 914 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 3: to the West coast after so you traveling? When did 915 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 3: you set up shop on the West coast. 916 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 4: There? 917 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 1: So, I guess I'm uh eighteen or younger, and I 918 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 1: once I have my Once I have a child, I 919 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 1: realized that I can't. It's a lot of things that 920 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 1: I could use to make money that now is a 921 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 1: no go. So anything with street aspirations that I might 922 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: have thought about pursuing or been good at, I now 923 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 1: am a single parent and I got a redo these things. 924 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 1: So I need comedy to really work out for me. 925 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,319 Speaker 1: And me and God go into extreme conversation where I'm 926 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 1: explaining to him that I'm a crash out dummy if 927 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: he don't send me a lifeline, like I need something 928 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 1: I can hold on to. Before I had left Florida, 929 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,319 Speaker 1: I did stand up one time because we was trying 930 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 1: to get in the club. I didn't have ID, so 931 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 1: I said I was a comedian. They ended up having 932 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,400 Speaker 1: me do five minutes. I kept that in my head 933 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: that I had done that. When we get to Oklahoma, 934 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 1: they're having a competition for stand up and if you win, 935 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 1: you get to go out on the road with Jeff 936 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 1: Foxworthy and Dan Whitney who is Larry the Cable Guy, 937 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 1: and Richard Jenny and these great comics. You get to 938 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: open for him. And once I did that, I realized, Okay, 939 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 1: as a comedian, I'm like way behind schedule out and 940 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,240 Speaker 1: started this too late. All the funny guys are already 941 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,400 Speaker 1: funny and no names, Like, how am I going to progress? 942 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 1: So I realize that I do better with a white 943 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 1: audience than I do with a black audience. And I'm 944 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: not sure why that's occurrent, but the white audience likes 945 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 1: me more. That's that's interesting. So when I moved to Sacramento, 946 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:22,320 Speaker 1: it's because Sacramento has a white and a black audience 947 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 1: almost fifty to fifty. That's almost the makeup of Sacramento. 948 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,360 Speaker 1: So I live in Sacramento for two years until I 949 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,280 Speaker 1: get to the point where I am equally as funny 950 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 1: if the room is black as I am if the 951 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 1: room is white. That's not enough. Now I need to 952 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: be one of the good ones when it comes to 953 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,360 Speaker 1: black comics. So now I have to move to Oakland. 954 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 1: And that's what lands me in Oakland for three years. 955 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:56,440 Speaker 1: Once I have dominated a male black comedy in Oakland 956 00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 1: to my liking, Now I'm prepared to go to Los Angeles. Now, 957 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,319 Speaker 1: now I know you can't throw me any curveballs if 958 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 1: it's a white audience, if it's a black audience, no 959 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,919 Speaker 1: matter what they are, I'm prepared to deal with all 960 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 1: of the audiences. 961 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,359 Speaker 3: Do you write jokes according to the audience that you're 962 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 3: going to be in front of, or your joke universal? 963 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,880 Speaker 1: Well, in the beginning, part of my framework is that 964 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm tailoring every show to this audience. Okay, And that's 965 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,919 Speaker 1: how I was able to show my range and show 966 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,839 Speaker 1: that I was better than my competitors, is that I'm 967 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,840 Speaker 1: Kat Williams. But I was still doing clean comedy. So 968 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 1: I was still going to churches and doing forty five 969 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 1: minutes of stand up at the church with no curse words, 970 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 1: no sex, drug material, no none of that, just straight 971 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 1: stand up. And then I was doing everything else. Yeah, 972 00:55:55,280 --> 00:56:00,319 Speaker 1: that was the range. Is that where when in Rome 973 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:05,400 Speaker 1: do as the Romans do? So that's how I started. 974 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 1: But as you begin to get better, you begin to 975 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 1: be able to speak to your entire fan base. And 976 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 1: that's really what's been helpful is that I've been having 977 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:22,840 Speaker 1: the same conversation with my fan base for twelve comedy specials. 978 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 3: Is that what said Cat Williams Apart is your range 979 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 3: is that you can do a comedy do forty five 980 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 3: minutes from the church. I can go to a comedy 981 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 3: club in front of two fifty, or I can go 982 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,320 Speaker 3: into arena with fifteen thousand. 983 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,319 Speaker 4: That's range because everybody can't do that. 984 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,839 Speaker 1: Cat, Well, if that's what range is called, then then yeah, 985 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,880 Speaker 1: it's range. But I like the people I'm talking to. 986 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, So it's not like it 987 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:58,720 Speaker 1: can't be condescending because I'm talking to my white male friend. 988 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 1: When I'm telling that white joke. Right when I'm talking 989 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 1: about this joke about this black lady, I know that 990 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,839 Speaker 1: black lady. That's who I'm talking to. I'm I'm I'm 991 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm speaking to this fan base that I've been speaking 992 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 1: to from the beginning. I already told them what I 993 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 1: was on when I first came in. I told them 994 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 1: they was gonna come after me, they was gonna cancel me. 995 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 1: They was going say terrible things about me and try 996 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: to mess my life up. I said that, coming in 997 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 1: to stand up. I'm saying it. 998 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 4: Well, you knew it was gonna be. 999 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 1: It has to be. I know I'm going into the 1000 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 1: belly of the beast. How could I be naive? I 1001 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 1: know that I'm going into Satan's playground, But I'm trying 1002 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 1: to be so good that you got to bring me 1003 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 1: in so close that I can see who's doing what 1004 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,439 Speaker 1: and what's going on in. 1005 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 4: There in San Francisco, you join the nation? 1006 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 1: I was ever in San Francisco. I was in Oakland. 1007 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 4: You was an Oakland Did you join the nation? Is that? Yeah? 1008 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 1: A minister, honorable Minister far Con and I have an 1009 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 1: extremely close relationship. He refers to me as one of 1010 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:08,440 Speaker 1: his sons. So yeah, I spent a particular period of time. 1011 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 1: Let me explain, because my particular background was already religious 1012 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:21,800 Speaker 1: and super strict, right. I didn't find out about other 1013 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 1: religions by reading about them. I went to their religion. 1014 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to learn from Jewish people from outside. 1015 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 1: I want to be in a synagogue. I don't want 1016 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 1: to learn about Muslim people from I want to be 1017 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: in a mosque. I don't want to hear about the 1018 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 1: Baptist or the Pentecostal. I want to go to their church, 1019 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:46,480 Speaker 1: let's see. And so that was the religious discovery that 1020 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 1: I was on through that period in my life. 1021 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 4: When did you know you were funny? 1022 00:58:55,800 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 1: Probably about ten years ago. Ten years ago, yeah, about 1023 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 1: ten years So you didn't think. 1024 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 3: So you didn't think as a child because obviously you 1025 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 3: said the very structured background, your family was very religious, 1026 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 3: so obviously you didn't get an opportunity. 1027 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, like I never did a talent show. I 1028 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 1: was never any any extracurricular activities. I was never in drama. 1029 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 1: I was never in band camp. I was never a 1030 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 1: boy scout. 1031 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 4: You stay in school long enough to get for it 1032 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 4: because you dropped. 1033 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,360 Speaker 1: You understand, you understand. So there was no like, I 1034 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 1: don't I don't tolerate high school games. I didn't go 1035 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,560 Speaker 1: to high school. Don't. I don't know how most of 1036 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 1: the games they think I play, I'm not even aware 1037 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:41,919 Speaker 1: of them. 1038 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 4: But cap for you to get on stage. 1039 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 3: And like I said, a lot of people, like a 1040 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 3: lot of comedians that I had a few here, they're like, okay, 1041 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 3: you know I told Joe to get girls. 1042 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 4: I told Joe to, you know, get people to laugh 1043 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:53,640 Speaker 4: at someone else. 1044 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 3: But you, it's like you say, you did comedy one 1045 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,600 Speaker 3: time in Florida. Yeah, and you had this other opportunity 1046 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 3: like in Oklahoma that they were gonna take you out 1047 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,560 Speaker 3: if you won the talent show, you was gonna go 1048 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 3: on the road with these these well known comedians. 1049 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 1: And I did. 1050 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, how in Florida at thirteen, fourteen 1051 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 3: years of age, you like sixteen, I. 1052 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:15,440 Speaker 4: Could do that. 1053 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Well because I knew that there were a lot of 1054 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 1: other things I could do, Like when I looked at 1055 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 1: drug dealers, I thought I could do that. Yeah, but 1056 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:29,040 Speaker 1: I mean so right, and who doesn't like that? Right, 1057 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out I'm gonna make it, but 1058 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 1: now that I gotta do it on this side. But no, 1059 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 1: your question was when did I think I was funny? 1060 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 1: I never was my biggest fan. To this day, I'm 1061 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 1: not the biggest fan. I'm a fan of comedy. I 1062 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:50,280 Speaker 1: like great comedians, like I like Chappelle, I like Patresea O'Neill, 1063 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:54,000 Speaker 1: like I like the greats of comedy because I do 1064 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,640 Speaker 1: like I like Ron White, I like Bill Enpall like 1065 01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 1: I know comics, like people that did the craft. They 1066 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 1: raised me. I was touring with Steve Marmel and Richard 1067 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:11,400 Speaker 1: Jenny and Real Journeyman. So my comedy upbringing was standard. 1068 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,800 Speaker 1: I thought you had to work all night, every night, 1069 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 1: all around the country, and you had to write jokes, 1070 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 1: and that you were trying to write jokes that other 1071 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 1: people weren't writing, and that your job was to be funnier. 1072 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 1: People that know me will tell you I've been on this. 1073 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,760 Speaker 1: I had a list of all the black comedians that 1074 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 1: were more famous than me. There was three hundred of 1075 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,840 Speaker 1: them on the list, and I had to be able 1076 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 1: to cross them all out before I could make it 1077 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 1: to the next level. Before I felt like I was 1078 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:47,640 Speaker 1: funny enough to do that. And so I I appreciate 1079 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:52,480 Speaker 1: what competition does for sports, and for my particular sport 1080 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,120 Speaker 1: and comedy is a sports. 1081 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 3: What gave you the comedies that you could get on stage? 1082 01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 1: You remember I was five years old on stage. Okay, 1083 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:07,760 Speaker 1: that's but I was reiterating God's word at that point. Now, 1084 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 1: I just have to make sure that the content is good. 1085 01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,400 Speaker 1: If the content is good, what part can I not do? 1086 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm a vessel, He's given me these gifts to be 1087 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 1: able to do certain things, So I just want to 1088 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 1: utilize them in my craft, that's all. 1089 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 3: Do you remember your first set? How about five ten minutes? 1090 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 1: No? No, I think three minutes. 1091 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 3: Three minutes standing ovation, bulls, some plaw some years. 1092 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 1: No, none of that. They they appallauded like I was 1093 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 1: a professional at it. But now looking back, I understand, 1094 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 1: because you got to understand, they were all thinking, he 1095 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 1: don't even look old enough to be in here, and 1096 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 1: we don't have any black guys that live in this town, right, 1097 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 1: Where did he come from? And then he gets up 1098 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,959 Speaker 1: there and for three minutes he talked about the fact 1099 01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:01,480 Speaker 1: that he is the entire black community, right, and he 1100 01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 1: is as disappointed in them. It looked like they looking 1101 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,560 Speaker 1: for where the rest of them is, and so is he, 1102 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 1: And that was his set. But I understood from that 1103 01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 1: point that the truth is really the commodity and the 1104 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 1: fact that we are all individuals and all separate and 1105 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,560 Speaker 1: all our own islands. But not in real life. In 1106 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 1: real life, it's only five or six different types of people, 1107 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,480 Speaker 1: and you gonna see them everywhere that you go, and 1108 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,240 Speaker 1: all like all my enemies all look the same in 1109 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,960 Speaker 1: the eyes, whether it's faise On, wander Aria Spears, they 1110 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:36,920 Speaker 1: all looks like and. 1111 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 4: What you got to get sight? You think. 1112 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 1: I don't rumor that, sir, Wander Sights and wander Smith 1113 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,640 Speaker 1: are two separate people. And I. 1114 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 4: Wonder Sights. 1115 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 1: I love Wanda, and I agree. 1116 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:57,640 Speaker 4: I love that's my girl. But I remember on the radio. 1117 01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,760 Speaker 3: You went on the radio interview if I'm not gonna 1118 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:03,480 Speaker 3: sake that Atlanta right, and you came on there with 1119 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,520 Speaker 3: seemingly good intention, and she attacked you. 1120 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't just that part. It was the fact that 1121 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 1: before I go in there, she has a conversation about Okay, now, 1122 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,560 Speaker 1: I just want to talk to you because you just 1123 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:20,240 Speaker 1: wanted Emmy for the city of Atlanta, and this isn't Atlanta, 1124 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,320 Speaker 1: and they just want to hear about the Emmy and 1125 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,720 Speaker 1: hear from you and to thank you for what you 1126 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 1: did putting the city on. And we won't talk about 1127 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,440 Speaker 1: your kids, we won't talk about jail, no cases, we 1128 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,000 Speaker 1: ain't gonna talk about none of that. Right, and immediately 1129 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 1: gets in there and goes to opposite way. You can't 1130 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,800 Speaker 1: flip up on me because you're an inferior comedian. I'm 1131 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 1: going to destroy you. And I'm never gonna call you 1132 01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 1: out of your name. I'm never gonna say anything disrespectful 1133 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 1: the people that look like you. It's a very thin line. 1134 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 1: I got a call, but this lady is trying to 1135 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:57,680 Speaker 1: embarrass me in front of a largely homosexual fan base. 1136 01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:01,560 Speaker 1: That's why she got canceled. Gay people don't take it 1137 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 1: kindly that you would as a derogatory call me gay. 1138 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,640 Speaker 1: Gay people don't feel like it's derogatory. So why are 1139 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 1: you trying to shame me with something in the community 1140 01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 1: I don't even belong in. There's no gay people saying 1141 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,040 Speaker 1: I belong over there or been over there, But I 1142 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,280 Speaker 1: have no hatred of over there. And how dare you? 1143 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 4: Hey, you did a numb that's legendary. 1144 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 1: No, you either believe in karma or you don't. Because 1145 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,440 Speaker 1: I didn't even know any of the stuff that she 1146 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:36,200 Speaker 1: had done to my fellow comedians until afterwards. I just 1147 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 1: know she that it was a setup. And remember they 1148 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:47,720 Speaker 1: they tried to kill me this same weekend, not in jokes, 1149 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:52,800 Speaker 1: with a real gun, in my real face, on real camera. Understand, 1150 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:58,479 Speaker 1: I'm losing my life for participating in something that goes 1151 01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,960 Speaker 1: along with my job. Like this, two comedians, what do 1152 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,240 Speaker 1: you mean? And the world was okay with it because 1153 01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,360 Speaker 1: it was me. Had that happened to anyone else? The 1154 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:12,560 Speaker 1: world went crazy when Will Smack smacked Chris. This is 1155 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:16,280 Speaker 1: a person pulling a whole gun on a comedian in 1156 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 1: the confines of their job. It's really a weird situation 1157 01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:24,600 Speaker 1: when they hate you that bad. 1158 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:28,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you felt she hated you at that moment 1159 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 3: because you mentioned that she said he was gonna be 1160 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,880 Speaker 3: very professional. All you want to Emmy, congratulations, you put 1161 01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,840 Speaker 3: the city on you own for the city, YadA, YadA, YadA. 1162 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,240 Speaker 3: And now did she mention anything about the Emmy on camera? 1163 01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,440 Speaker 1: I believe you saw the video and you know that 1164 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:49,920 Speaker 1: none of that took place. See that. The issue is 1165 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:54,360 Speaker 1: that all the comedians have to come do these radio 1166 01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,040 Speaker 1: stations because you have to sell your tickets, and so 1167 01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,000 Speaker 1: that means you have to go to the radio. Yes, 1168 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 1: I don't go to the radio station, and I don't 1169 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:07,640 Speaker 1: make posts to sell tickets. I just don't. So you've 1170 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 1: not seen me. I haven't. I'm not here in some 1171 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,320 Speaker 1: subservient position or as somebody sent me over. 1172 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 4: I'm you hear out of the cantis of yard you are. 1173 01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,760 Speaker 1: No, No, I'm saying yes, yes, situations. 1174 01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:25,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's sure. 1175 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,200 Speaker 1: Yeah and this person knew I wasn't there for that 1176 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,000 Speaker 1: or yeah, it's. 1177 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,120 Speaker 3: But how hard because you have to understand she is 1178 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:36,360 Speaker 3: a female, and so you have to be careful. 1179 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,720 Speaker 4: You have to handle her with kid gloves. 1180 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,919 Speaker 1: Sir, Sir, you want to go ahead and take that out. 1181 01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,400 Speaker 1: You don't want to be against equality, dude, what you 1182 01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:51,800 Speaker 1: just said was very unequal. Sir, But you think maybe 1183 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 1: you've had enough of this because I think I just 1184 01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,160 Speaker 1: heard you saying that women are not equal as you'ld 1185 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,560 Speaker 1: be treated on e They want to be treated me 1186 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:03,360 Speaker 1: as a comedian. 1187 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:07,040 Speaker 3: No, no, they want Listen, you understand, and I understand 1188 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:11,160 Speaker 3: in certain situations they want to be treated equal, not 1189 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,280 Speaker 3: all situations. 1190 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:21,920 Speaker 1: And and what part of what you saw her get 1191 01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,679 Speaker 1: what part would have been different if she was a man, 1192 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,560 Speaker 1: It would have just been more vicious. 1193 01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:29,479 Speaker 4: That's my point. 1194 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,200 Speaker 1: I took all the vicious and then them long way 1195 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:37,280 Speaker 1: because I didn't have any Plus I understood, I'm not 1196 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:40,760 Speaker 1: trying to offend black women with short hair. I'm not 1197 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:45,280 Speaker 1: trying to offend heavyset women. I'm not trying to upset 1198 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,519 Speaker 1: fellow comedians. I'm not trying to do any of that, 1199 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,519 Speaker 1: and I can't. I am qualified to be able to 1200 01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:55,280 Speaker 1: do none of that and still eviscerate you because I'm 1201 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,200 Speaker 1: smart enough to know that I need to say that 1202 01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,080 Speaker 1: you have gnarled fingers because I know you're living and 1203 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 1: that education means you don't know what the word means, 1204 01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,840 Speaker 1: so you can't possibly respond to it. You're not sure 1205 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,040 Speaker 1: of the meaning. And I'm going to continue hitting you 1206 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:14,040 Speaker 1: because this is what comedians do. You've been masquerating that 1207 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:19,440 Speaker 1: you're a comedian too, and that's the fallacy. So nobody 1208 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:23,720 Speaker 1: in boxing fights out of their weight class. If you're 1209 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,760 Speaker 1: a one hundred and thirty pounder, you don't just show 1210 01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,040 Speaker 1: up with the one sixty pounders. You stay in your 1211 01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:28,799 Speaker 1: weight class. 1212 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,400 Speaker 3: Is that what you wanted to do? That she was 1213 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,600 Speaker 3: out of her league when it came to because. 1214 01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,160 Speaker 1: I didn't want to do any of it. I know 1215 01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:36,720 Speaker 1: you didn't want it to do it, but what she 1216 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:37,360 Speaker 1: took it there? 1217 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:39,960 Speaker 4: Did you feel that you had to go there? 1218 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:41,720 Speaker 1: Oh? 1219 01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,240 Speaker 3: You you could have say, Wanda, I didn't come here 1220 01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 3: for that. I just want to do the interview. I 1221 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:47,719 Speaker 3: just want to talk about what happened? 1222 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:51,960 Speaker 1: Oh you misunderstand my job. My job is to be funny. Haha. 1223 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,840 Speaker 1: My job is to be funny first. My first job 1224 01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,080 Speaker 1: is to be funny. My second job is to be respectful. 1225 01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:05,679 Speaker 1: My third job is to be immaculate and gaza strip it. Huh. 1226 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:10,040 Speaker 1: That's non political. I'm saying. If you do it, you 1227 01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:13,920 Speaker 1: let a terrorist accidentally touch over here, and I won't 1228 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,840 Speaker 1: stop burning you down until there ain't nothing left. It'll 1229 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,320 Speaker 1: literally be rubble on top of rubble, and I'll still 1230 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:25,839 Speaker 1: be bombing. Why, Because that's why you should mind your business. 1231 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:30,360 Speaker 1: This is what f around and find out is about. Right. 1232 01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:41,960 Speaker 4: Have you ever been boot caped? Yes? 1233 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have. 1234 01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,000 Speaker 4: What was that feeding like? Did it like want to 1235 01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,200 Speaker 4: give up? Because we don't? 1236 01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:55,400 Speaker 3: I mean, because when you have, I mean, I don't 1237 01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,040 Speaker 3: know how early it was in your career. Obviously it 1238 01:10:58,040 --> 01:10:59,400 Speaker 3: hadn't been in the I don't think it's in the 1239 01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,640 Speaker 3: last decade, because you've been immaculate. 1240 01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:10,200 Speaker 1: Have you ever dropped the past? I have, I've been, 1241 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:15,439 Speaker 1: you know, the little segment between everything is fine and 1242 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:22,080 Speaker 1: I got it and then you noticing where it is now. Yeah, 1243 01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:29,320 Speaker 1: it's that The thing about as a comedian The audience's 1244 01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:33,400 Speaker 1: opinion is the only opinion that matters, not you the writer, 1245 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:37,280 Speaker 1: not none of that. And so I don't think any 1246 01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:45,639 Speaker 1: comedian has ever been booed unnecessarily either. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 1247 01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying. What what do they 1248 01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,759 Speaker 1: say when a guy shoots the airball in the NBA? 1249 01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:56,000 Speaker 1: They say air ball and make sure everybody knows. But again, 1250 01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,600 Speaker 1: he still got to get back on de like the 1251 01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,200 Speaker 1: game didn't end. He don't get throw his hands up 1252 01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 1: and sunk. That's supposed to be used as a learning experience. 1253 01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:11,160 Speaker 1: Most comedians don't get booed enough. I mean, this is 1254 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,240 Speaker 1: how you end up with a Michael Blackson who's a 1255 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:17,800 Speaker 1: real African doing a fake African accent. Okay, this guy 1256 01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,559 Speaker 1: is mad at me. All I did was give him 1257 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,639 Speaker 1: the best advice of his life. Remember he was wearing 1258 01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:25,000 Speaker 1: dirty dashiki and I told him he needed to dress 1259 01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,760 Speaker 1: to be in the position that he's trying to say 1260 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,880 Speaker 1: that he's in. And if you're the African King of comedy, sir, 1261 01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:34,759 Speaker 1: there's actually comedians in Africa doing comedy. If you're gonna 1262 01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,080 Speaker 1: say that, you gotta go to Africa and get a 1263 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,360 Speaker 1: school dude. Everybody got you gotta put in some work. 1264 01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,880 Speaker 1: And these guys they take my advice, they change their 1265 01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:48,040 Speaker 1: whole persona, and then they hate me for it. And 1266 01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:52,160 Speaker 1: generally I'm just too big to comment or make a 1267 01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,280 Speaker 1: statement about it, or do a live or any of that. 1268 01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,240 Speaker 1: But when it gets to be a whole grouping of 1269 01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:04,920 Speaker 1: these guys, I gotta come and talk to Shannon. I 1270 01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:06,519 Speaker 1: gotta lay down at the altar. 1271 01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:09,519 Speaker 4: You know, every comedian, this, this. 1272 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:15,720 Speaker 1: Is the other side of Kirk Franklin, Prince, this is 1273 01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:16,560 Speaker 1: the reckon. 1274 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:18,400 Speaker 4: Twenty twenty four. 1275 01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,160 Speaker 3: You watched that. You know, every comedian that's been on 1276 01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:28,240 Speaker 3: my show. You know you watched every episode, because that's. 1277 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:29,920 Speaker 1: Not what you said. You said, I know every you 1278 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:31,519 Speaker 1: know every comedian. You're limiting me. 1279 01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,400 Speaker 3: Oh, you watched every episode because you you know things. 1280 01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:42,840 Speaker 1: You know thaves that. That's always where I'm trying to 1281 01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,840 Speaker 1: come from, whether it's comedic or otherwise. That's why even 1282 01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,200 Speaker 1: if you see me get arrested ten times in a 1283 01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,599 Speaker 1: row on TV as a fan of mine, you can 1284 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:56,640 Speaker 1: be like, he's gonna be right out. Yeah, but they 1285 01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:00,799 Speaker 1: just said he didn't do it. He couldn't. It's stupid? 1286 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,519 Speaker 1: Why would he do something stupid knowing he got to 1287 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:09,280 Speaker 1: come back and talk to us. Nah, they respect that 1288 01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,559 Speaker 1: every time it happens. I'm gonna be free as a 1289 01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,800 Speaker 1: bird sitting out here talking to you about it, that 1290 01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,680 Speaker 1: it really was what I said it was. 1291 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:20,840 Speaker 4: That's all you end up, You Tom down, You're in LA. Yeah. 1292 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,480 Speaker 4: Now I'm reading. 1293 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:30,240 Speaker 3: Cat Williams won Entertainers and how's a Bush? The Best 1294 01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,439 Speaker 3: Los Angeles Comic Award? 1295 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:38,160 Speaker 4: Did you win? That award? Won? Cat Williams. It's a 1296 01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,040 Speaker 4: simple yes or no. It's not a rhetorical question. 1297 01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,679 Speaker 1: It's a question that probably should have been asked to entertainer. 1298 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:44,559 Speaker 4: I'm asking you. 1299 01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,120 Speaker 1: I got you here, though I know I couldn't believe 1300 01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,840 Speaker 1: sent or didn't get asked that question. You still a 1301 01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,599 Speaker 1: dude's joking to give him a award and then tell 1302 01:14:53,720 --> 01:15:00,680 Speaker 1: him laying you don't know nothing about it. Hey, but 1303 01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:05,799 Speaker 1: I promise you this, if he sees me again before 1304 01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:09,240 Speaker 1: he sees you, he'll be talking different when you see it, 1305 01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,120 Speaker 1: That's for certain. That's the difference. That's what these comics 1306 01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,760 Speaker 1: understand is that I'm not doing nothing for Cloud. I 1307 01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:20,200 Speaker 1: don't even recognize Cloud. But eventually the Lord is gonna 1308 01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:23,680 Speaker 1: let me and you be in one hallway. A lot 1309 01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:30,240 Speaker 1: of these dudes go. Kevin Harden went twenty five years 1310 01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,880 Speaker 1: without ever being in the same building with me at 1311 01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,160 Speaker 1: the same time. If I go in the building, he 1312 01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,599 Speaker 1: walk out. You've never seen us in the same building 1313 01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:43,400 Speaker 1: ever in twenty five years. Like it's like that, Why why? 1314 01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,719 Speaker 1: Because I'm really the product. It's not what you think. 1315 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:52,280 Speaker 1: I am never under the influence of anything. I'm always 1316 01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:57,040 Speaker 1: in my right mind. I'm always a physical specimen. And 1317 01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,720 Speaker 1: when you see me, I'm much much bigger than you 1318 01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:05,720 Speaker 1: had thought. I have far less play in me than 1319 01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:09,200 Speaker 1: you would like, and I'm relentless. I'm out there. I'm 1320 01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:13,080 Speaker 1: still to this day, I play eleven games of basketball 1321 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:17,439 Speaker 1: with a twenty year old. The record is ninety two 1322 01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:22,439 Speaker 1: and six. This is just in the yard, just to 1323 01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:23,120 Speaker 1: the rack. 1324 01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,200 Speaker 3: Just because you work out care y'ah, I mean no, 1325 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:27,840 Speaker 3: you work out cat, not to the gym. 1326 01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,240 Speaker 4: You don't work out the gym. You push up sit ups. 1327 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,160 Speaker 1: My whole life was it was just push ups and 1328 01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:38,080 Speaker 1: setups only. I would do like one hundred push ups 1329 01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:38,439 Speaker 1: a day. 1330 01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,120 Speaker 4: Just I thought you was gonna say a thousand. 1331 01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,360 Speaker 1: No, no, no, because this is literally every day. This 1332 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,080 Speaker 1: is not for the yeah, for the graund you know 1333 01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 1: what I mean, like literally one hundred a day. And 1334 01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,320 Speaker 1: I would do push ups and then I tore both 1335 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,760 Speaker 1: my rotator cuffs and so it was only thanks to 1336 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:58,120 Speaker 1: golf that I was even able to get mine. I've 1337 01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,800 Speaker 1: been a golfer for quite some time. I shore game 1338 01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:04,280 Speaker 1: is impeccable. I can't get you but but to and 1339 01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,720 Speaker 1: some change off of the t off the tee. But 1340 01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm still I'm I'm still coming in for par guaranteed. 1341 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:13,920 Speaker 4: Are you playing for the tips? 1342 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,280 Speaker 1: Uh? No, I've found that you don't get anything for that. 1343 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:24,240 Speaker 1: It seems like it seems very ego monologal. They go, hey, 1344 01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:29,000 Speaker 1: cat for free, you can go further back there. Wait 1345 01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:32,200 Speaker 1: it does it still counsel sing, Hey, I'm up at 1346 01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:36,800 Speaker 1: the ladies teage. Don't tell me my pronounce on the 1347 01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:43,360 Speaker 1: golf course. She her him, damn man, They whoever whoever 1348 01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:46,800 Speaker 1: at the front team. 1349 01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,240 Speaker 3: We're I know, we're joking. We're having great conversation. But 1350 01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,680 Speaker 3: you did win the award. How did the ward help 1351 01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,280 Speaker 3: your career? It had to help some cat. 1352 01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:57,120 Speaker 1: Nope, No, I didn't remember it happened to you just 1353 01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,960 Speaker 1: said it set. How can Sedri give you an award 1354 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:04,719 Speaker 1: that was worth something? Everything Sedrin and Ricky Smiley ever 1355 01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:09,639 Speaker 1: been in got canceled for not being funny. Ricky Sahir 1356 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,840 Speaker 1: told you that they cut him out of every movie 1357 01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:21,320 Speaker 1: he did. They always had a reason. That's why I'm funny, 1358 01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,840 Speaker 1: because I'm a happy person. I laugh all day long. 1359 01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:33,240 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine the misery of these bumps. Just 1360 01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:34,880 Speaker 1: to not be good at what you do, not work 1361 01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:36,680 Speaker 1: hard at what you do, but have that like you 1362 01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:40,400 Speaker 1: the best at what you do. It is crazy. It's great. 1363 01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,800 Speaker 3: But they be touring, they be doing like a hundred 1364 01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:43,400 Speaker 3: shows a year. 1365 01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:44,439 Speaker 4: That's me. 1366 01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,280 Speaker 1: I don't run into none of them. That's what I'm saying. 1367 01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,000 Speaker 1: If you're a face our love fan, you mean you've 1368 01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:54,559 Speaker 1: been a fan of him for thirty two years. You 1369 01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,559 Speaker 1: still waiting on him to do his first special? You 1370 01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,519 Speaker 1: mean to tell me if Steve Harry your favorite comedy, 1371 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,240 Speaker 1: you mean you've been waiting for him to do stand 1372 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:06,439 Speaker 1: up for fifteen years now. I mean, Steve got a 1373 01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,639 Speaker 1: lot of d DL still out there. None of those 1374 01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,840 Speaker 1: irons matter to stand up? Who cares that they wrote 1375 01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,320 Speaker 1: a plat card for you to do family feud on 1376 01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,720 Speaker 1: like you're successful, because we're surprised you can talk for 1377 01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,200 Speaker 1: a living, and it's entertaining that you're gonna say some 1378 01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:29,280 Speaker 1: funny country things. But not a writer, right, Not a writer.