Speaker 1: M Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting next to my partner in crime,
Speaker 1: Wes Hodkowits were coming to you here from our studios
Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and West. It is Wednesday, our midweek show,
Speaker 1: and that means we take a look at the Packers
Speaker 1: upcoming opponent in a little bit more detail, and that
Speaker 1: of course is the Dallas Cowboys. It'll be a PM
Speaker 1: kickoff Sunday from a T and T Stadium down there
Speaker 1: in Texas. And you know, we always start these examinations
Speaker 1: of the opponent with the guy who sort of jumps
Speaker 1: off the page is where it all starts. And I
Speaker 1: think it's pretty obvious with the Dallas Cowboys. And certainly
Speaker 1: when you look at what happened to the how Boys
Speaker 1: last week and how they lost to the New Orleans Saints,
Speaker 1: it all starts with Ezekiel Elliott with this team, doesn't
Speaker 1: it it? Does? You know? Danny Vitali had those uh
Speaker 1: you know, make fullbacks great again hats. I don't turn
Speaker 1: this into the whole political thing, but I thought it
Speaker 1: was kind of cute, you know, with fullbacks. If I
Speaker 1: kind of had to go through Ezekiel Elliott. For me personally,
Speaker 1: I don't know how about the outside world feels about this.
Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott changed my perspective on the running back position
Speaker 1: because there was a time, probably as recently as five
Speaker 1: years ago, where I was like, I wonder if we've
Speaker 1: seen the last time we're going to see a running
Speaker 1: back taken in the first round, you know, just because
Speaker 1: there's sort of been this devaluation of the position, and
Speaker 1: thoughts said, okay, well, you can find these guys in
Speaker 1: the fourth, fifth, sixth round, undrafted free agents. The Alfred
Speaker 1: Morris is the world. You can find your franchise running
Speaker 1: back anywhere. And then you see a guy like Zeke
Speaker 1: Elliott come into the league and just flip everything on
Speaker 1: its head. I think it now see Quon Barkley, this
Speaker 1: new guard at the running back position, and I'll say this,
Speaker 1: personally speaking, it's very difficult with you know, this new
Speaker 1: constraint into the c b A for these running backs
Speaker 1: to kind of get what they feel their value is.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for how Zeke Elliott
Speaker 1: approached the situation this offseason. Kudos to Dallas for recognizing
Speaker 1: this is our franchise player. We have to take care
Speaker 1: of him. Everything we're going to talk about here in
Speaker 1: the next twenty minutes, Mike, it starts at Zeke Elliott.
Speaker 1: The passing game, the momentum, the just the confidence of
Speaker 1: this unit and how they play together. Starts with what
Speaker 1: he does in the backfield. Yeah, I mean, it all
Speaker 1: stems off of that. And there's a reason, quite frankly,
Speaker 1: that Zeke Elliott got a contract extension before Marie Cooper did,
Speaker 1: before Dak Prescott did. I mean, this is the guy
Speaker 1: right on the offensive side of the ball, and it's
Speaker 1: just no way to replace him. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: now they do have a nice prospect here and Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard that they brought in. He you know, he's had
Speaker 1: a carries and looks does some nice things. But you
Speaker 1: have to understand, and you know, the way that this
Speaker 1: offense is set up, and and credit to Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: and the job that those offensive coaches are doing right now,
Speaker 1: but everything is set up on Zeke Elliott in making
Speaker 1: defenses commit to stopping him, the play actually game of
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, the downfield passing options for Marik Poper. It
Speaker 1: all starts with Elliott and I just I think, you know,
Speaker 1: the numbers are not huge. It's not going to be
Speaker 1: the six yards per carry average that you know, it's
Speaker 1: just gonna whole you right off the bat. The boy
Speaker 1: does he remind me a lot of you know, when
Speaker 1: you look at em at Smith and the way that
Speaker 1: he just sort of plowed through defenses and war teams
Speaker 1: down over four quarters, Elliott brings that dimension. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I think the question with Zeke Elliott heading into this
Speaker 1: game is because he's coming off of really one of
Speaker 1: the worst games of his career in terms of the
Speaker 1: yards per carry, the number of carries he was given
Speaker 1: would ended up being was it t th yards? So
Speaker 1: not even not even two yards per carry with essentially
Speaker 1: a full workload realistically speaking against the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 1: So my question to you is West, does this just
Speaker 1: mean Ezekiel Elliott, regardless of who the opponent is this week,
Speaker 1: when he's coming off of a game like that, is
Speaker 1: ready to bust out or are there things that the
Speaker 1: Packers can look at what the New Orleans Saints did,
Speaker 1: because this is not the same Packers defense that has
Speaker 1: had trouble with Elliott in the past. Whether the Packers
Speaker 1: of one are lost the game. Elliot has always kind
Speaker 1: of done his thing against Green Bay. So how do
Speaker 1: you see this now heading into this Week five matchup,
Speaker 1: with where the Packers defense is in the struggles against
Speaker 1: the run, and with where Elliott is coming off of
Speaker 1: one of the more forgettable performances of his career. What
Speaker 1: are the really strange things about Zeke Elliott? For as
Speaker 1: much as I just said about him and and how
Speaker 1: accomplished he has been in his first three point five
Speaker 1: seasons here in the NFL, is that he has these
Speaker 1: performances every once in you know, basically once a season,
Speaker 1: maybe twice a season, where they just don't get the
Speaker 1: ground game going. It's happened during each of his four
Speaker 1: NFL seasons to this point. But one of the things
Speaker 1: you understand about him is he bounced back quickly. And
Speaker 1: you know that's not to say you know, you look
Speaker 1: at where the Packers are at. They have to bounce
Speaker 1: back as well, coming off the performance that they had
Speaker 1: last week when they had you know, too stiff challenges
Speaker 1: with what Denver was throwing at them and what Philly
Speaker 1: was throwing at them. Both of these I think both
Speaker 1: of these units both you know, the run game for
Speaker 1: Dallas and in Green Bay's run defense. I don't want
Speaker 1: to call it a crossroads by many means, but they
Speaker 1: want to, you know, get a little bit of momentum
Speaker 1: back to what they're doing, and ultimately only one is
Speaker 1: going to prevail on this matchup. I just think, you know,
Speaker 1: when you look at Elliott, I wish I could really
Speaker 1: give you a nice exces and o breakdown for what
Speaker 1: New Orleans did to take him away. My initial thought though,
Speaker 1: is they just gain tackled really well. They filled their
Speaker 1: gaps and there just wasn't a lot of holes for
Speaker 1: him to seep through into that second level. And you
Speaker 1: look at the first two games again, hundred yard performances,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't like it was carried on the back
Speaker 1: of a sixty yard run. It was just a lot
Speaker 1: of grinding out those yards and they just didn't get
Speaker 1: them in that matchup. Green Bay conversely, coming off a
Speaker 1: game where there weren't a whole lot of big, massive breakdowns,
Speaker 1: but there was enough penetration in that second level that
Speaker 1: it really hurt them against the Eagles. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a gut check for both of these units. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: I think That's what makes this matchup really intriguing because
Speaker 1: we've been hearing from the Packers defense. They they believe
Speaker 1: they know they can stop the run better than they have.
Speaker 1: They don't feel like that is the kind of defense
Speaker 1: that they plan to be and that they will be
Speaker 1: as the season goes along. This is as as tough
Speaker 1: a test as it gets. Now you flip it to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys passing game and Amari Cooper the top target
Speaker 1: obviously for Dak Prescott. Now, Michael Gallup started the season
Speaker 1: with a couple of pretty good games. He was over
Speaker 1: two yards through the first two games of the season.
Speaker 1: Now he's missed the last two contests. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what his injury status is at this end of any word,
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out this week. The nice think about
Speaker 1: when you play the Cowboys is Jerry Jones always has
Speaker 1: something to say, so he's been saying that they're not
Speaker 1: ruling out Gallup. Um. I actually really think it'd be
Speaker 1: cool if he played in this game, because you want
Speaker 1: to talk about Elvis Witted in the job he did
Speaker 1: at Colorado State, Gallup was one of those one of
Speaker 1: those receivers that his program, so seeing him if he
Speaker 1: could you know both of those guys now at the
Speaker 1: next level would be neat to see. But we're to
Speaker 1: see exactly what he can work through this week. But
Speaker 1: typically typically and we'll see exactly what the injury reports
Speaker 1: looked like. When they always say we're not ruling out somebody,
Speaker 1: I always take that as a doubtful designation. So we'll
Speaker 1: see exactly how it shuffles out. But you know, at
Speaker 1: the very least, Jerry Jones is leaving that door open
Speaker 1: for him. Well, the other targets with gallop out the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, aside from Amari Cooper, Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: has the former packer Randall Cobb working out of the slot.
Speaker 1: He's also got the veteran tight end Jason Witten, who's
Speaker 1: gone from the field to the monay at football booth
Speaker 1: and back to the field over the course of the
Speaker 1: last couple of years. Now, those guys really getting you know,
Speaker 1: three or four catches a game. Nothing that would qualify
Speaker 1: as as game breaking in the passing game, but veteran
Speaker 1: players who know what it takes, and you always wonder,
Speaker 1: you know, Randall Cobb was a fan favorite around here.
Speaker 1: You have a media favorite around here. As well. Really
Speaker 1: good guy to talk to. But you wonder, you know,
Speaker 1: will that little chip maybe beyond his shoulder because the
Speaker 1: Packers didn't show that interest in bringing him back, and
Speaker 1: and he found a contract somewhere else. Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 1: I mean everybody approaches a little differently, right. Remember what
Speaker 1: it was like trying to cover this team when Greg
Speaker 1: Jennings went to the Vikings, And then there's other times
Speaker 1: where t J. Lang was with Detroit and remember those
Speaker 1: conference calls and it was just all kind of cool
Speaker 1: and fun. And you know, everybody handles these situations differently.
Speaker 1: I mean Randall cop I mean he's on that then
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore of receivers that Aaron Rodgers played with, and
Speaker 1: you talk about the trust factor and and what the
Speaker 1: relationship that those two guys had. Um, you can't really
Speaker 1: overstate it, um. I mean they they had a chemistry
Speaker 1: there that is not only hard to you know, achieve
Speaker 1: between any kind of quarterback and receiver, but what just
Speaker 1: was what was truly special. I think they still you know,
Speaker 1: I think Rogers I remember correctly stood up in Randall's wedding.
Speaker 1: I mean they had that kind of friendship together. Now
Speaker 1: that being said, Um, he came out of the gates
Speaker 1: in Week one and looked really good. I mean, he
Speaker 1: had a nice touchdown there. I think that came off
Speaker 1: sort of a post route from the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: Last couple of weeks they've had a more difficult time
Speaker 1: getting him going for the first time ever. The Packers
Speaker 1: are gonna have to worry about him in the kickoff
Speaker 1: and punt return games. That's an area that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have been using them in. And then lastly, that slop
Speaker 1: position has been very important for the Cowboys over the years,
Speaker 1: especially during the Dak Prescott era. Now, last year, Cole
Speaker 1: Beasley kind of fell off a little bit, but before
Speaker 1: that he was one of the primary targets in that offense,
Speaker 1: and that's sort of the role that Cobb has stepped into.
Speaker 1: So seeing how he feels that throughout the course of
Speaker 1: the year and in this matchup will be intriguing to watch.
Speaker 1: And how exactly Packers want to defend him. Is that
Speaker 1: going to be Trumont Williams lining up across room. That's
Speaker 1: kind of an interesting dynamic. And then just to touch
Speaker 1: on Jason Witten. He had the regrettable fumble last week.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's gonna want that back. But watching that
Speaker 1: game man against the Saints, his what Jason Witten does
Speaker 1: now at thirty six or however old he is, it's
Speaker 1: not predicated on speed anymore. Right, It's not predictor hasn't
Speaker 1: been for a long time, frankly, and that's not taking
Speaker 1: anything away from him. But even before he retired that
Speaker 1: first time he was he was not the seams stretcher
Speaker 1: that he was earlier in his career, but he adapted
Speaker 1: in in the real good tight ends in this league,
Speaker 1: the Tony Gonzalezes of the world, they adapt their skill
Speaker 1: sets to fit their time and their career and both
Speaker 1: the time of the play style and just seeing wit
Speaker 1: and get back into this thing he is. You mentioned
Speaker 1: it's only about two or three catches here and there,
Speaker 1: but it's been touchdowns, it's been you know, moving the
Speaker 1: chains type of plays. He's just that old war horse
Speaker 1: that just kind of keeps stredging on and um, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a guy that the Packers definitely have to be
Speaker 1: cognizant of because, well, it might only be two or
Speaker 1: three catches, those catches a lot of times have some
Speaker 1: meaningful impacts on football games. Yeah, Well, before we get
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Speaker 1: we believe in better. Okay, with regards to the Cowboys defense,
Speaker 1: the Packers you look at in the playoffs, seven team
Speaker 1: going down, winning a pair of last second type football games,
Speaker 1: this is a different Cowboys defense. They have rebuilt things,
Speaker 1: They have revamped things on that side of the ball.
Speaker 1: I think it starts with Jalen Smith, like another guy
Speaker 1: they gave a new contract to before they even looked
Speaker 1: at their quarterback, which says something about how they feel
Speaker 1: about what he has done and a great story with
Speaker 1: everything that he came back from from the college injury
Speaker 1: and where he was taken in the draft and and
Speaker 1: everything that that had started to go wrong for him,
Speaker 1: so to speak. There he's right where a lot of
Speaker 1: people thought he would be if he had never gotten hurt,
Speaker 1: and he is really the centerpiece of a much improved
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys defense. Yeah, I mean, I really think of
Speaker 1: this is when you look at the Dallas Cowboys. If
Speaker 1: you're like saying, Okay, you gotta pick out you know
Speaker 1: who goes on the program cover who's the highlight of
Speaker 1: this defense. It's Jalen Smith. Just because of his skill,
Speaker 1: his size, his speed, his athleticism. It brings a different
Speaker 1: demension into that team that they've been kind of missing
Speaker 1: in this interim basis. As we talked about with you know,
Speaker 1: Sean Lee working through the injuries that he had to
Speaker 1: work through, and the different versions of this defense, and
Speaker 1: how Rod Marinelli for many years had to kind of
Speaker 1: just make all these things fit when maybe they didn't
Speaker 1: have the top of the line talent that they might
Speaker 1: have needed to make a true championship run. Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: is that player. I also think Layton Vanderesh, you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, I think I was talking
Speaker 1: to you about, uh, you know, Darnell Savage, and I've
Speaker 1: always been I actually wrote this an inboxes where it
Speaker 1: came from. I've always been sort of leary of climbers,
Speaker 1: guys that maybe weren't picked his first round picks or
Speaker 1: second round picks, but then right after the combine up
Speaker 1: until when you know, April comes around. They just jet
Speaker 1: up the charts. Darnell Savage is a guy that has
Speaker 1: sort of changed that for me. Layton Vanderesh is another one.
Speaker 1: A few years back, you know, I remember going to
Speaker 1: the combine. I want to say Laton Vanderesh was guestimated
Speaker 1: to be like a third round pick, definitely a Day
Speaker 1: two pick, and then he just climbed the charts man.
Speaker 1: And I think him and Smith are really bright future,
Speaker 1: you know, playmakers in that defense and what they want
Speaker 1: to do. And then they got you know, the old
Speaker 1: veterans there too, you know, the Robert Quinn's the world,
Speaker 1: and certainly Dexter Lawrence has been a playmaker for them
Speaker 1: for a number of years. DeMarcus Lawrence, DeMarcus Lawrence text
Speaker 1: to Lawrence Will DeMarcus Lawrence has been there already been
Speaker 1: a long week, you know. But you know they I
Speaker 1: think they just have a really good blend of of
Speaker 1: some veteran talent and some really young playmakers that are
Speaker 1: pretty exciting. Jeff Heath, who's just Jeff Heath, is always
Speaker 1: just in the mix two with them. Yeah, it seems
Speaker 1: like he's been there for a long time. And I'm
Speaker 1: not even that familiar with his career. But of course
Speaker 1: I remember I remember him mostly from that playoff came
Speaker 1: down there because he had a big interception of Rogers,
Speaker 1: but then he also had uh a sack of Rogers
Speaker 1: where somehow Rogers still hung out of the ball and
Speaker 1: didn't turn it over. He was a big factor in
Speaker 1: that game for the Dallas Cowboys. But some matchups that
Speaker 1: will be interesting here West because we don't know the
Speaker 1: status of Ande Adams, so obviously if he is absent,
Speaker 1: that will change completely how the Cowboys decided to match
Speaker 1: up with the Packers receiving corps. And then you mentioned
Speaker 1: a guy like DeMarcus Lawrence, the top edge rusher for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. We don't know the status of Brian Bulago
Speaker 1: with his shoulder injury at this point, and whether the
Speaker 1: Packers will have to adjust if Alex light will be
Speaker 1: stepping in potentially at right tackle, and then what that
Speaker 1: does to the game plan, and if he if you
Speaker 1: need to scheme some things to help him out in
Speaker 1: certain situations. So um, a lot of really going into
Speaker 1: this game. It seems like there there are a lot
Speaker 1: of questions with regards to injuries, because you know the
Speaker 1: injuries on the list right now are to such prominent
Speaker 1: players Kevin King won for the Packers that we're not
Speaker 1: sure of his status on defense, and when you're talking
Speaker 1: about Amari Cooper and Randall Cobb and whether or not
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup is going to play. So a lot of
Speaker 1: questions here as we head into this game as to
Speaker 1: just what I guess the really primary matchups are going
Speaker 1: to be, depending on who's on the field. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then Davante Adams just seeing exactly what what the you know,
Speaker 1: what that's gonna look like. And if Adams isn't out there,
Speaker 1: how does both Matt Lafleur, And then also for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: how they move their chest pieces around and who plays where.
Speaker 1: The big thing I think is going to be, especially
Speaker 1: how Green Bay's run front, as we talked about, matches
Speaker 1: up with the trenches of the Cowboys. And the reason
Speaker 1: I pointed out one of the other aspects we didn't
Speaker 1: really get a chance to talk about with the offense
Speaker 1: is that you know, you have Cameron Fleming, who's been
Speaker 1: a veteran, He's been around I think for five six
Speaker 1: years now. He's the guy that steps in at left tackle.
Speaker 1: Smith doesn't go. But beyond that, I mean, you still
Speaker 1: got Travis Frederick, you still got Zack Martin and then
Speaker 1: Lul Collins, all very accomplished players and have been in
Speaker 1: solidified in that scheme for a number of years. That's
Speaker 1: busy work for Kenny Clark and Dean Lowry in that
Speaker 1: defensive front and on the other side of it, depending
Speaker 1: on what happens with Brian Bala, how the Packers handle
Speaker 1: what they're gonna be thrown at. From the Cowboys perspective,
Speaker 1: I just think probably one on one matchups wise, Um,
Speaker 1: seeing exactly what happens with Kevin King this week and
Speaker 1: where that's going to be at and soft tissue injuries
Speaker 1: are so tricky as we know, and we've talked about
Speaker 1: it so often. Um, if he's unable to go, depending
Speaker 1: on what's happened with Will Redmond, that's where it starts
Speaker 1: a little sticky, because then you're really getting into your depth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well quickly before we go, I just want to get
Speaker 1: your overall take on where you think this Cowboys team is,
Speaker 1: because there was so much talk last week as they're
Speaker 1: heading into New Orleans for a tough prime time assignment
Speaker 1: at the Super Dome Sunday Night football and all that
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys were three and oh, but they had
Speaker 1: beaten three teams the Giants before the Giants went to
Speaker 1: their rookie quarterback and Daniel Jones, who's helped turn things
Speaker 1: around for them a little bit. They beat Washington, they
Speaker 1: beat Miami, two teams that don't have any victories yet
Speaker 1: through the first quarter of the season, and then the Saints.
Speaker 1: Obviously we're without Drew Brees. But the Cowboys didn't get
Speaker 1: the job done. They scored only ten points in a
Speaker 1: in a tough road game. So all those questions about, okay,
Speaker 1: just how for real, so to speak, are the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys in twenty nineteen. They're still kind of hanging out there.
Speaker 1: What do you think? It's funny? So you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a big m m A guy, right, yea, yeah, So
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Speaker 1: Once become a professional writer, you don't go right to
Speaker 1: the UFC. You do this regional promotions, right, and a
Speaker 1: lot of times on these regional promotions you're taking on
Speaker 1: guys who are five and twenty eight or you know,
Speaker 1: zero and six, and you're kind of building up your
Speaker 1: resume in a way. I kind of view that is
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys were doing those first three weeks of
Speaker 1: the season. They looked great. They did everything they were
Speaker 1: supposed to do against teams they were supposed to be.
Speaker 1: They were supposed to hammer the Giants, they did. They
Speaker 1: were supposed to hammer Washington they did. And certainly we
Speaker 1: know the story right now with the Miami Dolphins. Now,
Speaker 1: that game, as I was saying last week, if Marv
Speaker 1: would be able to replay the film, I was saying,
Speaker 1: that was the big litmus test for them against the
Speaker 1: Saints going into New Orleans. And you can view that
Speaker 1: one of two ways. You can view it as you
Speaker 1: only it up ten points against the Saints, or you
Speaker 1: could view it that you were the first team to
Speaker 1: not concede a touchdown to a Sean Payton offense in
Speaker 1: the Superdome I think during his entire tenure, at least
Speaker 1: during a Saints victory. So you kind of get a
Speaker 1: little of both. I think the one thing I learned
Speaker 1: is that their defense, they can win games with their
Speaker 1: defense if they have to. YEA, it didn't work out
Speaker 1: from in that game, but I mean they are very dynamic,
Speaker 1: especially with how they played together. But it's interesting because
Speaker 1: they have this game against the Packers and then you're
Speaker 1: going up against the Jets who have a lot of issues,
Speaker 1: and then you really got a big, you know, test
Speaker 1: against the Eagles. I think we're gonna learn a lot
Speaker 1: of but we're gonna learn about a lot about Green Bay. Two.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna learn a lot about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: in this game. Yeah. Well, I think the NFC East
Speaker 1: from what we've seen so far, I mean, maybe Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones really starts to light the world on fire and
Speaker 1: with se Kwon Barkley and everything really starts to go
Speaker 1: in another direction for the Giants. But I think, based
Speaker 1: on what we've seen so far, the Eagles and the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are gonna be duking this out for the NFC
Speaker 1: East championship, right for the NFC East title. The Packers
Speaker 1: already got a taste of the Eagles. They came in
Speaker 1: here licking some of their wounds a little bit, and uh,
Speaker 1: and they took care of business against Green Bay. Now
Speaker 1: a Cowboys team is is licking some of its wounds.
Speaker 1: But yet the Packers are now in that same in
Speaker 1: that same boat where you know the momentum, that early
Speaker 1: season momentum, has worn off a little bit. The winning
Speaker 1: streak is over. Now you gotta you gotta dust yourself
Speaker 1: off and get back to it. This is you know,
Speaker 1: you don't want to put too much emphasis, obviously on
Speaker 1: a Week five game, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: one of these teams is going to be four and
Speaker 1: one and one of them is going to be three
Speaker 1: and two, and it's gonna be a big shift in
Speaker 1: the way things look as we head towards the middle
Speaker 1: of the season in the NFC, the whole the overall
Speaker 1: NFC pictures. Well, and Mike, let's just take away the
Speaker 1: records even for a minute. If you're the Green Bay
Speaker 1: Packers and you beat the Chicago Bears, I mean, we
Speaker 1: saw how Minnesota looked at Soldier Field. If you beat
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears on their turf, that's a big whim,
Speaker 1: that's a big feather in your cap. They you go
Speaker 1: down to a T and T stadium, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: spoiler alert history. Notice Aaron Rodgers had a lot of
Speaker 1: success there. If you get that victory, it's not even
Speaker 1: about the four one record, it's the fact that you've
Speaker 1: picked up two big road wins in the conference against
Speaker 1: teams perceived to be contenders. So I think that's the
Speaker 1: biggest storyline here. But as you also pointed out, there
Speaker 1: is a big difference between being four and one in
Speaker 1: three and two, especially in this conference right now where
Speaker 1: there is so many teams kind of in that lock cham.
Speaker 1: So I just I think it's gonna be a great atmosphere,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fun game to watch, and again,
Speaker 1: I just I see so much being on the line
Speaker 1: for a Week five matchup. Obviously, take everything with a
Speaker 1: grain of salt because things can change quickly in this league.
Speaker 1: But I just I really do believe that this thing
Speaker 1: is can really establish a solid contender who prevails in
Speaker 1: this matchup. Well, if you want drama, Packers Cowboys at
Speaker 1: a T and T stadium, it always brings it right,
Speaker 1: whether you're talking the Matt Flynn comeback game, playoff game
Speaker 1: that goes right down to the wire, or the regular
Speaker 1: season game that goes right down to the wire. So
Speaker 1: you know, history says this one's going to be a
Speaker 1: pretty exciting ball game and we'll see how it chakes out.
Speaker 1: Funny bring up too, because I think that three or
Speaker 1: whatever that was and at the half, one of the
Speaker 1: more remarkable comebacks, obviously without having Aaron Rodgers. Matt Flynn
Speaker 1: played out of his mind in that second half. Eddie
Speaker 1: Lacey looked phenomenal. It's it's amazing when you actually do,
Speaker 1: like start to look at the totality of these last
Speaker 1: four or five years, Packers have actually had some pretty
Speaker 1: big wins, notwithstanding the Super Bowl, but actually against the
Speaker 1: you know, the Dallas Cowboys on their own turf. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have actually had more success coming in here
Speaker 1: to Lambo than they have against the Packers in their
Speaker 1: own buildings. So you wonder if that's in the back
Speaker 1: of their minds as well. But with that we will
Speaker 1: sign off on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure
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