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Speaker 1: M Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting next to my partner in crime,

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Speaker 1: Wes Hodkowits were coming to you here from our studios

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Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and West. It is Wednesday, our midweek show,

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Speaker 1: and that means we take a look at the Packers

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Speaker 1: upcoming opponent in a little bit more detail, and that

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Speaker 1: of course is the Dallas Cowboys. It'll be a PM

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Speaker 1: kickoff Sunday from a T and T Stadium down there

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Speaker 1: in Texas. And you know, we always start these examinations

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Speaker 1: of the opponent with the guy who sort of jumps

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Speaker 1: off the page is where it all starts. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's pretty obvious with the Dallas Cowboys. And certainly

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Speaker 1: when you look at what happened to the how Boys

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Speaker 1: last week and how they lost to the New Orleans Saints,

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Speaker 1: it all starts with Ezekiel Elliott with this team, doesn't

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Speaker 1: it it? Does? You know? Danny Vitali had those uh

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Speaker 1: you know, make fullbacks great again hats. I don't turn

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Speaker 1: this into the whole political thing, but I thought it

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Speaker 1: was kind of cute, you know, with fullbacks. If I

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Speaker 1: kind of had to go through Ezekiel Elliott. For me personally,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how about the outside world feels about this.

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Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott changed my perspective on the running back position

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Speaker 1: because there was a time, probably as recently as five

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Speaker 1: years ago, where I was like, I wonder if we've

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Speaker 1: seen the last time we're going to see a running

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Speaker 1: back taken in the first round, you know, just because

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Speaker 1: there's sort of been this devaluation of the position, and

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Speaker 1: thoughts said, okay, well, you can find these guys in

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Speaker 1: the fourth, fifth, sixth round, undrafted free agents. The Alfred

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Speaker 1: Morris is the world. You can find your franchise running

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Speaker 1: back anywhere. And then you see a guy like Zeke

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Speaker 1: Elliott come into the league and just flip everything on

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Speaker 1: its head. I think it now see Quon Barkley, this

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Speaker 1: new guard at the running back position, and I'll say this,

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Speaker 1: personally speaking, it's very difficult with you know, this new

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Speaker 1: to kind of get what they feel their value is.

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for how Zeke Elliott

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Speaker 1: approached the situation this offseason. Kudos to Dallas for recognizing

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Speaker 1: this is our franchise player. We have to take care

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Speaker 1: of him. Everything we're going to talk about here in

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Speaker 1: the next twenty minutes, Mike, it starts at Zeke Elliott.

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Speaker 1: The passing game, the momentum, the just the confidence of

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Speaker 1: this unit and how they play together. Starts with what

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Speaker 1: he does in the backfield. Yeah, I mean, it all

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Speaker 1: stems off of that. And there's a reason, quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: that Zeke Elliott got a contract extension before Marie Cooper did,

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Speaker 1: before Dak Prescott did. I mean, this is the guy

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Speaker 1: just no way to replace him. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: now they do have a nice prospect here and Tony

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Speaker 1: Pollard that they brought in. He you know, he's had

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Speaker 1: a carries and looks does some nice things. But you

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Speaker 1: have to understand, and you know, the way that this

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Speaker 1: offense is set up, and and credit to Kellen Moore

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Speaker 1: and the job that those offensive coaches are doing right now,

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Speaker 1: but everything is set up on Zeke Elliott in making

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Speaker 1: defenses commit to stopping him, the play actually game of

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, the downfield passing options for Marik Poper. It

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Speaker 1: all starts with Elliott and I just I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: the numbers are not huge. It's not going to be

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Speaker 1: the six yards per carry average that you know, it's

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Speaker 1: does he remind me a lot of you know, when

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Speaker 1: down over four quarters, Elliott brings that dimension. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think the question with Zeke Elliott heading into this

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Speaker 1: not even not even two yards per carry with essentially

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Speaker 1: So my question to you is West, does this just

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Speaker 1: a gut check for both of these units. Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 1: I think That's what makes this matchup really intriguing because

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Speaker 1: Now he's missed the last two contests. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: We're gonna find out this week. The nice think about

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Speaker 1: there is so many teams kind of in that lock cham.

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Speaker 1: So I just I think it's gonna be a great atmosphere,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fun game to watch, and again,

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Speaker 1: I just I see so much being on the line

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Speaker 1: grain of salt because things can change quickly in this league.

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Speaker 1: But I just I really do believe that this thing

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Speaker 1: this matchup. Well, if you want drama, Packers Cowboys at

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Speaker 1: a T and T stadium, it always brings it right,

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Speaker 1: whether you're talking the Matt Flynn comeback game, playoff game

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Speaker 1: season game that goes right down to the wire. So

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Speaker 1: you know, history says this one's going to be a

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Speaker 1: pretty exciting ball game and we'll see how it chakes out.

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Speaker 1: Funny bring up too, because I think that three or

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Speaker 1: Lacey looked phenomenal. It's it's amazing when you actually do,

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Speaker 1: like start to look at the totality of these last

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Speaker 1: four or five years, Packers have actually had some pretty

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Speaker 1: big wins, notwithstanding the Super Bowl, but actually against the

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Speaker 1: you know, the Dallas Cowboys on their own turf. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys have actually had more success coming in here

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Speaker 1: to Lambo than they have against the Packers in their

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Speaker 1: own buildings. So you wonder if that's in the back

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Speaker 1: of their minds as well. But with that we will

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Speaker 1: sign off on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure

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Speaker 1: will see you next time. M hmm.