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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Previously

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Speaker 1: on stuff they don't want you to know? Ben, did

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Speaker 1: you see this letter we got from DARPA, A letter

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Speaker 1: from Dark Yet It says, where's the rest of the

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Speaker 1: that dramatic music playing? And welcome back to stuff they

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Speaker 1: don't want you to know. This is part two of

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Speaker 1: our DARPA episode. Uh, Matt, how are you feeling about this?

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling pretty good. We've looked at a little bit

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Speaker 1: of the history. We're gonna get a little deeper now

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Speaker 1: have to admit, man, when we talked about DARPA, there's

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Speaker 1: And and basically the gist is that space age quote

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Speaker 1: And uh, we can't talk about DARPA unless we talk

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