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Speaker 3: I changed my whole life for him, and now we're done.

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Speaker 3: It's over. I twenty five female, moved from X state

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Speaker 3: to Y state, let's say California to Tennessee because my boyfriend,

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Speaker 3: twenty four male, got a position here. Unfortunately, there were

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Speaker 3: zero job openings in my field, so I took a

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Speaker 3: job as a nanny instead. I have been with my

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Speaker 3: boyfriend nearly two years. When I got here, I promised

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Speaker 3: the bosses forties female and male aka the parents, that

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Speaker 3: I would be able to be their nanny for a year,

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Speaker 3: But after the year, I wasn't sure. By the way,

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Speaker 3: this comes from leaving for Florida. And if you want

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Speaker 3: Okay Storytime Separate it. I'm Sophia, I'm Riley, and I'm

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Speaker 3: key On, and we're here to give good advice goofily,

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Speaker 3: but we don't have all the answers. We only know

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Speaker 3: what we do, so let us know what you'd do

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Speaker 3: in the comments.

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Speaker 4: But Op says first and foremost, I like how Op's

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Speaker 4: name puts the state, and yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well that's presumably that's where they want to go.

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Speaker 1: Oh got it?

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Speaker 3: Not where they are?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that's z state.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I have only been with them for five months. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: I am one hundred percent going to leave my boyfriend

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Speaker 3: and I do not want to stay in this.

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Speaker 1: Location Tennessee's okay.

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Speaker 3: My relative said I could stay with her until I

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Speaker 3: find a job or housing, and I already have found

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Speaker 3: and applied to ten plus jobs in my field in

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Speaker 3: her area. Here's my dilemma. I already know I'm going

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Speaker 3: to leave. I know I want to give my bosses

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Speaker 3: my s O what Oh, you don't want to get

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Speaker 3: into it. But basically, he won't let me break up

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Speaker 3: with him, so I'm just gonna leave while he's at work.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like a safe situation. Honestly, the only

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Speaker 3: thing that has kept me here the last few months

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Speaker 3: is this job. I have fallen in love with the

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Speaker 3: kids and enjoy it. Unfortunately, I hate everything else in

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Speaker 3: my cannot afford me an apartment on my own, and

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Speaker 3: really I want to pursue an actual career. I just

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Speaker 3: feel so bad about telling them i'd be with them

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Speaker 3: a year and then around halfway through say I have

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Speaker 3: to leave. I have become somewhat friends with the parents

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Speaker 3: and have even gone out with the mom for a

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Speaker 3: social event about a month ago. I need help with

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Speaker 3: the wording right now. I just feel like I'm ultimately

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Speaker 3: letting them down and pulling the rug from under them.

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Speaker 3: Both parents work full time and they have four kids,

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Speaker 3: some of which have autism, ADHD and MS, so definitely

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Speaker 3: some special needs there. Please can someone help me in

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Speaker 3: some way, as in I plan to take the mom

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Speaker 3: aside tomorrow off to work. How can I phrase it?

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Speaker 3: What should I say?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I feel scared and embarrassed and guilty and there are

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Speaker 3: some comments, But what do you think OP should do?

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Speaker 1: The truth? Yeah, this person has created relationship with you

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Speaker 1: outside of the confounds of you working for her m HM,

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Speaker 1: and she'll understand. She'll probably work with you on getting

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Speaker 3: Quicker too, You guys said that, you know you said

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Speaker 3: that you guys were friends. I feel like, just be

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Speaker 3: as honest as you can say you know, I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I never intended to leave early kind of circumstances have changed, though.

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Speaker 3: I will help you find a like a replacement. All that.

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Speaker 1: And if you can't get out and they're like, no,

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Speaker 1: we won't let you leave, you got to leave for yourself.

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Speaker 1: Was there a contract you signed? Can you get out

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Speaker 1: of it?

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Speaker 3: Comment one. I think being as honest as possible is

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Speaker 3: the best way you can go. Just tell the mom

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Speaker 3: how you feel that you're sorry and so worried to disappoint,

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Speaker 3: yoursso and we'll be moving home or wherever. A month's

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Speaker 3: notice is very generous if you are in any way

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Speaker 3: in an unsafe situation with yours, oh, and need to

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Speaker 3: go sooner than do it. You're saying he won't let

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Speaker 3: you break up with him sounds like a red flag.

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Speaker 3: Your safety and well being our paramount. As a mother

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Speaker 3: who has had nanni's and babysitters, move on to do

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Speaker 3: bigger and better things. I was always sad but very

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Speaker 3: gracious when things like this happened. Good luck and please

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Speaker 3: take care of your well being above all else. Oh,

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Speaker 3: he says he isn't physically harmful. I will say that otherwise.

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Speaker 3: He's very manipulative and perhaps harmful in other ways. But

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Speaker 3: if I ignore him and spend my free time in

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Speaker 3: the bedroom, he'll ignore me right back, which is how

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Speaker 3: my life has been for a while. I have to

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Speaker 3: force him to spend any time with me, and whenever

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Speaker 3: I try to talk to him about something, it turns

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Speaker 3: into an argument.

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Speaker 1: Dude, why are there so many guys? She's useless? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what happened? What happened to America? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: It's Steve Harvey.

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Speaker 4: No, and is it Andrew Tate?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Andrew Tate said, the.

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Speaker 1: Guy that's bald in your mind?

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Speaker 1: Is beautiful?

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Thank you very much for the advice. It helps

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Speaker 3: me to hear from someone who has had nanny's in

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Speaker 3: the past. I think she would appreciate me being fully honest.

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Speaker 3: She's a very empathetic and genuine person and I like

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Speaker 3: her a lot, which is pretty much why it's hard

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Speaker 3: to leave. But I'll try to keep in mind that

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Speaker 3: she will understand and reply. Says side note, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: To Florida. Remember that you come first in all this.

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Speaker 3: When you're ready to leave, give the mom notice, just

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Speaker 3: sit her down and tell her what you told us.

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Speaker 3: It's very reasonable. Opie says, thanks. I love how I

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Speaker 3: tried to keep vague about the locations in the post,

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Speaker 3: but gave myself away with my username. Oops. Comment two says,

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Speaker 3: as a parent who had a nanny, is there some

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Speaker 3: way you can find a substitute nanny for them? Which

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Speaker 3: is yeah what I was saying. That would make a

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Speaker 3: world of difference. When our nanny left us on two

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Speaker 3: weeks notice, it was a real scramble to find alternative childcare.

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Speaker 3: If you can find a replacement and maybe even do

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Speaker 3: a gradual transition from you to her, it'll be so

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Speaker 3: helpful to them. Replies says, how would she go about

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Speaker 3: doing this in any way that is different from how

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Speaker 3: thought selection of a nanny was usually more formal than

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Speaker 3: asking someone inexperience to find you a sub I am

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Speaker 3: sure she's lovely, but I can't say I take my

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Speaker 3: new nanny's inexperienced suggestion for a replacement nanny. They don't

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Speaker 3: even know themselves, knowing my current nanny is going through

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Speaker 3: some stuff I can't even imagine even asking. Reply says, yes,

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Speaker 3: this is a little ridiculous. I very much doubt they're

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Speaker 3: paying her to find, hire and train your replacement money

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Speaker 3: if she can't even afford an apartment where they live.

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Speaker 3: Opie says, Unfortunately, I don't know anyone in the area

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Speaker 3: full time nurse. They actually found me and I them

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Speaker 3: through a well known nanny search site. However, I would

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Speaker 3: or train my replacement.

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Speaker 1: Dude, that would be a world of difference. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: I mean, I get what those commenters are saying and

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Speaker 3: do think it's nice to offer, like say, yeah, I'll

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Speaker 3: help you with whatever transition you need, but there's an update.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any thoughts?

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Speaker 1: Dude? Twelve year olds these days can do really good

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Speaker 1: at babysitting. Well back in the day they could. I

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Speaker 1: don't know about these days. They might be iPad kids. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, good luck. I don't know. I think she'll

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Speaker 1: take it well. My prediction is she's gonna take it well.

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Speaker 3: I think, so move on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it'll be all right, especially if you

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Speaker 4: explained the situation. Yeah, I don't see any outcome, or

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Speaker 3: I don't think she'd be like, you have to stay here.

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Speaker 4: You're blinded to us.

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Speaker 3: I know you're in a bad situation, but you gotta stay. Update.

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Speaker 3: I did talk to my mom two nights ago. I

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Speaker 3: waited until her work was over. I work based on

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Speaker 3: her hours, not the dads, but I also feel more

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Speaker 3: comfortable talking to her. I took the advice of a

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Speaker 3: lot of people on the original post and was just

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Speaker 3: is all true. Her response was as expected, surprised but understanding.

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Speaker 3: It was great?

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Speaker 3: Do you have any final thoughts? I think it all

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Speaker 1: It was just like damage control, get a lookout for herself. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which if someone came up to me, I gotta leave town,

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Speaker 1: it's not Well, maybe OP didn't present it in that way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm wondering if she just didn't say, like specifically

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Speaker 3: like I've got to leave my partner because it's bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we don't know exactly.

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Speaker 1: How she said it, but and you know, everything was

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Speaker 1: in good timing. I think you were meant to leave now.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm, I agree.

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Speaker 4: I think it was a ninety nine percent of op

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Speaker 4: knew like she's gonna understand, but it's that one percent

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Speaker 4: that like eats at her. She's like, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 4: think that one percent. If she says no can ruin everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I have a friend news and Nannie and

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Speaker 3: you know who has like critiques about things. But it's like,

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Speaker 3: don't want to leave them in a lurch and stuff.

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Speaker 3: So you feel guilty. Yeah, to the more negative side,

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Speaker 4: She's breastfeeding the baby front airbag.

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Speaker 1: After I left, she sat on the sofa and front

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Speaker 4: She's taking place like you could get You could get.

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Speaker 1: He had refused my front airbag but latched onto her.

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Speaker 1: She never went to get formula or solids for him,

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Speaker 1: When he uttered it, she said, that's my good boy.

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Speaker 1: He kissed him. I felt crazy. This one is razy.

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Speaker 3: Yike, that's a bit. Jail.

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Speaker 1: Why why jail?

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Speaker 3: She's crazy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. Does she even have kids?

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Speaker 4: This is her kid, she has kids in her head,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I am a mom to your kid.

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Speaker 4: To your kid, you're the babysitter.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. Yeah, I'm literally immediately pleased. I'd be like,

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Speaker 1: Jail, what do you even do?

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Speaker 3: You could sue this woman's absolute under.

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Speaker 1: Good ser I fired her immediately.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, as you should.

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Speaker 1: God, dude, this is crazy. She breastfed my son without

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Speaker 1: It seemed far, but she agreed. She emitted pouring my

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Speaker 1: I had my baby checked right away. Nothing seems wrong,

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Speaker 3: She literally tried to take your place. Oh, this is

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Speaker 4: She's trying to become you.

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Speaker 3: She's trying to become you.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I suspect she took my baby outside multiple times.

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Speaker 3: Well she's she could be, because someone in that I

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Speaker 1: She might have a milking business something like that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you can.

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Speaker 1: Where you where you stimulate your your Why do you

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about how she probably doesn't have a kid,

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Speaker 3: I know, but I'm saying, you're just adding more.

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Speaker 1: You're saying this is how she got Like.

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Speaker 3: Sure, sure, okay, yep, yeah, all right?

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Speaker 1: Then what keon? Do you not research on how you

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Speaker 3: Not me?

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Speaker 1: Maybe you should.

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Speaker 4: I should get baby formula eleven? But not me? Are

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Speaker 4: you trying to you know what? I love you? Just stop?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 3: Then?

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Speaker 4: You be you, man, You be you.

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Speaker 1: I'm consulting a lawyer about pressing charges. My mom is

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Speaker 1: I'll work to reconnect and move past this. Mothers, please

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Speaker 1: be careful about who watches your children. People say it

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Speaker 1: isn't my fault, but it feels like it is, so

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Speaker 3: Like babysitting apps where they have to be vetted and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it isn't your fault.

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Speaker 3: You didn't know, and the second that you found out,

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Speaker 1: Comment Number one. Take time with your baby, but you

442
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Speaker 1: shouldn't minimize the situation. You need to contact a doctor

443
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Speaker 1: in case she can give him something through the milk. Also,

444
00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,359
Speaker 1: you should also contact the police. Big Yes, she is

445
00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:22,359
Speaker 1: crazy and could do that to others, So press charges now, agreed?

446
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and definitely Yeah, make sure that like everyone knows

447
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,760
Speaker 3: on Facebook, be like this person name blah blah blah

448
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,080
Speaker 3: did this to my kid.

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00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely let it out there asap, coming too, I

450
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,119
Speaker 1: would call the police. That has to be illegal. Reply,

451
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,440
Speaker 1: Hey to be that guy because I'm equally disgusted by

452
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,960
Speaker 1: this story and came to the comments hoping a lawyer

453
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Speaker 1: had chimed in. But what exactly would the charge be?

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00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,800
Speaker 1: Feeding it a hungry child. I hope ope finds something

455
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,679
Speaker 1: to charge her with and lands like the hammer of

456
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Speaker 1: thor because what the babysitter did was a violation of

457
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Speaker 1: trust and of Opie's family, exactly what Opie said. But

458
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Speaker 1: I'm at a loss as to what would even be

459
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,120
Speaker 1: illegal and moral? Yes if thing evil, yes, but illegal.

460
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 1: This is totally fed up situation, and I hope Opie

461
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Speaker 1: gets justice. I just don't see what the legal system

462
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Speaker 1: could do. I hope I'm wrong and a lawyer has

463
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 1: chimed in somewhere saying do this, But I don't know, there's.

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Speaker 3: No way that that's not illegal. There's no I would

465
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Speaker 3: be shocked. I would be shocked if that wasn't illegal.

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Speaker 3: That's putting a that's yeah.

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Speaker 1: Is it illegal to breastfeed someone that's not my child

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Speaker 1: without the consent of the mother?

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Speaker 3: I mean just the fact that it involves being partially

470
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Speaker 3: like unclothed.

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Speaker 1: Breast feed a child that's not mine without the consent

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Speaker 1: of another mother. Okay, Yes, it can be illegal and

473
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Speaker 1: is generally discouraged to breastfeed a child discourage the consent

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Speaker 1: of the mother due to potential health risk and legal ramifications. Yeah,

475
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Speaker 1: as the act can be considered authorized touching or a

476
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Speaker 1: child in exagerates it's.

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Speaker 3: Literally it involves being unclothed in front of a child

478
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Speaker 3: that is not your child. Obviously that's illegal. I don't

479
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 3: know what that commentary is thinking, Oh, moral, not illegal?

480
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 3: What do you mean it's not illegal? That's so obviously illegal.

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Speaker 1: All right, update the last twenty days, a lot has happened.

482
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Speaker 1: My baby is okay after an in depth analysis, which

483
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Speaker 1: relieves me. But that is only the good news. Just

484
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 1: take a moment.

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Speaker 3: That's the only good news. It's just everything else is bad.

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00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just take a moment.

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Speaker 4: That's why we started with the bad news first.

488
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, a sandwich. I prefer good news, bad news, good news, whatever.

489
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Speaker 1: There's more of lead with the less amount. If there's

490
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Speaker 1: more good news, lead with the bad news.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, let's sear the bad news.

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Speaker 1: I spoke to a lawyer and the police. But in

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Speaker 1: my country there is no laws against front airbag feeding

494
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Speaker 1: someone else's child without consent unless disease is knowingly transmitted.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy. How are there no laws against that?

496
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Speaker 1: The disease? How can you make up? One doctor? Can you?

497
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Speaker 1: Can you do something? Here's twenty bucks? What can you do?

498
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 1: No law diagnose?

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Speaker 3: That's insane.

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Speaker 1: It also isn't a harmful act because my baby cannot testify.

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00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: What the baby can google? Gaga, Mama, that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: If anything, well, here's the scary part because if the

503
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Speaker 4: baby does testify in a way, he knows how the

504
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 4: same mama with the babysitter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's like see see, and they're like, well,

506
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Speaker 3: this child is that woman's mother.

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Speaker 1: That's up to the stage.

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00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,880
Speaker 4: Mother, Mama, Mama, point to your mother, say mama, when

509
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Speaker 4: we show pictures of the babysitter.

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Speaker 3: Not great not great.

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00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: I show the tastes, but they said he willingly accepted

512
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 1: her front airbag. What I feel powerless and I'm still

513
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Speaker 1: talking to my lawyer. But the chances are very low.

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00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Their excuse was, well, he seemed to like it.

515
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 3: He's a baby.

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Speaker 4: I you know what country this is, because this is crazy.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy. I'm sorry. Hear me up, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: This country cannibalism of like if you feed a chicken chicken,

519
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: well the chicken ate the chicken, chicken ate it.

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Speaker 3: That's what it sounds like. It's literally a while that

521
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 3: chicken liked it. What's wrong with that?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: It's like in the show Hannibal. If Hannibal's defense when

524
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 3: they were like, you fed a bunch of people human meat,

525
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 3: and he was like, well they liked it.

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Speaker 1: Would that happen?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the show Hannibal. The whole show is basically

528
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 3: him like feeding people human meat, but like he's a

529
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Speaker 3: really good cook, and they're like, wow, this is delicious.

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Speaker 3: And so if at the end of the show, I've

531
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Speaker 3: actually only seen a couple episodes, but if at the

532
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Speaker 3: end of the show he was like, well they liked

533
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 3: my food. So what's the issue here? Oh my god,

534
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 3: that would be crazy.

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00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, would they make a show about that it's

536
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Speaker 1: so dark?

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Speaker 3: Or being like, you know what? Another thing, if a

538
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: teacher groomed like beause someone said this, and if a

539
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 3: teacher groomed a like a student at like in Pretty

540
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 3: Little Liars, that girl is in a relationship with her teacher.

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Speaker 3: I've also never seen Pretty Little Liars like the student

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00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 3: she has a relationship with her teacher and she's obviously

543
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 3: she's into it. So if their excuse was oh well, no,

544
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 3: I wanted to be on that, like, no, this excuse

545
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 3: makes no sense. I hate that you have a bad lawyer.

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00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 4: Your country's weird.

547
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, no offense, All right, let's get back.

548
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm so bothered by this. Oh man.

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00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 3: So if someone kidnaps a baby and the baby's like

550
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 3: chill with it, that's fine too.

551
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 4: That's on the baby.

552
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, the baby Willamy's fault.

553
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 4: That's literally baby went with that person.

554
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: Low key.

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00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: I feel like this judge is gonna be like the like, well,

556
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: let's just decide who the baby wants to go with.

557
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 3: The Baby's like ah mam to the babysitter, and the

558
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 3: judge is like, well, baby wants to be with that lady,

559
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 3: So sorry, OPI can't have your baby and I guarantee you.

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00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 4: The court would be like, will you let her babysit?

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00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,239
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, let's find out what out I need to know.

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00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 1: I spoke to her again to confirm what she did.

563
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: She admitted taking my son out often using the carrier

564
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: or stroller front air bag, feeding him in public, and

565
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: taking him on car trips for errands more than a

566
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Speaker 1: dozen times. She said there was nothing wrong with it.

567
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Speaker 1: She admitted passing my baby office hers because as it

568
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: was simpler when talking to other moms. She confirmed showering

569
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: in my room and resting the baby on my bed,

570
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: saying she didn't remember my rule. She claims she borrowed

571
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: my bra and underwear and put them in the laundry,

572
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: which I never found. When I asked why, she said

573
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Speaker 1: my son needed a real caring mother like her, that

574
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 1: a mother who works most of the week is not

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Speaker 1: enough and I would never be enough. I ended the call.

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Speaker 3: Yikes, she's crazy, du Lulu crazy crazy.

577
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 1: I tried warning other mothers on Facebook, but posts were

578
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: removed for defamation and hate speech. My mom is helping

579
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: things are getting back to normal, but I feel powerless.

580
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: I plan to start therapy when I can. My son

581
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: still doesn't seem at ease with me, and he won't

582
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: latch on at all. It hurts, but I need to

583
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: be strong for him. Thank you for reading my venting.

584
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: I hope nothing like this ever happens to any mother.

585
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: We have another update.

586
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 3: Oh man, oh, I need to know.

587
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: This is why we have another update. I remember the title.

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00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 4: Oh oh no, oh ooh.

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00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 3: Uh oh ming Minx is hopefully you recorded that? OPI Yeah,

591
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 3: I hope, so, I really freaking hope. So yeah, Kim

592
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: Fine says she's LARPing as you.

593
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 4: Ope, she's gonna change her name to your ni.

594
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably probably gonna have like an identity fraud case

595
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 3: going on here.

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00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: You yikes, I'm scared.

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00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 3: I'm scared, op, So you need to get a better lawyer.

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00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 4: That's the thing, though, it's not it's not the lawyer's fault.

599
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: This is the country's literal like laws. There are no

601
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Speaker 4: laws for this.

602
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: Oh, she's laws. Where do you live? And why has

603
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: this not ever happened before? Where you live?

604
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 4: Because I hope the main reasons because it's never happened.

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Speaker 1: Before ah hopefully Update two, I started therapy straight away.

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Speaker 1: As of now, I'm still attending with the help of antidepressants.

607
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: Unfortunately they are the only thing keeping me straight in

608
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: the situation. I made a couple of posts a while

609
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Speaker 1: ago describing what happened with my former babysitter, and after

610
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Speaker 1: two months in therapy, she filed a petition for a

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Speaker 1: third party child custody rights.

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00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 4: Uh.

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00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: Mind blown when I was notified of such an event

614
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: and thought it could never happen. But from a legal standpoint,

615
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: she's using the fact that she was my son's babysitter

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00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: for seven days a week from eight am to eight

617
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 1: pm for five months before getting unjustly fired and is

618
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Speaker 1: filing for extreme neglect on my part.

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Speaker 3: That is such a whoa. I'm sorry if you live

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Speaker 3: in a country where this lady is able to get

621
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Speaker 3: your child after this claim.

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00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 4: Move, that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: That would be insane.

624
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 4: You was hired as a baby hired.

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00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 3: As a babysitter, you were paying her presumably, and then

626
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 3: you fired her because one she went against your rules

627
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 3: of don't go into my bedroom and also was breastfeeding

628
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: your baby. I guess your consent.

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Speaker 4: This is actually legit wild.

630
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 3: That is insane weird. That would be insane.

631
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: Ever ever, ever, ever heard of a story?

632
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 3: If your country allows this at.

633
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: What where do you live? This is completely false, but

634
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: it's proof. She's using text messages. I wrote to her

635
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: at different times after eight pm that was coming back

636
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: home in half an hour or so, sometimes even on Saturdays.

637
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: This happened five or six times, since I worked overtime

638
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: in extreme cases. But since we never signed any contract

639
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: or registered slash texted the details, I have no proof

640
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 1: to demonstrate that this wasn't real. Also, she's using the

641
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: fact that she didn't have a regular work contract to

642
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: her advantage, showing proof of deposits to her bank account

643
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: every month. For me, I feel so stupid because I'm

644
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: the one who proposed avoiding cash and using bank transfers

645
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: since I usually keep tracked of all my expenses that way.

646
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 3: Wait, why do you feel stupid? That's perfect? Do you

647
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: have proof that you were paying her to have a job,

648
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 3: a job that was babysitting for your child.

649
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: She's even using the fact that I'm on antidepressants to

650
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,959
Speaker 1: try and prove that I'm an unfit to be the

651
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: mother of my child. It's been like five months of this,

652
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: and a week ago I went to court for the

653
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: last time. I tried to rebuke every claim by proving

654
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: my work shifts. But I live on the countryside. It's

655
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: hard to prove that it came back home constantly at

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Speaker 1: five pm.

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00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if you came home late. If I'm

658
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: sorry the amount, like every literally almost every person that

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00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 3: I've ever babysat for, has come back late at some

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Speaker 3: time or other. And if I was able to go

661
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Speaker 3: to court and say, well, they came back late so

662
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Speaker 3: I should be able to parent their children, that would

663
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Speaker 3: be insane.

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Speaker 1: I tried asking my neighbors, but they couldn't testify in

665
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Speaker 1: my favorite since they couldn't be one hundred percent sure

666
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Speaker 1: what what neighbors are those your neighbors are like.

667
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 3: M You're like you going to your neighbors and you're like, hey,

668
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: my babysitters trying to steal my baby. Can you say something?

669
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Speaker 3: And they're like, I don't know, man.

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Speaker 4: Are you sure that she's on the mother and you're

671
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 4: the baby sitter?

672
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we haven't seen you around.

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Speaker 1: The tapes were also of no use since, according to her,

674
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Speaker 1: we agreed her front airbag feeding him and she was

675
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: taking good care of him. Obviously false, But again I

676
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: had no proof. In two weeks, the judge will deliberate,

677
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: and my situation is looking really, really grim.

678
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Speaker 3: How you must have the worst lawyer in the world.

679
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 4: That makes no sense. How like if you have no proof, then.

680
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 3: How she's got no proof?

681
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, then how does she have proof of Like she said,

682
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Speaker 4: I can do this, I'm sorry if I.

683
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Speaker 3: Go to a judge and I say, yeah, I told

684
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Speaker 3: I fired it because she was breastfeeding my baby and

685
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Speaker 3: I didn't know, and then I got video footage of

686
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Speaker 3: her doing it, and then the babysitter goes, no, we

687
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: agreed on it. If I'm the judge and I'm not

688
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: a complete idiot, I'm going, oh, well, obviously this babysitter

689
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: is a liar. What how is this possibly in any world?

690
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Speaker 1: Grim for op, this is crazy.

691
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Speaker 4: This is again. I need to know what country.

692
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: This is, because you move out of that country.

693
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 4: This is insane if this is real.

694
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Speaker 3: Yeah, miskidicusses what about the police report that she tried

695
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Speaker 3: a vile.

696
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this feels like a nightmare. My antide presidants are

697
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: literally the only thing keeping me on my feet, along

698
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: with the support of my therapist and my mother, but

699
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: I'm going crazy with social soar or just keeping a

700
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: constant eye on my child and rushing in and out

701
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Speaker 1: of my house. It's stressing me out like crazy. I

702
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: feel like I don't have any chance in that I'm

703
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: losing my son forever. I don't even want to write

704
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: this here, but I don't want to stress my mother

705
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: or repeat this again and again to my therapist. I

706
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: feel like it's all my fault that I should have

707
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: taken a part time job instead of keeping a full

708
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: time one. I'm sorry this feels incoherent or like I'm rambling,

709
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: but I really really need to be listened to in

710
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: order to keep my sanity. I can't believe this is real.

711
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: Update three, Oh my gosh, where do you live?

712
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 4: This cannot be a real place.

713
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 3: Where do you live?

714
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: Is this actually real? Hannah says, I don't know anymore.

715
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: This is crazy.

716
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. I have nothing to say because I

717
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 3: need to know how this happens.

718
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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Update three, he's John og host.

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Speaker 2: We don't get back to the stories, but a quick

721
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: three minute break of ads from our sponsors.

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Speaker 1: A lot of editors in the past six months reached

723
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Speaker 1: out to me worried about my situation. Honestly, I don't

724
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: even want to give an update because I feel so

725
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: ashamed of myself that it's hard not to burst out crying.

726
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: The court's decision came through months ago, and it gets

727
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: every shred of hope I had. Custody of my song

728
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: was granted to my former babysitter.

729
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 3: What Everyone who was involved in that case should lose

730
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: their jobs. They should lose their jobs because how are

731
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 3: you giving taking custody away from a woman who is

732
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: literally going to work to provide a house and care

733
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Speaker 3: for her child. We have no proof that she has

734
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 3: provided any unsafe conditions for child, like that she's done

735
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 3: anything unsafe. The only unsafe thing that's happened is the babysitter.

736
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Speaker 3: This doesn't make sense. Miss Kittikat says she's a terriblelawyer.

737
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: If this is real, Yeah, yeah, she's got it. She

738
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: must have had a terrible lawyer if she lost custody

739
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 3: to her babysitter.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the former babysitter was in on everything, bribed.

741
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

742
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: Probably, here's my conspiracy theory. Babysitter found out she was

743
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: never gonna have kids on her own. Couldn't find a partner,

744
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: wasn't able to be pregnant, so to.

745
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: Stole a kid and stole kids literally kidnapping.

746
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: And found the way still this child and knew everything

747
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: because this is going so easy, and also the fact

748
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: that she's proving everything, she's such a villain.

749
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Speaker 3: Ming mag says, why would the babysitter have more claim

750
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: than the grandmother, who knows any other family member? That

751
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 3: doesn't make sense.

752
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, I feel like the baby, the babysitter planned

753
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: all this because she knows all the laws and was like, yeah,

754
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: I did this and that, Yeah, we agreed on this

755
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: on the first day.

756
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Speaker 3: I literally don't. I'm like, I don't believe this. I

757
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 3: can't believe this is real.

758
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Speaker 1: Legally, the decision was based on the extensive time my

759
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: son spent under her care, me being considered unfit due

760
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: to my antidepressant medicsane and the absence of a formal work.

761
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Speaker 3: Contract also insane.

762
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Speaker 1: The court perceived her daily involvement in my son's life

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Speaker 1: as taking on a parental role. They decided that she

764
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Speaker 1: was the one providing my son with emotional, physical, and

765
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: developmental needs, something they ruled I wasn't doing. Even if

766
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: I was working to provide for him. The court said

767
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Speaker 1: my working routine amounted to extreme neglect.

768
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Speaker 3: That's a lie. What are you talking about, really quick?

769
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Speaker 3: It's not neglect. If OPI is paying for a person

770
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Speaker 3: to care.

771
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Speaker 1: For her child, wait for them. She was the one

772
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: raising my son and to protect his welfare, she would

773
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: continue doing so. I was shattered.

774
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Speaker 5: This doesn't make sense. It's not neglect. If OPI was

775
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 5: literally paying someone to take care of her child so

776
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Speaker 5: that she could pay to have her child in a

777
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Speaker 5: safe environment and be cared for, she's literally going to

778
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Speaker 5: work to support her child.

779
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: This doesn't make any sense. These people are corrupt.

780
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: This is wild. The moment when they handed my son

781
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: over to her was beyond agony. She took him in

782
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: her arms, she kissed him like he was her world. Moreover,

783
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: my son immediately tried to unbutton her blouse to accept

784
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: her front airbags, something he never did with me. He

785
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: started crying like crazy when he couldn't manage while with

786
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: the babysitter looked at him with a loving smirk. I

787
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: think that was the moment I realized that for him,

788
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: I wasn't anything. I wasn't his mom wasn't family for him.

789
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: The babysitter was his mother. I can't describe what I felt,

790
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 1: other than realizing I worked full time and ultimately lost

791
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: my son to another woman. I felt defeated, and as

792
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: much as I hate to admit it, I accepted the defeat.

793
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: This is insane because no one was fighting for you.

794
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 3: This can't be true. I don't understand how this would

795
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 3: possibly happen.

796
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: How is this kid gonna grow up and find out.

797
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, like oh yeah, oh you're my babysitter. You stole

798
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: me from my mom.

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Speaker 4: Well, the thing is, the babysitter's gonna twist him like no,

800
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 4: no, no no. She was a terrible person. She was never

801
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 4: there for you. I'm your mother, what the heck?

802
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 1: Feeling so broken, I went to have a chat with her.

803
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: I asked her to please at least let me visit

804
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: my son and get updates on him. She accepted, but

805
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: with conditions. I cannot touch him or hold him. She

806
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: will hold him for the entire visit, and she will

807
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: be the one arranging the dates. I accepted out of

808
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: pure desperation. I don't know what got into me, but

809
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 1: after that, I held my tears and asked her why

810
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: she was so obsessed with my son that she even

811
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: took him away from me legally, She replied. She felt

812
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 1: I was unfit as a mother and that my baby

813
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: was so beautiful and needy that he needed a real

814
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: mother who could raise him properly. She's just saying that.

815
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: That's not really the reason.

816
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 4: I'm also very confused because she took that as a job.

817
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 4: What is her job? How is she supporting this baby

818
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 4: other than the time.

819
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 3: She doesn't have a job. She doesn't have a job.

820
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 3: She was doing that eight am to eight pm.

821
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 4: You were getting paid to take care of that baby.

822
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: She legally stole a baby and doesn't even have a

823
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: job to support the baby.

824
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 4: I don't I'm yeah, I'm so confused out this is crazy.

825
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: She said she loves breastfeeding and told me she loved

826
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: the sensation when she breastfad.

827
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 3: Well, that sounds really weird and icky.

828
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 1: It was something she never experienced with her daughter or

829
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: with other babies. She said, he just sucked her.

830
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 3: I don't like that. I hate that.

831
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: She says she liked it so much that she had

832
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: to become his mother. After that, I felt dizzy and

833
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm the venge of passing out. But she continued. She

834
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: told me not to worry about him because she will

835
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: do an amazing job raising him. She said she would

836
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: make him fully dependent on her, just like a good

837
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: baby should be with his mother, and she had no

838
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 1: intention of winning him off or stop breastfeeding. And since

839
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: he likes my front air bags and milk so much,

840
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: I don't think I'll ever stop. Those exact words still

841
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: echo in my head.

842
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: This can't be true. I's gotta be a fake story.

843
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 3: It's gotta because if the mom is saying all this,

844
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 3: or the babiesit are saying all this, I'm recording all

845
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 3: of it and going up judge freak alert.

846
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: That'll care, dude, Oh my gosh.

847
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: Oh.

848
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: She also said she doesn't trust school, so she would

849
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: homeschool him, just like she did with her daughter, and

850
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: she walked off, telling me I should leave the mother

851
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: roll to the better fitted one. After that, I draw

852
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 1: myself in work to avoid facing reality. I got most

853
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 1: of my social relations because it's hard to explain what happened.

854
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: I feel so ashamed, like I did everything wrong. The

855
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: only friends I kept along with my mother told me

856
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: I should fight to get my son back, but I'm

857
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: so broken mentally that he don't have the strength. I'm

858
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: also going to my therapist, but she doesn't seem to help.

859
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm relying on the antidepressants more than ever, and on

860
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: my work, which at least gives me a reason to

861
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: get out of the bed in the morning.

862
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: Girl, what just like I need you to finish this story,

863
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 3: I need it to be done.

864
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: I visited my son less than ten times in the

865
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: four months. My life revolves around working and waiting for

866
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: a text from the babysitter so I can see him.

867
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes she texts, sometimes she doesn't. Sometimes she greets me

868
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: while breastfeeding him. It's hard to keep my composure, but

869
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: he seems so calm and in love with her, and

870
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: that's the only thing keeping me saying. He looks at

871
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: her in a way he never looked at me. She

872
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: arranges visits in public spaces like parks or bars.

873
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 3: She's bringing a baby to a bar and they.

874
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: Never last more than twenty minutes. She always brings her daughter,

875
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: who clings to her mother and never leaves her side.

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00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 3: Okay, so she second does have a daughter who she

877
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: was after that whole talk about you know you need

878
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 3: to be there for your kids. She's supposedly homeschooling this daughter,

879
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 3: but she leaves the daughter alone from eight am to

880
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: eight pm.

881
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 4: I'm saying, there's too many plot holes here.

882
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: There's too many plot holes.

883
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: I don't like this at all.

884
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 3: I don't think this is real.

885
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 4: Is that her daughter or is that somebody else's kid?

886
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's either someone's lying, like massively, like she's lying

887
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: about she's got a hole. I don't know. This is

888
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: sting operation going on, or someone's lying.

889
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: She just buries her face and her mother and never

890
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: looks at me like I'm a monster. I hope my

891
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: son doesn't become like this. She just the thought drives

892
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 1: me insane. The visits usually consists of me watching whatever

893
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: she does with my son. I can't even touch him,

894
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: or she calls off the visit. This sometimes even means

895
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: watching her nurse him while saying how amazing her baby

896
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: is and how great of a mother she is. It

897
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: assures me mentally and physically, but I need to see

898
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: my son. One time, when she was leaving, I think

899
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: I overheard her daughter asking for her front air bags

900
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: when they got back. I really hope I misheard. Just

901
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: thinking about how it makes me shiver and cry knowing

902
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: my son is with someone like that woman and might

903
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: become like that. I would like to try and get

904
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: my baby back, but I don't have the mental strength.

905
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: It feels like the legal system betrayed me, and I

906
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 1: don't see myself having a chance. I feel so stupid,

907
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: like I lost everything because I was careless. Can we

908
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: look up some more stuff for this?

909
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: Are all the comments just saying this is fake?

910
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 4: No? A lot of the comments like, so sorry for

911
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 4: your loss of the baby, but this is from like

912
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 4: the last upbeat was from two years ago, and that's it.

913
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 3: I literally don't believe this story. And I never say

914
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 3: this about story is I never say they're fake because

915
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 3: I try to give advice regardless of whether or not

916
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 3: I think the story is real. I can't believe this

917
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 3: story is real. I cannot believe it's real. It just

918
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 3: simply can't be real. That's crazy.

919
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 4: I tried to look for like any sense of it.

920
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: Control f fake.

921
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see if anyone.

922
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 4: Says I did on the most recently the last update,

923
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 4: but everyone.

924
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 3: Is just no one is clocking this story. There's just

925
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 3: no way that the legal system would give your child

926
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 3: away to a babysitter.

927
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: It's probably the worst story I've ever read.

928
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 4: There is okay there there was one comment on the

929
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 4: third update where was like, there's no way this is real. Yeah,

930
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 4: that's it.

931
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 3: That's it.

932
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: There's one comment is it popular.

933
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 4: Not as popular?

934
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: What the heck?

935
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: How many uphotss have on that.

936
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 4: Update was twenty one. But on the most recent update,

937
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 4: let me start from the like from the very top,

938
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 4: dang man, wow, the very first one, three hundred ninety three.

939
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 4: I mighta check that one.

940
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: Let's see ya yai i ay yi wow. That's the

941
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 3: end of that story. Though.

942
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: I really don't have any thoughts on this. That was

943
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: a nightmare.

944
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: That was a nightmare.

945
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm still asleep and I need to

946
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: wake up.

947
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: I feel yeah, I feel like I'm in a nightmare.

948
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: A very surreal nightmare.

949
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, nothing on that most that's a least update seven

950
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 4: up votes twelve.

951
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 3: This would not happen in the US, No, that would

952
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: be insane. Like a babysit are getting rights over any

953
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: like other family members is crazy.

954
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: I'm baffled.

955
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 4: That just made us a zero sense to me.

956
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: If a teacher said, I like I teach these kids

957
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 3: from eight to three pm. And I'm watching this person's

958
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 3: kids more than they're watching.

959
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: Their kidding them, not even airbag, but just feeding.

960
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: Just feeding them. I deserve to have their kids. That

961
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 3: would be crazy. You can't just take someone's kids. She

962
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 3: was being paid to do a job, and OPI had

963
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 3: proof that she was paying this person.

964
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: I need more evidence. I need to see the court

965
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: place I need Please, can we.

966
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: Prove this is true?

967
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: Prove it, prove it. I want to see it. I'm

968
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: going to the next one ready.

969
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 3: My father's wife kept stealing my child's gift and giving

970
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 3: it to another.

971
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: This isn't white elephant.

972
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: I forty female, went with my s thirty six male,

973
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: and our child, eight female, to visit my father and

974
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: family for the holidays. This is no weekend trip. I

975
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 3: drive eleven hundred miles one way every other year or

976
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: so to visit my family for the holidays, weddings, funerals,

977
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 3: and sometimes during the summer. This year, the plan was

978
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 3: to spend Christmas with my father sixty six male, his

979
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 3: wife sixty four female let's call her March, and my

980
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 3: brothers alongside their families. I normally end up at my

981
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 3: older brother's house with his wife and kids because my

982
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 3: daughter loves to spend time with her cousins, which we encourage.

983
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from Starbight eighty two and

984
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 3: if you want to spend your own stories, go to

985
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: the r slash Okay Storytime Separate. I'm Sophia, I'm Riley,

986
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 3: and I'm Keon. So Marge and I have had a

987
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 3: very strange relationship for over two decades. I have tried

988
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 3: to get along with her time after time, always ending

989
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 3: up compromising on my part. She's extremely passive, aggressive, and

990
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 3: will not confront or admit to any wrongdoing by herself

991
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 3: or her children. They are apparently all saints, and my

992
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 3: father's blood relatives are always wrong and need to apologize.

993
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 3: Because of the distance and the fact that we're driving,

994
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: I purchased a majority of our child's presence online and

995
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 3: add them shipped directly to my father's work. He owns

996
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 3: his own business. I was afraid of something happening to

997
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 3: them while sitting on my dad's home doorstep during the day.

998
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 3: People be steelinder in the holidays. I love to give gifts,

999
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 3: not in excess, as we do live very frugal lives

1000
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 3: and usually only buy things we need. My child does

1001
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 3: not receive gifts except for her birthday and holidays throughout

1002
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 3: the year. A few days prior to our trip, we

1003
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 3: were making plans for Christmas Eve, and I mistakenly assumed

1004
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 3: that my father and Marge would spend Christmas Eve with us,

1005
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: considering that we were staying their home for the duration

1006
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: of our trip. They had already committed to spending it

1007
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 3: with my older stepbrother and his family two hours away.

1008
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: We accepted this and said, Okay, we'll spend Christmas Eve

1009
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: with my younger brother and his wife's family. No problem.

1010
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you guys usually do. Yeah.

1011
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: We had an extremely wonderful time, and I'm glad that

1012
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 3: we went. A few days prior to Christmas Eve, I

1013
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 3: opened the shipping box that contained the one special present

1014
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 3: that I knew my child would have liked. It was

1015
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 3: a niche gift that is only sold online by about

1016
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 3: two retailers, both of which do not have a traditional

1017
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: brick and mortar store fund.

1018
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: Is it a live view pro Yes, really no, and

1019
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: you can lie.

1020
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: I opened the shipping box to check the gift show

1021
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 3: my asso, and I also mistakenly showed Marge.

1022
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: Uh, oh, guess who's going to have opinions.

1023
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 3: Christmas morning, I had forgotten about this one gift when

1024
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 3: it came time to put presents under the tree, and

1025
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 3: ran to our room where we were staying to find it.

1026
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 3: I checked that room high and low at least twice over,

1027
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 3: and myso also checked three times over to no avail.

1028
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 3: I showed a picture to my father and he made

1029
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 3: the remark that he saw Marge's grandchild wearing it on

1030
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 3: her head the day before when they visited my stepbrother's

1031
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 3: family on Christmas Eve. What March tells me she found

1032
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 3: it on clearance at a well known store. Yet when

1033
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 3: you look on this store's website for anything associated with

1034
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 3: the gift in questions genre, there are no results. I

1035
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: again give her the benefit of the doubt, because we

1036
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,479
Speaker 3: were leaving the day after Christmas to a neighboring state

1037
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 3: where my mother lives. I have a touch of add

1038
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 3: and I lose things. But if I spend the time

1039
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 3: to find the lost things, I always find them. The

1040
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 3: day after I got to my mother's house, I pulled

1041
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 3: everything out of my car, went through every single bag,

1042
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 3: every suitcase, and no present. Before I make accusations, I

1043
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 3: try to cover my bases and look at all possible situations,

1044
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 3: because I need to be sure. The only possible explanation

1045
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: in my mind is that she stole it.

1046
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: Does this item have a serial number? Well? I doubt it.

1047
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, we should.

1048
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: You think I'd be against this. We should put serial

1049
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: numbers on everything.

1050
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 3: I think you ask her where she got it from,

1051
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 3: and then you email the people that sell it and say,

1052
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 3: do you ever put this in this store?

1053
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, she didn't mention it, but probably like get more

1054
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: into it.

1055
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 3: That's weird.

1056
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: Why would she still that you give it to another kid? Hey,

1057
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: it's Sean here.

1058
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: We're gonna get back to this episode, but a quick

1059
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: three minute break with asramre sponsors.

1060
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: I have contacted my father, my full blood brothers, and

1061
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: my uncle who is my father's brother. They all shared

1062
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 3: stories except my father, about Marge and her shenanigans that

1063
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 3: would make the average moral person gasp. She has constantly,

1064
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: over the years tried to separate my father from his

1065
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 3: family and embrace her side. She plans parties and gatherings

1066
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 3: and makes excuses as to why she does not invite

1067
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: my father's side of the family. This isn't just a

1068
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 3: few times. I'm talking over twenty years here, my father

1069
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 3: has made them and to my older brother that he

1070
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 3: feels as though he's being tracked by her. She consistently

1071
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 3: has his phone in her possession, so when I call,

1072
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 3: it's hard to not speak to her in some way.

1073
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: I have tried to save face over the years, but

1074
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 3: this is the last straw for me. I've already told

1075
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 3: my father that she has passed away to me and

1076
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: that she is trying to control his life by pushing

1077
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 3: his children away.

1078
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's isolation technique.

1079
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 3: I mean, she takes his phone all the time.

1080
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:25,479
Speaker 1: Why what's on there?

1081
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 3: He asked me why we always have tension, and I

1082
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 3: told him I don't know. I've tried to get along

1083
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,919
Speaker 3: with her, and this was the icing on the cake.

1084
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: This woman is everything she could possibly need or want,

1085
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 3: and yet is still not happy or satisfied. This woman

1086
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 3: is literally spoiled, rotten, and is complete control over my

1087
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 3: father who's just trying to make everyone happy. In the process.

1088
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 3: My brothers and I have been the ones to bear

1089
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: the blame, the shame and have had to back down

1090
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 3: to keep her happy. I just can't do it anymore.

1091
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 3: I draw the line when you steal from my child, who,

1092
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 3: by the way, also has special needs. My intention of

1093
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 3: this post is for advice going forward. I just don't

1094
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 3: know what to do other than try to stake constant

1095
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 3: in my father's life. I love my father and I

1096
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 3: worry about his health and her lack of care for him.

1097
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 3: She takes medication and drinks on a daily basis. My

1098
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 3: father may never leave her because of his health, and

1099
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 3: the divorce would absolutely ruin him financially, medically, and the

1100
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 3: aftermath would destroy his mental health. The punter is that

1101
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: my ESSO works extremely hard to give us a decent life,

1102
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 3: and he hasn't had a real vacation for the better

1103
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 3: half of a decade. This is by his own choosing.

1104
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 3: Believe me, I have tried to make him take a break.

1105
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: He does not get along with his brother's or stepfather.

1106
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 3: This trip was to try and convince him to move

1107
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 3: closer to my family, because I'm close to all of

1108
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 3: my family except for my father's wife and her children's families. Yikes.

1109
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 3: So you're trying to convince him to move closer to them,

1110
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 3: but one of the people that you're moving closer to

1111
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 3: is controlling thief.

1112
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, doesn't help that they've been married for about twenty

1113
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: years too.

1114
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1115
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: Oh dude, I actually I don't.

1116
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 3: Okay, I would confront her way more about that gift

1117
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 3: that she stole. I would definitely be may give me

1118
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: to pay that back.

1119
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: Mamaete all over. Yeah, I don't see isolation techniques happen

1120
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: with older people. You should with younger people.

1121
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1122
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen a lot like people my

1123
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: age not like this.

1124
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyone can isolate. Uh. Comment one, You're going to

1125
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 3: have to be blunt with her and with your father.

1126
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: This is unacceptable behavior. She needs to reimburse you for

1127
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 3: the item that she took, because it didn't just disappear

1128
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 3: over night. Then you'll have to go no contact and

1129
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: let your father know that you will be there for

1130
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 3: him if he ever decides that he wants to be

1131
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 3: with his family again. I'm sorry, But if he chooses

1132
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 3: to stay with her, then he condones her behavior. Oh,

1133
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 3: he says, I completely agree with you. I just know

1134
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 3: that the no contact is exactly what she wants. This

1135
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 3: is really where I'm torn. Thank you for your comment.

1136
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 3: Comment two says you cut them out of your life.

1137
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 3: I'm really sorry for your father's situation, but at the

1138
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 3: end of the day, he made a choice and decided

1139
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 3: to stick by it. He chose his wife over and

1140
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 3: over again, and yet he doesn't put his foot down

1141
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: to be like this. He probably understands his role in

1142
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 3: the relationship is giving her whatever she needs to keep

1143
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: tapping that.

1144
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: Fine young But what it's not the same age.

1145
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 3: The same age, and he allowed it to continue to

1146
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 3: this day. So that's the bed he made. You and

1147
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 3: your family, however, don't have to partake in this circus.

1148
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 3: Go low contact or no contact at all. Meet him

1149
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 3: only in restaurants, cafes and whatnot. Don't go to their house.

1150
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 3: Don't subject your kids to interact with Marge. Your father

1151
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 3: had twenty years to wise up and choose his family

1152
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 3: over her. He decided not to. Opie says, we live

1153
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 3: out of state, so my child already has limited contact

1154
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 3: with them. I have warned my brother and his father

1155
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: about the contact that my niece and nephew have with them.

1156
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 3: Common Three says, Drive to your Stepro's house, show him

1157
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 3: your virtual receipt and take the gift back. Embarrass her

1158
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 3: for stealing. Opie says, what's funny is that my step

1159
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 3: ro is a cop oh and today he confronted her

1160
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 3: about it. She gaspled him, and now there's a storm bruin.

1161
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 3: Common Force says, Marge is not the problem. It's easier

1162
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 3: to say she's the problem, but she's not. If I

1163
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 3: drive a burning car on your driveway, do you blame

1164
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 3: the fire or the person who put it in your driveway.

1165
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 3: It might be hard for your father to leave now,

1166
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 3: but can you honestly say he has had no opportunity

1167
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 3: for twenty years?

1168
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1169
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 3: Just because your father wants you to assimilate to his

1170
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 3: choices doesn't change the fact that he has made his choice,

1171
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 3: and he chose March six thousand plus days of him

1172
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 3: waking up and staying married to a woman who hates

1173
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 3: his children. Have you ever wondered how Cinderella's dad left

1174
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 3: her with the evil step mom. Your dad is the

1175
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 3: template on which the story was written. If you really

1176
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 3: really feel like he deserves more of your patients than

1177
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 3: arranged to see him without her there, take him to dinner.

1178
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 3: If he can't be alone with you without her there.

1179
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 3: It's just another choice he's making. Yeah, but there is

1180
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 3: another update this any final thoughts.

1181
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: It's crazy. This is heartbreaking to see that the dad

1182
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: you know again wants to stay with the mother kind

1183
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: of passed on from his kids. It's really sad to see.

1184
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: It's tough, really tough.

1185
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 3: To see he has to stay with his wife, stepwife,

1186
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 3: with stepwife, with her stepmom.

1187
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: I guess, off, yes, my gosh, we'll stay with his wife. Yeah,

1188
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: but you got other family, it seems like, and make

1189
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: the most of it while you can through this tough season.

1190
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. I think that, like if all of you

1191
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 3: kind of unite, all of the other family members unite

1192
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 3: and are like, Okay, we're going to limit contact with

1193
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 3: his mom or you know, set some boundaries with her

1194
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 3: and get on the same page about it. Not even

1195
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 3: necessarily of same page on like how much contact you're

1196
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 3: you gonna have with her, but just the same page

1197
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 3: about who she is. Uh, and limit contact with your

1198
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 3: dad till he realizes that he can't have a relationship

1199
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 3: with you. Well the mom is there or the wife

1200
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 3: is there.

1201
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: Yikes, yikes.

1202
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 3: But there is an update. After giving it a little

1203
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 3: time and attempting to stay constant in my father's life,

1204
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: I have received a phone call from him today. Okay,

1205
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 3: small talk went good until I asked if he had

1206
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 3: spoken to March. She has expected would not admit to

1207
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 3: any wrongdoing, and he frankly didn't want to talk about it.

1208
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: Uh oh, So.

1209
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 3: Unfortunately I told him I was going no contact with

1210
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 3: both of them. I also told him he lost a

1211
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 3: daughter and a granddaughter, to which I was and still

1212
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 3: heartbroken about. Thank you for all your advice. I deeply

1213
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 3: appreciate it. Some I didn't want to hear or realize,

1214
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 3: but it helped me to make this decision, and I

1215
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 3: hope in the future will allow me to have less

1216
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 3: stress when I visit my hometown. I have informed all

1217
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 3: of my family members about this, and every single one

1218
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 3: is being supportive in my decision. She has one child

1219
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 3: out of three left to drive away. I hope it

1220
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: doesn't come down to that, but I have a feeling

1221
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 3: at will.

1222
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: When one falls other will too. Yeah.

1223
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 3: I think that was the right decision. Oh Pee, yep,

1224
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 3: your dad just can't see what he's doing and he

1225
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 3: needs to, you know, have consequences so that he changes

1226
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 3: his behavior. But that is the end of that story, folks,

1227
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Speaker 3: and the end of this episode. So if you love us,

1228
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Speaker 3: make sure to subscribe. We love you and see you tomorrow.