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Speaker 1: I mean literally and figuratively, so much has changed, you know,

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Speaker 1: what Revolt black News. Revolt was owned by Puff. It

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Speaker 1: He wants to control every woman everything in his circle. Period.

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Speaker 1: provoke things? Absolutely? But have I also seen women get

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Speaker 4: So difficult to reflect on the darkest times in your life,

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Speaker 1: And I agree with.

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Speaker 3: You wholeheartedly that if anybody owed anything at this point,

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Speaker 1: Uh. But in order to do that, you've you've got

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Speaker 1: to you gotta apologize to Cassie. There was no viology

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and as I to profess that I would like

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Speaker 2: I have to draw our attention to Diddy's December sixth,

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Speaker 1: Right by the way, Ye can he take that down?

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Speaker 1: Is anybody gonna take that down? That's what I was like,

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Speaker 1: y'all might want to take that down. We got it up.

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Speaker 2: But I think that it goes into your point, teslaing

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Speaker 2: This is still up. This is from December to the sixth,

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Speaker 1: Quote. Enough is enough.

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Speaker 2: For the last couple of weeks, I have sat silently

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Speaker 2: absolutely clear. I did not do any of the awful

431
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 2: things being alleged. I will fight for my name, my family,

432
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,959
Speaker 2: and for the truth. Sean Diddy Combs. He wrote this

433
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 2: tweet back in December when Cassie filed her lawsuit, and

434
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 2: we know that that lawsuit was settled the very next day.

435
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: This statement is still on his Instagram, So we juxtaposed

436
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 2: what he said back here in December when she came

437
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 2: out with the lawsuit and this incident was even described,

438
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 2: you know, this incident from the horrible hotel video that

439
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: we're discussing today, you know, and you look at the

440
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 2: statement that he put out yesterday with this apology. It

441
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,679
Speaker 2: is so disingenuous because if he really, I mean, it

442
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 2: goes beyond apologies for me. What we're talking about here

443
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: is actual atonement, which means, according to Harry and Webster,

444
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 2: is reparation for an offense or injury right satisfactorily, you know,

445
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: reconciling something that you have done in repairing the harm

446
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 2: for an offense or an injury. And he has not

447
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 2: done that. He is just mad that he got caught right, Yeah,

448
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 2: because really this was all about his his his perception

449
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 2: of himself, his legacy. Right, he said, enough is enough.

450
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: For the last couple of weeks, I have sat silently

451
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: and watched people try to assassinate my character, destroy my reputation,

452
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 2: and my legacy. He actually did, he did that to himself.

453
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 2: So he's just been blaming everybody. So you know, but

454
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, narciss is arenover wrong

455
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 2: and when they do apologize, it's a half assed apology.

456
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: I'm not buying that. Yeah, let's send this Why they

457
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: doing it to him now? And why him? And why no,

458
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: he did this to himself. That's the bottom line Again,

459
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: when I talking about somebody he just met at the

460
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: club and somebody set them up, and maybe is that

461
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: we're talking about a long standing relationship that he had

462
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: with this woman, beating this woman's ass for ten years.

463
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 1: Bottom line, she got out the relationship, and y'all can

464
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: suspend it whatever way y'all want to. The white man

465
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: told her to do it, whoever told her to do it.

466
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: Bottom line is she got out of the relationship. She

467
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: spoke up. She told this man, I'm getting ready to

468
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: speak up. You need to pay a tone, which means

469
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: paid for your what you did. And yes, guys, in America,

470
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 1: that's how it works. That's how it works. Were you

471
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: paid for your you pay for your scene. That's how

472
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: it works. We don't exchange Roman noodles in the courthouse.

473
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: She told him she needs civil versus criminal. That's why

474
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 1: you have these different courts to deal with these different issues.

475
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Speaker 3: And when it's outside the statue, limitations were there are

476
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 3: other limitations in the criminal court. That's why you have

477
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 3: the opportunity to seek recourse in the civil court.

478
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: That's right, instance, that's right. And say money means so

479
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: much to him in particularly, yes, that is a punishment

480
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: to have to pay. He did not believe her. He

481
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: called her blood and he fucked around and found out

482
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: she put it out there. She dealt with everything. They

483
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: came with it. Now, I'm gonna be interested to see

484
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: if he tried to spend this because when he say

485
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: I didn't do any of the things, now, I wonder

486
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: if you're gonna say, well, I wasn't talking about Casie.

487
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: I was talking about because you know, a bunch of

488
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: other stuff came out to the diddy parties, the hetero

489
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: s you know, the homosexual stuff, all of that, But no, Puff,

490
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 1: we know you was talking about Castie, So don't even

491
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: try to I'm just putting it after that. I don't

492
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: try to spend that. Be done with the spin at

493
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: this point.

494
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 3: See, well, that sat on there within twenty four hours

495
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 3: told us everything we need to know.

496
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: It told us everything we need to know. But the

497
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: people that were still making excuses for him still say, well,

498
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: that's just how it is better to get it on

499
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: out the way. I mean, they did the same thing

500
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: with everybody, did that every time. All it's just better.

501
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Michael Jackson's better. He just settled, just moving

502
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: on out the way. So people even find reason for that,

503
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they justify it. Even still

504
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: with this video, people are saying, why show the video

505
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: now cause Nigga's like, you need to see it, People

506
00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: like you, the ones who were in the comments of

507
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: the saying why show it now? Why do we need

508
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: to see the video?

509
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 3: Why?

510
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: Because you needed to see it. You needed to see it,

511
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: So just sit this one out.

512
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: You know that we're trying to say that, Oh what,

513
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: maybe that wasn't Puffy, But now he came to God, girl,

514
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: he actually said like, hey, I you know, I take

515
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 2: responsibility for this. Then okay, now they can't these people

516
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 2: online I called him the fuck Boy FA faction, the

517
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: fuck Boy faction people like to kate for this, you know,

518
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: horrible behavior, like there's no defense right now at this point.

519
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 1: And it made him say it, that they made him

520
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: say it or something somebody that they got some kind

521
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: of I'm sure if you dig deep enough into it,

522
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: you'll you'll find something. You probably did that deep it's

523
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: probably right on the service. What are some of the

524
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: other responses, though, Jay, because I know the mayors spoke

525
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: out on it as well. The Mayor of New York Mayor.

526
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: Of New York said that he is He said it

527
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: was absolutely horrible. He's disgusted by the video, and he

528
00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: is considering rescinding the Key of the City that New

529
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: York City gave to Diddy. If they take back the

530
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: key of the city, which is a great honor to

531
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 2: receive the key of the city anywhere, that would be

532
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: the first time that it was actually rescinded in New

533
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 2: York City over something.

534
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: So we have to look and see what happens.

535
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: Cassie's lawyer is not buying did he statement that he

536
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 2: put out yesterday on Instagram.

537
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: Whatsoever.

538
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: Cassieven Tours lawyer Meredith Firetog responded to the apology and

539
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 2: a statement obtained by People magazine, and the statement read quote,

540
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: Combs's most recent statement is more about himself than the

541
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: many people he has hurt. When Cassie and multiple other

542
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 2: women came before, he denied everything and suggested that his

543
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 2: victims were looking for a payday. That he was only

544
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 2: compelled to apologize once his repeated denials were proven false

545
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 2: shows his pathetic desperation and no one will be swayed

546
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: by his disingenuous words.

547
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: End quote.

548
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: So that was from Cassie's attorney. Cassie herself has not

549
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 2: made a statement. However, her husband had has made a statement.

550
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: Cassie's husband's name is Alex Fine, and he issued a

551
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: statement on Instagram just really speaking on violence against women

552
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: and men who hate women that engage in domestic violence.

553
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna read the statement here. It says, letter to

554
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 2: women and children. Men who hit women aren't men. Men

555
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: who enable it and protect these people aren't men as men.

556
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: Violence against women shouldn't be, and shouldn't be inevitable. Check

557
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 2: your brothers, your friends, and your family. Our daughters, sisters,

558
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 2: mothers and wives should feel protected and love. Hold the

559
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 2: women in your life with the utmost regard. Men who

560
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: hurt women hate men. Excuse me, men who hurt women

561
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: hate women. To all the survivors. Find the men and

562
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: women who help and love to all the survivors. Your

563
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: stories are real, and people believe you. To all the survivors,

564
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: you're not alone, and there are men and women who

565
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: care on care only for your wealth being in safety.

566
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: We want you to succeed and flourish. To all the

567
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: women and children, I'm sorry you live in a world

568
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: where you're not protected and you don't feel equal. I

569
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: want to raise my daughters in a world where they

570
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: are safe and love. To the abusers, You're done. You're

571
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: not safe anymore. You're not protected anymore. The men by

572
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: your side are just as weak. So you're so miserable

573
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: with yourself that blank would be considered oh alive and

574
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: would be considered a kindness.

575
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: End quote.

576
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: So that was from Alex Fine, a white man. I

577
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: must say, who is the spouse of Cassie Ventur? So

578
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: he had some choice words. The other thing is, I

579
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: think we spoke on May Eric Adams. And then the

580
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: final thing I will say before we get into the

581
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: next statement test is that Vishal Tdjakes also did mention

582
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: domestic violence in his church service yesterday. He did see

583
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: the He did see the video. He said that he

584
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: was approached by one of his congregation members on the

585
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: way into church and she asked him to pray for

586
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: women who are experiencing domestic violence in their homes right now,

587
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: and so he had some words.

588
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: He was very, very frustrated and angered by what he saw.

589
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: And he did say that it just reminded him, you know,

590
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: he as a father. It was just really really hard

591
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: for him to yeah, but he said he could. He

592
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: didn't speak to a flat although.

593
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: He took the issue of domestic violence, but not specifically

594
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: of this. And you know, again, I love Bishop shout

595
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: out to bishit. That was my first church, like before

596
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: it blew up in nineteen ninety eight when I lived

597
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: in Dallas, Texas, and I need him to speak to it. Like,

598
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 1: if you're gonna speak to us, speak to it. Let

599
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: let's not sit around. And you know, y'all saw the

600
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: video online. What vid are you talking about? Bishop? Like

601
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: I'm really getting tired of like I need passes to

602
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: like speak up on shit, and especially since this wasn't

603
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: a shit of yours, Bishop, and so if you are

604
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: speaking up now, halfway speaking up, it makes me think

605
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: you're just doing that for the sake of trying to

606
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: keep yourself kind of distance, because you've been in the

607
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: mix but still not full throated. What did he did

608
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: was wrong. And so this is just my person my

609
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: personal experience, because again, I bishop has touched my life

610
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: in ways in some of my darkest times, like literally

611
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: that I've been through going through his church. But I

612
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: also watch how he handled the Bishop Eddie Long issues,

613
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: and I watched how he didn't speak on that and said,

614
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: you know, we ain't gonna speak on it, we ain't

615
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: gonna gossip, we ain't gonna this that. And I think

616
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: Bishop be skating, you know, skating around a lot of

617
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: shit bishops. So I really I wasn't really moved by that.

618
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: I think I think if you're going as a man

619
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: of God, I don't know. I just I'm more of

620
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: a fan of how your pastor Jamal Brian, which we'll

621
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: talk about and next and the next episode on Ermin

622
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: Fortson's church Ermond Fortson's funeral. I just I just need

623
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: passes to call it like it is, Like call it

624
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: like it is, if you're gonna do it, calling like

625
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: it is. And so I so for me, I wasn't

626
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: really moved by that. To me, do we need leadership

627
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: in this time, in this space and our minister should

628
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: be leading us. You should be leading us, not this

629
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: pussy footing around it. Saw the video woman came to

630
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: all the women that feel scared. No, talk to your brother,

631
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: talk to your son. This was a man that you

632
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: took under your wing. Talk to him. You can still, Hey,

633
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: come to me, prepare coming whatever you need help, brother, Like,

634
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: come on, speak to this. They got you mixed up

635
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: saying you were partying with this man. Be clear about

636
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: where you stand in this moment, in this hour. So

637
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: I ain't really feeling it at all. I hear you

638
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: on that.

639
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: So the other thing I wanted to say, you know,

640
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: to get your you'all thoughts on. Now we know that

641
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: Puffy did part ways with Revald TV, but even Revolt

642
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 2: TV put out a very very clear statement that, in

643
00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: my opinion, is a demonstration of leadership. This is what

644
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: Revolts put out on Instagram. Quote, we are deeply saddened

645
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: and disturbed by the recent video circulating of our former chairman,

646
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: Sean Diddy Combs. Even with his recent separation from Revolt,

647
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: it is still our duty to address this matter and

648
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: recognize the direct impact it has on our staff, our audience,

649
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: and the culture we represent. Revolt stands in solidarity with

650
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: all who have been victimized victims of abuse, and remain

651
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: committed to upholding the values and integrity of our community

652
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: that our community expects from us. We vehemently stand against

653
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: any form of domestic abuse and will always be a

654
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: fearless advocate for truth and accountability. If you or someone

655
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: you know is experiencing domestic violence, help is available. Please

656
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at eight hundred seven

657
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: nine nine seven two three three end quotes.

658
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: Heavy inshasis on the former chairman right clearly for there

659
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:01,479
Speaker 3: was right.

660
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: This statement is basically reminding y'all, we gota h do

661
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: with this nig over is so. But we will stay

662
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 1: with and I will speak to you know, being with Revolt,

663
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: And you know, guys, I don't talk a lot of

664
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: inside baseball because I just don't. It's not that's it's

665
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: internal conversation. But I will tell you that being with Revolt,

666
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: this has been tough on This is the part that

667
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: people don't see, like the hundreds of employees that lost

668
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: their job as a result of this, because there's no

669
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: more Revolt Black News, that whole division is gone. The

670
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: dozens and I mean dozens up on dozens of calls

671
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: that we've that we've been on with the women in

672
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: Revolt and how they feel and really processing the unpacking.

673
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 1: Shout out to the chairman, the Tavio. He has really

674
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: like made space for women to be heard. He has

675
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: really like taken people just have no idea like what's

676
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: been going on behind the scene means of just navigating

677
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: this of even staff like you know, what do we say?

678
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: How do we say it? How do we you know

679
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen to the company? What does this mean

680
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: for us? A place where we used to be proud

681
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: to be a part of. You know, you've seen me,

682
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 1: Michelle like go in every time I go to Revolting

683
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: showing videos of Puff and Biggie on the wall, and

684
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: you think about the dream of hip hop and politics,

685
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: like wow, because I really thought I was gonna be MC,

686
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: and I just had no idea that MC my mic

687
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: would be in politics, and so to merge those worlds together,

688
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: and this just means from a selfish standpoint, to merge

689
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: those worlds together and to go in and look at that,

690
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: and I would play the it's all a dream and

691
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 1: seeing your name on the wall, like no, we literally

692
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: are taking hip hop and politics and merging that. To

693
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: even have had the ability to be able to coach Puff,

694
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: you just think about take this ugly, ugly, ugly man

695
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: that we know, or that that we just got introduced

696
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: to the man that the public knew prior to that

697
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 1: for me to have an opportunity for him to call

698
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: me and say, Tez, what do I say? Okay, Puff,

699
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: listen to Fanny Little Hammer first, and then when you

700
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: listen to this, and to actually even be producing him,

701
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: and I still got the recordings because I'll never forget it,

702
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: to even be producing Puff, the producer of all producers

703
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: on what to say in this moment in politics and

704
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: how do you and what? And then to haven't even

705
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 1: called you back and say did I do good? Think

706
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: about that? Like think about Puff, like just think about

707
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: making the band and how hard he was on artists,

708
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: and how to him be asking me did I do good?

709
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: To make sure I was. I'm telling you, God, this

710
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 1: has this is a lot, like this is a lot.

711
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: I am not saying that to minimize anything that happened

712
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: with Cassie. She deserves all of the respect and the

713
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: gratitude and the grace to heal, and all the money

714
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: and all the program and all the upliftment and everything

715
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 1: and anybody else that this it's hurt, but our community

716
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: really took a loss. It really took a loss. We're

717
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: talking at somebody impacted an entire twenty year span, not

718
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: just in music either, humanitarian work. Really wanting to see

719
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: you know, as bad as he is, I don't know

720
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: if he was doing that to atone, if it was guilt,

721
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: whatever it was. But what I do know is we

722
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: can't call any other billionaire to say, hey, people want

723
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: to learn how to be a candy? Can you help

724
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: us on push the line. I just can't ignore those things.

725
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: And it's just saddening. It's just sick, like this whole thing.

726
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: Gouy just being very honest, it's just sick. It's just sad.

727
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: It's just really going out sad. It just really, really is.

728
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: We had a big loss here, he had a greater loss.

729
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: And I'm not even I'm not even talking about me.

730
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: I'm at the bottom. I'm just four years in the game.

731
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: Think about people like Mary J. Blige, whose whole career,

732
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: you know, this was a brother to her, little Kim

733
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: one twelve, so many people. But also think but all

734
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: the people that got screwed over to they sitting back Mace,

735
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: all of them, like Craig Ma, they all like, eventually

736
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: it was gonna you know, what comes to light, you know,

737
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: like they say, was in the dark, comes of light.

738
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: So this is a very complex story. I guess lifetime

739
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: at some point we have the story of Sean diagcause

740
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: this is just a hell of a story. I mean,

741
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: it's just a hell of a story, like the the

742
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: the jeckal and Hide the evil versus the good. It's

743
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: just sad, guys, and the conversation is far from over. Yeah,

744
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: there will be more that needs to get said. I'm

745
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: glad Revote put out this statement. I'm glad they did

746
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: not run from the very obvious thing. There were some

747
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: folks that wanted some things said earlier, but people always

748
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: have to realize like jumping out that we've seen like

749
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: people can have these hot takes and hot takes and

750
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: not take and sometimes when you jump out there, even

751
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: if you're on the right side, uh, sometimes legally, it

752
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 1: can put you in a in a real bad position.

753
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: So people got to consider that too, Like there's always

754
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: people have to be mind full of what they say

755
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: is organizations. And so I know people wanted Revolt to

756
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: say something a lot sooner. They did put out a

757
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: domestic violence when it first came out, but they didn't

758
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: speak to it directly, and so there was a lot

759
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: of conversation about that, like she would be speaking to

760
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: it directly or not directly. But then also it had

761
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: nothing to do with him just being the chairman. It's

762
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: had everything to do with a civil suit. No judge

763
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: had determined who was right or wrong or any epp,

764
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So people got to be

765
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: mindful of organizations. Just saying something can also put you

766
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: in illegal jeopardy as well. So now that the video

767
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: has come out, I do appreciate revolt Or making that statement.

768
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: I've even said to myself, should I take Revolt off?

769
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: Should I not take But then that would erased all

770
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: the work that Revolters did that has nothing to do

771
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: with Puff. You know, he started it, but we made

772
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: that work, you know what I mean. So I'm just

773
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: kind of in the lost guys, I don't have a

774
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: lot of work. Yeah, it was interesting.

775
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 2: I think you and I were having this conversation recently,

776
00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: and unfortunately, this entire situation it kind of put a

777
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: stain on that era within hip hop, you know, with

778
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 2: all of those artists that worked really, really hard, and

779
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: a lot of them you know, did make contributions to

780
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: the music, but they all make contributions to the culture.

781
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: I just it's just really unfortunate that this whole bad

782
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: boy era and a lot of the artists that we

783
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: were even in proximity to Puff kind of have a

784
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: stain on them because of what his you know, what

785
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 2: his actions were, you know. And then some people were complicit.

786
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: Some people were very well aware of the abuse and

787
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: and witness things. Some of them have spoken out, a

788
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: lot of them didn't. But it's just really unfortunate that

789
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: this does seem to put a stain on that absolutely does.

790
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: You won't be able to at least I know I can't,

791
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: and I don't know this because I'm connected indirectly or what.

792
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: But I can't even listen to a song now without

793
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: thinking them. Same thing with R Kelly, like yes, it

794
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: puts a stain on without a doubt. Without you, you.

795
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 3: Don't you don't even know how much he done to

796
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 3: impact until you do things like I've listened to my

797
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 3: Spotify life list and every fourth and fifth song is

798
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: an artist that Puffy was either on.

799
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: The track with, or produced or brought out.

800
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: He brought out Icon's bid is an icon, you know,

801
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 3: and Puff was connected to that. Buff was connected to

802
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 3: Shawn John. So he's had a mark on fashion making.

803
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 3: The band was one of the first reality shows that

804
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 3: was entered on black culture, black music, and essentially blackness

805
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 3: that I can remember, you know, So we had a

806
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 3: mark on television.

807
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: Even the cologne, like the cologne inspired Like I mean,

808
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: he heard cologne and I was like, is that that

809
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: Sean John? And I was like, damn, he can't even

810
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: wear the cologne that like like a guy Like I'm saying,

811
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: this is like a lot that's gonna have to be

812
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: processed for real and that's not minimizing Like her, she'd no,

813
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: I'm glad it came out, guys. I mean, it's the

814
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: ugly truth that we just got to walk down together.

815
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 1: We just got to walk through it together. Twenty twenty four,

816
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: the elders are on the throne. Let's expose on all

817
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: the fuck shit. Let's just deal with it. Let's just

818
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: let's just walk through it. Let's deal with it. It

819
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: is what it is. I'm looking forward to some more

820
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: shit getting exposed, be quite honest with you, I'd rather

821
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: know where we are than than live under bullshit. But

822
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: it is going to take a lot. Like, there's just

823
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 1: a lot that's gonna come with this, There's a lot, yes,

824
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: talking about the ripple effect. The rocket is what happened

825
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: with Cassie.

826
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 3: The ripple effect is the impact now on the music

827
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 3: that we listen to and the culture and the icons

828
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 3: that he's in, his family, everything else, the people he's employed.

829
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: My friend is his former CEO, like worked really hard

830
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: the last eight years trying to turn that around. He

831
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: came in when Puff was really going through a dark

832
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: porod after losing Kim and all of that. And he

833
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: don't know this side. I believe him when he say

834
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: he don't know this side of that. I believe him.

835
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: I believe And when he said, I focused on the business,

836
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: on the brand, I wasn't doing at no party doing

837
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: this type. And now they got to look for opportunities

838
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: with people looking at them sideways. You know what I'm saying,

839
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 1: Like it's just right the riffect. Yes, and the impact

840
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: is greater than what was. Yes. Shout out to doctor Steve.

841
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: He had to separate from Puff. Puff helped him start

842
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: a charter school. We're talking about hundreds and thousands of

843
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: kids that came up through that charter school with Puff

844
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: in the picture, you know, because he believed in them

845
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: and their future. And now it's a lot like kids

846
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: are involved in this, Like it's just a lot guys.

847
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: And so we just you know, we just got to

848
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: continue to just keep having a conversation. And when I

849
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 1: say we meaning everybody gonna continue to keep having a conversation.

850
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: You know, I wanted to put it on the pod,

851
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: just to put it on the record. I'm not one,

852
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: you know too. I think a lot has been said,

853
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: and I also want to say this before we close out.

854
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: I also think this is something that men need to

855
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: be talking about, you know. I think men need to

856
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: be addressed in this The men, podcasters, the men I know,

857
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: my science says some stuff, I know, the pivot says

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Speaker 1: and stuff where the men at like this, this is

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Speaker 1: the moment where these these men that say women need

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Speaker 1: to stab women, women need to stab men conversations. Let's

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Speaker 1: set the men talk about this and what they need

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Speaker 1: to be doing. That's that's what I'm looking for. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking to see where on this So I find that interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you need a bulletforn for that for everybody in

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Speaker 3: the back outside in the crowd that didn't hear that one. Yes,

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Speaker 3: we need to see, you know, where men stand on this.

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Speaker 3: And I appreciate the conversation and what it's also raising.

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Speaker 3: And I'm seeing in different comments and threads or other moments,

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Speaker 3: whether it be in reality TV or music or the life,

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Speaker 3: where women have come forward talking about similar allegations and

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Speaker 3: a lot of that is being brought back to the surface.

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Speaker 3: I remember seeing a clip of Charae with the Housewives

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Speaker 3: of Atlanta and that there was a clip where she

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Speaker 3: was sitting with her ex husband and talking about that

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Speaker 3: be she separating. Yeah, so you know, seeing that stuff

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Speaker 3: being resurfaced and looking at it from a new look,

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Speaker 3: from a different lens than maybe it was viewed from

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Speaker 3: when it came out.

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Speaker 1: I think, is it's good that these conversations are happening

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Speaker 1: and that this stuff is reservicing, so we can, you know,

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Speaker 1: analyze what is it we're watching or what are we condoning?

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Speaker 1: And you know, well, I'm particularly since I know people

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Speaker 1: connected him, since I've been connected him, I'm particularly I

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Speaker 1: want to be clear. I want to know who's gonna

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Speaker 1: say something on the people who actually know him. That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm looking for, you know, not just random people

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Speaker 1: like my Sign spoke up. My son did not have

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Speaker 1: to took a lot of criticism because he didn't say

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Speaker 1: anything at the beginning. He said he just he couldn't

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Speaker 1: speak on a civil suit. But he spoke up. Puff

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Speaker 1: has been very kind to until Freedom, you know, and

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Speaker 1: you guys may be aware. He literally created an award

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Speaker 1: for Timika Mallory and he's invested a lot in their organization.

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Speaker 1: So my Sign did not have to speak up. He

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Speaker 1: could have just kept it moving and said, hey, you

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Speaker 1: been good to me, so what's the point speaking up.

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Speaker 1: Charlemagne also spoke up today. As you guys know, the

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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club was with Revolt, having been in a few years.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why people thinking they are, but they're not.

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Speaker 1: But Revolt was the first one to put the Breakfast

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Speaker 1: Club on TV, and so Charlemagne also could have just

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Speaker 1: went on and went in a different direction. So me personally,

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Speaker 1: since I know him and know people connected him, I'm

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Speaker 1: not looking for all these random I want to know.

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Speaker 1: I'm interested to see the people that know what they

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Speaker 1: gonna say. It's just gonna be just gonna be something

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Speaker 1: interesting to see. And maybe they don't say anything. Maybe

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Speaker 1: some people feel like the pow longs enough enough people

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Speaker 1: are saying stuff, they don't have to have a hot

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Speaker 1: take on everything. So guys, we're gonna continue to keep

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Speaker 1: following this story if something new develops against what something

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Speaker 1: is new development, because they said it's far from over,

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Speaker 1: So we'll pick it up from here unfortunately, and we'll

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Speaker 1: continue to unpack this here. Twenty twenty four. Thank you

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