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Speaker 2: Welcome to the solid verbal Come that for me. I'm

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Speaker 2: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 2: I want to be happy. You want to be happy?

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Speaker 2: For day at the State.

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Whoom, whoom and and tie.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Cliburbo boys and girls. My name

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Speaker 1: is Ty hilden Brandt, joining me as always over there

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Speaker 1: in New York City. My man Dan Or Rubinstein, Sir,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm very good, Ty, I'm excellent. In fact, and I

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Speaker 2: want to ask you a question. Yes, because sometimes things

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Speaker 2: are brought to our attention and we are defined by,

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Speaker 2: if nothing else, we are open to feedback. Okay, yes, correct.

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Speaker 2: We value to my listeners, that is a listener's thoughts

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Speaker 2: and opinions. And there has been something that has been

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Speaker 2: repeatedly said, probably in the last seven to ten days.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, like when we're either recapping games or

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Speaker 2: we're previewing games. There's a fan base and I don't

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Speaker 2: think you know where I'm going with this, So don't worry.

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Speaker 2: There's a fan base that feels a little bit slighted

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Speaker 2: that they're having a very good year, and yet we

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Speaker 2: should be. Okay, and today I want to plant our flag.

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Speaker 2: And I know they're listening at the Fountain Dining Hall, Tie.

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Speaker 2: I know they're listening across the perfectly manicured lawn of

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Speaker 2: Mitch's tavern, and damn it, Tie, I know in the

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Speaker 2: Registrar's office that the George Worsley Administrative Services Complex on

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Speaker 2: the campus of North Carolina State University. Oh, they're listening

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Speaker 2: because as of today, Tie, we are exclusively an NC

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Speaker 2: State show. I devoted all of the time I normally

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Speaker 2: would have spent studying the week ahead Week seven, which well,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll have a nickname for right, of course,

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Speaker 2: And I spent that basking in the glory of running

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Speaker 2: back Reggie Gilaspie's not one, not two, but three yards

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Speaker 2: biochemistry professor Nate Sorenson and his students. How about Kelvin

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Speaker 2: Harmon second in the ACC and long scrimmage plays. How

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Speaker 2: about that dynamic duel along the defensive line of James

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Speaker 2: Smith Williams and Laurel Murchison. Tie, We've been talking about

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Speaker 2: them NonStop all week. Yeah, we have some people saying,

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Speaker 2: some people saying Kyle Bombard is least he the ACC.

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Speaker 1: Could you go a half hour just talking against.

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Speaker 2: Touch back percentage? Ty? You want to talk about Donald Bitzer,

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Speaker 2: about Trudy McKay quantitative geneticis winner of the Wolf Prize

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Speaker 1: Realistically, now all right, pause, how much time did you

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, that's an important rule to commit to memory.

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Speaker 1: If you are going to Carter Finley Stadium. I'm Ty Hildebrant. Hello,

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Speaker 1: for week seven. And finally, Dan, if you are watching

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Speaker 1: That's right, We'll play those on our Sunday recap show.

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Speaker 1: So after all of that, in regard to NC State,

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Speaker 1: Clemson next week. I think a three point thirty game,

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Speaker 1: the makings. Dan not to bear the lead too much here,

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Speaker 1: but we've got a big slate of Week seven action.

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Speaker 1: So we had secretly Sassy Saturday a week ago. And

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Speaker 2: There was definite SaaS to everything, and with what this

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Speaker 1: So here's what we did. We went through There are

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Speaker 1: Well, let's start at three thirty. We've got a bunch

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Speaker 1: these in So you're saying no window this week, Well

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Speaker 1: Try to be back before two pm on the East coast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, catch the end of you know, maybe Minnesota, Ohio

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Speaker 2: Vandy is not great, Tennessee's not great. Uh, Miszoo's feisty

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Speaker 2: those points. I believe Georgia wins this game close, okay,

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Speaker 1: I do think you're right to this degree. LSU can

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Speaker 1: I think that's impossible for LSU where they're at offense.

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Speaker 1: But Georgia has been doing this thing. It's not a

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Speaker 2: Where you know, with the.

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Speaker 1: He's completing like seventy percent of his passes, which is nuts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to beat Georgia you really have to stretch them deep.

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Speaker 2: And I don't believe that Joe Burrow in this offense.

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Speaker 1: Okay, three point thirty on ABC Washington on the road

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Speaker 2: Let's say they're great, They're wonderful, they're relaxing, they sort

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Speaker 1: She worked out some knots and all that. Yeah, told

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Speaker 2: Maybe me and you're gonna get a couple's massage the

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Speaker 2: next time you're in New York. That could be very weird. Dan, Okay, perfect, But.

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Speaker 1: If we could bring the podcasting equipment in there with us.

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Speaker 2: As Washington in this situation, the massuse's delicate hands. Tell

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Speaker 1: I like Oregon because they should have beaten Stanford, and

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Speaker 1: But I feel like if Oregon and Washington get into

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a bad call. They're also coming off

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Speaker 2: pluckier UCLA team. I think DTR Dorian Thompson Robinson week

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're fully there. They don't get to

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Speaker 2: My concern as an Oregon fan is Washington's real good,

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Speaker 2: like Outson will be. For this Washington team would have

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Speaker 2: it's a bad matchup for Oregon offensively, although I think

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Speaker 2: of the double road and the bye week, in the

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Speaker 2: tough environments with a close spread, I'm going to take

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Speaker 2: that those points right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking Oregon out right thirty eight thirty one, which

433
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: of course means is going to be seventeen fourteen or something.

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Speaker 2: It hurts that you chose the Oregon Stanford scores high.

435
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: Oh I just hurt.

436
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Speaker 1: Did I do that inadvertently?

437
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 2: Debt? It's okay, it's okay.

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Speaker 1: The only other point that I'd add very quickly. You know,

439
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Speaker 1: Oregon's not great defensively, but they are better against them

440
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 1: one in the pass. And yes, that's significant in this

441
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: game because Like I said earlier, I think I want

442
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: Jake Browning throwing as much as possible in autsin stadium.

443
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: So if Oregon just goes ahead and puts eight guys

444
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Speaker 1: in the box and lets him throw sixty times, that

445
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: to me feels like a pretty damn good formula.

446
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 2: There's no Dante Pettis, there isn't There's no John Ross.

447
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: That's right, and that that makes me feel very happy.

448
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 2: All right?

449
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Speaker 1: Three thirty Big Ten Network Michigan State at Penn State.

450
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: The Knits are we actually we have the setup as well,

451
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Speaker 1: play it Big Cats. The Big Cats are a thirteen

452
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite here at home. Michigan State

453
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Speaker 1: won this one twenty seven to twenty four last year

454
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Speaker 1: in East Lansing. Now the rivalry comes back to state College.

455
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: We haven't talked too much about Michigan State this year,

456
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: and no, I think it's because they've been a huge disappointment.

457
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Speaker 1: Is that accurate?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Losing at Arizona State has not aged particularly well.

460
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Speaker 2: And it's I mean, Arizona State's fine, but they are

461
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: they shouldn't be ahead of where Michigan State has built

462
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: a program to be Michigan State.

463
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: Dan Yeah brought back nineteen starters from a year ago,

464
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Speaker 1: and here they are at three and two. They've perhaps

465
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Speaker 1: got three or four more losses on the schedule. Brian

466
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: Lilwurki makes too many mistakes. The offense can't run, they

467
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: don't have any big plays. The defense is fine, especially

468
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: against the run, but that's but not dominant, not dominant.

469
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Speaker 1: That's kind of the state of play here for Michigan

470
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Speaker 1: State in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, you're not wrong, and losing to Northwestern will

472
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 2: probably be okay by the end of the season. Northwestern

473
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Speaker 2: that classic growth team. The current spread is what it's

474
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Speaker 2: almost what a couple.

475
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Speaker 1: Of touchdows thirteen and a half here on the sheet.

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Speaker 2: That's too many points to me. I think there is

477
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 2: a not an extreme hangover. But this is a Penn

478
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Speaker 2: State team that, for better or worse, has played to

479
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 2: their competition for chunks of games. Yeah, they played down

480
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Speaker 2: to Pitt in bad weather for a half. They played

481
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Speaker 2: down to Illinois, ran all over them for a half

482
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Speaker 2: before the Nitney Lions turned it on. And I think

483
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Speaker 2: Penn State is susceptible to playing on another team's terms,

484
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: and Michigan State's goal will be to ugly it up

485
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Speaker 2: like they did last year in that weird environment. I

486
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: think Penn State wins this game. I don't think it's

487
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Speaker 2: by double digits. I think Penn State is the clear

488
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 2: better team that doesn't play like it for a chunk

489
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Speaker 2: of this game. I don't know what the weather's going

490
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: to be like if there's a weird rainy situation, but

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Speaker 2: I'll take Penn State in like a thirty to twenty three,

492
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Speaker 2: thirty one, twenty four, thirty one, twenty six, you know

493
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Speaker 2: something where I don't know if it's a backdoor cover

494
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Speaker 2: for Michigan State. I guess it might be a little

495
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: lower scoring twenty five to eighteen, but I think Penn

496
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: State plays down and escapes interesting.

497
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Speaker 1: I could totally see it going that way. I just

498
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: I think Trace mccerley is going to throw in Michigan State.

499
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: I believe I saw kJ Hamler is going to play

500
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: in this game. He of course leads Penn State in

501
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 1: both receiving guards and touchdown catches, which is significant. The

502
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: offense for Penn State is going to score points. The

503
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: question I think is whether Michigan States can score two

504
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: or to what degree can they score I just think,

505
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Speaker 1: do you.

506
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 2: Watch Penn State try to tackle against Ohio State.

507
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Speaker 1: I know, I know Michigan State's going to be revved

508
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: up to some degree against Michigan State because they've tried

509
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,479
Speaker 1: to fashion this game as a rivalry, whether or not

510
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: it is remains to be. I'm gonna go thirty one seventeen.

511
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: I think it's right around the number. I think Penn

512
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: State wins. I definitely think there's a chunk of this

513
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: game that feels the way you've described where Penn State's

514
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: playing down but ultimately maybe a front door cover here

515
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: or Penn State runs away with it late and covers

516
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: a spread.

517
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And I feel, by the way, for Felton Davis

518
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: and Cody White, some pretty good receivers sortaly stuck in

519
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: mud in that Michigan State offense.

520
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Speaker 1: Three thirty as well on ESPN two. You're gonna need

521
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: like eight TVs here a three thirty to watch all these.

522
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 2: Games going eight wide.

523
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Speaker 1: UCF on the road at Memphis, they are a four

524
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite. I am all in, all

525
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: in on one team here, Dan.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready. How do you feel about this one? Uh

527
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 2: U CF and lock it up for me? WHOA yeah.

528
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Speaker 2: Blunk of the Week.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Dan Okay explain.

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Speaker 2: So the line actually worries me a little bit. I

531
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Speaker 2: thought it would have been a little bit higher. I

532
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: don't love Memphis defense. UCFS defense has improved, albeit against

533
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: not all that much in the way of offense, So

534
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: I don't put a ton of stock in that because

535
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: by the end of last year their defense was in

536
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: a pretty tough place based on just how successful the

537
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: offense was and how quickly they got off the field

538
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: because they were scoring all the time, and the fact

539
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: that they had that monster back and forth against both

540
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,479
Speaker 2: USF and Memphis later on in the season. But I

541
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Speaker 2: like where UCF's mind is at, where they're mixing the

542
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: explosive plays with the more efficient looks or the more

543
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: efficient plays and drives. So ultimately, I think Memphis is

544
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: a step behind from where they were last year. I

545
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: like Demonte Coxy and Pop Williams. There's still that talent

546
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: in the receiving corps without Anthony Miller, but I think

547
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: they're a step behind. We've seen that at spots this year,

548
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 2: and I like the trajectory of UCF, and I think

549
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: eventually they win this game by I don't know, thirteen

550
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: to seventeen. Points. They comfortably won this game during the

551
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: regular season last year, yes, and then it was that

552
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: close back and forth in the conference championship game. So

553
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: I'm going with the Knights. I am going with a

554
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 2: not super comfortable but eventually double digit win here.

555
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: Interesting, Well, I like Memphis a lot, and I like

556
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: that Brady White is having a wonderful season.

557
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: Yes, it's been terrific. Good at home.

558
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: However, however of the week, let's go double barrel lock here, Dan,

559
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: here's what's underrated. Everyone talks about UCF's offense.

560
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: God, they're gonna lose now, aren't they.

561
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: Probably what's underrated is the defense. They've been so efficient

562
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: against better competition than Memphis and Memphis defense, they're forcing turnovers,

563
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: They're handing it over to the offense, which is first

564
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: in the nation at finishing drives with points. That is

565
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: significant in a game like this, which could devolve into

566
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: a shootout.

567
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: Let's be honest.

568
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: I think UCF, you CEF, like you said, is a

569
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: step above for Memphis. It's gonna be like when you

570
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: bump the difficulty up to All Madden. That's that kind

571
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: of game for Memphis. Here, UCF wins this one forty

572
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: one thirty on the road. Nice win, by the way,

573
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: the points bad. If I didn't mention, it's four and

574
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: a half double barrel you CF lock of the week

575
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: here for.

576
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: Me, I'm I don't even know who's played the harder schedule. Honestly,

577
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: u CF is Yukon, South Carolina State. FAU is probably

578
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: the best team that UCF has played, but PITT is

579
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: not great. And then Memphis, what they lose to Tulane

580
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: they beat, Oh, they lose to Navy as well. Right,

581
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: they've lost a couple of times, but those are very

582
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: specific kinds of offenses that they lost to. I like

583
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: like murdered Yukon.

584
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: I like F seven PMFS one. We've got West Virginia

585
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: on the road at Iowa State. If I am reading

586
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: my notes correctly here, this line opened at West Virginia

587
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: minus four and a half. It promptly jumped to West

588
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: Virginia minus six, which is fitting because West Virginia is

589
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: now up to number six in both the AP and

590
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: coaches pulled in so a little bit of symmetry sixty

591
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: six six, if you will. For the Mountaineers, who are

592
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,959
Speaker 1: now five and zero, have been very good this season.

593
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: The defense has been top five, which is a bit

594
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: unexpected depending on who you ask, and I'm pointing at you,

595
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: Dan in non visual medium, I understand the offense has

596
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: been predictably potent. I will also add that I can't

597
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: find any statistical reason to pick Iowa State in this game,

598
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: because as I see it here, West Virginia is better

599
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: across nearly every statistic and just across the board.

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00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: Did West Virginia a little bit of trivia, Did West

601
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: Virginia score more second half offensive points against Texas Tech

602
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: on the road or last year against Iowa State on

603
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: the road? No, they did not, So the answer is

604
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: a trick question that the answer is the answer is

605
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: zero for both. They did not score any points against

606
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: Iowa State in the second half last year in Morgantown,

607
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: and they did not score any offensive points in the

608
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: second half against Texas Tech this year. All in on

609
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: brock Purty, Okay, interesting new Iowa State true freshman third

610
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: string quarterback relieving zeb Nolan too a lot of success

611
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: at Oklahoma State. There isn't a lot of statistical reason

612
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: to take Iowa State here. The game is in Ames.

613
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: Is it at night?

614
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: Night?

615
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: Ames at Night? Huge opponent with a quarterback gunning for

616
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: the Heisman Trophy probably fell off of that with three

617
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: red zone turnovers last week against Kansas, but nonetheless a

618
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: big primetime spot where there aren't a lot of big

619
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: primetime games other than Michigan Wisconsin at night. So I'm

620
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: going to go Clones here. I know David Montgomery is questionable,

621
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: but he didn't play last week against Oklahoma States. I

622
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: think Keem Butler has a very nice day for the Clones.

623
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 2: I think Brock Party. I don't know what sort of

624
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: nickname we need to come up with, at least I

625
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: need to come up with, because I'm so completely in

626
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: on on the brock Star. No Brotar.

627
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: Okay, that's not bad for a first attempt.

628
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, we're gonna work this. So we're gonna work

629
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: show party, the party like a brock Star. It's not bad, Dan, Okay,

630
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: it's very berminy. Yeah, and that's what worries me. Yeah,

631
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Iowa State or yeah, Iowa State here outright.

632
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: I think they win this game back and forth. The

633
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 2: spread is once again, what about six points? Six points? Yeah? Yeah,

634
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 2: I think they take this thirty one to twenty eight.

635
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: Whoa Okay, Iowa State's my home dog of the week,

636
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: kers home dog of the week. I think I'm with

637
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: you on the outright. Yeah, I can't find any statistical reason,

638
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: but here's what I know. Iowa start is in every game,

639
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: every game, and now with pretty like a brock Star.

640
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: I'm so ashamed as a starting quarterback. I'm just not

641
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: sure we know what we're gonna see. So for me,

642
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: this is tough because I was really high.

643
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: In West Virginia. You weren't.

644
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: I kind of want to rub it in, but Iowa

645
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: State just scares the hell out of me.

646
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: They're like a.

647
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Speaker 1: Poor man's a and m in that every game is

648
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Speaker 1: sort of a journey. So let's go Iowa State as

649
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Speaker 1: the home dog. Let's go, let's get nuts, Let's go

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Speaker 1: Iowa State. Outright, I think a little bit more offense

651
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Speaker 1: than your prediction. I'll say thirty three to thirty one,

652
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Speaker 1: but a really good night game here and names.

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Speaker 2: Wow, a journey. Life is a highway and you're you're

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Speaker 2: riding it all the way to Ames. That's right, baby, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Seven point thirty ABC Wisconsin at Michigan. The Wolverine's a

656
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Speaker 1: seven and a half point favorite. This is a this

657
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: is a fun matchup here. I want to bring up

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Speaker 2: Oh, let's do it, but.

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Speaker 1: Indulge me again if you don't mind.

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00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: I mean, we're an NC State show, so you're really

662
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Speaker 2: going off the beaten path. I apologize.

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Speaker 1: Our friend Bill Connolly, he does this thing with his

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Speaker 1: SMP numbers where he comes up with an adjusted scoring margin,

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Speaker 1: and I've always found it to be one of the

666
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Speaker 1: better measures for how a team is playing. So, like

667
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Speaker 1: we talked about, so what is that?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: We talked about how good Michigan looked last week when

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Speaker 1: they beat Maryland by three touchdowns. Bill's numbers say that

671
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Speaker 1: in that game, Michigan played well enough to win by

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Speaker 1: thirty five mm hmm okay, so it's it's, by his measure,

673
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: a truer indication of how well a team played. What

674
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: the margin should have been if everything amounted in points.

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Speaker 1: M hm. That's true across.

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Speaker 2: The board from Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Every game, with the exception of that Nebraska game which

678
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: they ran away and hid from Nebraska, every game Michigan

679
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: is laid better than the final score would indicate. And

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00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: for me, that's significant. It's something to keep in mind,

681
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: because you know, we've had fun with Michigan and all that,

682
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: but this is a team that's loaded. This is a

683
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: team that's seemingly getting better each week. There's a lot

684
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: to be fearful of if you have to play Michigan

685
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season, because they've taken

686
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: some lumps here. But the defense is still rock solid,

687
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: and it feels to me like the offense is getting better.

688
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: Here, I'm going to take the phrase the defense is

689
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 2: still rock solid. First of all, I think you're under

690
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 2: selling Michigan. Okay, I'm not trying to know where Shaun

691
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: Gary has been beat up, and there have been a

692
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 2: couple of lapses, but ultimately, this team ninety six point

693
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: four percent of the time, has been nothing short of excellence.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

695
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're very good. And the opposite is sort of

696
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say the opposite. But saying the defense is

697
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: still rock solid does not necessarily apply to Wisconsin.

698
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't.

699
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 2: The BYU loss looks way worse with age, and I

700
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: can understand just looking past BYU and assuming going through

701
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 2: the motions will be good enough to beat the Koogs.

702
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 2: I get that, But they still lost to BYU, and

703
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 2: the secondary has been a quiet strength of this team.

704
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: They you know, it is allowed Wisconsin a very up

705
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: looks up front and getting after the quarterback. Wisconsin's not

706
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 2: getting after the quarterback. Wisconsin is struggling against decent passers.

707
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 2: We saw it last week against Adrian Martinez, who is

708
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: not the most seasoned guy. No, he eventually, I believe

709
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 2: will be pretty good for Scott Frost, but he and JD.

710
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: Spielman did an unexpectedly pretty amazing job against this Wisconsin defense.

711
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: And while the Wisconsin offense looks to be hitting on

712
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: all cylinders, I'm a little bit worried that this is

713
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: just a pretty incredible matchup for Michigan. And so I

714
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 2: think Michigan wins this game by thirteen fifteen points at home,

715
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: which has certainly been much friendlier for Jim Harbaugh since

716
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: he's gotten to Ann Arbor. And there's just something a

717
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: little bit crooked, a little bit screwy about this year

718
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: is Wisconsin team. And it's it's injuries, it's the attrition

719
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: from last year. For a myriad of reasons, they're just

720
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: not the same. At receiver. Jonathan Taylor tailback is incredible

721
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 2: he's a star and well weather everything.

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00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: He's a star. He's absolutely a star. But I look,

723
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: I've even learned to appreciate Alex Hornybrook in a way

724
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: that I hadn't in previous campaigns.

725
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: He's had long stretches of playing really well.

726
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely, but I think I'm with you. What worries me

727
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: about Wisconsin is that defense now, and they're just they're

728
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: not getting the same kind of pass rush this year,

729
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: and in turn that's affecting their efficiency as a pass defense.

730
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Speaker 1: So when you got a guy like Shaye Patterson, who

731
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Speaker 1: I think is getting better, is still very dangerous. Yeah,

732
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: a good thrower, you've got the defense as a bedrock

733
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Speaker 1: that's going to keep you in pretty much every game.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're that much better than Wisconsin,

735
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 1: but I think eight to ten points better as where

736
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: I come down something like twenty seven to seventeen Michigan

737
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: wins this game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen and we just spoke a lot about

739
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Speaker 2: Wisconsin and Michigan's defense with Michigan's offense, and if it's

740
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: that same sort of trajectory that's been one of my

741
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Speaker 2: favorite words this season that we saw Jake rudock a

742
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, three years ago, where he looks

743
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 2: shaky early on but gets sort of the rhythms of

744
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: the Michigan offense. I think we could be seeing more

745
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: and more of that from Shaye Patterson. He's obviously gotten

746
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: incredibly comfortable with Zach Gentry Donovan Peoples. Jones has been

747
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: more of a situational playmaker than consistently making plays downfield,

748
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 2: but he finds the end zone plenty. And the offensive line,

749
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Speaker 2: while still not to me great, they've been good enough.

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Speaker 2: I think they've They've definitely improved from where they were

751
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: last year. A new offensive line coach, Karan Higgen. I

752
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 2: think Chris Heavens is healthy this week, so a little

753
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: deeper at running back. I think they should be able

754
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: to do enough to win on early downs and get

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00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: Michigan to third and ones, twos and threes.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Well, there you go. We both agree. I

757
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: think we agreed on every game, with the exception of one,

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Speaker 1: the Penn State game.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Thursday Night. Thursday Night. We've got a

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Speaker 1: and TCU. The point spread is seven points in favor

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Speaker 1: of TCU. They're playing this one at TCU. Are we

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Speaker 2: No, especially since Sean Robinson got hurt. I think he's

828
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Speaker 2: probably going to score points and they have their own

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Speaker 2: Alan Bowman looks like he will be going against the

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Speaker 2: Frogs because he no longer has a like half collapsed lung,

834
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Speaker 1: He would until the end of time not be able

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Speaker 2: It's I can't afford collapsing in that region. No, I

838
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Speaker 2: think if TCU. I mean, this has not been a

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Speaker 2: fun year for TCU. They have they get up for

840
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 2: Ohio State, they have that letdown against Texas they sneak

841
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: by Iowa State. I like the fact that TCU a

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00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: bye week going into a tough game that'll help to

843
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: define the second half of their season. So yes, I

844
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 2: think they do win this game by eight or nine points.

845
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: Texas Tech is still very much a mystery right now.

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00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 2: Are they are? They storm back against West Virginia wasn't

847
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,479
Speaker 2: quite enough, but I think TCU at home has enough

848
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: answers on that defense to get some stops.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that the correct team is favored here,

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00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go. Yeah, I'm gonna go points Texas

851
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: Tech plus the points. I don't know if they win outright,

852
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: but it just feels like too many points here. And

853
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: I do trust in their offense to score. So one

854
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: thing you can trust in Texas Tech to do the numbers,

855
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: like Tech a lot to keep this a lot closer.

856
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah they do. They do. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Saturday high noon ESPN Florida at Vanderbilt. The point spread

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00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: here is seven. I said it last week. This is

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Speaker 1: a prime let down look ahead sandwich.

860
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: Dave, you got don sandwich. I'm so hungry. I'm so hungry.

861
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a full on sandwich. It

862
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: might be an open faced let down look ahead sandwich,

863
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: because there's a buy on deck here for Florida. But

864
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: of course, the big win at home twenty seven to

865
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: nineteen over LSU last Saturday. Now they go on the

866
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: road to.

867
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: Val let Down, look ahead to Stada.

868
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I don't think Florida loses, but I do

869
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: think Vandy gives him a game. I do think Vandy

870
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: covers the point spread at home here. Let's say Florida

871
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: wins by a twenty twenty four to twenty one score.

872
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so Vandy does cover. I would love to

873
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: take the doors here, love Nashville friends with a former player.

874
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 2: I just it's all offensive lineman in my life. I

875
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: shout out Kennan Arkin though. Yeah, I'm going to go

876
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: Florida comfortably here. I would love to take Vandy. I

877
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: if I could sit here and say, you know what,

878
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: Vandy's defense is not bad, That's where it is for me.

879
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: I'm am all in on Vandy. Vandy's defense is that bad.

880
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: I'm going Florida. I'm not thinking twice. Florida will keep

881
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 2: it simple and still succeed running all over the doors.

882
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 1: Why don't you join me on the dark side here,

883
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: because you know that I'm big on these situational plays.

884
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: I called it with San Diego State earlier in the year,

885
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: and you.

886
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: Just then San Diego State has that defense though they

887
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 2: do have the defense. You're right about that. Florida wins

888
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 2: this thirty seven to seventeen.

889
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: Also at high noon, we've got ABC broadcasting Nebraska at Northwestern.

890
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: The point spread here started at eight and a half

891
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: in favor of Northwesterns come all the way down to

892
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: three and a half. That's a lot of money coming

893
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: in on Nebraska. And I like Nebraska because of Adrian Martinez.

894
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 1: I think he's exciting. Northwestern's all over the place. I

895
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: honestly don't know what to make of them. They lose

896
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: to Duke and Akron, they almost beat Michigan, they did

897
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: beat Michigan State a week ago. I this is probably

898
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: a really horrible game to watch, but Nebraska's defense is

899
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: the worst unit on the field, So I'm going to

900
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: go to Western here.

901
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's both good and bad because Northwestern, as we

902
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: saw last week with what six seven eight yards rushing

903
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 2: total Northwestern in a win over Michigan State, is not

904
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: necessarily the team best built to take advantage. Although perhaps

905
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 2: Nebraska's run defense is the cure for the common offense.

906
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: Northwestern definitely takes a step forward last week Situationally, I

907
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 2: wish I could like Nebraska more than I do. Two

908
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: straight weeks on the road. You know, if you're a

909
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: believer in the body blow theory. They got pushed around

910
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 2: upfront by this Wisconsin line for four straight quarters every

911
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: play and going to Northwestern another good defense. I think

912
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Cats. They are getting to that

913
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 2: place like other teams and other conferences similarly, where they're

914
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: not very good, but they're good enough to take advantage

915
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 2: and spotlight your mistakes. Okay, so I really truly did

916
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 2: want to take Nebraska. Excuse me, because it feels like

917
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: they're gaining confidence last week, you know, putting up yards,

918
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: scoring points, you know, not a lot, but some against Wisconsin.

919
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 2: I just the situational play is not good for me.

920
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: I think Northwestern ultimately wins this by a touchdown. I'm

921
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: gonna say. Twenty eight twenty.

922
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: Three thirty sec Network Texas A and M at South Carolina.

923
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 1: South Carolina two and a half point favorite, of course,

924
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: a nice win for both schools. Last week with A

925
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: and M knocking off Kentucky, South Carolina finding a way

926
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: to get the job done thirty seven thirty five over Miszoo.

927
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: I am gonna stay consistent here. A and M continues

928
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: to scare the hell out of me. They probably will

929
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: all season long.

930
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 2: I also think.

931
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: They're better across the board here, which is a good reason,

932
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: as good a reason as any to pick one team

933
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: over another. I like A and M outright here. I'm

934
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: not sure if I said that South Carolina was favored

935
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: or A and M was favored. It does look like

936
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:43,959
Speaker 1: A and M is favored by two and a half.

937
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna I'm gonna lay the points here on

938
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: the road.

939
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 2: I think A and M wins. Yeah, I think we

940
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: agree and never forgets. This is the Kenny Till game.

941
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 2: That's right. This is the Kenny Trail game from Holy

942
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 2: col two thousands thirteen. I don't even remember fourteen.

943
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: I remember coming home from the mysterious day job and

944
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: throwing myself in front of the TV to watch this game.

945
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: I was all amped up for the start of the

946
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: college football season, and I remember the Kenny Trull game

947
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: and I was like, who is this guy? He's incredible,

948
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: and then it just sort of spiral from there. But yeah,

949
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: I mean, we always had that one game, Dan.

950
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: It was twenty fourteen. I think A and M wins

951
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 2: this comfortably. I do not like where South Carolina's defense

952
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 2: is heading. Both of these teams in letdown spots textas

953
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 2: A and M the overtime win South Carolina with that

954
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: last second win, we'll see who starts. Who actually gets

955
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: the start at quarterback for the game Cocks. But I

956
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: think I am I'm pushing all of my Trayvon Williams

957
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 2: chips to the center of the table, and I am

958
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 2: hoping for good things.

959
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: Seven pm, ESPN two. This is officially the Vegas Knows

960
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: Something Game of the Week. Okay, got Miami a six

961
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: point only a six point road favorite at Virginia. We

962
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: haven't talked much about Uva this year, but they are

963
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: actually making some good strides. It's top forty five, i'd

964
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 1: say team at the moment if the numbers are correct. Okay,

965
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: that's a pretty big improvement, right considering where Virginia's been

966
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: over last decade. That's an improvement for UVA right now.

967
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: They're sitting at three and two. They're running the ball

968
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: pretty well. I worry that the defense gives out against

969
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: a team like Miami. So I am going to take

970
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: the Canes here, but I do fear that I am

971
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 1: walking into a bit of a trap. Of my own making,

972
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: so give me the Canes. Would not at all surprise

973
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: me if Virginia covers this points predator, if they win

974
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: the game out right.

975
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 2: This is the remember Kurt Bankert's first half last year,

976
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 2: That's what this game is, uh for sure? Letdown spot first,

977
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: Miami going on the road. Virginia is not a team

978
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: like Northwestern or Utah that is built to just spotlight problems.

979
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 2: But I don't know. Something's rubbing me the wrong way

980
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 2: about this Miami team. The loss of Amon Richards really

981
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: is a huge bummer. Hopefully he gets better just physically

982
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 2: and lives a really good life, but he has done

983
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 2: playing for Miami, which will affect their offense moving forward. Virginia,

984
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 2: there's a lot too kind of like, but not a

985
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 2: lot to really really like. They generate some big plays.

986
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 2: I do like their receivers a good amount, but this

987
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 2: is a tough Miami secondary. I'm going to take the points, okay.

988
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 2: I think I think Virginia does enough in this game

989
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: to put a pretty big scare into Miami, but Miami

990
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: pulls it out.

991
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: Virginia is like the girl or guy after summer break

992
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: in high school where they come back. It's like, hey,

993
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: what are they up to? What's going on over there?

994
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 2: They're three and a half inches taller. It's going on

995
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: over there? Moving off, you can tap backboard.

996
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: Ten thirty pm Eastern on FS one, Colorado at USC

997
00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: USC a touchdown favorite here. Look, I'm gonna take Colorado

998
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: with the points. Yeah, they're good against the pass. They

999
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: should be able to generate a pass rush against J. T.

1000
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: Daniels and I'm just gonna lay it out there. I

1001
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 1: am afraid for my life if I bet against Colorado.

1002
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: Those fans were so mean earlier in the year. I

1003
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: don't want to put myself through that.

1004
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: It was free range, cruelty. Tie. It wasn't too bad.

1005
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: So we USC is leaps and bounds more talented than

1006
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 2: anything Colorado has faced thus far. Yes, agree, Maybe it's

1007
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: a bit of a letdown spot in that close win,

1008
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 2: close ish win against Arizona State USC coming off of

1009
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 2: bye I believe, right, Yeah, at home against Colorado, I think,

1010
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: and it's like a it's a late eastern time kickoff, right,

1011
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 2: It's it's going to go deep into the nights Situationally,

1012
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 2: I'm just going to take the points. I think USC

1013
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: pulls it out. I am concerned about USC secondary in

1014
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: this game. It's not just Leaviska Channaults. I think Colorado's

1015
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 2: a able to move the ball with a number of

1016
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: different options. I like Steven Montes a lot against this

1017
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: pretty beat up You.

1018
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: Say Steven or Stevie Stey, and that's what I thought.

1019
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 2: I heard. It wasn't sure, and I like what I

1020
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: saw with Colorado's defense holding up pretty nicely against ASU

1021
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 2: last week. I think USC pulls this out. I think

1022
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 2: it's the first loss of the season for the Buffs.

1023
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 2: I'm still not crazy about this USC defense or offense

1024
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: for that matter. It's almost giving it away against Arizona,

1025
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: and just USC once again is a team that has

1026
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 2: the ability, has the playmakers, has the depth to beat

1027
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: everybody on their schedule by thirteen to seventeen points, and situationally,

1028
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 2: they're just not there. They are. I don't know if

1029
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 2: it's a coaching thing. I don't know if it's a

1030
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 2: focus thing, but I do enjoy that it's at home

1031
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 2: in LA. I think they pulled this one out in

1032
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 2: a bit of a shootout, forty five to forty one.

1033
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: We've got six games here. I've got these in the

1034
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: other games. Other notable games with big point spread's bucket.

1035
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go rapid fire. Okay, just give me real

1036
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: quick quick Kitters twelve PMFS one Minnesota a twenty nine

1037
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: and a half point dog on the road against Ohio State.

1038
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: Who you got, Ohio State. I don't like Minnesota's offense

1039
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: and their defense was good and now it's not.

1040
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Ohio State as what we agree with.

1041
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: Twelve PM SEC Network Tennessee at Auburn. This line opened

1042
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 1: at Auburn minus eighteen. It's come down to Auburn minus

1043
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: fifteen and a half.

1044
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 2: Dan. Who you got. I'm gonna take the points here.

1045
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 2: Tennessee is not particularly good Auburn just we saw them

1046
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,479
Speaker 2: against low level SEC a couple weeks ago, and since

1047
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 2: against Arkansas a few weeks ago, and I don't know.

1048
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 2: Tennessee on the road scares me. I'll be honest with you.

1049
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: Taking Tennessee point scares me. But I think Auburn wins

1050
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 2: this thirty to seventeen, and that's good enough to cover.

1051
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Auburn minus anything here.

1052
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 2: Tennessee's pretty dreadful. Yeah they are.

1053
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: Two thirty NBC Pitt at Notre Dame. Notre Dame, a

1054
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:10,959
Speaker 1: three touchdown favorite. Dan Pitt is pretty bad. Actually, note

1055
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: in case of breaking news, in case you're playing the

1056
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: home game, Pitt's not been good this year Notre Dame,

1057
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: of course, coming off that win on the road in

1058
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: Lane Stadium a week ago. I don't know if I

1059
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: see much letdown effect here for Notre Dame, but I

1060
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: am contractually obligated to go anyone plus the points against

1061
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: my Irish, so gimme Pitt.

1062
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 2: I am going to happily give those points. Pitt's been

1063
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 2: terrible against the run as Notre Dame has been peeking

1064
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 2: on the ground. Pitt is now even more beat up

1065
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: with the loss of a linebacker. Captain. I'm going to

1066
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 2: take the Irish to comfortably win this game by thirty

1067
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 2: and call it forty seven sixteen.

1068
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: Three thirty on ESPN. Baylor on the road at Texas.

1069
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: The line here opened at Texas minus seventeen, come down

1070
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: some to Texas minus fourteen. Is there a letdown effect

1071
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: here in play for Texas?

1072
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 2: After that?

1073
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Speaker 1: Big Texas is backy program changing kind of win a

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00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,479
Speaker 1: week ago in the Cotton Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to take like a CSI forensic look

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00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 2: at Texas's schedule right now, let's do it. Non marquee

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00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: game against Maryland. They play close and lose. Non marquee

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00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 2: game against Tulsa. They almost lose and look sloppy. Marquee

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Speaker 2: game against usc They look great. Marquee game against TSU TCU.

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00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 2: They look great at Kansas State non marquee game. Nineteen fourteen.

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00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: Marquee game against Oklahoma, they pull it out in the end,

1082
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 2: huge plays, huge moments. Non marquee game against Baylor. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna take the points.

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00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go points here. This is a de facto

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00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,919
Speaker 1: national championship game for Baylor. This one clearly means more

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00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: for them than it does for Texas. So even though

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00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: they were very mistakes, it's in Austin, right, It's in Austin,

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00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: that's for sure, and that will definitely play a factor.

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00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: But this game is meaningful for Baylor. They're a very

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00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: mistake pron a week ago against k State, but if

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00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: they can just get it a little bit more together

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00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: on offense, I think they could definitely keep this one

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00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: closer than that fourteen and a half point spread.

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Speaker 2: Do you know who else it's meaningful for? Is that

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00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: our good friend Adam Amin, who's calling this game. Let's

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Speaker 2: have a listen. Adam Amin here with your solid verbal voice.

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Speaker 3: Meal of the Week could not be more excited to

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Speaker 3: visit one of the best cities in the country for food, Austin, Texas.

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Speaker 3: This week we have number nine Texas hosting Baylor three

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Speaker 3: point thirty Eastern on ESPN this Saturday. There's a million

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00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 3: places to go to for tacos. I'm not even gonna

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Speaker 3: bother diving into all the possibilities. There's a million places

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00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 3: to go to for great barbecue. My hit and Jem

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Speaker 3: introduced to me by my good friend Justin Ware of

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00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 3: ESPN Radio. He said, Griselda's I enjoyed a phenomenal brunch there.

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Speaker 3: Sunday brunch is one of the best you'll have in

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Speaker 3: the entire city of Austin, Texas. I highly recommend it.

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00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 3: But more importantly Dan hmm. I don't know about Ty,

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01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 3: but at least Dan, for sure, I need picks for Austin.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I can actually give one here, I had to,

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Speaker 1: says my Twitter avatar for about eight years. Oh right,

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Speaker 1: me eating the breakfast taco as mid schew. Was it

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Speaker 1: Pueblo Viejo?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, said in such an authentic way.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Pueblo Viejo is an excellent breakfast taco place

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01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 2: and general taco place. It's on East six but it's

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Speaker 2: right next to downtown. I'll just stay on sixth Street. Really,

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Speaker 2: I mean there's you should explore all of Austin, but

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Speaker 2: easy Tiger for coffee and pastries. You can get really

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Speaker 2: good burgers and salsa verde fries at Casino El Camino

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Speaker 2: on six Oh, yeah, we were there. We went to

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Speaker 2: Casino El Camino. Incredible and yes, Peblo Viejo is just incredible.

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Speaker 2: It's super low key and if you want one more place,

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Speaker 2: I've heard incredible things. Haven't been there. Camp personally vouch

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Speaker 2: about swear swear tes swear.

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Speaker 1: Tay s u E r t E sounds dangerous, swear

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Speaker 1: to Okay, Moving on, Thank you, Adam, seven pm ESPN.

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Speaker 1: Two more games here to discuss Missouri at Alabama Alabama

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01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: twenty eight and a half points, the favorite. Any reason

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Speaker 1: to not go Bama minus anything?

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Speaker 2: I cannot find one. No Bama minus anything? It is

1133
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 2: we agree. Can I ask you a question to totally

1134
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 2: derail things? Please? This has been a week that has

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01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 2: been for whatever reason, chock full of let's not crown

1136
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 2: Bama yet, as people are saying things like to a

1137
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 2: tongue has been incredible.

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01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: We got an email from somebody asking us if Alabama

1139
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: was overrated.

1140
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 2: Alabama's overrated. We've gotten tweets. I saw Bill Connolly, you know,

1141
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 2: he wrote something about Tua and historically, if he's cherry

1142
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 2: picking the best games of recent Heisman quarterbacks that they

1143
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 2: don't even compare to, ta has done thus far against everybody.

1144
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 2: And normally I would say with Alabama's schedule, which I

1145
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 2: think is better than most are pointing to, I think

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Speaker 2: A and M is a pretty good team. Ole Miss,

1147
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, has a terrible defense, but they probably

1148
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 2: have the third best quarterback in the conference. I think

1149
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 2: Jordan t'amu's had a better year than Drew Locke. Yeah,

1150
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 2: and so I thought that was a legitimate offensive test

1151
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 2: with those receivers. And I would normally be hesitant about saying,

1152
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: dune deal Alabama's there's nobody that can beat Alabama, and

1153
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say that now, but we do

1154
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 2: have a track record, we do have a benefit of

1155
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 2: the doubt that Nick Saban has earned that maybe nobody

1156
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 2: historically has earned and so I think it's okay even

1157
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: without them having played against the Auburn defense or the

1158
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: LSU defense or potentially the Georgia defense in the championship

1159
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 2: game to say Alabama is excellent and to just plant

1160
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 2: that flag and say I don't care who disagrees Alabama's excellence.

1161
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 2: And it's very strange to watch them play and say,

1162
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. They've only played Louisiana,

1163
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 2: Lafayette at A and M and Arkansas. No, No, Alabama's there.

1164
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: Can I just tell you how brave it is to

1165
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: go out on that limb thank you, and to build

1166
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: a case for Alabama as the best team in the country.

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Speaker 2: I've been trying. I've been psyching myself out to really

1168
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 2: come out as an Alabama believer today. Very well thought out,

1169
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 2: thank you, very well delivered any but no, there is

1170
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 2: that like weird backlash at this point.

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Speaker 1: Well, people are just looking for hot takes, Dan, That's true,

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Speaker 1: They're just looking for takes. I'm with you, Bama minus anything.

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Speaker 1: Final game here on the slate at least on our sheet,

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Speaker 1: ten pm Friday night, going back in time, Arizona at Utah,

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Speaker 1: Utah a fourteen point favorite here. Dan saw raise some

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01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: eyebrows scoring a bunch of points last week. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go Utes here to win this game, but not by fourteen,

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Speaker 1: not at all.

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Speaker 2: By fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Give me Arizona plus the points.

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01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take the points as well. I think

1182
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 2: Arizona is below average. But there's something weird about a

1183
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 2: Friday night game Utah coming. It's a short week, so

1184
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 2: things are just a little bit off obviously for both teams.

1185
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think there's a letdown factor at play here.

1186
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna take those points. Utah wins this game.

1187
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: Are there any other games FBS games? I don't know, man,

1188
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:38,919
Speaker 2: So we mentioned the Thursday and Friday night once app

1189
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Speaker 2: State Sure than ever. App State comfortably beat Arkansas State

1190
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Speaker 2: on that was Tuesday night, right, yep? The Dodgers advance.

1191
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 2: Love that, ty, I love that. Your Yankees? Who's starting

1192
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 2: for the Yankees later?

1193
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: Uh?

1194
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 2: Nobody? The Yankees? How dare you know? I had to

1195
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 2: think about that here? I know I'm a bad person.

1196
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 2: Louisville Boston College BC is a chance to get a

1197
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 2: fifth win. That's something. North Texas very quietly at five

1198
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 2: and one, they should go to six and one, playing

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Speaker 2: against a Southern miss team that I'm not a huge

1200
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 2: believer in. We talked about most of the headliners. Ohio

1201
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,919
Speaker 2: niu is I think could be a pretty fun game.

1202
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 2: That's that's in n I use hosting that game. Yeah,

1203
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 2: I think Temple has a good opportunity to take a

1204
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 2: step forward. Illinois on a one game Big ten winning

1205
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 2: streak could take down Purdue at home. I'm just saying,

1206
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 2: watch out drive for six is real? Tie, Utah say

1207
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 2: another quiet team, they should go to five and one.

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01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 2: Houston could go to five and one with a feisty

1209
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 2: East Carolina team who has yet to win a game

1210
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:49,439
Speaker 2: in the American UCLA Cal listen, if you're a UCLA fan,

1211
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 2: and you are, if you are checking your list twice,

1212
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 2: checking your list and checking it twice. They might need

1213
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 2: to beat Cal to win a game. And that's in Berkeley.

1214
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 2: Tie's that's in Berkeley. Beyond that, poison Nevada could be

1215
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 2: a little bit interesting. That's a late night game that

1216
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 2: because there could be a lot of points there. But

1217
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 2: otherwise Tie, just a very simple request, Yeah, please, any

1218
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 2: will you drop that big stanky, surging, squirming, slipping drum

1219
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 2: end five.

1220
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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe baby here we go? Yeah. Friday night, seven pm,

1221
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: We've got holy Cross at Harvard. Harvard is a thirteen

1222
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: and a half point home favorite.

1223
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 2: Who you Got? Social Network is one of my probably

1224
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 2: four to five favorite movies ever. Give me the Crimson.

1225
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: I am gonna go Harvard as well. Twelve pm on Saturday,

1226
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: Cornell at two and two traveling to Colgate. The Gators

1227
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: are five you oh, overall three and zero in conference,

1228
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: and it just so happens if you're into such things.

1229
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: They're a thirteen points bread in this football game, Dan,

1230
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 1: Who you got?

1231
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 2: Hamilton, New York's finest the Colgate Gators aka the Colgate Raiders.

1232
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 2: They win this game by twenty just a lights out defense.

1233
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 2: Shout out to James Holland. Let's go Gators as well.

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Speaker 1: Twelve thirty Saturday, Fordham at ozho and five traveling down

1235
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: here to Goodman Stadium to square off against the Lehigh

1236
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: Mountain Hawks. Lehigh currently at one in four. This is

1237
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: their first conference game and we're in week seven again.

1238
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: I don't understand the Patriot League scheduling.

1239
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 2: Oh it's wonderful.

1240
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: Lehi finds himself. I believe a thirteen point favorite in

1241
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: this game, Dan, who you got?

1242
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 2: Give me the engineers? And where should the visiting Rams

1243
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 2: eat breakfast? In beautiful Bethlehempa's a Blue Sky what's the

1244
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 2: name of that pancake? There's a Blue Sky Cafe. But

1245
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 2: I would recommend Billy's Downtown Diner. And I went to

1246
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 2: Blue Sky and I liked it a lot.

1247
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good place. Good place, Billy's or Blue Sky

1248
01:07:56,120 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: Billy's Downtown Diner is my recommendation. One b now buck

1249
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: now at one in five traveling to Monmouth, they are

1250
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: three and two, Mom, they heavy favorite?

1251
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 2: Who you got? Yeah, I'm not going Nellie's here now

1252
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 2: love Lewisbourg. I'm going Monmouth here.

1253
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: And finally I agree with you by the we agree.

1254
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 1: We were three point thirty on Saturday. We've got Georgetown

1255
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 1: away away from Multi sport Field. They're two and five,

1256
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: one and zero in conference, coming down here as well

1257
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 1: to East in squaring off against the Lafayette Leopards at

1258
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 1: one in four, Dan, who.

1259
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 2: You got Lafayette giving two and a half points? A

1260
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 2: lot of actions swinging the leaps way in Vegas tie, Yeah,

1261
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 2: a lot of action. I think Lafayette gets it together,

1262
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 2: oh in one in conference, but I think they get

1263
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 2: to five hundred with a win over the Hoyas. I know,

1264
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 2: Georgetown looking up this year, Lafayette down year. Everybody understands

1265
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 2: that we talked about this extensively on our Patrio League

1266
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 2: preview episodes. But I am gonna go. I'm gonna go

1267
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 2: the eddies here to keep it, keep it moving upward.

1268
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: By the way, if I could very quickly, of the

1269
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,919
Speaker 1: seven teams in the Patriot League, here are the records

1270
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: of these treaties. The overall records Colgate five and zero,

1271
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: having a season for the ages, of course, Georgetown two

1272
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: and four in second place, Buck Now one in five,

1273
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: Lehigh one and four, Lafayette one and four, Fordham zero

1274
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: to five, and holy Cross somehow and last with the

1275
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: record of one in five though they have one a

1276
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: football game here. Not great for the Patriot League, very

1277
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 1: top heavy, with Colgate leading the charge.

1278
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 2: I believe, and I'm looking it up right now. The

1279
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 2: Patriot League dot Org is slow to respond because obviously

1280
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 2: being inundated with traffic as the world swarms to see

1281
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 2: what's going on with Week seven in the pat League.

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Speaker 2: But I believe Colgate was giving up. Okay, it's loading now.

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Speaker 2: I believe they're scoring defense. Yes, they are allowing four

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Speaker 2: point six points per game. Well, hell yeah Gators. All right,

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Speaker 2: That's all I got there. They are an FCS legitimate team.

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Speaker 1: I'm Recolgate beat Alabama on the next episode of the Solid.

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Speaker 2: Why is an Alabama scheduling?

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Speaker 1: Colgate at soliverbal dot com is the website you can

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Speaker 1: to your device of choice.

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Speaker 2: Crazy three.

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Speaker 1: We talk college football year round, especially now, being so

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Speaker 1: it is the season. Also, if you're watching the games

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Speaker 1: this weekend. Four A weight verbal one is the phone

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Speaker 1: number call in stream of consciousness whatever comes to mind.

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Speaker 1: You're watching the games. You got something you need to

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Speaker 1: get off your chest, Call us up, leave a voice message,

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Speaker 1: we'll mix it up. We'll play it hopefully on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: As part of our reverb segment one final bit of

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Speaker 1: housekeeping if I could right, I have been slacking off mightily.

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Speaker 1: As you know, there's been a lot going on in

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Speaker 1: this end, so I haven't been haven't been as forward

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Speaker 1: leaning as they need to be. As it relates to

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Speaker 1: our hop fensive coordinators, Oh yes, I almost screwed that up.

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Speaker 1: Hop fensive coordinator. Very difficult to say. We have co

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Speaker 1: hop fensive coordinators this week. The first is my good

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Speaker 1: friend Rob, who's a loyal overballer who recommends Harpoon Flannel Friday.

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Speaker 1: He says it's a hoppy amber ale that screams fall.

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Speaker 1: Perfect for the first cool autumn Saturday when you have

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Speaker 1: to layer up after six months of wearing nothing but

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Speaker 1: a T shirt.

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Speaker 2: This is a hell of a can. Yeah flannel, it's

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Speaker 2: a flannel design cool. There appears to be a little

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Speaker 2: like a bulldog or something on there. A mastiff, great

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Speaker 2: can or bottle.

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Speaker 1: And our second hop fensive coordinator is Matt, who writes

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Speaker 1: in with purple rain, that's r ei g n ip.

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Speaker 2: A, that's hurtful ty.

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Speaker 1: He said, it's an easy drinking ipa designed to get

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Speaker 1: you through the whole football game. Purple Rain has a

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Speaker 1: small menagerie how about that word of hot like that

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Speaker 1: provide mango, pine, grapefruit, all the aromatics that you need.

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Speaker 1: A firm hot bitterness that doesn't linger in a malt body.

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Speaker 1: That provides mouth feel hmmm, and a touch of baked

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Speaker 1: bread in the flavor that we're all.

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Speaker 2: About mouthfeel here on the solid verbo.

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Speaker 1: That is a description if I've ever heard one. Thank

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Speaker 1: you to Robin Matt for writing.

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Speaker 2: That's the Red Hook Brewery, right? That is Red Hook? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: isn't that? I mean that's is that in Seattle? There's

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Speaker 2: a Red Hook in Brooklyn, Okay. Is very confusing to me.

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Speaker 2: The I think I'm gonna go flannel Friday. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: own flannel. I treasure flannel. I think you can get

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Speaker 2: the harpoon wherever you want. I like a good it's

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Speaker 2: an amber ale. Right, that's right. That's that's best for

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Speaker 2: my tom Tom. So that's where I'm going, all right.

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Speaker 1: I expect to see pictures of it. I will get

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Speaker 1: some as well.

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Speaker 2: I will post. All right.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you to everyone out there again. Stay safe

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Speaker 1: this weekend, whether you're gosh in the Florida Panhandle or

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Speaker 1: the southeaster, just traveling to a game. Somewhere else in

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Speaker 1: the country.

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Speaker 2: Stay safe.

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Speaker 1: We want to have you back here on Sunday to

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Speaker 1: talk through all of this weekend's action from Smiling Don

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Speaker 1: Sunday for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Ruvenstein,

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Speaker 1: for myself, Ty Hildebrand, thanks again for tuning into the show.

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Speaker 1: We'll catch you on a few days in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: Stay softy,