1 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Welcome Inside with the Insiders alongside Judy Battista, Ian Rappaport 2 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: and Mike Garofolo, who is fighting the right camera angle 3 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: muting the Marching Man that's behind him. 4 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: How are we doing there, Mike, get warm. 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 3: It's a nice stadium. We're warm now. The temperature is good. 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 3: Record Marching Band is the fifth member of the show tonight. 7 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 4: I always like this every week. It's great. 8 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 3: Well, you like it, then let's go let's go hang 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 3: with it. What do you think? 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go take us there, Mike, take us there. 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna end up having to pay royalties for whatever 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: this song is. Mike, don't get too close. Uh all right, 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: So Jets Bills tonight Monday Night football for first place 14 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: in the AFC East after a very eventful week in 15 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: New York. We'll get to that game, but let's start 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: out as we do every Monday on this podcast and 17 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: YouTube show with the biggest takeaways. 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: Sunday that was in the NFL. 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: Judy, I saw you hovering in the background of Jerry Jones. 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 1: I'm taking a wild guess your takeaway might start down 21 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: there in VB. 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 5: Yes, my takeaway, Yeah, you had some musical companyment duty. 23 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 6: I'm laughing. I'm not laughing at the Cowboys, although that 24 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 6: was a big problem. Jerry Jones thought the Lions were 25 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 6: having just a little too much fun at the Cowboys expense. 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 4: And he was right, not wrong. 27 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 6: My takeaway is that the Cowboys cannot take a punch. 28 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 6: They were non competitive yesterday against the Lions, and I 29 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 6: think we saw the gap, and it is a big 30 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 6: gap between what the Cowboys are right now and what 31 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 6: the elite of the NFC is. And it is not 32 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 6: all that they had a lot of defensive injuries. The 33 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 6: offense was largely intact and was basically non functional for 34 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 6: most of the day. They had two drives early one 35 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 6: they had to settle for a field goal. The other 36 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 6: Dak prows interception into the end zone, which is like 37 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 6: his third red zone turnover in two games, terrible stat 38 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 6: and they just went into a shell. They were non competitive. 39 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 6: It was jarring, and I talked to Jerry Jones. I 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 6: was in that cluster around Jerry Jones. Let's hear from 41 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 6: Jerry and then we'll come back and talk about what 42 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 6: Jerry said. 43 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: Generally speaking, I think my message is is, I know 44 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: you don't need to hear me say. 45 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 5: This, but I'm well aware that we're in the proverbial 46 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 5: right now. 47 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: Jerry, what would it take you to evaluate making a 48 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: head coaching change in season? 49 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: Oh, I haven't considered that. I'm not considering that. So 50 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: you're clear. I'm not considering that, but you've done it. 51 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: I will be a hypothetical in that matter. Do you 52 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: think I'm an idiot? 53 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: Will you? 54 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: Okay? 55 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not going hypothetical with you about one. I'd 56 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: considering coaching change, and a lot of the timing we're 57 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: sitting here, I'm not at all. 58 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 6: Okay. Then, he also earlier in those comments, he was 59 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 6: about as shaken after a game as I've ever seen Jerry. 60 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 6: We've alved on those scrums around Jerry after games. He 61 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 6: was shocked. I think that his team looked like that. 62 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 6: It was not just a normal loss. It was also 63 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 6: happened to be his birthday. It was just a very 64 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 6: bad day all around for the Dallas Cowboys. 65 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 4: Sorry, as we were discussing Cowboys, we just posted a trade. Systince. 66 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 4: We're doing the show in real time. Let's interrupt Cowboys 67 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 4: talk to talk about this trade. So, according to all 68 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 4: of us, Roy Robertson Harris, who has been a standout 69 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 4: defensive tackle for the Jacksonville Jaguars. He has been traded 70 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 4: to Seattle for a two twenty six late round pick, 71 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 4: a sixth rounder, we believe, so he is now being traded. 72 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 4: Seattle loads up on the defensive line and Roy Robertson 73 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: Harris goes sort of from the Jaguars to Seattle, but 74 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 4: really from London to Seattle, which we have done the research. 75 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 4: It is a ten hour flight from London to Seattle, 76 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: which is a very long flight and just seems seems 77 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 4: like a lot. I hope he has one of those 78 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 4: late flat beds. But that's where we are reporting mid show. 79 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 4: So anyway, let's get back to the we don't do 80 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 4: we want to talk about that. You want to get 81 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 4: back to the Cowboys. Great, the Cowboys are on a 82 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 4: bye and they get reinforcements back, right, I mean they 83 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 4: get they get Micah Parsons back, they get Kendrick's back. 84 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: They eventually will get to Marcus Lawrence back. Everybody wants changes, 85 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 4: it seems. With all due respect to the Jets, which 86 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 4: Mike is seeing up close to personal today, it seems 87 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: like forever. But the Jets. It's way too early for changes, 88 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 4: and I think everybody wants like fire, m zammer, firemc McCarthy. 89 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 4: This is a team that should be in the playoffs. 90 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 4: And I do think it kind of behooves everyone to 91 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 4: take a deep breath and say, this was a terrible game. 92 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 4: It was so bad. Everything about it was bad. They 93 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 4: played bad, The effort was bad, they couldn't tackle, they 94 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 4: got knocked back on defense, The offense look bad, The 95 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 4: connection with Dak and CD is bad, the run game 96 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: was bad. It's all bad. But it is one game, 97 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 4: and whether or not the Cowboys are going to be okay, 98 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 4: it does make sense to just breath deep and let 99 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 4: everyone come back to them before we all make a 100 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 4: decision on what the Cowboys eventually are going to be 101 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 4: as a team. 102 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 6: It also helps Let's say say it that the nobody 103 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 6: in the NFC East is going to run away, but 104 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 6: that that seems pretty clear. So if they can just 105 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 6: sort of hold it together and not get blown out 106 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 6: week after week, you know they're certainly going to be 107 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 6: in the mix for a playoff spot. 108 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 3: There on. 109 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 4: It is on Mike, Congrats. 110 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 3: Yes, the band has stopped playing. The band is off 111 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: the field. 112 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 5: Uh I just when I can't figure out about the 113 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 5: Cowboys in this in this age of parody, Why is 114 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 5: every game a blowout? 115 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 3: Not every game? 116 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 5: I mean, the Pittsburgh game was close, but they run 117 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 5: the Browns in week one, they get run by the 118 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 5: Saints in week two. Week three I think was the Ravens, 119 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 5: which was not as close to the final score indicated 120 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 5: the Giants. They handle them pretty well and in this 121 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 5: game like it just I don't understand. 122 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a good thing. I don't 123 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 3: know if that's a bad thing. 124 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 5: Because their wins have been as impressive as their losses 125 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 5: have been unimpressive. 126 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 127 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 5: I mean, I if i'm you know, would you prefer 128 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 5: to lose all these games in heartbreaking fashion and say 129 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 5: well we could be six and oh or we could 130 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 5: or would you rather say well, we've got work to do. 131 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's kind of where the Cowboys are 132 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 5: right now. I would want to start being more competitive 133 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 5: if I possibly could, when when we're losing these games. 134 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: I would say this for the Cowboys too. You know 135 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: Jerry Joe owns, you know the way that he kind 136 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: of bit back at some of the questions he was getting, 137 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: I think is reflective of the way that he's been 138 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: looking at this season in terms of, yes, he thinks 139 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: he's got a really good team, but also, you know, 140 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: there's an evolution here. They've been starting what four rookies 141 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: in the early portion of the season. Michaeh Parsons is 142 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: your best defensive player has been out, DeMarcus Lawrence is out. 143 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: You're playing with guys on defense in particular, you didn't 144 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: really think you were going to have. And yet I 145 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: mean Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb, who remember CD didn't 146 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: practice for the entire offseason, for all of training camp 147 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: before he got his deal, and then Dak ends up 148 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: getting paid like three hours before kickoff in Week one. 149 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: In other words, this was like a this is a 150 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: process that they're going through here, and that's not to 151 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: make any excuses. I mean, that is as embarrassing of 152 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: a lot. 153 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 4: None does affectings. We saw what I mean Cincinnati is 154 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 4: Cincinnati not feeling the exact same thing. Sorry, but you 155 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like this is all like like 156 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 4: these are not robots when like money as effected, like 157 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 4: you can actually see it on the field, right, Sorry, interest. 158 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: But they're you know, they're not one and five, they're 159 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: three and three. Right now, they are going to get 160 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: healthy over the buy and we'll see. You know, I 161 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: don't get the sense, you know, I get the sense 162 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: that this was really how Jerry was feeling in terms 163 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: of you know, he you know, had no thoughts about 164 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: we need to make major wholesale changes here. They need 165 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: to get better, they need to play better, there's no 166 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: question about it. But let's see now when they get 167 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: some of these guys back. MICUs should be back after 168 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: the buy. Let's see what type of impact that's able 169 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: to make. And perhaps, you know, going back to twenty eighteen, 170 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: which Dak Prescott invoked today, maybe you know, there's an 171 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: opportunity to add something in the trade market that micro 172 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: shake some things up as well and help that team 173 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: as we move forward. My biggest takeaway out of Sunday 174 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: was the team on the other side of this, which 175 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: was the Detroit Lions. They did have a lot of 176 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:56,119 Speaker 1: fun on the field. Ben Johnson seemed to be exacting 177 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: a variety of revenges, namely at the officials who took 178 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: away the touchdown last year by running not one, not two. 179 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: But I believe three different tackle eligible plays, including one 180 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: where it's a hook and ladder to three hundred and 181 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: twenty pounds. Pina sewol It got nullified, but it's the 182 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: best play I've ever seen nullified in the NFL. Right now, 183 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: it's not just the standings. It's not just the fact that, 184 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: you know, the Vikings are one of the two unbeaten 185 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: teams remained in the NFL. If you go and sort 186 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: the NFL standings by point differential, the top four teams 187 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: in the entire NFL MIC are the four teams in 188 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: the NFC North. It's the Vikings, the Lions, the Packers, 189 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: the Bears. It's the four teams that just through the 190 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: first six weeks of the season here have had the 191 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: strongest from start to finish, as reflected by the point 192 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: totals here. And I think that that's a real thing 193 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: we thought all along, this is gonna be a really 194 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: strong division top to bottom. Obviously, the Bears scuffled a 195 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: little bit out of the gate. You watched them these 196 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: last two weeks, Mike, this is you know, a pretty 197 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: good Bears team that's getting. 198 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: Better as well. 199 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: Got my credential. 200 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 5: See what happened was I grabbed my Giants credential by 201 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 5: accident and didn't realize it until I got out of 202 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 5: the car. 203 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 4: Here because I know what happens, Jess runs over and 204 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 4: hands it to you. What's going on? 205 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: Uh No, Jet's Pranks takes care of it. 206 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 5: They printed I'm not going to show the other side, 207 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 5: and you can take a screenshot and pretend to be me. 208 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 3: But Jet's pr I hooked it up. 209 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 5: What are we talking about, cowboys now? And I mean 210 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 5: the the NFC North is so good that you look 211 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 5: at the at the Bears that I mean, you know, 212 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 5: I don't know what the type. 213 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: Set up to a bad slapstick joke, just go on, all. 214 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 5: Right, but you got the Bears feeling good about that 215 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 5: that win in London. Now they have the bye week, 216 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 5: uh and and coming back and it's like you you 217 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 5: better be able to keep pace with the rest of 218 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 5: these teams. And I don't think that they have played 219 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken. They have not played a divisional game 220 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 5: just yet. Could be wrong about that going through, but 221 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 5: either way, they have either five or six lefts, so 222 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 5: they have to run the gauntlet. So as impressive as 223 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 5: it was for them and for Caleb, Williams. You look 224 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 5: up and you look at all these teams that are 225 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 5: around you right now, which is not to say that 226 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 5: you know, these other teams should be worried about the 227 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 5: Bears as well, but like, that's the team that maybe 228 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 5: we have a little bit more question marks regarding the 229 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 5: roster of the talent, the ability for a rookie quarterback 230 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 5: to lead them through that gauntlet of a division. So 231 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 5: that'll be the most intriguing storyline for me in the 232 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 5: NFC world. 233 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 4: Well, you talk about Kleb Williams, I mean, that's like 234 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 4: to me, you know, the NFL season is so long. 235 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 4: It is so long, not just because it's we're all 236 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 4: feeling unbelievably tired right now and it's Week six and 237 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 4: we have so many, so many leaks to go, but 238 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 4: I'm just talking about drawing conclusions. It's forever. Like everyone 239 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 4: knew on that Monday Night game. Was that Week three 240 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 4: when Jayden Daniels destroyed the Bengals, I mean the whole team, 241 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 4: But was that Week three or anyway, everyone knew that 242 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 4: Jadenon Daniels was the best rookie quarterback that we've ever seen. 243 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 4: And then you watch Caleb Williams the last three weeks, 244 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 4: and it's sort of like, you know what, he's pretty 245 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 4: good and he started and like it's all the things 246 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 4: that the first part of the season that everyone was like, 247 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 4: can't throw on time. This is not college. You know, 248 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 4: He's not gonna just run around and make like we're 249 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 4: seeing him kind of blend some styles and really like 250 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 4: some of these plays are really good. I mean that, 251 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 4: you know, it wasn't the greatest game ever, the Jaguars 252 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 4: Bears game, but I found myself like really enjoying watching him, 253 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: and I would imagine if you were a Bears fan, 254 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 4: this is the kind of guy that you're going to 255 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 4: enjoy watching for a very long time. Cale Williams is 256 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 4: going to be good. And I think Glendorg just hit 257 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 4: a home run. 258 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 3: So let's go shut up. 259 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 5: Blake's Blake where our researchers working really hard in the chat, 260 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 5: we keep ignoring him. Six of the bears final eight 261 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 5: games are divisional games, their first divisional game Week eleven 262 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 5: against the Packers and going back the Cowboys. Losses of 263 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 5: twenty five points and more of the last two seasons 264 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 5: three the previous previous five seasons, only two. 265 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 6: Can we just make one point, just to offer some context. 266 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 6: Caleb has been certainly on the upswing, and yesterday he 267 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 6: looked most like USC version of Caleb. They played in 268 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 6: a row the three worst defenses in the NFL. So 269 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 6: the real gauntlet comes, I think it. I'm sorry and 270 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 6: I love I want him to be a success, trust me, 271 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 6: because I want more trips to Chicago. I love Chicago anyway. 272 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 6: So the real test is going to be, is it? 273 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 6: I think in November where they play the three NFC 274 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 6: North rivals in a row, that's going to be a 275 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 6: test for where he really is in his progression. But listen, 276 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 6: he's progressing and that's what you want to see, no 277 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 6: matter who the opponent is. 278 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 2: Mike real Quick for we got to take a break. 279 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: Your biggest takeaway from Sunday Week six. 280 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 5: Well, I mentioned I use my my credential for the 281 00:13:59,120 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 5: Giants game. 282 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: I was here last night. I leave in that game. 283 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 5: Bob Papa, who does the play by play for the Giants, 284 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 5: uh the radio. I was listening to the post game 285 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 5: show on the way home and Bob Bob was given 286 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 5: it to him. Like Bob was very as disappointed as 287 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 5: the entire fan base and it's his job as as 288 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 5: the post game show, one of the one of the 289 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 5: folks on that on that program, uh, to. 290 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: Reflect the feeling of the fan base. 291 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 5: So I sort of you know, listening to that and 292 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 5: seeing some other things social media and otherwise, and. 293 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: Uh, you know, listening to the the. 294 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 5: The posset of the fan I thought they were gonna 295 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 5: just be after everybody. 296 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: This fan base right now is not feeling the quarterback. 297 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 5: So Daniel Jones has to do something to get this 298 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 5: uh fan base back on his side. On the other 299 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 5: side of this game, I thought the Bengals were one 300 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 5: of the better one to four teams you're ever gonna 301 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 5: see in the NFL. So style points, I don't think 302 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 5: they care the fact they won that game. Saw Zach 303 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 5: Taylor on the way out of the locker room, He's 304 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 5: like I needed that. 305 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: He was red eyed. 306 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 4: Uh. 307 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 5: They had worked really hard to just get back on 308 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 5: the winning side. It is a team with some winnable 309 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 5: games coming up. You don't want to see them coming 310 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 5: into your building on the road as they obviously they'll 311 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 5: be on the road in the playoffs because they have 312 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 5: done that before. So just got to string some wins 313 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 5: together here and start to build that confidence. 314 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break here. 315 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: We got a lot more to talk to you about 316 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: on part one of the Monday Insiders podcast. 317 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: What's up with Sean Watson? 318 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: What do we make of the current Steelers quarterback situation 319 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: after they managed to get another win with Justin Field. 320 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that and a lot more after this. 321 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns continue to struggle in this early portion 322 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: of the season, to say the least on offense so far. 323 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: The defense hasn't really judy been quite as dominant as 324 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: it was as well. When you watch them play that 325 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: game against the Eagles, and Philadelphia seems to almost be 326 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: trying at times to let them into that game. They 327 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: get a kick block that's returned for a touchdown by 328 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: Rodney McCleod. The Browns make a late drive to get 329 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: down the field. Everything I think I said this last week, 330 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: everything looks hard right now. Everything looks like it is 331 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: difficult for the Browns to ash. But we heard from 332 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski again today who reiterated DeShawn Watson's the quarterback. 333 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson gives us the best chance to win a 334 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: couple of division games coming up here, and I think 335 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: it's fair to say, even though we're still relatively early 336 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: in the season at one in five, that's a team 337 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: on the brink right now. 338 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess I wonder I think we all understand 339 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 6: why Kevin Stefanski is saying that they are going to 340 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 6: keep going with Deshaun Watson. I guess I wonder how 341 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 6: long that can be sold in the locker room because 342 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 6: they know better than anybody else that the season is 343 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 6: slipping away and that the offense is non functional, dysfunctional, 344 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 6: whatever the word is. And so I you know, even 345 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 6: if they all think of the Deshaun Watson we all 346 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 6: know from Houston and are sort of like the rest 347 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 6: of us, like, is that ever coming back? Like even 348 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 6: if those guys in this locker room think that they are, 349 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 6: they are looking at the season in front of them 350 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 6: and saying like this season is going down the drain. 351 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 6: I mean, clearly none of the brain trust believes in, 352 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 6: you know, not throwing good money after bad. I mean, 353 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 6: you know, there's the phrase sunk cost here. They're going 354 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 6: to keep going, it seems, until they can't keep going 355 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 6: any longer. I just wonder how long until we sort 356 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 6: of see friction in the locker room because of us. 357 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, that is to me the most important 358 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 4: point because I know we talked about this last week too, 359 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 4: but with different quarterbacks, but like the players know, you 360 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 4: know when I mean, I think it was the Steelers 361 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 4: were actually talking about. But the players know, they know 362 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 4: who the starter is, they know who the guy they 363 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 4: want to follow, they know who has earned it. So 364 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 4: like when coaches make starting decisions, I always feel like 365 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 4: it's a reflection of like, this is something the players 366 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 4: have known, and it's the coach being like this is 367 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 4: the guy they look toward, or whatever it is. And 368 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 4: that's what I wonder about the Cleveland Browns is like, 369 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 4: is it to a point now where the players are like, 370 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 4: we are better on offense, We just need to figure 371 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 4: this one part out and that means no Deshaun. The 372 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 4: problem is money speaks so loudly, and we have never 373 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 4: seen a team commit this much money to any player ever. 374 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 4: It is a historic contract, it is a fully guaranteed deal. 375 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 4: It's exactly why most thirty one owners do anything they 376 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 4: can to avoid fully guaranteed deals at all positions, let 377 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 4: alone this. I shouldn't say thirty one thirty because Kirk 378 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 4: Cousins got one originally, but it's this is why they 379 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 4: don't want to do it. And the fact that Deshaun 380 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 4: Watson has turned into a player who is not running 381 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 4: a functional offense is astounding. I seriously watch these games 382 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 4: and I can't believe it because there was there were 383 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 4: plenty of times when he was an excellent, excellent football 384 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 4: player that is not right now, And you really do wonder, 385 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 4: like Mike, how long the Browns can keep doing this, 386 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 4: and like he is talented, so you figure at some 387 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 4: point it's gonna turn around. I'm just watching it and 388 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 4: I just don't know when. 389 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: Well, they worse than I thought it was gonna be. 390 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 4: No, it's great expect How do we do it? 391 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: Just just go I need to get it. 392 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 3: Do these from the press box? 393 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 5: He was he was like eleven for eleven or eleven 394 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 5: for twelve overall, I think in the second half. 395 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 3: But it still wasn't like we had been talking about. 396 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 5: They're waiting for him to kind of catch fire and 397 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, just looking and he does it quickly, 398 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 5: and it all of a sudden swings up and I 399 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 5: think they probably thought it was starting to happen in 400 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 5: the second half, and that's the best thing is just 401 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 5: sit there and hope and expect and wait for that 402 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 5: to happen and for him to start carrying a team. 403 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 5: It's just not I mean, the longer this goes, the 404 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 5: likelihood of that happening is lower and lower. Like he 405 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 5: can go eleven for eleven, but if it's eleven for eleven, uh, 406 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 5: with under ten yards per completion or whatever, it. 407 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: Is just shorter, PA, that's not going to work. 408 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 5: It needs to be the way that we remember him 409 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 5: early in his career with the Texans downfield passes, hitting 410 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 5: a couple in a row, three touchdowns and a half. 411 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: Something like that, where he starts to take over the game. 412 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 3: We're just not seeing it. I don't know if we're 413 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: ever going to see it. 414 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: And I don't know that Nick Chubb coming back is 415 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: going to if it's certainly not going to solve everything 416 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: for that offense, I don't even know initially, you know 417 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: the degree to which it helps. You know, he'll get 418 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: if he's playing this week, which it sounds like it's 419 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: headed that way, he'll get a very warm welcome. The 420 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: fans will be fired up for it, which hopefully will 421 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: mitigate some of the fan reaction to other things, other 422 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: people who might be introduced with the starting lineup. But 423 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: in terms of Nick Chubb coming back from that injury, 424 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: you know, thinking he's going to go out there and 425 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: carry twenty five times and be the focal point of 426 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: the offense might be a little bit of a stretch 427 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: out of the gate here. You know, there's just there's 428 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: wild stats and I know that, you know, I've read 429 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of them today about just how historically inefficient 430 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: Watson and this Brown's offense have been. We know Kevin 431 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: Stefanski's a good coach. We had five different starting quarterbacks 432 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: last season and went to the playoffs. We know that 433 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 1: this is not just a Kevin Sevanski's in over his 434 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: head issue. There's there's a level of disconnect here. I 435 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: don't think it's entirely on Watson. Obviously, they lost one 436 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: of the best, probably the best offensive line coach in 437 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: the NFL in the offseason that which is a even 438 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: up front. But they had the tackles back yesterday, and 439 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: it's those guys who are false starting when you're in 440 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: the red zone. You know, they have their receivers right now, 441 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be as hard as it seems like it 442 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: is right now for the Cleveland Browns. And again I 443 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: believe they got the Bengals next Sunday at home. That 444 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: is going to be one of those make or break 445 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: type of games. And you just wonder the extent to 446 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: which there could be some level of changes for the 447 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: Browns going into that game. Because Kevin Stefanski already has 448 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: ruled out the biggest types of changes, which would start 449 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: with making a change at the quarterback position. We also 450 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: will continue to talk about the Steelers quarterback situation, Mike, 451 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: because Justin Fields has never actually been named the starter. 452 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: He has started the first six games for Pittsburgh. They 453 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: have won four of those games. I don't know that 454 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: you look at the way that he played yesterday against 455 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: the Raiders team that you know was obviously turning the 456 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: football over and giving them all these opportunities, and say, boy, 457 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: there's just no there's no doubt whatsoever. Everything I've heard 458 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: is Russell Wilson is carving up the defense in practice 459 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: every day. 460 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: He looks good. 461 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: Teammates like being around him so far in Pittsburgh. Here 462 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: and Mike Tomlin, this is the one guy. 463 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: He's ever said he's QB one. He's never said it 464 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 2: about justin fields. I don't know that that means we're. 465 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: Going to get a quarterback change this week, but certainly 466 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: that is very much like Judy behind Jerry Jones yesterday, 467 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: hovering in the background every week for this. 468 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 5: Team, Jude Judy Russell Wilson scout team All Pro this year, 469 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 5: that we're that we're going with. 470 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: He should He's got he should you nothing else. As 471 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 3: a former Super Bowl winning quarterback, he should do that. 472 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 3: So that's good. Good, you're holding up your end of 473 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 3: the market. Wow, the stats are gone. We did have 474 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 3: him up there. 475 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 5: It said justin fields zero interception here boom, zero interceptions. 476 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 5: Keep that number where it is right there, and you're 477 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 5: going to be fine justin fields because I saw there 478 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 5: was a one rush play where was a third and long. 479 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 3: I don't know it was a design run. 480 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 5: And you saw his ability to be a weapon with 481 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 5: his legs, which I think they're using certainly to their 482 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 5: advantage and probably going to use a little bit more 483 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 5: as the weather starts to turn a little bit. So 484 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 5: I like that that part because Russell Wilson doesn't have 485 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 5: that weapon in his repertoire. I still much as Mike 486 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 5: Tomlin has been since Russell Wilson arrived, seemingly wanting Wilson 487 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 5: to win the job, keep the job, hold the job. 488 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 5: I know that their support for what Justin Field is 489 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 5: doing and the fact that he is going to continue 490 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 5: to improve in that building. Just keep that number to 491 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 5: a zero that we talked about Justin You'll be Okay. 492 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 6: That's going to be harder because they play the Jets 493 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 6: and Giants in successive weeks, so those are two good 494 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 6: defenses they're going to face. And he was less accurate 495 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 6: and more erratic yesterday than he has been in the 496 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 6: previous games. So that's so. Yes, they keep winning. And 497 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 6: he did make plays with his legs, but he also 498 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 6: was not quite as efficient running the offense as he 499 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 6: maybe had been. And now he's going to come up 500 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 6: against you know, I mean, the Jets and Giants are 501 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 6: what they are, but what they are is they have 502 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 6: good defenses. So we'll see. 503 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would sort of uh oh, that's good news 504 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 4: for the forty nine ers open the practice window on 505 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 4: Ricky Pearsall, who of course was unfortunately shot in the 506 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 4: early part of the season. Now they get their first 507 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 4: round or back, which we'll see if it's this week. 508 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 3: But does sound to get here stay with us. 509 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 4: I'm not I'm watching No, I'm not watching it. I'm 510 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 4: reading the I know what it means here, look at 511 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 4: look anyway, I would quibble a little bit with what 512 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 4: you guys I think it was. Tom would just said it, 513 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: uh or Mike one of you, one of your idiots. 514 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 4: I don't think Mike tom Win wants I don't think 515 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 4: Mike tom Win wants Russell Wilson to win the job. 516 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 4: I think he would like to see. And that's a difference, 517 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 4: right Like, I think there's been a curiosity. It's not 518 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 4: like an infatuation. But he definitely has been interested in 519 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 4: Russell Wilson for a while. He gets him on the 520 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 4: team this year, he needs him the starter essentially twice, 521 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 4: and then he hasn't played yet. I think some part 522 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 4: of him is like, can we just see? And what 523 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 4: I'm really wondering is you're right. Fields was definitely made 524 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 4: some plays, but was you know, definitely more radic this week. 525 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: Missed a couple probably some more like wide open throws 526 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 4: than you would ever see. Not that Russell Wilson has 527 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 4: missed your accuracy, but you know, certainly missed a couple 528 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 4: of throws who would normally make I just wonder what 529 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 4: it's gonna take. Like they got two games than the 530 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 4: bye I think that's right. If they win too, and 531 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 4: if fields does exactly the same, which is like throw 532 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 4: for one hundred and eighty to two hundred yards, have 533 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 4: a couple of big runs, have no interceptions or limited mistakes. 534 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 4: At what point does Tomlin go Okay, he's my starter, 535 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 4: and I just if he hasn't done it now, I 536 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 4: just don't know when, And maybe this is a gag 537 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 4: he sort of keeps up forever. But it has been 538 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 4: a really strange quarterback battle or whatever you'd want to 539 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 4: call it. 540 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 6: Judy, Well, I think the bye week is the obvious time, 541 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 6: if there's ever going to be an obvious time to change. 542 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 6: Depending on how those two games go, I can't see 543 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 6: them making a change though while they keep winning, right, 544 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 6: that's just hard to like, would you do that? I 545 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 6: don't know, would you break up whatever you've got. 546 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: To go over that? 547 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 4: Like I can't even think. 548 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 6: Of any I don't know. But again, these are two 549 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 6: difficult defenses they're facing. And then again Blake working overtime here, 550 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 6: I'm reading the notes after their bye week. Each of 551 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 6: the Steelers' final nine games or either divisional games or 552 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 6: against teams that are currently five hundred or better. So 553 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 6: obviously the schedule really ramps up after the bye weekend. 554 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 6: So you know, I mean, the onus is going to 555 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 6: be on Justin Fields to at least hold steady and 556 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 6: not commit the big mistake, which he hasn't. He hasn't, 557 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 6: but he also hasn't made the big plays, especially yesterday, 558 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 6: didn't make you know, didn't make the plays that you 559 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 6: would like to see, the sort of consistent plays that 560 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 6: you'd like to see. Well see, I don't know, I 561 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 6: don't know. 562 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: So Steelers won, I'd say, say a little bit ugly yesterday. 563 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: The Eagles definitely won ugly against de Sean Watson and 564 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: the Browns. They also had a incidant late in the 565 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: game that was televised and seen by a number of people, 566 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: in which Nick Sirianni had a few choice words for 567 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: fans behind the Eagles bench who had been apparently, according 568 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: to Sirianni, saying things about his job throughout the course 569 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: of the game. Here, Mike, you covered that team closely obviously. 570 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: You know, Sirianni today said that he was sorry and 571 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: disappointed that the energy he was trying to bring was 572 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: directed in a certain direction at the end of that game. 573 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: I also this, that's Nick Sirianni, Like you get the 574 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: fiery types of personality. He's always had that piece to him. 575 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: A little unusual to see him going after his own 576 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: fans at the end of the game there, but to 577 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: the extent that that's just the way that his personality 578 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: is sometimes, Like I can't say that I'm shocked about 579 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: and he's the coach has been to the playoffs three times. 580 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: If people want him fired after every loss. 581 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, but he knows that that's a by walking it back, 582 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 5: by apologizing, which I don't think he ever did for 583 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 5: the Kansas City thing or the Indianapolis thing. He realizes, 584 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 5: you don't pick that fight with that fan base, like 585 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 5: you're just not going to win that one, and that's 586 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 5: only going to accelerate their feelings for you when and 587 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 5: if you lose. The fan base seems to use booing 588 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 5: as a motivational tool, right, and they did that well. 589 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 5: I mean to bring up it as something not to 590 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 5: bring up the team. That's not playing today while your 591 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 5: team is playing. But the Phillies were booing and it 592 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 5: was like the Mets fans and the media members were like, 593 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 5: they were booing these guys five minutes ago, and the 594 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 5: fan base was like yeah, and we spurred them to 595 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 5: hit a bunch of homer It was one game that 596 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 5: they actually won in the series. That's kind of the 597 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 5: mentality down there. It's nothing that they feel like is personal. 598 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 5: It's more along the lines of the performance is not 599 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 5: what it needs to be what we expected to do. 600 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: To cut you off, Mike real quick before we take 601 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: a break, I want to come back to you just 602 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: on this because again, you see more Eagles games than 603 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: anybody in your mind. 604 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 2: I mean, a G. 605 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: Brown comes back yesterday and makes a couple of big 606 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: plays that obviously was a missing piece in the offense. 607 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: How far, if it all, are the Eagles from being 608 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: that perennial playoff team that they've been in past years. 609 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 5: Well, they're going to make the playoffs. I mean, I 610 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 5: think that's that's fudding. They were in the super Bowl 611 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 5: two years ago. So when you get there and you 612 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 5: don't finish it off, and now you are, you know, 613 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 5: going this way as we've seen them do I saw 614 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 5: them do it in mid mid season last year that 615 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 5: that's not going to be acceptable down there. 616 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 3: And and look, we can talk about the fan base. 617 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 5: All we want, don't put it past the owner to 618 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 5: say that that's not acceptable. And especially because Nick sirianni 619 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 5: Uh basically did a makeover of both coordinator positions offensive 620 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 5: and defensive, got the guy that he and Howie Rosmen 621 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 5: and the organization wanted in Vic Fangio. Finally, so it's like, well, 622 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 5: why are we still where we were? If we are 623 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 5: let's say, a wild card team on the road in 624 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 5: the playoffs losing the first game, he has higher expectations, 625 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 5: just like that. 626 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: Fan base the Jets, by the way, elevating the Green 627 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: Goblin mic. You're gonna have Jalen Mills out there. 628 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 5: Guy speaking of Eagles, former Eagles, I think we finally 629 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 5: have the music STU, what do they call that at 630 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 5: the beginning of a Broadway play when they play all 631 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 5: the songs. 632 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 3: That you're gonna hear throughout. 633 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: The or whatever. 634 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, except this is the This would be like if 635 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: they stopped right when the play is ending and every 636 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: buddies going home. 637 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: But so we're not done. This is the intermission. 638 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: There is a second act to the Insiders every Monday. 639 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: So coming up in Part two of The Insiders, the 640 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: latest on Aiden Hutchinson's likely season ending injury. It will 641 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,719 Speaker 1: break down some debuts for a couple more rookie quarterbacks, 642 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: and also preview a battle for yes, really first place 643 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: in the AFC East with the Phills and Justin Nis.