1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Football is about the Jimmy's and Joe's and x'es and 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: o's check New York votot. Thank you, Bruce. It's time 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: to get out the chockboard and diagram some plays. Here's 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: what it all starts right here. That's why day money Christmas. 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: This is Inside Football with former Colts and NFL coach 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: Rick Venturie. Welcome everybody a special NFL Draft installment right 7 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: here and right now of Inside Football with Rick Van Turrey. 8 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm Matt Taylor. Welcome back on the Colts Audio Network. 9 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: We're inside the Indiana Union Construction Industry radio studio and 10 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: Rick Vin Turrey is putting his love of the NFL 11 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: Draft of good use once again as nearly thirty years 12 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: in the coaching profession. And my friend, you love with 13 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: a capital L love the NFL Draft. I know scouting 14 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: is a big part of your back. How many drafts 15 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: is this for you, either covering them or in the 16 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: trenches with the team having to make these tough calls. 17 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: Well, I believe it or not, good man, this is 18 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: my forty first draft that I've either been in the 19 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: war room or have looked at. You know, the majority 20 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: of the players and either covered like we do, or 21 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 2: you know, obviously was in the draft room for twenty 22 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: seven years. So ye, and you're right, I do love it. 23 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: You know, some coaches, you know, they they were okay 24 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 2: with it, they did it when they had to. I 25 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: absolutely loved it. And it really goes back to my 26 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: coaching days. You know, I coached college ball for fourteen years. 27 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: I was never at a blue chip school, so I 28 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: was never always dealing. You know, in some cases we were, 29 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: but not a ton of five stars. So a lot 30 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: of my college career was projecting the you know, three 31 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: star kids, kids that had talent but maybe missing something 32 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: and projecting them to the next level. And then when 33 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: I came in the NFL with the Colts in eighty two, 34 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: we were such a small operation. I mean we had 35 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: like seven coaches and three scouts maximum maximum, and so 36 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: you know, I came to work with a former college 37 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: coach in Frank Cush, and he said, well, hey, we're 38 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: going to maximize our ability. We're all coming out of college, 39 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: so as soon as the season's over, we become talent scouts. 40 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: So you know, I went about my business. I learned 41 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: from the personnel guys. I wasn't just a hard nosed 42 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 2: coach that saw it one way. I learned their way. 43 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 2: I learned their grading systems. And I think I don't 44 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: mean this egotistically. If you talk to people, both personnel 45 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: and coaches who knew me over the years, they'll tell 46 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: you Rick was very, very good, and in the personnel 47 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: aspect of it, really understood it, made good decisions. And 48 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: I always prided myself on the Jeff Arrods and a 49 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 2: lot of the guys that over the years I was 50 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: able to kind of project in those middle and late rounds. 51 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's been a part of me. It really 52 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: truly is a labor of love. I mean that, you know, 53 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: it's every day down in Florida, it's minimal three and 54 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: a half. You canna ask Miss Share it's minimal three 55 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: and a half? 56 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: Yea? How many how many hours are we talking about? 57 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: All told? 58 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: Right, Well, I guess I just I can round it off, 59 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, if just say minimal three hours, 60 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: minimal three hours a day, seven days a week, early 61 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: in the morning, because before Miss Sherry's up, of course 62 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: I'm out looking at the golf of Mexico. So it 63 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: ain't bad duty, you know, and if thanks, thank. 64 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: You for that. I appreciate that. Thanks for rubbing the month. 65 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: If you time that three months, you know you get 66 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: pretty close to three hundred hours. 67 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure, yeah, for sure. All right, shameless plug here 68 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: hyping it up. Rick and I Joe Wright's coming up 69 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: next Thursday, first round of the Draft, will have live 70 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: draft coverage on radio Thursday night, starting at seven o'clock. 71 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: The draft starts at eight, but we're gonna air on 72 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: ninety three to five and one oh seven five the Fan, 73 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: our flagship radio station in Indianapolis, live draft coverage pick 74 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: by pick. Obviously, we'll talk about the Colts what they 75 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: do at the top of the draft, but Rick's gonna 76 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: break it down one to thirty one on that first night. 77 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: That's because there's only thirty one picks in the first 78 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: round this year because of the Dolphins fiasco. But every 79 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: pick Thursday night, Rick will break it down and we'll 80 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: certainly be talking about what the Colts do and might 81 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: they get a quarterback. So let's begin there. Rick, the 82 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: last time we talked on this podcast, that was about 83 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: two months ago, right at the infancy of the offseason 84 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: for the Colts. You were of the belief. Then, sort 85 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: of starting your first couple of days of the tape 86 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: evaluation of these quarterbacks, you were of the belief that 87 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: Bryce Young was the best quarterback in this draft class. 88 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: Fast forward a couple months, you've had ample time to 89 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: study more tape. Do you still feel that way about 90 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: Bryce Young being head and shoulders, maybe not head and shoulders, 91 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: but worthy of being taken first overall now by the Panthers. 92 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, the quick answer is yes, I 93 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: would say this as I've you know, really delved into 94 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: it and looked and put these hours, and you know, 95 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: I spent time, you know this, uh, with John Gruden 96 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: down in Tampa. We spent two full days on evaluating quarterbacks. 97 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: And John is just so good at it. I mean 98 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: that's what he was, the whisperer before there was a whisperer. 99 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 2: And so I spent a lot of time on it. So, 100 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: you know, and I do believe, you know, and I 101 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: do believe that, as always, the quarterback position in general 102 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: is inflated, Matt, I really do. I think everybody you 103 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: know the fact that one, two, three, four, I don't 104 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: think that's gonna happen, but could happen is just mind 105 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: boggling because you know, and I won't be upset with 106 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: whatever the Colds do. And I don't mean that as 107 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,559 Speaker 2: a company guy. It's just it's good news. Bad news 108 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 2: is every single guy that you're talking about that top 109 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: four or five, because I like to put Hooker there 110 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: in the fringe in the five. But every single guy 111 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: has a reason or reasons or traits that you want 112 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: and you're going to draft. But every single guy you 113 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: know has deficits and you know they could be they 114 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 2: could be fatal. So it's gonna come down in the end, 115 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: and it always does. As John Gruden always says, it 116 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: always comes down to who you really fall in love with. 117 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: You have to fall in love with somebody in order. 118 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: I always used to call it, and it goes back 119 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: to my college days. Anybody that word, I always call 120 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: it the electricity test. In other words, when you finished 121 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: your evaluation and this I missed because I don't I'm 122 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 2: not able to do the personal interviews. Like certainly the 123 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: cults have done their due diligence, but it's I used 124 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: to call it the electricity test, and by that I 125 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: just simply mean at the end of it all, does 126 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: he turn on the light switch to you or doesn't he? 127 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: And so, like I said, I you know, they could 128 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: go a lot of different ways in terms of the 129 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: actual ranking and the actual answering of the question. I 130 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: still would put Young number one. You know, I think 131 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: in the beginning I advocated trade it up all the 132 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: way to one to get to him. But as you 133 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: know in retrospect on that one, for the price that 134 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: you would have had to pay, you know, I'm not 135 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: sure that I could justify that. You know, the price 136 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: that Carolina paid, and you know, only time will tell. 137 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: The reason I like him so well is if you 138 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: look at Shane Steichen's four pillars and I had a fifth. 139 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: You know, the first one is accuracy, and I put 140 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: accuracy under fire, not in a workout. Number two Processing 141 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: You've got to be able to process in a millisecond, 142 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: you know, in terms of decision making. Three you know, 143 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: the ability to create, you know, to be able to 144 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: extend plays, make plays where they're not. Now I added 145 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: a fourth, and I thought, the guy that hit it 146 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: pretty well is you had you had Solomon Wilcox. On 147 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: the other day, I listened to your interview with him 148 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: and Solomon and I go way back he played in 149 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: the league when I coached against him. You know, he's 150 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: done a great job with the network, and you know 151 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: with living in Cincinnati. He's a defensive guy like me, 152 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: and I really like him. I talk to him all 153 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: the time and he used the term poise under pressure, 154 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: and I thought, you know, that's something that Mahomes has, 155 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: that Joey Burrows has, that Jalen Hurts has. Those three guys, 156 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 2: they they never even if they're scrambling around, they're never 157 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: out of control. They're never frenetic. I mean, Josh Allen's 158 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: a great talent, but he's frenetic at times. Lawrence is 159 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: frenetic at times, Herbert is frenetic. Those three guys I mentioned, 160 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: no matter how fast the game is, they are never 161 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 2: out of control. And then the fifth the fifth pillar 162 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: is obviously the tremendous commitment and football work ethic to 163 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: be the best. Well, you know, if you just go 164 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: through it with Young you can actually check every box. 165 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 2: Every box is a plus, from the accuracy to the 166 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: leadership to the processing. A great under control. We started 167 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: to refer to him as a little mo watching the 168 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: tape because although he's he'll you know, there's only one homes, 169 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: but he does a lot of things like that. I mean, 170 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: he creates plays, he creates offense separation, but he never 171 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: is out of control. And I know how smart and 172 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: how tough, and I know this personally what his work 173 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: ethic is. But you know, at the same time, I 174 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: can't stretch him out. You know, if there you know, 175 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: if there are people that say, I just won't go 176 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: with a five to ten quarterback, you know what, I 177 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: can understand that because if I've always said there's no 178 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: bad decisions, if you have real evidence and you have 179 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: a great reason for doing it, then I'm okay with it. 180 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: And that is the flaw. Like I said, all five 181 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: guys have traits that you love, and all five guys 182 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: has flaws. Now his is only size. There's no other flaw. 183 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: There's no other flaw in the game, to be honest 184 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: with you, So he would definitely be you know, we 185 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: always used to say player, draw a line. Next category, 186 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: draw a line. He would be the one guy that 187 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: I would then draw the line. 188 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: Going back to again when we last talked to you 189 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: on this podcast on the record again, as you said 190 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: you would have liked to have seen the Colts move 191 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: up to number one in a perfect world. But obviously 192 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: the Panthers gave up a lot. It's pretty salty what 193 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: they had to give up, way too much, so that 194 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: didn't happen. So where are you now on the idea 195 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: of trading up in the draft for the Colts to 196 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: number three, because that's, as we all know, that's all 197 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: the further they can get at this point, just generally speaking, Rake, 198 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: where are you on that concept of going up to 199 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: three to hypothetically get a quarterback? 200 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean to me, here's the thing that you 201 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 2: have to be able to do. Is no matter if 202 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: we say that these five guys or these four guys 203 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: let's take Young out of it, are really close in 204 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: our rating, we can never let it stand that way. 205 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 2: There can never be a middle ground. You have to 206 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: rank those four guys, those three guys, you have to 207 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: rank them two, three, four and five, and you have 208 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 2: to be convicted on it. You have to make hard rankings. 209 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: And in many cases it comes down to the traits 210 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: that you cherish as a quarterback, the guy that you 211 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: fall in love with in terms of working with every day. 212 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: If you think your staff, which I think is a 213 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: I think we didn't get into this, but I think 214 00:11:54,840 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: the outcome of Stichen and Couter and Turner really it 215 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: gives me optimism that no matter what style of quarterback 216 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: we have, we can maxim out. I think those three 217 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: hires are really critical when you look just look at 218 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: the guys they've been with. But my point is they 219 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: have to be ranked, and you have to like two 220 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: better than three, three better than four, four better than five. 221 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter what Todd McShay have to say, 222 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: or mel who I like very much, you know, or 223 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 2: any of those guys. It really doesn't matter. You do 224 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 2: your due diligence personally. It depends again, always depends on 225 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: what we're talking about, but if we're talking about the 226 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: third round pick, you know, even maybe the second round pick. 227 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: If my third guy my third guy to ensure it 228 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: is definitely who I want and I like him better 229 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: than four, then I'm not going to have any trouble 230 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: of moving up. I just think at some point after 231 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: your investment picks, it isn't as it's not as big 232 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: as people may. We treat fifth round draft choices like 233 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: their gods. I mean, we give away Gilmore for a 234 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: fifth who you can get a dollar general. I'll never 235 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 2: understand that. And if we have to get a quarterback now, 236 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 2: next year's two guys, Drake May out of North Carolina 237 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: and Kup Williams out of USC they're far superior to 238 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: this group. But hopefully you don't want to be in 239 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: that top two. I mean, you know, so I think 240 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 2: you got to make hey this year, so I wouldn't. 241 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: I don't believe I hesitate to move up to three. 242 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 2: Remember this in the general managers in two and the 243 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 2: general managers in three, they all come from the New 244 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: England family. I know that family. I've been a part 245 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: of it. Okay, all right, this is the Lion season. 246 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: Don't believe one thing, not one And so you know, 247 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: I think this is where your evaluation is critical in 248 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: these four guys, because it's not easy. It's not easy 249 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: to separate them. And then number two, your read on 250 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: what they're gonna do, the you know ballards, read on 251 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: what you know what the Texans are going to do, 252 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: what Arizona is going to do. But I would feel 253 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: terrible personally if somebody slips into three ahead of me, 254 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: Seattle the Raiders, and I end up with the four. 255 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: Not that I can't live with the four, but I 256 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: want to be proactive. I don't want to settle for 257 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: the four. 258 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: Well, I want to pick up right there because, as 259 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, we're a week away from the draft. Now, 260 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: we're in that lying season. Just a ton of chatter 261 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: right now, just all this banter about the Texans and 262 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: not drafting a quarterback too. Rick, I'd be floored by that, 263 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: I really would. Is there any way there's another player 264 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: that's rated higher than a quarterback that you can justify 265 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: taking at two if you're the Houston Texans. 266 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: I really don't think so, Matt. I honestly don't now 267 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: think what's I think? What does happen? But I don't 268 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: believe one thing Cesario had to say about that. Okay, 269 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: I thought that was a scripted have fun with you, 270 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: play with you press conference. I watched every bit of it. 271 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: I do believe this, though, is that you come out 272 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: of the combine and you can throw out numbers and 273 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: you say, boy, I love this guy, boy this upside here, 274 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: this guy's ceiling. All these terms that we use are 275 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: out there, and it really looks good on March the first. 276 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: When you get to April fifteenth, now and you're pulling 277 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: the trigger on what is going to you're gonna live 278 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: and die with the next ten years. It gets tight 279 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: and you start to overanalyze and you're starting to just 280 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: feel cracks. I can feel cracks in all these quarterbacks 281 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: now as we get really close. So I do believe 282 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: anything can happen. I don't believe personally to answer your question, 283 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: because that's the critical question. I don't believe that there's 284 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: a generational player that would be worth doing that. I 285 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: know everybody likes, loves Will Anderson. I like him a lot. 286 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: I think he's a terrific player. I don't think he's generational. 287 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: I don't think he's Von Miller. I don't think he's 288 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett. I don't think he's the Bosa Boys. I mean, 289 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: I think he's a guy gonna play for you forever. 290 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: You're gonna like him. But he's a finished product. Alabama 291 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: plays real hard. I'm not I don't mean to knock him, 292 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: but I'm not. I just don't see him as a 293 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: generational guy like other people do. I would have seen 294 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: Carter Okay as that guy. I thought Carter on tape 295 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: was the best football player in the draft, and then 296 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: he turned into a fat Mario Andretti on me, you know, 297 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: and he gets the you know, he gets twenty pounds overweight, 298 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: can't finishes, can't finish his workout on pro day, you know, 299 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: he's driving five hundred miles an hour and gets in 300 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: an ax. I mean, so you know, there's no question 301 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 2: about it. Now you've got caution. I call him caution flags, 302 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: caution lights and red lights on him, and I think 303 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: he's gonna drop a little bit. And it's hard for 304 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 2: me to call him generational with those issues because generational 305 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 2: means you also have a JJ watt mentality to me, 306 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 2: and Anderson does have that. But I mean, and and 307 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: so to me, now what's going to happen to Carter. 308 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: He's gonna end up falling and going to a much 309 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: better team and they'll straighten him out and they'll be 310 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: a great player. But and to answer your question, I 311 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: don't really think so, because then when you go below that, 312 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 2: what you really go down to is corners, and that's 313 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: the deepest position in the draft. And so I mean, 314 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 2: you're gonna get you're probably at thirty five, gonna get 315 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: as good a corner as you're gonna get it five. Yeah, 316 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: so you know, so I don't I don't really see that. 317 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: I don't see it. But that's you know, again, this 318 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: is very subjective. I mean, nobody studies analytics more than me. 319 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 2: I mean I was at the first come in eighty two, 320 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: so I know what every metric means. Over forty forty 321 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: one years of this, I can compare Darryl Green to 322 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: Devon Banks in terms of those metrics. But at the 323 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 2: you know, at the same time, it's a lot of 324 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: times it's just what positions are deeper than others. But 325 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: I don't see those generational players there. 326 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: Well, you talk about these top guys, these top quarterbacks, 327 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: all having a crack in their game. For CJ. Stroud, 328 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: what is that? What's his crack in his game? 329 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: The interesting thing with Stroud of all the guys, he 330 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: is the least wow to me. Now, he is the 331 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: most consistent. So it's kind of like, what trait do 332 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: you want? What trait do you really like? You know, 333 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 2: he's obviously his numbers are outstanding in terms of past protection. Uh, 334 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: there's no question that he has I would say accuracy 335 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 2: certainly in a workout. Nobody's like him, you know, I 336 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: think he has that. I think he has some athleticism. 337 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: I don't think he's a great athlete. I think he 338 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: has some. I think he can escape again, very accurate, 339 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 2: has big time numbers, you know, but he's played in 340 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: a rocking chair at Ohio State. I mean he's got 341 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 2: five he's got five number one draft picks that he's 342 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: thrown to that are top not just draft picks, top fifteen. 343 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: He's got a whole offensive line that he's played with. 344 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: So you know, he's thrown out of a rocking chair 345 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: and he's thrown to guys that if you throw a 346 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: fifty to fifty ball on the sidelines a lave in 347 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 2: Giba this year, they're gonna go get it. I mean 348 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: they're gonna get it. You're gonna get a very high, 349 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: you know, passing scheme. You're gonna rip through a lot 350 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: of opponents. You're better than almost everybody you play, you know, 351 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: until you get further that the technical things that bother me, 352 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 2: or if you want to say, the crack is the 353 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: fact is when he is pressured, when he I was 354 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: Gett Blitz, his percentage falls way way off. Well, you're 355 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 2: gonna you're gonna you're gonna get that in the NFL. 356 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: And so you know, I like Stroud a lot, Like 357 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: if when I'm grad and Stroud, it's it's like I 358 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: give him like if you're a gymnast, I give him 359 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: a bunch of sevens and a bunch of eights, but 360 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 2: I never give him a ten. So you know, I 361 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 2: think he'll be very consistent. He obviously has the size. 362 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: You know, his collers, his college numbers are staggering. Uh, 363 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: But I don't see a great athlete, and uh, I 364 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 2: don't think that he's nearly as good under fire, under 365 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: a lot of pressure when he's not in the rocking chair. 366 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: You know, pro workouts, pro days and the combine are 367 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 2: made for Stroud, okay, because he's in rhythm. Everything is 368 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 2: in rhythm, Everything is smooth, everything is controlled and it 369 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: and it's very good. But you know what I think, 370 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: if you got him, you do have a lot of talent. 371 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 2: You got size, you know, you got you do have 372 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 2: a gifted arm. And so you know, that's that's where 373 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: you're at with Strout. 374 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: You know, obviously we've been talking also a lot about 375 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. Seems like every mock draft has Richardson h 376 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: going to the Colts, and I had a guy on Twitter, 377 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,719 Speaker 1: Rick get on me playfully that that had been sour 378 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: on Anthony Richardson. I don't think he was being serious. 379 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 1: And now I'm not sour on Anthony Richardson at all. 380 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: I've just been, you know, talking about when we talk 381 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: about Richardson laying out his draft case, because I've never 382 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 1: seen a player potentially go in the top five that 383 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: has so much potential versus his limited resume in college. 384 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: I've just been objectively pointing out that the perception on 385 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: him has drastically changed in three months without him playing 386 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: a game of football. Right, I'm rooting. I'm rooting like 387 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: hell for Richardson wherever he goes. I mean, if he 388 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: comes to the Colts, that'd be awesome. He's an exciting player. 389 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be great for the game. 390 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: He seems like a great guy. Rick, what is your 391 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: book on Anthony Richardson going into this draft? 392 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's there's there's the high lows with him. 393 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 2: He is the biggest I think boomer bust prospect. He's 394 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: the guy that you know, you roll the dice if 395 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 2: it was a card game, Uh, if it was five 396 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: card draw you're holding to Jack Queen and King of 397 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: Spades and drawn two for the ace in the ten. 398 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 2: But you can bust as well. So you know, I 399 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: think I I think. I had a conversation with Chris 400 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 2: Ballard early in the process and I said to him, 401 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 2: we laughed. I said, Richardson either makes you a genius 402 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 2: or he gets you fired. I mean, there's not much 403 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: in between. 404 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: Obviously, He's I've never seen a player like that before. 405 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: I have never covered a player that could go this 406 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: high with so much mystery surrounding him. That's that's all 407 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: I've been saying. 408 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: No, no, no, and I think no, I'm gonna I'm 409 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 2: gonna reiterate it. Plus because I call him a fetch prospect. Okay, 410 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 2: that is a February March prospect. Okay. I used to 411 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 2: when I coach, people would say, oh man, you got 412 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 2: to look at this guy. He is really rising. And 413 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 2: I would always say, back, did I miss a game 414 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: in February and March? Did did I miss it? You know? 415 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: Did I miss that? Now? There are unicorn As far 416 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 2: as physical tools, now that is speed, size, and he 417 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 2: has a strong arm. Those are the tools. Now. Okay, 418 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 2: does he process well enough, he's only started thirteen games, 419 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: you know, I guess you could give him a little 420 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: mulligan in some cases. In other cases you really worry 421 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: about that, that he's not ready and when he will 422 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 2: be ready. I don't think he's NFL accurate. Maybe you 423 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: can bring it on again. The arm is strong, but 424 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,239 Speaker 2: I don't think it's pinpoint accuracy when I watch it. 425 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: Even in the workout, it isn't like Stroud. Stroud in 426 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 2: the workout is like pinpoint. His is on the hip, 427 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: on the shoulder down the workout. It should always be, 428 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: you know, one foot ahead of the receiver period in 429 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: that in that regard. So I mean, and the thing 430 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: about Richardson is you're saying that we're going to have 431 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: an offense that's going to be a quarterback runner heave, 432 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: because that's what I see him do. He either runs 433 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: and make the wild plays with Richardson are our plays 434 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 2: that he runs and then he heaves it deep and 435 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 2: somebody goes and gets it. They're not the NFL play 436 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: after play, dig outcut things that you have to throw 437 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: into tight windows. So what you're saying is I have 438 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 2: to structure my offense that takes care of his legs 439 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 2: and that improves his passing, and you could, you know, 440 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: if you want to use Jalen Hurts, you can. But 441 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 2: I thought Jalen Hurts had so much more presence, so 442 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: much more experience and winning, you know. And people like 443 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: to make the Cam Newton comparison. I don't buy it 444 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 2: because one thing about Cam Newton. Now you can dislike him, 445 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 2: but he won a junior college championship, he took his 446 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: college team to a national he was and exactly, and 447 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 2: he took his pro team to the Super Bowl. None 448 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 2: of those three teams were any good before he got there. 449 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: I mean, so he is a guy. Cam Newton is 450 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: a guy. Now you can they compare him because he's big, 451 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 2: and he's athletic, and he had unicorn type physical skills. 452 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: But he was a guy that elevated everybody around him. 453 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 2: So again, if you take Richardson, which I mean you're 454 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 2: shooting for the sky, you're rolling the dice, you're drawn 455 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 2: to a royal flush. But at the same time, in 456 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 2: this case, Minshew, he better not just be a bridge 457 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: over the Indianapolis Canal. You know he's going to be 458 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: a bridge over that. You've done it. That bridge the 459 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 2: Howard Franklin that goes that nine miles from Tampa to 460 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: Saint Peter's, he's going to be a lot longer bridge player. 461 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: I think, Oh, so you don't. 462 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: You don't think Anthony Richardson can or should play right away? 463 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: Oh I don't know. Now, you know, you might force it, 464 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: you might force the issue and live with it. And 465 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't believe you consider a guy very 466 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 2: long that you think is a franchise guy, because I 467 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: think what you learn by watching is you learn how 468 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: to be a really good watcher. You know, you have 469 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: to play him and take your lumps if you take him. Now. 470 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 2: I don't mean that that's not necessarily the first month 471 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: of the season, but you've got to get him in there, 472 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: even like Mahomes what was he game ten or something 473 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 2: like that. I mean, I I mean, there's a period 474 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: for everyone. But you're dealing here with a guy that 475 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: I'm not sure and I do I don't know. I'm 476 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: not sure that you know that offense demands much processing. 477 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I think it's a you know, 478 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 2: based on you know, one read and go. It's a 479 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: it's an option type of deal. And so I just 480 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 2: I just worry about when you look back to all 481 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: those things. I mean, you are again, no, again, you're 482 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: hitting a guy that if you hit on him then 483 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 2: you know he has he would have everything. But again 484 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 2: you got to hit on him. 485 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: All right, Dan, what's the biggest upside that Will Levis 486 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: brings to an NFL team? If the Colts sit at 487 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: four and he's available, in that conversation, A, where can 488 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: he get better? And B? How much should he be 489 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: in the mix for the Colts? For you if he's 490 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: there at four? 491 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: Well one A. And I'm gonna get tons of pushback 492 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: on this. And I've even argued with some guys that 493 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: are my peers who I really trust and know I 494 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 2: really like Will Levis. Okay, I am a Will Levice fan, Okay, right, 495 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 2: I think the two most pro ready quarterbacks right now 496 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 2: are Brice Young and Will and Will Levis. Guys that 497 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: have the background can come in, can play. He has 498 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: a tremendous arm. Okay, he can make every throw. There 499 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: are times that he makes Marino type throws. Also because 500 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 2: playing on bad teams, he can throw off platform. He 501 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 2: can throw with guys in his face. There's no question 502 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 2: in my mind, he can do that. You know, he's 503 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 2: a guy that's a pretty good athlete. You know, he's 504 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: every bit as good an athlete as c. J. Stroud. 505 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 2: People don't believe that because every bit is good. And 506 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: occasionally though, he's wound tight and he will play tight 507 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: sometimes and you know, occasionally run into the stack when 508 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 2: you'd like for him to run it a little bit 509 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 2: more outside. But he has like twenty five touchdowns. I mean, 510 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: you know he can do all those things. Now, what 511 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: you will question at times is why did you throw that? 512 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 2: Why did you you know, why did you make that? 513 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: He has a lot of interceptions, There is any question 514 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: about it. But my point on that is, in having 515 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: coached at Northwestern, my quarterbacks had a lot of interceptions too. 516 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: If you play at Northwestern, if you play at Vanderbilt, 517 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: if you play at Kentucky, let me tell you you're 518 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: going to have a lot of interceptions. I mean people 519 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: don't realize this, but you know, Peyton Manning led the 520 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 2: league in interceptions as a rookie because he didn't play 521 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 2: with a great team. You know what's pretty interesting if 522 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: you look at his numbers, you know who has a 523 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: lot of interceptions? Was Andrew Luck. Okay, Andrew Luck had 524 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: a lot of interceptions. Now, the reason I'm making those 525 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: points is a lot of interceptions. And I'll give richardson 526 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: this too. A lot of interceptions have to have context, 527 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: you know, when you're playing on a bad team. And 528 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: I defy you to name another player on the University 529 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: Kentucky team that is in the draft picture this year, 530 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 2: I just find one for me. If you can find one, 531 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: let me know, because I've been through a two hundred 532 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: guys that I haven't. Okay, when you're playing and you 533 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 2: have to carry a team, all right, you're going to 534 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: force some balls. You know. I used to say this 535 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: about Andrew when people would get on him. They'd say, boy, 536 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: does he force it? And I used to say, you know, 537 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 2: Andrew thinks he has to make every play. And you've 538 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: heard me say this, And the bad news is he 539 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: does have to make every play. And when you're like that, 540 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,239 Speaker 2: you get into that mentality and there's there's times in 541 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: an attempt to make the play, you will force the ball. Now, 542 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: this is a kid that went ten and three at 543 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: Kentucky in twenty twenty one. I would argue that that 544 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: is the best accomplishment per the team of any of 545 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: them period. To be honest with you, in the draft, 546 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: a lot of people they talk to him about having 547 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: a weird quality, kind of a weird effect. Now I 548 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: will say. 549 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: This, you're talking about his personality. 550 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, his personality. He's you know, he is 551 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 2: a little you know, he's high strung. You know, he's 552 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: he's a little bound up that way. He's not the 553 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: most likable guy. You know, he doesn't come on with 554 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: sugar and spice are funny. He's not, you know, in 555 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 2: that respect. But you know, the thing about weirdness, what 556 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: the hell you know, Like, you know, they talked about, 557 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: well he puts Mayonnai's in his coffee or eats bananas. 558 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, if he's my quarterback, I just bring 559 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: in a truckload full of Shakidahs and a truckload full 560 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: of hot Helman's and go. I mean, I'm not gonna 561 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 2: worry about that, for God's sakes. What people don't tell 562 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: you is a kid has a master's degree in finance. 563 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: You know, he comes from a really solid pedigree. So 564 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: you know, I think there's a little bit more there. 565 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 2: You know, when people say he's dropping in all this 566 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: I just feel like with the good coaching and the 567 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: right team, that kid's gonna make a really good pro quarterback. 568 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: All right, last one, because you said you have five, 569 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: you kind of have a group of five. Hendon Hooker 570 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: is in there as well. What do you say to 571 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: those that say or believe the Colt should go after 572 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: a Hendon Hooker either at four or you know, draft 573 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: best player available and then trade up in the first 574 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: round to grab Hendon Hooker, who's coming off that ACL 575 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: at Tennessee. 576 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the only thing that that is the limitter 577 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: to me. The knee is would prevent me from taking 578 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 2: him above those four. 579 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: Guys at four. 580 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Now if I if I were let me put 581 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: it this way, if that knee wasn't there, Hendon Hooker 582 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: could be number two. I mean, really and truly, this 583 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: is a guy fifty eight touchdowns in five interceptions in 584 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: two years. I mean that is magnificent. This is a 585 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 2: guy that ted you know, that basically lifted Tennessee to 586 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: new heights. The only problem I have, Look, I have 587 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: a couple of problems. And the first, he's got a 588 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 2: terrific throwing arm, terrific release. I mean that ball comes 589 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: out of there. He's very good athlete. He's kind of 590 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: the same kind of athlete as Stroud and Levis in 591 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 2: that they can make a first down if they have to, 592 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: they're pretty good if they have to scramble. You know, 593 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 2: they're not Bryce Younger. They're certainly not Richardson or Jalen Hurts, 594 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: but they're still pretty good athletes. But he has a 595 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: tremendous release throwing motion. That ball comes out of there. 596 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 2: He's really accurate. Now. The only question that I have, 597 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,239 Speaker 2: and you know, without the personal interview, you know, like 598 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: I said, the Colts have this, but I don't, is 599 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 2: that he plays in that in that hurry up and 600 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: that guy's done a great job at Tennessee of bringing 601 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 2: him back. But that offense is fast tempo, high speed, 602 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 2: chaotic from a defensive standpoint, and I think the system 603 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: itself really helps him in the decision making. I don't 604 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: know that he processes as well as the system provides 605 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: for him. If you follow what I'm saying. I'm not 606 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 2: killing him on it, but it just I don't know. 607 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, because I mean, those numbers are staggering, 608 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 2: but the need bothers me. But I also think that 609 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: Hooker is going to go a little bit higher than 610 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: people think. I mean, I originally, you know, he started 611 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 2: out as a second day I don't think he's going 612 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: to make it to the second day. 613 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've also heard people, I mean this time year, 614 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: you hear everybody just using buzzwords. And one of the 615 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: buzzwords around Hendon Hooker going along with what you just 616 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: talked about, is that his offense that he played in 617 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: at Tennessee is two spread out. Well, I mean, everybody 618 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: plays a spread offense in college football, So I didn't 619 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: know what. I didn't know what the heck that meant. 620 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: I don't know if you had heard that, but I mean, 621 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what that means in relation to Hndon 622 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: Hooker and processing things at Tennessee in their offense. 623 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't really think this spread has anything 624 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 2: to do with it. What I do think is the 625 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: combination of matchups that the coach creates and the speed 626 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: in which they play. I mean, they played, they'd be 627 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: you know Hooker, believe it or not. I mean, Hooker 628 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 2: has beaten Richardson, Young and Levis. I mean he's beaten 629 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 2: all three head to head. Now I'm not saying it 630 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: isn't like this is a fencing match, but he has 631 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: won against all three guys, and I think, I think 632 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: what I the way I look at it is because 633 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 2: of the speed match up in tempo that they play, 634 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 2: they basically create wide open situations for the quarterback. I mean, 635 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 2: I watched the Alabama game and I'm and against you know, 636 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 2: maybe you know, one of the top defensive coaches in history, 637 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 2: and they just they had him worn out. They couldn't 638 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 2: get lined up correctly. I mean it was it was 639 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 2: magnificent from a chess match standpoint. And I think my 640 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 2: only question is how good a disseminator is Hooker? You know, 641 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,479 Speaker 2: I know he's a great kid. Now, there's no doubt 642 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 2: about that. After he got hurt, you know, he stayed on, 643 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 2: he helped coach. No, he was all over that, all right. 644 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: Last couple of things. Last one here on quarterback Rick. 645 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: Is there a quarterback that best fits Shane Steichen or 646 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 1: do we know that yet? Considering this is his first 647 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: year on the job with the Colts. Maybe, better put, 648 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,720 Speaker 1: does it matter which quarterback the Colts get because Shane 649 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: has had success with multiple styles of quarterbacks. 650 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 2: No, I really like this second part of the question 651 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 2: and one of the reasons. And you know this, this 652 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 2: is not you know this is not breaking news. I 653 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,439 Speaker 2: wanted Steichen to get this job, and I didn't even 654 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 2: know him personally. I just wanted the resume. I wanted 655 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 2: the quarterback, whisper, the play caller. I wanted a guy 656 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 2: who had worked in different offenses. Now, if you add 657 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: Jim Bob Cooter to it, now, and you add Turner, 658 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: who has just recently worked with Kyler Murray, Okay, if 659 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 2: you add those three guys experience, you go from you 660 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 2: go from basically Philip Rivers to Matthew Stafford, which Cooter's 661 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 2: worked with. You go from Herbert to Hurtz, and then 662 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 2: you go to Kyler Murray. So if you just take 663 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 2: those five guys with our three offensive coaches that we've 664 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 2: put together, there really shouldn't make any difference in terms 665 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 2: of style. Now, Shane is probably gonna like, he's going 666 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 2: to rank him and he's gonna like guys in order better, 667 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,919 Speaker 2: But I believe it will be based on the total profile, 668 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 2: the total portfolio of the players, rather than stylistically. 669 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: Other needs for the Colts, Rick, what other draft needs 670 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 1: do you have for this team, if you were to 671 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: rank them by position, where would you start, maybe starting 672 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: in round two hypothetically, if the Colts keep that second 673 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: round pick, where where would you want to see them 674 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: go and attack and bolster this roster in the draft 675 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: with the rest of their picks. 676 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 2: Well, let me, I want to make a general statement first, okay, 677 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 2: and then I will go position by position. Okay. First 678 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 2: of all, I think what is holding the Colts back? 679 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 2: Where the why the Colts are not making progress, why 680 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 2: they're not contending, why they've ended up falling on hard times, 681 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 2: is based on not having game changing players, enough game 682 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 2: changing players in their top ten to twelve players on 683 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,240 Speaker 2: the roster. I believe that overall, rosters are the most 684 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 2: overrated thing. You hear people, Oh they got a good roster. Good. 685 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 2: Wait a minute. The salary cap in the NFL, which 686 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 2: is hard, really ends up putting eighty five percent of 687 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 2: the money in fifteen percent of the players. We knew 688 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 2: that was going to happen, and now with the exorbitant 689 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 2: money put on quarterbacks, it's even worse. And so to me, Matt, 690 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 2: what that does is that fixes the rest of the roster. 691 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 2: I don't care where you get them free agent draft pick. 692 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 2: Matt Taylor's thirty third guy is going to be my 693 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 2: thirty third. Hear forty fifth is going to be my 694 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 2: forty fifth. The difference is who's winning and losing the 695 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 2: game in that top ten. Go to you go to 696 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: you go to Kansas City, it's Mahomes. You know, it's Kelsey. 697 00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 2: Go to Cincinnati, it's you know, it's Joey Burrow's Chase. 698 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 2: You know, it's Higgins, you know. You go to Philadelphia, 699 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 2: it's Hurts, It's Smith, you know, and aj Brown. I 700 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 2: mean these, you know, and plus each one of those, 701 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 2: every one of those teams has really top edge rushers 702 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 2: when they get a lead. I'm only using those three 703 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 2: teams because they're right at the top of our league 704 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 2: and they are loaded with top ten guys. They got 705 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 2: average guys at thirty, but they're to load it, and 706 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 2: you have to have a quarterback to start with. He's 707 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 2: got to be a part of that. So if the 708 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 2: Colts are going to get any better, and they certainly 709 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 2: didn't do it in free agency, if they're going to 710 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 2: get any better, they have got to address the explosiveness 711 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 2: ambient game changing players. In my opinion, in twenty two, 712 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 2: we had three guys. Jonathan Taylor unfortunately got hurt, but 713 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 2: he is a game changer. He is a guy that 714 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 2: as a defensive coordinator, I say, I have to schematically 715 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 2: stop him, not technically schematically on defense. I think there 716 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 2: was two. Buckner obviously is a guy I have to 717 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 2: schematically play, and I thought the other guy was Gilmore. 718 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 2: I thought Gilmour was a top tier guy. Still I 719 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,439 Speaker 2: scratch my head that he's traded for a fifth hard 720 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 2: for me to believe. But when you go beyond that, now, 721 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 2: Leonard brings that when he's healthy, he brings the ability 722 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 2: to turn a round game. But the rest of it, 723 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 2: it's just pedestrian at this point. There are some young 724 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 2: guys like Pierce and the tight ends. There's some guys 725 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,720 Speaker 2: you know that have some of it, but there's nobody 726 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 2: at night that you go to sleep on on Tuesday 727 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 2: night and you say, oh my god, I got to 728 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 2: block that guy or I got to block that guy 729 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 2: other than those three guys I mentioned. So I would think, 730 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 2: as a general rule, we have to get very very 731 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 2: explosive guys. And then I think kind of going along 732 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 2: with that, you know, I've used that term all the time. 733 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 2: They taught me early in my pro career. When you're 734 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 2: getting top draft voice get guys that put the ball 735 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 2: in the end zone or guys that knock the quarterback down, 736 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 2: and then you go from there. The other position I 737 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 2: think is important is corner. So you know, in terms 738 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 2: of specific needs, now that Gilmore's gone, I think we 739 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 2: had it anyway, but we really have a quarter where 740 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 2: we created our own need. I mean, that's what's really 741 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 2: amazing about this winner. We created a need. This is 742 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 2: a year of really good and deep corners. I mean 743 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 2: day one and day two. You know, but if you 744 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 2: if you had Gilmour, maybe you could take somebody else. 745 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 2: I think you have that. I think you have the 746 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 2: need for an edge rusher that really makes the difference. 747 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 2: You know, a both a von Miller, Miles Garrett, a 748 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 2: Riddick from Philadelphia. Guys that just you have to scheme, 749 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 2: you know. I think on defense those two things, you know, 750 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 2: and then on offense, we need a game changing receiver. 751 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,240 Speaker 2: Pierce is a deep guy. Now, there are a lot 752 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 2: of second day what I call slot guys, fast, small 753 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,959 Speaker 2: but explosive slot guys. There's not you don't have those 754 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 2: premier guys this year, but it might be to our 755 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 2: advantage because I think there's gonna be a handful Now 756 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 2: it's not a big it's not a big group, but 757 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 2: a handful of slot type explosive guys. You need that. Obviously, 758 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 2: the right guard situation has to be addressed. Tackle depth, 759 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 2: you know, I think those areas are the key areas, 760 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 2: no doubt. 761 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, tackle depth. I mean, right now, I don't know 762 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 1: if if Bernard Ryman were to hypothetically not be available, 763 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: let's put it that way, in the offseason workout program, Rick, 764 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure as of right now where the Colts 765 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: would go with their starting left tackle in the spring. Here. 766 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's where. 767 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 2: They're gonna have to buke up. Man, You're gonna have 768 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,479 Speaker 2: to bulk up to get in there. 769 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: Yep, for sure, for sure. All right, lastly, close out here. 770 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: We were talking off the air before we started the podcast. 771 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,439 Speaker 1: In the past, you've had and you still do. You've 772 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:16,240 Speaker 1: got categories, You've got Morse Reservoir, all Stars. In the draft, 773 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: you got you put guys in buckets, and that's one 774 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 1: of them. We always hear about your blue Chippers during 775 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: the season. We hear often about ambient players. Guys. You 776 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: have to scheme for guys that keep you up at night. 777 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: Now you've got a new a new bucket, a new category. 778 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: Lay it out on us before the draft coming up 779 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 1: next week. 780 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 2: Okay, everybody kind of always looks for my I know, 781 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 2: the guys up here in Noblesville they always and Morse 782 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 2: Reservoir They're always giving me some some some crap about this, 783 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 2: But I do. I have Morse Reservoir All Stars guys 784 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,399 Speaker 2: that I just really really like, and not necessarily Top 785 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 2: twenty guys, but guys that have hit me on film. 786 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 2: And you know, as I went along this season, I 787 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 2: realized in the draft and the evaluation that what are 788 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 2: really look for are things that you can't coach. That's 789 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 2: explosiveness in that magical thing twitch, which is no more 790 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 2: than just absolute quickness, and explosiveness is speed and the 791 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 2: ability to you know, be like a drag race or 792 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 2: go from one to you know, go from one to 793 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 2: three hundred and a quarter. And so I've called it 794 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 2: the I've kind of combined the Morris Reservoir All Stars 795 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 2: with that explosive in Twitch, and I call it my 796 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,919 Speaker 2: et group. Remember the movie et come home. 797 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: You know, you know, I think where's Drew Barrymore? Is 798 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:35,839 Speaker 1: she in there? 799 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,399 Speaker 2: Yeah? She might be the assistant coach on that team. 800 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 2: But you know so anyway, I'm gonna give you just 801 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 2: some names and we'll be talking about these guys next 802 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 2: Thursday night. But you know, most of these guys are 803 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 2: There's gonna be a handful of guys that might be 804 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 2: Top twenty, but for the most part, they're below the 805 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 2: top twenty. These are guys that really have speed and 806 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 2: closiveness and I like them on tape. Three wide receivers, Okay, 807 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 2: Zay Flowers, Jalen Hyatt from Tennessee, and Marvin Mims from Oklahoma, 808 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 2: Jay Flowers from Boston College. Just keep those three guys 809 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 2: in mind. I love the running back out of two lane, 810 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:24,359 Speaker 2: and that's Taijon Spears. Okay, Taijon Spears out of Pontchitoula, Louisiana. 811 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 2: And I know nobody knows where that is but me. 812 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 2: They had a great catfish place there, all right. I 813 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 2: actually have two offensive linemen, believe it or not. Normally 814 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,399 Speaker 2: you don't think of lineman, but I'm going to put 815 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 2: two guys that I just love. Now. One of them 816 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,319 Speaker 2: is really rising Darnell Right out of Tennessee. He's going 817 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 2: to be uh, he may be top twenty. He's a 818 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 2: right tackle with terrific athlete. And then I really like 819 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,839 Speaker 2: Cody Mack who's attacked the center out of North Dakota State. 820 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,919 Speaker 2: Are those are my offensive guys. And then I got 821 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 2: two honorable mentioned quarterbacks. Okay, obviously they are going to 822 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 2: be mid round guys, and that is Stetson Bennett out 823 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 2: of Georgia. You know, if he can stay off the 824 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 2: DUI list, and then and then the Hall kid out 825 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 2: of bringing him Young. I love those two guys in 826 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 2: the mid round quarterbacks. On defense, all right, I'll start 827 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 2: with a couple edge guys that I really like. Nolan 828 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 2: Smith out of Georgia. He's one of my all time favorites. 829 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 2: And Brian Young out of Tennessee. These guys can smoke 830 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:33,240 Speaker 2: it off the edge. Elijah Cantsey, the defensive tackle, obviously 831 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 2: did real well at the combine. He's another explosive guy. 832 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 2: Now this is critical. These are three corners I really 833 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 2: like and this these are this is gonna be you know, 834 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 2: low ones twos. So these are guys that we may 835 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,760 Speaker 2: be talking about my favorite corner in the draft, believe 836 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 2: it or not, as Devon Banks out of Maryland. I 837 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 2: really like him, Emanuel Forbes out of Mississippi State, and 838 00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 2: then DJ Turner out of Michigan. These are guys fly, 839 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 2: you know, can turn on a dime and so forth 840 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 2: and so on, and then I've got an honorable mention 841 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 2: on this team and we've done We've done really well 842 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 2: with Northeastern players with Rogers and then our safety last year, Yeah, Thomas, 843 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 2: and that's im. I have a hard time saying it's 844 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 2: Iosovic is the wide receiver out of Princeton. He is 845 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,359 Speaker 2: a again he he is a real Morris as our star. 846 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 2: But he can fly. And like I said, we've gotten 847 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 2: too late round draft picks out of that Northeast that 848 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 2: have had real impacts on our team. So maybe we'll 849 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 2: get a third. 850 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you're talking about andre Ioss. I think 851 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 1: as what I'm going with. 852 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 2: That is how it's Yeah, that's how it's pretty Yah. 853 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,720 Speaker 1: He played the Senior Bowl. 854 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like he's like a you know, four three 855 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 2: nine forty. I mean this is I'm you know, you 856 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 2: don't make this team. You don't make this team to 857 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 2: be honest with you. How only do I have to 858 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 2: like young film? You have to have really good metrics 859 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 2: or you're not making my team. 860 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt you're You're traits guy. I like that 861 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: about you. You got good traits about Rick Venturrey, do 862 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: all right? 863 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 2: And I can't coach speed and twitch, That's one thing 864 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 2: I know. 865 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,879 Speaker 1: No, you gotta have that. You're getting that somewhere else. 866 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,439 Speaker 1: Rick Ventury Inside Football, Breaking down the Quarterbacks, breaking down 867 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: the Draft. We are one week away from the twenty 868 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: twenty three first round of the draft. Between now and then, Rick, 869 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Are you? Are you watching more tape? 870 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 1: How are you going to get that extra edge about 871 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: you with a week to go before the draft? 872 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 2: Well, what I'm doing now is I'm doing a little 873 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 2: bit of bottom feeding. You know, I call it bottom feeding. 874 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,879 Speaker 2: You know kids that you know names are coming up, 875 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 2: and and I keep a list. I mean I read everything, 876 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 2: and you know, I have a list, for instance, of 877 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 2: guys that played well in the Hula Bowl, guys played 878 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 2: well in the East West Shrine Games, Guys that have 879 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 2: had good pro days that maybe you know, maybe don't 880 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 2: come across the every day or top one fifty or 881 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 2: top two hundred, And what I'm doing here is going 882 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 2: back not so much that we would even you know, 883 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 2: necessarily be covering them, but Chris does a really good 884 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 2: job on that third day and I like to kind 885 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 2: of be on top of that. Plus, you know, I'll 886 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 2: tell you the more I study, the better it is 887 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,919 Speaker 2: when we get into the real games, because I kind 888 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 2: of have a book on guys that we're playing against, 889 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 2: right you know, yeah, you're. 890 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,800 Speaker 1: Gonna see a lot of these guys in their rookie 891 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 1: seasons next year playing against the Colts. 892 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 2: And nobody does it better than you. And you know, 893 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 2: in those quarters of those preseason games, you better. 894 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 1: Know these guys. Yeah, you better know where they come from. 895 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,479 Speaker 1: You gotta have a personal anecdote. I feel like Vin 896 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: Scully in the and the third and back in the 897 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 1: day when you had four preseason games. Yeah, then you 898 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: had to really dig deep on some personal anecdotes on 899 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: some of these guys. But it's fun. I mean, listen, 900 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 1: it's it's football beats. 901 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 2: Does it better than you do? We have done better 902 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 2: than you, dude. 903 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: We have a good time. Rick and I. By the way, again, 904 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 1: we have live draft coverage for you next Thursday and Friday, 905 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 1: broadcasting the entirety of the first three rounds on our 906 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 1: flagship station ninety three five one oh seven five the 907 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 1: Fan Inn Indy. Joe Wrights is gonna join us on 908 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 1: Thursday night, then Rick and I will carry you on Friday. 909 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 1: And can't wait for it, my man. I'm ready. I 910 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: know we kind of joked about this. I'm drafted out 911 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 1: in terms of the hyperbole and the smoke. I'm just 912 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,479 Speaker 1: ready for the narrative to change. So I can't wait 913 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 1: for it. Rick, Thursday Night's gonna be awesome. Thanks as 914 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 1: always for the breakdown, and we'll do it again soon. 915 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 2: All right, Matt, I'll see you Thursday. 916 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 1: You got it, Rick Venturre, Inside Football breaking down the 917 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 1: NFL Draft. I'm Matt Taylor, and that's it for this 918 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 1: draft installment of Inside Football with RV. We'll talk to 919 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: you again soon later on this week right here on the 920 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: Colts Audio Network. So long,