1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in to the Wednesday edition Clay 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Insanity raining down everywhere. We 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: are voices for sanity in an insane world. You've got 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: us for the next three hours to pilot the ship. 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: Last night, Buck and I had the good fortune of 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: going to dinner with Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida. We 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: had him on the show yesterday as well. Appreciate the 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: Governor's time, good conversation, good time was had by all. 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: But within the time while we were there eating dinner, Buck, 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: I feel like Disney completely and totally lost its mind 12 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: over the bill that had been signed in Florida to 13 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: allow kindergartner's first graders, second graders, and third graders not 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: to be instructed about sex related issues. And Disney, we 15 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: talked about earlier this week, came out with a statement 16 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: slamming the state of Florida and saying they were going 17 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: to try to repeal this bill, and Rohn de Santis 18 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: obviously fired back about that yesterday. But I want to 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: play some of these clips from high ranking Disney executives, 20 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: and I want everyone out there to think about this. 21 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: The foremost company in the world when it comes to 22 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: entertaining children is in an uproar over a bill that 23 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: does not allow kindergartener's, first graders, second graders, or third 24 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: graders to be taught about sex related issues. By the way, 25 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: the vast majority of American parents agree with this Florida bill. 26 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: But Bucket really kind of gets summed up here. Disney 27 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: has banned For those of you and I grew up 28 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: going to Disney World, this is what my parents love 29 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: to do. We would stay in the campground at Fort Wilderness. 30 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: For anybody out there who knows familiar with Disney World, 31 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: that was where we went on our family vacations. We 32 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: would stay in the campground. We would we had an 33 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: amazing time. As part of many of their celebrations, they 34 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: often would say ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls in 35 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: an effort to speak to everyone who was inside of 36 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: the park. These insane people at Disney have decided that 37 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: using the words ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls is 38 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: not gender inclusive enough, and so they have banned the 39 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: usage of ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls inside of 40 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: the park. And I want to play some of this 41 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: for you. First of all, here is Ron DeSantis, who 42 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: we had dinner with last night. What he said about 43 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: what Disney's response to this bill has been. Listen, I 44 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: think they crossed the line. And you know, people ask me, 45 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, kind of about you know, their posture on 46 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: the bill. I said, you know what, if we would 47 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: have put in the bill that you were not allowed 48 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: to have curriculum that discussed the oppression of the wagers 49 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: in China, Disney would have endorsed that in a second. 50 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: And that's the hypocrisy of this. And you know, we're 51 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: going to make sure we're fighting back when people are 52 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: threatening our parents and threatening our kids. Clay, can we 53 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: just review what's happened in the last couple of weeks 54 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: that's taken us to this point, just so everyone's clear. 55 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: LGBTQI A plus activists, good job by that. But thank you. 56 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: I mean that is the gail that Yeah, that's the 57 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: real acronym. Okay, lgbtq I A plus. They activists decided 58 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: to rename a bill that is very clear in its 59 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: language about not having kindergarten through third grade students instructed 60 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: in gender identity and sexuality and matters that that pretended 61 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: that that that is what it says. The activists renamed 62 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: it the Don't Say Gay Bill for them all of 63 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: a sudden, not teaching kindergarteners about gender identity and sex. 64 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: Let's just be honest about sex and what you know, 65 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: procreation and all these things. That is an assault, according 66 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: to the activists on the LGBTQI A plus community. And 67 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: then we sat We sat there and said, hold on 68 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: a second. It's one thing when Disney stands up and 69 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: says that they're going to virtue signal on this and 70 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: the Disney executives, but this went and hat tip Chris Ruffo, 71 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: who finds so much of this stuff out there, the 72 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,239 Speaker 1: training about critical race theory and the training and gender theory, 73 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,119 Speaker 1: gender identity at corporations. And if you go against this stuff, 74 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: just so everybody understands, I mean, if you're a Disney employee, 75 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: let's say, and you speak out against this, they'll call 76 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: you a bigot, they'll probably fire you. Right. So this 77 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: is the world we are living in. Now Here is 78 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: Disney President Carrie Burke, who is saying that she wants 79 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: now she's the president of Content Clay, she gets to 80 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: determine what gets made at Disney as a movie as 81 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: a TV show, saying that she wants more lgbdq I 82 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: A plus characters up to fifty percent in the next year. 83 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: Lead characters must be from that community, play clib One. 84 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm here as a mother of two queer children, actually 85 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: one transgender child and one hand sexual child, and also 86 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: as a leader, And that was a thing that really 87 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: got me because I have heard so much from so 88 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: many of my colleagues over the course of the last 89 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: couple of weeks and open forums and through emails and 90 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: phone conversations, and I feel responsibility to speak not just 91 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: for myself but for them to all of us. We 92 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: had a we have an open forum last week at 93 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: twentieth where again the home of really incredible groundbreaking lgbt 94 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: QIA stories over the years, where one of our execs 95 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: stood up and said, you know, we only have a 96 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: handful of queer leads in our content. And I went, 97 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: what that can't be true and I and I realized, oh, 98 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: it actually is true. So so she's upset, Clay, I mean, 99 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: think about this, she's upset that there aren't enough. I 100 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: remember when using there were you know, the Q word 101 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: was you're not allowed. But now it's a word we 102 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: do use because it's in the acronym that's the Q 103 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: and the LGBTQIA plus. So she says we don't have 104 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: enough queer leads. That's one thing. This is for Disney content, folks, 105 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: just remember that for your kids. This is cartoons for 106 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: your kids to watch mostly. And then on the other 107 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: end of it, notice she starts out and says the 108 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: parent of two queer children. I believe she says a 109 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: transgender and pan sexual child. Now maybe she means adult children. 110 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: That's not clear. To be fair to what she says, 111 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: how many people listening to this said pan sexual? I 112 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: have no outer I know what a transgender person is, 113 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: and I do think it's important. I would like to 114 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: know how old her kids are, because when she says kids, 115 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean some people talk about their kids and they're thirty, 116 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, likes because they're still their kids. Uh, what 117 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: is a pan sexual? I legitimate? I'm not even kidding, buck, 118 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: I have no idea what a pan sexual is. So 119 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: so I I got you. I'm getting attacked by the 120 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: by the by the blue haired masked in their Twitter photos. Uh, 121 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, mafia of the left on this issue, because 122 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: I just pointed out, basically, nobody knows what this is. 123 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: It's a term that has almost never been used. They'll 124 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: say it goes back to psychiatry and the like early 125 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: mid twentieth century. Pan sexual as opposed to bisexual, Right, 126 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: bisexuals pretty straightforward. It's somebody who's attracted to men and women, 127 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: so they design and women's will exist. And well, see 128 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: here's the thing. They've expanded their pan sexual means. Irrespective 129 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: of whether somebody actually is gender conforming, ie, if someone 130 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: is not actually male or female somehow, you are still 131 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: attracted to that person. You're attracted to all people, irrespective 132 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: of where they fall on the dozens of gender and 133 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: pronoun options that are out there now. So it's basically 134 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: saying I'm an all of the above approach, including non 135 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: gender conforming people. Now to those listening to this saying, 136 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: hold on a second, there really are I mean, it's 137 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: one thing to say you can be trans right, go 138 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: from one gender to the other, but there really are 139 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: actually two genders. There's male, there's female. Like this is 140 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: a function of biology. Understand that not only are they 141 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: fighting us on this or arguing, debating on this. This 142 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: is the president of Content at Disney, Clay saying, we 143 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: need to teach this stuff through our content to your children. 144 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: That is what the senior person in charge of this 145 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: at Disney is saying to everyone across America who's hearing 146 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: this right now. It's I mean what I saw a 147 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: quote from I'm not sure who said it, but I 148 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: know that there are a lot of Disney people, and 149 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: let's be clear, by the way, there are a lot 150 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: of Disney employees who roundly reject probably the majority of 151 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: them and maybe even the vast majority of them, all 152 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: of this right, the idea that Disney needs to be 153 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: a hyper political organization, that the president of Disney needs 154 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: to be saying that her pan sexual children need to 155 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: be reflected in in the cartoons that your kids are watching. 156 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: This is, by the way, crazy, and Walt Disney himself 157 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: would be rolling over in his grave if he saw 158 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: what his company was coming to represent now. And this 159 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: is I gotta give credit. We had Jordan Peterson on 160 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: a while ago, but what he said and has continued 161 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: to say for years has been so pressient because got 162 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people who own businesses. When you let 163 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: these diversity and inclusion imbeciles into your company with the 164 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: idea being that they are going to strengthen your company. 165 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: You don't understand that you are effectively this is the 166 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: trojan war. You are letting them into your company and 167 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: they are going to destroy it, and they are going 168 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: to destroy you. This is what's happening inside of Disney. 169 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: I mean it is. This is the trojan war. They 170 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: are saying, hey, you've got to have more diversity in 171 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: the trojan horse, in the trojan horse. Yes, uh, they 172 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: are when they are getting inside of the companies and 173 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: they are destroying them from the inside. And that's what's 174 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: happening to Disney right now. Their their goal the D 175 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: E and I or is it the D and sorry 176 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: D and I rather diversity and inclusion training and all 177 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: of this and this ideology of the left that's being 178 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: infused through corporations like Disney and Google and Facebook and Netflix, 179 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: every Golden Sax by the way, and you know and 180 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: Cravat and you know that's a top law firm in 181 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: New York, pretty famous law firm for the legal folks 182 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: out there. You know, these places are also the announced 183 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: their pronouns. Places now in emails and in meetings. You know, 184 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: my name is John. My pronounces are he him? This 185 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: is what's going on all over the place. They don't see. 186 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: They bring this in under the rubric of inclusiveness and 187 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: everyone feeling comfortable and everyone being okay. And then when 188 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: you say, hold on, I actually don't think that my 189 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: toddler should be watching a movie that is delving into 190 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: or a cartoon that's delving into the pan sexuality of 191 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: a character. I don't think they're ready for that. You're 192 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: a bigot. Maybe you should be fired, Maybe you should 193 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,119 Speaker 1: lose your job and be you run out of society 194 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: because you're so hateful. That is their mentality. They're not 195 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: looking to educate people and bring other people in and 196 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: have a convert. It's not about a conversation. It's a lecture. 197 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: And that's what Rohm de Santists here in Florida has 198 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: understood from the beginning of this fight. They're not looking 199 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: to have everyone beat. Everyone should be treated with dignity 200 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: and decency. We're nice guys, Clay. We advocate for everybody 201 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: to be nice and fair and kind to people. This 202 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: is about, though, what is true, and it's about what's 203 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: true for your kids. It's about what's true for your children. 204 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: We need to play a couple more of these clips 205 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: because I think parents out there are going to find 206 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: these to be jaw dropping. And by the way, this 207 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: is the president of Disney. We're not talking about some random, 208 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, a low level employee who's protesting in Disney 209 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: and making her own or his own videos. We're talking 210 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: about somebody who decides what shows are made at Disney. 211 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: Can ire was also say real quickly, we'll come back 212 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: to more of this because there's folks you haven't even heard. 213 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: There's more. I mean, we've got more people at Disney, 214 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: more clips, more things, And we haven't even gone to 215 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden bombshell today, which is essentially the Washington 216 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: Post admitting everything we've been telling you on this show 217 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: and before this show, even the twenty twenty election, when 218 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: Clay and I were doing our own radio shows, everything 219 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: we've been telling the audience is true about It's all true, 220 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: and the Washington Post is now saying, Okay, yeah, I 221 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: guess let's see an see even. I mean, we're going 222 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: to dive into this, but at least my steak is 223 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: gonna be great. I was gonna say, at least when 224 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: I go bankrupt buying your Kobe Beef, it'll be because 225 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: some measure of justice is being applied in this country. 226 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: We'll see, but we'll come back into this and we've 227 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: got a Hunter Biden stuff. We have a stack show today. 228 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: We're not gonna have time to even hit everything we want, 229 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: so please stay with us for each moment. Start your 230 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: day off with a brand new coffee that Clay and 231 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: I both love. 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We'll discuss how this was both the topic 267 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: of enormous and intentional lies from the press to try 268 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: to steer the election to Joe Biden, and then also 269 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: what this could mean about corruption for the first family 270 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: and the political liabilities just creates and perhaps even yes, 271 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: Clay criminal liabilities that stakes gonna taste so good buck 272 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: attached to all of this. We will get to all 273 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: of that in just a bit later this hour, but 274 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: first we want to talk to you about teachers unions 275 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: making policy for schools when it comes to COVID, which 276 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: is so weird because teachers unions don't have any science expertise, 277 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: So why would the CDC allow line by line edits 278 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: of policy at the behest at the direction of the 279 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: teachers unions. One of these stalwarts in this fight for 280 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: truth is with us now. Our friend Carol Markowitz, columnist 281 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: from the New York Post and a New Florida resident, 282 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: by the way, after leaving New York after decades, Carol. 283 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: Great to have you again. Hi guys, thanks for having me. 284 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: So what just lay it out for everybody? I know 285 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: Foxnews dot Com had the story up how they had 286 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: the exclusive on this one. But there's now what we 287 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: would call smoking gun email proof that Fauci, the CDC, etc. 288 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: Just took like line by line edits opening schools or 289 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: not from teachers unions. Yeah. So the thing is that 290 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: we've known all along that this was the case. It's 291 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: just evermore evidence is coming up to further proof that 292 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: that was the truth. And again, you know, you and I, 293 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: the three of us have discussed this all along that 294 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: we knew that Randy Winegarden sat down with the CDC 295 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: and said that their moved to move from six feet 296 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: of distance to three feet of distance in classrooms was 297 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: not going to work for her and they're going to 298 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: need to change the science to fit what her members want. 299 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: So we've known this for a year. I recall writing 300 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: about this a year ago that this was going on. 301 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: It's just that now we have more proof. I don't 302 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: know who this proof is going to change their mind. 303 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: I think that the left really doesn't want to hear 304 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: that the science is not the science, and that Randy 305 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: Winegarden gets to dictate scientific policy. But if it moves 306 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: anybody over to the side of sanity, I'm glad to 307 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: see it. Yesterday Carol, on our show, Ron De Santis 308 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: was a guest and he said he hasn't met anyone 309 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: who has relocated to Florida and regretted the decision. Yeah, 310 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: and I'm curious. I'm sure you, as a mom have 311 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: met at this point, lots of other moms who have 312 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: made that decision, lots of other people who have relocated. 313 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: What has your interactions with people who've relocated to Florida 314 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: partly to ensure your kids have a normal schoolgoing experience. 315 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: What have those interactions been, Like, I'm telling you that 316 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: the main complaint that I hear from people who have 317 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: relocated is why didn't we do this sooner? Like? Why 318 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: did we wait until COVID forced us out? Why didn't 319 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: we see that freedom and liberty was available in Florida 320 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: all along, That the weather is amazing, that the people 321 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,479 Speaker 1: are normal, There's so much going for this state and 322 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: has been for so long. But I didn't see it 323 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: until COVID. I didn't understand how much more I could have, 324 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: how much more my family could have, until COVID really 325 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: forced me to see things that I couldn't unsee. I 326 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: couldn't unsee that my New York neighbors didn't care, that 327 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: people who couldn't send their kids to private schools didn't 328 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: have options, and that while their kids had pods or tutors, 329 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: their neighbors who didn't have as much as them couldn't 330 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: have those things. And Implorida the governor, made sure that 331 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: all schools were open. He forced that issue, and he 332 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: took He did it at a political peril. It wasn't 333 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: an obvious answer at the time. It wasn't like everybody was, oh, yeah, 334 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: schools should open. It was like, oh, maybe schools shouldn't open. 335 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: And he put his political capital on the line, and 336 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: he was right every step of the way. And I 337 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: wish we had done this sooner. We're speaking at Carol 338 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: Markowitz comments at the New York Post and a stalwart 339 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: in support of children being able to be in school 340 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: in person without masks all across the country, which I 341 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: know for many people listening Carol, they're like, yeah, of course, 342 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: Like that's the way it's been for a long time, 343 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: not in New York State, not in California. There are 344 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: a bunch of places where they're still a lot of 345 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: lingering madness. But I actually wanted to get your sense 346 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: of how the Parental Rights and Education Bill is creating 347 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: so much tumult on the left. I mean, they're going 348 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: all in the oscars obviously, which we all know what 349 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 1: got the most attention there, but people were making comments 350 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: about that don't say gay bill. And I'm sure you've 351 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: seen this stuff that Chris Ruffo has found him put 352 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: out on the Internet of the Disney senior executive talking 353 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: about the need to essentially push these like openly to 354 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: push these agendas of children cartoons. I think the left 355 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: is going to find out on this midterm. I'm hoping 356 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: they'll find this midterm that when you tell parents they're 357 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: not allowed to be involved in their kids education and 358 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: that left wing indoctrination is a necessary thing, they're going 359 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: to find there's a backlash to this. Yeah. Absolutely. I 360 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: have spoken to parents in Florida all across the political spectrum, 361 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: and none of them think that kindergarten, kindergartner's, first graders, 362 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: second graders, a third graders, should be learning about sexual 363 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: orientation or gender anything in school. And the thing is 364 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: this absolutely happens. Parents know that kids are being indoctrinated 365 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: with this kind of stuff very early, and it doesn't 366 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: have to be you know, anything to do. I actually 367 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: have nothing to do with gay at all. There's absolutely 368 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: nothing in the bill that says you can't say gay, 369 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: so the fact that they're repeating gay constantly makes no sense. 370 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: It's really about introducing the concept of transgenderism to very 371 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: small kids who are very susceptible to, you know, information 372 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: from authority leaders around them. I've seen this with my 373 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: own eyes. I've seen kids be told that they can 374 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: be anything they want to be, and they end up 375 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: believing that they are the opposite gender just because somebody 376 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: in an authority position gave them that option. Kids are, 377 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: you know, they don't know a lot yet, and they 378 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: absolutely pick up cues from their teachers and their parents 379 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: and people around them. The funny thing about this whole 380 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: thing is that Disney has taken a ridiculous stand that 381 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with their business model, and it's 382 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: just every corporation that embraces wulkness in this way ends 383 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: up hurting themselves. It's absurd that Disney would get involved 384 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: in this, and those videos yesterday should give parents, i mean, 385 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: a real scare about what their kids are watching on 386 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: Disney programs. No doubt, Carol, you work at the New 387 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: York Post. We're going to dive into in a big way. 388 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: This Hunter Biden's story suddenly being validated. I think it 389 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: was last week by The New York Times. A couple 390 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: of hours ago. The Washington Post suddenly comes out and says, Oh, 391 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: by the way, all the emails the laptop story was real. 392 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: CNN is now covering it eighteen months later. How much 393 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: validation do you take as an employee of the New 394 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: York Post that your paper got all of this right 395 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: eighteen months ago. If there were real journalism justice, you 396 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: get like the next your paper would and the writers 397 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: who've worked on this like the next ten years worth 398 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: of Pulitzers right because they spoke truth to the face 399 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: of power and it took a long time for it 400 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: to be validated. What is the vibe in the New 401 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: York Post news room as everyone else suddenly acknowledges, Oh, yeah, 402 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,479 Speaker 1: those guys got it right. So it's funny because the 403 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: New York Times story did not have any additional information. 404 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: It was like, we have now considered that the information 405 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: that was available is correct. I think the big story, 406 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: and I fully agree that the people at the New 407 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: York Post have been validated. I think that the fact 408 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: that the Twitter and Facebook had gotten so deeply involved 409 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: in shutting down the story that you couldn't dm it 410 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: to anybody, it was really absurd. It to make people 411 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: afraid of what is happening online and how much control 412 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: these companies have over us. But I think the real question, 413 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: and I'm sure that you both will be diving into this, 414 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: is why now, why are all these news organizations going 415 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: into this now? And to me, I mean, it's a 416 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: pretty easy answer that they don't want Biden to be 417 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four nominee and this is a way 418 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: to injure him without making it seem like they're really 419 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: throwing anything at him. But you know, I'm looking forward 420 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: to hearing what you guys have to say about it now, 421 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: and I think that's right right, we were actually talking 422 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: about this, Carrol. It's like you're the third on the 423 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: conversation we just have before the show. We're talking to 424 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: this on air because my just you know, and Clay 425 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: and I are make a lot of jokes about we 426 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: have an on air bet um about whether or not 427 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: they'll be charges against Hunter Biden. And my contention is 428 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: not that Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden clearly broke the law. 429 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: But up until this point, I think it has been 430 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: clear that the the apparatus, whether it's you know, Biden's DJ, 431 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: the Libs that run prosecutor's offices, et cetera, was willing 432 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: to look the other way and or protect him the 433 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: same way they did Hillary. Mean, what Hillary did was 434 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: recklessness under the Statute of Handling classified information. I had 435 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: a t S clearance, I know what this is like. 436 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: She broke the law full stop, and Comey just said 437 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: no prosecutor would bring charges. That's just not true. They 438 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: protected her. I'm wondering now, and we'll be talking about 439 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: this as to whether to the point you make about Biden, 440 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: whether Hunter Biden is no longer a made guy so 441 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 1: to speak. Remember in The Departed, when if there are 442 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,239 Speaker 1: guys you can't hit, Hunter had kind of been for 443 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: the lib corporate media, a guy you can hit. It 444 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: starts to feel like they decide all of a sudden. No, 445 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: he is a guy you can hit ky. I think 446 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,239 Speaker 1: he's more like Joe Pesci and Good Fellows. He's going 447 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: to be invited into a room to get made and 448 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: get waxed instead. Well, very good analogy. He doesn't have 449 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: that protection anymore. I think they will go after him. 450 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: And then then there's also our mutual we're speaking to 451 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,959 Speaker 1: Carol Mark Whets of the New York Post New York 452 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: Post columnists, Carol, there's Fauci. We're also be talking about 453 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: him in a little bit. He's still out there, and 454 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is talking about going back to restrictions, 455 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: and I really don't know. I get so mad, and 456 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: so it's just so angry about all this that it's 457 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: almost hard for me to verbalize my feelings about this 458 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: guy and people that are still supporting him. Do you 459 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: think we've reached the point where a solid majority of 460 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: the American people across party lines realize he is an 461 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: evil little hyrn smurf and was wrong about everything or not? No, 462 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: across party lines, absolutely not. I think all the blue 463 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: areas will listen to everything he says, follow all the 464 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: directions to the letter, and put in the same failed 465 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: tactics that have not worked the whole time. I already 466 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,479 Speaker 1: see New York going back to masks. I see it. 467 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean it hasn't been mandated yet, but I already, 468 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: like my kid's old school in New York to school 469 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: bus is back to masking. It's crazy, Clay, I mean 470 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: I think I think she sees it too. I mean 471 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: I see people walking around New York City where I live, 472 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: and there are out there are outdoor maskers all over 473 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: the place still as it's never going to go away. 474 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: And unless the message is so crystal clear that there 475 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: is a reckoning in the mid terms, this is what 476 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: we've been arguing, Buck, that we have to end up 477 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: with a reckoning in this spot. I think we lost 478 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: Carol may had dropped off there, but she has fantastic work. 479 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: You still got you, Okay, I thought we love you. 480 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: Last word. Yeah, Do you think that kids are going 481 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: to have to wear masks again in school? If you 482 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: were betting, yes, If I was betting, and I am 483 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: a betting woman, I would be betting that in blue 484 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: areas masks will be introduced before the next school year. 485 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: I just moms and dads out there with kids. I 486 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: just can't imagine if you live in a blue state 487 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: or blue city and your kids have to put masks 488 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: back on. Carol fantastic work has always we appreciate thanks. 489 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 1: Thank you, Hillsdale College. They do so much more than 490 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: provide a proper college education to the undergrads on their 491 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: Michigan campus. A decade ago, they determined to use video 492 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: streaming to provide you with online courses free of charge. 493 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: Their charter is to educate. Their charter is to explain 494 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: and defend our nation's freedoms. So while they provide a 495 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: classic liberal arts education to an outstanding group of students, 496 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: they also provide you and I with online education in 497 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: the form of on demand video courses. 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Please 507 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: sign up today to take Hillsdale's free course at Clay 508 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: and Buck four Hillsdale dot com. One more time. That's 509 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck four Hillsdale dot Com. The supply chain 510 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: of smart, sanity and truth Uninterrupted. Clay Travis and Buck 511 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: Sexton Welcome in our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 512 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: I hope you guys are having fantastic starts to your 513 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: hump days wherever you may be across this great country 514 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: or this great land. We've had two really good hours 515 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: of the program already. Want to reiterate for those of 516 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: you who are just joining us now, our thanks to 517 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: Florida Governor Ron De Santis. Buck and I had dinner 518 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: with him last night in the Governor's mansion in Tallahassee. 519 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: Fantastic to discuss a variety of issues with him. He 520 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: was on the show yesterday. Encourage you to go listen 521 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: to that. On the podcast, we talked a lot about 522 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: the craziness that is coming out of Disney in the 523 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: wake of the parental rights bill that was passed in 524 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 1: Florida and the massive overreaction, including the labeling of that 525 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: Bill don't say gay. We've talked a lot about what's 526 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: going on with Hunter Biden, the Washington Post and CNN 527 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: suddenly acknowledging that the laptop is real, and then Hunter 528 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: Biden faces potentially significant criminal consequences as a result. Where 529 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: are we headed in that regard? But we want to 530 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: dive into a couple of stories here that are significant. One, 531 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: we told you this was going to happen. Katanji Brown Jackson, 532 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: Supreme Court nominee to replace Stephen Bryer, is going to 533 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: be confirmed. That was a certainty as soon as Joe Mansion, 534 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: democratic governor of a Democratic senator from West Virginia, announced 535 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: that he was going to be supporting her nomination. Then 536 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: the question became how many Republicans might be willing to 537 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: vote for her. Susan Collins, who voted for Brett Kavanaugh, 538 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: really helped to get Brett Kavanaugh across the finish line 539 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: so that he is on the Supreme Court. And then 540 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: one an incredibly difficult reelection race that no one expected, 541 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: by the way her to win in the state of Maine, 542 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: has become the first Republican to announce that she will 543 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: be voting for Katangi Brown Jackson. Here is what Susan 544 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: Collins just said in the last hour or so regarding 545 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: that nomination. I met with her for an hour and 546 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: a half before the hearing, watched much of the hearing, 547 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: and then I met with her yesterday for an hour. 548 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: At the conclusion of bad extensive review and conversation, I 549 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: came to the conclusion that she clearly had the credentials, 550 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: the experience, the qualifications, and the integrity that I looked 551 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: for in a Supreme Court justice. So there is a 552 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,479 Speaker 1: Republican buck you predicted three I think, I said, Susan 553 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: Collins to me was the most likely who potentially would 554 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: flip met Romney. I would say, is the other one 555 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: that is kind of there, And then there are other 556 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: guys that are retiring that might decide to just go ahead. 557 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: And there's no suspense here really, but this will be 558 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: treated as a major story. Yeah, I gotta say, I'm 559 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: surprised at actually how much the Republican senators were willing 560 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: to push pro basque real questions. They it's a rare moment. 561 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: But see, I admit when I didn't get it exactly 562 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: as it was, I had assumed they would go a 563 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: little bit more gently on this nominee than they did. 564 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: They put and I think they at least created now 565 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't change the outcome either way. So it's kind 566 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: of easy to take a vote as a Republican. Well, 567 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: what's the upside for most of the GOP senators of 568 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: voting in favor of this nominee. There's no upside. There's 569 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: only downside unless you're Susan Collins, unless you're a so 570 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: called moderate Republican who's maybe up for a tough re 571 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: election fight, in which case you have to look at 572 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: the political calculations involved here. But the GOP did actually 573 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: make it easier for those votes to be cast against 574 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: this nominee insofar as they raised real questions about about 575 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: judgment and about credibility on certain issues when it comes 576 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: to jurisprudence, specifically on the child porn sentencing and a 577 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: few other areas where they pressed this nominee pretty hard. 578 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: I was surprised. I was surprised that it's quite honestly, 579 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: I thought they would. I thought it would be a 580 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: little bit more like Amy Coney Barrett, where you could 581 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: tell the Left wanted to land something but they couldn't 582 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: really come up with it, and so they had to 583 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: just sort of allow it to go through the Democrats senators. 584 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: This time around the GOP they put up something of 585 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: a fight. When you could say it was all for show, 586 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: but they put up something of a fight. I believe 587 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: we have. Now let's pivot a bit. Doctor Fauci is 588 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: back out and he is now circling around. We're gonna 589 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: play his cuts in a minute. But Joe Biden has 590 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: just spoken, and I want to They've announced, by the way, 591 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: a fourth booster shot for people who are fifty or over. 592 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: So you're up to four shots now in the last 593 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: year if you are keeping track of all that. And 594 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: by the way, encourage continued encouragement to people who are 595 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: senior citizens, to people who are not healthy, those shots 596 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: I do believe are helpful to you if you are 597 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: relatively young, if you are relatively healthy, makes absolutely no 598 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: sense for you to be concerned about the COVID shot 599 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: based on the data. But here is Joe Biden. Look, Buck, 600 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: we've been arguing about this, not arguing, discussing, but arguing 601 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: as if we were Democrats. What is the pitch that 602 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is going to make to try to forestall 603 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: the red wave that is potentially going to sweep over 604 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: this country. We believe in November. Really there's not much 605 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: out there he can argue COVID. He is going to 606 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: try to argue, and I don't know if the data 607 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: is going to allow him to do it, Buck, but 608 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: he's going to try to argue that he has been 609 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: successful in beating COVID. Here is Joe Biden just a 610 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: few minutes ago saying COVID no longer controls our lives 611 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: because of the strategy we execute it over the past 612 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: year on vaccinations, testing, treatments, and more. We're now in 613 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: a new moment in this pandemic. Does not mean that 614 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen is over. It means that COVID nineteen no 615 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 1: longer controls our lives. That's what it means. Cases are 616 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 1: ticking up as he thought they might. But now, thanks 617 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 1: to the foundation we've laid, America has the tools protect people, 618 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: all people. And you know, as we've done from day one, 619 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: my administration is making it easier than ever for Americans 620 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: access these tools. I'm just gonna say, no, no, this 621 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: is not what was promised. Clay. Remember it was very 622 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: clear we heard it. It was really the primary rallying 623 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: cry other than tremor no joke, where we are, you know, 624 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of mumbling from Biden. The primary rallying cry 625 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: of the Biden candidacy was I'm not gonna shut down 626 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,479 Speaker 1: the economy. I'm gonna shut down the virus. And now 627 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: what we see, more than a year into it, is 628 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: Biden saying, oh, well, we have the tools to better 629 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: manage the forever reality of COVID circulating in our population. 630 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: So let's just start with this is a fail based 631 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: upon the promise that Joe Biden made. Now you and 632 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: I expected this failure, but it is a failure based 633 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: upon the promise that he made to vote. And there's 634 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: still a lot and we're gonna be talking to people 635 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: that have been right on this, whether it's doctor Marty 636 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: McCarry or a friend Alex Barnson or others in the 637 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: days ahead. They just think they're gonna keep rolling out 638 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: these shots and everyone's gonna just keep getting them. And 639 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: you know, we're not done with vaccine passports everywhere. We're 640 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: not done with these things. It is just a pause. 641 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: And that's why Biden saying we have the tools now 642 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: they're trying to know he is trying to normalize in 643 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: the conversation this call it the apparatus of COVID compliance, 644 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: which is just going to be something that we're expected 645 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: to live with, whether it's masking on the planes or 646 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: getting the shot every fall and getting the card to 647 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: say you can go into a restaurant and maybe getting 648 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: a booster and all this stuff. This fight we told 649 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: you isn't over, and you're seeing right now they're getting 650 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: ready for it again. What about the winner of death ending? 651 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: And nobody even calling Joe Biden on this. Remember Buck 652 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: in December when he put out the official statement and 653 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 1: said if you're unvaccinated, it's going to be a winter 654 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 1: of death. And now we're into spring, thankfully, and Joe 655 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: Biden is just trying to pitch, hey we beat COVID. 656 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 1: Hey we're fine. I don't think it's going to register 657 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: with the American public. And also speaking of which, how 658 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: about doctor Fauci. How about doctor Fauci getting interviewed by 659 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: the BBC Buck and being asked about whether or not 660 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: lockdowns had any sort of positive impact. And Faucci now 661 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: has moved on from and I think this is significant 662 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: even if he's not acknowledging the pivot. For a long time, 663 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: the lockdowners out there buck They argued, Oh my goodness, 664 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: if we hadn't locked down, millions of people would have died. 665 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: Now they're not even willing to acknowledge that the lockdown 666 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: was ever the right decision. I believe we have audio. 667 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: Do we have audio? He's asked about sussing this, and 668 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: it turns out it's a little more complicated than that. 669 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: He says, play it. I'm interested in your reluctance to 670 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: use the word. Do you think two years on that 671 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: they were worth it or were they too severe? You know, 672 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: I don't think we're ever going to be able to 673 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: determine what the right balance is. I think the restrictions, 674 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,439 Speaker 1: if you want to use that word, which I tend 675 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: to shy away from, lockdown, there's certainly prevented a lot 676 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: of infections, prevented a lot of hospitalizations, and prevented a 677 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: lot of deaths. There's no doubt about that. Obviously, when 678 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: you do have that kind of restriction on society, there 679 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: are unintended negative consequences, particularly in children who are not 680 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 1: allowed to go to school. In the psychological and mental 681 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 1: health aspects it has on children, in the economic stress 682 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: that it puts on society in general, on individual families. Obviously, 683 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: those are negative consequences that are unintended. Obviously, because I 684 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: think this is the first time he's ever even notice 685 00:38:55,239 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: you the tradeoffs. I've never heard him say obviously, there 686 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 1: are bad things that will happen from this. And notice 687 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: he can't even help himself. The little health stalinist knows 688 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: that the propaganda is the primary purpose of his appearances 689 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: on television. So he says, I don't like the term restrictions. 690 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: What the hell do you call a limiting how many 691 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: people can be in a bar? You're a little idiot. 692 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: What do you call making people mask up between bites 693 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: on planes? You know, this is why he loved that 694 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: term mitigation for so long, and people after a while 695 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: we're like, wait, why, First of all, you're not even 696 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: mitigating anything. And the biggest contention I think is exactly 697 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: that where he says there's no doubt that a lot 698 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: of cases were prevented and a lot of lives were 699 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: by lockdowns, there's actually nothing butt doubt. He has no proof, 700 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: no evidence, no data whatsoever to support his point of view. 701 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: So really what you have is there's a little light 702 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 1: bulb going off over Fauci's head where it's like, oh 703 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: my god, there's all this horrible stuff that happened that 704 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: I made people do by pretending I had the answers, 705 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: and there was no upside, only downside, only misery and 706 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: death and destruction in addition to that created by the virus. 707 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: And what is interesting to me about this answer, You 708 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 1: and I have been talking about, hey, in the years ahead, 709 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: how are we going to have a reckoning over the 710 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: disastrous decision to lockdown the country. And one answer is, well, 711 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 1: the midterms in November. All of you listening have to 712 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: go out and vote. Everybody you know you have to 713 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 1: convince to go vote. There has to be significant consequences 714 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: for everyone who advocated for lockdowns, who kept your kids 715 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: out of school, who kept your kids in masks, who 716 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: didn't allow your business to be run. That was a 717 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,240 Speaker 1: failure of American public policy, the biggest failure of American 718 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: public policy in many of our lives, certainly since Vietnam. 719 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,800 Speaker 1: And I think honestly at this point it's it's worse 720 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: than Vietnam, which is meaning for most of the twentieth 721 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: century and the first century. Now, we've never made a 722 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,280 Speaker 1: worst public policy decision. But Buck, what I find interesting 723 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: about that answer is he said we'll never know for sure. 724 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 1: He's not even trying to argue in favor of lockdowns already. 725 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: He is implicitly acknowledging that they didn't make sense when 726 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: he is the foremost proponent of lockdowns. And what I 727 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: found so significant about that, Clipbuck, is he's not even 728 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: trying to argue that we had to do it anymore, 729 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: which is the first step towards what is eventually going 730 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: to happen. When I was been predicting, I know, we've 731 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: been talking about this. The first thing that happens is 732 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: people who were the biggest proponent of lockdowns start to say, well, 733 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: we'll never really know whether it was the right choice. 734 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: When you stop arguing it was the right choice, you 735 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: are implicitly acknowledging it was the wrong choice. And you're 736 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 1: trying to jump off jump off the lockdown Trent, And 737 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: the reason they do that is to create the distance 738 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: from it. So then the switch is it was a consensus. 739 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: I didn't push that, it was a conversation. It was 740 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: the commisial responsibility is taken away as the next step, 741 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 1: and you say, well, we couldn't we we had so 742 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: much uncertainty, we had no other options. And then eventually 743 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: we will cycle too. We got it all wrong, but 744 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how long it's going to take us 745 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 1: to get there. But this is significant. There's no defense 746 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: of lockdowns anymore. It's a committee of one making these 747 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: decisions at the NIH focused So you know, anybody who's 748 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: worked over there, anybody who actually has any insider access, 749 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: will tell you whatever Fauci decided, they all just nodded 750 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: their heads. Nobody was gonna Nobody was going to cross 751 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: him because he was on the speed dial of every 752 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: cable channel except for one in America. And we all 753 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: know why. So it wasn't it wasn't as collective. This 754 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: guy to do his part for the Democrat apparatus, pushed 755 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: us into these disastrous policies and then allowed so and 756 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: then call for social media to shut down debative and 757 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 1: where this this fight is not over, and we will 758 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: come back to this. We'll get into this morning big 759 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: new buck Wall Street Journal, Breaking News US, and we'll 760 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: talk about this when we come back, because it's going 761 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: to be significant. The Biden administration is officially lifting Title 762 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: forty two at the border, Oh blues has broken Wall 763 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: Street Journal pandemic Era policy will be ended on May 764 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: twenty third. So the border, to the extent it's not 765 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: already open, it's about to be getting ready free rain. 766 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: Anybody can come through lawlessness and mayhem at the southern border, 767 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 1: and the Biden administration, oh my, we're gonna we'll dive 768 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: into this. Stay with us. The words written by our 769 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: nation's founders about the value of our personal freedoms have 770 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: certainly stood the test of time. No wonder those words 771 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: have been carefully curated all these years through generations of Americans. 772 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: They resonate with us expressions of liberty and personal choice. 773 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 1: We experience it today differently than they did, what with 774 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: mask mandates, big tech censorship, and a constantly growing government. 775 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: We take on each of these adversities fighting back in 776 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: the proper ways. The liberal resto adversity is always to 777 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: strike down individual liberty and implement more government. So we 778 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 1: joined AMAC, the Association of Mature American Citizens. AMAC has 779 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: worked tirelessly to push back against the left. You can 780 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: tell that AMAC vows to remain steadfast through the midterms 781 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 1: and beyond. AMAK also offers members exclusive benefits that save 782 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: you money, a great magazine, and most importantly, a strong 783 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 1: conservative voice on Capitol Hill. Stand with AMAC and US 784 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: by joining today at AMAC dot us slash freedom. That's 785 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:45,240 Speaker 1: am AC dot us slash freedom. Join AMAC today, Welcome 786 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: back into Clay in Buck Closing up the shop today, man. 787 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 1: Parting is such sweet sorrow, folks, but we will be 788 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: with you tomorrow. We certainly look forward to that. If 789 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: you missed any part of what we're talking about here, 790 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 1: please go back to the podcast of the Clay and 791 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: Buck Show. I heeart app a great place to get it, 792 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 1: can download it free, listen to all kinds of stuff there, 793 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: music and and other things. So please do check out 794 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: the iHeart app. And I want to know we just 795 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 1: had We just had Stephen Colbert call for the slap 796 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 1: exception for a journalist Doocy because remember, the Libs don't 797 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,879 Speaker 1: want anybody to ask real questions of Biden. They don't 798 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: want this, This bothers them. They pretend they want journalism, 799 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,800 Speaker 1: they actually don't want journalism. Democrats don't want that. And 800 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 1: then there was this which I think people were saying 801 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 1: felt almost like John Stewart. Now. Now, John Stewart has 802 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: has been a propagandist for the left for a very 803 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: long time. I mean, he is a huge lib and 804 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,720 Speaker 1: it really kind of created an art form, or built 805 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: this art form of comedy political commentary as a form 806 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: of propaganda where you don't have to really answer for 807 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,280 Speaker 1: what you say because ha haha, man, I'm just making jokes. 808 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,919 Speaker 1: It's puppets on this show before I come on the air, 809 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 1: you know, because he had the crank Ganker Show. Whatever's 810 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: that's the way that he was doing things for a 811 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,800 Speaker 1: long time, and now he's kind of back, I guess 812 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: with an apple plush. Did you see some of this 813 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: Clay the apple plus saw the clips. I don't know 814 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 1: how to It's getting to the point now, Buck where 815 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: I really feel like an old man. I can't sometimes 816 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: find shows anymore, right, Like I've got I feel like 817 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: we've got every different service we're signed up for, but 818 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: there's so many different places I can't even find things. 819 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: So I don't even know how to find the John 820 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 1: Stewart Show. But I've seen the clips. Here's what he 821 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 1: says about, well, you know this is the there's a whole. 822 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,760 Speaker 1: The problem with white people is, of course John Stewart's 823 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,839 Speaker 1: white there, but the problem with which plenty of white 824 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: liberals love to do this whole I'm fighting against white 825 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: supremacy thing. It's virtue signaling. It's pathetic, that's what they do. 826 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: But here you go John Stewart showing how wokeness doesn't 827 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 1: even really make sense. And after you're a multi millionaire 828 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: benefiting from the system, tens of millions of dollars paid 829 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 1: to be a democrat at chill, you go on this 830 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 1: show now and say the following playclib nine. I think 831 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: the conversation is then this. We have an awful history. 832 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: It's it's remnants are still to have a great history. 833 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 1: Say it again. But you also have a great history. 834 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: But I think you're minimizing it. You're suggesting that cooling 835 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 1: today white supremacy. You are minimizing actual white supremacy. You 836 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 1: have an incredible diversity to get them all Americans. I 837 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 1: disagree that you're generalizing all white people. The systems that 838 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: were racists that were put in place. That systems, yes, 839 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 1: the systems that were put in place, I'd like you 840 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 1: to explain exactly what they are. Well, I thought I 841 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 1: explained it earlier about the GI bill and about what 842 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: the new deal. That's one thing I want to know 843 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 1: about these systems. I just explained it housing, That's one. 844 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 1: And I agree that Andrew, you're not living on the 845 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: same planet we are. Honestly, I don't think you are. 846 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: If you are not living, I think you are not 847 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 1: living in the planet most Americans alve. I mean Andrew Sullivan, 848 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: of course, I think is speaking sense here. This whole, 849 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:17,240 Speaker 1: this obsession with talking about how white supremacist America is today, 850 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 1: it never actually sustains itself as an argument when it's 851 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: subjected to any criticism. And then you do what John 852 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 1: Stewart does. You start cursing, and oh, you just don't 853 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: You just don't want to have a conversation. You don't 854 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: want to have a conversation about racism. The number one 855 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: response that I would have for anybody out there that 856 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 1: finds themselves in these conversations like John Stewart, you know 857 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 1: where there is a white liberal that wants to tell 858 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 1: you that America is an awful place and rooted in 859 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 1: white supremacy, just say what is true. America does not 860 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: have a perfect history. No person or entity has a 861 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 1: perfect history. Right, Let's be clear, but if America was 862 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 1: a fundamentally white supremacist nation today, how do Asian men 863 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,839 Speaker 1: make more money than anybody else in the country. This 864 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,360 Speaker 1: would be a huge failure of white supremacy, right, that 865 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: we would allow Asian minorities men to arrive in this 866 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: country and earn more than anyone else, any other ethnic group, 867 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 1: which is true, And there isn't a response, right, they 868 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 1: don't have a response because that is tangible evidence of 869 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: the fact that America is not a white supremacist country 870 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: because Asian people, Asian men in particular, in this modern era, 871 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,280 Speaker 1: are more successful economically than any group of people in America. 872 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:37,280 Speaker 1: Clay A Nigerian immigrants to America make more per capita 873 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 1: than white Americans born in this country Nigerian immigrants. So again, 874 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 1: a fascinating failure of the quote white supremacist system that 875 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,479 Speaker 1: we're all supposed to be living in all the time. 876 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 1: But this has become really a religious obsession for the left. 877 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this is their their worldview is that we 878 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: were all soaked in this country in this constant white 879 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 1: supremacy and it's something we're gonna have to continue to 880 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: dissect and pull apart and address, because well, what is 881 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: the alternative. We're all supposed to sit here and you're 882 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 1: supposed to apologize, apologize to the omen for what I 883 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 1: think the alternative is what they're trying to create. I 884 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: really believe this is a system whereby you destroy the 885 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:25,240 Speaker 1: entire foundation of America. The Constitution is not legitimate because 886 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 1: there were white supremacists, there were slave owners who wrote it, 887 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 1: the Declaration of Independence, all of it, the foundational document 888 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 1: documents of our country are in their view, so stained 889 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 1: by historical neglect and error as it pertains to race, 890 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,399 Speaker 1: that they shouldn't exist anymore. They want to destroy the 891 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 1: foundation of this country. I really do believe that's the 892 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: essence of what they're attempting. And we want to defend 893 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: the foundation and the greatness of this country and save 894 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: the country as much as possible, and all of you 895 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 1: listening are helping us.