1 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: All right, it's time for B a q A B 2 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: a q A. I can't believe I'm doing it. I 3 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: feel embarrassed. Hello a q a Q. 4 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: I'll back you up. 5 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: Thank you for that, Thank you for that. We have 6 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: Delian Vados from sleighing the stock Market and Delian the 7 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: Money Coach joining us on B, a Q and A 8 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: this week. Delian, thank you so much for sticking around 9 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: and taking some questions from our BA fam. 10 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: Yes, let's hear them all right. 11 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: And just a reminder, if you guys want to ask 12 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: us a question, you can go to our ig send 13 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: us a d M. We're at Brand Ambition Podcast on 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: i G or hit us up on our email Brand 15 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com. All right, let's get 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: to We have a couple of juicy questions. The first one, 17 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: I think Delian and I both feel deep in our 18 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: our our hearts comes from an anonymous listener who says, 19 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: I really need your help. I can't seem to stop 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: impulse buying. I'm shopping on Amazon multiple times a week. 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm always checking out with PayPal, which has my AMEX 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: linked to it, and my credit card is on food 23 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: apps like Panera and Starbucks. I feel like I always 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: have access to cash. Every month I'm accumulating like seven 25 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: hundred to nine hundred dollars in credit card debt and 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: pay it off, only to end up in more debt 27 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: the next month. I just want to save my money 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: and buy a house or invest. Thank you for reading 29 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: this and helping me out. Oh man, this was me 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: in the of the pandemic Amazon one click shopping. Are 31 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: you kidding me? There's a reason I feel like it easy. 32 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: So what do you have to say to this listener this, 33 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: dear dear impulse buying. 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: First of all, don't beat yourself up because the marketing 35 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: machine is very real and it's very powerful. So you 36 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: are not, like, you know, a failure or there's not 37 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: something wrong with you because you can't just seem to 38 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: resist the ads because they are powerful. And I totally 39 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: get that. I used to do this too when I 40 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 2: had insomnia. I had terrible insomnia, and I would wake 41 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: up in the middle of the night, and just like you, 42 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: all of my credit cards were saved to my phone, 43 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: so it was very very easy to shop while I was, 44 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 2: you know, unable to sleep, and then packages would arrive 45 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: in my house and I didn't even remember what I ordered. 46 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: It was, you know, a problem that was spiraling out 47 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 2: of control, and the only way that I was able 48 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: to solve that is by taking the credit cards off 49 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: the phone. I had to stop. And also I had 50 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 2: to get new card numbers because it was so bad 51 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: to the point where I had memorized my credit card numbers. Okay, 52 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: when you know your sixteen digit credit card number, that's 53 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: how you know you may have a problem. So I 54 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: had to get new cards, take the numbers off my phone. 55 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: And then also I had to ask myself what is 56 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 2: triggering this? It's just like anything else, like food or 57 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: anything else that you're like overdoing. What is triggering this? 58 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: What is the emotion that's happening here? What am I 59 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: feeling before and after I make these purchases? And you 60 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: really have to have that moment of truth with yourself 61 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: and be like, am I trying to fill a void? 62 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: Am I bored? Am I sad? Is this how I 63 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: celebrate happiness? Is this how I celebrate anything? And really 64 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: start understanding what's the underlying emotion that's driving this behavior. 65 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: Because I can teach you how to make a spreadsheet 66 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: all day long, I can talk to you about the 67 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: you know, the opportunity cost of like the money that 68 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 2: you're wasting that should be invested in the stock market. 69 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 2: I can talk your head off about that all day long, 70 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: but that's not going to get down to like the 71 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: emotional trigger that's causing this behavior. 72 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all about the mindset too, and it's exactly 73 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: that trigger, and it's about what is your So for me, 74 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: being an I suffer from impulse control when it comes 75 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: to eating. I have my whole life, and for me 76 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: it's about, you know, am I setting myself up to 77 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: be successful? Or am I setting myself up to make 78 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: choices that I just beat myself up for later, you 79 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean? And for me, it looks like 80 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: maybe don't purchase the foods that you know will trigger, 81 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: or maybe make sure that you're getting good night's sleep 82 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: so that you're not tired, cranky and upset later and 83 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: taking care. Have a nap, you know what I'm saying. 84 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: Have a nap so that you're not we talked about 85 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: naps in last week, But have a nap so you're 86 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: not so haggard and tired that you you know, you 87 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: try to cure yourself with like iced coffee with tons 88 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: of sugar in it. I love your tip to remove 89 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: your credit cards. And I want to address the part 90 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: of this question where they're asking about, you know, I 91 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: just want to save my money and buy a house 92 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: or invest So here's my trick for that. I don't look. 93 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't I personally, because I struggle with this too. 94 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't focus so much on the things that you're 95 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: buying that are taking you away from those goals. What I 96 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: think you should do is treat your investing and your 97 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: saving almost like a credit card bill. So make it 98 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: a bill that you pay to yourself and automate that 99 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: ish Like that is the way that I have, you know, 100 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: gotten to where I have financially by by not worrying 101 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: so much about how much I'm spending on groceries each 102 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: month or eating out on you know, door Dash or 103 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: Uber eats or whatever. But how just making sure that 104 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: I automatically I'm saving and investing each month, so that 105 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: even if I have a slip up, a slip up 106 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: quote unquote here and there, I can still rest easy 107 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: knowing I'm still in the market, like I'm still investing 108 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: automatically because I know myself enough to know if I 109 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: have to manually do it, I may not make the 110 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: wisest choice if it comes between me or you know, 111 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: that special the new wardrobe that I'm looking for, the 112 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: new gadget or whatnot. So can you get to a 113 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: place where you have paid off your credit card debt? Okay, 114 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: keep it, delete your credit cards from Amazon and all 115 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: these apps, keep it, you know, get all your plastic off, 116 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: like Delian has said, and then let a month go 117 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: by where you actually don't have credit cards, and then 118 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: set up some automatic payments and start paying yourself automatically, 119 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: and maybe with the knowledge that the money ain't going 120 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: to be there for your credit card, that will help 121 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: you think twice before you actually, you know, make those 122 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: impulse purchases. 123 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want people to think about credit cards. It's 124 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: not anything evil. First of all, it's there's no morality 125 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 2: tied to credit cards. It's a tool, just like Yeah, 126 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: it's just a tool, just like anything else. But it's 127 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: also a privilege to be able to use a credit card. 128 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: And if you're abusing the privilege, then let's take it 129 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: away for a minute, let's reassess the system, and then 130 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 2: we can always reintroduce credit cards down the line. It 131 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that you can never ever use a credit 132 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 2: card again. I'm a huge fan of using credit cards, 133 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: but I also pay it off one hundred percent and 134 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: I don't let my credit cards derail me from my 135 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: other goals. 136 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And also, are you guilty I have? I 137 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 1: don't know if I shouldn't say guilty, but I am. 138 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: I am. I like to when I was a kid, 139 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: we would go window shopping, like literally, we'd just like 140 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: go to some major you know, downtown Atlanta or whatever, 141 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: to the mall and just look in stores, try things on, 142 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: not buy anything. And for me, I still get kind 143 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: of like the endorphin release when I go on to 144 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, when my favorite brand's websites and just fill 145 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: up a cart. I fill up a cart and I'm like, wow, 146 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: that's two thousand dollars. I'll come back to it. If 147 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: I really want it, I'll come back to it. I 148 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: have so many abandoned online shopping carts, and that's that's 149 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: as far as I let it go. Late night when 150 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: I wake up at like two and Instagram serves me 151 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: an ad for some like sleep, some loungewear that I've 152 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: been wanting to try. Damn those ads, so you said it. 153 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: The marketing. They are so powerful, They're so good and terrible. 154 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: But that's what I like to do. I put like 155 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: a seventy two hour time on it. If I put 156 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: it in my cart, and in seventy two hours, I 157 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: still care and I go back to it. Most of 158 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: the time I forget. I can't even tell you what 159 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: I was shopping on at two am this year, I 160 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: would say twenty four hours. 161 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: Honestly, yeah, your hours, you're going to completely forget. 162 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: It exactly, and that I think I need it, And 163 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: that has helped me a lot to just not just 164 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: put it in your cart and come back to it later. 165 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: But I love you for asking this question, for admitting it, 166 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: because I know, I know for a fact you are 167 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: not alone at all. Okay, thank you for your question. 168 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: Let's go to number two, And just as a reminder, 169 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: me and Delianne, we're your financial girlfriends today. We are 170 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: not your financial advisors or financial advisors in general. So 171 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: take what we're saying with a huge handful of salt, 172 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: as I like to say, not just a grain, a 173 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: hole handful, and just know that it's hard for us 174 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: to give specific advice because we don't know every little 175 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: detail about you. So with that caveat, and as Delian says, like, 176 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: don't sue us, or if you do, direct those to Delian, 177 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: she's the attorneyer like not me, not me, all right? 178 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: Number two This is from a listener named Laura, who says, 179 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: I've worked in nonprofits for years and recently started a 180 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: government job with the pension. I opted into the full 181 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: pension plan, and I have plans to stay in government 182 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: work until I retire at fifty five, which is in 183 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: twenty seven years, assuming the world doesn't catch fire by then. 184 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: I mean, isn't it literally catching fire right now? Though 185 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: I should have about seventy to one hundred K a 186 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: year from my pension, I'm currently contributing fifty dollars a 187 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: month to hoard my wroth IRA, but I plan to 188 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: start maxing it out for twenty twenty two and beyond. 189 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: I also plan to contribute to my deferred compensation plan 190 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, which is like my government's four 191 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: to one K. I should be out of credit card 192 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: debt by December twenty twenty one, thank god, and have 193 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: my car set to be paid off by twenty twenty three. 194 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: My question is am I doing too much with the 195 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: retirement money? I want to lean into enjoying my money now, 196 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: but I want to be mindful about my future as well. 197 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: I would love your thoughts. So this was a beefy one. 198 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: Let me back up and reread a couple things. So 199 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: what she's asking is, she's got fifty dollars a month 200 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: going into a wroth. She's gonna start maxing that out. 201 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: She's also putting money into her four oh one k 202 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: through her government job. She's going to pay off for 203 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: credit card debt and have her car paid off by 204 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: bite in two years from now. 205 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: But is she a pension? 206 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: She's a pension coming her way? Is she over saving 207 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: for retirement? Is there such a thing? Delianne? Like, what 208 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: do you think there. 209 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: Is such a thing. I'm not gonna say there isn't 210 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: such a thing. But I when people ask this question, 211 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: it usually means that they don't have a goal in mind. 212 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 2: Am I doing too much? Am I doing enough? If 213 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: you don't know if you're on track, that means that 214 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: you don't you haven't decided what the track is, like, 215 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: where are you heading? And so This is where people 216 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: tend to spend more money than they should because they 217 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 2: don't have any direction for where their money should be going. Right, 218 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: So if you think you're investing enough, they're like, oh, 219 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: I can spend more. But if you're not investing enough, 220 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 2: then you're going to fall short at the end. Now, 221 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: I understand this person has a pension, which is a 222 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 2: unique situation. Not most people don't have access to a pension. 223 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: So should you still be investing, you know, quote unquote 224 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 2: aggressively and if you have a pension, yes, because like you, 225 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: she said, she's twenty seven years away from collecting on 226 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 2: that pension. A lot can change in twenty seven years, right, 227 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: you could change jobs, the pension. Something could happen. Pensions 228 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: are not one hundred percent guaranteed. I know a lot 229 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: of people think they are, but some of them sometimes 230 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: are mismanaged and you don't get the payout that you 231 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: thought you were going to get, So you cannot count 232 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: on it a thousand hundred percent. You know, you have 233 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: to have a backup plan. So I'm happy to hear 234 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: that you're investing in other vehicles as well. And also, 235 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: what if you decide that you want to retire early, right, 236 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: then the pension is not going to be an option 237 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: for you because you have to stay. So I'm glad 238 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: to hear that you're investing in these other accounts. Like 239 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: I said, if you don't know if you're investing enough, 240 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 2: then it means that you don't know what your financial 241 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: independence number is. So that's the first thing you need 242 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: to do. The formula for financial independence is your annual 243 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: expenses times twenty five. That is a guideline. It is 244 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: not like live and die by it, but is a 245 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 2: guideline for you to start. It's like a back of 246 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: the napkin type of number. But start with that number 247 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: and then work your way backwards. Okay, well, let's say 248 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 2: you know it was your annual expenses are forty thousand 249 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: dollars a year. Forty times twenty five is going to 250 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: be a million, So you need a million dollars invested. 251 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: Now you want to work backwards, well, how much I 252 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: need to invest per month to reach a million dollars 253 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 2: by x age? Because it's also about how fast you 254 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 2: want to hit that number. Some people don't care. They're like, oh, 255 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: I can wait twenty twenty five years to get to it, 256 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: and some people are like, no, I want to hit 257 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 2: it in like ten years. Obviously those are gonna that's 258 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: gonna look very different, right, depending on what you want. 259 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: So I would say, find out what your financial independence 260 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 2: number is, work your way backwards, and then you'll have 261 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: a better sense of you know, how fast do I 262 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: need to be moving here with my investing? Yeah? 263 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: I think that's really wise. And I have also found 264 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: myself in the exact position you're in, Laura, and I've 265 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: got about a decade on you. So don't feel bad 266 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: at all. You're about if I'm doing my own math. 267 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: She says she's going to retire at fifty five, which 268 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: is in twenty seven years. So she's in her early 269 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: twenty wait, early thirty. 270 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: I think she's like my age. 271 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, yeah, forty five. 272 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: No, she's thirty five, she's like thirties, early thirties. 273 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: We're both so bad at I know this. 274 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: Is why I went to law school. 275 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: No, she's twenty eight. She's twenty Eight's. 276 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: Exactly when I started at twenty eight. 277 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: Yeah you so you yeah, amazing. Now listen, here's my thought. 278 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: It is now that we've got the really difficult question, 279 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: how old are you out of the way. My thing is, 280 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: it sounds like you're like you're not enjoying your money, 281 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: or maybe you don't have enough left over after all 282 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: these goals are met to feel like you're enjoying it. 283 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: So I would always carve out some of your budget. 284 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: And it sounds like you're doing really well financially. You're 285 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: going to pay off your car, and you have some 286 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: credit card debt, You're going to pay that off. You know, 287 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: how are you spending money on things that you enjoy 288 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: and pouring into yourself and do it really mindfully? You 289 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: can't do all the things because you still have your 290 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: goals in mind, right, But is there one thing a 291 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: month or a week that will bring you joy that 292 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: makes you feel like I am enjoying the fruits of 293 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: my labor now because yo, lo, like you only live once, right. 294 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: My next thing is, you're only twenty eight, and I 295 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: like to be really aggressive younger. You have time on 296 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: your side now if you just double down and remember that, 297 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: like like you, I don't know anything else, like do 298 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: you have a family, you have kids? You know, your 299 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: relationship whatever, what your future is going to be like? 300 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: But I was never it's so much easier when you 301 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: can only think about yourself. I cannot tell you, Like, 302 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: delian look how look at the glow she has, look 303 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: at that she got a dog. You're single, you know, 304 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: just like it's a it's a choice, Delianne, that you 305 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: made and I did not, and you know say I 306 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: regret it, but like you know what I mean, like 307 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: you look really well rested, like but listen, like there 308 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: is oh and who's calling me? 309 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: Now? 310 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: It's my speaking of my husband? No, but when you 311 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: were just making decisions for yourself, it is that is 312 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: the time. I feel like you really want to double 313 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: down and be excited to be able to pour so 314 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: much money into your into your investments, and you're doing 315 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: so many amazing things and you're so far ahead. I 316 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: feel like of a lot of people your age that 317 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: why not you know, capitalize on this on this time now? Wow? 318 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: And who knows? I know you seem pretty dead set 319 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: on working for the government and another twenty seven years, 320 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: But that's a long time, Laura. You don't know what 321 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: could happen. Maybe if you start investing now, you may 322 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: not have to go the full like forget the pension. 323 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: Can I say that? Like, maybe you could make more 324 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: than the pension happening to my husband right now because 325 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: he works for the government and he loves to say 326 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: he has a pension, And I'm like, maybe you could 327 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: quit and then you would have even more than a pension. 328 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: But anyway, that's for our financial therapist, a couple therapists 329 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: to work through. But I would just say that, you know, 330 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: I think when you're young, in your twenties, you know, 331 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: living for yourself and only yourself, that is when you 332 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: really would double down. So I think you're doing, you know, 333 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: totally the right thing, but just you know, whatever, find 334 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: the thing that you value that brings you joy and 335 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: invest in that and consider that investment in your own 336 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: mental health and your happiness because that matters too. 337 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I mean, I think investing is about 338 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: extending a life that you already love so much, building 339 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: the life that you love, And the whole point of 340 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: investing is like, I want to maintain this lifestyle for 341 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: as long as possible. That's what people don't realize. They're like, oh, 342 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: why do I want to save and invest so that 343 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: I can enjoy my life when I'm sixtied? No, no, no, 344 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 2: you're thinking about it the wrong way. It's build the 345 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: life that you love right now today, and then you 346 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: want to continue that so you don't have to downgrade 347 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: when you hit your sixties and seventies, right, That is 348 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: not a cute look to have to budget and cut 349 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: coupons when you're that old, when you're really going to 350 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: need all the comforts in life. Right, Like in your 351 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: twenties and your thirties, you can rough some things, but 352 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: when you're in your sixties, you don't want to be 353 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: roughing it in your sixties and seventies. That is not cute. 354 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: You want the most expensive mattress, they say, yes, you 355 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: want the most comfiest shoes, Like you want first class 356 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: baby on the flight they tell you. I'm like, what 357 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: are the you've mentioned on If you haven't listened to 358 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: Wednesday show where I talked to Delian more in depth 359 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: about her story. I think on that show you talk 360 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: about how you you know, you do spend time on 361 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: yourself and doing things that you love, like traveling, But 362 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: what are some things that you know really bring you 363 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: joy that you say that you know have the most 364 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: value for you. As far as when you're gonna spend 365 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: money on yourself, what is that going toward. 366 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: Oh I love, I love you know. My love language 367 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: is like quality time, so anything having to do with 368 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 2: like live events, making new memories in person. So obviously 369 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: traveling is part of that. But I love listening to music, live, 370 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: comedy shows live. When I lived in New York City, 371 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: I was going to a Broadway show like at least 372 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 2: once a month. So I like to take advantage of 373 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: the activities in my I am a tourist in my 374 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: own city, right, so I will do like the dorky 375 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 2: little sailboat tours like around the Harbor. I will do 376 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 2: all those things, you know, because I've I like to 377 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: enjoy my city as a tourist. Would I'm like, I 378 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: pay a lot of money to live here. I want 379 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: to I want to enjoy it. So that and then 380 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: on a smaller scale, is I love leggings. I'm sorry, 381 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: I do. 382 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: I love mentioned that as if it was an entire 383 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: category earlier. Bringing that up again, You're like, I buy leggings. 384 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: It's a whole thing. It is something that is just 385 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: dear to my heart. I used to have a fitness 386 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 2: account on Instagram, so I used to be a spinning instructor. 387 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if you knew that, but. 388 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: So wow, Okay, that's peloton. Yes, all right, so you 389 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: should get on me for how my peloton right now 390 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: if you can just see it it is. 391 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 2: It is called dust. 392 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: It's home to my moon pod, which is my We 393 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: had no wedding because of Hurricane Ida Delian. I don't 394 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: know what to tell you, Okay, that's why. Then, okay, 395 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: I had to save her, so she was she had 396 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: to reach higher ground. 397 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 2: Oh. 398 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: I go on a lot of walks in the summer. 399 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't peloton as much in the basement because I 400 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: just want to be outdoors. But let me give me 401 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: a month. When it gets really you know how New 402 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: York is, when it gets like nasty, then I very 403 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: on the peloton. 404 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: Yes, it's almost embarrassing that I have one in San 405 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,959 Speaker 2: Diego because it's so stunning here to be outside. But 406 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: I love having it right here in my house. 407 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right, Well, thank you Laura for your question, 408 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: and listen, I think you have You're on such a 409 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: good right track. I think you maybe just needed us 410 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: to tell you how fabulous you are and to treat 411 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: yourself once again, and. 412 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 2: We're happy to do that. 413 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 1: That's so happy, Thank y'all for your questions. Again, hit 414 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: us up Brand Ambition Podcast on ig or Brand Ambition 415 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: Podcast at gmail dot com. And once again go check 416 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: out our girl, Delian Delian the Money Coach on ig 417 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: I Believe. Check the show notes for all of her 418 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: social handles and you find out how you can enroll 419 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: in her Sley the stock Market Course. And thank you 420 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: again Delian for joining us. 421 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, this was so fun.