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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Battleground Podcast. You'll pay for all and

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Speaker 1: exclusive interviews with some of your favorite wrestlers.

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Speaker 2: Abound stop being.

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Speaker 3: Once tip you guys, welcome back into I Heardy's official

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Speaker 3: wrestling podcast, The Battleground Podcast. It is Battle from lone

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Speaker 3: start in ninety two to five Dallas for worst Classic

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Speaker 3: Rock and ninety seven point one the Eagle and of

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Speaker 3: course ae W has taken over Dallas all this week

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Speaker 3: because you got it this weekend all in Texas and

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a fun time. And speaking of fun times,

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Speaker 3: a guy who's been on our show before give it

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Speaker 3: up for Speedball.

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Speaker 2: Mike Bailey joined the show again Speedball. How are you doing, sir?

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Speaker 2: Just gave myself a hand. Yeah you are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You're adapting to American culture very very quickly.

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Speaker 1: It looks like.

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Speaker 3: Let's kind of just jump right into it. Big things happening,

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Speaker 3: a lot of people talking about it. Jet Speed quickly

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Speaker 3: became a standout tag team in aew walk us through this.

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Speaker 3: How did the partnership with Kevin and I come about?

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Speaker 3: What makes the chemistry click so well? And whose idea

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Speaker 3: was it to pair you guys together?

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Speaker 2: You know, just like all of the best things in

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Speaker 1: It just kind of happened.

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Speaker 2: We ended up in a tag team together, and the

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Speaker 2: chemistry was just there. There were immediate sparks. He and

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Speaker 2: I had wrestled before, we'd had some great matches in

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Speaker 2: the past, and we'd never been on the same game before.

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Speaker 2: And it turns out, you know, it just works really well,

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Speaker 2: and so we When something like that happens, you just

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Speaker 2: have to take it and run with it. But I

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Speaker 2: feel like beyond that, Kevin and I have a very

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Speaker 2: similar mindset when it comes to professional wrestling. If you

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Speaker 2: know my story, I've spent my career traveling world wrestling

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Speaker 2: is in as many different countries as possible, trying to

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Speaker 2: take the best things out of every single style of

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Speaker 2: professional wrestling. And Kevin Knight, even though he started wrestling

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Speaker 2: a long time after I did, still has that same

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Speaker 2: parkor of He started in America and quickly made his

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Speaker 2: way to New Japan for wrestling where he really made

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Speaker 2: his name. And I feel like he's wrestled in Mexico

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Speaker 2: and in a bunch of other countries a long way,

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Speaker 2: and just like myself, has really forged this international style

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Speaker 2: and I think that's what really sets Jet Speed Apartment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know there's this kind of trope in

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Speaker 4: wrestling of the thrown together tag team will there coexist

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Speaker 4: and you know all that kind of stuff, But like

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Speaker 4: this one seems legit, like it it seems like it

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Speaker 4: could be a real thing, Like you guys could be

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Speaker 4: a tag team moving forward. I mean, how does this

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Speaker 4: how do you think this is a little bit different

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Speaker 4: than that perception of other kind of thrown together tag teams.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the idea of a thrown together tag

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Speaker 2: team is absolutely ridiculous. Because wrestlers have common objectives, they

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Speaker 2: end up being put together. I mean, it's a very

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Speaker 2: it's a very American notion to look at it and

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Speaker 1: In Japan, if you look at all the.

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Speaker 2: The major promotions there, they have a lot of wrestlers

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Speaker 2: of them. And a long time tag de partner of mine,

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Speaker 2: Mao from DDT We're in Moonlight Expressed together for many years,

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Speaker 2: won several tag team championships together. That's how it started

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Speaker 2: breaking a throw together full on four and then we

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Speaker 2: did a very very cool dive together. You know we

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Speaker 2: of DDT who was in the match, was like, Oh, this,

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Speaker 2: this thrown together tag team works super well. Right. I

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Speaker 2: feel like I don't know of many like great tag

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Speaker 2: or Brothers who were literally thrown together at birth, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: I feel like every great tag team was thrown together

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Speaker 2: at some point, right, and if you just made it

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Speaker 2: how else did you create tag teams?

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Speaker 1: Been by throwing it exactly right? Right right? Good boy?

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Speaker 3: As you know, AW is headlining Texas this week, all

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Speaker 3: in Texas, and a lot of things that are happening

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Speaker 3: with this big show that's going down. You got the

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Speaker 3: match with the EVPs as one of the rising stars

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Speaker 3: of ae W. Do you think this recent bump in

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Speaker 2: I think it's very hard for me to tell, right,

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Speaker 2: because I've only been in the company for just over

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Speaker 2: all I've seen from AW is a fantastic lockering all

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Speaker 2: of building those relationships in between the wrestlers in front

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Speaker 2: of the audio. And that's been amazing to see. I

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Speaker 2: can't speak for whether it was like that before or

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Speaker 2: whether it was that that is a reason for the success.

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Speaker 2: I mean, as far as I'm concerned, I'm in the

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Speaker 2: four months I've been here, I have seen a rise

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Speaker 2: I've seen the audiences get more and more into it,

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Speaker 2: more and more in the As far as I'm concerned,

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Speaker 2: it's because of me. It's because it's people like gents.

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Speaker 2: There are correlations, Yeah, there are correlations, right, correlation does

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Speaker 2: other things. And I mean that's that's probably you know,

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Speaker 2: correct that everything everyone in the company working together so

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Speaker 2: well is really the reason behind the reasons the recent success.

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Speaker 2: But I I can't really speak to a time before.

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Speaker 4: Speed right, I have a question I want to ask

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Speaker 4: before I forget. So the last time we we had

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Speaker 4: youhn it was before you're the three way with kiney Omega.

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Speaker 4: Can you describe to us what it feels like getting

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Speaker 4: a v trigger to the side of your head and

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Speaker 4: getting thrown out of the ring, Like how how do

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Speaker 4: you how do you get ready for that move when

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Speaker 4: he's just coming at you full steam with that that

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you've ever been punched in the face,

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Speaker 2: right my regular shuman being, imagine that, except it's one

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Speaker 2: of the world's best athletes with its knee, with his

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Speaker 2: knee coming on the side, face and asigned from just

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Speaker 2: the the hurt of the move itself, you can feel

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Speaker 4: And it's got to be extra painful coming from a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a part of me that feels betrayed.

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Speaker 2: There's a part of me that feels like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Could have given more.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I take all my losses to heart.

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Speaker 2: They are all learning experiences and always look how can

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Speaker 2: I get better from them? And that was my first

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Speaker 2: time ever challenging for an a W championship. The next

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Speaker 2: all in challenging for the Tag Clue Championships.

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Speaker 1: Third time, I'm challenging for a title.

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Speaker 2: You're in a W and I'm not gonna let it

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Speaker 3: And we're gonna put it out in the universe because

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Speaker 3: after Saturday there's gonna be a and new ae W

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Speaker 3: Tag Team Champions Jets Speed.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna put that out in the universe because

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Speaker 2: with those kind of record, you can ask about it.

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Speaker 2: We've got a good track.

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Speaker 1: It does sound really good.

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Speaker 3: It does say Mike Bailey Tag Team Champion, that does

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Speaker 3: have a good bring to it. Sorry, MJF, Bobby and

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Speaker 3: Shelton and MVP. We're throwing that out the window. It's

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Speaker 3: gonna be this weekend new Tag Team Champions. Now, you

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Speaker 3: know what we mentioned Omega and Canadian Wrestling, and you

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Speaker 3: know a lot of fans have kind of joked about

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Speaker 3: ae W has too many Canadians and tops spots with

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Speaker 3: you Oga, Christian Jericho, Josh Alexander Oakland, what's your take

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Speaker 3: on the Canadian invasion of American Wrestling.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the opposite. I don't think it's a

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Speaker 2: I think Canadians have had such a hard time breaking

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Speaker 2: The language barrier adds some extra difficulties in making your

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Speaker 2: name in American wrestling. There is, of course, a very

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Speaker 2: difficult to navigate border.

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Speaker 1: Between the US.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I think it's just right that right now

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Speaker 2: there are so many great Canadian wrestlers proving that they

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Speaker 2: belonged with the best wrestlers in.

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Speaker 1: The world in AW.

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Speaker 2: And I still think that there's a lot of work

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Speaker 2: recognizing talent from all around the world, not just Canada,

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Speaker 2: but from outside of the US. Yes, and there's lots

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Speaker 2: of world class performance that deserve to be in the

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Speaker 2: doing a fantastic job because looking at Canada, looking at

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Speaker 2: here because they are the world's best, regardless.

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Speaker 1: Of which company you're from.

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Speaker 2: And I think AW coming to Mexico, which is one

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Speaker 2: world with the richest history surrounding professional wrestlinger Lucha Libre.

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Speaker 2: They've done a great job celebrating the absolutely amazing Luca

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Speaker 2: AW I think does a better job than any other

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Speaker 2: Okada and yeah, absolutely, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Just hearing you talk, I'm like, I could just listen

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Speaker 4: to you talk. You're so articulate about all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: That's that's awesome.

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Speaker 2: So let's care a lot.

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Speaker 4: I think about a lot and you do. Yes, It's

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Speaker 4: always good to hear the passion coming back like that.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 4: So so let's get through specifics. The Saturday, you are

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Speaker 4: challenging the Hurt Syndicate as well as the Patriarchy and

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Speaker 4: a triple feat match for the AW World Tag Team Championships.

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Speaker 4: What is your strategy heading into this high stakes match,

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Speaker 4: because I mean, it's it's it's hard enough to plan

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Speaker 4: for two other people, but now you have the other

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Speaker 4: does that add to the to a match like this?

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Speaker 2: So the dynamic has changed rapidly. We've been going back

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Speaker 2: and forth with the hurt syndicon for a long time

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Speaker 2: and to throw in the Patriarchy, who like bring a

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Speaker 2: different kind of strategyans you know what I mean. I

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Speaker 2: feel like Kevin and I are new tag team. We're

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Speaker 2: both relatively new to a down and we've.

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Speaker 1: Got on the side of the hurt syndicket.

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Speaker 2: You've got MJF as well and MVP, who they will

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Speaker 2: certainly be watching around Kipsavian and shanea way will.

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Speaker 1: With the Patriarchy. So not only are we.

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Speaker 2: Not only are the odds against us, but we're literally

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Speaker 2: outnumbered in this. But I mean, Kevin and I are

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Speaker 2: both the same. We've made our careers, We've been successful

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Speaker 2: as underdogs many many years now, and the best thing

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Speaker 2: we can do.

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Speaker 1: Is just surprise people.

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Speaker 2: So it's going to be go out there, give it

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Speaker 2: everything we've got in shock the world.

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Speaker 3: And become new tag team champions after this Saturday at

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Speaker 3: A have you all in Texas?

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Speaker 4: You know, the incredible thing is that when you guys win,

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Speaker 2: That's a great thing that AW does for all of this.

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Speaker 2: You know, there are so many I think Class Bell

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Speaker 1: What's that song on your playlist?

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Speaker 3: That's a that's a pretty solid jam right there?

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Speaker 3: Well, Mike, uh again, it's an honor and privilege to

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Speaker 3: Jess be Man. It's an honor and privilege. Thank you

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Speaker 3: so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much.

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