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Speaker 2: morning to you and yours. What up? Sticks?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What up?

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Speaker 4: You're always like laid back man like you never get

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Speaker 4: as much excitement out of you.

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Speaker 3: You know what's up, y'all? What what ut BEFERRONI cowboy?

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Speaker 2: You got all the kids in town? Are you guys

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Speaker 2: all love? What's New Year's even gonna look like? I

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Speaker 2: don't know, man gett.

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Speaker 5: I want to be probably probably start as soon as

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Speaker 5: the show was over.

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Speaker 3: It probably started yesterday already started continuing into today. They

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Speaker 3: top golfed yesterday.

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Speaker 5: So my son's actually a pretty doll going good golfer man,

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Speaker 5: the younger one. So they went to golf have a

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Speaker 5: good time doing that.

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Speaker 3: Did you bring Monsy? Well?

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Speaker 5: I know she loves top golf. I know and in

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Speaker 5: Vegas too, of all places. We didn't take her yesterday. Sorry,

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Speaker 5: what's up?

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Speaker 3: Mancy? Might be we might need to retire that?

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Speaker 2: All right? So you guys want to hear John Caspary

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Speaker 2: bitch about uh about a situation that's currently going on

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Speaker 2: in college basketball. He recruited me cal party did Where

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Speaker 2: was he?

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Speaker 3: Then? You mass?

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Speaker 5: That was when he had us cambi in. Yeah, they

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Speaker 5: had that year, that magical year they practiced on our court.

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Speaker 5: He came there because his his head coach was my

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Speaker 5: head coach. His college head coach was my high school

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Speaker 5: head coach, and they were recruiting me. So they brought

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Speaker 5: the team there to practice. He came and gave us

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Speaker 5: a great speech.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, got recruited by coach cal Bob Huggins.

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Speaker 3: Who else John Thompson.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, yeah, that's what I'm talking about me.

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Speaker 5: I had a few Villanova recruited me. I had a

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Speaker 5: few few teams. You know that I just stopped growing,

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Speaker 5: that's all, you know, that was the problem. I would

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Speaker 5: have had to become a real basketball player if I

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Speaker 5: was going to play basketball. It's too short to just

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Speaker 5: use talent.

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Speaker 3: So that's wild too, because how sorry you like six

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Speaker 3: four six six four six four, it's like six y

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Speaker 3: three just under six four, right.

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Speaker 4: It's just funny though that like you're like this, yeah,

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Speaker 4: but this is the way you're saying it, Like I'd

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Speaker 4: have to become a real basketball player, which you know.

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Speaker 3: For most people like I just I don't know. I

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Speaker 5: I had a vertical I could jump. I think what

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Speaker 5: had people confused is I was getting rebounds over guys

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Speaker 5: because I could move quicker. You know, the taller they were,

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Speaker 5: the slower they were, and I beat I beat quads up,

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Speaker 5: didn't move as quick. I was like a rockman. I

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Speaker 3: The court too.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, Yeah ruined me. Basketball ruined me. Football saved me.

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Speaker 5: Basketball ruined me. It's a different level of clout when

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Speaker 5: like I was on the circus, you know, a bro.

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Speaker 5: I was on the travel circuit and that that iso

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Speaker 2: Bob Huggins showed you the row.

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Speaker 5: So hey, brouh, it's very different from football. I don't

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Speaker 5: know why, like I was considered to be way handso

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Speaker 5: But it is what it is. It's still all worked

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Speaker 2: I mean, the good news is you could probably go

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Speaker 2: based on what we've seen. So we talked about this

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Speaker 3: Yes Wow.

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Speaker 2: James Naji, who was a former NBA draft pick. He

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Speaker 2: was the thirty first overall pick. I believe in twenty

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Speaker 2: have not been thrilled about what he's going on. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's the whole things wild. You got European players that

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Speaker 2: it makes any sense. And John Calipari decided, you know what,

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Speaker 2: somebody's got to speak up. Let me be the guy.

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Speaker 6: Well, look, I don't blame coaches. You know, I've got

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Speaker 6: friends that are playing with twenty seven year olds and

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Speaker 6: they feel bad. I said, don't feel bad. We don't

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Speaker 6: have any rules. Why should you feel bad? But let

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Speaker 6: me give you this real simple. The rules bees the rules.

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Speaker 6: So if you put your name in the draft, I

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Speaker 6: don't care if you're from Russia and you stay in

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Speaker 6: the draft, you can't play college basketball. Well that's only

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Speaker 6: for American kids. What if your name is in that

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Speaker 6: that's our rule. Yeah, but that's only for American kids. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 6: Now here's the next lawsuit. Well, we don't have a

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Speaker 6: say over European players. You do if they're playing in

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Speaker 6: over high school kids. So whatever a high school kid

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Speaker 6: because there's a suit, Because what you're saying is if

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Speaker 6: he's in Europe, we don't have the same rules. Does

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Speaker 6: anybody care what this is doing for seventeen and eighteen

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Speaker 6: year old American kids? Do you know what this opportunity

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Speaker 6: has done for them and their families? There aren't gonna

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Speaker 6: be any high school kids who other than dumb people

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Speaker 6: changes that I'm gonna keep doing it.

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Speaker 3: But why would anybody else?

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Speaker 6: If you can get NBA players, G League players, guys

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Speaker 3: Do we really know their transcript? Do we have somebody

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Speaker 2: So that was John Calipari, let it be own his

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Speaker 2: late into their twenties with eligibility still remaining in the

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Speaker 2: NBA draft. Charlie Baker, the NCAA president, He responded with

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Speaker 2: a statement, on Tuesday that said, quote, the NCAA is

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Speaker 2: returning student athletes who have signed an NBA contract, including

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Speaker 2: a two way contract. Calipari was on ESPN last night

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Speaker 2: But when before it was if you are in the

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Speaker 4: And and they're saying that because of their legal expertise

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Speaker 4: the NCAA has gone, you know, up against the judicial system,

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Speaker 4: they've lost. This is an inflection point for college sports,

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Speaker 4: and it's one of the reasons like why on our

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Speaker 4: there's been this whole you know, at first you could

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Speaker 4: to really embrace that and embody that, but even allowing

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Speaker 4: that to take place was a step closer to completely

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Speaker 4: disregarding the educational component and the developmental component. And there's

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Speaker 4: elements of that that are still at play in college

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Speaker 4: it's an inflection point for college sports in general right

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Speaker 4: now because we've almost looked at trying to like, in

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Speaker 4: and what this experience means. It used to mean development,

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Speaker 4: It used to mean getting an education.

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Speaker 3: It used to mean, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, graduating with a degree, a platform, a network, and

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Speaker 4: But at some point that ends. And now we've looked

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Speaker 4: these players should be compensated, and yet we haven't had

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Speaker 4: anyone come up with a structure that allows both things

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Speaker 3: That's the tough part.

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Speaker 4: About this whole conversation is as much as we want

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Speaker 4: to make light of it and joke about it, there

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Speaker 4: is a lot of people who are impacted at the

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Speaker 4: taken away from people who already had that opportunity and

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Speaker 4: they weren't good enough. And I'll even go as far

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Speaker 4: as saying this the NCAA whimping out with how many

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Speaker 4: eligibility waivers they've granted for a lot of players who

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Speaker 4: are now playing, you know.

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Speaker 3: Six seven years of college football.

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Speaker 4: It's the same thing that same players taking up a

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Speaker 4: high school players roster spot and his opportunity to crack

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Speaker 3: But it's all because it's become big business. Now. I

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Speaker 4: I understand why it's where it is, and I'm not

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Speaker 4: like arguing for you know, student athletes not to be compensated,

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Speaker 4: but there does need to be a reckoning where someone

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Speaker 4: not a believer that the federal government is going to

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Speaker 4: do it, even though it feels like every time Charlie

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Speaker 4: Baker speaks he's begging Congress to step in and give

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Speaker 5: I think it's a it's a tremendously large conversation that

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Speaker 5: Kyler Perry opened because there are a lot of unknowns

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Speaker 5: there are, and there are a lot of different different

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Speaker 5: And that's by sport. I mean, it's it's touched into

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Speaker 5: now the gender conversation. You don't even you know, need

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Speaker 4: Let me play Devil's advocate to you, Jonas in this situation,

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Speaker 4: Like don't you go to college, if you're a student

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Speaker 2: There's influence, there's agents, there's like all of these things

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Speaker 2: There should be something to Hey, you're gonna have a

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Speaker 4: to do that because you're really talking about like the

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Speaker 4: one point one percent. It's such a small population that

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Speaker 4: falls in this category.

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Speaker 3: I mean even across that.

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Speaker 5: Will go pro, that will go pro, sure, But but

444
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Speaker 5: the idea of understanding the business of sport, that's everybody.

445
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Speaker 5: That's that's all, and they should have the opportunity to

446
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Speaker 5: be educated that way. Somebody that that played with you

447
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Speaker 5: on the football team could have been a part of

448
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Speaker 5: your business unit moving forward through school.

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Speaker 3: You know, they could have been the person that.

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Speaker 5: Was making sure that your your branding was was correct.

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Speaker 5: Like what is Brady Brady's brand? We're going to make

452
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Speaker 5: sure that brand is built and pronounced. What what is

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Speaker 5: he doing financially? Like is he able to generate modeling

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Speaker 5: gigs and stuff like that?

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Speaker 2: He's got the meat wagon, come on whatever?

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Speaker 5: Who but think about it, his best friends are his

457
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Speaker 5: best friends and they're still buddies from high school.

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Speaker 2: The role doing anything to help this process.

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Speaker 3: There's a role for everybody is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: And if that role is carrying the bags and it

461
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Speaker 5: might be carrying the bags and meat wagon, your your back.

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Speaker 5: We're people too, bro, I'm with you on that. Don't

463
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Speaker 5: let them hold you down, man, just be who you are.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just.

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Speaker 5: Saying there is the idea that the educating of what

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Speaker 5: sport represents it should not be looked at as extracurricular.

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Speaker 5: You know, we don't look at you preparing to be

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Speaker 5: a scientist as being extracurricular. We don't look at you

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Speaker 5: being an architect or a lawyer as being extracurricular.

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Speaker 3: So let's look.

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Speaker 5: At something that is a tremendous fabric of what our

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Speaker 5: culture and our society is, which is sports, and make

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Speaker 5: it more of a focal point so that we can

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Speaker 5: actually have prepared parents and student athletes that are more

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Speaker 5: enlightened and understanding what the landscape presents. People don't even

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Speaker 5: know what NIL is. Still to this day, ask some people.

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Speaker 3: About what NIL is. They wouldn't be able to tell

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Speaker 5: So educating them at an earlier age get parents on

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Speaker 5: the same page at an earlier age for both those

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Speaker 5: who will continue on to be pros and those who

482
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Speaker 5: will continue on to be students. I might have been

483
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Speaker 5: a really really good football player and a basketball player

484
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Speaker 5: at the high school level. I'm not going to make

485
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Speaker 5: it at the college level, but I still want to

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Speaker 5: be a part of that sport. You're now giving them

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Speaker 5: opportunities as well. You're opening up the gates to having

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Speaker 5: people be more empowered with the changing landscape of what

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Speaker 5: sports represents.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: That's to me, I feel like that's what's grossly missing

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Speaker 5: in America because they don't play that. In Europe, they

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Speaker 5: don't play that. If you are good, they come get

494
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Speaker 5: you and you're out of there. You're already it's already

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Speaker 5: what it is. But here we don't do that. In fact,

496
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Speaker 5: we frown on it. If we give if we give

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Speaker 5: benefits and favoritism to elites in athletics, it's frowned upon,

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Speaker 5: and people try to find rules to govern in it

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Speaker 5: and keep them from doing it. I've seen more than

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Speaker 5: enough kids get, you know, suspended for seasons because they

501
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Speaker 5: wanted to go play out of school where there was

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Speaker 3: On what it is that they're they're trying to do.

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Speaker 5: There's always a roadblock that we're putting up to try

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Speaker 3: And I don't understand that that it has to change

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Speaker 4: That's right, abbreviated a version of this. So let's just

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Speaker 4: get right into it. We are what a game or

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Speaker 4: two above five hundred I think for the year. Well, look,

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Speaker 4: he was on, he was on when he was excited

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Speaker 4: about that the last conversation.

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Speaker 3: Nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 4: Let's kick things off though, in the quarteral quarter final rounds.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna talk about the bowl games that matter the most,

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Speaker 4: and we've got a big one later on this evening

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Speaker 4: six thirty or seven thirty pm Eastern. Excuse me, Miami

575
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Speaker 4: taking on Ohio State. Miami obviously, with their close win

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Speaker 4: over Texas and m in the first round, take it

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Speaker 4: on the Buckeyes team that yes, lost in the Big

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Speaker 4: Ten championship, however, still got a buy is still the

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Speaker 4: number two overall seed, and they are favored by nine

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Speaker 4: and a half points. Jonas, keep me honest in these lines, correct.

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Speaker 4: I know there's always some movement. I see this one

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Speaker 4: being closer than the experts think. There's a lot of

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Speaker 4: money too that's holding up this line at nine and

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Speaker 4: a half on the Miami side of things. But this

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Speaker 4: is a team that's I think been overlooked a bit

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Speaker 4: this season, and partly because the inconsistent quarterback played by

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Speaker 4: Carson Beck. However, they've got playmakers all around. Mark Fletcher

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Speaker 4: Junior the running back. He can tote the rock. This

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Speaker 4: offensive line is massive for Miami and they've done a

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Speaker 4: really good job at providing running lanes but also providing

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Speaker 4: protection to Beck this season.

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Speaker 3: And then Malachai TONI keep an eye on him. He'll

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Speaker 3: move him around all over the field.

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Speaker 4: He's just a legit playmaker as a freshman, and he's

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Speaker 4: helped kind of create some big moments for this team

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Speaker 4: throughout the course of the season. On the flip side,

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Speaker 4: Messador and Rubin Bank two of the best edge rushers.

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Speaker 3: In college football. Two guys are going to hear their

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Speaker 3: names called really early in next year's draft.

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Speaker 4: They're going to be tough to deal with for this

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Speaker 4: Ohio State offensive line, which, again, when you really look

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Speaker 4: who's the best quarterback they faced all year? Probably Mendoza.

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Speaker 4: It's probably fair to say that might have been the

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Speaker 4: best offense they faced. And even though it was a

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Speaker 4: low scoring game, tight game, one in which Ohio State

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Speaker 4: could have very well won, they didn't.

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Speaker 3: In the end, I think this is another lower scoring game,

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Speaker 3: tight game, don't.

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Speaker 4: I think nine and a half points is too much,

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Speaker 4: so I'm gonna take the nine and a half points.

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Speaker 3: I do think the Buck guys move on to win

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Speaker 3: this game.

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Speaker 4: Though, so that's my first pick is Miami plus the

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Speaker 4: nine and a half points in that matchup.

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Speaker 3: Next up, we'll talk about the.

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Speaker 4: Orange Bowl tomorrow at noon Eastern Oregon laying two and

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Speaker 4: a half points. Last time I looked Jonas versus Texas Tech.

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Speaker 4: This Oregon team reminds me a bit of Ohio State

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Speaker 4: last year, where you know, I remember Ohio State didn't

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Speaker 4: make it a Big Ten championship game. It was Oregon

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Speaker 4: who ran the table. It was Oregon who got the

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Speaker 4: buy and then Oregon who subsequently last year in the

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Speaker 4: playoff got blown out by Ohio State. But this team

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Speaker 4: is really it has all the pieces. My only concern

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Speaker 4: is whether or not Texas Tech can run the football

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Speaker 4: effectively to create some of the balance and really expose

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Speaker 4: The only issue I've seen this year for Morgan's defense

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Speaker 4: playmakers to rush on the edges. They've got the secondary too.

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Speaker 4: I think they get turnovers. It just comes down to

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Speaker 4: if Texas Tech wants to play Boy Ball and if

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Speaker 4: they have enough balance they were running the football. But

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Speaker 4: Dante Moore could be making a case for being the

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Speaker 4: number one overall pick after this year. If he decides

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Speaker 4: to leave school, I've got him as one of the

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Speaker 4: top quarterbacks, if not the top quarterback as we head

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Speaker 4: into the draft.

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Speaker 3: I just think there's too much talent on Oregon, too

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Speaker 3: much speed. It's been a great year for Texas Tech.

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Speaker 4: I do think this will be another close game, but

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Speaker 4: only the two and a half points here with Oregon.

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Speaker 4: Next up Georgia taking on Old Miss Georgia laying six

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Speaker 4: and out points.

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Speaker 2: Jonas, is that still the line that's correct?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 4: Georgia has continually improved as the season has gone on.

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Speaker 4: If you're an SEC fan and you're looking like you

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Speaker 4: always do to root for one team of your conference

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Speaker 4: and then claimants the conference dominance, it would be get

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Speaker 4: behind Georgia.

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Speaker 3: Gunnar Stockton's been somewhat of a playmaker.

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Speaker 4: They found more of a balanced rushing attack, and defensively,

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Speaker 4: they're one of the best defenses in the country. I

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Speaker 4: think this is where the road stops for Old Miss.

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Speaker 4: Triudadad Chambliss has had a tremendous season. Old Miss is

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Speaker 4: at a tremendous season. They really haven't been challenged though

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Speaker 4: they only played four teams with winning records this year.

659
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 4: That excludes, obviously their Round one win vers Tulane, which

660
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 4: again not really much of a challenge. We already saw

661
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 4: that game earlier this season. That was arguably one of

662
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Speaker 4: their best wins of the year, so this is a

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Speaker 4: completely different challenge. I think Old miss would be outclassed Georgia.

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Speaker 4: You laid the six and a half points and they

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Speaker 4: move on. Finally, last game is I'm looking through my notes,

666
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Speaker 4: Why am I blanking Alabama?

667
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Speaker 2: Indiana?

668
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: There we go Alabama, danam my goodness.

669
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Speaker 4: The number one team in the country is IU and

670
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 4: they've exceeded all expectations this year and just winning the

671
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Speaker 4: Big Ten, running the table, beating Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: If there was any.

673
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 4: Questions or concerns about what this team's capable of doing,

674
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 4: they've won in a variety of ways. They stomped an

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Speaker 4: Illinois team that was ranked in the top twenty at

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Speaker 4: that point in time three to ten. They beat who

677
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Speaker 4: was looked at as the best team all season in

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Speaker 4: Ohio State in the Big Ten championship game.

679
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Speaker 3: Down the stretch.

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Speaker 4: They've won a dramatic fashion versus a good Penn State

681
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Speaker 4: team on the road. Yes, and I understand, you know,

682
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 4: people will take issue with that, but I still think

683
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 4: Penn State is a better team. People give them credit,

684
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Speaker 4: but this isn't a challenge I think.

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Speaker 3: For IU where they I just.

686
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 4: Don't trust them in the trenches to be able to

687
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 4: compete with Alabama throughout the course of the game.

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Speaker 3: Even though Alabama was.

689
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 4: Elected not to really want to run the football, I

690
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 4: do think they're going to have to have a little

691
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Speaker 4: bit more balance if they want to beat Indiana. But

692
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 4: Simpsons played phenomenal. Ryan Williams is a tough matchup Jeremy Bernard.

693
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Speaker 4: They've got playmakers on the outside that are tough to

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Speaker 4: keep up with. This Alabama defense has improved. I'm not

695
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 4: even saying they win this thing outright. I wouldn't be

696
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 4: surprised if they do. But I am taking the points

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00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 4: in Alabama. I think a touchdown, which last time I

698
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 4: checked it was at seven points, is a seven to

699
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 4: seven half, still seven.

700
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 3: I would take the seven points and Bama. I think

701
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 3: this is another tighter game.

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00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 4: Which, mind, you go through Indiana season when if they

703
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 4: played a good team and it hasn't been a tight

704
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 4: game if you include Iowa in that conversation, tight game.

705
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 4: We talked about the end of game heroics versus Penn State.

706
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 4: We talked about the end of game heroics versus Ohio

707
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 4: State in the Big Ten Championship game. Outside of the

708
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 4: Illinois game, most of their big games have been tight.

709
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Speaker 4: So this is one where I think it's it's too

710
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Speaker 4: big of a number. Alabama's too talented in certain spots

711
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 4: that can create an issue, and I do think Obama

712
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 4: keeps within the number. So take the seven points here

713
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 4: and the Crimson tie.

714
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 2: I'm talking about right there, baby.

715
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 5: Yeahs oh oh, we brought it back.

716
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: There was an effort made.

717
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 2: We got it, ladies and gentlemen. Geez, Mark, just trying

718
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: to like that, Mark, Mark, you got to turn your

719
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Speaker 2: phone off when you're doing the show. What's wrong with you?

720
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Speaker 2: I know, with an accident, you know, talking to people.

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Speaker 3: You know, it gets in the way of works. The toys. Damn.

722
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: By the way, I did put together a little parlay

723
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 2: on DraftKings based on the Quinns wins. So Miami plus

724
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 2: nine and a half, Oregon minus two and a half,

725
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 2: Georgia minus six and a half, Alabama plus seven. If

726
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: you bet ten dollars on that, you're gonna win just

727
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: a little bit over one hundred and twenty six. All right,

728
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: so ten bucks wins you one hundred and twenty six.

729
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: And if you want to get real risky and real frisky,

730
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: a thousand wins you twelve hundred and sixty three dollars

731
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: or one hundred bucks wins you twelve hundred and sixty about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not worth a thousand. Don't do that.

733
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: You're doing it here. A thousand would bring you back

734
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: twelve grand. So listen, there's there's opportunities out there. I

735
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna four leg it. What do you think

736
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: about that? LaVar always three legs, and I'm gonna face.

737
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 3: I'm comfortable with my three legs. Hey, yo, what what

738
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 3: talking about? Parlay?

739
00:36:59,360 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 6: And?

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00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? Which game are you not betting in that?

741
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: Parlad? So are you saying that my Texas Tech to

742
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 2: go to the to go to the championship is feels

743
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: like a real long shot?

744
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see it.

745
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 4: I mean the teams I feel most confident in winning

746
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 4: it obviously, Ohio State, Georgia and Oregon. Those three, from

747
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 4: what I've seen this year, are the most consistent and

748
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 4: the most balanced. They're the most depth, and I think

749
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 4: they're playing some really good football. So look, I understand

750
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 4: again not putting Indiana, who's gone undefeated, is the number

751
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 4: one team in.

752
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 3: The country, is part of the conversation.

753
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 4: And by the way, I hope they proved me wrong

754
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 4: because they have overachieved.

755
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 3: They have constantly surprised us.

756
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 4: It's just being on the field man and seeing that

757
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 4: team and how they match up physically versus even Ohio

758
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 4: stateyed the Big Ten Championship. There's a sense of like

759
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 4: surprise and just kind of in awe of what Kurt

760
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 4: Signetti and his staff and those players have been able

761
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 4: to accomplish because they do not look like the rest

762
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 4: of the teams who are at least still in the

763
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 4: College Football Playoff. When you see the size, the athleticism,

764
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 4: the length, and you compare it to Indiana, it's just

765
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 4: it feels still like a Cinderella story, even though I

766
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 4: think they've proven to be more than that now and

767
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 4: doing what they've done this season. And so look, in

768
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 4: my heart, I'm rooting for them. I just I guess

769
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 4: I got to see it to believe it. And I'm

770
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 4: one hundred percent okay with that, and I one hundred

771
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 4: percent would love to see them prove me wrong, and

772
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 4: and look that numbers at seven points. It seems like

773
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 4: a lot, but the people who make these lines tend

774
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 4: to know what they're doing.

775
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 3: It is radio format.

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00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 2: Is the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Sorry,

777
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 2: ready to get out? Yeah go figure It's LeVar Arrington

778
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: and it's a LeVar Arrington show here on Fox Sports Radio.

779
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 3: Coming up, Dan Patrick Show, Like, why are you doing this?

780
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 5: Like it's so awkward and it's it's under your appropriate

781
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 5: I don't get that.

782
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 3: What are you doing right now?

783
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: Because you didn't return my call? We are going to

784
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 2: have our Midweek Awards coming up tomorrow. It is the Good,

785
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: the Bad, and the Ugly, and it's next here on FSR.

786
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

787
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788
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,279
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789
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: listen live.

790
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,799
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791
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you coming off

792
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 2: top of next hour, we'll call it about ten minutes

793
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Speaker 2: from now, the great Petres Popadakas is going to stop by.

794
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Speaker 2: Always a fun conversation with the oldp that'll be yours

795
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 2: here about ten minutes from now before we get to

796
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: a little something we do on our show called The Good,

797
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 2: the Bad, and the Ugly. Want to remind you that

798
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: with the iHeartRadio App, you can stream us wherever you

799
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,680
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00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: of your presets in the iHeart app, so we'll always

805
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Speaker 2: pop up at the top of your screen.

806
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,

807
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,

808
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: bad and ugly.

809
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: All right, Patrick Sweek, our executive producer, what do we

810
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 2: Who's got what today?

811
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 5: We're gonna go rampid fire here, we got the good,

812
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 5: the band and the ugly.

813
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 3: Well, the good is.

814
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: Mister Professor Stixon sale far you get to go for

815
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: you're the good brother, all right.

816
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 5: The good is I can get through ABC without messing up. Uh.

817
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 3: And we have a lot of games tonight.

818
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 5: You know this, This is obviously the start of the

819
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 5: big games in the playoffs, So I'm excited about that.

820
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: Super good. All right. Next up, we got the bad

821
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 3: Brady Sheriff Queen. You're ready. Oh yeah, that's easy for me.

822
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 4: It's SC's PR campaign and Lincoln Riley and talking that

823
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 4: talk like Notre Dame tried to avoid them, and meanwhile,

824
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 4: they can't beat a team that doesn't even have their

825
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 4: starting quarterback in TCU guy through six.

826
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 3: Pass attempts last night.

827
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'll say that's the bad is SC and

828
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 4: where the program's at right now and trying to take

829
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 4: shots at everyone else after they released a joint statement,

830
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 4: but then just you know, going rogue again, doing their

831
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 4: own thing.

832
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: All right, I like it, I'll like it.

833
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: And finally we got the ugly Sheriff Knox.

834
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Speaker 3: You're up.

835
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Speaker 2: It's the constant complaining about college football, whether it's you know,

836
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 2: teams opting out, teams opting in players not participating bowl games,

837
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: the college football playoff expansion, what can we do to

838
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: improve things? It's just constantly complaining, constantly crying. I got

839
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 2: news for you. We're not that far away from you

840
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: looking around and realizing you've got to talk NBA. Okay,

841
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: so enjoy it while you got it. Enjoy the sport

842
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: wild's here. We've got the college football Playoff. We've got

843
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: a classic matchup coming up later on tonight. You've got Miami,

844
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 2: You've got Ohio State. Fox Sports Radio's got a bracket

845
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: you can be a part of. You can run a

846
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars if you predict and call your shot correctly.

847
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: These are the real good games we've waiting for. It's

848
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 2: finally here. Enjoy it. Stops spending so much time complaining

849
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: about it. That's my ugly for the week. How about that?

850
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: Jus is ugly?

851
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: Damn?

852
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: Come on, it looks see the guy from the Hunger Games.

853
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 3: What you don't think you do?

854
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: You're talking about the guy from the first movie?

855
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, take that. He does look like the Hunger Game.

856
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: Take that. Take