WEBVTT - Big Data and You

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<v Speaker 1>From UFOs, two, ghosts and government cover ups. History is

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<v Speaker 1>riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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<v Speaker 1>learn the stuff they don't want you to now. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to the show. My name is Matt and

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<v Speaker 1>i'm Ben. We're here with our super producer Noel, which

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<v Speaker 1>makes this stuff they moge want you to know. Close

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<v Speaker 1>snug quite there. You're right, I said something wrong. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't figure out what it was. Yeah, we're pretty excited

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<v Speaker 1>about this new gadget or I guess new to us

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<v Speaker 1>gadget that's here in the studio to day, Matt, do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to tell everybody a little bit about it?

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a couple of old school synthesizers from the

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<v Speaker 1>seventies and eighties, and hopefully no one's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>bringing those in the mix. Maybe on this show, maybe not.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know. He looks like it

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<v Speaker 1>could go either way. So let's start today's episode with

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<v Speaker 1>an anecdote that you may have heard if you watched

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<v Speaker 1>our video series earlier this week two thousand twelve. Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>and this family starts getting ads from Target. You know

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<v Speaker 1>every people get ads from Target, right, You're used to it.

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<v Speaker 1>It happens, but this time something's different. They've received ads before,

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<v Speaker 1>but this time something's off. The ads are for stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like diapers, strollers and baby lotion and stuff. You get

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<v Speaker 1>the idea, like for someone who's expecting lovely thing to be.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a catch here. Nobody at that house is expecting.

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<v Speaker 1>So the dad is livid, and the especially about the

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<v Speaker 1>ads addressed specifically to his teenage daughter. That's the whole

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<v Speaker 1>point to his high school aged daughter. Yeah, yep. And

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<v Speaker 1>so he goes to Target in person on in some

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<v Speaker 1>beast mode WTF kind of stuff trending towards w w E.

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<v Speaker 1>Possibly when he goes back, has a chat with his daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>comes back to Target and says, oh, yeah, she's expecting

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<v Speaker 1>in August. Whoops on all accounts. This comes to us

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<v Speaker 1>through a New York Times piece that was published on

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<v Speaker 1>February nineteenth, two thousand twelve, about how obsessively companies track

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<v Speaker 1>your shopping habits and every little piece of information they

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<v Speaker 1>can about you to hopefully make you more likely to

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<v Speaker 1>buy something. And the guy who was interviewed, the statistics

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<v Speaker 1>man working for Target interviewed in this New York Times

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<v Speaker 1>article was shut down after he mentioned this because what

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about is something that many many companies do

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<v Speaker 1>but is incredibly controversial, and that is big data. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that it's not necessarily something they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>you to know, but they don't want you to know

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<v Speaker 1>about it, Like it's kind of a known thing now

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<v Speaker 1>that you are being tracked in all these different ways

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<v Speaker 1>and looked at. But this is something that we feel

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<v Speaker 1>you should know more about, right, Yeah, it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's strange that you say it's not necessarily something

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want you to know, because they certainly don't

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<v Speaker 1>want other people to know the techniques used to gather

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<v Speaker 1>this information. Absolutely, they might not want you to know

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<v Speaker 1>some of the things that we can't tell you because

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know, right, because the data sets themselves are important,

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<v Speaker 1>But what maybe even more important and even more secretive

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<v Speaker 1>would be the techniques used to parson analyze this information

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<v Speaker 1>and even where they're getting some of this data from. Ah. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So what what is big data? If we have to

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<v Speaker 1>define it, it's not like it's not the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>as uh, big agribusiness or big bell or something big pomegranate. Right, No,

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<v Speaker 1>big data is just as in definition, any extremely large

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<v Speaker 1>data set or data set so that can be analyzed

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<v Speaker 1>usually now in the modern day computationally is the only

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<v Speaker 1>way to even get your wrap your head around it

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<v Speaker 1>um to reveal patterns and trends all kinds of associations,

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<v Speaker 1>especially those relating to human behavior and or the interactions

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<v Speaker 1>between humans. So, for instance, this big data would not

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<v Speaker 1>be the GPS of one person. It would be the

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<v Speaker 1>GPS of a city, or people who all work at

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<v Speaker 1>a large company or yeah, one one GPS companies data.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah or yeah, But I love the idea of the

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<v Speaker 1>GPS information of one like certain area and just all

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<v Speaker 1>of that data stacked vertically together from everyone that's been

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<v Speaker 1>in that area. Right. There are different ways to parse this, uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This big data usually include sets that are so large

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<v Speaker 1>there beyond the ability of typical software tools Like you couldn't,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, just take uh, some data set that is

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<v Speaker 1>big data size and put it in an Excel spreadsheet

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<v Speaker 1>on a Google travel. No, there's no way, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you did, it would be the largest file in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of XL. So when we look at the range

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<v Speaker 1>of this, we also know that the size of data

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<v Speaker 1>is a constantly moving target. Because it seems that there's

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<v Speaker 1>just more and more and more out there. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>really weird statistic here somewhere that I think is like

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<v Speaker 1>nine percent of all the data that exists was made

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<v Speaker 1>in the last twenty or ten years or something. Oh. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>it's exponential. And that's one of the things we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about here. Just the number of devices that collect

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<v Speaker 1>data or that you can collect data upon, and just

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<v Speaker 1>everything that's connected to the Internet nowadays. It's insane. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't go away once. Once you have a data set,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like it's irrelevant. You're still going to need

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe for future, you know, whatever endeavor is that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to do as a big business. Right for gamers, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this would be sort of the equivalent of an inventory

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't register weight. How role playing games turn and

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<v Speaker 1>you're more familiar with this, and I am, how role

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<v Speaker 1>playing games turn so many people into orders. We are

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<v Speaker 1>data orders as well, like the NSA clearly is. Uh. So,

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<v Speaker 1>what we'll do is will walk through some history of

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<v Speaker 1>big data, and then we'll also talk about some of

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<v Speaker 1>the controversy surrounding it, the ways it could be used,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the conspiracies theoretical and factual about this practice.

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<v Speaker 1>So one way that one way there's a group called

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<v Speaker 1>Meta Group or Gardner. Uh. They they have an analyst

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<v Speaker 1>there named Doug Laney, and he said, one great way

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<v Speaker 1>to measure big data would be in the three vs.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be increasing volume, uh, just how much data

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<v Speaker 1>you have, Uh, the velocity of the data, the speed

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<v Speaker 1>of the in and out right, and variety that type

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff, where is it coming from? So not just

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<v Speaker 1>all homogeneous GPS records, but also like what something else

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<v Speaker 1>people would collect on another set of data that's really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to look at when when combined with GPS data,

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<v Speaker 1>our phone records, that's always a fun thing. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>these these three vs that you're mentioning, this is now

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<v Speaker 1>an industry standard the way the whole industry looks at

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<v Speaker 1>big data with what is it? Volume? Velocity? What was

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<v Speaker 1>the third one? That's volume, velocity and variety. So uh,

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<v Speaker 1>GPS and phone records would be something that that helps

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<v Speaker 1>you flesh out a virtual persona, but it comes from

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<v Speaker 1>the same device probably for most people. True. So another

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<v Speaker 1>thing that would be more very would be stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>medical records, stuff like recent purchases on your financial records,

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<v Speaker 1>so you could part it down to uh people who

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<v Speaker 1>let's get a little bit dark with it. You could

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<v Speaker 1>parse it down to uh some We have these four

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<v Speaker 1>sets of data out this person, right, So we know

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<v Speaker 1>that once every week or something they go to a

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<v Speaker 1>clinic right and specializes in some kind of treatment, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we know that the medical records that they

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<v Speaker 1>have some kind of uh, debilitating condition. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>see that one of their recent purchases is a skydiving suit.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have built this picture with just the very

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<v Speaker 1>little information about someone who probably has a terminal disease

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<v Speaker 1>and wants to skydive because it was on their bucket list.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we know exactly the kind of things to sell

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<v Speaker 1>to this person, and we know exactly the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>things to sell, which is frightening. Uh. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is an example that you and I

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<v Speaker 1>just made up now, right, Matt, this is not we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know any more and that this has happened to

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<v Speaker 1>so this is a new information age. It's tough to

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<v Speaker 1>stress how quickly personal privacy has eroded, right, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>we the people of the information age, have committed um,

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<v Speaker 1>have have lost our privacy due to acts of negligence,

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<v Speaker 1>not due to aggressively rooting for this loss of privacy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just who reads terms and conditions, right, Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>we're all very happy about some of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>providing this type of data gives to us. The GPS

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<v Speaker 1>thing alone, I think is a massive I mean a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people would I don't. I can't speak for everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>but for myself to have the ability to use the

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<v Speaker 1>GPS when I'm out on the road somewhere instead of

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<v Speaker 1>having to look at a physical map is one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things where sometimes I just go, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>screw it, turn my GPS on. I need it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And even if they know that this, were highly aware

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<v Speaker 1>that this is being tracked. But but there's also there's

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<v Speaker 1>such a a sort of narcissism in paranoia, this idea

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<v Speaker 1>that yes, of course they care where I get my pickles.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, of course someone does. And don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean sure grocery stores for sure do. Every time

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<v Speaker 1>you swipe a loyalty card, you are generating more information

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<v Speaker 1>for them to uh target ads toward you, which we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about whether or not that is, you know, morally

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<v Speaker 1>wrong or ethically sticky or whatever or if you would,

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<v Speaker 1>would someone want that? Like, are there people out there

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<v Speaker 1>that want Kroger to know exactly what the order so

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<v Speaker 1>they can just say, hey, here's all the things that

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<v Speaker 1>you want and hear the coupons right there? And there

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<v Speaker 1>are some people I would definitely take some coupons for things.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, this is okay, this is so unrelated. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a side conspiracy here. And Matt, uh, So you

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<v Speaker 1>and I are just old enough to remember before these

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<v Speaker 1>loyalty cards came out everywhere, right, Yeah, when I was

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<v Speaker 1>in college, they didn't exist. So the way that they

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<v Speaker 1>were instant you did was that for for all the

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<v Speaker 1>young guns out there, the way that these cards were

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<v Speaker 1>instituted was at first they gave you discounts on things. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the conspiracies I've heard is that this

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<v Speaker 1>artificial price shenaniganting if I can make up the word, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately became something where having the card didn't really get

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<v Speaker 1>you a discount. It just got you the the regular price.

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<v Speaker 1>The regular price, yes, and the money that they're making

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<v Speaker 1>on top of selling your information to third parties. CBS

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<v Speaker 1>is like yeah, thanks, yeah, it's and and so you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're being penalized at least, this theory goes for not

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<v Speaker 1>participating in this program. And that's because again, the overwhelming

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<v Speaker 1>majority of companies, uh, don't just do this. They do

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<v Speaker 1>this with relish and it is profitable. But it is

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<v Speaker 1>a very very old idea. Is that I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say this, here's the worst news about that whole situation.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that even if you go somewhere and shop. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna use an example, but I'm aware of like

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<v Speaker 1>publics that I don't have a loyalty card for and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that you can get one. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>can now, but and you you try and save money there,

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<v Speaker 1>if you pay with a card of any type, then

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff is being tracked, maybe by a separate company,

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<v Speaker 1>a third party, or maybe just your credit card company.

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<v Speaker 1>But the same thing is happening. And we'll see a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of different reasons that this happens, you know, or

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<v Speaker 1>or a couple of different motivations for this collection. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's walk through the history first. Okay, so this is

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<v Speaker 1>not a new thing. Trying to track data, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>understand numbers about things that are happening in the world

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<v Speaker 1>around you. Goes back seven thousand years to something that

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<v Speaker 1>we've mentioned before in Mesopotamia during the birth of agriculture,

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<v Speaker 1>when you had to keep track of seeds, you had

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<v Speaker 1>to keep track of crops and soil, just everything you

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<v Speaker 1>needed to know data about the ground and the plants

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<v Speaker 1>that you're trying to put in there. So yeah, So,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, there's an accounting system that goes in to

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<v Speaker 1>monitor the growth of a I don't know, uh, an

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<v Speaker 1>olive sure, an olive tree, right, and so, um, you

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<v Speaker 1>know some farmer named John Stamos, a very common name

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<v Speaker 1>in Mesopotamia at the time. I imagine, Uh, this farmer,

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<v Speaker 1>John Stamos has uh, a bunch of olives, and they

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<v Speaker 1>have to have a way to track year over year

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<v Speaker 1>the performance of that crop. Right. So this is when

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<v Speaker 1>they begin saying, Okay, you know John Stamos has X

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<v Speaker 1>amount of trees. They yield y amount of olives each year.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what we can expect. This is what we

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<v Speaker 1>can expect, this is what we can bet against, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what we can sell an advance before it's made.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you get into we're gonna jump forward pretty far here,

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<v Speaker 1>all the way to sixteen sixty three. Nothing else happened, yeah, zero,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing between seven thousand years ago. Let's just say improvements

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<v Speaker 1>are being in incrementally, you know, are happening up until

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<v Speaker 1>this point. But then on the next big change, the

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen sixty three when John Grant, I think that's how

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<v Speaker 1>you correctly spell it. Grant very British. Uh. He recorded

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<v Speaker 1>an examined information about mortality rates because the bubonic plague

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<v Speaker 1>was just ravaging just the entire area at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and he decided he wanted to know more information about,

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<v Speaker 1>like how what is happening here, exactly how many people

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<v Speaker 1>are getting affected? Why are they getting affected? Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>information and we can start solving this. Yeah, and that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds that sounds sensible. It's the least you could do,

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<v Speaker 1>right we I don't know, have we ever talked on

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<v Speaker 1>this show about just how profoundly the plague or the

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<v Speaker 1>series of things known as the plague change the world. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I've listened to a little too much stuff you missed

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<v Speaker 1>in history class about it. So the information, Saan sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>gets muddled between what we've talked about and what I've

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<v Speaker 1>just heard. These plagues have played such a profound role

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<v Speaker 1>in uh, the global evolution of the human species. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just crazy it's the kind of stuff you would want

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<v Speaker 1>to keep track on. So this guy, uh, John Grant becomes,

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<v Speaker 1>uh the father of statistics, or he's considered that because

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<v Speaker 1>he does the first statistical data analysis that we have

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<v Speaker 1>recordings of, uh, and he has a book about it

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<v Speaker 1>called Natural and Political Observations Made upon the Bills of Mortality.

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<v Speaker 1>Just kind of a dry name, right, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a feel good subject, and people continue to work

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<v Speaker 1>off this statistical analysis. So let's fast forward to the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty century. Okay, so we're going to fast forward all

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<v Speaker 1>the way to eighteen eight seven. This is when the

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<v Speaker 1>modern the age of modern data, modern data is when

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<v Speaker 1>it is born. So this gentleman named Herman Hollerith invented

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<v Speaker 1>a computing machine that could read these holes punched holes

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<v Speaker 1>in cards that paper cards in order to organize census data.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a huge change because you have to

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<v Speaker 1>imagine just collecting data, of going door to door getting information,

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<v Speaker 1>then trying to compile that just with humans in rooms.

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<v Speaker 1>That it was taking so they would do one one

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<v Speaker 1>census every ten years, I believe at the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was taking almost nine years before you would get

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<v Speaker 1>the results from the census of the previous the previous census.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was almost I don't not worthless, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was just felt like they were running backwards almost right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they had they had a data set that would be

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<v Speaker 1>when it was finally complete, useful for a little less

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<v Speaker 1>than a year. Yeah, exactly so. Uh. The first data

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<v Speaker 1>processing machine appeared in nineteen forty three. This was, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>it came out of war. A lot of technological in

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<v Speaker 1>vations come out of war. Uh. And it was meant

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<v Speaker 1>to decipher codes from the Nationalist Socialists or the Nazis. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This thing was named Colossus, which is a pretty cool name.

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<v Speaker 1>And they would intercept messages. They would feed things to

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<v Speaker 1>Colossus and would search for patterns in these characters. And

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<v Speaker 1>it worked pretty quickly. Yeah. It would go five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>characters per second, which is huge. It reduced the time

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<v Speaker 1>from weeks two hours. Let's stroll through some other stuff here,

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of laundry listed so you can get to

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<v Speaker 1>the good stuff. Uh. Nineteen fifty two, everybody's favorite, the

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<v Speaker 1>n s A, the National Security Agency is created, and

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<v Speaker 1>within ten years they have more than twelve thousand cryptologists

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<v Speaker 1>on contract. That's huge. Then you've got. In nineteen sixty five,

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<v Speaker 1>the US government builds the first data center which can

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<v Speaker 1>store seven hundred and forty two million tax returns and

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<v Speaker 1>also a hundred and seventy five million sets of fingerprints.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this is pretty interesting here because this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is something that was recorded on the magnetic tape and

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<v Speaker 1>computer tape. You may, I don't know if anybody listening

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<v Speaker 1>would know what that is. Hopefully maybe you've heard of

0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:17.080
<v Speaker 1>this magnetic tape. My father is a controller controlling account

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<v Speaker 1>and they have a like a newer version of this

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<v Speaker 1>magnetic tape, but it's still all of their stuff is

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<v Speaker 1>backed up to this magnetic tape because it's so well,

0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:29.720
<v Speaker 1>it's supposedly so reliable. Well, also, people will recognize the

0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:33.280
<v Speaker 1>magnetic tape if you've never seen it before. Um, every

0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:36.960
<v Speaker 1>time you see an old computer with reels on it,

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<v Speaker 1>that's magnetic tape. In Captain America the Winter Soldier, the

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<v Speaker 1>sequel to the First Captain America, Uh, there is a

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<v Speaker 1>scene which I won't spoil for you if you haven't

0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:48.439
<v Speaker 1>gotten around the scene it yet, but there is a

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<v Speaker 1>scene which involves a gigantic computer and that is magnetic tape. Awesome, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>good reference. Now we understand. But here here's the thing. Though,

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<v Speaker 1>This whole project was scrapped because of fears of quote

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<v Speaker 1>big brother right, being a little bit too big brotherish

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<v Speaker 1>little Orwellian. So this, however, changed everything because people were thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>what if we centralize, um, the location of data, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>no more paper, just electronically store it. A British guy,

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<v Speaker 1>so you may have heard of tim Berners Lee of

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<v Speaker 1>Invince what will go on to become the World Wide Web?

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<v Speaker 1>And with this foom, we're going like gangbusters because people

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<v Speaker 1>are able to generate massive amounts of information, much more

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<v Speaker 1>so than anybody could plausibly read. And when it's connected

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<v Speaker 1>up to this uh interweb, if you will, it can

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<v Speaker 1>be it can be sent somewhere else, right. And then

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<v Speaker 1>if you do have a data center, doesn't matter where

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<v Speaker 1>the data is collected, you can send it directly over

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<v Speaker 1>there almost immediately. Yeah, it's it's bizarre when we think

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<v Speaker 1>about that, and especially we think about um, how just

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<v Speaker 1>let's have a John Henry moment, and can you compare

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<v Speaker 1>matt the the ability of a supercomputer to a person.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God, can I m hmm. Let's say okay, let's

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<v Speaker 1>say in the first supercomputer. Let's use that one as

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<v Speaker 1>our example. It could do as much work in one

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<v Speaker 1>second then a single human being operating a calculator could

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<v Speaker 1>do in thirty thousand years. Thirty thousand years. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>not even the twenty one century, ladies and gentlemen. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we are at the modern age. And two thousand five,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy from O'Reilly media coined the term big data

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time. Uh and this was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a successor to a another less fortunate buzzword, which was

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<v Speaker 1>web two point oh yeah, yeah, the new coke of

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<v Speaker 1>web words. But yeah, so this this idea here is

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more bad of the idea of data

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<v Speaker 1>set that is just so massive and complex and interwoven

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't use the traditional business intelligence tools to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what's going on. Right And oh five is

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<v Speaker 1>also the year that Hoddup was created by Yahoo, which

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<v Speaker 1>was built on the back of Google's map produce. And

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<v Speaker 1>these are just softwares that can basically take data from

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<v Speaker 1>using a bunch of different computers to crunched numbers like

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<v Speaker 1>and huge amounts um And it was the goal to

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<v Speaker 1>index the entire or the entire worldwide Web. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>these things were created and uh, it's the open source

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<v Speaker 1>to dupe. It was used by a lot of organizations

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<v Speaker 1>to crunch through data. That just is it's almost in

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<v Speaker 1>quantifiable how huge it is. Right, and this is not

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<v Speaker 1>just a private industry thing, of course, And the line

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<v Speaker 1>is blurry. We seem to talk about these two events

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<v Speaker 1>in isolation, as if the n s A using phone

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<v Speaker 1>records and social media contacts. Who do you know that

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<v Speaker 1>knows who? That knows who on Facebook? Right on the list?

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're on the list right. Uh, they're they're not

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<v Speaker 1>just using that, Uh and target or another private organization, um,

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<v Speaker 1>a data broker. There are companies that just broker data. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>These do not exist in a vacuum. There's interplay between them,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, they're increasingly merging to do just some amazing things.

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<v Speaker 1>We're getting very very good at seeing the present as

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<v Speaker 1>never before. And other governments are involved in this as well.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand nine, the Indian government did something just

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<v Speaker 1>ambitious is like the most reasonable word for this. They

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<v Speaker 1>decided to take an Irish scan, fingerprint and photo of

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in India, every single person in India. There are

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<v Speaker 1>so many people, Yes, can you imagine listener Uh, if

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<v Speaker 1>the government came to you and said, Okay, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to need we're gonna need an Irish skin of fingerprint,

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and we're also going to need a photograph, a really

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<v Speaker 1>nicely framed photograph with good contrast. We're gonna put it

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<v Speaker 1>in of you and everyone in your family put it

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<v Speaker 1>into this database. Don't worry. We're gonna make sure it's secure,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're not going to use it for anything but

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<v Speaker 1>for good things. Right, Yeah, and that's one point to

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<v Speaker 1>billion people to bill. Yeah, this is the largest biometric

0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:40.439
<v Speaker 1>database in the world. So there's a great thing that

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Schmidt from Google also said, right, just another sense

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<v Speaker 1>of perspective here, yeah, he he stated at the Techonomy

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<v Speaker 1>conference in Lake Tahoe. He he stated, quote, there were

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<v Speaker 1>five exabytes of information created by the entire world between

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<v Speaker 1>the dawn of civilization and two thousand three. Now that

0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:07.160
<v Speaker 1>same amount is created every two days. Boom. Take take

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:09.399
<v Speaker 1>that history of the universe. I can't wait till the

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<v Speaker 1>aliens land and say uh that they're like, Wow, these

0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 1>guys figured out how to make uh pizza into burritos

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a blog about it. It's sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>when you know, when people modern times find ancient Greek

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<v Speaker 1>or Roman or African ruins from these empires of bygone days.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's always some jerk like hundreds of years ago

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<v Speaker 1>who wrote like Tim was here, yeah and true, like

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<v Speaker 1>dick butt from Reddit. They're just like, what is a

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 1>precursor right there? Right? So there's but there's so much

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 1>information being made and you know, I'm being a little

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:51.159
<v Speaker 1>crass here, but the point I'm hoping to make is

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<v Speaker 1>that this information is not you know, noble stuff or

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<v Speaker 1>even stuff that would really make sense to a human

0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:01.920
<v Speaker 1>being you didn't know they were looking for. These are metrics,

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:05.920
<v Speaker 1>these are movements. These are little breadcrumbs of you scattered

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 1>around the Internet at large, and then you're just bringing

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<v Speaker 1>them together to make another picture. It's like pointali is um,

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<v Speaker 1>Really that's a wonderful, wonderful image. Yeah, that's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>On Everything you do online today or in any electronic

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>medium is recorded by somebody. Yep. If you're typing on

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<v Speaker 1>a keyboard or on a touchpad, it's getting recorded, So

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it. I'm like, hey, unless you're on an air

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>gas computer, and we've all learned now what that is,

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<v Speaker 1>so okay, so let's just another example here. Uh, Fortunately

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<v Speaker 1>for some of us, I'm not going to name names,

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<v Speaker 1>but for some of us, it is not a crime

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to be drunk on the internet. Well yeah, okay, sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are people who you know, have maybe in

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 1>a fit of passion or maybe they had some drinks

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<v Speaker 1>and they wrote something crazy on the Internet and they

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<v Speaker 1>almost sent it and they said, no, wait, I'm gonna

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 1>sleep on this. Let me think about this before I

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<v Speaker 1>write anything. Well, those ghost movements, those drafts that you make,

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 1>are also part of this. So just the act of typing,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in Facebook. Oh you know, yeah, don't goos draft

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:22.919
<v Speaker 1>in Facebook, right, yeah, and all of these pieces of

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>information assemble. Again, that's such a beautiful image, man, a

0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 1>point list portrait of you and who you are. And

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<v Speaker 1>the big worry that a lot of people have, and

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:35.119
<v Speaker 1>we see it through sci fi and pop culture, and

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.399
<v Speaker 1>we've seen this for decades, is that this will be

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<v Speaker 1>able to go beyond just a a panopoly view of

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the present or a panopticon kind of view of the present,

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>to become predictive. Oh yeah, so eventually you just have

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<v Speaker 1>an understanding of what each one of these people is

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<v Speaker 1>going to do throughout their daily lives, what what the

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 1>corporation is going to profit from in the next two

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 1>three years? You can. I mean, it's crazy to imagine

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<v Speaker 1>all the information that we will eventually be able to

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<v Speaker 1>get from this big data and whose hands will it

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<v Speaker 1>be in well? And who can who can accurately understand this?

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<v Speaker 1>So we we also talk about these controversies. This stuff

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 1>is around to stay until the lights go out on humanity. Yeah,

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:30.680
<v Speaker 1>this this stuff will be around to stay. Oh yeah,

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:33.439
<v Speaker 1>it is here to stay unless there's some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>weird fight club moment and all the buildings holding all

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the stuff the data centers blow up, which is probably

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna happen. There's really good security at those buildings, right,

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 1>and it's a distributed network, so it would be hard

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 1>to take the head off. It would hard be hard

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>to take all of the heads off the hydrant that

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:56.440
<v Speaker 1>is the information age. Of course, this doesn't come without controversy.

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:59.160
<v Speaker 1>We have we have a video about four creepy things

0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:02.680
<v Speaker 1>about big aida, or this umbrella term, which can again

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>apply to government as well as industry. It can learn

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.719
<v Speaker 1>big data can be used to learn your secrets. That's scary.

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:13.199
<v Speaker 1>So if you think, uh, nobody knows that you routinely

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<v Speaker 1>order three large cheese pizzas with ham and sit in

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the dark in your house at two am every Thursday

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>night eating and crying. Nope, sorry, getching reruns A Firefly,

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:31.400
<v Speaker 1>watching reruns a Firefly? Nope, sorry. Somebody knows. Papa John's knows. Comcast,

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 1>probably knows, Podcast, probably knows. Maybe Netflix. Uh so. The

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>another thing it doesn't have to tell you what it knows.

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 1>There is a surprising lack of transparency on the part

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 1>of companies collecting your information. Yeah, that, Um, what is

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<v Speaker 1>the name of the company Axiom? Axiom? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 1>they're scary. Huh uh dude, Yeah, I've been We're making

0:28:57.840 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>this video, and the way it works is usually Ben

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 1>will Ben will write an outline for what he's going

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 1>to present in the vlog. I will shoot it. Then

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>as I'm editing, I end up doing a lot of

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 1>research and oh my god, Ben, I've just been scouring

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>their website and nothing against you, Axiom. If you're listening

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 1>your employees, Um, it's just a murky world. Well, it's pervasive.

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Like the the amount of information that Axiom has is

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 1>is impressive. Yeah, and the way they talk about it

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 1>sometimes their offline data that they have used for online purposes.

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's fascinating if you go to the website.

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>So we we've talked a little bit about just the

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>science fiction elements and how we see some science fact generating.

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 1>But we knew know that this is a very old story.

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>We've seen things like Isaac Asmov's Foundation series, which deal

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 1>with the fictional at this point fictional science of psychohistory

0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>predicting the future on a large scale event. We dealt

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>with gatica, where personal information medical information is used to gosh,

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to not to spoil things, yeah, but I mean,

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 1>what's the limit with spoilers? Like, at what point it

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of stinks? I guess you just have to put

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<v Speaker 1>an alert at the very beginning of something that might

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 1>have a spoiler in it and just say don't listen

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>to this if you have not seen these movies, read

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 1>these books, or listen to these songs. Wow. Pretty okay,

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 1>all right, So that's that's pretty complicated. But we've also

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 1>seen it in of course Minority Report, which we mentioned.

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 1>But the controversy surrounding this, which is expressed in our

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>culture is uh oh oh and Another one would be

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the dark night. Oh yes, yeah, we're Lucius Fox. Yeah,

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and the cell phone system monitoring system. So, uh, we see,

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>we see this expressed in the culture of UM multiple nations.

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 1>But what what's the real stuff? What's the real controversy?

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Could could it damage your credit report if you had

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>GPS data that said you were I don't know, going

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 1>to a pawn shop often or something? You know, Yeah,

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, And that's I don't want to scare anybody.

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:19.719
<v Speaker 1>That's a that's a made up example there, But we

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>do know that the we do know that the possibilities

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 1>for that kind of stuff. Again, just possibilities are there.

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>And then I love that you pointed out the other

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 1>side of the argument, which is, well, maybe this is

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 1>more convenient, Maybe this is the way things should be. Uh,

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a personalized experience for me wherever I go. Yeah,

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>it's certainly sold to us that way, and I think

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe some people by that. I I am, unfortunately somewhere

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 1>in the middle. I don't know if you ask for

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, Ben, but guess what I'm giving. I have

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>fall somewhere in the middle where I'm I appreciate what

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the I appreciate the attempt of what's trying to happen,

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>but ultimately, really the bottom line is that these companies

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>are trying to make a profit by targeting. Sure, right,

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 1>and that's the way you sell things. Nowadays, we're so

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 1>inundative with advertising that the only real way to get

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>a message across is to send it with an arrow

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>straight at your eyeball in your ear like, uh hi,

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>super producer Noel Brown, we understand that you have recently

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>begun working with a move. Here are some products that

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 1>might interest you exactly. I mean, that's the only way

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do it now. But yeah, that's that's probably true, man.

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>But I personally, my biggest concern about this, this encroaching analysis.

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 1>My biggest concern is that a can function as a

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of inherent censorship due to like the search bubble,

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>the idea that based on your past search history, you

0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>only receive results that are quote unquote relevant to you.

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to receive the results that are relevant

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 1>to me. I want to see both sides of any argument.

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I want to see um news that would be in

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 1>another language. There's gonna be some kind of college course

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 1>that shows you how to get the most balanced Google

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 1>search results, and it will all it will be an

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>entire course that just shows you how to develop over

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 1>time by searching for certain things at certain times. Well,

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 1>there are things like scroogle and Duck duck go that

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 1>are supposed to not track your search. There are places

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 1>to go currently, but you know, we've seen as acquisitions

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 1>continue and certain corporations continue to get more and more monolithic,

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I can see a future where there is one place

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>to search for things. Well. And there's also this idea

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>that that I think is tremendously positive, even noble almost,

0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 1>that if we had enough data, and we had enough

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:03.240
<v Speaker 1>sophisticated part seeing algorithms or software, then we might be

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<v Speaker 1>able to address global problems that ordinarily wouldn't have been

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 1>able to be solved, Like what if there were a

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>way to uh stop the massive extinction of Earth's wildlife? Right, agreed,

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 1>And that's amazing and I love that view. But conversely,

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:24.959
<v Speaker 1>you could also with that same data stomp out all

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and every form of resistance against a certain movement. That's true, right,

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 1>and uh, this this becomes a matter of uh, I

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know, the short term stuff versus the long term problems.

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:43.760
<v Speaker 1>With that being said, let's go straight to the crazy stuff,

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 1>the conspiracies, both theoretical and actual. Uh, there's a there's

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 1>a this theory, the troubling possibility, the kind of thing

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>that a sci fi writer would make a dystopian novel about,

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 1>that we could eventually arrive at a world in which

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>circumstance and accident has fallen to the statistical hand of

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:12.399
<v Speaker 1>faith and certitude, so that something very much like an

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:15.399
<v Speaker 1>artificial god knows how you will live your days from

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the cradle to the grave. Yeah. I don't like that, Ben,

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 1>It's a scary thing. There is some silver lining here, though. Uh,

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 1>there are many competitors right now in this space. There's

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>not just one big data right company. Right, Um, so

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 1>at least, you know, much in the same way that

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 1>there are shadowy forces trying to control the world, there

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:39.839
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of them. There's not just one group. Yeah.

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 1>And then these groups might not necessarily work together, especially

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 1>if they're competing in a private sphere, right, not unless

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, helpful for the bottom line. Right. They

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>gather their data sets and and they guard their techniques

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 1>pretty jealously. Also, here's the one thing when we talk

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 1>about this super all knowing Wizard of Oz type computer.

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>The fact of the matter is that we still apparently

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>can't build a computer that can predict the weather. No,

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>because there there's always with the weather. There's always that

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 1>um I don't know, that chaos factor almost to where

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you can't. There's so it's so complex, all of the

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 1>different moving parts that create the weather. But what ben

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:24.719
<v Speaker 1>what Yeah, I guess it would be. I guess the

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:27.759
<v Speaker 1>same would be true for big data. There's so many

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 1>different moving parts and it's so complex. Yeah, it seems

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:33.800
<v Speaker 1>like it would be. I don't know. Is it easier

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 1>to build something that can predict the weather or something

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 1>that can predict the passage of time in a country?

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 1>You know, we've talked before off air about this and

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe on air too, but uh, you know, I had

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 1>a professor a long time ago and in different life

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 1>who was working with DARPA to build an artificial model

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 1>of a country, with the idea that if they programmed

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 1>enough data points together and assign them to these individuals,

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 1>then they could measure kind of like foundation in real life.

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 1>They could measure the likelihood of trends, you know, like

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 1>if if police, if support for police goes up by

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 1>x percent, what will be the effect upon the livelihood

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:24.880
<v Speaker 1>or the likelihood of the regime's collapse or stability. And

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:27.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where he went with it, but it

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:31.759
<v Speaker 1>is some amazing, terrifying and inspiring stuff. Either way, he

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 1>can't talk about it anymore, right, and this and still

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 1>at least our knowledge listeners. Uh, this remains a theoretical thing,

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:43.920
<v Speaker 1>but it is a fact that big business is doing

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 1>stuff like this all the time, and not necessarily. You know,

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not like there's somebody out there just rubbing their

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 1>hands together, supervillain style, waiting for you to slip so

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:58.399
<v Speaker 1>they can, you know, tell tell your mom that you

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 1>are smoking cigarettes. There's something there. What what it is

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 1>more about is um not immoral but amoral um providing

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>of a better service or being a better um service

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:16.760
<v Speaker 1>to the consumer. But now consumers are increasingly the product

0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 1>as well, right exactly, Your information is the thing the commodity,

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 1>which is so weird. Information as commodity. I guess it's

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:26.759
<v Speaker 1>been coming for a long time and it has been

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>that way for a long time. It's just strange to

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:32.800
<v Speaker 1>think about it on this scale. It's almost like the

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 1>information what I'm seeing it is the access and ability

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 1>to collect massive amounts of information. Is this new gold

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 1>rush thing? Ah, that's good. Yeah, you're killing it with

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 1>the comparisons. So I don't know if that's just what

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing. Where all these large corporations that are building

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, massive supercomputer complexes of supercomputers that can just

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:59.399
<v Speaker 1>crunch numbers. Man, well we're but we're at a point where,

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:02.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're could be some positives for this if

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:06.319
<v Speaker 1>if it was able to if these data sets were

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 1>able to, for instance, help humanity combat I don't know,

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:16.240
<v Speaker 1>over fishing, or help humanity figure out the best way

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 1>to prevent mass starvation or disease. But again, you know,

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:23.759
<v Speaker 1>those things are also they seem to be more complex

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 1>than weather patterns. They are, and I just it's hard

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:31.400
<v Speaker 1>for me to imagine someone looking at those problems and

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:34.359
<v Speaker 1>making a profit from it, or you know, devising a

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 1>way to make a profit from it and use all

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 1>these assets in order to do something good. I'm sorry, man,

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:43.840
<v Speaker 1>my faith in humanity just like got ticked down a

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 1>couple of notches for some reason in thinking about all

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. Because this is all really what we're talking

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 1>about here, are ways to sell things, right, That's what

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing is about. Well, what I would say,

0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:58.319
<v Speaker 1>what I feel like, what we're talking about is a

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 1>little bit further than that. It's ways to predict future events.

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 1>So selling something is trying to predict what will trigger

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:13.520
<v Speaker 1>a purchase, right, So it's it's still predictive, or hopefully predictive.

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:18.200
<v Speaker 1>But the question though right now, and the answer it seems,

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:24.400
<v Speaker 1>is that overall, while we know that people are working

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:29.799
<v Speaker 1>fervently to build a machine that can read the future, right,

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 1>a modern day fortune teller, uh, we we do not

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 1>yet have that oracle, at least in the public sphere.

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:41.319
<v Speaker 1>We don't know about it, but we do know that

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:44.480
<v Speaker 1>people are working on it, and that brings us to um,

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess one of the things we can close with today.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh Yeah, a little something called anomaly detection at multiple

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:56.400
<v Speaker 1>scales or atoms. It's brought to you by DARPA. Friends

0:40:56.440 --> 0:41:00.480
<v Speaker 1>over at DARPA, good people. Um, they were card over

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:04.840
<v Speaker 1>at DARPA. So this comes directly from the DARPA website.

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:06.840
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just going to read you this quote's a

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 1>little along bear with me quote. The anomaly detection at

0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 1>multiple scales or atoms program creates, adapts, and applies technology

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:22.719
<v Speaker 1>to anomaly characterization and detection in massive data sets. Anomalies

0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:26.680
<v Speaker 1>in data cue the collection of additional actionable information in

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:31.799
<v Speaker 1>a wide variety of real world contexts. The initial application

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 1>domain is insider threat detection, in which malevolent or possibly

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:42.319
<v Speaker 1>inadvertent actions by a trusted individual are detected against a

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 1>background of everyday network activity. So they're looking, they're looking

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 1>at a person, a trusted insider person, and and then

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:57.440
<v Speaker 1>they are going, oh, well, here is an anomalous action

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<v Speaker 1>or an anomalous piece of data inside this. Sure, Like

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<v Speaker 1>Mrs Cunningham works for a Wall Street investment firm, and

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<v Speaker 1>every day Mrs Cunningham has lunch at twelve thirty and

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to work until six thirty, at which point

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<v Speaker 1>she leaves and it takes her an hour and a

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<v Speaker 1>half to get home because of traffic. And then one

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<v Speaker 1>day she goes to lunch, but instead of going to

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<v Speaker 1>a restaurant, she goes down to you know, um, a

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<v Speaker 1>gun store, or she goes to a you know her

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<v Speaker 1>her anomalous change, right yeah, Or she seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>in closer contact with the competitors, so they could they

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<v Speaker 1>could call these anomalies. And we've we've heard people talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this sometimes, like if you haven't checked out the

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:51.959
<v Speaker 1>website zero hedge, that's a it's a very interesting read

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<v Speaker 1>and it's well done. One of the things that they've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about before is anomaly detection and these theories about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, UM market forces or investor actions right before

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<v Speaker 1>calamitous events. Oh yeah, there's some great analysis of that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff by Tyler Dirton actually speaking of fight Club. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>uh so what Okay, this is part of one one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I wanted to ask you about. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you heard the theory that um not only is Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>Dirden not real, but the girlfriend character is not real either.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that it's another person he made up. Oh wow, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wow, okay. I'm trying to check it out. It

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<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with what we're talking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but we do want to hear from you, not just

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<v Speaker 1>with your Fight Club theories. But send him if you want.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's an interesting movie too. I won't go

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<v Speaker 1>into some of the plothole parts. All right, Well, let

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<v Speaker 1>us know what you think about it, but more importantly,

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 1>let us know what you think about big data. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it possible to get off of the grid? How difficult

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<v Speaker 1>is it? What do you think, um, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think people are doing with all this information the public

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<v Speaker 1>and private sphere. One of the big concerns that we

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<v Speaker 1>hear a lot about is the idea that the surveillance state,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in the US and the West, has grown

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<v Speaker 1>because um, the intelligence agencies and departments are able to

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<v Speaker 1>use the dirt they have on the elected officials to

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<v Speaker 1>prevent the elected officials from uh, you know, slowing the

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<v Speaker 1>growth of the surveillance state, the idea of a deep

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<v Speaker 1>state or shadow government. Okay, so to make me feel better,

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<v Speaker 1>please send in your suggestions like Ben had earlier, of

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<v Speaker 1>positive things that could be used that big data could

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<v Speaker 1>be used for. Please please send those to us, just

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