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Speaker 1: You're listening to soft Rep Radio special operations, military news

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Speaker 1: and straight talk with the guys and the community. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? This is RAT and I have a

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Speaker 1: special addition of soft Rep Radio today. As always, I

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Speaker 1: with me, who is running a production company for film

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Speaker 1: and television. Right, is that correct? Yeah? Man, we're technically

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Speaker 1: we're more than a production company, but we can get

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Speaker 1: into that. Yeah, for sure. Well. I and also, you're

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Speaker 1: an Army veteran served in the United States Army. I

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Speaker 1: believe the military Occupation specialty also known as an MS

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Speaker 1: is called a sixty eight whiskey. Is that right? That's

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Speaker 1: right man, that's it. Yeah, Medics, let's go before you

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Speaker 1: jump into your history. I heard a story that you

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, that's right. I mean, look, thankfully,

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Speaker 1: only be light torture whatever, ramming that thing down their

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Speaker 1: nasal passageway gently exactly farengerial airways. Like you know, you

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't get a full back, you know that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing. Now, how long did you do that in

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Speaker 1: the military? Four So I joined it seventeen years old.

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Speaker 1: tell me, yeah, that's what made you join the military?

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Speaker 1: Is there something like before this? Yeah? So basically born

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Speaker 1: into a hyper conservative sect of Christianity. It was actually

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Speaker 1: Definitely wasn't allowed to listen to be kind of music.

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Speaker 1: you know what's wild? So have you read Educated by

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Speaker 1: That's wild to me. It's such a cool experience. There

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Speaker 1: the series Lord of the Rings. Have you seen Lord

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Speaker 1: of the Rings? Yeah, okay, great, So Peter Jackson, who's

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Speaker 1: the director, was supposed to get seven and a half

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Speaker 1: percent of the royalties from that show. The trilogy was

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Speaker 1: made for two hundred and eighty one million dollars forever, yeah,

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Speaker 1: two one million dollars. It brought in six billion in

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Speaker 1: global receipts. Right by that they were done with this

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Speaker 1: corrupt accounting practice. They said that that movie trilogy lost

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars, which means that Peter Jackson got zero

435
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Speaker 1: of the royalties. He was supposed to beginning royalties on

436
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Speaker 1: almost five point seven billion dollars and he got nothing

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Speaker 1: because that's right. So, for instance, Tom Cruise in the

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Speaker 1: last Top Gun Maverick was freaking great if you haven't

439
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 1: seen it, but Tom Cruise was owed about a hundred

440
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Speaker 1: million dollars in streaming royalties that he's not getting and

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Speaker 1: it's insane. It happens all the time. I don't blame

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Speaker 1: the individual studios. I don't think it's their problem. It's

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Speaker 1: just the system that we operate in where their goal

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Speaker 1: is to make as much profit as possible at whatever

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Speaker 1: means necessary. And to me, that's not super equitable, you know, right,

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Speaker 1: And the Screen Actors Guild does have a hotline that

447
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 1: actors can call to try to track their residual checks

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Speaker 1: and see you know. So if you're an actor out

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00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 1: there and you are listening, you know, and you're trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out, do I have a residual for that

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00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 1: SAG project that you worked on Screen Actress Guild, you

452
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Speaker 1: should call the SAG residual department by googling it and

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Speaker 1: giving them your social or whatever information they asked for,

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Speaker 1: and see if you have a forty check coming in. Okay,

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Speaker 1: because I think my last residual was like sixty three dollars.

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Speaker 1: I opened it on TikTok. I'm like, I got a residual.

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Speaker 1: Let's see how much it is? What was it for?

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Speaker 1: What was it? That one was for? Stephen King? I

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Speaker 1: play Andy McGhee in the TV series fire Starter, where

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Speaker 1: the child has fire capabilities to blow everything up, and

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Speaker 1: then I have like telekinesis with my mind. It was

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Speaker 1: a series. I was the reoccurring father. It was to

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Speaker 1: film a San Diego and not to get off on

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Speaker 1: this horse. But nine eleven was going on and nobody

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Speaker 1: really wanted explosions, and so I know you had the

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Speaker 1: rug pulled out from berneath you high. I introduced myself

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Speaker 1: and more commonalities with each other. Yeah, exactly. Well, after

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Speaker 1: this show got rugg we wrote a really amazing story

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Speaker 1: about Lucmila pevelyn Chenka, female Ukrainian single mother who in

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Speaker 1: World War Two was a sniper. She killed three hundred

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Speaker 1: and nine fascions so Nazis in World War Two. She

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Speaker 1: was a total badass. She fell in love with her community,

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Speaker 1: with her commander, who kind of was acting as like

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Speaker 1: a senior spotter. They got married behind enemy lines. He

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Speaker 1: got blown up by a mortar. So then she basically

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Speaker 1: turns super terrible and she just like starts running off

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Speaker 1: on her own. She started shooting people and like hits, ankles, knees.

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Speaker 1: Whatever she did, get a buddy would run out, she'd

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Speaker 1: shoot that dude in the leg. Then she'd kill them all.

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Speaker 1: She became known as the Red Bitch or Lady Death

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Speaker 1: and the Germans you know, we're freaking out. There was

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Speaker 1: a propaganda tool for the Russians in the best way.

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Speaker 1: She basically developed drops, so snipers in that time World

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Speaker 1: War two were in a trench and they were like

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Speaker 1: every or so. But when she actually enlisted, they didn't

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Speaker 1: even give her a gun. So she had a grenade,

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Speaker 1: a shovel and ten rounds and her standing orders were

488
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Speaker 1: to pick up a weapon off of her falling comrade

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Speaker 1: because they were so understaffed and are undersupply, which is

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Speaker 1: insane closed my mind. It's like pick up the one

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Speaker 1: from the dead guy in front of you. Yeah, that's crazy,

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Speaker 1: exactly if you saw enemy at the gates. The character

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Speaker 1: was inspired by Luke Mila Pavelyn Jacob and so anyway,

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Speaker 1: after the war, so basically she got during the Battle

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Speaker 1: of Sevesto Poles, she got hit by a mortar herself

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Speaker 1: and she was evacuated. They wouldn't even evacuate the generals,

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Speaker 1: but they evacuated her via submarine back to the States,

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Speaker 1: where she went on tour with Eleanor Roosevelt to try

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Speaker 1: and get the US involved in the war, which is insane.

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Speaker 1: She went on this giant tour and the American media

501
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Speaker 1: was treating her like ship. They were asking her like

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Speaker 1: the most sexist questions like what kind of makeup did

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Speaker 1: you wear? And our you upset that your uniform makes

504
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: you look fat? And finally she had had enough and

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00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: she goes, gentlemen, I'm twenty four years old. I killed

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Speaker 1: three nine fascists. Don't you think you've had hiding behind

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Speaker 1: my skirt for long enough? Blood? Bro? Yeah, well I

508
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: condition my hair with oh, just brain matter often exactly

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Speaker 1: Like can you imagine this woman, this woman Chris Kyle's

510
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 1: numbers are nothing compared to Lose Meal with palynching, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, she was a badass, she

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Speaker 1: was scorned, bro. Trench warfare was so brutal. You know,

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Speaker 1: It's like today we do have a little more technology

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Speaker 1: with Star Wars style systems, you know, where then it

515
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Speaker 1: was like a shovel meant something Okay, grenade and if

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Speaker 1: you're looking, you had a gun, shoveling grenade, get your gun. Yeah. So, anyway,

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00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: we wrote this show and we were obviously then the

518
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: whole Ukraine recit thing popped off and I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: we're definitely not doing anything Russian sniper series now, So

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00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: that also got rugged, but intentionally we rugged ourselves on that.

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00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 1: When we're like not doing it, Oh yeah, the rug happens,

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00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: and look thankful for the military because they taught us

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Speaker 1: to just put our head down and keep going. You know, like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I've been through this before. I'm resilient, i know how

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Speaker 1: to bounce back, and I'm very grateful for that. So, like,

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Speaker 1: after that, we wrote a pilot with Jimmy Kimmel that

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Speaker 1: was actually based on Sean the Green Beret's real life.

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Speaker 1: His parents like adopted this twelve year old from the Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful story. We wrote that as well. It

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Speaker 1: didn't go to series. But after that we started Keino,

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Speaker 1: which is the company that I'm doing now, And basically

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00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: my company fights to protect the rights of artists. So basically,

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00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: you know how the studio system is not appropriately contensating people.

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Speaker 1: My goal is that we can finance films and actually

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Speaker 1: make sure that everybody sees upside. So it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: if you're a director with a giant name or a

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Speaker 1: first time p A. No matter what, you should see

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Speaker 1: a part of the back end. Because I have friends

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Speaker 1: in my and who have created for very big companies,

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00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: like a billion dollar press franchises, So they're making over

541
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: a billion dollars in value, but they're only being paid

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00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: a couple hundred thousand dollars. And while a couple hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars seems like a lot to anyone not in

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Speaker 1: l A, I'm gonna tell you right now, it doesn't

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00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: go that far here. So we launched this company that

546
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: basically helps artists paid. And you know, I look at

547
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: like some of my favorite movies, like their stunt actors

548
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: that are literally putting their lives on the line, and

549
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: then they're getting paid pennies, and that to me isn't equitable.

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00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm just like, hey, you know what, we're all building

551
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: this piece of art, this huge valuable piece of I P.

552
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: When that thing makes money, everybody should profit. And so

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00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: we created a system in which that can happen. And

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00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,479
Speaker 1: we took this Idea, pitched it to Scout for Sequoia Capital.

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00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: You know Sequoia Capital, they're backed like Uber and Google.

556
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: It's a big VC fund. But they came in and

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00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: then you know in Taft and Mirror Labs. He debled

558
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: down with his own funds and we got like Metal Web,

559
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: which is a big VC in the web three space.

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Speaker 1: They backed us as well and actually as our lead investor.

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00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: And then Slow Ventures came on board and so we

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00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: how now are a venture backed company that's financing film

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00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: and television. And what I'm doing for the general populist

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00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: like yourself, if you're a fan of film and TV

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00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: is you can actually invest in a movie and make

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00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: money when that movie makes money. Or if you're not

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00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: an investor, let's say you're a fan of Star Wars. Right,

568
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: if we were around when Star Wars was made, you

569
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: could buy Luke Skywalker's lightsaber, and then after the movies wrap,

570
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: so you can buy it before the movie is made,

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00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: after its wrap, I ship that lightsaber to you and

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00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: you have the digital proof of authenticity to prove that

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00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: that's the o G. Or if you're just a fan,

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00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: you could come out walk the red carpet behind the

575
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: cast and crew watched the premiere with everybody and then

576
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: go to a giant party afterwards. And you know, no

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00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: matter what, you also get to be a part of

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00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: a community around the TV shows that were making. Yeah,

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00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: and I understand that. I understand that completely. No, I'm

580
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: just like agreeing on your attack and approach, you know,

581
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: to be able to have the digital space covered. Who

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00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: which is cool? Which is popping off? A lot of

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00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: people still don't understand n f T S or maybe

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00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: don't understand a lot of that terminology. It's here, there's

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00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: a blockchain, and if that Star Wars Lightsaber was on

586
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: the blockchain in the beginning from the seventies and had

587
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: traded hands so many times, the original person still gets

588
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: paid for that service. So that's pretty cool. I understand that. Yeah,

589
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: that's cool. So for those of you who aren't into blockchain,

590
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: what I love is that our company is doing Web three,

591
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: but it doesn't feel like Web three because I love crypto.

592
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,239
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of the things that are

593
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: in the space, especially with n f t S and crypto,

594
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like open ponzi schemes right, Like

595
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: these are just blatant pyramid schemes. They're rugging people and

596
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: taking their money and that's not good. But the underlying

597
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: technology is going to change our world. And I am

598
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: so excited because what I see as an opportunity as

599
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: an artist is for my right to be protected and

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00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: my payout to be protected in perpetuity. So that means that,

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00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: you know, when we're raising for a film. The future

602
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: of film and television is that when I create something

603
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: and it makes money, automatically, we can make payments to

604
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: everybody that's involved so that they're making sure that they

605
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: get their cut, which is crazy because it's not how

606
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: the system works right now. No musicians should totally be

607
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: doing this. All their tickets should be done digitally okay,

608
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: because as soon as it goes up in value and

609
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: that scalper is now selling it for a thousand dollars,

610
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: they're still getting a cut of the actual event money

611
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: that's they're not getting because when a scalper sells something

612
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: to you on one of these apps or websites that

613
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: you're forced to go and look for your favorite artist

614
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: on okay, and then all of a sudden you're like,

615
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: what have did they like this? Sixty eight nine dollars seats.

616
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: How come everything's three It's because you're getting scalped, just

617
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: in a more polite way through your cell phones. And

618
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: so no longer the guy standing on the corner saying

619
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: get tickets. It's all done through your own You're laying

620
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: in bed, you're searching for that guy on those apps,

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00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: and and the artist isn't making that money. Okay, so

622
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: you think, oh, Ramstein is making a thousand dollars a ticket, No,

623
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: they're not. No. Ticketing is one of the most interesting

624
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: use cases for blockchain for me because of that, and

625
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: I think it's so brilliant that you recognize that value

626
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: so that they call it secondary market trading, right, which

627
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: is when I buy something and then I turn around

628
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: and resell it for a profit, and then every time

629
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: that that has resold, a small percentage that goes back

630
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: to the artists. And what I love is that this

631
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: is going to empower us to make a more sustainable

632
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: film and Tellivision career, because what we don't understand is

633
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: like we look at people like the Friends group, you know,

634
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: they're million dollars every year still from royalties. They're just

635
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: insane amounts of money. Even the biggest teams yeah, syndicated.

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00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: Even the biggest TV shows today, the creators and actors

637
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: are making pennies compared to what those people made. And

638
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Speaker 1: my favorite example is squid Game. Did you watch squid

639
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: Game on Netflix? Yeah, the creator of that that's a

640
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: nine hundred million dollar plus value to Netflix. The creator

641
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: of that show made a few hundred thousand dollars. And

642
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: that's saying like that, it's not actual. And if we

643
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: can create a system in which we can make sure

644
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: that people get paid in perpetuity and that it can

645
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: happen for as long as we're like watching this thing,

646
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: we're still getting value back, that's the future of every industry. Actually,

647
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: I don't think that it's just in film and TV,

648
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: or music or the arts, but this is actually blockchain

649
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: is gonna change everything. It's gonna change the way that

650
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: we do real estate because what people don't understand is

651
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: that this is really just a smart contract and an

652
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: ability for payments. So the example that I would use

653
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: is a dude, I love that bandana. It's ram I

654
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: want to buy that bandana. And so what you can

655
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: do is I can look on the blockchain and go, oh,

656
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: that's a real bandana. We can confirm that that's real.

657
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: You can confirm that my money is real, and then

658
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: we can make an automatic swap and it happens instantaneous

659
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: without the need for lawyers and banks and all those

660
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: other middlemen. Like we can actually exchange value peer to peer,

661
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: and that future of the world and it's cool because,

662
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: like all kinds of things is a medic I'm super

663
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: cited former medic. I'm super excited about what it's gonna

664
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 1: do the medical industry too, because now my data and

665
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: social media and all that ship like it's mine, and

666
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: then corporations will have to pay me to use my data.

667
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: And that's a way for us to kind of create

668
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: the universal basic income and solve some of our and

669
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: all of these other issues that we're seeing in the

670
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: world because right now the companies are taking our data

671
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: and exploiting it without even compensating us. They're getting huge

672
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: amounts of value and we don't even know that it's happening.

673
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm excited because I think that blockchain has the opportunity

674
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: to change the world, and it's beyond the n f T.

675
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: I don't even think that term is going to stick around.

676
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: And I understand that non fudgible token. As a business owner,

677
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: I sell air soft war game equipment and like replica

678
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: rifles for war games. We do a ton of that

679
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: here in Utah. I keep joking around like we should

680
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: make all of our receipts n f t s because

681
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: there's a huge used market of air soft guns that

682
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: people are buying and selling back and forth. If you

683
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: buy it for me, first of all, you're buying it

684
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: from rat at my shop, and we love the game

685
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: unless we love you. Second, it's now like kind of

686
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: like a souvenir you have of your transaction with us, right,

687
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: like getting your own shirt right here of me with

688
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: me on it. Like cool. Right, So see what I

689
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: did right there. So what I'm getting at is if

690
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: it was a digital ownership like the Lightsaber conversation, I

691
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: would always get a payout if a car dealer. I

692
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: thought for a second, I should put all my contracts

693
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: into a digital format so that if it sells to

694
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: someone else, I still get paid. Yeah, exactly. That can

695
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: happen with real estate. You can happen with so many things. Also,

696
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: this air saw things super interesting. I helped train actors

697
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: and stuff. Sometimes like our friends that are like Hey,

698
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: I've got this big role, and I'm like, great, don't

699
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: run around with the chicken wing, you know, yeah? Really yeah,

700
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: I keep it tucked in. Yeah, exactly. If you have

701
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: replica ship, we should talk. I might some stuff. I

702
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: got a Panzer Faust. Bro, how replica? You want to

703
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 1: get RPG seven replication? You want to take it apart?

704
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? I got mt N, I've got MG

705
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: thirty two's that are like tweaked out. My best friends

706
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: also my business partner Ajax just really a surgeon. I

707
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: say it all the time. I'm a physician's assistant. Bro.

708
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: When it comes to air Soft, I'm the p A.

709
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, let me see if I can holistically fix

710
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 1: your ship. Okay, oh you need surgery. You need those guys.

711
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: I think my favorite is like, hey, my gun has

712
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: a problem on the phone. I'm like yeah, and it's

713
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: not firing. I'm like, okay, so it could be the

714
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: heart or you could be choking. I can't diagnose it

715
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: over the phone, Bro, you gotta come and let me see.

716
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: Let me just telepathically. I got it. Yeah, it's an

717
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Speaker 1: M four rad what brand? I don't know? M four

718
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: I love it though, so yeah, you sent me up

719
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: and if anybody's interested, just look me up Utah air Soft.

720
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: I'm really easy to find them. I don't hi to

721
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: rather not. Yeah, I'm right here, high I do too.

722
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: I love that you do some Hollywood. I love that

723
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: you came from, you know, a tight upbringing. I'm gonna

724
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: call it where you made your way out of your situation.

725
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: And I think that perseverance to go into the military,

726
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: to become a combat medic and then come out and

727
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: go after Hollywood shows that you can transition as a

728
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: military person. I didn't have the most glorified experience in

729
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: the military myself, but I've transitioned and I've become successful.

730
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: And you know, and I know that we can keep

731
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: talking this message. You know about our friends that are

732
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: veterans and having a hard time. There's there's opportunities. You know,

733
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: We've got to chase him. Yeah. I think that it

734
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: is one of the most important things, I think for

735
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: us to recognize that the best days are still ahead

736
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: of us. And I think that one of the problems

737
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: that we have as a group. We've fallen in love

738
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: with our narrative of being a soldier. And I'm very

739
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: grateful for my experience. Don't get me wrong, but I

740
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: don't ever want to live my life looking in the

741
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: rear view mirror, right Like, if I'm always looking back

742
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: and I'm not paying attention to what's in front of me,

743
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: then life becomes very nihilistic and hopeless and that I

744
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: don't see the mission that's in front of me. And

745
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: I think, if there's any thing that I hope we

746
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: can do as a community, it's help each other look forward.

747
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: And there's some really cool programs if if you're a

748
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: veteran and you're into like film and television, check out

749
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: VAMME Veterans and Media and Entertainment vame connect dot org.

750
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: Founded by a good friend of mine, run by some

751
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: really amazing people who are friends of mine. And I

752
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: have brought a veteran onto every show that I've ever done,

753
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: whether that's in an assistant position or p A. You know,

754
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: We've tried to hire a lot of edits because I

755
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: believe in supporting the community. But yeah, this group is cool.

756
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: They give you like internship opportunities if you're into that,

757
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: if they give you like education. I actually met my

758
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: producing partner Sean through VAMME. We like came together. We

759
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: hit it off. He was the guy that was telling

760
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: about UC being groundlings highly right. It sounds like you

761
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: said he was the comedy gold. He's the guy that

762
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: brings the the comedy to the party. Yeah that's right. Yeah,

763
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: he's a lunatic, one of my favorite people to work with.

764
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: I'm just setting his expectations so when I meet him, yeah,

765
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: exactly the way up. And then when you GeTe him

766
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: and be like this guy, No, he's an awesome onmbro Exactly.

767
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: When we first started working together, we were both full

768
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: time jobs, Like I was in school working on my

769
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Speaker 1: m f A, and so we were doing the military

770
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: thing where we were up at o dark thirty writing

771
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: before he would go in and do sessions at the gym,

772
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, like in between a lunches all that kind

773
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: of stuff. And it was so great to have someone

774
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: because even though we were working so hard, he was

775
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: also that guy, especially in the military, you know who

776
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, where he's like always a little bit

777
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: too funny, you know, so even when things are very stressful,

778
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: he's cracking jokes. And I love that because it's like

779
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: life was never so serious, and you know, especially now,

780
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: it's like no lives are on the line states away.

781
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: It's your neck though that you're putting out there. So

782
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: like they say, I mentioned this often on the airplane

783
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: when they say put your mask on first for yourself

784
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: and then take care of the others. So even right there,

785
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: it's a gentle reminder to always take care of yourself

786
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: so that you could take care of others, because if

787
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: you don't take care of yourself, you're not gonna be

788
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: helped to anybody else, all right, So I love that.

789
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: So as long as you're always maintaining yourself. Now, I

790
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: know you've got a hard step off to get to

791
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: your other job. So I'll give you like the last

792
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: little bit to say whatever you have, you know, and

793
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: if there's anything you want to pitch or promote as

794
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: well on the soft Rep show here as I fixed

795
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 1: my wires in my ears. I love it, thanks totally.

796
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: The thing that I'm working on right now is KENO

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Speaker 1: k I n O app A pp dot x y Z.

798
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: We are launching film and television and you can be involved.

799
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: It's something that I'm super excited about. I'm passionate about

800
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: it because we're one we're protecting artist writes, We're making

801
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: the industry more efficient. But then we're also giving some

802
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: really cool opportunities. So if you love film and television

803
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: or you're interested in film and TV, I think definitely

804
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: check us out. My goal is to allow fans to

805
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: connect with the artists and the filmmakers that they love,

806
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: and for us to do some really cool ship together.

807
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: We're building an amazing community. Like, if you're invest through

808
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: one of our projects, you can do an a m

809
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: A with the casting crew, so you can literally like

810
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 1: come in and ask questions to the directors, actors, writers,

811
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: you can get updates from set, you can be a

812
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: part of this art that we're creating together. And we

813
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: have some really cool names that I can't legally talk

814
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: about yet. Very frustrated about that, but it's gonna be

815
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: announced soon. These are like any Golden Globe and Oscar

816
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: winning and nominated talent. It's so much fun. This industry

817
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: is insane, and I'm very grateful that I've been able

818
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: to work with some pretty incredible people. Also, right now,

819
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just give a quick shout out to Nate Boyer,

820
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: who is also a Green Beret. UH co produced a

821
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: movie with him and sliced alone and I also acted

822
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: in it. It's called m v P Emerging Vets and Players.

823
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: It's based on a nonprofit that exists here in l

824
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: A that basically helps soldiers who are transitioning out of

825
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: the military and pro athletes who are transitioning out of

826
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: their career field. You work out together and find you know,

827
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: purpose and drive moving forward. And it's amazing to me

828
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: how many, especially with the footballers, how many similar comparisons

829
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: there are with like tv I and all that stuff,

830
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: and also just needing a purpose. Yeah, I guess those

831
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: are the things that I would plug if I had

832
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 1: two minutes. Yeah, totally. That's totally cool. And I feel

833
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: like I should just open up another can of worms

834
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: with that whole Nate Boyer because you know, he's the

835
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: reason why Colin Kaepernick even takes a knee, right, is

836
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: because and met with Colin Kaepernick during the whole sit

837
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: down when he would sit down for injustice, and then

838
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: he said why and I'm just loosely quoting it before

839
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Speaker 1: we end our show. It's like, well, I just don't

840
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: know else how to do it. He's like, wants you

841
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: to take a knee for respect for the soldiers and

842
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: He's like, I can do that, and so he does

843
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: that well, and he does that. It's interesting to me

844
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: because I think it's a sign of respect, and I'm

845
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: so surprised at how the media has gotten ahold of

846
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,479
Speaker 1: that and twisted that narrative, because most people don't even

847
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 1: know that a Green Beret is the one who suggested

848
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: that he'd take a knee, and that Colin Kaepernick was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course, I'm not trying to disrespect troops. I'm happy

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Speaker 1: to take a knee for the fallen, and everybody turned

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Speaker 1: it around owned, Yeah, it is wild. I know what's up.

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Speaker 1: I know the truth. So as long as there's people

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Speaker 1: out there that know the truth, the truth will set

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Speaker 1: you free. That's Amen to that. Amen to that, my

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Speaker 1: fellow brother. Amen. Alright. So with that said, I have

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Speaker 1: had the wonderful opportunity to interview you, Darryl, and I

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Speaker 1: hope that you have much success. Thanks for not saying

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Speaker 1: my name and all those classified names. I don't mean

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Speaker 1: to leak it out right now, but thank you keeping

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Speaker 1: it keeping it classified. If you need a big Harry Viking,

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Speaker 1: you let you know where to find me. To my

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Speaker 1: listener on Software Radio, go check out what this dude's

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Speaker 1: all about, and go support your local film project and

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Speaker 1: see if you can be a grip on set and

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Speaker 1: start climbing that ladder of film basic training one on

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Speaker 1: one locally. You'd be surprised how much you'll fall in

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Speaker 1: love with it like I did. And my name is

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Speaker 1: Rad and this is another episode of Software Radio, and

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Speaker 1: I'm saying peace. You've been listening to self red Radio