Speaker 1: Look man, oh, I see you my own look over
Speaker 1: there is that culture.
Speaker 2: Yes, goodness loves culture, ding lost culturistas calling look around
Speaker 2: and how lucky we are to be alive right now.
Speaker 1: But does it feel like a brand? It feels like
Speaker 1: this is episode one and we need to take for granted.
Speaker 1: This is yeah, this is a first.
Speaker 3: This is a we have never actually had.
Speaker 1: We've never had.
Speaker 3: Therefore, we've never really had an identity this podcast one
Speaker 3: of the things. It's received critical acclaim. It's won the
Speaker 3: iHeart Podcast of the Year award twice. It's never had
Speaker 3: an identity until today.
Speaker 1: This is This is the best set I've ever been on.
Speaker 1: And then here and that includes again on the mic,
Speaker 1: this is the best that I've ever been on, and
Speaker 1: that includes Wicked. And we're also talking about the vibes.
Speaker 1: The vibes in here are better than that of Wicked.
Speaker 1: Ed work, damnrous our amazing production designer. Everyone in this room,
Speaker 1: y'all fucking tore this shit up. This is amazing. Round
Speaker 1: of applause for everybody. This is amazing. Thank you guys.
Speaker 3: In the second, we're gonna fly in the champagne. But
Speaker 3: not before we say this, there's a fridge here with
Speaker 3: the thing is we're living in a post there's a
Speaker 3: fridge era. Look what he's got. And by the way,
Speaker 3: we haven't been recording like live because we took a
Speaker 3: little break. Yes, the amount of times that Celcius has
Speaker 3: come up on this podcast.
Speaker 1: Why aren't we I face themselves. I don't think I
Speaker 1: think they're too I think they must have some exclusivity
Speaker 1: with the Theovons of the world where they we can't
Speaker 1: give those gay guys. Well, one thing I'll say is
Speaker 1: we really are giving it away for free.
Speaker 3: We are, we are, We're just And yeah, meanwhile, like
Speaker 3: we slay an ad read listen, if you write us
Speaker 3: a good if you write us a good ad.
Speaker 1: And if you if a human being writes us an ad,
Speaker 1: which is what?
Speaker 3: Which is what brings us to the topic of the episode,
Speaker 3: which is a I wait, we obviously are what is that?
Speaker 1: No. I Today this morning, Greta shows me some girl,
Speaker 1: random girl, God bless her love, random girls on the internet.
Speaker 1: Greta just goes, you need to see this. It was
Speaker 1: a girl at the beach going. I mean, can we
Speaker 1: just pause for a second how terrible data centers are
Speaker 1: and just say, please pick up your trash off the beach,
Speaker 1: and that will make things a little better. She wants
Speaker 1: to start at the very beginning.
Speaker 3: So many things we haven't figured out yet, before we
Speaker 3: move on to data centers, which is so complicated. We
Speaker 3: can all agree, pick up your trash on the beach.
Speaker 1: I she's not wrong, but she's not right.
Speaker 3: I have to tell you there are so many people
Speaker 3: out there who are so incredibly wrong whilst being incredibly right.
Speaker 3: Us we see today many times you ask for a
Speaker 3: culture catchup.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get one, and let that be the occasion.
Speaker 1: Let that be occasion. And speaking of occasions, let's fly
Speaker 1: in the flutes and the sham. It is the reason
Speaker 1: for this season. Thank you, son yous. So everyone be careful.
Speaker 1: Everyone can be careful.
Speaker 3: Make the set safe for us babies. Okay, Volve click co.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm Mariah and it's the thirtieth anniversary
Speaker 3: of Daydreams. Day dream Oh and there's an amazing thank you,
Speaker 3: thank you, sir.
Speaker 1: Love. When a handsome guy pours me shams.
Speaker 3: Well, we have to usually go to some sort of
Speaker 3: airline for that. Yeah, talk to one of those gay
Speaker 3: guys who run the show. Oh, flight attendant that's what
Speaker 3: they're that's what they're going to them to us, and
Speaker 3: to day one of this podcast, Day.
Speaker 1: One of this podcast, and that we said maybe this
Speaker 1: is the five hundred. Yes, we all, Oh, I bet
Speaker 1: we're closer to six hundred than we are five hundred
Speaker 1: at this point. So crazy. We haven't said something yet.
Speaker 1: It is. Can I say, I'm now clocking minutes into
Speaker 1: this podcast.
Speaker 3: It's so crazy that the first thing that happened that
Speaker 3: we've already cheers. And if you think we're not going
Speaker 3: to cheers again, you're deeply mistaken. You're one of the
Speaker 3: wrong people. Bowen will be starring in Oh Mary as Mary.
Speaker 1: I'm brought it cling for a third time. I don't
Speaker 1: want to talk about it now. I'm not happy to
Speaker 1: talk about it. Don't ask him about his process, you vulture.
Speaker 1: I'm happy to talk about my process. Can we though,
Speaker 1: Because I've known about this now for it's been months.
Speaker 1: It has been a very long time, and it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard not to say.
Speaker 3: That bon Yang is in Larry the I.
Speaker 1: You know, I had to like lie a bunch, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had to do the thing where people were like
Speaker 1: I heard and I'm like, oh no, it's it fell
Speaker 1: through it.
Speaker 3: Because you went as far as to say so in
Speaker 3: the reality, you confirmed it.
Speaker 1: It happened, and it fell through that because I was like,
Speaker 1: that's the best way to sort of most credible. It's
Speaker 1: the most credible because Sam put the fear of God
Speaker 1: in me. He was like, it was just such a
Speaker 1: bummer because Maya. The news about Maya leaked before we announced.
Speaker 4: And it was just a real fucking bummer. And I
Speaker 4: was like, oh.
Speaker 1: No, I better keep this under wraps. I'd been telling everyone, Yeah,
Speaker 1: how soon do about trying to figure out when you
Speaker 1: told me? It was like a week after because you
Speaker 1: were still you were in LA, Like I wanted to
Speaker 1: tell you in person, flitting off, flitting off, and god
Speaker 1: knows what what have you been doing in La? Who?
Speaker 3: We're not talking about me yet. Don't worry, guys. Soon
Speaker 3: you're getting some of me. But but okay, so you
Speaker 3: you're saying process.
Speaker 1: Process, so literally could not have happened without you? What
Speaker 1: because who do we run into at the Tony's but
Speaker 1: the queen Michelle Ranawitz.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I knew Michelle from school. She was a
Speaker 3: standout actress. She's become your acting coach.
Speaker 1: In this regard, she's.
Speaker 3: Become the the girl girl, the movement queen. She throws,
Speaker 3: she throws, she holds classes for anybody. Yes, through via Tish,
Speaker 3: I believe. Yeah, I've only ever known her as being
Speaker 3: the coolest person I've been in a room with.
Speaker 1: When I was in a room with her, and then
Speaker 1: actually we had never really met until that night. I
Speaker 1: didn't really meet her. I didn't really meet her until
Speaker 1: like the summer either.
Speaker 3: Right, And so then I am thrilled to hear I
Speaker 3: think because I told you I had this great conversation
Speaker 3: with her that you were going to work with her
Speaker 3: for oh Mary, it inspired me. Happy to inspire always,
Speaker 3: but you always do. Okay, so you've been cracking sh
Speaker 3: open or what?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: And this woman, she she gets elemental with it because
Speaker 1: I I like, I've like worked with people before, like
Speaker 1: in a in a coachy capacity, and it's been great.
Speaker 1: It's just like I walk away from them being like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I think I get it. But this i'm so in
Speaker 1: the pocket is not the right term. I just I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm neurally linked. She I am her banshee. She
Speaker 1: is my avatar, she is my driving you. But you're
Speaker 1: neurally linked.
Speaker 3: I am literally could it be a word we'll find
Speaker 3: out neurally yes, n EU that's like a startup.
Speaker 1: Y are a L L Y and e U r
Speaker 1: A L. Yeah, you got it? When are we doing
Speaker 1: an adverb? Absolutely, we're really connected. It's actually culture number three.
Speaker 1: We are connected. Who's the banshee? Who's the nav? This
Speaker 1: is so fascinating. I think I think you you are
Speaker 1: the brain. You look you look, and this is a compliment.
Speaker 1: You look like a nav.
Speaker 3: I've been told just so many times. And it came
Speaker 3: up again obviously because we did go to the world
Speaker 3: and we'll get to it again soon. Don't worry, guys,
Speaker 3: because you're gonna get a lot a little bit more
Speaker 3: of me and Disney updates, but first this, So that's all.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm so excited.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So you're neurally linked to someone who is
Speaker 3: guiding you too. Yes, to the beach in an Avatarian
Speaker 3: Navvian sense, because where they go in flight of passage,
Speaker 3: they go everywhere. They go everywhere, but everywhere, guys, in
Speaker 3: flight of passage. And we're gonna get more into it
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 1: But they go everywhere. The beach Heaven, Heaven Now and
Speaker 1: Funnily enough, she also worked with Miss Betty Gilpin, who
Speaker 1: you have to watch Widow's Bay. All I've heard is that. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I want to say two things. One, I will
Speaker 1: watch this because it's You're it's so for the Hunt's
Speaker 1: I'm incapable.
Speaker 3: Of resisting the idea of Betty Gilpin slang. You said,
Speaker 3: that's why I watched The Hunt. You said this about
Speaker 3: Lady Gaga during art pop era, when you were like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I like Gaga, but you said the words I will
Speaker 3: always be interested in what she's doing.
Speaker 1: You remember that I said that? By the way, I
Speaker 1: was like, what twenty two years old?
Speaker 3: I'm saying I will always be interested in what Lady
Speaker 3: Gaga is doing in art pop era?
Speaker 1: That means a lot? Can I say?
Speaker 3: I was recently confronted about what my top three Gaga
Speaker 3: albums were. Okay, you can't take art pop out of
Speaker 3: that top three, No way, you can't. You can try
Speaker 3: physically to attack me. I have studied the ways in
Speaker 3: which people try to wrestle art pop from a Little
Speaker 3: Monster's top three.
Speaker 1: You I won't be getting that. I think that happens anymore.
Speaker 3: Well, not anymore, but back in the day, we've had
Speaker 3: to be very vicious in our defense.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have this treatment to chromenica. I
Speaker 1: already see it starting, and.
Speaker 3: I'm not interested in having the conversation, but just know
Speaker 3: I'm learning how to defend myself against the attacks lest
Speaker 3: they come.
Speaker 1: So Widow's Bay, should they come? Should they? It was
Speaker 1: by I think you would enjoy it. I have to.
Speaker 1: I have to watch it.
Speaker 3: I will say people don't necessarily understand how sensitive I
Speaker 3: am when I say I'm sensitive because I had a
Speaker 3: what panic attack before the Hillary Dove concert because someone
Speaker 3: described to me the Perez Hilton video.
Speaker 1: Someone described it to me, which was their first mistake.
Speaker 1: I hit the ground. This was a good friend of
Speaker 1: yours who should have known not to go into detail
Speaker 1: about the Perez Hilton self music.
Speaker 3: Dave Mazzoni doesn't know better than to not do that
Speaker 3: at this point. And that's why I love Dave because
Speaker 3: he will just.
Speaker 1: Be himself no matter what. Always I love the man,
Speaker 1: love him.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 1: I know that you were a little bit stoned.
Speaker 3: Can we reveal Well, let's just say I was at
Speaker 3: one of them. I was at one of my favorite restaurants.
Speaker 1: Before seeing one of your favorite artists, before seeing our girl.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so sad. I can't go Bohen
Speaker 1: got sick. I got sick.
Speaker 3: You think Disney journeys if y'all got sick, Melissa got sick.
Speaker 3: I think there's something tactile. And I do want you
Speaker 3: to say, we're making a lot of people brave today.
Speaker 1: Born This Way Foundation. One of the things about this.
Speaker 3: At this podcast, Last culture Is says is it's one
Speaker 3: of the key elements of the Born This Way Foundation.
Speaker 1: And we've been working with Cynthia for years. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Wait, by the way, I know we're going to talk
Speaker 3: about the girls today, but I just want to say
Speaker 3: I'm having such a goga moment again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just what what what brought this on? I
Speaker 1: don't know. Can I tell you something? Watching interviews of her.
Speaker 3: You know how there's famously three eras Circus surveillance, well
Speaker 3: Christmas and then there's another.
Speaker 1: One circus surveillance and Christmas Circus surveillance Christmas and then
Speaker 1: like summer, like like summer. Sure like Zara Larson right
Speaker 1: now and maybe forever.
Speaker 3: I do think Zara Larson should be summer forever. And
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell her that when she comes, because I
Speaker 3: think she has an opportunity if she wants to be
Speaker 3: Jimmy Buffett coated and someone should take that lane.
Speaker 1: I don't want it to have to be me. No,
Speaker 1: and it should be a Swedish person.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, Zara Larson at this rate could have
Speaker 3: a Margueritaville.
Speaker 1: If she wants enough, she's she gives you. It's the seashells.
Speaker 1: It's the delectable pop. Yeah, it's the delectable. It's it's
Speaker 1: the It's like a Swedish gummy.
Speaker 3: So I guess what I'm trying to say is I
Speaker 3: just I feel like when I'm listening to God, I'm
Speaker 3: having more fun. And a lot of the girls right
Speaker 3: now are discussing in their music lyrically this is how
Speaker 3: I feel about my station in the public.
Speaker 1: Eye, authenticity, which plays into surveillance which we are now,
Speaker 1: which is bearing down on all of us.
Speaker 3: And I think it's like it's kind of like sometimes
Speaker 3: they all get the same idea but in different ways,
Speaker 3: because I think it's obviously a cultural response, and I
Speaker 3: think they're all sort of responding to comment and perception
Speaker 3: culture at the same time.
Speaker 1: It's the Taylor Charlie are are a trifecta at this moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're all at this time have recently gone about authenticity
Speaker 1: in their own individual ways. Yes, and so.
Speaker 3: Mayhem was just a moment a bit ago that we
Speaker 3: weren't doing that. I will also say this opens up
Speaker 3: a huge avenue for me to be enjoying the fuck
Speaker 3: out of confessions too, which we have not discussed on
Speaker 3: this podcast because we haven't not had the opportunity to
Speaker 3: do exactly exactly Dan Sitityria feels like a song we've
Speaker 3: always had.
Speaker 1: Well, it's Vogue New Basically, it's like, these are the
Speaker 1: names of people I love and and here we go
Speaker 1: and this was the vibe as I hope that if I.
Speaker 3: Ever run into Debbie Maysar on the third floor, that
Speaker 3: we that whatever we're doing turned into a party. Well, Debbie,
Speaker 3: I have to imagine that Debbie is a little bit
Speaker 3: like fuck now that this is what everyone's going to
Speaker 3: be saying to me for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: Do you think she's mad? Though? Where did the champagne go? You?
Speaker 1: So you brought her all the way over there? I
Speaker 1: think Debbie and Madonna have it. Really, I'm just gonna.
Speaker 1: I'm totally justicebby Mazar came up. I feel like I
Speaker 1: should have. I think I think Debbie and Madonna have
Speaker 1: such a beautiful and also complicated Thank you, thank you
Speaker 1: so much. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: We also have to talk about. Speaking of beautiful and
Speaker 3: complicated relationships with Madonna, we also have to talk about
Speaker 3: who we ran into literally the other night after a
Speaker 3: little Shop of Horrors, when we went to Yes Say
Speaker 3: It with Us.
Speaker 1: Barton Trial Rosie o'donald O'Donnell. We just ran into her.
Speaker 1: And the first thing she says to us is she
Speaker 1: looks at Matt to goes you said that nice thing
Speaker 1: about me at the Tonys. And then I grabbed and
Speaker 1: then I grabbed both.
Speaker 3: Her hands in mine both, I said, and I clutched
Speaker 3: them and I said I did, and it's because I
Speaker 3: love you so much and you should have been up there.
Speaker 3: And then she was like, she was like, you know,
Speaker 3: that was very kind. She she didn't like agree and
Speaker 3: say yeah, I should have.
Speaker 1: That did not happen. She remained graceful. I don't think
Speaker 1: she wants to be on a stage. I think she's
Speaker 1: fine with being on to watch what happens. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think she wants to be on a huge platform
Speaker 1: on display like that, so so that like the you know.
Speaker 3: The people that she's dealt with one hundred percent, I
Speaker 3: do just think sometimes and don't worry because we then
Speaker 3: quickly pivoted to how much she needs to come on
Speaker 3: the podcast, And I do think we'll have a time
Speaker 3: time with her.
Speaker 1: I think we would have a time, but I will
Speaker 1: say that.
Speaker 3: We would I think benefit from the healing moment that
Speaker 3: would be restoring Rosy O'Donnell to a place where she
Speaker 3: can entertain us and mass because I think she's one
Speaker 3: of the most important an effortless comedian slash hosts. And
Speaker 3: who really put that first part first, that we've had
Speaker 3: the privilege of being able to have access to it,
Speaker 3: and the fact that our access to her was just
Speaker 3: cut off.
Speaker 1: For me is I agree. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: the cut offness is her own choice, sure, and I
Speaker 1: don't think we should force her out into the open.
Speaker 1: It's an invitation at least to come here. Of course,
Speaker 1: although she did she did, it did surprise me and
Speaker 1: delight me that she was so flattered by your comment.
Speaker 1: First of all, and I realized you hadn't met yet,
Speaker 1: you had never never met her. So I tried, I'm like,
Speaker 1: do you know Bowen? And then she said, I believe
Speaker 1: you guys clasped both hands. I don't remember. I was
Speaker 1: blocked out as in like I was emotional. Let me
Speaker 1: correct the record. No, I was not. I was not
Speaker 1: on anything. I was just I was just I was
Speaker 1: very emotional meeting her.
Speaker 3: I for some reason knew that you would feel that way.
Speaker 3: It's Rosy, ohdonne. Not since Meredith Marks have I been
Speaker 3: so sure that you would need encouragement.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about you, what that you would need
Speaker 1: encourage that you were Rosie so overwhelmed after meeting Rosie.
Speaker 1: The rest of that, No, I I honestly like it
Speaker 1: must be the medication talking, because.
Speaker 3: I am not nervous anymore to like be like hey,
Speaker 3: like I don't know.
Speaker 1: I would have went years ago. I loved. Is that anything?
Speaker 1: It must be the medication talking. Is that anything?
Speaker 3: Jam Buffett? It's well, Jimy Buffet could never he was
Speaker 3: never un meds And I want to just respectfully, because
Speaker 3: I realized what I just did. I said, Jimmy Buffett
Speaker 3: could never. After I sang, that wasn't the way.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Buffett sang, you know what I mean, it sounds
Speaker 1: like a meat loaf, Jimmy Buffett, It's like some kind
Speaker 1: of it was kind of giving.
Speaker 3: Uh not Kenny Rodgers, but not not, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? Who sang on Zoom the Street? Yeah, Kenny Rodgers?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Why where are my Kenny Rodgers people?
Speaker 3: I'm looking at every single person in the eyes and
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, there you are, Becca Ramos, there's my
Speaker 3: Kenny Rogers.
Speaker 1: Girly. Well, I know what I knew. What I was
Speaker 1: doing was brand new. I was just asking is it anything? Like?
Speaker 1: Is it a hit?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 1: It is not a hit. Your next album is supposedly
Speaker 1: about vacation, but I think you can make it. You
Speaker 1: can sort of fold in the surprise, which is it's
Speaker 1: about being medicated. Well, I'm going to Grand Rapids for
Speaker 1: four days to see the boys actually over labor New weeks.
Speaker 1: That's so Na May Actually what punt of paper? I
Speaker 1: love that? You should go to Saga Tak what's that?
Speaker 1: I think it's the it's the epcot Oh in Dansitaria,
Speaker 1: did we talk enough about Madonna? Probably not? Probably not.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't fuck with it? Amazing, Well, I
Speaker 1: just I will. One of my favorite moments ever, I'm realizing,
Speaker 1: was just her on that German show being like, I
Speaker 1: have a problem with the fact that I that it's
Speaker 1: hot and there's no air in here. I'm suffocating, suffocating.
Speaker 1: Open the door now, it's unbelievable, I know. And the
Speaker 1: best part she says it for the end. She says
Speaker 1: it for the end, and well she goes, just give
Speaker 1: me a fan, Just give me a fan. The last line,
Speaker 1: last line is I can't even think chan through a question?
Speaker 1: Can I also say the temperature in here rocks? Rocks?
Speaker 1: Did you also change that? I love it here? Did
Speaker 1: you change everything for the better? Why am I about
Speaker 1: to burst into tears? So emotional? So so the medication
Speaker 1: is not stopping you from feeling emotion? Well yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I could still certainly still have a panic attack.
Speaker 3: The way I hit the ground to say nothing of
Speaker 3: the By the way, he is back in like thirty minutes,
Speaker 3: and I oh.
Speaker 1: Got that Hillary duff show looked amazing, Charlotte. She's saying
Speaker 1: she brought out good charing the anthem Part two, Yes,
Speaker 1: part we did bowen one that goes this is the
Speaker 1: Don't Want to Be which, by the way, I kicked
Speaker 1: off a whole couple days.
Speaker 3: Of nostalgia listening for me. I ended up listening to
Speaker 3: Yellow Card. Oh wow last night, can I just say
Speaker 3: something broken? These fragile things now?
Speaker 1: And I can't. I can't pick up the pieces. We
Speaker 1: really we had a really nice because, like we were,
Speaker 1: we were forced to listen to a bunch of different
Speaker 1: ship all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a colectic taste because it was the
Speaker 3: radio and they had it answered.
Speaker 1: A lot of people. Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, she was amazing. Why is Roommates
Speaker 3: the best song? Why is still the best song? By
Speaker 3: the way, you know who we were next to, Doug Pack.
Speaker 3: Oh just love being at a show with Doug Pack
Speaker 3: because I look over during the singing and he and
Speaker 3: he opens up his eyes to be like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Michelle Rannewitz is the Doug Pack of acting. To me,
Speaker 1: really good to have that person, which she in your life,
Speaker 1: which she legends, Who know the fucking craft? What are
Speaker 1: you most excited about doing?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 1: Oh? Mary is there? The I hired another coach actors
Speaker 1: accent Access. She's a she's a lady who lives in
Speaker 1: the UK, and for the audition, I was like, I
Speaker 1: want to go Scouse or Brummy, Birmingham or Liverpool. Got it,
Speaker 1: even though in the script does say Cockney and Sam,
Speaker 1: if you want to push back on this and rehearsal
Speaker 1: this conversation, I'm prepared to do it Scouse. I'm prepared
Speaker 1: to do it live apoo.
Speaker 3: I think that that would be good, even just from
Speaker 3: hearing you say that one word, I think it'll be good.
Speaker 1: I think you need to follow your heart because the
Speaker 1: way a Scouse person would say live about she would
Speaker 1: go rip the browses. It's like almost at Scottish. It's
Speaker 1: it's very groundskeeper Willie. Yeah, I'm excited to do that.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to do the Medley. Medley. I'm so nervous,
Speaker 1: but yes, I'm so Why you're nervous, it's just at
Speaker 1: it's just a big I mean, it's just it's closes out.
Speaker 1: I mean not to spoil, but it's just it's an
Speaker 1: amazing it is a reverie like I have to meet
Speaker 1: it at the Reverie anyway. September fifteenth through December sixth
Speaker 1: through December I will not be on October third and fourth.
Speaker 1: What's happening? Then? My dad is getting an award for
Speaker 1: engineering in Washington, d C. And I he's treating it
Speaker 1: like the biggest honor anyone's ever received in the history
Speaker 1: of the world, which it kind of is. And it
Speaker 1: will happen. And then Hannah Solo will Hanna Solo will
Speaker 1: tread the board. You're gonna get to spend so much.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. You're going to be inseparable. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm most excited about is hanging out with Hannah and
Speaker 1: like Julian and like Barrett and Philip, like everybody, Like
Speaker 1: I'm so like, that is such a great group. I
Speaker 1: went to go to I met them at dent Typhong
Speaker 1: one day because it was Seamu's last weekend, and Seemu
Speaker 1: took them all out because sim was Mary's teacher. And
Speaker 1: Seemu took them all out to Dn't Taiphong and he's
Speaker 1: a come and I was like, and that was right
Speaker 1: when I was like, I think I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: And we all ate dumplings together and they were it
Speaker 1: was just such a sweet vibe. They were like we
Speaker 1: love everything. Everyone just loves each other. It's so cute.
Speaker 1: And then they were like Meg's having a great time
Speaker 1: with them. It looks like and I mean, they're up
Speaker 1: to their antics. They're up to their antics. I do
Speaker 1: have to go see that. It always feels like.
Speaker 3: You turn the corner and there's because now they announced
Speaker 3: Lali is gonna do it, and and I was supposed to.
Speaker 3: I'm also bummed I'm not gonna be able to see
Speaker 3: Ari's tour I was.
Speaker 1: Supposed to go to. I know I'm not going anymore.
Speaker 4: Tarnut.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know she's singing some of Pedal, So shall
Speaker 3: we about Pedal? Absolutely pedal For me, it's like horny
Speaker 3: enough where it satisfies the pop star Ariana thing and like,
Speaker 3: I don't know lyrically, like is it actually this feral
Speaker 3: thing that's saying everything and going hold no holds barred no.
Speaker 1: But she the way that she kind of.
Speaker 3: Like characterizes huh her audience here, which is like that
Speaker 3: perceptive the people that are talking about her works as
Speaker 3: Ariana Grande as well, like like I do in big
Speaker 3: feelings I think are about the subject of the audience,
Speaker 3: but she's able to map them in ways that I
Speaker 3: really enjoy.
Speaker 1: Yes, arian do I think the feralness, the faral, if
Speaker 1: that's the right word, the noun, I think that is
Speaker 1: in the conception of it. But I think in the
Speaker 1: execution of the album it is like about restraints, right,
Speaker 1: she like she's gonna belt at the fucking show. She's
Speaker 1: not gonna belt, She's gonna keep it well placed in
Speaker 1: ethereal on the track, it is in conflict very purposefully
Speaker 1: with the production, as in like the noise, which is
Speaker 1: like what this album is about. It's about her versus
Speaker 1: the noise of being like one of the most like
Speaker 1: talked about people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
Speaker 1: Pretty genius, I think, and I think I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people have a lot to say about, like
Speaker 1: what is she singing about? What is she frustrated about
Speaker 1: that she's not being specific enough? But I feel like
Speaker 1: it's the specificity is all projected in that it's like
Speaker 1: already preconceived by the audience.
Speaker 3: It would feel cheap if she were to come out
Speaker 3: and be like this is this is exactly how I felt.
Speaker 3: I felt like what makes her the daughter of Mariah
Speaker 3: to me is that in retrospect, Mariah still allowed you
Speaker 3: to project a lot onto her Earlier.
Speaker 1: She never sang about exactly. She was never like Tommy's
Speaker 1: doing this.
Speaker 3: To me, it was like even in Butterfly and and
Speaker 3: all through Emancipation, even like how she was feeling about
Speaker 3: her circumstances, because Mariah just as much as Arianna was
Speaker 3: picked the fuck yeah apart and always found her craft
Speaker 3: to be her like guiding light through that. So for me,
Speaker 3: it's like the way that Arianna is also the daughter
Speaker 3: of Mariah is she's thinking about things in a more
Speaker 3: artistically and musically holistic way. Ariana Grande knows what her
Speaker 3: voice can do, just like Mariah did, and she's scaping
Speaker 3: a track like Ariana Grande is saying this is the way,
Speaker 3: because I think she's even said that her most.
Speaker 1: Her actual talent is not her voice, even though she
Speaker 1: knows it's technically special. Her real talent is her ear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, her her voice is not her only instruments, And
Speaker 3: so she's using the instruments that she has at her
Speaker 3: disposal as a producer to create this thing. And to me,
Speaker 3: it's like, that's why she's just like far and away
Speaker 3: the most technically proficient and therefore inventive pop star that
Speaker 3: we have.
Speaker 1: That's why she's on Ableton or logic or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like she's she gets she's in flow state because
Speaker 1: this is her real art, right, It is putting it
Speaker 1: is putting these sounds together. That's why, like that video
Speaker 1: goes viral of her doing positions, Yeah, where she's layering
Speaker 1: and she's like, move that back. I want to come
Speaker 1: in on that. Like it's yeah, she's she gets all
Speaker 1: galaxy brain with that. Yeah. I think that is what
Speaker 1: people are maybe not totally bringing to the four with
Speaker 1: this conversation. It's like this is all incredibly by design.
Speaker 1: She's been recording since January February. The songs are the
Speaker 1: songs are very adaptable to her and the audience, right, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to.
Speaker 3: Look back on these albums and be like able to
Speaker 3: project on them. You don't want them to feel dated
Speaker 3: or like they're trapped in time.
Speaker 1: Which, like I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't think everyone is as successful as she is
Speaker 3: when they try to tackle the perceptions and when when
Speaker 3: an artist decides okay, like right now, what I'm going
Speaker 3: to focus on is everyone else focusing on me. That
Speaker 3: is tough to accomplish because you don't always succeed in
Speaker 3: not just feeling like a total narcissist who has all
Speaker 3: these tools at their disposal, like she's creating a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff, Like I don't need to know anything about
Speaker 3: her to have sex to, like I do you know
Speaker 3: what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, I don't care. That's also I'm on the record
Speaker 1: that Positions was my fuck album of the pandemic. You've
Speaker 1: said that I don't need to know anything about everyone?
Speaker 1: Was everyone's album not like me? If you had seen me.
Speaker 1: Positions was my election album unfortunately an election and because
Speaker 1: it came out around November twenty, I mean it certainly
Speaker 1: did well. What was my election album? We all had?
Speaker 1: Everyone says song on the Summer, bitch, what's your election?
Speaker 3: That's Rettle Culture number eight. Everyone says song of the
Speaker 3: Summer bitch, what's your album of election? I mean, I
Speaker 3: will say that I've never seen such a Positions esque candidate.
Speaker 1: Then Abdula, I'll say, ed, what does that mean?
Speaker 3: What I'm saying is I think that people saying he
Speaker 3: reminds them of Obama. I think what you're saying is
Speaker 3: you would put you You are attracted to this political
Speaker 3: candidate at this moment, also inspiring and in an actual way, you.
Speaker 1: Want to take care Evan met your girl, your mitten
Speaker 1: or whatever they call it in Michigan. I think they
Speaker 1: call it. They call it all sorts of weird things.
Speaker 3: So I'm so happy to have a break from discourse
Speaker 3: where you hear this word said this way, Michigander. I
Speaker 3: don't think we have to go I don't think we're
Speaker 3: have never shade. We're about to go into an election.
Speaker 1: The primary is so aware of that. But Michigan is
Speaker 1: very and you're about to go there. I am going
Speaker 1: to go to Grand Rapids, but I'm going to see
Speaker 1: people who don't say, how are you supposed to say it?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Well, I mean, I'm not here to teach
Speaker 3: a Shakespeare acting least. I'm not Michelle urannawiz herself movement more.
Speaker 3: But I will say something like this would be nice. Michigander, Michigander, Michigander.
Speaker 1: You want to you want to be a little British
Speaker 1: inflection Madonna with it. Get me, just give me a fan,
Speaker 1: Just get me a fan, Michigan. She's a Michigan's gotta
Speaker 1: goes back to Madonna slash Michigan. It's actually real culture
Speaker 1: number six Madonna. Mischagander is a Michigan. I can't even
Speaker 1: think to answer a question, even think to answer a question.
Speaker 1: So funny, she's so funny. Okay, we have to reveal something.
Speaker 3: What We actually were supposed to host her album release
Speaker 3: party in New York and she was coming on the pod,
Speaker 3: and unfortunately it didn't work with her dates. They had
Speaker 3: to move around and we work.
Speaker 1: Because we needed a break.
Speaker 3: We were committed to having a break in July, and
Speaker 3: the break was an occasion for the set to be built.
Speaker 1: It was the reason for the season. That is the set.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, get into it. I was real.
Speaker 1: Can I scare you will feel soda the entire time
Speaker 1: we were in the black sort of liminal space, the void,
Speaker 1: the void. You were like, I don't know, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know. I think it works. It's
Speaker 1: very like anti set, Like every podcast is a set
Speaker 1: right now. I think ours. It's so refreshing that ours
Speaker 1: is just black curtains and white chairs. I never liked it,
Speaker 1: and I have to agree, but I'm always willing to
Speaker 1: try things. Gentlemen. I just I want to apologize.
Speaker 3: You don't have to apologize to me, because it's good
Speaker 3: that we tried everything. Happens for a reason. Are you
Speaker 3: is this clocking to you?
Speaker 1: You said to me after you panic attacked to the
Speaker 1: presultant moment, and then rallied for each stuff and rallied
Speaker 1: for each stuff. I was like, oh my god, are
Speaker 1: you okay? I can't believe that happened. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: You said sometimes it doesn't clock to people that I'm
Speaker 1: so sensitive, And I was kind of a bit and
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, it really doesn't clock to people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then I'm on the ground, like in Soho,
Speaker 3: fully me on the ground and Soho it took me
Speaker 3: three tries to get up. Were you all like like,
Speaker 3: I'm all because someone simply described what happened.
Speaker 1: So then it was so video It was so like
Speaker 1: a like like during the happy hour time you would
Speaker 1: described at the time as being six fifteen pm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you were on the ground and people were just kind
Speaker 1: of walking past you.
Speaker 3: They hate me in the streets, Bowen, But when they
Speaker 3: hate me in the streets, they see me coming in
Speaker 3: the streets. The streets.
Speaker 1: The streets are a little bit the streets are a
Speaker 1: little bit uh suffused with something manic right now?
Speaker 3: Oh you don't say, could it be Amazon? Like humidity,
Speaker 3: which was something I saw actually reported.
Speaker 1: Would they describe it that way? Let me also get
Speaker 1: you in to my perspective. I'm at.
Speaker 3: I get a text again at a time I would
Speaker 3: describe as six fifteen PM from my friend Alyssa.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have a random ticket that I got.
Speaker 1: I random extra ticket.
Speaker 3: To Olivia Rodrigo amazing pop up show at Warsaw in green.
Speaker 1: Point, Tiny, tiny space, tough.
Speaker 3: I go there.
Speaker 1: Olivia.
Speaker 3: You are the girl, You are the one. It was
Speaker 3: one hundred and ten degrees in the I suspect that
Speaker 3: she cut a few songs from I have a feeling
Speaker 3: because she didn't play Vampire, didn't play Vampire, and didn't
Speaker 3: play Begged, didn't play Begged and didn't play Vampire. That's
Speaker 3: not to say that the set list wasn't incredible. She's
Speaker 3: now at the point where she's got three excellent albums.
Speaker 1: Cutting the show short. Someone I was with was mad.
Speaker 3: That she chose to do making the bed instead a
Speaker 3: couple of things, and I was like, you better let
Speaker 3: that girl do making the bed.
Speaker 1: If she wants to do, let her do making the bed.
Speaker 3: Also, another thing I love about that crowd not kids, right,
Speaker 3: because you go see Olivia Rodrigo and concert and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: this kid's screaming.
Speaker 1: You never know.
Speaker 3: This was like cool Brooklyn people in their twenties and.
Speaker 1: Thirties, Warsaw Green Point. She was great. It was one
Speaker 1: hundred twenty degrees.
Speaker 3: And then I looked it up and they were like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's because temperatures are coming up from South America.
Speaker 1: Up the East coast.
Speaker 3: Like I guess there's some weather event happening where it's
Speaker 3: like bringing amazon esque humidity to New York. Like the
Speaker 3: other night it was the Amazon, was the Olivia Rodrigo concert.
Speaker 1: It was the Amazon. When I went to go see Smigadoon.
Speaker 1: If there's a place to be while there's Amazonian humidity
Speaker 1: in New York City, it's seeing a delightful showing Smigadoon.
Speaker 3: Excellent show. It was very very gagged they. I mean,
Speaker 3: they put on quite the show there.
Speaker 1: Donna. Yeah, she's kind of a lethal weapon of being
Speaker 1: funny and dull. Did and I was like, I can't believe.
Speaker 1: I'm I don't know, I'm gadd And then you talked
Speaker 1: to her after She's like, hey, how are you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she met my parents. That was a delight. I know
Speaker 1: her kids' names, Francis Ulysses.
Speaker 4: Her kids are icons.
Speaker 1: He's icon, all right.
Speaker 3: I did make a little bit of a list here
Speaker 3: so that we don't make that, okay, and let's just
Speaker 3: actually read the list as I wrote it, because I
Speaker 3: think we So we went to Disney, Yeah, and I
Speaker 3: wrote down I will literally never forget you.
Speaker 1: We went on the Kilimanjaro Safari at the Animal Kingdom,
Speaker 1: a ride that some might say you kind of do
Speaker 1: to pass the time if you're waiting for flight of passage.
Speaker 1: No anymore. I hadn't been on the Kilimanjarra Safari ride
Speaker 1: for many years. It said Disney's Animal Kingdom, Should you
Speaker 1: want to go? We were not rained down.
Speaker 3: What happened was Avatar went down, okay, And sometimes rides
Speaker 3: they go down totally.
Speaker 1: And it's not an indictment. It's just what happens sometimes
Speaker 1: with these technological marvels. And so we had to We
Speaker 1: had time.
Speaker 3: We had time are We went on the Expedition Everest.
Speaker 3: We had one friend with us, Patrick Foley. We didn't
Speaker 3: do so well on it, but the start of his
Speaker 3: arc was that was the start of his arc.
Speaker 1: By the end, he was loving life, loving on de
Speaker 1: Tron twice adored a Guardians of the Galaxy cosmic rewind
Speaker 1: yeah uh and then but then no to to wait
Speaker 1: for our time flight of passage. We went on the
Speaker 1: Kilman Dar Safari tour. Our driver and our guide. We
Speaker 1: were the luckiest people star cast member Angel throughout the
Speaker 1: entire property, literally named Angel, named Angel, saying things like
Speaker 1: I was hoping to see these girls, referring to flamingos. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was hoping these ladies. I was hoping to see
Speaker 1: these ladies or or or a group of elephants over
Speaker 1: there having a key. Look those elephants were having a key.
Speaker 1: Uh what else?
Speaker 3: And then no, there was one moment where we were
Speaker 3: we were about to start the tour, and we were
Speaker 3: kind of, you know, feeling our os. We were like
Speaker 3: excited for the not the tour safari okay, which by
Speaker 3: the way, it's actually really it's really lucture number five
Speaker 3: A Safari is animals, animals. So we finally start and
Speaker 3: before he's about to pull us into the safari area,
Speaker 3: he goes.
Speaker 1: And I can't even lie to you, I'm actually really excited.
Speaker 1: And then the best the best, and then towards the end,
Speaker 1: we see we see a wild ostridge walking alongside us, Yes,
Speaker 1: kind of like showing off. Angel says, ooh, look at
Speaker 1: her stump the runway. And then as we disembark, we
Speaker 1: were we all gave Angel a huge round of applause,
Speaker 1: huge a star.
Speaker 3: Because we also saw so many animals. It was a
Speaker 3: little overcast. We saw a lion and that the lion
Speaker 3: was crazy. The lion perched regally. We were like, this
Speaker 3: is crazy. Apparently that is the time to go if
Speaker 3: it is overcast, this vibe. There were zebra, this is
Speaker 3: this is a pillow on the new set.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with it. And I
Speaker 1: was saying it's specific to be ai, it's too like
Speaker 1: a pink zebra with like I just got horns. Can
Speaker 1: can anyone answer where this came from? Well, last dams
Speaker 1: this we have to know more about. We have to
Speaker 1: know about the artists, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean, like, we have to know more
Speaker 3: about this because it's like everything is so and there's
Speaker 3: a lot of jungle like animals here.
Speaker 1: It's kind of giving the kill I wanted the panther.
Speaker 1: I requested a pan Yes, yes, what about her? This
Speaker 1: is a monkey that's a monkey. Yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of animals. Oh there's a whale tail, whale tail, my responsible.
Speaker 3: Way and then obviously these okay so anyway, so okay.
Speaker 1: So then as we disembark, yeah, we applaud Angel, we
Speaker 1: say we love you Angel. Amazing job, amazing. That is
Speaker 1: the time to go on the kilman Jar safaris when
Speaker 1: it's overcast because animals are out. Angel says these words,
Speaker 1: I will literally never forget you. I will literally never
Speaker 1: forget you. And I was like, that is It's just
Speaker 1: like an ear hit for the ages. I went on
Speaker 1: the Disney app. I left a great comment and I
Speaker 1: left a comment I commend it. I had never done
Speaker 1: this before in my life. Angel. If you're listening, anyone
Speaker 1: who works at WDW, please send this long to angela
Speaker 1: animal kingdom.
Speaker 3: You have to like if you get Angel driving your safari,
Speaker 3: know that you will literally never forget them. And I
Speaker 3: also want to say thank you to what we went
Speaker 3: there and imagine we met imagineering, Imagine we did the rock.
Speaker 1: And roller coaster starring the Muppets, so we are. The
Speaker 1: occasion for going was after we had a after it
Speaker 1: was our honor to host Miss Piggy at the Culture
Speaker 1: Awards to promote Hour. The honor was ours to promote
Speaker 1: the Rock and Roller Coaster starring the Muppets. Disney Imagineering
Speaker 1: invited us to the parks they did and then gave
Speaker 1: us an amazing experience.
Speaker 3: We did do the Rock and Roller Coaster fabulous and
Speaker 3: it was fabulous. I I we had one thing after,
Speaker 3: which was where was Miss Piggy? But she found out
Speaker 3: she's in the pre show. That she's in the pre show,
Speaker 3: you get a different pre show. Our pre show featured Kermit.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I was happy to see him as very
Speaker 1: happy to see Kermat. And don't worry because this is
Speaker 1: why you do repeat ridings. This is why do you
Speaker 1: repeat writings. That's how you get Miss Piggy. And I
Speaker 1: have to say, Kermit is dressed in a hoodie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Kurment loutt in it. Kurmi not me thinking Kermit was hot.
Speaker 1: Watching the pre show of Rock and Roller Coaster.
Speaker 3: Starring the Uppets, and then Kermit comes up and you're like.
Speaker 1: Interested Kermit, and I was. I was kind of like,
Speaker 1: kind of you know, who kind of gives Kermit phrase phrase?
Speaker 1: Oh kind of gave Kermit?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean like like in so
Speaker 3: many ways, in all the best ways, really sweet, so sweet,
Speaker 3: I know, a little slip of a thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's kermit, he's kind of hi. Yeah, Hi, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all good there by the way.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: It was just literally, isn't open up the phone? When
Speaker 1: will I see you next? Never? Well, You're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: isn't there say in our thirties, isn't there nothing better
Speaker 1: than like an amicable separation.
Speaker 3: There is no room for anything but that yeah thing. Well,
Speaker 3: and it would bum me out so much no to
Speaker 3: have like that go down again. But I will say
Speaker 3: I'm definitely dating again because I went out the other.
Speaker 1: Night and I don't like this guy. Well, I had
Speaker 1: one of the it was one of the.
Speaker 3: Worst kisses in recorded history, and it did happen in
Speaker 3: Central Park. And he also did that little bit of
Speaker 3: a little bit of a thing and lovely guy, yeah,
Speaker 3: but little bit of a thing where there was like
Speaker 3: some weird, little choking hands on and I was like,
Speaker 3: it was just like dating in New York. Sometimes you
Speaker 3: die in Central Park. I wanted this lifestyle move back,
Speaker 3: that Carrie Bradshaw lifestyle. Sometimes you're just getting a little
Speaker 3: choked out and a choke on the park itself, a
Speaker 3: choke on the first kiss is really wild, which was
Speaker 3: going bad bad? I mean, no, no, no, don't worry.
Speaker 3: It was it was in a place in Central Park
Speaker 3: that was extremely private.
Speaker 1: No one would have known if I had died, right,
Speaker 1: And he did say he did that thing that sometimes
Speaker 1: happens when when you're on a date, when you're let's
Speaker 1: say Matt Rogers or someone with a podcast, he goes
Speaker 1: and I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan.
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, okay, because I did have
Speaker 3: to ask, because I did one time go on a date.
Speaker 3: I was dating someone about.
Speaker 1: Six states in was like I'm obsessed with it. Was like,
Speaker 1: I actually have to tell you something. I'm a huge
Speaker 1: until I have said so many things.
Speaker 3: It's not like with you where it's like you're Bow
Speaker 3: and Yang and so they know who you are, Like
Speaker 3: I occupy a different tier, which is like they may not.
Speaker 3: So when I'm on a date with someone having a
Speaker 3: nice time, I do sometimes I'm like, can I just
Speaker 3: ask you, like what is the familiarity with me?
Speaker 1: Because I believe anything totally.
Speaker 3: And he let me know that he was not a
Speaker 3: fan and that I was like as a sealless celebrity,
Speaker 3: I kind of have to ask and he and I
Speaker 3: didn't know if it was a joke or not, Like
Speaker 3: I would say, you're more dalist and.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's his way.
Speaker 3: But for me, I think it was like a way
Speaker 3: of flirting.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, oh, maybe that's funny. But
Speaker 1: then minutes later I would have a terrible kiss and
Speaker 1: be getting choked, So it's like for the maybe that's funny,
Speaker 1: Like that's don't worry. I hung out with him for
Speaker 1: two more hours. No, you're so bad. There's literally and
Speaker 1: Celeste said this when you were telling us this over
Speaker 1: drinks the other night. They were like, you can't just
Speaker 1: like end the day early, just be like I gotta go.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you something. I wasn't having like a
Speaker 1: bad time.
Speaker 3: Totally, but it doesn't need to be a bad time
Speaker 3: for it to be like this is this is a
Speaker 3: waste of time. I didn't even think it was a
Speaker 3: waste of time, you know what it was like. It's like,
Speaker 3: you know when you're on a date with someone and
Speaker 3: you're like, this is weird, but it could become suddenly
Speaker 3: hot at any moment, which usually just means let me
Speaker 3: drink more, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It usually just means like, maybe what I should do
Speaker 1: is just wait this out and see if it gets interesting.
Speaker 3: Aka, I get drunk, right, and then I remembered, oh right,
Speaker 3: I'm thirty six, not twenty six, despite the fact that
Speaker 3: everyone on every dating app is twenty.
Speaker 1: Six, so you can change your age range.
Speaker 3: Got to figure out how to do that, I guess, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: because definitely, certainly most stuff I'm seeing all twenty six
Speaker 3: year olds.
Speaker 1: And they're all in private equity. Which did you hear?
Speaker 1: Is the hot new accessory this.
Speaker 3: Summer a private equity boy hot new hot new accessity necessity,
Speaker 3: hot new access so re oh like, is.
Speaker 1: Of course the private equity boyfriend. I love that. Love
Speaker 1: what they do, which is to kind of drive down value.
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's like a rite of passage to
Speaker 3: tell everyone what you stand for and then go opposite
Speaker 3: all of that Because of Dick.
Speaker 1: It happens all the time. Yeah, and I think we
Speaker 1: should allow people to do it once, maybe twice, depending
Speaker 1: on they can do it a couple times. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: get to do it, You get to be like, you
Speaker 1: get to be Laverne Cox. You get to date a
Speaker 1: cop just to try it. Yeah, you know, I completely
Speaker 1: understand that thing of being attracted to She didn't did
Speaker 1: a cop, she just diated a mega person. Well I
Speaker 1: thought she did it a maga cop. Yeah, yeah, okay. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it was both okay, okay.
Speaker 3: I get being attracted to something you absolutely should not
Speaker 3: attracted to, and it must suck to be in the
Speaker 3: public eye and also have that like thing where you
Speaker 3: don't want to shut down your life or you don't
Speaker 3: want to you know, and then all of saiden like, uh, yeah,
Speaker 3: you made that mistake you're supposed to make in private,
Speaker 3: You fucked that person you're supposed to be fucking.
Speaker 1: This is then you're in public, so now you're kind
Speaker 1: of This is what I'm saying. This is the authenticity trap.
Speaker 1: And people who listen to this podcast love that word.
Speaker 1: It's it's giving surveillance day, Like, hold on, why the
Speaker 1: fuck am I supposed to like? It's it's fear of
Speaker 1: being It's the anxiety of being seen. It's like, which
Speaker 1: we're all sort of like, it's like, reject all cookies.
Speaker 1: Reject all cookies, because to be seen is to be judged,
Speaker 1: which is to be you know, perceived and then understood
Speaker 1: as being something that didn't and most likely it's it's
Speaker 1: a misunderstanding, right, So anyway.
Speaker 3: That's interesting to even think about the fact that like
Speaker 3: that's what everyone, it feels like, is talking about right
Speaker 3: now in art, because I do feel like all the like,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like even in a weird
Speaker 3: way in films, like with like Disclosure Day stuff, it's
Speaker 3: like it's like if people knew everything.
Speaker 1: This isn't exactly a good one to one, but it
Speaker 1: is like no, no, no, it's pretty applicable.
Speaker 3: It's about how people might feel if they had the
Speaker 3: real or the right information. And it's like that's kind
Speaker 3: of interesting in our culture that that's even such a topic.
Speaker 3: It's like we know this and you know this, and
Speaker 3: that is the tension that every that exists in everything
Speaker 3: is it's like, you know, this lack of understanding.
Speaker 1: Despite almost total knowledge or not almost total, but just
Speaker 1: like a set of facts that like people, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen the movie me neither, can I tell you what's
Speaker 1: driving me?
Speaker 3: Actually it was gonna be my I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 3: Maybe it still will be.
Speaker 1: When people talk about someone's when people talk about someone's
Speaker 1: face acting. That's oh my god, DA's face acting. Zendia's
Speaker 1: face acting in this scene was amazing. Do you in
Speaker 1: her acting?
Speaker 3: What her face acting like when someone like because it
Speaker 3: just came disclosure day. At the end, the reporter, yes,
Speaker 3: everyone's Gaga slays down and they're like.
Speaker 1: Her face acting was some of the best face acting
Speaker 1: I'd ever seen.
Speaker 3: And I was like, guys, what she's also acting with
Speaker 3: her body remain still in this moment?
Speaker 1: You mean nonverbal which is slag? I don't know it.
Speaker 3: I guess yeah, yeah, Maybe what they're trying to say
Speaker 3: is her silent performance, what she did with just her
Speaker 3: eyes or what she conveyed in this Her face acting suggests.
Speaker 1: A removal from the physical.
Speaker 3: Body, suggests like an absence of anything facial. During dialogue,
Speaker 3: correct the moondobo. Correct a moondobo, trying it out.
Speaker 1: I like it, correct a mundo bo. How about this?
Speaker 1: It's going to be oh you quinn bow Mary? Mary? Yeah,
Speaker 1: okay go.
Speaker 3: After we recorded this episode, Troy Sevonne is coming in
Speaker 3: to talk about all sorts of things, and yeah, we
Speaker 3: should drop correct a mundo into the episode.
Speaker 1: Correct until he calls it out. We should call him
Speaker 1: trow until he calls it out. You want to call
Speaker 1: him trow, I'll call him Troe.
Speaker 3: You you you here's what we're gonna do, and you
Speaker 3: guys can see you next week. If it panned out,
Speaker 3: you try calling him troll like a bunch and see
Speaker 3: when he when he calls it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet, I bet about the first person, and I.
Speaker 3: Will say correct a Mundo until he calls it out,
Speaker 3: and then if he's able to by the end of
Speaker 3: the episode, and please keep us honest here, Beca, can
Speaker 3: you keep us honest about this? We will say so
Speaker 3: there was actually a hidden game happening during the episode,
Speaker 3: and we've never done this al maskulch and what was
Speaker 3: weird about the episode? And if he says like he'll
Speaker 3: me Troe and you were saying correct a mundo, that's
Speaker 3: really good.
Speaker 1: And I actually want to try something with him that
Speaker 1: we should start on this episode three Way three Way Phil,
Speaker 1: the Rush to the Crash. We need to start queer handshake,
Speaker 1: the official queer handshake. What will it look like? So
Speaker 1: we should start the first move, so this and then
Speaker 1: what's after that you and I established and then he
Speaker 1: adds on, okay, cool, should we start right now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what should it be? Okay, so it'll be like you
Speaker 1: want to start wide? Okay, so that's the first one first, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: and then after that, oh, I have an idea, yeah,
Speaker 1: pull it back. Okay, great, so starting wide? Yeah, like
Speaker 1: that's great. There's ah. So then like I think we
Speaker 1: build the handshake with select guests. Oh my god. Perfect. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Troy is next week spiking honey, spiking honey. That
Speaker 1: will be good. That will be good. And then I
Speaker 1: think we'll go from there. And we'll go from there.
Speaker 3: We just don't want to say because this the next
Speaker 3: person is not confirmed confirmed, right, But sometimes that's a
Speaker 3: way to confirm confirm is to say it live on
Speaker 3: the podcast so.
Speaker 1: That people feel bullied. You lost culture? Is this I
Speaker 1: need to We need to talk about five Star Weekend?
Speaker 1: Is that the thing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just another reason to get emotional today because
Speaker 3: it wasn't on the list and.
Speaker 1: I'm realizing how wrong that was. Because wrong.
Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, we need to talk about the Five
Speaker 3: Star Weekend, a show whose podcast I also listened to.
Speaker 1: The official I Love that You. That's a rule of
Speaker 1: if you you fucking love a show, if you're listening
Speaker 1: to the podcast of it. That's a real of culture.
Speaker 1: Number seventy eight. You fucking love a show if you're
Speaker 1: listening to the podcast of it.
Speaker 3: I listened to Chloe seventy You get interviewed about actually
Speaker 3: her surprising ties to Nantucket. Really yeah, people don't think
Speaker 3: that Chloe seven ye is to Nantugi.
Speaker 1: But she actually has very surprise. She's a coast crew
Speaker 1: I think you. I think if you're if you're an
Speaker 1: ewe coaster, you've got you've you've visited INTI can I
Speaker 1: say something that's not true as an East Coaster league,
Speaker 1: not everyone has the ties surprising that you've been to Nantucket.
Speaker 3: You would be surprised that the ties that she has
Speaker 3: to Nantucket, which made her want to participate in the show,
Speaker 3: which her fans have been surprised to see her.
Speaker 1: No literally, as a fan, I am, I was surprised
Speaker 1: and delighted that she played a towny so well. Uh,
Speaker 1: Chloe sevan Y as a as a masshole towny so fun.
Speaker 1: It's really good.
Speaker 3: And she's also not because she's like refined in Nantucket.
Speaker 3: She she she's not a masshole.
Speaker 1: I was I was being an asshole when I said
Speaker 1: that a masshole in New York. Wait, okay, I just
Speaker 1: did Colin Bedell's podcast, all of his astrology content. I've
Speaker 1: been following for years and he's starting any podcasts and
Speaker 1: they were like, would you do? I was like, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm such a fan. I mean I did over the weekend.
Speaker 1: He read me down, didn't read me. He really got it.
Speaker 1: He's he's so said he was.
Speaker 3: He's just he's always so fun and smart and I
Speaker 3: and I said to him, I was like, this is
Speaker 3: what I know to be true about you Long Islanders
Speaker 3: and from my eternal bond with Matt Rogers, you guys
Speaker 3: are some of the smartest people on the planet. You
Speaker 3: have but it's rooted in a working class sort of
Speaker 3: like hey, like you know, how are you? It's like,
Speaker 3: but it's it's it's intelligent.
Speaker 1: I would say I will be dangerous to tell a
Speaker 1: lot of Long Islanders right now that they are the
Speaker 1: smartest people in the world, because I do think that
Speaker 1: one of the symptoms of being a Long Islander is
Speaker 1: you tell yourself that all the time and look, how
Speaker 1: look how far it's gotten you. Yeah, I left long ago,
Speaker 1: and but you sure talk about it a lot I don't.
Speaker 3: Even think I brought it up today. Maybe even the
Speaker 3: Rosie conversations she also brought up. She asked me the
Speaker 3: classic Long of the question, which was what exeter are you?
Speaker 3: Can I tell you something?
Speaker 1: I actually don't know that answer.
Speaker 3: You, but it feels like a litmus test for Long Islanders.
Speaker 3: You used to know because when they asked that question,
Speaker 3: they mean on the Long Island Expressway.
Speaker 1: And I a driver you went driving down the expressway
Speaker 1: was not really that girl. He was using it for
Speaker 1: that type of commuter.
Speaker 3: So I would use Sunrise Highway so I can tell
Speaker 3: you Sunrise Highway I think was like forty four, forty five,
Speaker 3: forty six.
Speaker 1: Oh, just say one of his numbers.
Speaker 3: Well that's what I explained to her at the time.
Speaker 3: But think and I was like, why is my conversation
Speaker 3: with Rosie O'Donnell about excess?
Speaker 1: She asked, She asked you, I guess because she asked me,
Speaker 1: which is a Long Island way of asking. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: asking you a question, a question. That's what Colin's like,
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you, I gotta ask you, Let me
Speaker 1: ask you, let me ask you anyway. Sorry, No, five
Speaker 1: Star week a weekend we wanted to talk about it.
Speaker 1: Darcy Cardon, can I say she's the heart of the
Speaker 1: the heart of the show base acting down it was
Speaker 1: some of the best face acting of the base best
Speaker 1: face acting. Yeah, Oh my god. And Jay Gardner and
Speaker 1: reuniting with them. What's his face did? Were they in
Speaker 1: a movie together? The Gardner Jennifer Gardner. Oh, Jennifer Gardner,
Speaker 1: reuniting with with the one and only Timothy Old who
Speaker 1: still swing in Dicta walks in. It's just such a
Speaker 1: what an eternal hotty. Oh, eternal Jennifer Gardner, eternal Hall
Speaker 1: Gina loving my life whenever she's I love my life.
Speaker 1: I love my life with Jemma chan I love my
Speaker 1: life with Darcy Carden. They're doing a second season of
Speaker 1: The Five Story, which is which.
Speaker 3: Is the best news we heard it's actually gonna be nominated.
Speaker 3: Well then they'll be like, oh, they only nominated it
Speaker 3: to promote it, But it's like, I'm sorry. Sometimes we
Speaker 3: really do love things on Peacock. As much as we
Speaker 3: say and can.
Speaker 1: I say something, we would have no reason to candidly
Speaker 1: like we have. We're still the same fans as we were.
Speaker 1: We're still normal people out here who love who love Peacock.
Speaker 3: We don't have the allegiances that are perceived out there
Speaker 3: to Peacock. We just thought at yeah, the best little creature.
Speaker 3: One of the nominees was the miniature wife.
Speaker 1: Now, I do want to say a thing that really
Speaker 1: got me through yesterday. Yesterday I had like a just
Speaker 1: a languid day Sunday as fuck. Everyone did I know
Speaker 1: the vibes.
Speaker 3: We were sort of talking about hanging out and everyone
Speaker 3: was like.
Speaker 1: I've been watching I need to I've been telling myself
Speaker 1: I need to go on like a Lisa Renna day
Speaker 1: one journey. Really, so I remember watching her first season
Speaker 1: in bits and pieces. I want to watch it all
Speaker 1: the way through, beginning of the beginning of Lisa Rinna
Speaker 1: Era to end, and as in her enemies on that show,
Speaker 1: I was I'm I'm Renna all the way. I'm Team
Speaker 1: Renna all the way because I because I because I
Speaker 1: see her on my screen and I light up. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, she's one question that she is would cause anyone, yes,
Speaker 3: stimulus in seeing her on this show towards the end.
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see what you.
Speaker 1: Yes, Well, I was there towards the end the whole
Speaker 1: Kathy Hilton thing, and I'm like, whatever, there's there's stuff
Speaker 1: about I mean, there's that that whole that whole side
Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills.
Speaker 3: To me is like like sometimes it's good to root
Speaker 3: for the villains, though sometimes sometimes are the ones.
Speaker 1: There's nothing better than a good reality team. And I
Speaker 1: don't want to call Renna a villain because she's just.
Speaker 1: She was just being her authentic self. And can I
Speaker 1: just say episode one, the first couple episodes of Rinna
Speaker 1: just sums her all up. She's just like, I'm an entertainer.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm an entertainer, an actor. I don't know
Speaker 1: what to call myself. She is an entertainer. And you
Speaker 1: know when she and Eileen sit down for lunch, like
Speaker 1: can they cut back to like old episodes of Days
Speaker 1: of Our Lives where it's just like, God, Lisa, Renna
Speaker 1: is just and she she's like and I'm not ashamed
Speaker 1: of anything, which explains everything about her in terms of
Speaker 1: her like going to all these like runway events, her
Speaker 1: dressing up like full on committed to the new like,
Speaker 1: but it's like she is she is a true entertainer
Speaker 1: in the sense she is interested in what is on
Speaker 1: the front line, and she will commit in the way
Speaker 1: that she has committed for us at the Culture Wards.
Speaker 1: I just I just love her, and I think she
Speaker 1: would be an excellent Mary Todd.
Speaker 3: You know, I think that they would be fools because
Speaker 3: the only way they can top you.
Speaker 1: No, They've got plenty of people is to bring after that,
Speaker 1: what's on the list? Confront ourselves. Why haven't we seen
Speaker 1: the Odyssey? Well, we've been on record as saying that, like,
Speaker 1: we love Nolan, we just we just we It's it's
Speaker 1: just been I was, I do want to see it
Speaker 1: in imax, and it's still really hard to get a ticket.
Speaker 1: I can't say where I was shooting. You're shooting Missus Smith,
Speaker 1: and I think that's where my NDA begins.
Speaker 3: So I can't say where I was.
Speaker 1: But I was in a place where it was not accessible.
Speaker 3: I could not go to a theater in the way
Speaker 3: that I had been told I must see the film.
Speaker 3: So when all of the narrative is like we shot
Speaker 3: this on imax, you must see it in this in
Speaker 3: this way, like this is and then it's hard to
Speaker 3: do that. It's kind of like, Okay, I'll get to
Speaker 3: it later to market, and then I couldn't hear the
Speaker 3: dialogue at all.
Speaker 1: I just could not hear it.
Speaker 3: And and then now I'm happy that everyone is, you know,
Speaker 3: revisiting two things in culture Interstellar and see XO XO,
Speaker 3: and I'll talk about that in a second Interstellar and
Speaker 3: they're like, oh, Interstellar is the best Nolan, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I would have.
Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people feel that that's well, that's
Speaker 1: just because people are because they haven't. They're over, They're
Speaker 1: over saying it's the Dark Knight, even though it is.
Speaker 1: It is like I understand it will always be the
Speaker 1: dark name, right.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, people that like, you know, I'm one
Speaker 3: of these people. But it's the way that people feel
Speaker 3: about like chocolate chips and oldmeal raisin. It's like you
Speaker 3: can say oldmeal raisin is your favorite, but which it
Speaker 3: is yours?
Speaker 1: It is mine? I know this doesn't really work. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's it's like pepsi and coke. It's like Coca Cola
Speaker 1: is the girl. You know what I'm saying. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh I love Wendy's. It's like, no, you like McDonald's.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like you think you're gonna get your
Speaker 1: Cinophile card revoked because you didn't want I do the odyssey.
Speaker 3: To see the odyssey, I think we have to.
Speaker 1: Actually, this will this will be me. I don't think so, honey. Well, sinophilia, I.
Speaker 3: Don't think so, honey. Cinophilia is really good because the
Speaker 3: goalposts they move. Here's what I said the QVC woman.
Speaker 1: Let's not lose sight of her. Tony. We know, we
Speaker 1: know her name, and can we remember it, Tony? Remember
Speaker 1: Tony is going on fallon today when we're what it's
Speaker 1: such a phenomenon. And the and then the way she
Speaker 1: was posting on her own ocean media is I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be unfound. And it's just not a picture of her
Speaker 1: face at the back of her head. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: and thank god that her back of her head is
Speaker 1: so but I'm gonna say it ridiculous. That's such a
Speaker 1: perfect example which you've learned at this point, yeah, and
Speaker 1: known for a while, which is the art of that
Speaker 1: job is just to keep talking. And here's what. So,
Speaker 1: here's what's going on right now. And this haircut is
Speaker 1: just reminding me of a time when my mom cut
Speaker 1: my hair. Stop sell me those matches. Now these men,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Well now I'm on the spot. Do it. No,
Speaker 1: you go.
Speaker 3: I have found and this is gonna be something that
Speaker 3: happens with everyone out there, whether you're lighting incense because
Speaker 3: you've had a really stressful day, whether or not, and hey,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna tell anyone here, but you like to
Speaker 3: enjoy a little in the words of Brittany Murphy and
Speaker 3: my favorite movie Herbal Refreshment, or if you just.
Speaker 1: Want to light one of the any candles that we've
Speaker 1: spoken about on this very day, you need matches. These
Speaker 1: are amazing. So and what I love about matches They're
Speaker 1: like little paintings, they really are.
Speaker 3: And I love that every single one has a beautiful
Speaker 3: visual identity. So you can trade them, you know, for example,
Speaker 3: like if you had one in there and I wanted it,
Speaker 3: it has the value and that is the sharing, Yes,
Speaker 3: the exchange, because we all need a light of fire.
Speaker 3: And I'm talking about physically as well as metaphorically bowing.
Speaker 1: And here's what's happening, and this is not a metaphor.
Speaker 1: We are selling five match books. You're gonna love this
Speaker 1: for twenty five dollars. That's a five dollar per match
Speaker 1: but value, that's a steal.
Speaker 3: Know what you're saying that sounds like far too much.
Speaker 3: This person does not have a grasp on people's economic reality.
Speaker 1: These are luxury items. No, no, and you think you
Speaker 1: think that being loose seal blue, that's very funny. Excuse you.
Speaker 3: I know exactly why you say that, because why what
Speaker 3: makes these different? These are matchbooks from the first day
Speaker 3: of Lost Coulach having a new set, and that's not
Speaker 3: just something but everything. And let's just talk about this
Speaker 3: set for a second, because I think this is the
Speaker 3: best compliment I can give a room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to take a nap in here.
Speaker 3: I want to take a nap in here. And you
Speaker 3: know what ties it all together is a beautiful centerpiece.
Speaker 3: And no one thinks. No one thinks they're going to
Speaker 3: have enough match books for a whole centerpiece. That's because
Speaker 3: you're not thinking about them as collectibles. These are special
Speaker 3: and you're collecting hearts. I'm collecting hearts because you want
Speaker 3: to know what people And I'm gonna get vulnerable here.
Speaker 3: They relate to me, and they relate to me because
Speaker 3: they know that I need a light in the dark
Speaker 3: sometimes too. And that's why I have a whole little
Speaker 3: centerpiece full of matches right here, bo, it's time for
Speaker 3: I don't think so, honey, anything else on the list
Speaker 3: that you want to talk about.
Speaker 1: We actually kind of.
Speaker 3: Got through everything, really yeah, in a really exciting way,
Speaker 3: except this one thing that I want to sort of
Speaker 3: get into even more.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, this is fabulous. This is yes, Matt Rogers,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. As time starts now, I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. Oh you're just getting into see xoxo.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: Some of us have been having a great time.
Speaker 3: Some of us have been having a lot of fun,
Speaker 3: including I'm telling you this right now, some of the
Speaker 3: hottest gaze on Instagram DM respond. Whenever I put up
Speaker 3: a flare that I like Camilla ceexoxo because I have taste, people.
Speaker 1: Respond and they are some of the most beautiful men
Speaker 1: in the world.
Speaker 3: That's so beautiful, Camila, congratulations on that thirty seconds. And
Speaker 3: it's not the only album that people have just totally like,
Speaker 3: you know, taken.
Speaker 1: And just thrown away.
Speaker 3: But it is the album of the moment, and I'm
Speaker 3: willing to say it right now. See Xoxo is the
Speaker 3: album of the moment twenty six and that is not
Speaker 3: to take away from what I believe to be the
Speaker 3: actual album of the year. And I'm just going to
Speaker 3: say this because I don't want to be totally frivolous.
Speaker 3: Worlds Girl in America, Isolator second Best New Artist Narrative.
Speaker 1: We need it, we love it.
Speaker 3: But ce xoxo. I guess welcome home everyone. Like I said,
Speaker 3: the water's really warm, it's Miami.
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. Cute girl in a sick mind?
Speaker 3: I text Bowen and Jared all the time. I'll just
Speaker 3: I'll just text the xoxo.
Speaker 1: Or or there was a time when your vocal stem
Speaker 1: was cute girl with a sick mind, girl a sick mind?
Speaker 1: What's your current stem? Oh? You stimming I'm stimming on.
Speaker 1: I can't even think to answer a question or just
Speaker 1: give me a fan or no, I'm suffocating. Open the
Speaker 1: door now.
Speaker 3: Well there's a lot to stem on in inn as well.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I don't not okay, I don't
Speaker 1: fuck with it.
Speaker 4: People think the dance floor is.
Speaker 1: Frivolous. To know what she say? She says. She says,
Speaker 1: safety and numbers, Safety in.
Speaker 4: Numbers, thanks for coming, Thanks for coming.
Speaker 1: I love whatever register she's in right now.
Speaker 4: It's amazing.
Speaker 1: I love Madonna, love so much. She's invented everything, much
Speaker 1: like Peaches. Josh Sharp and I say Peaches invented everything.
Speaker 1: Madonna also invented everything, obviously in a more obvious way.
Speaker 1: But Peaches did invent everything started out. You don't get
Speaker 1: Slater without Peaches. You don't Getkesha without Peaches. You don't
Speaker 1: get all these things without peachaes Okay, you don't get.
Speaker 3: I don't think so Honey without bowing Yang. This is
Speaker 3: this is I'm just gonna you know, I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: raff let them cook. One of the top phrases of
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: Give him ten, give me ten. Remember this one? That
Speaker 1: was a good one.
Speaker 3: All right, This is bowen Yang's. I don't think so
Speaker 3: Honey's time stressed Now, I don't think so honey. Cinephilia,
Speaker 3: Let's just say you love movies. You don't have to
Speaker 3: have a whole.
Speaker 1: Sharpness around it. You make it seem uninviting, you make
Speaker 1: it seem like it's a closed conversation. Right, It's like
Speaker 1: now everyone is like out here being like this is
Speaker 1: what your letterbox top four should be. There should be
Speaker 1: one little silly what it's like. No no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, there's no should With Film thirty seven. You
Speaker 1: should watch it is film is sculpted time. You should
Speaker 1: just enjoy the sculptures that you like. You should like
Speaker 1: the shapes that you like, and that can be anything.
Speaker 1: But there is this thing, like God, I'll never forget.
Speaker 1: I had the honor of going to the Criterion closet
Speaker 1: and I made the mistake of reading the comments, and
Speaker 1: it's just people being like, well, yo, everyone loves Paris, Texas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I fucking love it too. So then what am
Speaker 1: I supposed to do not acknowledge it, say that I
Speaker 1: don't love it, because then when I say that I do,
Speaker 1: it's like you're damned if you do, you damned if
Speaker 1: you don't. I just like all kinds of movies, the Prestigie,
Speaker 1: the Janis film Z and the fucking Disney Pixar, I suppose,
Speaker 1: And I don't know. Let's just let's just everybody not
Speaker 1: too much on the that's one minute plus I will
Speaker 1: say it is.
Speaker 3: It's it wasn't a time a thing where it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: you've described yourself as a cinephile.
Speaker 1: That means you have an interest that I might be
Speaker 1: able to, but now it's like engage with Now it's
Speaker 1: like you're not like, oh the that like you're it's
Speaker 1: it's it's stolen valor or something. And I just a
Speaker 1: sinophilia and I'm I'm just like I thought, I thought
Speaker 1: everyone just loved movies, different kinds of movies. But it's
Speaker 1: like I can be like, yeah, I'm kind of whatever
Speaker 1: on Nolan. Yeah, and apparently that's like a crazy take.
Speaker 3: Well, when when someone's artistic output is pretty much expected
Speaker 3: to be something specific, people can make value judgment totally.
Speaker 1: And I'm thrilled that it's doing well and that like
Speaker 1: the weird fucking like attempted woke takedown of it, the tape,
Speaker 1: the takedown of it trying to be quote unquote woke
Speaker 1: has failed, and like there is such a thing like
Speaker 1: there's like a new kind of era of like a
Speaker 1: tour Blockbuster directors. Yea once again. But overall I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm again, I'm like neutral. I'm like the
Speaker 1: way that people are like i'mral I'm neutral on Tailor,
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, great, yeah, or like on any other artist,
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's that's that's that's good neutrality. With art
Speaker 1: is like fine, it's not it's not a dire political need. Well,
Speaker 1: things need to be mid so that we can see
Speaker 1: what's truly great period.
Speaker 3: Like I do think that we we don't have enough
Speaker 3: people out here being like this was fine. Like everything
Speaker 3: is either like it's polarized to be like this is
Speaker 3: an excellent thing, this is a terrible thing total, and
Speaker 3: most of everything right now is fine.
Speaker 1: That's actually the big reveal about our culture right.
Speaker 3: Now is it's all kind of fine fine, Like there
Speaker 3: are things that are happening that are like, oh that's extraordinary,
Speaker 3: that's cool. But we're not living in a time.
Speaker 1: Of which is not. We're not saying that the Odyssey
Speaker 1: is fine. We're just saying like there is Like we're
Speaker 1: trained to be extremely polar about anything and everything.
Speaker 3: Toy Story five is out now, and.
Speaker 1: Greta Lee's in every movie. Love that though that.
Speaker 3: I mean, listen if if Toy Story, Christopher Nolan and
Speaker 3: Greta Lee are all gonna be ubiquitous, Mary fuck kill
Speaker 3: I marry Greta.
Speaker 1: Greta's in Toy Story that I guess I fucked Toy
Speaker 1: Story and I kill Nolan. M hmm.
Speaker 3: We had every do you have anything easy? You want
Speaker 3: to say, still gotta do a whole other one of these.
Speaker 3: I know, No, I'm good, but I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I love our new set. It's so good.
Speaker 3: I'm really I'm so thrilled. And we're just gonna keep that.
Speaker 3: We will well, I think we're gonna stop out the couch. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I love the couch.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think. You know, I have
Speaker 1: a very similar rug in my apartment. I know this,
Speaker 1: This rug is class. It's amazing, guys, this rug is amazing. No,
Speaker 1: and I'm not nippicking here. I'm just saying, like, you know,
Speaker 1: just prepare for some some some changes, some slight changes
Speaker 1: and tweaks, and but this is all I mean.
Speaker 3: You know, I did almost bring one of our iHeart
Speaker 3: podcasts of the Year today, and I thought to myself,
Speaker 3: do we want to display it?
Speaker 1: And I think maybe we will. I think we will
Speaker 1: to remind these girls, let's display it. That's what awards
Speaker 1: are meant to be, That's what you're supposed to do
Speaker 1: with them.
Speaker 3: Okay, we end every single episode of this podcast with
Speaker 3: a song. I have an idea I'm gonna do the
Speaker 3: beginning of a concert that you missed. Oh, And I
Speaker 3: want to think about the atmosphere being so dense with
Speaker 3: excitement anticipation because you know you're gonna see your generational.
Speaker 1: Icon that you feel like you grew up with. Yeah
Speaker 1: you did, maybe even you had your kid at the.
Speaker 3: Same time she was having her kid, and you look
Speaker 3: around and you're like, wow, look how far we've come.
Speaker 3: And you see it's Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 1: This people talking. They talk about me, they know my name,
Speaker 1: we know everything, but.
Speaker 5: They don't know anything about me. So give me a dance, far,
Speaker 5: give me a DJ, give.
Speaker 1: Me a record forget what day you say? Because I
Speaker 1: need to go, need to get away tonight.
Speaker 5: I put my makeup on a Saturday, try to make
Speaker 5: it happen, trying.
Speaker 1: To make it a rite? Why this key? She was
Speaker 1: young and you why did I feel like I need
Speaker 1: to do it in that? Because I don't know Hubris.
Speaker 3: Mariana was right when she came on the podcast. I
Speaker 3: remember at the end of the podcast, I started to
Speaker 3: sing positions and like, She's like that key.
Speaker 1: She was like, that's a weird key. Let's just get
Speaker 1: get to the chorus and no.
Speaker 5: Man mistakes and live and left it day it's never
Speaker 5: really easy money, so okay.
Speaker 3: And the thing is, it's not a hard song to sing,
Speaker 3: but it's gonna feel like it's a hard song thing
Speaker 3: in a second.
Speaker 1: Because of what I've chosen, I think we go for it.
Speaker 1: Five six seven, wake Up, Wake Up on a Saturday night.
Speaker 5: Could be New York, maybe Hollywood, Invine Legend in Paris,
Speaker 5: maybe Tokyo. Something going on anyway, good night tonight, Yeah, tonight.
Speaker 1: We can have one Hillary Duff album in the studio.
Speaker 1: Which one should it be? It should be the new one.
Speaker 1: I have it. It's so good. I Mature is my
Speaker 1: favorite song of the year.
Speaker 3: Mature is minus Roommates Love That Do Too Bad. The
Speaker 3: episode's over, or we can verbally spar about that. It's
Speaker 3: pop culture topic next time. It's an eternal album. Next
Speaker 3: time on Lost Culture, which is how we end every episode.
Speaker 1: Lost Culture REACSS is the production by Will Ferrell's Big
Speaker 1: Money Players and iHeartRadio podcasts.
Speaker 3: Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, Executive
Speaker 3: produced by Anna hasny A and produced by Decca Ramos,
Speaker 3: edited by hot Dog Sandwich and our music is by
Speaker 3: Henry Koberski.