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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbal.

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Speaker 2: On today's show is late Game, Mario Crystobaal Really a

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Speaker 2: thing is usc done without JT. Daniels that much much more?

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Speaker 1: Let's get started. Welcome back to the Solid Verbal, Boys

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Speaker 1: and girls. I'm Ty hilde Briant. That man over there

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Speaker 1: is Dan Rubinstein and yes you're listening to us bright

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Speaker 1: and early on a Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 3: Dan, So is this are we technically the meat on

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Speaker 3: a solid verbal sandwich?

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Speaker 1: Now? Between the recap and preview, I was gonna make

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Speaker 1: the letdown look ahead sandwich joke.

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Speaker 3: So I don't want to disappoint people though, because the

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Speaker 3: reason we're doing this show is because we feel that

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Speaker 3: there is more to discuss during the college football season

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Speaker 3: than just previewing games and recapping games. So I want

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Speaker 3: this to be a headline DELI meat of a show.

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Speaker 1: There is more or meat to pick off the carcass

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Speaker 1: of that Tennessee bone.

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Speaker 3: I think this is what you're saying, ah to too soon.

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Speaker 3: Let's just we got to work to that tie work

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Speaker 1: So today, got a few topics that we want to discuss,

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Speaker 1: got a few games that we want to play. But

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Speaker 1: before we go any further, I should mention that Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: won its game on Sunday evening by a forty nine

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Speaker 1: of course, was Jalen Hurts in his first game as

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Speaker 1: an Oklahoma Sooner. Looked really sharp at quarterback, only missed

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Speaker 1: three passes when twenty of twenty three had three passing touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: also had a bunch of rushing yards on the ground

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Speaker 1: and three more touchdowns six in total. Again, your final

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Speaker 1: score here forty nine to thirty one, as Oklahoma gets

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a fun game to watch just from

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Speaker 3: an entertainment perspective, both to see Jalen Hurts and how

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Speaker 3: it looked like he was ducking and running a little

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Speaker 3: but he made some huge throws, looked more and more

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Speaker 3: comfortable over the course of the game. Oklahoma ran the ball.

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Speaker 3: I was impressed that that is what Derek King looked

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Speaker 3: like after having Yeah, major sundery, but Houston has a

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: They scored two touchdowns later on to make the score

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Speaker 3: seem a little closer than it actually was. But early

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Speaker 3: returns I think very positive for Oklahoma's offense as it's

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Speaker 3: run by Jalen Hurts. He looked pretty comfortable by the

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's got a little bit of

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Speaker 3: He runs harder and more dangerously than either Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 3: he looks anywhere near this during Big twelve play Sorry, sorry,

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Speaker 3: The big thing will be when it is thirty seven,

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Speaker 1: So as for other topics on today's show, Dan, we

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Speaker 1: I think are of particular interest to you, Dan.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, so we I think first of all, we

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Speaker 1: Thing, very creative, very literally named. I like it.

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Speaker 1: Right, so Iowa State needed triple over time to get

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Speaker 1: the extent to which that's going to affect this offense.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to say it's not a thing. I am

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is one of the brighter spots that we

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Speaker 3: The answers that Virginia offered up not just in Week

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Speaker 1: No, they look They were the front runner in my

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Speaker 1: played a game. Yes, I think they're even more of

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Speaker 1: There are too many questions on that Miami offense. The

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Speaker 1: But on offense, now they've got a true freshman starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: there in the new Manny Diaz regime. I think they'll

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in Virginia, to both their credit and to their detriment,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: So my big question for them is, because they've had

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Speaker 1: Or wide receiver, somebody outside of Bryce Perkins.

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Speaker 3: Semi disagree. I rewatched this game because I had only

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Speaker 1: Right fair, that's fair. No, that's totally fair.

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Speaker 1: So while we joke about Texas being back and maybe

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Speaker 3: To be clear, my ruling is Virginia thing, Iowa state

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Speaker 3: If that's the measuring stick with LSU scoring multiple touchdowns

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Speaker 1: I'm seven and a half. I'm five out of ten.

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Speaker 1: It's a new Georgia Tech. We know it's a new

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Speaker 3: Well, we've seen also LSU struggle with much lesser teams,

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Speaker 3: It's one hundred percent something to monitor. It is one

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Speaker 1: That's the good stuff.

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Speaker 1: presumably want one timeout and not both. But they needed

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00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: to talk about that because it was such a big play.

437
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 1: I was surprised that they went with such a predictable

438
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 1: play as well, and I think that's probably the better point.

439
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 1: The thing about the late game James Franklin bug, when

440
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: you get it, you know it like it's like food poisoning,

441
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: all right. There is no denying, no doubt that when

442
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 1: you get it, you've got it. And you just need

443
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 1: to see more of a body of work in that

444
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: respect before I think you commit to labeling somebody. James

445
00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 1: Franklin is very experienced in this realm. It sticks. That's

446
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: why I have drafted that to my Fantasy Things Roster

447
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: Lake game. James Franklin makes two appearances a year without fail.

448
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: Hopefully in the case of Mario crystball. That won't happen

449
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: again moving forward. This was a big national stage, huge game,

450
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 1: and it didn't work out for him. But I don't

451
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: think it's a thing. I really don't. I'm gonna go

452
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: two out of ten. You think it is.

453
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 3: Just a cocktail of the drop pass, the fumble, you know,

454
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 3: all these opportunities for Oregon to really separate themselves from

455
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 3: Umburn doesn't come together, just like it against Stanford. You

456
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: think it is just just dumb, dumb bad luck.

457
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of bad luck involved. Yeah, okay, yeah,

458
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: And I don't fault the guy, however predictable going to

459
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: the left side of the line. I don't fault the guy.

460
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: We're going to play into his strength. Absolutely. Even the

461
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 1: announcers said it. Herbie said it, watch for a run

462
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: here on the left hand side. Right. They tried it, it

463
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: didn't work, Auburn made the play. So I don't want

464
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: to crucify the guy too much for trying to play

465
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: into what is a perceived strength.

466
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I agree it was. The play calling

467
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 3: was in a weird place. I don't know how much

468
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 3: we can put it on Mario. Receivers were covered, but Oregon. Again,

469
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 3: you can't say we're doing things to be aggressive and

470
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 3: then try not try to manufacture wheel routes or anything

471
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 3: creative like Auburn was able to do with the true

472
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 3: freshman quarterback to win the game. That's the big problem

473
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 3: to me is shrinking to the moment.

474
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: So where are you at? Scale one to ten? I

475
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: think this is a solid seven. All right, I'm at

476
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: a two thing. Okay, we disagree. Let's move on. Let's

477
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: get to our fun little game, which we like to

478
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: call Dunzo now or not Dounzo? Where does that sound from?

479
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 3: Obviously Laguna Beach, the real Orange County. That is Kristin Cavaleri,

480
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 3: who is married into football royalty as the wife of

481
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 3: Jay Cutler. Yes, yep, I'm going to add a layer

482
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 3: to Dunzo. Okay, Okay, So this is a very simple game.

483
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 3: We decide whether or not this item that I name

484
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 3: is Dunzo not done so or and you only get

485
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: to use it once out of these three tie okay

486
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 3: DHP donze holding pattern donze holding pattern Dhpka, so you

487
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: get one Donzo. Yeah, I'm one Donzo? What one not Donzo?

488
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,719
Speaker 3: One donze holding pattern?

489
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm okay, with this. Where would you like to start.

490
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: Let's start with Tennessee the volunteers. They lost to Georgia

491
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: State at home week one. This was the year that

492
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: many Tennessee fans were excited about. Seemed as if they

493
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: were building towards something. Yeah, Week one did not go

494
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: so well as Tennessee. Dunzo not Donzo or are you

495
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: putting them in your DHP?

496
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 3: I have them as donzoicial. That's bold, it's bold, Okay.

497
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 3: The Florida game is in Gainesville, followed by a bye

498
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: week in Georgia, Mississippi State, Alabama. This is all before

499
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 3: and they have BYU and Chattanooga before where they can

500
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 3: sort of at least look competent. But this is all

501
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 3: before a South Carolina team UAB South Carolina. I think

502
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: we're a little bit more down on after Week one.

503
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 3: But week one a Kentucky team that is different, I

504
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 3: would say a Miszoo team that is different. Vanderbilt that

505
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 3: does not seem super promising. So on its face, a average

506
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 3: Tennessee team should win one, two, three, four, five, six,

507
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 3: seven games, right if they ascend to competent After watching

508
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 3: them against Georgia State, a two to ten team last year.

509
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 3: I don't know if I see that ascension happening. I

510
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,239
Speaker 3: think they max out at five games and as a

511
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 3: Tennessee team not going to a bowl again, that to

512
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 3: me spells done.

513
00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: So Okay, the line gave up four point six yards

514
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: per carry to Georgia State. Mm hmm. That's a problem.

515
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 1: I agree, that's a problem against Georgia State. They're going

516
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: to be much better rushing teams, much better offensive lines

517
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: that Tennessee is going to have to play in the

518
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: very near future given that SEC schedule. That's a problem.

519
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: The defense also made some really basic mistakes and ones

520
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: that don't just reflect on the players, but also the

521
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: coaching staff. Guys were out of position, didn't know where

522
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: they were supposed to be. Some of them were upperclassmen

523
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: who should know better.

524
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 3: Backbreaking turnovers, Yeah, that reflects on the coaching staff and

525
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 3: in the turnover vein Jared Guarntanum might have had one

526
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: of his worst games.

527
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was not good new starter. No, No, he's

528
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: been around the block. Yeah. I think this all builds

529
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: to a monstrous game this week against BYU. If they

530
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: don't get off the schneid this week and knock off

531
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: BYU they're in trouble, so I'm not ready to commit

532
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: to them being done so yet because I still believe

533
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: that this team is a ton of talent. I know

534
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: they played hard at the end of last year. I'm

535
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: gonna say not Dunzo as of now, but talk to

536
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: me in a week after that b YU game. If

537
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: they lose two in a row, definitely Donzo. That feels

538
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: done holding pattern to me, then No, not yet. Not

539
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: ready to put him in a holding pattern yet.

540
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 3: So the thing to like about Tennessee right now is

541
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 3: an experienced quarterback with a with an offensive coordinator known

542
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 3: to get things right wherever he goes offensive Jim Cheney.

543
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: Jim Cheney.

544
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: I like his receiving core, Juwan Jennings and what Dominic

545
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: wood Anderson the tight end.

546
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: Jan Jennings looked pretty good.

547
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: He did look pretty good. The recruiting I think has

548
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 3: been good enough. On defense though, even though they're working

549
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 3: to get away from full on bad which what they

550
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: which is what they were last year, They've recruited well enough.

551
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: It's what Henry to'oto toe I forget is sure yep,

552
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: you mean he starts as a freshman at linebacker and

553
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: shows out. I think there are enough pieces that are

554
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: going to get it together. I just worry with this

555
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: schedule and what getting to a bowl with this schedule

556
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: entails that that has me done?

557
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: So all right, USC, Yes, Dunzo, not Donzo. We ask

558
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: the question not because they want over Fresno State, but

559
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: because they lost JT. Daniels. When we did our Sunday show,

560
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: he was at the time just going to get an MRI.

561
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: Since then, it's been revealed he has lost for the

562
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: season torn acl and meniscus. That means Keaton Slovas a

563
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: true freshman, a three star out of Scottsdale, Arizona, is

564
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: going to be the new starting quarterback. Interestingly enough, coached

565
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: by offensive coordinator and Hall of Fame NFL quarterback Kurt

566
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: Warner back in high school. Interestingly enough, I am Dunzo

567
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: on USC. Full on Dunzo. I am full on Dunzo.

568
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: They had Fresno last week, but coming up they get

569
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: Stanford BYU BYU apparently plays everybody this year, Washington and

570
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: then a bye week before Notre Dame. Traveling to Notre Dame,

571
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: that is not an easy slate for a freshman quarterback.

572
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: We already know that Clay Helton is on thin ice.

573
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: I just don't think this is the optimal result at

574
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: this point in the season after a week one losing

575
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: your star quarterback. I am not feeling very optimistic about

576
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 1: the Trojans, unfortunately.

577
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: Because of Slovas specifically, or is there a bigger reason?

578
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: Well, it's slow. This in addition to all the reasons

579
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: we define going into the season, right, So like, are

580
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: they going to get a complementary running game in order?

581
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: USC recruits running backs like they grow on trees. So

582
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: much talent at the running back position.

583
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 3: It just sends pretty well to close out the game

584
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: against It.

585
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: Ran pretty well to close out the game, But I

586
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: need to see more of it. This has been an

587
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: area where they just haven't developed running backs to the

588
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: extent that they should. Receiving corps should be fine provided

589
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: Slovas can get the ball to them. But what is

590
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: what's this offense going to look like now that you

591
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: know they've got a brand new true freshman coming in there.

592
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm just not sure. And then on the offensive line

593
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: side of things, the offensive line has not done USC

594
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks many favors over the last couple of seasons. Either.

595
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 3: I thought they looked pretty good against Fresno. Now, the

596
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: ball was coming out pretty quickly, which is a good

597
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: way to mitigate any lingering issues there. But with USC

598
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: looking pretty strong along both lines, granted, Fresno for better

599
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: or worse with the talent they have, and this is

600
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 3: what we say every year. Obviously they've recruited so well

601
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: other than Washington and Notre Dame, both on the road,

602
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 3: I believe I'm a little less worried about Utah. I

603
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 3: think you can win ugly against Utah in this offense.

604
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: Their defensive line. Are you kidding me?

605
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 3: No, No, you can win ugly. And the reason why it's

606
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 3: ugly is Utah's defensive line. Okay, I think USC can

607
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: win that game. Thirteen I don't in Laay so we

608
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: have a Stanford team, we don't know the status of

609
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: kJ Costello r a BYU team that may be okay,

610
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: but certainly didn't look it against Utah, an Arizona team. Defensively,

611
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 3: you can you can do things against this Wildcat team.

612
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: I'm not crazy about Colorado's defense. Oregon is November, so

613
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 3: that's at least time. If Oregon is the best or

614
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: one of the best teams in the North, which I

615
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: anticipate they still are. There's at least time and you

616
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: get that in La Arizona, State's on the road, Cows

617
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 3: on the road, UCLA to finish.

618
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: Dude, they're not beating Oregon. They're not beating Oregon.

619
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 3: Even if they don't beat Oregon, even if they lose

620
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: to Washington, Notre Dame in Oregon, still nine to three year.

621
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,239
Speaker 1: They are not going nine and three. They are not

622
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: going nine and three.

623
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say not Donezo, but I'm gonna say not

624
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 3: Donzo in that if we're If it's specifically related to

625
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: J T. Daniels and how the move to Keaton's Slovas

626
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 3: affects things, Okay, I don't think And having only watched

627
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 3: however many passes Keaton Slovas through six or seven, I

628
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: don't think that there's an appreciable drop off with the

629
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: talent around him. If he's getting the ball out quickly,

630
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: if he's not making incredibly difficult throws, I don't think

631
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 3: it is a huge game changer in terms of ceiling.

632
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing, Graham Harrell, what's his lineage is

633
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: air right? Yeah, yeah, he's an air raid guy. He

634
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: played at Texas Tech where they've been very good at

635
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: taking three star quarterbacks and making them blow up statistically. Yeah,

636
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: he was one of them, and then the same deal.

637
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah he was one of them and the same deal

638
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: at North Texas with Mason Fine. So this is something

639
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: that he's got experience with and I hope it works

640
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: out for Keaton Slovas. I'm just not there. I don't

641
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: know what Dunzo is considered in a USC sense, but

642
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: seven and five feels about right to me? Is it

643
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: because of Slovas? It is due in no small part

644
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: to Slovs.

645
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm gonna say not done. So this move

646
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: does not kill USC.

647
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm donezo in USC. Okay. Final item finally here Florida State.

648
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: Florida State lost because of a second half collapse. Where

649
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: are we at on Florida State? Dan? Are we done

650
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: or not? Donze on this team?

651
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Speaker 3: Well, I guess I haven't used my holding pattern right,

652
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 3: So I'm in a holding pattern with Florida State. I

653
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 3: think this is a year in which they are going

654
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 3: to show difficulties against good teams, which I think Poise

655
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 3: State probably is at least pretty good, and they should

656
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 3: be able to use those big plays on offense to

657
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 3: help mitigate, whether it's with screens or fades or whatever,

658
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 3: crossing routes to mitigate a still huge work in progress

659
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 3: offensive line. But the great news is their schedule is

660
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 3: such that they have Louisiana Monroe, They're at Virginia, which

661
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 3: would be very tough. Rebuilding Louisville, NC State will be tough.

662
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: But outside of that, Syracuse is at least at home,

663
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 3: and we saw some issues with Syracuse offensively. Wake Forest

664
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 3: on the road, I think it's going to be shootouty,

665
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: but they should be able to get by that defense.

666
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 3: I think I feel good things that Wake is not

667
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: Boise State, Miami looks to be uneven on offense. Boston

668
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: College they beat last year Alabama State at Florida that

669
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 3: I think they are going to get to a point

670
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 3: where they're at least dangerous. So that to me, when

671
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 3: you feel dangerous, that feels like it at the very

672
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 3: least is a holding pattern where defensively, I think the

673
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: linebackers can only get better if I'm going to be optimistic,

674
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: and I just don't see a lot of quarterbacks with

675
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: experience outside of Trevor Lawrence on this schedule. Bryce Perkins

676
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence and outside of that, who am I truly

677
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 3: scared of quarterback wise to do what I mean, true

678
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: freshman Hank Bachmeyer was able to do.

679
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Speaker 1: Not a lot. Look, they weren't great on offense in

680
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: the second half, right, A lot of great plays of

681
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: the first half, a lot of big chunk plays, a

682
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: lot of explosion. I think you have to like what

683
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: you saw there. Second half. Boise State was able to

684
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 1: shut them down. The defense couldn't get off the field

685
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: in the second half. In particular, in the game as

686
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: a whole, Bois he had forty minutes of possession on

687
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: a hot day. Florida State was a team that were

688
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: down okay one, yeah, week one. I don't want to

689
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: overreact to this because Boise's probably a ten win team

690
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: this season. They're very good if.

691
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: They look like what they showed on Saturday afternoon.

692
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Hank Bachmeyer looked good. There was a

693
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: lot to like on that Boise side. So don't underestimate

694
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Speaker 1: how good the Broncos are. What I would say, though,

695
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: I guess to the counterpoint here, and you're right to

696
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: point out that there isn't a whole lot of quarterback

697
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: experience coming back and you look at the schedule, it's

698
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: you can very easily find a path through for Florida State.

699
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: That being said, it's also not that difficult to look

700
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Speaker 1: at it with more of a skeptic lie and come

701
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: up with another five and seven season, Like, let's see

702
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: how let's see how they look in two weeks on

703
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: the road at UVA before we push the panic button here.

704
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I don't want to go dunzo or

705
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: not done, so I think a holding pattern is appropriate.

706
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: This is a really good Boise State team. The situation

707
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: was not conducive. Everyone was a little uncomfortable, given they

708
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: moved it around from a different venue and then a

709
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: new time, and it was hot and humid and all

710
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: that stuff. So let's give it a few weeks before

711
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: we make a final judgment on this one. First half,

712
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 1: Florida State looked pretty good. Second half Florida State needs

713
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: to do better and certainly needs to get off the

714
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: field from a defensive standpoint. So they're in my holding

715
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: pattern here.

716
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 3: Florida State could be And I know there are issues

717
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 3: on the offensive line. I know there's issues in the secondary.

718
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 3: I know there's open field tackling issues. But they could

719
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 3: certainly be a team where with what I still think

720
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: is a good defensive coordinator. I know they have a

721
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 3: good offensive coordinator where it's just a week one thing

722
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 3: we're like, oh, this was there all second half. I

723
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: think there are moments like that if they go back

724
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Speaker 3: and watch the film. I could not speak specifically to

725
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: that because I have not seen the coaches camera, but

726
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 3: I think they could be a prime candidate for with

727
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: just too much skill talent, with all acc level skill talent,

728
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 3: I think there's just too much there to think, Yeah,

729
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 3: they're just done after lak or two. As you said,

730
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 3: a ten win is team. I agree, Okay, we agree,

731
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 3: all right, Dan? And finally, yes, congratulations Skippy.

732
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Speaker 1: You've got mail. You've got mail on the solid verbal.

733
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Speaker 1: One of the reasons we're doing this dang show is

734
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: because we don't get as much of a chance as

735
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Speaker 1: we would like during the season to answer questions about

736
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: college football that come to us from the verbllerhood at large.

737
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Speaker 1: So we've carved out a little bit of time here

738
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Speaker 1: at the end for one college football question, Dan, what

739
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: do we got?

740
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this comes to us from Tyler. Is the

741
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 3: Big ten West still as wide open? As one's Thoughtisconsin

742
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 3: and Iowa seemed to clearly play better than Nebraska, who

743
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 3: struggled with South Alabama at times, Minnesota struggled with South

744
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 3: Dakota State at times, Northwestern losing to Stanford and looking

745
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 3: kind of putrid on our offense, and Perdue loses Nevada.

746
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: I know it's just one week, says Tyler, but it

747
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 3: looked like some separation.

748
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: To me, Separation Saturday in week one. That's I think.

749
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: What's what he's saying every week is separation Saturday. Tyler

750
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: for being honest. Yes, it's still wide open, but I

751
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: agree that it's not quite as wide open. I was

752
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: very underwhelmed by what we saw from Northwestern. I expected

753
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: more at the quarterback position. We did not see that.

754
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: Dunzo not done so yet. Okay, okay, still very early.

755
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: Stanford is still a pretty good team, but I was

756
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: underwhelmed by what we saw at the quarterback position. There

757
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: is that is absolutely concerning. He is right to point

758
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: out that Wisconsin in Iowa clearly separated themselves in week one.

759
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: I think Nebraska has room to grow. I'm not ready

760
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: to give up on Nebraska being in that lead pack.

761
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: So for me, those are the three teams. I picked

762
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Speaker 1: Iowa preseason as my team coming out of the West,

763
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Speaker 1: but I think right now, if I'm looking at what

764
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: we saw in Week one, I'm squarely in the camp

765
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Speaker 1: of either Iowa, Wisconsin or Nebraska. Maybe as a dark horse.

766
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm content to write the others off. I'm very curious

767
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: to see what happens with Minnesota. Minnesota is another team

768
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: that I think let us down a bit in Week one?

769
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: Can I let you? Can? I give you a spoiler? Please?

770
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: They're not going to be in the top group for

771
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: the Big Ten. I don't think they will either. Yeah,

772
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: I don't think they will either. But they've also been

773
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: a trendy pick, presumably because the West does feel very

774
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: wide open. There have always been questions about Purdue. Purdue

775
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: should not be in the running for this. I wrote

776
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: them off pretty much from the get go. And Illinois. Hey,

777
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: Illinois look pretty good, Brandon Peters, but I'm not ready

778
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: to put them in that lead pack yet. For me,

779
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: it's those three teams, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Nebraska. I have

780
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Speaker 1: Illinois top up the race right now.

781
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: You win forty two to three over a MAC team,

782
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, I don't think anything has changed

783
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 3: after week one. For me, I think I'm with you,

784
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: but I think my lead pack is squarely just Iowa

785
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 3: and Wisconsin right now. I think they have more answers

786
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 3: at more places than Nebraska Purdue. I've always been skeptical

787
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 3: of you know, they jump up for one week of season.

788
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: Now it seems Minnesota to me has questions in terms

789
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 3: of separating themselves offensively. Illinois is just not going to

790
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 3: have it all season long. And Northwestern I think I'm

791
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 3: not writing them off, but with how they looked at

792
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: quarterback and on offense against Stanford, which I think is

793
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: a pretty good defense. I know you are sort of

794
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: more mixed on Stanford's defense, but with how little they

795
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: could find in the way of consistent drives down the field,

796
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 3: I just don't think that's good enough right now to

797
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 3: overcome what Iowa and Wisconsin should also have on defense. No,

798
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 3: so not even I don't have a huge The only

799
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 3: big change is to me, I think I'm writing off Northwestern.

800
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, more so than I are right now. I'm inching

801
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: dangerously close to going dunzil in Northwestern because here's the thing.

802
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: Connor Johnson transfers up from Clemson five star kid, a

803
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 1: lot of talent. It's fine, it's fine. In his first

804
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: game against a good opponent in Stanford for him not

805
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: to look optimal. He looked real bad. He looked real

806
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: bad in that football game, and really, to the extent

807
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: Dan where it didn't feel all that different from Northwestern

808
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: teams we've seen in the past. I was under the

809
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: impression this was going to be a new Northwestern because

810
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: of his presence there. Right, And maybe he's not ready,

811
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: maybe they didn't game plan right. There could be a

812
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: number of factors as to why we didn't see that.

813
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: But to only score seven points, that is not good enough.

814
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: And I'm inching very close to getting to that Donze stage.

815
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 3: I always worry when two plus years into somebody's career

816
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,479
Speaker 3: we're still talking about a recruit ranking.

817
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

818
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 3: Well sure, and obviously he doesn't start and doesn't really

819
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 3: play significant time at Clemson, but we have well we

820
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: don't have a body of work, but we have a

821
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: body of work on Northwestern's offense these past few years

822
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 3: as being decidedly below average and being led by efficiency

823
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 3: at spots and their defense. And if if it's Hunter

824
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 3: Johnson not being able to do things or not being

825
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 3: allowed to do things results wise, I'm not sure what

826
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: difference it makes. And so the fact that you right

827
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 3: now are talking about is recruiting ranking, to me is

828
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 3: worrisome and I don't know.

829
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: The other thing is that Hunter Johnson was pulled for

830
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:46,479
Speaker 1: ineffectiveness yea, and in his place entered one TJ. Green. Well. TJ.

831
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: Green hurt his foot. He might be out for the year.

832
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: So suddenly a lot more pressure is going to fall

833
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: on Hunter Johnson six out of seventeen throwing with two

834
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: interceptions a QBR. Mind you of four point two against

835
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: the Stanford Cardinal. That's not gonna be good enough if

836
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: we want Northwestern to be a legit contender for the

837
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: Big ten West or quite frankly, a bull through October.

838
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 3: These are the defenses, the notable defenses that Northwestern is

839
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 3: facing Michigan State, Wisconsin on the road, Ohio State, and Iowa,

840
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 3: and they do I think they host or no, they

841
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 3: go to Nebraska, which at the very least Nebraska should

842
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 3: score some on Northwestern, which means Northwestern needs to score

843
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 3: some on Nebraska. And that is what those defenses, paired

844
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: with kneeding points against Nebraska and Lincoln I'm pretty worried

845
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 3: about Northwestern, so I've taken them out of the top

846
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: pack of the Big Ten.

847
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: Well, we've taken this question and turned it into a

848
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: dunk on Northwestern answer. But I'm comfortable to dunk on.

849
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to dunk on them, but I feel

850
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: like it's warranted. Yeah, it looks like Yeah, TJ. Green

851
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: needs foot surgery. Looks it could be the end of

852
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: his season. It sucks. It sucks. All right, Well, thank

853
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: you one and all for tuning in. We will be

854
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: back in two days time on Thursday morning, going to

855
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: preview all the week to action. I have been stirring

856
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: at night trying to come up with a window of opportunity. Ooh,

857
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: going to be an interesting week for that. Going to

858
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: be an interesting week for games.

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00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 3: Did you see any of the week two lines, the

860
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: early lines, A couple of them. Yeah, okay, so the

861
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 3: big ones to sort of We're not previewing games right now,

862
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: but just to keep this in mind going into our

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Speaker 3: preview show, Michigan favored by twenty two and a half,

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Speaker 3: that came down by twenty three over Army. The Texas

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Speaker 3: A and M game I believe is that's in the afternoon,

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Speaker 3: right yeap. It opened at nineteen and a half. I'm

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Speaker 3: sitting down to eighteen and a half, so money coming

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Speaker 3: into Clemson a little bit. And then Texas LSU it

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Speaker 3: opened it four up to four and a half. LSU

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Speaker 3: favored on the road in Austin. On that note, for

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Speaker 3: that go over there. I'm a good friend Dan Rubinstein

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Speaker 3: for myself. Ty Hildebrand, Hey, thanks for tuning in earlier

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Speaker 3: in the week than usual.

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Speaker 1: Catch you all pretty soon. In the meantime, stay solid, peace,