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Speaker 1: five times, stabbed deeply five times, and vigorously beaten with

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Speaker 2: The murder of Genora Guillery sent shockwaves through her small

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Speaker 1: Everybody was scared, especially if you were a woman. You know,

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Speaker 2: Today we're in Clinton, Louisiana, for the case of Genora Guillery,

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Speaker 2: whose unsolved murder became a talking point among local politicians.

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Speaker 2: I'm Sloan Glass and this is American Homicide. Just a warning,

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Speaker 2: this episode contained some graphic content. Please take care while listening.

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Speaker 2: Before we go into the story of Genora, we have

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Speaker 2: it really is a melting pot, a mix of so

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Speaker 2: many different ingredients that come together to create something really

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Speaker 2: It's thick in the air. It actually reminds me of

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Speaker 2: the dish that they are best known for gumbo combination

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Speaker 2: of different types of meat are seafood and celery, bell peppers, onions,

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Speaker 2: all coming together for this party.

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Speaker 3: Stew gumbo being one of the spicy, fantastic dishes of

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Speaker 2: Elbert Gillary is a lawyer and former state senator in Louisiana,

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Speaker 3: We call ourselves Gumbo people, a blend of of French, French, Catholic,

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Speaker 2: That blend of culture is what makes Louisiana so unique.

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Speaker 3: This is the most fascinating place in the world. The

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Speaker 2: Cities like that in Rouge and New Orleans get the spotlight.

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Speaker 2: Elbert believes it's the many small towns that make up

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Speaker 3: We call ourselves the real Louisiana. People are much warmer,

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Speaker 3: much more open. Our food is better, our music is better.

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Speaker 3: It's just a whole different world. It's a much more

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Speaker 2: One such integrated place is the town of Clinton. Clinton

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Speaker 2: says about thirty miles northeast of Battle and Rouge. The

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Speaker 2: to overcome its racially fraud history. For years, residents argued

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Speaker 3: This is America. There is racism in America, and that's

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Speaker 3: just a part of life. We've come a long way

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Speaker 3: during my lifetime, and we still have a few more

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Speaker 2: Back in two thousand, Elbert's sister in law, Genora Gillery,

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Speaker 3: She lived down a country road. There were only two

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Speaker 3: She loved horses and had horses. She loved dogs and

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Speaker 2: Cleo was Genora's protector. She would bark at almost anyone

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Speaker 2: of her outfits were complete without Cleo's dog care, or

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Speaker 3: She loved the idea that she would be able to

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Speaker 2: It was undisturbed all right. Genora's farmhouse style home sat

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Speaker 2: The Skipper's trailer may have been an ice work, but

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Speaker 2: having Philip and his wife Amy Skipper as neighbors was

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Speaker 2: A housekeeper, but it was more than a working relationship.

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Speaker 2: The Skippers and Genora were very close, especially because Genora

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Speaker 2: You see, Genora was very successful. She worked for a

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Speaker 1: Her coworkers got worried about her because she didn't show

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Speaker 2: Detective Joel Odam worked for the East fully Siena Sheriff's Department.

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Speaker 1: They called the Sheriff's office and asked to do a

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Speaker 2: With no sign of Genora and a constant busy signal

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Speaker 1: Clinton is pretty quiet. It's a small community. Most everybody

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Speaker 2: It took about thirty minutes for the squad car to

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Speaker 1: When he first arrived there, he saw that the door

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Speaker 2: That's where Jenora's dog Clea was found tied to a

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Speaker 1: And when he went inside, he could see blood basically

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Speaker 2: Then they walked into the bedroom. A broken lamp lay

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Speaker 1: She'd been shot five times, stabbed deeply five times.

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Speaker 2: It was awful. This entire story gives me such a

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Speaker 2: Bruises covered her entire face. Genora's skull almost looked flattened

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Speaker 1: She took a blow to the spinal column that severed

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Speaker 2: If what happened to Jenora Guillery wasn't already bad enough,

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Speaker 2: there were also signs she was sexually assaulted. It was

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Speaker 1: And this was a violent homicide, probably more brutal than

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Speaker 2: Think about that for a second. The scene was so

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Speaker 1: We have murders up in Clinton, but nothing that was

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Speaker 1: the level of this. It's heartbreaking. Makes me feel sorry

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Speaker 1: for the family to know their loved one had to

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Speaker 2: Detective Don McKee arrived a short time later and began

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Speaker 5: She was laying in the back corner of the bedroom.

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Speaker 5: She had stabs in her hands in her arms, so

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Speaker 5: It was just obvious that this was a homicide.

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Speaker 2: Detective searched the house and they didn't find anything missing.

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Speaker 5: At that point, we secured the sing with Kyle for

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Speaker 5: Louisiana State believed the crime lab to come and process

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Speaker 5: the scene. While we was there waiting for that to occur,

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Speaker 5: we talked to the Skippers.

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Speaker 2: As Janora's Bonnie was taking out in a body bag,

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Speaker 2: her neighbors and good friends, Philip and Amy Skipper, were

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Speaker 5: Amy was just really upset, she was hysterical and they

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Speaker 2: Amy and Philip were two twenty somethings who lived in

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Speaker 5: Was talk about how big of a heart she had.

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Speaker 5: She would pick up stray dogs and bring them to

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Speaker 2: And the Skippers provided detectives with their first clue. They

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Speaker 2: said Genora's dogs never worked at night time. However, the

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Speaker 2: previous morning they heard Genora's dogs barking around two am.

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Speaker 5: That's when we noticed scratches on both of their arms

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Speaker 2: Philip Skipper's arms were all scratched up, but he had

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Speaker 2: an explanation. He said that he and his stepson, John

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Speaker 2: Balllyo had been horsing around in the yard.

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Speaker 5: He said it was wrastling in the yard and so forth.

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Speaker 2: It the Skippers were the only ones who lived nearby,

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Speaker 2: and those scratches for something detectives couldn't ignore. So in

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Speaker 2: order to rule them out a suspects, they had Philip

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Speaker 2: Skipper and his stepson, John Balllyo take a polygraph test.

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Speaker 5: Admitted to a polygraph test, and both of them passed that.

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Speaker 2: After they passed with flying colors, the detectives were back

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Speaker 4: Genora lived in a nice house out in the middle

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Speaker 4: of nowhere. I mean it's down at the end of

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Speaker 2: Journalist Chuck Hussmeyer covered the story.

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Speaker 4: Well, the door was open to the house, it wasn't forced,

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Speaker 4: which is a clue right there that she likely knew

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Speaker 2: Based on her autopsy, the police determined Genora died sometime

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Speaker 2: in the very early hours of Sunday morning, and given

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Speaker 2: the severity of her injuries and the fact that nothing

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Speaker 4: Typically, in a murder case, you start with the closest

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Speaker 2: Two years earlier. Her boyfriend fell asleep at the wheel

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Speaker 4: But after that, it's really digging into the history of

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Speaker 4: Who was mad at her?

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Speaker 2: At the time, Genora was forty two years old. She

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Speaker 2: worked in human resources for an insurance company in Baton Rouge.

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Speaker 2: Since she handled the hiring and firing, detectives questioned her

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Speaker 4: You know, people like that are who you want to

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Speaker 2: Her colleagues couldn't think of any disgruntled ex employees, but

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Speaker 2: That man was an old friend of Genora's named Steve.

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Speaker 1: She thought that was going to be the end of it,

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Speaker 2: In the month before her murder, Steve's phone number turned

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Speaker 2: That was the last time any of Jenora's colleagues saw

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Speaker 1: So we started looking to him and found out he

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Speaker 1: Everybody was just shocked.

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Speaker 2: Although he was forty five years old at the time,

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Speaker 2: Steve was a rookie cop. He had just graduated from

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Speaker 1: There's no correct way to do it, and I was

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Speaker 2: No matter what. One cop investigating another cop means you're

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Speaker 2: But that didn't stop them.

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Speaker 1: At the time, we didn't have anything. Basically, we had

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Speaker 2: Detectives continued to look into Steve. He cooperated with their investigation.

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Speaker 1: We pulled him in for question and we offered him

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Speaker 1: He failed to polygraph and he said, I don't want

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Speaker 2: Okay, So things weren't looking good for Officer Steve, and

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Speaker 4: He left a message on her answer machine right before

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Speaker 2: That's something important to remember. Genora lived in the middle

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Speaker 2: He did admit to calling Genora that Saturday, but she

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Speaker 4: He'd made Genia nervous to the point where she wouldn't

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Speaker 2: Detectives learned Steve sometimes stop by Genora's house and office unannounced,

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Speaker 2: which obviously scared Gena. And get this, he even called

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Speaker 4: They are just a lot of weird stuff going on

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Speaker 2: Things got even more unsettling when they visited the police

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Speaker 2: academy officer Steve attended. There was a payphone there where

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Speaker 2: fellow cadet said they always saw Steve making calls. Detectives

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Speaker 2: five phone calls placed from that phone to Genora's in

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Speaker 4: They interviewed people that he knew, including another woman who

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Speaker 2: Even after Steve lawyered up and stopped cooperating, detectives continued

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Speaker 4: And they really went after him hard. They execute a

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Speaker 2: So this had to be frustrating for detectives. They now

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Speaker 2: failed his polygraph. He admitted to phoning Genora multiple times

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Speaker 4: Can't charge anybody without evidence, so they just have to

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Speaker 2: While detectives continue their investigation, Genora's brother in law, Albert,

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Speaker 3: That was not an easy time, not at all.

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Speaker 2: At the time of Genora's murder, the police had lifted

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Speaker 3: There were some missteps and some broken leads, as they

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Speaker 2: It required a good deal of patience on all sides.

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Speaker 3: We did everything that we could to be helpful to

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Speaker 3: law enforcement. Families under these emotional, devastating circumstances can sometimes

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Speaker 2: Albert and Jennora's family weren't the only ones losing patience.

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Speaker 2: Law enforcement was also disappointed with how long it took

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Speaker 2: year later would change everything. Detectives in the quiet town

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Speaker 4: Normally there isn't a lot of crime in that area.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's a very small town, small population, in

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Speaker 2: Chuck Hussmeyer authored the book Unspeakable Violence about Genora's murder.

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Speaker 4: I've been around a lot of crime, you know, but

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Speaker 2: The police investigated a rookie cop out of Baton Rouge,

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Speaker 4: They polygraphed him and he seemed a little shady or

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Speaker 4: So the case went cold.

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Speaker 2: Cold, something family and friends never want to hear when

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Speaker 2: Detectives had no connection to him and Genora, but Donnie

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Speaker 4: He said he knew something about the Genoa Gillery murder.

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Speaker 4: He said he was talking to a guy and that

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Speaker 4: So they started digging into his story.

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Speaker 2: That's when detectives learned about a local makeshift gang called

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Speaker 4: The Brotherhood was, you know, three four, maybe five guys

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Speaker 2: If you've seen the nineties movie Stone Cold, and not

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Speaker 2: The Brotherhood was a biker gang that was featured in

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Speaker 4: They were selling meth, they were fighting pit bulls, they

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Speaker 4: I mean, you got to have something really wrong in

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Speaker 2: And members of this dog fighting, meths selling, and grave

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Speaker 4: GFBD God forgives brotherhood, doesn't.

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Speaker 2: That tattoo was a sort of membership badge. But you

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Speaker 4: It, and the only way to earn it was to

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Speaker 2: So who was part of this gang? Well, according to

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Speaker 4: But there's no evidence of animosity between the Skippers and Jenore.

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Speaker 2: The person who fed this information to Donny Fisher was

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Speaker 4: John Balllyo was sort of an orphaned kid. His mother

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Speaker 2: John Ballio would have just been fifteen years old at

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Speaker 2: detectives went back to question the teenager about the Brotherhood's

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Speaker 4: And you know, of course, John Balllyo denied that he

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Speaker 2: John Balllyo said he was there the night Genora was murdered,

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Speaker 4: John Balllyo said Lisa shot her a couple times. Philip

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Speaker 2: John Balllyo said all he did that night was controlled

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Speaker 4: John Balyo's job was to get a rope around the

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Speaker 2: Balllyo said it was all part of his initiation into

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Speaker 2: Philip Skipper and John Balllyo passed a polygraph test right

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Speaker 2: to hurt Genora?

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Speaker 4: She was extremely generous to them. Whenever they would come

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Speaker 4: ask her for anything, which they did a lot, she

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Speaker 4: would give it to them. She threw a birthday party

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Speaker 4: at a local restaurant for their baby. She actually gave

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Speaker 4: them enough money to help them buy a newer mobile home.

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Speaker 4: Not a new one, but newer and nicer.

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Speaker 2: As the police investigated, they learned that a month before

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Speaker 2: Genora's murder, the two neighbors had an argument.

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Speaker 4: The relationship between janere Gillery and the Skippers started to

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Speaker 4: deteriorate over this incident involving a goat. That's a weird story,

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Speaker 4: but the Skippers had a pet goat. Why, I have

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Speaker 4: no idea. Somehow the goat got loose and Amy Skipper

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Speaker 4: said that one of Janoora's dogs attacked a goat. Amy

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Speaker 4: Skipper called Jenore at work, just cussing at her, and

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Speaker 4: you know, just angry furious about the goat. You know,

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Speaker 4: it turned out it wasn't really one of Jennor's dogs.

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Speaker 4: It was a dog I think that the Skippers had

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Speaker 4: and gave to Jenoor that got loose.

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Speaker 2: So, in other words, the Skipper's own dog attacked their goat,

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Speaker 2: but they blamed Genora. This skipper said the two sides

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Speaker 2: had reconciled. But again, would an incident with a goat

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Speaker 2: be enough of a motive to kill it seems a

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Speaker 2: little ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: They did get a search warrant based on what he

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Speaker 4: told them, and they executed the warrant at the trailer

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Speaker 4: across from Jenor's house.

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Speaker 2: Now keep in mind this search happened well over a

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Speaker 2: year after Jenor's murder.

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Speaker 4: They weren't really able to find anything in the house.

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Speaker 4: They couldn't find the gun, you know, the twenty two

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Speaker 4: gun that she was shot with several times. And they

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Speaker 4: did find a bat. John Ballyo had told him about

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Speaker 4: a bat, but the bat had been sitting outside their

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Speaker 4: trailer for like two years in the rain, so they

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Speaker 4: weren't able to get any evidence DNA evidence particularly.

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Speaker 2: One other notable find at the Skippers was some life

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Speaker 2: insurance documents It was a life policy that named the

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Speaker 2: Skippers as the beneficiary in the event of Janora's death.

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Speaker 4: Her boyfriend was the beneficiary on the life insurance policy

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Speaker 4: on Jenora's life, and when he passed away, she didn't

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Speaker 4: cancel the policy. She saw her neighbors were in, you know,

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Speaker 4: financial straits, so she just named Philip and Amy Skipper

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Speaker 4: as the beneficiaries of the same twenty five thousand dollars

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Speaker 4: insurance policy. And she figured, you know, if something happened

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Speaker 4: to her, they would have some extra money to help

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Speaker 4: take care of their baby.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's certainly curious, but it wasn't a secret. Albert

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Speaker 2: Gillery knew about the life insurance policy and no one

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Speaker 2: had objected.

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Speaker 4: Philip and Amy definitely knew about the insurance policy. Jena

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Speaker 4: told them about it, So all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 4: attention shifted to the Skippers and John Ballio, who lived

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Speaker 4: right across the street from Jeneuguiller.

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Speaker 2: Even with these suspects and a confession, the police still

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Speaker 2: did not think they had enough evidence to charge them,

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Speaker 2: just like with their other suspect. The comp from that

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Speaker 2: in Rouche.

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Speaker 4: Most prosecutors are extremely risk averse. They won't tee it

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Speaker 4: up and see what the jury says. They will just

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Speaker 4: drop the case rather than press forward on what they

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Speaker 4: consider a weak case.

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Speaker 2: The decision not to press charges created a war between

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Speaker 2: the DA and Sheriff's office.

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Speaker 5: So we just kind of had to sit back and

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Speaker 5: look at everybody again.

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Speaker 2: And the unsolved murder left the town of Clinton terrified.

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Speaker 1: It was the summer of fear. Everybody was buying mace

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Speaker 1: off the shelf as fast as they could get it.

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Speaker 1: Here handguns say the road.

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Speaker 2: I'm Sloan Glass. In the conclusion of the Brotherhood, the

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Speaker 2: police learned the surprising answer to why they couldn't find

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Speaker 2: more evidence.

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Speaker 4: You never have that happen, And you know, that's something

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Speaker 4: I would be embarrassed to try to write in fiction,

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Speaker 4: But in this case, it really happened.

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