1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Phi. Hey, this is Bryce Harper and welcome to the 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Billy Show. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: Hey everybody, Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, TODDSZ Lucky. Happy 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: New Year twenty twenty five. Our first episode of twenty 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 2: twenty five. Gentlemen, I hope you're doing well. 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: Down on the label. Oh yeah, I like that he's 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: signed you. 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 3: Signed you. 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I love it. I love it? Are you guys? 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: Big New Year's Eve? 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: Guys. 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm too old for the New Year's New Year's even. Yeah. 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:41,959 Speaker 1: The idea of going to your party. 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 4: And staying out late, yeah, it ends in about nine 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 4: and I'm ten tons up after that. 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 3: I haven't seen the ball drop. Uh it's Ruben played 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 3: the outfield for the Phillies. 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: A long time ago, the long time. 19 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: It's the best thing about having young kids is that 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: they do like early ball drops and stuff like that. 21 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: Now you can watch them on TV. So like right 22 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 2: about the time that it's New Year's Eve in London 23 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: or in Rome, you can watch like the celebrations there 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 2: and boom, saw the ball drop in Rome on TV. 25 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: Go straight to bed. So Happy New. 26 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: Year to everybody. I hope everybody is doing well. We 27 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: thought we would spend our first episode of the new 28 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: year doing a little look ahead, making some predictions, doing 29 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: some big picture thoughts. We're gonna have a lot of talk, 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 2: of course, over the next six weeks before camp opens 31 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: in clear Water, right around Valentine's Day, looking ahead at 32 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: the new season. But we thought we'd do some big 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: picture stuff. So let's open with this, guys, top storyline 34 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: on January first, January second, January third of the twenty 35 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: twenty five season. What is the top storyline, Jim, in 36 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: your reporter's brain? 37 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: Well, I will say this, There are many storylines, but 38 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: the ultimate one, the one that matters the most is 39 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: can they win? Can they win? I hate to fast 40 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 3: forward through the one hundred and sixty two game season 41 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: because you know, I love that. I love how it's 42 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 3: a daily chapter, almost like reading a daily novel and 43 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: watching the twists and turns and seeing how it's going 44 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 3: to unfold. And baseball season is long, but it's special. 45 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: And but you know, for this team, with the huge payroll, 46 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: with the star studded roster, with sort of the you know, 47 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: the veteran status of a lot of these guys north 48 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: of thirty, the clock is ticking on this nucleus and 49 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: they've gotten to October three years in a row, which 50 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: is a very good thing. I expect them to get 51 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: to October for a fourth year in a row. If 52 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: they don't, something's really wrong. But the standard is not 53 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: just getting to October, it's winning. So after two Octobers 54 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 3: that have gotten shorter and shorter, can they extend this one? 55 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 3: And can they finish it off? And when the championship 56 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: that everybody in that organization talks about openly, that what 57 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: it's you know, that's what it's all about. So that 58 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: to me is their biggest is the biggest storyline. Can 59 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: they can they get it? Can they get what they 60 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 3: want and need? And and you know, is this the year? 61 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: So that is it? 62 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 4: That is probably the top storyline I think if you're 63 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: looking in a broader sense, I'm more myopic in my 64 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 4: views here, and the storyline will change over the year, 65 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 4: over the season. As you guys know, it's one hundred 66 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 4: and sixty two games, it's you know, it's a long, 67 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: long season. 68 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: Things. You know, there's ebbs and flows. 69 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 4: But out of the shoot, I think one of the 70 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 4: top storylines for me is that I can't believe or 71 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 4: we won't believe that KYLEE. Schwarmer is no longer going 72 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 4: to be the one, the one whole hitter. He's gonna 73 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 4: slide into four or five spot. They've been talking for years. 74 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 5: Why is he not Why is he not hitting in 75 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 5: the fourth slot? Why is he not third or fourth 76 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 5: or fit where you can drive in more runs. Well, 77 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 5: I think this is the year that is going to happen. 78 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 5: I don't know that it's going to happen. 79 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 4: It may not, but I think that that's one of 80 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 4: the top storylines is where Kyle Schwarber hits in the lineup. 81 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 4: And I think he's gonna slide into more into the 82 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 4: middle of the lineup because I think there's gonna be 83 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 4: some adjustments made overall. 84 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: In that lineup. 85 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: And I think it's the first big thing that I 86 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 4: think Rob Thomps is gonna end up doing. 87 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 3: And the fact that Rob Thompson has so openly talked 88 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 3: about it this offseason needs you to believe that it's coming. 89 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: And the fact that Kyle Schwarber improved so much against 90 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 3: left handed hitting last year makes you think it's common 91 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: because Thompson would feel comfortable with, you know, lefty lefty 92 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 3: with Harper Schwarber in the middle. Interesting. I mean, you're right, 93 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: it's it's it's it's not the big picture. It's a 94 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: small picture. But man, yeah, here you look at the 95 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: conversation that that leadoff hole has stimulated the last couple 96 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: of years, and if they change it, yeah, big story. 97 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: What do you got, Todd? 98 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: Well, it kind of plain enough you, Jim, is can 99 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 2: this core deliver the goods? 100 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: You know? 101 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: The whole plan of the offseason or the you know, 102 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: everything that Dave has come out of Dave Dombrowski's mouth 103 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: this offseason is we've got the star players. We've committed 104 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: to the star players. We spent all this money. We 105 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: we we have Bryce Harper, we signed Trey Turner to 106 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: a three hundred million dollars We signed re signed Zach 107 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: Wheeler to a contract c cential. We're gonna start making 108 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: forty two million dollars a year. We signed Aaron Nola 109 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 2: to one hundred and seventy. 110 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: Three million dollar contract. 111 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: We brought in, We've got the stars, they just need 112 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: to deliver. So they've nibbled around the edges with these 113 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: complimentary players. So to me, it's can this core deliver 114 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: the goods? And that's what this front office, that's what 115 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 2: this ownership group has really been banking on, or is 116 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: banking on coming into twenty five, which is we have 117 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: the players. We're gonna get Max Kepler, We're gonna add 118 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: Hazelus Lozzardo, We're gonna add Joe Ross and Jordan Romano. 119 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: But in the end, it's going to be how. 120 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: Those big guys Harper, Schwarber, Castianos, Turner, Real Muto, are 121 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: they going to step up and deliver in the postseason. 122 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 2: If they do, they think that this team is good 123 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: enough to win the World Series. I also think this 124 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: team is good enough to win the World Series. If 125 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: those guys step up in October. You know, it hasn't 126 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: happened the last couple of years, does not mean it's 127 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: not going to happen cannot happen in twenty twenty five. 128 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: I'm of that mindset. 129 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: I know a lot of fans are very frustrated. I 130 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: ran into a neighbor the other day and he goes, 131 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 2: he said, so, my neighbor. He stops me on the 132 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: street and he goes, I listen, man, I gotta tell you, 133 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 2: I'm really sick and tired of hearing how this team 134 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 2: just needs to get hot at the right time. I 135 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: don't want to hear it anymore. 136 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's kind of true. They do have to 137 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: get hot at the right time. You know. 138 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: The twenty twenty two Phillies should not have been in 139 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:53,239 Speaker 2: the World Series. 140 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: Let's be honest. They were. 141 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: They just barely got into the playoffs, but they got 142 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: hot at the right time and. 143 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 1: They went all the way to the World Series. 144 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 2: Two thousand and eight Phillies, they were not the best 145 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: team in baseball, but they got hot at the right 146 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: time and they won the World Series and now they're legends. 147 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: So you know, there's it is true. These guys get 148 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: hot at the right time, they can beat anybody in 149 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball. So for me, it is the It 150 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: is the core stepping up and delivering. 151 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: What is the. 152 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: Thing you guys are most curious to see in twenty 153 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: five And that could be anything, Ruben, what are you 154 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: kind of most curious to see in twenty twenty five? 155 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: So where I am most curious is whether or not 156 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 4: Alec Bohm can bounce back from all the rumors, whether 157 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 4: he can be the guy that he was one of 158 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 4: the best third basemen in the game, I think or 159 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 4: can be and he's really improved defensively. How does he 160 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 4: react to all the bs that was going on as 161 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: far as his rumors and stuff and getting traded and 162 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 4: now he's just getting in Phillies' uniform, And how. 163 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: Does he bounce back to be the guy? 164 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, it's really it's about him 165 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 4: pulling his bootstraps up and saying, hey man, I got 166 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 4: to go get it. 167 00:07:58,680 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: And I think he's done that once. 168 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 4: I mean he did it once when earlier in his 169 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 4: career when he mouthed off about the fans and then. 170 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 6: Bounced right back got some support from the fans. Will 171 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 6: he had the same sort of support this year because 172 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 6: he fell off last year? Will he have the same 173 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 6: sort of support from the fans? Does he need that support? 174 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 4: I think that's a really big question mark because he 175 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 4: is going to be huge in the part in the 176 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 4: middle of that lineup, because if you do go Harper, 177 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 4: Boom and then Schwarber he became in that lineup, it 178 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 4: becomes a very very very important part of them having 179 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 4: the ability. 180 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: To get to the World Series. That's a good one. 181 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: That's a great answer. Can I get a quick one 182 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: word answer before I give them on for both of 183 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: you guys, are we both convinced he's on the opening 184 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 3: day Philly's roster? 185 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I think I am too. 186 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, I mean it's going on a. 187 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 4: Little time, and I still I'm telling you it will 188 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 4: be a something short of a miracle if he's not. 189 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree, though. I think their ears remain open. 190 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 3: And that leads me to my what I'm What am 191 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 3: I most interested to see? And there's a lot of 192 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: things I can't give you, you know, I have a 193 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 3: tough time pinpointing one, but I will. I'm gonna just 194 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 3: see how Aiden Miller continues to progress and develop. He 195 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: got the Triple A last year as a hell of 196 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: a prospect, you know, a good, really good two way 197 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 3: player of ball, jumps off his bat, he can play 198 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: some defense, great IQ, great intangibles. How you know, quickly 199 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 3: does he progress through Double A? Does he get to 200 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 3: Triple A? And I think he's knocking on the door 201 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: after this season, And the reason it kind of dovetails 202 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 3: in with Alec Bow because he's into his final two 203 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: years of control. These trade rumors, whether or not they 204 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 3: come true this winter, during the season or next winter 205 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 3: or not lead you to believe that at some point 206 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: he's going to move on. So can Aiden Miller be 207 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: the third baseman? Will he play some third base in 208 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: the minor leagues? Also moving over to shortstop, trade Turner's 209 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 3: position status that shortstop could be in flux. We could 210 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 3: see him in the outfield at some point here next 211 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: year or so two years. I mean, certainly when you 212 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: look at some of his defensive decline, you think that's 213 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 3: a possibility. So with two spots on the left side 214 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 3: of the infield potentially in flux in the next year, 215 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 3: the next two years, I'm really curious to see what 216 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: Aiden Miller looks like and can he plug one of 217 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: those holes, and how far away he is, and we'll 218 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: maybe get a little look at that in twenty twenty five. 219 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been you know, he's somebody that they're really 220 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: counting on. I know the ownership group in the front 221 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: office is they've been reluctant to trade. 222 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 4: Him there they really well, he's a very advanced hitter. 223 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: So we'll see. 224 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really curious to see what Max Kepler can 225 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: do in left field coming off an injury, coming he 226 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 2: hasn't been healthy a lot over his career. Much of 227 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: his career, I think he hasn't had over like four 228 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: or ninety played appearances since like twenty nineteen, and the 229 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: Phillies signed him to a one year, ten million dollar 230 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: deal to be their everyday left fielder. 231 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: Can he do the job? 232 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: You know that there's been there was a lot of 233 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: talk entering the off season about how the Phillies were 234 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: going to address the outfield. They said that we need 235 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 2: to go out and find an outfielder that can step 236 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: up and perform. And they're I don't want to say 237 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: they're totally rolling the dice on somebody, but you know, 238 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: he had some injury issues last season. 239 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: He underperformed. It was a down season for him. 240 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: So they really need him to step up and be 241 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: the player that they project him to be because if 242 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: he's not that kind of that will be an issue. 243 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me a little bit of when, uh, 244 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: and we understand why it happened, but when the you know, 245 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 2: with the Phillies let Jason Worth go after the twenty 246 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 2: ten season and he kind of went in this I 247 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 2: think in the following season was like John Mayberry Junior, 248 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: Ben Francisco, you know, we we we really think that 249 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: you know, different guys. Of course, Max Max Kepler has 250 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 2: a much longer track record and much more successful track 251 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: record than those players. But the point being is that 252 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: you go into a season going we think these guys 253 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 2: can step up and produce. We think this guy can 254 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: step up and produce and show well, and then if 255 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 2: he doesn't, you're sitting there in July going, man, maybe 256 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: we have to make another move for another corner outfielder. 257 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 2: You know, maybe we need to find that right handed 258 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: bat that you know, we thought Austin Hayes was going 259 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: to be. Maybe we need to find a bat that 260 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: we thought Max Kepler was going to be. So I 261 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: think if he can step up and kind of recapture 262 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: that form, that would be a that would be a 263 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: huge boost to the lineup. 264 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 4: So yeah, well there's no question about it. He's gonna 265 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 4: have a bulls eye on him. People are gonna say, well, 266 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 4: you know they're running it back. You know, they're running 267 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 4: it back the same players. And if this guy can 268 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 4: step forward and be the type of player he may not. 269 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: Be the right Rula Badias who ended. 270 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 4: Up replacing Pat Burrow, but if he can be a 271 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 4: productive player, positive. I mean, it's hard to be an 272 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 4: everyday player in the big leagues, and he's been one 273 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 4: and has had some success doing it. And can he 274 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 4: make that adjustment to left field as opposed to being 275 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 4: in right field for most of his career. 276 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: Biggest fear for twenty twenty five I'll start here and 277 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: I think it maybe it would be your biggest guys 278 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: this fear for twenty twenty five, and that is uh oh, 279 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: something has happened to Zach Wheeler, something has happened to 280 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: Aaron Nola, some some sort of starting pitching issue happens 281 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: where you lose those guys, and not just Wheeler and Nola, 282 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 2: but anything. You know, a couple of guys go down 283 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: in that starting rotation and now you're suddenly dipping into 284 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: that depth. You're dipping into Joe Ross, who you're hoping 285 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: to be the third or fourth right hand in the bullpen, 286 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: is now making some starts. Now you're hoping that. Now 287 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 2: you're looking to it, Oh my gosh, is Taiwan Walker 288 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: going to be in the rotation? Do we need him 289 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: or some of those other guys? So it you don't 290 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: want to lose Zach Wheeler, Aaron Nola rangerswar as. You 291 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: want Jesus Lozardo's back to be healthy, which he says 292 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: he thinks it will be healthy. You want Christopher Sanchez 293 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: to kind of continue where he left off as an 294 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: All Star in twenty twenty four. The rotation, we know it, 295 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: We've seen it. Starting pitching is so important to a 296 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: team's success. You don't want those guys to get hurt. 297 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: That's my biggest fear. That would be my biggest fear 298 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: for the Phillies in twenty twenty five. 299 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 3: I'm right with you. I'm sorry to be to duplicate, 300 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 3: but you know, health is my biggest fear because the 301 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 3: team is getting older. A lot of guys are upward 302 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: of thirty now. You know, some very high mileage arms 303 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: in the rotation. You've had some injuries, you know, short 304 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: stints on the il in the lineup the last few years, 305 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: and you know, you just wonder, and they've been very resilient, 306 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: but there are limits. So you know, they have a 307 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: star started corps lineup, they have some really good starting pitching, 308 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: a couple of workhorses at the top. I just I 309 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 3: would fear, like any other team, breakdowns and I think 310 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: continued durability in the rotation and good health in the 311 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: lineup is a must. Is a must because the personnel 312 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: is good, but it's not good if it's in the 313 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: trainer's room. 314 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 4: So here's here's the two things that I'll make make 315 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 4: a point of, and I totally agree with you, guys, health, 316 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 4: especially in the rotation. 317 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: But the other part of that health in the rotation. 318 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: Does it put a little little pressure on the front 319 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: office to move Andrew Painter's timeline. And that's the fear 320 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: that I have. 321 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 4: I mean, Painters gotta make sure that he is ready 322 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 4: to be in the big leagues physically, you know, not 323 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 4: just physically as far as his arm is concerned. 324 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: But like his whole makeup, the whole, you know, his 325 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: whole development. 326 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 4: I mean, he is in a lot of ways the 327 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 4: future of the franchise because he's so important, he's that good. 328 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 4: And so does it put a little finger pressure on 329 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: Dave Dombrowski if one of the big boys in the 330 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 4: top end of the rotation go down. Okay, he was 331 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 4: supposed to be in the big leagues in July. Now 332 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 4: we've got to push him to maybe end of may 333 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 4: or June or something like that. To the big leagues, 334 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 4: and I'm fearful that that's something that might happen if 335 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 4: there's a breakdown in the rotation. 336 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: The other thing that I will say about my biggest 337 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: fear is obviously the rotation health. But if J. 338 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: TB. 339 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 4: Real Muto goes down, guess what, boys, there's trouble because 340 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 4: and I'll say this, he's getting a little longer too, 341 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 4: and al he's in great shape. He's a great athlete. 342 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 4: Of Marshawn, who's I think is going to be the 343 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 4: backup quarterback, backup catcher, I think he's going to end up, 344 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 4: you know, getting an opportunity to play quite a bit. 345 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: He has trouble staying healthy. 346 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 4: And so if real Muto goes down and now you 347 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 4: have a guy like Marshawn who I think can catch 348 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 4: every day, I'm not sure if he can do it physically, 349 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 4: he's then showing he's a to do that. Catching every 350 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 4: day in the big leagues is a totally different thing. 351 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 4: If you lose that number one catcher man, there could 352 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 4: be some real issues with the club overall as far 353 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 4: as they're catching. His concernatis in you're going to the 354 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 4: tandem of Marshawn and stunts, and I don't have a 355 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 4: ton of confidence that. 356 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: They can stay healthy enough to make it through the season. 357 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 3: I totally agree on all your points. I mean, your 358 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: point about Painter is really that would be interesting and 359 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 3: timely because you know, look, we knew he wasn't gonna 360 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: be here at the beginning, and we knew they were 361 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 3: gonna go slow with him. But Dave Dobrowski kind of 362 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: finally laid it all out last week. What they're gonna do. 363 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 3: He's gonna be in camp. He's gonna throw bullpens, he's 364 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: gonna do all the drills, he's gonna get instruction. He's 365 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 3: gonna interact with the Wheeler and Nola, which I think 366 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 3: is gonna be really valuable for him. But he's not 367 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 3: gonna pitch in Great Fruit League games. They're gonna, you know, 368 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 3: budget his innings, try to get most of his innings 369 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 3: at the big leagues with him arriving around July. I 370 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: think that's a good plan. 371 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 4: Uh. 372 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: And you raised the fear that they would expedite that 373 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 3: if there's an injury. I I think they know how 374 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 3: important he is, and I don't see any way in 375 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 3: how they expedite I think they're going to be committed 376 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 3: to this plan like you were committed to Nola the 377 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 3: plan there, and I think they have to be. But 378 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 3: I it's we're all kind of The Painter thing is interesting. 379 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 3: I'm glad. I'm glad you you introduced it to the 380 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 3: conversation because I mean, you know, he figures in every 381 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 3: one of my answers storyline most curious. 382 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: Well, he's good. I mean he's somebody that you know, 383 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: the fans are gonna be like, we gotta bring well yeah, yeah. 384 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: You think of like if a couple of starters would 385 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 2: go down for whatever reason, a bad hamstring injury, somebody's 386 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: got a tender elbow. Uh, you. 387 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: Want you wonder you sorry, guys, you didn't. You didn't 388 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 3: mean yourself. You you in your camera off. 389 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: That's pretty funny. That is funny. Oh my gosh. 390 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: But what I was gonna say is, imagine the pressure 391 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: if a couple of starters go down in April and May, 392 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: and this team is starting to kind of teeter a 393 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: little bit because the starting pitching is really struggling. 394 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: There will be a lot of pressure on the front 395 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: office that. 396 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: Even even even if they don't even if they don't 397 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 2: act upon it. 398 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: They're You're gonna be hearing a lot of fans. 399 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 2: I'm getting a lot of questions about you're really gonna 400 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: like torpedo your chances to make this postseason because you 401 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 2: know you want to give Andrew Paynton. What's the difference 402 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 2: between what's the difference between June thirtieth debut and a 403 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: May thirtieth debut. 404 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: You're gonna sacrifice your. 405 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 3: Season on one month? 406 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: Come on, I mean, how soft are you? You know 407 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: you're gonna get some of that type of stuff. 408 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: But they're gonna you're gonna be monitoring his readiness. You know, 409 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 3: you can always adjust a decision, you know, based They're 410 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 3: gonna have somebody at his side the whole season, and 411 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 3: they're gonna if they have a need up here, they're 412 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 3: gonna evaluate his readiness. But I don't think whatever happens, 413 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 3: I don't think it'll be a hasty decision because they 414 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 3: know how important this guy is. 415 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 4: So the only thing that I will tell the fans 416 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 4: at this stage is I know Dave Dombrowski and then 417 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 4: people talk about, you know, them being reluctant to get 418 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 4: guys to the major leagues. Guess what, my friends, Dave 419 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 4: Dombrowski is not afraid to bring somebody into the big leagues. 420 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 4: He could be six years old. If he feels like 421 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,239 Speaker 4: he's ready to go, Dave dem Browski will bring him 422 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 4: to the big leagues out you know, Andrew Bennettendee, you know, 423 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 4: we we went through this when I was when I 424 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 4: was coaching with the with the Right Red Sox. I mean, 425 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 4: they brought him to the big leagues immediately. They had 426 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 4: a chance to you know, to maybe get you know, 427 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 4: a more veteran outfielder, and they were like, you know what, 428 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 4: this kid's probably ready to go. 429 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 1: Let's bring him. 430 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he didn't have a he didn't have a 431 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 3: rebuilt elbow when he was a position guy. 432 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: I could I know that. 433 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 3: So it's not being aggressive. I could see them being 434 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 3: aggressive with Crawford or Miller. But I think the fact 435 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 3: that starting pitching is such a commodity, aces are such 436 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 3: a commodity, and he's been caught on, you have to 437 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: be But it's not make a hasty decision. 438 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 4: But it's not It's not going to be a decision 439 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 4: based on whether the guy is mentally or emotionally ready. 440 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 4: It's going to be a decision as to whether he's 441 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 4: physically ready and it's best for his long term. For 442 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 4: his long term, I mean, David NEBRASKI will make the 443 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 4: right decision because he's been around the game too long. 444 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 4: He understands, uh, he understands the importance of long term 445 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 4: and short term. And the decision is not going to 446 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 4: be based on whether he's ready physically or it's going 447 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 4: to be because it's the right thing to do, and. 448 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: They want to get He's only got so many bullets 449 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 3: this year, so many innings, so much workload, whatever you 450 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: want to call it, and they want to get the 451 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 3: bulk of it in the major leagues. So, you know, 452 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 3: do you want to bring him in May and have 453 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: him and have to shut him down by Labor Day? 454 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 3: I think you probably want to bring him a little 455 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 3: later and see if you can take him right to October. 456 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: Let's let's wrap with this Bold per Day for twenty one. 457 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 2: Bold prediction for twenty twenty five. Now I went back 458 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 2: and I remember this. We do this at MLB dot com. 459 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 2: You know, early in this season or early in early 460 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: in the year, we will. 461 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: Make a bold prediction. And my bold prediction this is 462 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: pretty bold. 463 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen I said, Nick Pivett is going to 464 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: make the All Star team, and I'll all Star team. 465 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: That didn't work out, So that was but that was 466 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: a bold prediction. It was bold. 467 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 2: That was bold. That was a bold prediction. Do you 468 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 2: guys have a similar bold prediction. Maybe you'll be more 469 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: accurate than me, James, but but also you know, hey, 470 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: if you're wrong, you're wrong. 471 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: It's a bold prediction. 472 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: Don't be afraid prediction. 473 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: Don't be afraid. Be bold, Jim Bold, be bold. 474 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: Remember that T shirt like guy used to be as. 475 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: A GM I was bold, you were bold, Be bold. 476 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: I remember those T shirts since Gabe Kapler's first spring 477 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: training with the Phillies. 478 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 3: Be I. I remember Pat Gillick once said, yeah, I'm 479 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 3: more of a shopper, Ruben's a buyer. 480 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: He did say that. I remember that call. That was 481 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: a great line. 482 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 3: True, you were bold, You're true your Philadelphia boldness. I 483 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 3: could make a lot of goofy ass bold predictions, but 484 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna make a a reasoned prediction. 485 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: Okay. 486 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 3: I saw improvement in Orion Kirkering last year. I think 487 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 3: he's got some he's got some some belly, you know, 488 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 3: he's got some gravel and he's got some toughness, some makeup. 489 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: I think he could ascend even on a team that 490 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: doesn't like to anoint closers. 491 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 4: I think he could. 492 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 3: Ascend to the closers role this year. And my bold 493 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 3: prediction is he will get twenty two to twenty five 494 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 3: saves and emerges this team's closer at some point. There 495 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 3: you go. 496 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: That's why I like it. 497 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 4: I thought you're gonna say. I thought you're gonna say 498 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 4: thirty would be really bold, but nothing. That's pretty much. 499 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: That is a big number for I feel is that's 500 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: a big number for the Phillies. That's a good one. 501 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: Here's my bold prediction. 502 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 4: And I think I may try to predict this before, 503 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 4: but I'm going to come out of my shoes and 504 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 4: say that Bryson Stott's going to make a run adding 505 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 4: title in twenty twenty five. 506 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 3: Wow. 507 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: I think he's going to make a run at the 508 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: bating title in twenty twenty five. 509 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 4: I think his elbow is going to be healthy. I 510 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 4: think he's going to make a readjustment. I love I 511 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 4: love the player because I know he wants to be 512 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 4: really good. I can't say that he's like has Chase 513 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 4: utly mentality. But he's that type of player, and I 514 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 4: think he's going to have a high expectation of himself. 515 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: I think he's going to bounce back and have a 516 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: hell of a year. I think he's going to make 517 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: a run and you think he's going to do it 518 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: out of the one hole. Ruby, you read my my doublet. 519 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: You can't read it on the paper, but I have 520 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: Stott circled. That was my bold prediction is that Bryson 521 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: Scott makes the NL All Star team, like following up 522 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: after because of his health. 523 00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: He you know, this is a guy who. 524 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: Mid August twenty twenty three was hitting over three hundred. 525 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: He struggled the final five weeks of the season. I 526 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: think he finished around two eighty ish. But you know, 527 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 2: obviously he wasn't healthy last year. So for a lot 528 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: of the same reasons, I think he's he's he's somebody 529 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 2: that can have a big bounce back here. 530 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: That's my bold prediction. 531 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: So Rubin, and I was gonna say lead off hitter 532 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: because I was going to ask you, Rubin, you said 533 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: lead off, new leadoff hitter at the top of the lineup, 534 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 2: Who would you hit leadoff? 535 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: So you're saying maybe Bryce, and that's my guy. He's 536 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: my guy. Is he now to steal thirty bags? Is 537 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: he your opening day? The opening day? 538 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 3: Baby? 539 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: Right out of the shoot? Wow, Okay, that's that's I 540 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: like that. 541 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 4: I like that because the five hole, Scher in the 542 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 4: sixth hole, and Kepler in the seven hole. 543 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: Okay, you got Turner two, you got Turner two, Harper 544 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: three boom four, Schwarber five boom. 545 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 3: I like it. 546 00:25:55,280 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: Six seven, left, right, left, right, left, right, left right, Man, 547 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: let's go, Cat jt Real hitting eighth, let's go. And 548 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to be the manager. That's Rob Thomas's job. 549 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: I like those. There's some good bold predictions. This is 550 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: some good look ahead, some good top storylines we have. 551 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 2: Well, we'll get in a lot of we'll dig into 552 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff more in the coming weeks. 553 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 4: I've got another one. I think Trey Turner is gonna 554 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 4: bounce back and be a top three. I have this 555 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 4: one of my second one. 556 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna be a top three and then an MVP voting. Okay, 557 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: I think that he's good. I think he's gonna turn 558 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: it around. 559 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 4: I know I know that there's been Oh why would 560 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 4: we sign a three hundred million dollar contract. 561 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: This guy's a really good player. 562 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 4: I think that he's I think that he's gonna bounce 563 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 4: back and have a phenomenal years. I think he's gonna 564 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 4: have thirty home runs. I think he's gonna have at 565 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 4: least thirty bags. I think he's gonna drive in, you know, 566 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 4: close to one hundred runs. I think he's gonna score 567 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 4: well more than one hundred runs. I think he's gonna 568 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 4: have a phenomenal season. I think this would be a 569 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 4: top three m VP. 570 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 3: Well, that's gonna really help the team because I you know, 571 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 3: I think we, yeah, we talked about this last summer. 572 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 3: It's like kind of when he's playing good, they win 573 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 3: like wins follow. 574 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: That guy, no doubt. 575 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: Well, Reuben, when you do say that, you know, we 576 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 2: talked about fans kind of being down and running it 577 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: back and whatnot. But man, if you if Trey Turner 578 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: finishes top three for n L m VP, it's really 579 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 2: easy to see this team winning the NL East. It's 580 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: really easy seeing this team going a deep run in October. 581 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: You know, if you don't have the squint, don't I 582 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: personally don't think you have to squint too much to 583 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 2: see that those types of things happening. If the core 584 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: players like Trey Turner have a big year, if Bryson 585 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 2: Stott is hitting lead off for this team. If Bryson 586 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 2: starts hitting lead off for this team, that means he's hitting, 587 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 2: you know, close to three hundred, maybe better than three hundred. 588 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 2: He's getting on base at a great clip. That means 589 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 2: all those other guys slide down, like you said, really 590 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: easy to see this team scoring a ton of runs 591 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: and winning a lot of baseball games. 592 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 6: I love it. 593 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: I love I like it. I like that lineup. I 594 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: don't know if that's what it's going to be, but yeah, 595 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: but I like that one. 596 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 3: I actually considered for my bold prediction. I considered, uh, 597 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 3: Bryce Harper leading off thirty games. 598 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 2: Wow, well, I could see that happening too. I could 599 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 2: see that happening too, and we will. I think we 600 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: talked about this maybe a couple of weeks ago, Jim, 601 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 2: after the winter meetings, when Rob Thompson mentioned, you know, 602 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,239 Speaker 2: that was mentioned he would you consider Bryce hitting lead off? 603 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: He said, well, you know, you get more at bats 604 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: over the course of the season. You know, it can 605 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: help your Hall of Fame chances. So it's it sounds 606 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: to me like that's something that's been kicking around as 607 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: in mine. You know, you have Atani hitting lead off, 608 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: the door, hitting lead off. A lot of the baseball's 609 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: best hitters are hitting lead off now when there may 610 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: be more traditional three four guys. 611 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is not my official bold prediction, but if 612 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 3: it happens, we'll we'll splice it in. We will splice 613 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 3: it in. 614 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 2: You're like, I remember you, Jim on January first, ding, 615 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: Bryce Harper is gonna hit lead up and god dang it, 616 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: you nailed it. So all right, we'll be back next week, guys. 617 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: I was fun little twenty twenty five look ahead. 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