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It is the top of the week, 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:48.240 which means it's time for some strange news, and we're 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.680 going to talk about some crime. We're going to talk 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.880 about some surveillance. We're going to talk about, of course, 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:58.560 a couple of heist gone wrong. We are going to 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:02.800 ask what rough beast slouches towards the Bethlehem of the 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:07.280 Dead Internet theory before we do any of that. Fellow 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:12.360 conspiracy realist, we are fans of music in all form, 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:20.679 and Noel, you found a pretty amazing story. 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:24.959 Well yeah, I mean, you know, a lot of the 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:30.920 conversation around AI, especially as it pertains to corporations using AI, 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:36.039 sort of feels like this desperate attempt to capitalize on 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:39.240 the hot new technology or whatever, not even to mention 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:44.600 the dystopian aspects of AI the job depriving the future 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:47.840 aspects of AI or a machine learning to be a 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:52.120 little more accurate. So it's kind of rare even when 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.400 you see one that seems a little innocuous, Like you know, 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:58.320 the Beatles released a pretty nothing burger of a song 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.200 that I've already literally forgot in the name of where 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:05.520 they used AI to clean up the audio on a 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:09.000 John Lennon demo. Essentially that was like I think him 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:12.240 playing a tune on the piano, and they used AI 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:15.480 as you know, an interesting tool. It wasn't like to 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:19.520 resurrect John Lennon's from the Dead, you know, to fully 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.400 create this thing that never actually happened. It was you know, 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:26.240 using you know, machine learning as a forensic tool of 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:27.600 audio reconstruction. 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:29.359 I do like John Lennon's. 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:33.040 By the way, John Lennons, there's there's there could be 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:36.440 more than one. If hey if if, if big corporate 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:39.320 America has their way, there will be many John Lennons 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.160 fed by machine learning. But you know, there was a 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.800 lot made of that story when it came out because 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:46.920 there were a lot of people saying, oh gross, using 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:51.360 AI to you know, dishonor the dead and create this song. 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.360 Not cool beatles, but a lot of those stories buried 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:56.280 the leader at the very least people chose not to 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.000 look into a little bit deeper beyond the headlines to 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:01.400 determine yes and fact. That was just a use of 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:05.560 that kind of software, that kind of technology as a tool. 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:07.920 And you know, Matt and I work pretty extensively with 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:11.480 audio and stuff and using tools like isotope RX to 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.760 you know, clean up noisy recordings, get rid of things 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.200 like room tone or the drone of an air conditioning. 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.560 And while I know a lot of audio plugins are 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.840 starting to use more machine learning algorithms to figure that 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:26.640 kind of stuff out, it's sort of still kind of, 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:28.240 you know, the early days for that kind of stuff, 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:29.920 and you're really just starting to see some of those 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.440 tools incorporating this technology. I think we could all agree 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:35.000 that's pretty cool. That's a use of that tech that's 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:38.440 neat and that actually is a value and is still 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:42.480 requiring engineers to implement the tool and to use it, 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.040 you know, to create great audio, whether it be in 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.640 podcasts or in music. You know, with so many people 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.760 recording records at home. Being able to clean up audio 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:53.480 that maybe wasn't recorded in the most optimal situations is 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:54.360 a really cool thing. 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.120 Well, just really quickly on that, think about all of 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:00.680 the amazing tools that exist for video editing and how 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.440 far that's come. Right, being able to isolate elements back 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:06.840 the image and like do all that kind of stuff. 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.760 Adaptive whatever it can sense, the edges it can sense, 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:14.120 you can replace elements to create really cool video effects, 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:15.760 not just deep fakes. 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:18.520 Yeah, it's super good at this, by the way, folks. 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:20.680 But what I'm saying is even before any of this 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:24.760 AI integration, video effects and editing and the way you 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:30.240 could manipulate a visual image became was becoming extremely powerful 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.599 the things you could do right. But with audio for 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:34.839 a long time, I think it has to do with 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:36.719 the nature of the wave and the signal and what 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:40.000 you actually get when you record right. With microphones and things, 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:44.599 it's very hard to separate pieces, right. Let's say, if 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:46.760 there's a sound that occurs at the same time as 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.560 another sound. For a long time, there was almost no 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:53.440 way besides isolating specific frequencies to do anything. 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.960 I used to work at a guitar shop. You probably 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.479 have an idea or can't imagine how often people came 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.279 in and said, hey, you got to miss That'll cut 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:04.000 the vocal out of this scene so I can make 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.640 it into a karaoke track. I kid you not. It 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:11.160 happened once every couple of days. So now to your point, Matt, 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:14.520 through machine learning, that is possible, and I couldn't exactly 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.200 explain to you how it's done, but there are quite 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.120 a few tools that can do just that. And the 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:21.520 long winded way of getting to today's story that I brought, 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.159 which is about the country singer Randy Travis who in 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:27.440 twenty thirteen suffered a severe stroke that left him unable 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.440 to speak, which of course means unable to sing. He 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:34.360 also had had issues with mobility due to that and 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.400 has you know, largely faded from the public spotlight since 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.680 that point. You might know Randy Travissey. I think he 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.800 had hits like as far back as like the early eighties. 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:46.160 My girlfriend, who's a bit of a country enthusiast, it's 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:49.359 not my particular genre of choice. I think I like 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.160 classic country. I like outlawk country, that kind of stuff. 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:56.000 More of the schmaltzy kind of radio country stuff like 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.240 that doesn't really do it for me, but you could 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.240 argue Randy Travis sort of straddles those genres. And I 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.320 think one of his famous songs is called like for 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.919 I Love You Forever and Ever a man as long 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:10.600 as Old Women talk about Old Man or something like that, 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:13.560 and didn't quite bail it, but it's apparently a really 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.400 really sweet song. And he was known for having a 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:20.560 very kind of non traditional, very laid back delivery, and 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:22.839 that was sort of his you know, stocking trade, and 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.560 so he was very beloved, not necessarily known as like 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.520 a belter per se or having like this some kind 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:33.480 of crazy range, much more of an everyman kind of singer. 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:33.760 You know. 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:37.080 On the other hand, that's worth it for like twelve people. 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.760 On the other hand, is that a ready Travis dress. 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:45.040 On the other head, of course, he is a we're 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:50.080 talking about this off air. He's kind of a comfortable, 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.240 hangout singer. That's exactly right, right. 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:56.320 So essentially what's happened here, and again, this is an 0:06:56.320 --> 0:07:00.400 initiative through this record company, Warner you know, Warner Brothers, 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:04.919 Warner Media whatever their record wing of that giant media conglomerate. 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.400 But I would argue a pretty good one of like, hey, 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:09.840 we're going to try it out the use of this 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:14.880 AI technology to give Randy Travis his voice back, with 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:20.280 full cooperation from Randy himself, from his legacy producer of 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:24.880 many years, and a fellow country singer named James Dupree 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.320 who kind of laid down what you might call the 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.920 guide vocal for the track. So basically, you sing the 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.360 song kind of knowing how Randy's cadences might go and 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:37.400 the way he might deliver the song, and then by 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.440 going through forensically scraping I guess, I mean, I think 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.080 that terms kind of become a little gross too, but 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.640 you get what I'm saying. His back catalog. I think 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:49.000 they took forty two of his isolated vocal tracks, which 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.600 you might call stems in the parlance of recording. It's 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:55.119 just the vocal part solo. No AI required, right, because 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:58.280 you have the original master tapes, which is multi track, 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.280 so all of those things can be then split out out. 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:04.400 So forty two of his vocal isolated recordings were then analyzed, 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:11.040 let's say, and overlaid on top of this James Dupree vocal, 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:17.400 and apparently the results A it's charting, it's debuted where 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:21.160 that came from the song, the new song from Randy Travis. 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:24.520 And in this situation where there's agency, I think you 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.760 can call it by Randy Travis. What do you guys 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:28.800 think about that? Let let's start with that first of all, 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.720 if there is co signed by the artist himself, not 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.560 Drake dropping an AI rap verse on a you know, 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:39.440 disk track from Tupac of course, who is not with us, 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.839 and also from Snoop Dogg. Weirdly, we actually didn't talk 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:43.920 about that in our Drake segment. That's one of the 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.520 weirdest parts of that whole rap u. That is no 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:50.560 agency that is done without the permission of the people 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:54.000 living or deceased, their families that have that have been 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.720 left behind, and you know, Tupac's estate had a real 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:58.280 problem with that and had it taken down. But in 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:00.719 this case there has been all of the things and 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:04.120 Randy himself. So can you really call this a Randy 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.880 Travis song? This is really kind of a new frontier 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:11.440 of media, Like he didn't actually sing it. This other 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:14.360 guy sang it, but then they took his voice and 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:18.959 they overlaid it and he was involved. You know, it's 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.079 very interesting question. I don't know what you guys think 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:22.760 about that, And then we'll get to some other stuff 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:24.080 with some other aspects of this story. 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.120 Well, I haven't heard it, guys. Does it sound like 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.240 it's just him recording in a booth? 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:31.920 I think so. I mean, you know this kind of 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:35.199 very polished country. It's got a certain sheen to it. 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.640 You know a lot of theah, there's auto tune used 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:42.080 in big country artists, and auto tune again as a tool, 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:45.760 he's gotten more and more transparent where it doesn't sound 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:47.839 like auto tune. There's even this other auto tune is 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:51.840 actually these days, in my experience, used more to sound 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.440 like auto tune, where it is very much meant to 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:57.000 be an effect, like in trap music or or you know, 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:59.640 a Polish pop. It's almost like that robot voice that you. 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:03.480 Know he being could actually singul to know that. Check 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.839 out the Tiny Desk concert. The guy has a voice 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:06.400 of an angel. 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:10.920 Picasso could paint landscapes. The guy it was classically trained artists. 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:14.040 He just chose to paint like a like a small child. 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.199 I'm kidding. I love Picasso, but I'm saying people often 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:19.320 joke about like, how, oh man, anybody could do that? 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:21.640 Blah blah blah. No, a lot of these artists, they 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:24.360 made those choices. That is often the case with auto 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:26.520 tune these days. It's a choice, it's an aesthetic choice. 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:31.240 Melodine is another tool that is much more for correcting mistakes, 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.960 correcting little warbles, and it's real precise and I've used 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:38.680 it and it's it's miraculous. You've probably seen uh sort 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.000 of jokey videos online where someone will take a song 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.720 and retune it and like make it sound completely different. 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.960 That's all using melodye. So in my opinion, it does 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:50.079 sound like a real Randy Travis on me not being 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.040 a you know, Randy Travis super fan, I couldn't say 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:56.680 for sure, but by all accounts, he loved it. Apparently 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.280 he you know, when they played it for him. There's 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.600 a video of him kind of taking it all in 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:03.200 and you see him sort of go through this range 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:06.440 of emotions, and I believe the emotion that he lands 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:10.520 on is gratitude. He uses the word grace, you know, 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.600 in his discussion of this song, and he believes this 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.720 was a form of a divine second chance. 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:21.200 So like when a Frank Sinatra watched Pavati singing some 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:21.960 of his hits. 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.120 That's a good point, man, That's my question to you, guys. 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.000 Though it is like that sort of but it's also 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:31.679 different because it is charting as a new song from 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:35.559 the country megastar Randy Travis. But it's also that ship 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.280 of thesis kind of question, isn't it guys? Like, is 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.000 it really him? If it's actually sung by someone else 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:43.719 in the overlaid with pieces of him? I don't know. 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:47.160 I think it's that's a philosophical question, right, I don't 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:48.120 really have the answer. 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.360 Well, it's licensing at that point. 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:54.400 It is licensing, that's right, it's But at the same time, 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:58.480 it's a little different than Abba or Kiss selling their 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:03.400 likenesses to the the Hologram factory, you know, for constant 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:08.000 perpetual touring. You know, that's on rails. They've created this show. 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.080 There's see this is kind of on rails too. I 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.400 don't know, guys, I'd love to hear from conspiracy realists 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.840 out there. Is this really Randy Travis? Is that? Even 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:20.080 the point? I don't know. His producer, Kyle Lemming is 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:24.439 the one who went through the old recordings. The lyrics 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.800 are ten years old. So this is something that I 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:32.160 think was meant for him in the first place. I'm 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.400 not one hundred percent sure, but it does have three 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:38.240 point three million streams in its very first week, which 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.200 is pretty neat. I just think this is sort of 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:44.000 like a feel good, a high story in the midst 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:47.040 of a lot of real scary, doom and gloom AI stories. 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.600 And I think I don't think anybody could argue that 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:53.320 this is a pretty interesting use of this tool, you know, 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:57.160 and other AI related I guess positive news or you 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.560 know where AI with agency news If anyone's familiar with 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:05.320 the singer and dancer, pretty amazing artist fka Twigs. She 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:09.480 actually spoke before like a house committee, I believe, on 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.720 the use of AI, and she has developed an AI 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:17.319 deep fake avatar of herself that she with agency from 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.400 her and her team want to be able to have 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:23.160 interact with fans. So, you know, is it a genie 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.800 out of the bottle kind of situation? If it's done correctly, 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.520 can you put the reins on it? Can it be 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:30.480 rained in? I guess there's a better way of putting that. 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.480 I don't know. I'd like to think so, but I 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.760 want to end. But I want to end this segment 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:37.719 unless you guys had any other stuff to add. 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.000 No, I can't wait to listen to the song. 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:41.920 I also want to give it another listen. 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:46.400 I will point out again broken record style. Hope me 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:53.160 on this. It is fundamentally philosophically fraudulent to describe any 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:54.920 intelligence as artificial. 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.640 It's fair. I think that's fair and a good reminder. 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:00.480 So this is really quick, and this is really just 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:02.079 for for laws, y'all. I think this is a really 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:06.640 sweet story. I recently came across a kind of a 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:10.920 new I guess burgeoning hilarious sort of joke scene on 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.319 the internet. We talked about dead Internet theory. A lot 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.319 of that is being perpetuated and really escalated by AI 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.680 content creation, right, but a lot of that stuff, I mean, 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.120 it's gonna get more advanced, like it does require prompts 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:26.000 from human beings. And I stumbled upon a treasure trove 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:31.400 of AI generated country songs. And this one here was 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.840 entirely AI generated. A human had to have prompted it. 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:38.480 Because you're gonna hear some some real themes here, y'all. Well, 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.760 let's just this is here real quick. This is a 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:45.240 big red cups. I got beer in my boots, dirn 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.440 on the truck, corn on the mone and a god 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:49.280 of my butt. 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:53.240 It's a stop town, leister's dirt, bleister's beer trucks. 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:53.920 And sure. 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:57.440 This is not bo Burnham, by the way. 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:05.640 Consent butts, red cups, dirty beer, folks. 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:12.640 I wish you could see Matt's pace right now. I 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.400 wish you could see an old dancing to this one. 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:25.760 The butts are proud, y'all, biscuit in my boot? 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:32.440 Sorry, all right enough, Oh my goodness, gracious, what do 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:33.760 you guys think about that? 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:38.440 I mean, guys, I live out in the country. 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:42.600 Now, yeah, you got big, you got boots and boots, trucks, 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.080 get mud, and there are any guns and butts out there? 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:49.720 Of course that's all. It's all true. No, no, it's 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.800 I feel offended on behalf of everybody that lives within 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.520 with several miles Listen. 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.600 That's why I point out that someone didn't just right 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:03.240 AI make a country song. Someone said make a country 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.400 song about guns and butts. Okay, that didn't come out 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:08.600 of whole cloth, I guarantee, because as we know, with 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.880 these tools, they require prompts, and sometimes these prompts can 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:15.000 be very targeted and focused, whether it be for visual 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:18.400 stuff or what have you. I thought that was really funny. 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:20.600 It made me laugh. I shared it with anyone who 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.480 would listen. Now I shared it with you. 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:29.240 AI is o Henry's Monkey Paul, also coming from parts 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:33.360 of rural Appalachia. I think they would dig this song. 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.760 I think they would do. It's a banger of a chorus, yeah, 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.200 and it certainly does when you when you when you 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:42.680 step away from the jokiness of it. If an AI 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:48.280 did compose the melody and hook of that, whether the 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.280 prompt you know that probably Again, I haven't messed with 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.840 one of these audio AI things like that, but pretty 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.680 impressive and a little scary in terms of what that 0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:00.680 means for pop music and artists like James Blake. I've 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:04.280 really come out saying how the record industries are really 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:07.880 pushing this narrative of like ten second clips for a TikTok, 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:11.040 five second, fifteen second clips from TikTok, which is pushing 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.400 the way music is consumed much more towards a world 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.480 where AI generated stuff would fly. 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:21.080 And that's not coolish. I would dig this song. 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:24.320 It's a real fist pumper, y'all, and I just think 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:26.800 it's gonna get weirder from there. So I use that 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.240 kind of jokey bit just to point out some of 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:32.000 the scary parts of this stuff too. Weren't you weren't 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:33.480 going to get an AI story on stuff that I 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:35.160 want you to know without a little bit of doom 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.000 sprinkled in there for good measure. So at least we 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.840 could wrap that doom. And you know, guns and butts. 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.960 Big red cups, dirty trucks, dirty truck dirty but. 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.560 A biscuit in my boot, corn on my mind. You know, 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.600 you know, I'm always out there thinking about that corn. Wow. 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.320 I don't know, guys, this is fun and scary and sweet. 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.760 I'm feeling a lot of emotions. Let's take a quick 0:17:57.760 --> 0:17:59.840 break here, a word from our sponsor, and then come 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:08.520 back with more strange news. 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.719 And we've returned. Guys, We've got a bit of a 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:14.520 mystery that's going to take us down let's say a 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:18.320 forking path, and we'll explore it as it forks. The 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:22.919 first story comes from CBS News or k COW News. 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:27.040 That's a California. It was posted on May eighth, twenty 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:31.760 twenty four, and it is regarding one woman's experience. The 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:35.639 title is hidden Camera Found planted outside of Chino Hills 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.960 woman's home. And I'm just going to read a couple 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:41.920 of the details here and then let's discuss A woman 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:44.639 living in Chino Hills, California, was disturbed to learn that 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:48.000 a camera disguised as a rock had been planted outside 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:50.600 of her home. The camera was planted in the ground 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:54.000 across the street from her house. It's believed that the 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:57.439 camera was placed on April twenty ninth, where it sat 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:01.400 for several days before being spotted by a neighbor. It 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.520 was a camera wrapped in clay to make it look 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.439 like a rock, and it was attached via cable to 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.600 a very large power bank that was actually larger than 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:13.439 the entire you know, fake rock itself. So like a 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:17.560 long term yeah, just sitting there across the street from 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:20.800 this house. The neighbor who found it was able to 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:23.920 actually download some of the images from it, so it's 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:26.120 not as though it was attached to Wi Fi. Well 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:29.240 maybe it was, but if it was attached to Wi Fi, 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:33.479 it was also capturing images locally to the device. So 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:36.520 the neighbor downloaded an image from the camera that showed 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:40.200 the moment the hand places it there. Somebody was wearing 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:43.320 a glove like looks like a gardener or something, places 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:46.520 it down there. But then the neighbors, knowing the date 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:50.080 and time, looked at their own security cameras and found 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:53.919 the moment that somebody rides up on a scooter and 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:57.560 just kind of, you know, stops for a moment, goes down, 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:01.040 puts something or messes with the ground in some way, right, 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.960 and then just rides right off. And that's it. That's 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:08.320 all they know. Uh So everybody is just trying to 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:12.600 figure out why, and the woman obviously is going, oh, okay, 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:16.080 what am I dealing with here? We've got several options, guys, 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:19.000 what do you think is most likely that this could be. 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:21.640 It's tough to guess without more information. 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:25.160 Okay, no, right options. I'll throw the first one out. 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:28.240 What if it is, and this one's way out there. 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:32.040 What if it is a BTK style person that is 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:36.000 casing a human being, watching a human being to see 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:39.800 their movements, their patterns and everything like that, like a serial. 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:43.040 Killer, a predator scoping like the bomb torture killed Dennis 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:50.560 Radar guy. Cinematic possible, but maybe not plausible. Those fates 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:51.280 are kind of rare. 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:54.800 Okay, Well, what would be more common then maybe uh, 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:58.520 burglar or someone who's casing the joint just to steal 0:20:58.560 --> 0:20:58.840 from it. 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:02.080 Yeah, that's I almost said a good one. That's a 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:03.280 more plausible one. 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:05.680 It's also a commitment to the bit, right, I mean, 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:06.240 you know. 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:13.840 The possibility of a stalker without necessarily serial killer level 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:18.320 predation at this point. You know, Matt, in the notes 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:23.600 you you said, this could also just be someone trying 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:27.639 to rob a house or chasing the joint for the 0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:29.240 worst hoa ever. 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:31.959 Yeah, it could be that. What if it's a private 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:36.239 investigator that was hired by some outside party that is 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:39.600 trying to capture something specific or activity going on? 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:42.240 Oh? Well, have you guys been watching this show Sugar 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:46.800 on on Apple TV. It's a private investigator type show. 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:48.879 It's set in the modern day, but it's kind of 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:52.600 got these old school you know, Noir detective advised. But 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:56.040 dude is constantly placing hidden cameras on stuff, right all 0:21:56.080 --> 0:21:56.400 the time. 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:58.919 Oh yeah, bigtim We'll get in situations. 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:02.080 Well, that's a common thing, right, especially if you're in 0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:06.040 a cheating spouse situation, A PI will place camera us 0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:06.880 in front. 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:08.919 To be completely wireless, it would have to have a 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:11.240 big old power supply like that you couldn't how would 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:13.440 it would be such a giveaway if you tapped somebody's 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:15.680 electricity or you know, it have to have a big 0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:17.639 old battery too, and then you probably have to go 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:19.440 back in and replace it with a charge one. 0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:22.560 And not to victim blame at all in any way, 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:26.840 but to understand this story, Matt, it sounds like we 0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:30.159 need to learn more about the woman in Chino Hills 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:34.400 she identified, Like is there do we know anything about 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:40.080 her background or possible like malevolent forces that might have interacted. 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:41.680 With No, we have, We have no information. This is 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:44.560 like a one off story that at least to my knowledge, 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:48.240 came out last week and it's that's all I've seen 0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:50.120 about it. And I haven't even pursued it further because 0:22:50.160 --> 0:22:52.160 I kind of don't want to know. That's that lady's business. 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:54.440 I don't want to whatever she's getting into. The reason 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:55.960 I'm bringing to you guys is to kind of go 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:59.280 down this pathway of why would someone place a hidden 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:03.400 camera across the street from a house. The only other 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:07.040 thing I have like thinking about it would be some 0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:11.159 kind of law enforcement issue where they're trying to watch 0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:15.359 either a house or a specific walkway where people are traveling. 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:19.119 But usually for law enforcement, you would have to have 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:21.879 a human being monitoring that stuff. So you've got that 0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:23.280 chain of custody thing. 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:25.800 Right, Yeah, in a windowless van, right. 0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:29.960 Yeah, usually a human being on hand somewhere making sure 0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:32.560 that at all times people know what is happening in 0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:33.760 time stamping things. 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:35.959 So and also I hope she's okay. 0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:38.280 Oh absolutely, I was joking about what did she do? 0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:40.840 No victim? Let me hear at all. I just want 0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:42.399 to add, Matt. I think one thing that piques all 0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:45.639 of our interests about this is the very clever, you know, 0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:48.880 camouflaging of the camera. It's not something that I've really 0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:51.160 thought about it or seen before. It's like a fake 0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:53.560 rock looking thing. Somebody puts some thoughts or time and 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:54.399 some energy into. 0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:56.040 This, Yeah, but then they just kind of covered it 0:23:56.080 --> 0:24:00.639 with leaves with a giant metal power thing attached to it. 0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:03.800 Okay, that's like a tracking compliment, You're right. 0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:08.640 It's just it's a weird combination of things, right, which 0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:09.640 just makes you go, what. 0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:11.000 Is going on? Laziness? 0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:14.840 Yeah, I guess so it is possible to be stupidly smart. 0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:17.879 Hey, there you go. There you go. So, guys, the 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:20.240 next story that I wanted to jump to from this 0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:24.360 thinking about this story is a story here from Boston 0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:27.080 twenty five News from a while ago. This is April 0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:30.040 twenty sixth, But it made me think about this story. 0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:33.880 There was a group of four men who were recently 0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:40.640 arrested for casing and burglarizing forty three homes. These four 0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:45.640 men carried out forty three successful burglaries and stole more 0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:49.520 than four million dollars worth of that's an estimate worth 0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:53.760 of valuables. It was across twenty five towns in Massachusetts 0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:55.480 from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty four. 0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:57.199 Oh that's a long time window. 0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:00.280 It is a really long time window. And here is 0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:03.080 the part that astounded me in reading the story. You guys, 0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:06.320 think about all the ring cameras out there, all of 0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:09.080 the simply safe and blah blah blah, all the r 0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:12.560 low cameras. These guys were only caught on camera out 0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:17.560 of forty three burglaries one time. One time. Isn't that 0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:20.359 kind of astounding. It makes you wonder how in the 0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:23.280 heck they could do that. And I learned about something 0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:27.080 through this article. I didn't know that you could jam 0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:30.640 Wi Fi signals in a local area as somebody who 0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:33.120 was not law enforcement or not, you know, and in 0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.479 working for an intelligence company, you can just get a 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:41.760 device that will jam Wi Fi signals, essentially making all 0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:45.200 of these camera systems inert because if they're not connected 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:48.280 to the Wi Fi generally they don't function unless there 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:50.360 are a specific type of camera. Of some of them 0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:52.679 will function whether they have signal or not, and they 0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:54.119 store locally and then upload. 0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.119 Yeah, really popular one is called the camera. 0:25:56.160 --> 0:25:58.320 Mamma jamma, camera, mamma jamma. 0:25:58.440 --> 0:25:59.680 I just made that up. That's not true. 0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:01.719 Oh I thought it is. 0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:05.520 Now we just lack mirrored it. Also, also, it is, 0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:10.000 to be fair, folks, it is completely legal to buy 0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:13.160 those products or to manufacture them on your own. 0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:18.640 Is that because it's all public air, like where you're 0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.320 jamming at like like I don't know, like who owns 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:22.000 the air? 0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:28.080 Okay, it's like it's illegal to shoot a person in general, 0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:30.840 but it is not illegal to buy a gun. It 0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:35.200 is legal to buy these sorts of things, these contraptions 0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:39.119 and the components that compose those contraptions, but the way 0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:44.280 you use them determines the legality or the illegality and. 0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:45.560 These great architectors. 0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:49.080 Right, Yeah, it's a good comparison. I don't know why 0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:51.600 I say comparison, Like I don't speak this language. I'm 0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:52.680 still learning it. 0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:54.680 But no, it's one of those things that, like you know, 0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:57.639 has intended for law enforcement or what have you, and 0:26:57.640 --> 0:26:59.159 then it made its way to the public sector. I 0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:03.119 think it's technically a legal to use them for nefarious purposes, 0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:06.840 but it's a pretty gray area about that kind of stuff. 0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:09.560 Yeah, that's the right color for it. It's a great area. 0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:12.840 And these So these guys did get caught though, right Matt, 0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:16.320 despite only being sited on camera once like some sort 0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:19.240 of true crime cryptid. They did get popped. 0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:23.120 They did get caught. They're currently charged. So I guess 0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:25.560 this stuff is they allegedly did all these things. They 0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.640 haven't gone through the whole process, right, but they did 0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:31.439 get caught. There was one other thing. This was a 0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:36.000 sophisticated group of folks doing this because they also never 0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.720 brought cell phones with them when they were, you know, 0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.240 casing a joint or going into a place. They were 0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:45.359 very careful with their signals intelligence. Basically they almost wouldn't 0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.399 have gotten caught, probably just because they really were moving 0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:50.960 pretty effectively in the shadows, I think, unless there were 0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.160 some kind of sting or something like that. But hey, 0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.359 this is a weird one. They got caught. That's good. 0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:57.840 I don't know how you really protect yourself against that 0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:01.680 stuff unless I don't know, you just super upgrade your 0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:05.439 security systems and think about all the potential holes and 0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:08.119 then go crazy and paranoid and maybe don't do that. 0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.359 Spend your life unhappily anxious. 0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:14.200 Yeah, let's not do that. That's not a great idea. 0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:16.679 Take it from me somebody who has dealt with that 0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:19.080 and is always and is still dealing with that. 0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:21.000 All right, maybe we should get some coffee. 0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:26.399 Hey, there we go. Uh well, so here's another potential 0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:29.160 reason for that camera to be out there. By way 0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:32.480 of another story that was in The Guardian on May eleventh, 0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:36.800 titled US woman charged with concealing bleach in husband's coffee 0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:40.880 avoids jail. Okay, so here's one to get all our 0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:47.160 paranoias up. There was a US Navy serviceman who was 0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:52.520 stationed outside of the United States. He noticed that the 0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:54.720 coffee he was drinking in the mornings that he would 0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:58.959 brew it home, started tasting a little off, so he 0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:03.080 decided to weirdly enough to check it for pool chemicals 0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:06.040 like chlorine in those kinds of things. Sure, so he 0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:08.400 checked it and turns out, oh, there's bleach in there. 0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:12.920 So he thought, how did bleach get in my coffee? Like, 0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:15.120 checks out the coffee maker. Oh yeah, the water in 0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:18.800 there tastes real funny, cleans it out, puts new water in, 0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:22.360 and then all of a sudden, it tastes weird again. 0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:26.600 So he sets up a hidden camera in his kitchen 0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:31.080 and he watches his spouse put something into the coffee 0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:34.160 maker's water holder, right in the back of the coffee maker, 0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:36.560 and he's like, huh, I wonder what that was. That 0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:39.680 was really weird. So then he waits until they move 0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:41.960 back to the United States. He just by the way, 0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:44.080 he pretends like he drinks his coffee in the morning. 0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:47.000 From this point on, he doesn't actually drink it. He 0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:48.640 knows there's something in it, and his wife puts something 0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.680 in it. He's not sure what's going on, so he 0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:53.040 waits till he get back to the US. Then he 0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:55.880 sets up another camera in this new kitchen and he 0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:59.920 catches her taking bleach, putting it into container and then 0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:03.440 putting that the contents of that container into the coffee maker, 0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:05.600 and she had to go to jail. 0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:09.360 But wait, didn't her husband like argue in her favor 0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:13.080 against long term jail time And she got off with 0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:17.000 some like probation. And then they I think they're getting 0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.400 divorced or they just you know, but they're still living 0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:23.200 together with their kid. Yeah, why do you tell the 0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.600 kid mommy and daddy love each other very much, but 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.440 mommy tried to kill daddy or was. 0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.400 It more of a Munchausen's by proxy situation? 0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:36.520 It's a good question this. Well, I mean, we obviously 0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:40.280 don't know any motive right in terms of abuse or 0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:40.920 anything like that. 0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:43.600 Right, But again, I guess what I'm saying is, I 0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:46.200 guess there are a lot of reasons to want to 0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:49.320 have cameras set up and to conceal those cameras so 0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:51.640 the people you're trying to capture don't know they're there. 0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:53.200 It's just a weird situation. 0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:55.240 Can you imagine the thought process? 0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:58.680 I like that there's a thematic point here too, because 0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:04.880 in general, now one must always assume one is being 0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:08.480 filmed or recorded in some way. It's just the safest 0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:12.360 assumption we're not trying to ruin anybody's day or anything 0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:12.760 like that. 0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:16.080 And I also don't think we're all necessarily proposing that 0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:19.960 we put round the clock hidden cameras in every aspect 0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:22.120 of our life to make sure no one's trying to poisonous. 0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.520 What I was gonna ask, though, Matt, was can you guys, 0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:27.680 are both of you can you imagine the thought process 0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.760 that would lead to this conclusion? And like the slew thing, 0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.760 and like, surely she's not Wait a minute, maybe she is. 0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:35.920 Oh god, she definitely is. 0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:39.440 You immediately test for pool chemistry. 0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:43.719 That's a weird one the context, you know, who like 0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:45.280 have you like we've. 0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:47.920 All had beat me here, doc, and thank you. We've 0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:51.239 all had the drinks at some point, right, you know, 0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:53.960 you get something from a fast food place that soda 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:58.720 founds off. Who on earth? Like what leads you to 0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:01.280 this point in your life where you sip coffee it 0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:04.160 tastes off and you say, time to test for the 0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:05.120 pool chemicals. 0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.880 There's that bit in the pilot episode of twin Peaks 0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:13.000 where the guy goes there was a fish in the percolat. 0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:17.560 That's what it made me think. But guys, I mean 0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:20.479 I don't know if anyone's accidentally tasted a little bleach 0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:23.280 in their life. I haven't, but I know what it 0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:25.720 smells like, and we know that there's a lot of 0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.520 connection between taste and smell. I could imagine that he 0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:32.000 tested for pool chemicals because the coffee tasted a little bleachy. 0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:34.640 Well, yeah, and it was a taste that lingered for 0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:37.440 a long time. And again, like you just want to know, Well, 0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.600 is it just this batch of coffee that's tainted or 0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:42.880 is something wrong with my coffee maker? What the heck's 0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:44.440 going on? Maybe it was in my cup? 0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:48.479 Yeah, Well the gaslightingness of it all too, is the 0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:51.880 whole Like, am I insane? Like I totally cleaned out 0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.440 the coffee maker and now it's back. You know, at 0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:57.440 what point does he decide I better get to the 0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:59.920 bottom of this. This isn't in my head he had. 0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:02.000 You have wrestled with that for at least a minute. 0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:02.640 You know, is he. 0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:05.080 Testing everything for pool chemicals? 0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:08.960 Well, he had test strips, right, and his first thought was, oh, crap, 0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:12.160 something is getting into our water supply because they were 0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:14.720 stationed in Germany, and he was like, maybe there's just 0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:16.920 something I don't know about so we tested the water 0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:20.600 faucet and it was clean. So he's like, that's weird. Well, 0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:23.080 so he tested the water that was sitting there in 0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:25.600 the percolator and it was wrong. 0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:30.120 Hats off to this guy's deductive skills of reasoning and 0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:32.760 then you know, process of elimination. I would say he 0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:35.000 saved his own life. Yep. 0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:37.880 All, don't drink bleach, folks. 0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.360 No, good God, please don't do that. 0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:44.840 Not even diet bleach, about the calories. Just don't drink bleach. 0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:51.160 But what if it tastes like midnight cherry midnight zero. Yeah, 0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:55.200 it's my favorite too. It's right there. All right, we're gonna, 0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.400 I don't know, think about this stuff, y'all. We're gonna 0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.160 take a break and we'll be right back with more 0:33:59.320 --> 0:33:59.960 strange news. 0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:10.640 And we have returned a quick cavalcade of updates. Good 0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:15.480 news for a very specific demographic of people in Indiana. 0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:20.200 An Indiana judge has ruled that tacos and burritos qualify 0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:25.640 as sandwiches. So st yeah, yeah, yeah, the future. Who 0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:29.640 is this a judge in Indiana? A judge by profession, 0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:33.080 He's not like a judge Reinhold or whatever that actor's 0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:37.480 name is in Fort Wayne, Indiana. He ruled as part 0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:42.600 of a commercial development case that burritos and tacos count 0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:43.440 as sandwiches. 0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:48.080 I think this is out of his league, saying, you're lane, judge. 0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:50.720 This is the most conservative opinion I have heard. 0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:53.520 You have nol to do with you. 0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:54.759 Look, we've been in a. 0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:57.600 Matter of legality, it's a matter of common sense, dude. 0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:00.359 We've been asking for like an official ruling on this, 0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:01.960 and this judge gave it to us. 0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:07.040 He wrote, the proposed famous taco restaurant falls within the 0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:10.360 scope of general use approved in the original written commitment. 0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:11.440 Blah blah blah. 0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:17.040 Blah blah, YadA YadA YadA da da Uh. The original 0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:21.640 written commitment does not restrict potential restaurants to only American 0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:25.480 cuisine style sandwiches. So that's a big win for Big Taco. 0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:31.080 The court. Baby, all right, the justices, deway. 0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:34.239 All right, we'll text them. We'll text them because your 0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:37.360 voice should be heard. Also, if you own a yacht, 0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:40.920 bad news. The Orcas are out to get you. Just 0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:45.680 knocked another way out of the straight to Gibraltar, and uh, 0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:46.560 Team Orca. 0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:50.200 To be quite honest, wasn't a really big nice boat too, 0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:51.360 like a yacht. 0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:54.399 Or something that gets the distinction is on the big 0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:57.440 and or nice side. But this was a bigger yacht 0:35:57.640 --> 0:35:58.160 right above. 0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:01.600 Sorry, I know I saw like Pacino and Devil's Advocate, 0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:06.160 but yeah, Tea Morca. So also, we were talking about 0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.640 this a little bit off air, this last one before 0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:11.359 you get to our big piece. Shout out to our 0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:15.800 friend doctor Damian Patrick. Williams was speaking with him a 0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:20.840 little bit earlier. There is a flood of fake science 0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:23.880 hitting academic journals. We talked about this a little bit 0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:29.240 in our previous episode on the academic journal problems, the controversies, 0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:33.520 corruption and conspiracy surrounding that a lot of these journals 0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:39.040 now are closing down because there is an industry using chat, 0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:44.400 GPT and AI to plagiarize papers. They're called paper mills 0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:49.000 and they are so I told myself I wasn't going 0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:51.560 to curse you guys, but Doc, with great thanks, beat 0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:55.600 me again. They are so fucking dumb. They're not good. 0:36:56.520 --> 0:37:00.239 They do this thing where they ran they ran and 0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:05.120 synonyms through so instead of saying something like this study 0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:08.680 is about breast cancer, they say this study is about 0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:09.920 bosom peril. 0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:14.600 It's like the the like kind of bootleg Halloween costumes 0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:17.400 trying to avoid being sued for intellectual property, like for 0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:20.560 Wednesday atoms. It's spooky mid midweek QT. 0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:24.680 Stuff like that is true, It's very true. It's a thing, 0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:27.560 you know, it's a spirit and spooky midweek beauty. Really 0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:30.360 quickly though, I mean just to add, like these types 0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:33.239 of operations have been around as long as there have 0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:37.040 been papers, right, you know, with varying degrees of quality. 0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:40.960 You know, we certainly have heard stories of astute scam 0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:44.480 artists in schools, you know, doing this, going into business 0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:47.160 for themselves, and oftentimes they'll sell the same paper like 0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:48.080 three or four times. 0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:50.760 So this is just sort of an escalation of that, right. 0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:54.959 Yes, just as the Internet itself is an escalation of 0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:58.680 the gregarious nature of human beings. Here you go, another 0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:05.440 couple of examples of these synonym griffs. Fluid dynamics was 0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:06.960 called gooey stream. 0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:10.680 Oh that's yeah, Okay, weird. 0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:19.160 About that one. We're all so Artificial intelligence was also 0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:23.080 referred to as counterfeit consciousness. And I think this is 0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:27.399 a segue to our last story for tonight's program. Did 0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:29.800 you guys ever do online dating? 0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:33.799 Not? Oh? Yeah, my current relationship that I have been 0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:36.640 in for lo these three plus years at this point 0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.560 was the product of online dating. You know, I got 0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:44.680 divorced from someone that I did not meet in online dating, 0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:46.560 and then after that it just kind of became the 0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:48.319 way you do it in a bigger city where you 0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:51.719 maybe don't know as many people. So it made sense 0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:53.640 for me. And I've had good and bad experiences. 0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:56.879 Yeah, you know, Matt and I are maybe a little 0:38:56.880 --> 0:39:00.520 more old school. We meet people the old fast and way, 0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:03.520 you know, getting deported at customs. 0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:07.360 I just get into minor car accidents with people I 0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:10.719 find attractive. 0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:16.520 To meet cute. 0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:22.680 So obviously, no shade on online dating. It works very 0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:26.680 well for a lot of people, and it can be 0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:31.000 a difficult speed bump, right Like it's it's already difficult 0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:36.279 to meet folks, to find the person that you want 0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:41.280 to spend time or your life with. And what gets 0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:45.120 me with this is I was always startled by the 0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:50.600 idea of online dating. And I remember when some of 0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:56.080 my friend groups started dating online using the apps of whatever, 0:39:56.719 --> 0:40:00.880 and they eventually told me it was like a series 0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:05.399 of auditions. They felt like they were always auditioning, and 0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:08.520 they felt like they were auditioning for roles they didn't 0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:12.000 necessarily want, but it was Saturday and they had to 0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:16.719 do something. And this brings us to our final story, 0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:22.279 which includes artificial intelligence again fraudulent term as well as 0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:26.760 online dating. You guys. Recently, one of the high ups, 0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:31.240 one of the grand pubas of the dating enterprise Bumble, 0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:35.680 Whitney wolf Heard, said, we're going to take the awkwardness out. 0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:41.120 We are going to eliminate this small talk, eliminate the 0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:44.440 dead ends, the red herrings and so on. We are 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:50.600 going to create an AI concierge for each user of Bumble, 0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:57.200 and that AI concierge will talk to another AI concierge 0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:00.960 to figure out what the vibe is where the actual 0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:02.480 people ever meet. 0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:06.560 Oh god, amazing, right, they just want to double their 0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:10.800 user base by creative users. 0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:14.200 Yeah, so wait a minute. So so the person it's 0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:17.120 sort of like a stand in, like a fill in, 0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:19.799 Like I don't I guess I don't quite understand the technology. 0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:23.719 She's saying. The AIS interact, right, that's what you're saying. 0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:24.960 Ben, Yeah, that's the idea. 0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:29.680 So, like, if your AI avatar interacts with another person's 0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:33.680 AI avatar that has built a profile based on your 0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:35.759 god knows how much data. 0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:39.120 So like an Ai Ben Bullen and an Ai Fran 0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:44.520 Dresser have a series of amazing conversations, and then later 0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:48.359 they notify the human Fran and the human Bed and 0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:52.279 they're like, hey, you guys both like the nanny, you 0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:53.120 should hang out. 0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:55.839 Yeah, But and then the Ais had been hooking up 0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:58.000 for like a week or two, and they're like, I 0:41:58.040 --> 0:41:59.040 guess we should tell them. 0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:04.000 It's doing all your for play chat for you? Is 0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:07.799 that basically the idea here? I'm sorry, I know that 0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:09.480 that's not necessarily the term, you know what I mean? 0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:13.560 Though the precursor getting to know you micro flair. Isn't 0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:16.920 that part of the fun of it? Though, I guess 0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:19.200 maybe there's some people that this is for. I don't. 0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:21.360 I don't know. You can usually tell within one or 0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:26.160 two quick exchanges whether someone gets you or is worth interacting. 0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:28.640 With you say it on air. 0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:31.160 Mean, yeah, I couldn't tell you. I don't have a 0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:33.160 specific one. It's been a long time at this point 0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:35.280 since I've done it. But I just try to be real. 0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:37.920 I don't remember exactly. I never have like a go 0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:39.759 to one. I'm sure I tried different ones out but 0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:42.640 I'm not a lying kind of guy. But when you do, 0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:44.960 there is something to be said though, of the fun 0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:49.440 and sort of spontaneity of engaging with someone who and 0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:52.040 realizing that you, guys have a vibe and that it's cool. 0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:56.200 Is this meant to you? Just get rid of that entirely. 0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:59.279 I'm a little confused. Who's asking for this seems more 0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:01.600 to benefit they than the individuals guys. 0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:03.120 I'm gonna go out there on a limb and say, 0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:07.240 I think this is for a very specific audience. There's 0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:09.560 a quote from one of the articles you shared back. 0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:10.759 Can I do you mind if I read one of 0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:14.759 these please? It says there is a world where your 0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:17.520 dating concierge could go on a date for you with 0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:21.480 other dating concierge. This is from What's what's the person's name? 0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:27.359 Somebody Wolf Witney, Whitney. Yeah, okay, And she says, and 0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:30.680 then you don't have to talk to six hundred people, 0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:34.520 and it'll scan all of the San Francisco area for 0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:37.320 you and say these are the three people you really 0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:37.919 ought to meet. 0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:39.040 Who. 0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:41.319 Look, I'm putting this out there. I've never used one 0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:44.600 of these dating apps, but people I've heard about some 0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:48.120 friends of mine that have been using them don't get 0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:52.080 six hundred matches or whatever. Every once in a while 0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:53.720 get a match and hope for the best. 0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:56.200 Oh that's me, baby, I'm not gonna lie. It is 0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:59.880 not like raining matches. And it's also dudes in a 0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.359 in a big way too. In general, they don't care 0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:05.120 as many matches as women. But women that I've heard 0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:07.719 it described as like just having hot dogs thrown at 0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:08.120 your face. 0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:12.160 Horror show. You know, it's it's terrible. I like the 0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:15.279 point that we're bringing up here because it goes back 0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:19.120 to the earlier idea in our episode about dead Internet theory, 0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:23.719 the old parable of Fantasia and The Sorcerer's Apprentice. The 0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:29.879 concept is to automate interactions, initial interactions, and like you said, Matt, 0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:35.400 that that quote from Whitney Wolf heard stands out because 0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:42.320 she's estimating that this AI concierge would talk to not four, 0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:46.560 not eleven, not forty two or forty three or whatever, 0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:52.960 but six hundred different AI representatives avatars. And then, as 0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:57.040 you said, Matt, find the three schlubs in San Francisco 0:44:57.560 --> 0:44:58.719 that might vibrate or. 0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:02.160 No, the three tech bros who are gonna you know, 0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:05.879 make seven figures or whatever. I don't know, man, I 0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:08.320 just don't. I don't like any of the whatever. 0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:11.000 I don't Again, though, I think the question of who 0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:13.839 is this for is still is largely answered by it's 0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:16.759 for the data brokers, you know. And then like if 0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:19.239 somebody thinks this is a good idea, they're like, you know, 0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:22.520 an individual, Yeah, take my data. I love this, have 0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:25.400 it all, give me the better chance at finding the 0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:28.520 right match. But I think unless we see some real, 0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:33.000 insanely believable success stories from this, this is all smoke 0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:36.120 and mirrors just to get more juice out of the 0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:40.080 meat bags that are you know, Internet users, the remaining 0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:41.240 ones the real. 0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:44.320 Indeed tempted to agree with you in that regard, because 0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:50.240 you can see the original conversation over on Bloomberg dot 0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:55.920 com wherein at a tech summit, this this executive is 0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:59.440 speaking about this and also to your point about data 0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:04.520 retechn or data aggregation. Uh, she says, wolf Heard says, 0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:10.040 this will also make you a better person. This AI 0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:19.920 concierge will help you learn about yourself. Can give merizzler. 0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:26.200 That's the medium plan, Yeah, skibby, And we also we 0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:30.920 got to say this too, uh, There are now, of course, 0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:37.759 multiple other digital things that are normalizing this sort of 0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:42.799 I guess you would call it cognitive cybernetic approach right 0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:47.080 to consciousness, and this, uh, this is perhaps most apparent 0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:54.120 in things like AI girlfriend apps, which I experimented with 0:46:54.239 --> 0:47:01.320 one because I had to find out uh back in college, right, yeah, college, 0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:02.360 in college, right. 0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:04.760 Experimenting college. 0:47:04.840 --> 0:47:09.880 So I think this is first off, they are aggressively mediocre, 0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:13.720 no offense. I'm sure I can imagine technology will improve 0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:17.239 at some point, but I do wonder whether humans are 0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:21.279 ready for this precipice upon which they stand. You know, 0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:24.800 I'm not I'm not necessarily thinking about us listening tonight 0:47:24.840 --> 0:47:28.880 as adults. I'm thinking about your kids, you know, your 0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:32.160 kids who grow up, like, is it that bad because 0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:37.080 a lot of people have imaginary friends growing up. Is 0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:40.000 this not just an imaginary friend that texts you back 0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:42.280 and ask you for your credit card number. 0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:44.319 I guess we'll all have to try it out. 0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:44.600 Ben. 0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:49.480 I don't think it's a good idea. We're not here 0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:53.759 to yuck anybody's yum. But it does feel like it 0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:58.000 does feel like an extension of what we're talking about previously, 0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:02.080 with the idea of the inner accelerating past the point 0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:07.840 of human intervention. Right. We ended that episode spoiler folks, 0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:10.719 with the idea that Earth could end up being a 0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:14.880 haunted house in some way, just a series of algorithms 0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:19.520 repeating and interacting and iterating with each other long after 0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:24.520 humanity had gone the way of the Dodo. However, in 0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:28.120 this case, what if you found out, let's spin it out. 0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:32.279 What if you found out years after the fact that 0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:36.879 you had an AI representative that you were not necessarily 0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:40.839 aware of, that had become in a close relationship, an 0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:45.319 intimate relationship with an AI representative of a person you 0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:48.200 have never met, and what if it's gone on for years? 0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:52.160 The question would you want to meet that person? Soon? 0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:54.240 As topiing for me to even wrap my head around. Guys. 0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:57.200 It reminds me of that Netflix movie from a long 0:48:57.200 --> 0:48:59.640 time ago called I Am Mother. Did you guys ever 0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:02.080 see Yeah? Yeah, I don't want to. Shouldn't spoil it 0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:04.080 for anybody if you haven't seen it. I enjoyed it 0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:07.520 a lot. It's just the wanting to meet that person, 0:49:07.600 --> 0:49:10.840 like that question, Ben, I think feels like that to me, 0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:13.439 like would you want to know the truth or really 0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:17.400 meet the person? Oh the original maybe. 0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:19.400 Oh, before we get out of here, one really important 0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:23.640 final question. If burrito is a sandwich? Is a rap 0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:28.600 also a sandwich? They're all wraps, sandwiches, NEETs. 0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:30.520 You would say there is no God to stop us. 0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:32.719 Jeez, I'm gonna lose sleep over. 0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:36.719 This also shout out to a past Ben who one 0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:40.040 time left a post it note in a freezer that said, 0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:42.920 puh plus a burrito, fa rito. 0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:45.880 Tell no one, I won't. 0:49:46.600 --> 0:49:50.200 These are gems we drop. We end tonight with a 0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:55.440 philosophical quandary similar to how we began. Right, No, we 0:49:55.560 --> 0:50:00.160 are asking ourselves what the role of humans will be 0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:03.680 in the future. We want to hear your thoughts, be 0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:07.600 you human or bought. We can't wait to interact with you. 0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:10.759 If we don't have a I don't think we have 0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:14.839 an AI powered interaction yet. You'll have to find us 0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:16.480 as ourselves online. 0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:19.840 Yes, but Ben, in Dallas, there's a restaurant that serves 0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:21.840 a fa rito. We gotta go. 0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:24.800 We've got a farrito gap. 0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:27.080 Seems like you'd be really wet. We are you gonna 0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:28.839 put you dip it in the broth? Maybe you dip 0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:30.280 it in the brath? I thought I in. 0:50:31.760 --> 0:50:33.480 No, dude, it just looks awesome. 0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:35.360 It looks that it's a good idea. 0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:37.440 It's an all right. 0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:41.200 Parallel thinking is really all. Parallel thinking is real. So 0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:44.080 why don't you let us know about any crazy inventions 0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:45.880 that you may have come up with out there in 0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:48.040 conspiracy real Islam. You can find it to the handle 0:50:48.080 --> 0:50:51.920 Conspiracy Stuff, where we exist on Facebook, on XFK, Twitter, 0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:55.399 and on YouTube, where we've got video content rolling out 0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:59.880 every single week, on Instagram and TikTok where conspiracy Stuff show. 0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:02.120 We have a phone number. You can call it one 0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:06.960 eight three three STDWYTK. 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