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Speaker 2: Pros and a Cup of Joe.
Speaker 3: But today we are in for Dan and the guys, and.
Speaker 2: We wannat wish everybody a happy Valentine's Day out there.
Speaker 3: Have fun with that.
Speaker 2: Roses should be about a thousand dollars for a dozen,
Speaker 2: so enjoy that, or you could just you know, fake
Speaker 2: an emergency and then buy them tomorrow when they're discounted
Speaker 2: and back to normal prices. But again, to teach their own
Speaker 2: depends on how you float it. Now that being said,
Speaker 2: the New Orleans Saints have made it official. Kellen Moore's
Speaker 2: their brand new head coach. Yep, and the question becomes
Speaker 2: Whiting Cliff Kingsbury want the job. That's a side story,
Speaker 2: but also what is the plan with Derek Carr quarterback?
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore introduced yesterday in New Orleans, spoke about Derek Carr.
Speaker 4: Derek's a tremendous quarterback in this league. I've had so
Speaker 4: much respect for him the journey that he's been on.
Speaker 4: He's a starter in this league. He's a premier player
Speaker 4: in this league. He's had a great journey obviously, going
Speaker 4: from Fresno State to the Raiders and now here. You know,
Speaker 4: really excited to team up with him and go through
Speaker 4: this process. And so just like any player on this roster, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I just got here a few days ago, and I'm
Speaker 4: excited to go through this journey with all of them.
Speaker 2: All right, if not him, who rattler because they've got
Speaker 2: to make a decision soon on his contract. So I'm
Speaker 2: just wondering, like it appears like this is the direction
Speaker 2: we're going to go.
Speaker 3: But if it's not Derek Carr, who's it going to
Speaker 3: be a quarterback for this?
Speaker 5: Do the sound? I mean, do the sound? J Justice,
Speaker 5: that's what you want to do? This for?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: There you go? There you go. I don't know. I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 6: I was just trying to prompt him to do what.
Speaker 5: What was that? I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 6: Get damn, yeah, I don't know. I mean, Spencer Rattler,
Speaker 6: we got to where we were trying to go for
Speaker 6: what it was worth. Owen six is a starter this year,
Speaker 6: four touchdowns, five picks. It's not his fuddy was in
Speaker 6: a bag of crap at the end there, So you know,
Speaker 6: maybe maybe Spencer Rattler is the guy. I doubt it.
Speaker 2: But Derek Carr you could do a lot worse than
Speaker 2: dare Car quarterback. It just feels like, and we've laid
Speaker 2: this out on the show prior, who's going to do
Speaker 2: a lot better than him? Well, they're also in kind
Speaker 2: of salary cap hell to where you know, and Brady
Speaker 2: kind of laid this out. They've been kicking the can
Speaker 2: down the road for so long that now they're just
Speaker 2: sort of having to wear it. But it is a
Speaker 2: division that seems very winnable, and we don't know what
Speaker 2: Michael Pennix is going to be. We're not sure what
Speaker 2: the rest of that division is going to look like
Speaker 2: and whether or not Bryce Young takes a step. Baker
Speaker 2: Mayfield just lost another offensive coordinator, so there's an opportunity there.
Speaker 3: I just don't know.
Speaker 2: If you move on from Derek Carr, what solution you
Speaker 2: have that makes you better.
Speaker 7: I would always be hesitant as a first time head coach,
Speaker 7: especially a young head coach, and taking over a position
Speaker 7: where there's no guarantees anymore.
Speaker 5: You get to see year two.
Speaker 7: And to your point about the expectations in this division
Speaker 7: is that it's it's assumed that it's an easy division
Speaker 7: to potentially win or at least be in the hunt
Speaker 7: for it, right because we don't look at anyone necessarily
Speaker 7: running away with it. And you still have enough pieces
Speaker 7: on this roster to be able to put it together
Speaker 7: and win. So that's the expectation. And if anything goes
Speaker 7: off the rails, or you have a few injuries here
Speaker 7: or there, and then you're looking at a four and
Speaker 7: thirteen season, it's like, all right, maybe things didn't go well,
Speaker 7: maybe we didn't get the right guy. That's the hard
Speaker 7: part about today's NFL is there is no grace period
Speaker 7: at all with these coaches. And so for Kellen Moore,
Speaker 7: I think it would make a lot of sense, you know,
Speaker 7: given that Derek Carr whent healthy has been productive enough.
Speaker 7: And I think if you're looking at you know, the
Speaker 7: base salary, it's gonna be thirty million that comes due
Speaker 7: or guaranteed March fifteenth of this year. It's not even
Speaker 7: close to the price that you know, some of these
Speaker 7: their teams are paying their quarterback, and I think you're
Speaker 7: getting you know, fair value at least as far as
Speaker 7: the statistics are production of Derek Carr. So you know,
Speaker 7: for the first year with Kellen Moore. I mean that
Speaker 7: doesn't necessarily mean they don't draft the quarterback or bringing
Speaker 7: you know, a young guy, but it doesn't necessarily it
Speaker 7: doesn't negate them from doing that. But I think it
Speaker 7: makes some sense to at least get the foundation built
Speaker 7: for what Kellen Moore wants this team to be. I
Speaker 7: do find it interesting though that that Kellen Moore and
Speaker 7: Derek Carr. It's funny he brings up the Fresno State
Speaker 7: days because they played against each other. You know, back
Speaker 7: when Kellen Moore was at Boise and Derek Carr was
Speaker 7: at Fresno State, they didn't play against each other, and
Speaker 7: I think Boise State got the better of that matchup.
Speaker 7: So it is a little interesting. There will be that
Speaker 7: kind of rivalry when they're sitting there in the room
Speaker 7: talking about things. But I think this makes the most
Speaker 7: sense for the Saints to be able to be a
Speaker 7: competitive team.
Speaker 5: In year one under Kellen Moore.
Speaker 7: If they wanted to move on from him, you know,
Speaker 7: you've got about a month to figure that out. And
Speaker 7: as most people may or may not know, a lot
Speaker 7: of this conversations started the combine as far as trades
Speaker 7: that happen, you know, around or over before the you
Speaker 7: know start of the new league year, new deals, or
Speaker 7: even trades that court or in the draft, like they're going
Speaker 7: to start up here at the end of this month
Speaker 7: as we head into the Cobbine. It's not just about
Speaker 7: evaluating the college prospects. It's about having those conversations about
Speaker 7: what some of those trades or the framework of those
Speaker 7: trades may look like.
Speaker 6: They have a lot of free agents on the defensive
Speaker 6: side of the ball. They have some interesting free agents
Speaker 6: on the offensive side of the ball. They're left guard
Speaker 6: and Patrick. But I just I think when you look
Speaker 6: at when you look at what they have going on, Scantling,
Speaker 6: he'll be a free agent landing Young, which he only
Speaker 6: accounted for thirty six percent of the snaps this year.
Speaker 6: This was a team that was tremendously competitive. What two
Speaker 6: seasons ago, literally two seasons ago, this is a competitive
Speaker 6: team and you're trying to figure out what direction they're
Speaker 6: going in and you add you know, Derek Carr to
Speaker 6: the mix, and it seemingly was like, is this that
Speaker 6: missing piece to this Saints team taking the next step, especially,
Speaker 6: as we've mentioned, in a vulnerable and wide open NFC South.
Speaker 6: So if I'm Kellen Moore, if I'm Kellen Moore, I
Speaker 6: got to take two things into consideration. One, what Q highlighted,
Speaker 6: you don't really get a grace period anymore. I just
Speaker 6: I really don't understand why this is where the NFL
Speaker 6: has gone, where they do not give coaches enough time
Speaker 6: to build a team. Because if you were to say,
Speaker 6: I want you to build me a home like this home,
Speaker 6: here's the specification. Here is all of the things I
Speaker 6: want customized. Here's what needs to take place with the property,
Speaker 6: the foundation, all of the different Uh you know, what
Speaker 6: is it called the licensing? What is it that you
Speaker 6: got to get to be able to do the stuff?
Speaker 6: And they live the easements and all this old other
Speaker 6: stuff permits.
Speaker 5: There we go. That's what I'm looking for.
Speaker 6: You're not going to build a dope ass crib in
Speaker 6: one year.
Speaker 5: You're not.
Speaker 6: I don't care how good that builder is. You're not
Speaker 6: unless you I mean, unless you Shopper could do it.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't think you're gonna be able.
Speaker 6: To the point I'm making is is that you get
Speaker 6: these people and they come in and they start building
Speaker 6: the framework or they start laying the foundation, and then
Speaker 6: they're let go. They don't get a chance opportunity to
Speaker 6: finish what it is that they've started, and you never
Speaker 6: know what that product is going to look like. We
Speaker 6: keep using Dan Campbell as an example of giving a
Speaker 6: person time to fail, put the foundational pieces in play,
Speaker 6: start to build on that foundation, and see what.
Speaker 5: You get out of it.
Speaker 6: That's the first thing I got take into consideration if
Speaker 6: I take this job, is how much time do I
Speaker 6: really have, because if I really have time, then I'm
Speaker 6: cutting my losses. I want to try to clear up
Speaker 6: as much space as I can cap space. I want
Speaker 6: to clear up as much space as I possibly can
Speaker 6: while trying to keep and maintain the core guys, keep
Speaker 6: them happy, the guys that are already signed, keep these
Speaker 6: core guys invested, and very very captive to what it
Speaker 6: is that we're trying to do, in what direction we're
Speaker 6: trying to go in. That's really all I'm trying to
Speaker 6: figure out is how much time do I really truly
Speaker 6: have And can I get the guys that are already
Speaker 6: on this team? Can I get them all on the
Speaker 6: same page. Because you're going to have a bumpy road
Speaker 6: when you have new coaches. This is because your team's stunk.
Speaker 6: It's not very often you're going to get a new
Speaker 6: coach on a team that is successful and is playing
Speaker 6: at a high level, and oh, my goodness, is just
Speaker 6: passing it over to this person to take it over.
Speaker 6: It doesn't happen that way. You're going to have growing
Speaker 6: pains being the new coach of a team in the
Speaker 6: National Football League because you're only changing coaches if that
Speaker 6: coach has been unsuccessful in winning. So to me, Kellen
Speaker 6: Moore is in a very compromised position here because what decisions.
Speaker 5: Do you make.
Speaker 6: Do you try to bring him back? Do you try
Speaker 6: to bring car back or do you move on Car?
Speaker 6: Says to me, you're still trying to win now some
Speaker 6: of these guys. If you bring them back, that still
Speaker 6: says you're trying to win now, and you want to
Speaker 6: try to win now, but you also want to be
Speaker 6: trying to build, to be able to create sustainable winning,
Speaker 6: sustainable success, build a culture that doesn't happen overnight. And
Speaker 6: I just like this microwave approach to how coaches are
Speaker 6: being being judged and measured. It isn't really in most
Speaker 6: cases conducive to a coach coming in and being able
Speaker 6: to be successful in these situations.
Speaker 2: It was the last job that was filled, the last
Speaker 2: vacancy filled in the NFL by a pretty wide margin.
Speaker 2: And if you believe the reports, Cliff Kingsbury was the
Speaker 2: guy they wanted and he decided to go back and
Speaker 2: remain a coordinator in Washington. So you already know, if
Speaker 2: you're Kellen Moore going into it, you weren't even option A.
Speaker 2: You may not have even been optioned Z like this,
Speaker 2: there's no letters after z bro but but so had
Speaker 2: to be at least Z. The point is I.
Speaker 5: Think he goes in the double letters after that run. Yeah,
Speaker 5: the want to go like the AAAB and CC. You
Speaker 5: don't wanta I mean it might need to be.
Speaker 3: I was waiting for somebody to go there. But what
Speaker 3: would leave me? But so, like if you're Kellen, if you're.
Speaker 2: If you're Kellen Moore, like it would be hoove you
Speaker 2: to want to maintain some continuity there and to have
Speaker 2: some sort of experience at quarterback. So to move on
Speaker 2: from Derek Carr, I would be putting him in an
Speaker 2: awful spot, like they in.
Speaker 3: A worse situation that he's already in.
Speaker 2: I just can't imagine that they, you know, pass on
Speaker 2: Derek Carr, who you know, w what all of a
Speaker 2: sudden become an intriguing possibility for somebody else in the league.
Speaker 2: I just I don't see him moving on from him.
Speaker 2: I don't know how that improves things. It's like the
Speaker 2: Rams with Stafford, Like there's talks that maybe the Rams
Speaker 2: would move on from Matt Stafford and go then what
Speaker 2: like that? Then then what do you do at quarterback.
Speaker 2: Do you make a push for Sam Darnold? Do you
Speaker 2: turn the keys over to Jimmy Garoppolo Like I just
Speaker 2: to me, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for
Speaker 2: the Saints, but you know, it remains to be seen.
Speaker 2: And then a wrap up our coverage of the New
Speaker 2: Orleans Saints for the twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 3: So there's that. It is two pros and a cup
Speaker 3: of Joe.
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Speaker 2: going to tell you about a rumor that's out there,
Speaker 2: a rumor involving two teams in the NFL and a
Speaker 2: potential blockbuster trade.
Speaker 3: We'll get into that for you here on FSR.
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Speaker 2: You know this is Braden, I do not come on.
Speaker 2: What does my son say to you? Go Cubs go?
Speaker 2: What depeche modo to their music?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Come on, I would never know that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, my son says to me what's that
Speaker 6: we are stick city?
Speaker 3: He does.
Speaker 6: I can't believe I've been like back and forth with
Speaker 6: Penn State fads about my kid wearing number eleven. Bad.
Speaker 6: It's the wildest ass that I think I've I've dealt
Speaker 6: with all week. What do you mean exactly? So, so
Speaker 6: the the roster came out and it showed man has eleven,
Speaker 6: he's wearing eleven, and so now it's official that you
Speaker 6: know he's wearing eleven, and people were freaking melting down,
Speaker 6: crashing out, like how does he get eleven? Rojas or
Speaker 6: or such and such should have got There's so many
Speaker 6: guys that should have got eleven. He's he has to
Speaker 6: earn it. He hasn't earned it. Like that was like
Speaker 6: the overwhelming, not overwhelming, overwhelming.
Speaker 5: I did, Okay, I did? I did.
Speaker 6: It's crazy, bro like, like do you understand the history
Speaker 6: of the number, Like do you understand what went into
Speaker 6: why the number even became a thing?
Speaker 5: Like I was.
Speaker 6: Literally directly talking to these kids, like directly influencing and
Speaker 6: mentoring these kids that ended up going to Penn State,
Speaker 6: Like since they were in like eighth grade, I'm known
Speaker 6: the ab Duels and the Micah's and and the Navarro's
Speaker 6: and all that stuff.
Speaker 5: I've known them since they were kids and those people
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 6: That was something that like was a thing between me
Speaker 6: and them that that we kind of like we went with.
Speaker 6: And so yesterday it's like everybody sitting there talking about it, like,
Speaker 6: how does he even get to wear the number?
Speaker 5: Like, what do you mean? How does he?
Speaker 6: How does LeVar Arrington the second? Which get it right,
Speaker 6: because there's too many of y'all calling him junior. He's
Speaker 6: the second, he's the second. How does how does that
Speaker 6: even become a conversation bro, that my kid is wearing
Speaker 6: the same number that is day at war.
Speaker 5: They're like, well, how did he earn it?
Speaker 6: Well, do you know what he had to do to
Speaker 6: get recruited and get offered by all the schools that
Speaker 6: he got recruited and offered by.
Speaker 5: He earned it. Believe you me.
Speaker 6: He aren't whatever number would be available for him to
Speaker 6: wear like case clothes.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's interesting.
Speaker 7: This is just one of those moments where and I
Speaker 7: tell you all the time.
Speaker 5: Not to him, I know. And here's why.
Speaker 7: Because the people who are making comments or statements like that,
Speaker 7: they don't know the history of it. They're not willing
Speaker 7: to research and understand the history of it or the
Speaker 7: fact that you know you started this, so they wouldn't
Speaker 7: have any perspective that's worthwhile. Truth so true, That's why
Speaker 7: I'm like this. It's just to me, and again because
Speaker 7: of recent events in my life, like I don't have
Speaker 7: time for anything that doesn't help more efficiency in my life.
Speaker 5: Like I just I don't have time for it. I
Speaker 5: feel bad.
Speaker 7: It's not saying that I don't care about our listeners,
Speaker 7: our fans, et cetera. But there's also a few, select,
Speaker 7: few number of people out there that if they've got
Speaker 7: a comment about our show, about a take or whatever
Speaker 7: I've said, there's always select few of people I really
Speaker 7: care to hear hear of their opinion because I know
Speaker 7: those people, how hard they work, how what their perspective is,
Speaker 7: because I've either.
Speaker 5: Watched them play coach, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 7: You know whatever it is true and understand what they've
Speaker 7: put behind it, so I trust in what they're saying
Speaker 7: is sound, solid advice or criticism whatever. But another ninety
Speaker 7: eight ninety nine percent, sorry, Like it's just there's just
Speaker 7: not as much substance to what you're gonna say that's
Speaker 7: gonna influence you know, me or anything I think or feel.
Speaker 6: Or whatever else. Yeah again, yeah, you gotta stop reading
Speaker 6: into that. You're right, man, But it did bother me.
Speaker 6: It's like it did bother me. And because I've always
Speaker 6: been one I engage our fans, good for bed, good
Speaker 6: or bad, I've always engaged.
Speaker 2: I've always liked myself. Mclin feels it's a bummer his numbers.
Speaker 2: Why do I keep thinking he was fourteen? Was that Hackenberg?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Hack Hackenberg was fourteen, wasn't it hack was fourteen? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, McGloin was eleven. We're certain.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what up, Matt? What's up? Matt?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I wonder is he catching strays on this and people
Speaker 5: being like, hey man, why is he you know what?
Speaker 5: Why is he able to second taking your number? I
Speaker 5: couldn't guarantee you somebody's hit.
Speaker 6: Matt mcglowing up and was like, how does LeVar Arrington
Speaker 6: get to wear eleven?
Speaker 5: By the way State in his freshman year.
Speaker 3: I told leave our producer when we were in State college.
Speaker 3: I said, we were walking by the gift shops and
Speaker 3: we got a linebacker.
Speaker 5: You shirre it.
Speaker 2: I was like, if they had a mcgloy eleven, I
Speaker 2: swear to God, I was gonna buy it. I swear
Speaker 2: to God and wear at the next day of the show.
Speaker 5: Why would you have.
Speaker 7: Your name on the back? Did you LeVar when you played? No,
Speaker 7: I was gonna say it. Did mcgloy have a name
Speaker 7: on his back when played?
Speaker 2: I was gonna pay No, No, No, I would have
Speaker 2: done it up.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 6: But in the nil they are putting the guys' names
Speaker 6: on the back of the shirts they're selling in the play.
Speaker 3: But it sort of cut today again.
Speaker 7: Interesting, I don't know, it's not as much as it
Speaker 7: should be. Tru I looked into that, I was like,
Speaker 7: oh here we got a lot. No, look, it's the
Speaker 7: unfortunate reality. By the way, It'd be one thing if
Speaker 7: there was like a collective Bardy agreement, which I guess
Speaker 7: that's kind of just the agreement that was it fanatics
Speaker 7: whoever does it like has with the rest of the
Speaker 7: teams and all that. But the player is, as much
Speaker 7: as I'm happy how they're empowered at this point, there's
Speaker 7: still some areas where they're not necessarily getting a fair
Speaker 7: cut of it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't disagree with that. I know what it
Speaker 6: looks like too bat the way.
Speaker 5: It's not much. It's not much? Is it ten percent less?
Speaker 5: I thought the number I saw was a little less
Speaker 5: than seven.
Speaker 2: You could less than ten percent of one hundred dollars?
Speaker 6: Jery?
Speaker 5: You like seven percent? Really?
Speaker 3: I bought your jersey?
Speaker 5: Sweet?
Speaker 2: Why you just give me seven bucks nex time? Oh
Speaker 2: my god, man, you can do a couple of Nielsen surveys.
Speaker 2: You make up that money, trust me, I've done it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like three bucks in the mail from Nielsen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's dope. Yeah, not really.
Speaker 7: It was cool to get like cash. Only a little
Speaker 7: kid again. I was like, oh, Grandpa sent me some money.
Speaker 5: It was great and it happens.
Speaker 6: Anyways, Thank you for allowing me the vent I was
Speaker 6: just talking about. I was talking to the twins on
Speaker 6: on FaceTime during the break. You know, we're just talking.
Speaker 6: Is Valentine's Day? You know, Happy Valentine's Day to everybody?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 7: Oh you mean that the hallmark holiday that it is.
Speaker 7: We're supposed to not treat our loved ones like this
Speaker 7: every day?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Just today yeah today, thanks, thanks appreciate that.
Speaker 7: What a bunch of crap, just so you can charge
Speaker 7: more for roses and charge more for stuff that literally,
Speaker 7: I mean, Jonas, you know this, give your advice out
Speaker 7: there to people who maybe you're like I'd rather save
Speaker 7: a few bucks from theses. How exactly should they handle
Speaker 7: this Valentine's Day? And should they punt and maybe elect
Speaker 7: to like Saturday Sunday getting those flowers for their significant other.
Speaker 2: Fake an emergency like you're you're with them, like it's
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day for everyone's sick. Find a buddy who's real
Speaker 2: convincing AI could probably help out nowadays, and just be like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I got to run, I got.
Speaker 3: Something came up. Let me let me call you later.
Speaker 3: Leaving a panic.
Speaker 2: They don't want to throw it and make a spectacle
Speaker 2: of it because they don't want to feel like they're
Speaker 2: being selfish or they're not supporting you and whatever this
Speaker 2: current emergency is. And so all of a sudden you
Speaker 2: just kind of always in a hurry, like hey, you
Speaker 2: just kind of push it off, push it off, push
Speaker 2: it off, and then the next day be like, oo,
Speaker 2: false alarm. Here, I bought these a couple of days ago.
Speaker 2: Hope they're still good. And all of a sudden, those
Speaker 2: fifty dollars roses are nine to ninety nine at a supermarket.
Speaker 2: You saved forty bucks. You look like a great person.
Speaker 2: You overcame adversity and still found time to celebrate the
Speaker 2: holiday following a near tragedy.
Speaker 3: In the fan works every time time.
Speaker 2: Or just find somebody with the language barrier like me,
Speaker 2: and the next thing, you know, you just you can
Speaker 2: get away with whatever you want.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: So there's that.
Speaker 5: Whoa see whoa. I just knew something was hot in there.
Speaker 5: That's all I did. I didn't know the rest of it.
Speaker 6: But that's what Jonas like said, and Jonahs said, yes,
Speaker 6: his his ventage, Yes, satiel okay, Cereal, yeah, Cereal.
Speaker 3: Or you could do the pebbles, you could do the
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Speaker 2: speaking out on a decision they made in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Coming up in a little over fifteen minutes from now,
Speaker 2: we'll have that for you here.
Speaker 5: Oh great, jeez.
Speaker 3: Would you guys like the the latest rumor that made
Speaker 3: the round yesterday?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I think I know what you're going on. Let's
Speaker 5: get it all right.
Speaker 2: So, according to Ryan Burr, who works for the Big
Speaker 2: Ten Network, he said and tweeted out the following quote quote,
Speaker 2: the Steelers have made inquiries to the Jaguars about a
Speaker 2: trade for quarterback Trevor Lawrence. This directly from the horse's
Speaker 2: mouth in the Jags organization.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: Now, the Jacksonville Jaguars saw this report and responded. According
Speaker 2: to Michael de Rocco, who covers the Jags for ESPN
Speaker 2: dot Com, says, a Jag source called it ridiculous, and
Speaker 2: there's no chance that Trevor Lawrence is going to be dealt.
Speaker 6: Which means it's a possibility, which means there's a tremendous
Speaker 6: possibility here.
Speaker 3: I think there's a better chance that shot Con gets
Speaker 3: traded than Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 5: I'll put it this way.
Speaker 7: Typically, when something like this services, usually we go to
Speaker 7: the odds makers. Right, there is not an odds maker
Speaker 7: that I could search and find that would have any
Speaker 7: odds for this up because it does come off and
Speaker 7: seem a bit ridiculous. Now, the other reason is I
Speaker 7: think Liam Cohen he probably took this job full well
Speaker 7: knowing that he was gonna have Trevor Lawrence as his quarterback.
Speaker 7: And I think Shad Khan hired Liam Cohen another young
Speaker 7: offensive mind, and I should say another offensive mind, because
Speaker 7: they're trying to maximize Trevor Lawrence. That's what this is
Speaker 7: all about. And so Trevor Lawrence, who you know, just
Speaker 7: reup to a five year, two hundred and seventy five
Speaker 7: million dollar deal, has got a relatively low cap hit
Speaker 7: for their foreseeable future really until twenty twenty eight is
Speaker 7: when the number starts to pan up.
Speaker 5: There a little bit.
Speaker 7: But he's got a ton of years left on this deal,
Speaker 7: So you're in a great cap situation with I know
Speaker 7: the guy. I know he still has a lot to prove.
Speaker 7: But I think there's a lot of reasons why Liam
Speaker 7: Cohen's there. And I think if you were to trade
Speaker 7: away Trevor Lawrence, I'm not sure really what the plan is, Like,
Speaker 7: why you treading way asset that's better than anything you're
Speaker 7: gonna find on the free agent market, is better than
Speaker 7: anything you're gonna get in this year's draft, and for
Speaker 7: a reasonable pro it just it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Speaker 7: So I think this report, you know, coming out that hey,
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh's interested.
Speaker 5: Of course they're interested.
Speaker 7: If you're a team that's in need of a quarterback,
Speaker 7: you should you should call up everyone possible. I mean,
Speaker 7: how many times do we hear about John Lynch back
Speaker 7: when he was with the San Francisco forty nine ers,
Speaker 7: or I should say, when when Brady was playing with
Speaker 7: the Patriots and Lynch is that the forty nine ers
Speaker 7: would call a Belichick and ask if you know you'd
Speaker 7: potentially be willing to trade Brady? Okay, No, Okay, good.
Speaker 7: I just want to hear you say it, like I
Speaker 7: think every organization should turn over every stone possible to
Speaker 7: go try to find out if you can upgrade at
Speaker 7: a certain position. That's how you win super Bowls, that's
Speaker 7: how you improve your roster. And so I'm not surprised
Speaker 7: this for reports service. I'm not surprised it's Pittsburgh because
Speaker 7: they're trying to figure out a way of upgrading the
Speaker 7: quarterback position. But the truth is Jacksonville should not give
Speaker 7: this any thought. Whatsoever, at least for the next couple
Speaker 7: of years.
Speaker 6: Dool, I'm gonna I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna new
Speaker 6: coach there. I'm gonna give that one.
Speaker 5: A very very serious and very hard look, because I
Speaker 5: do not know if I would be better off.
Speaker 6: Keeping Trevor Lawrence in the long run or dealing him
Speaker 6: to get more draft picks and possibly some players that
Speaker 6: could immediately help me be a better team. I'd rather
Speaker 6: where I'm at right now. Looking at what I've seen
Speaker 6: from Trevor Lawrence, especially this season, I might be more
Speaker 6: willing to get a system quarterback, a system quarterback that
Speaker 6: gets me through what we say, a bridge quarterback, a
Speaker 6: bridge quarterback, and see where that gets me, like what
Speaker 6: happened with Sam Darnold this year. Get me a bridge
Speaker 6: quarterback and let Pittsburgh have the buyer's remorse.
Speaker 5: Let them have it.
Speaker 6: I don'pe think it's worth like the value of what
Speaker 6: you're gonna get from Trevor Lawrence. I don't believe that
Speaker 6: Trevor Lawrence will go to Pittsburgh and change what Pittsburgh
Speaker 6: is as a team.
Speaker 5: I don't so I don't think he's.
Speaker 6: Gonna change what the Jacksonville Jaguars are as a team, which,
Speaker 6: by the way, he's a part of it. He's a
Speaker 6: part of the reason why the coach got fired. He's
Speaker 6: not not a part of it. He's not he's culpability
Speaker 6: in all of this.
Speaker 5: He's a part. He might be the main reason why
Speaker 5: the coach got fired. Well, he didn't miss seven games
Speaker 5: last season.
Speaker 6: Okay, availability is the best ability. Some people say, Listen,
Speaker 6: I'm not going to his career.
Speaker 5: He's missing.
Speaker 6: I'm not going judging based off of him getting injured.
Speaker 6: I will say he has not shown me he is
Speaker 6: a franchise quarterback in the league. Yet he's given me
Speaker 6: glimpses that he could possibly be. He has not shown
Speaker 6: me that he is a franchise guy. And he's on
Speaker 6: his second contract. He did make a Pro Bowl, so
Speaker 6: there's that.
Speaker 3: It's it's interesting.
Speaker 6: Take Brady Quinn. Now, now let me ask you the
Speaker 6: I'd take Trevor Quinn. I'd take Brady Quinn. I saw
Speaker 6: him throw the camp in high school and I came
Speaker 6: away think it damn long way from there.
Speaker 5: That's what that looks like. I was like, man, I've
Speaker 5: never seen a kid through this.
Speaker 6: Quinn throw a dime on radio rode for the last
Speaker 6: three years.
Speaker 1: Three years.
Speaker 5: The only reason why Trevor Lawrence says the nickname quarterback Jesus.
Speaker 5: Watch him throw that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that that was from in divine though. He ain't
Speaker 6: been quarterback Jesus in in the league. He's been, He's been.
Speaker 6: He was Jesus in a major He played good his
Speaker 6: Pro Bowl year. He was Jesus in a manger, little
Speaker 6: baby Jesus. He ain't grown up in the Jesus that
Speaker 6: like was walking on water and all that's I ain't
Speaker 6: there yet, all right, So let me ask you this,
Speaker 6: what do you think is more likely to happen. Trevor
Speaker 6: Lawrence gets traded or Trevor Lawrence gets abducted by aliens.
Speaker 5: He gets abducted by aliens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is not happening at all on any level.
Speaker 2: It's not realistic. I mean, it costs a lot to
Speaker 2: tear down the name of a stadium, like you get
Speaker 2: a higher.
Speaker 5: That's a great point.
Speaker 3: That stuff's not cheap. And so if you think they're
Speaker 3: going to but the landscape.
Speaker 6: Of the NFL is rapidly, rapidly changing, man, Like you see,
Speaker 6: some of these trades would have just never happened before,
Speaker 6: but they happen.
Speaker 5: You know, I wouldn't.
Speaker 6: I'll say this, While I think alien abduction is more
Speaker 6: likely to happen, there's always the chance that we get
Speaker 6: our minds blown by saying, wow, can't.
Speaker 5: Believe that this trade happened.
Speaker 6: Like that's more feasible to think in today's NFL that
Speaker 6: something like this could happen, especially if it found its
Speaker 6: way to the light of day to actually be discussed
Speaker 6: or broken as news, even though it ain't with the
Speaker 6: odds makers, even though it's not something that has maybe
Speaker 6: caught all the way traction, there's still the idea that
Speaker 6: in today's NFL, no one is safe except Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5: That's it. That's fair.
Speaker 7: Maybe there's no disagreement with that. I mean, And to
Speaker 7: say like it's I mean, honestly, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I'm not sure where we are in the whole aliens
Speaker 7: realm of things lead. You want to weigh in on
Speaker 7: whether or not you believe aliens are here, just to
Speaker 7: give us some insight. Don't any research you've done, Lee,
Speaker 7: don't even.
Speaker 5: Get me started.
Speaker 8: Aliens definitely exist. Whether or not they're here is up
Speaker 8: for debate. I think they are. Whether or not they're
Speaker 8: the intelligent type, Yes they are. They're in the sea obviously.
Speaker 7: Okay, so you see, if you oppose that question of
Speaker 7: what happens for water, Trevor Lawrence gets abducted by an
Speaker 7: alien or he gets traded, which would you say, then.
Speaker 5: Oh trade.
Speaker 8: They're not gonna Trevor Lawrence. They're not gonna abduct any
Speaker 8: of us, but Trevor Lawrence could get traded. That's definitely
Speaker 8: a point.
Speaker 6: So all these people that come up missing, you don't
Speaker 6: think that there's something to alien abduction. And when it's
Speaker 6: an unsolved mystery.
Speaker 3: You never heard of Skinwalker Ranch.
Speaker 5: I mean, what the hell.
Speaker 2: Come tell me, I mean Skinwalker Ranch. They just find
Speaker 2: like cows mutilated out of nowhere.
Speaker 3: They've seen orbs fly in and just.
Speaker 2: Orbs fly in just appear like it's it's the whole
Speaker 2: the whole thing is bananas. Like there's an Amazon Prime
Speaker 2: documentary called Moment of Contact. It's about the the alien
Speaker 2: that landed in Brazil or the creature that landed in Brazil. Alright, testimony,
Speaker 2: I'm just telling testimony from people that were there that
Speaker 2: tell that that explain what happened. A guy who carried
Speaker 2: the body of the creature ended up dying four days
Speaker 2: later because of a rash they couldn't pick up.
Speaker 3: They had no idea what they did. I'm just telling
Speaker 3: you this is why.
Speaker 5: How heavy was that body? Can I ask this question?
Speaker 5: They didn't have hammers?
Speaker 7: Can we ask for Trevor Lawrence to cut his hair? Like,
Speaker 7: maybe that's the missing link to all this. Maybe if
Speaker 7: he cuts his hair, we'll see a new, improved Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 5: Like, maybe that's the thing holding him back right now.
Speaker 5: It's like the opposite of Samson. I just listen.
Speaker 6: I think that's you know, oh my god, maybe it's
Speaker 6: holding back. It's possible. That's a tall ask Why why
Speaker 6: can't he be normal? Matter of fact, why not get
Speaker 6: a fade?
Speaker 5: Go to the hood? Go? Could you could braid him?
Speaker 5: He couldn't get him break he could get him braided. Hey, Trevor,
Speaker 5: go to Duval.
Speaker 6: He gets you a fade, a ball fade and come
Speaker 6: back and ball out and everybody in Duva will freaking
Speaker 6: love you brother.
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 3: If that's the case, will you claim him bar.
Speaker 6: If he goes it, gets a ball fay and balls out. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: damn that be in there witning my ge h.
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Speaker 2: So the Houston Texans made a move this offseason. They
Speaker 2: fired their offensive coordinator Bobby Slowick. Nick Cayley is the
Speaker 2: brand new OC four Houston. Demiko Rans the head coach
Speaker 2: there of the Texans. He spoke not only about the
Speaker 2: firing of Bobby Slowock, but also the hiring of Kayley.
Speaker 9: It was very hard to let Bobby go. Bobby's a
Speaker 9: really close friend. As you all know, Bobby is a
Speaker 9: great friend of mine. You know, when I got into coaching,
Speaker 9: Bobby was the guy who helped me figure it all out.
Speaker 9: And we were QC's together there in San France, so
Speaker 9: really long relationship there with him.
Speaker 5: Nothing but love and ADMI race for Bobby and what
Speaker 5: he's done.
Speaker 9: I know he'll be a really good coach in this
Speaker 9: league as he continues to move press forward in his
Speaker 9: career and I wish him nothing but the best.
Speaker 5: And going through my process, it was.
Speaker 9: Very clear that Nick was the right guy for our team,
Speaker 9: just with his energy right, his leadership ability, I think
Speaker 9: with him being able to understand the run game past game,
Speaker 9: with him being in multiple schemes, multiple schemes that were successful,
Speaker 9: understanding how to tailor the offense to the players that
Speaker 9: we have. That led me to Nick, and I feel
Speaker 9: really strong in my conviction that he can lead us
Speaker 9: and get us over the Hume.
Speaker 2: So there's Demiko, Ryan's talking about his good friend Bobby Slowick,
Speaker 2: who's and the brand new offensive coordinator who has never
Speaker 2: been an offensive coordinator before or called plays Nick Caylee
Speaker 2: there for the Houston Taxon.
Speaker 7: It's always a risk you take, right, And here's the
Speaker 7: one thing he's got in his favor is he's coming
Speaker 7: from the Rams last year is the tight ends coach
Speaker 7: and pass game coordinator. So oftentimes when you look at
Speaker 7: guys who are trying to take that next step in
Speaker 7: their career and come from the background of like, all right,
Speaker 7: a quarterback coach or tight ends coach, they're intricately involved
Speaker 7: in all three phases of what that really entails, right,
Speaker 7: because they've got a player who's asked to do one
Speaker 7: of three things. If you're a quarterback, obviously you've got
Speaker 7: to know everything. And so that's obviously a coach that's
Speaker 7: gonna be really well prepared for that next step as
Speaker 7: a coordinator because he's got to make sure the guy's
Speaker 7: coaching knows that. As a tight ends it's similar, you've
Speaker 7: got to have run block scheme, pass protection scheme, past
Speaker 7: route trees, everything else that's understood that's along with that.
Speaker 7: So that that position, because of what they're asked to
Speaker 7: do to me, is one of that kind of next
Speaker 7: in line that makes a lot of sense. And this
Speaker 7: is a coach who impressed Sean mcvayanough not only to
Speaker 7: be his past game coordinator, but tight ends coach.
Speaker 5: And then before that was Bill Belichick. So as you
Speaker 5: kind of talk about how these.
Speaker 7: Guys kind of come up the ring, like you don't
Speaker 7: just walk in the New England Patriots, you know, offices
Speaker 7: and get a job. You know, there's plenty of applicants,
Speaker 7: plenty of people when Bill Belichick was there, same thing
Speaker 7: with Sean McVay. He's kind of that next hot name
Speaker 7: and head coach that if you want to get into coaching,
Speaker 7: it'll be like one of those guys on a fast
Speaker 7: track to an OC you go coach with Sean McVay.
Speaker 7: So the truth is, you know, it may come as
Speaker 7: a surprise because no one knows this name, but he's
Speaker 7: got the back of Bill Belichick as well.
Speaker 6: As Sean McVay. Listen, whatever is going to turn out
Speaker 6: to be. I think this is a very, very pivotal
Speaker 6: moment in Demico Ryan's young coaching career. I think he
Speaker 6: can continue to either build the momentum that he's been
Speaker 6: able to create in such a short period of time
Speaker 6: and taking over the team that he once played for
Speaker 6: and now is the coach of, or it could start
Speaker 6: to hit that kind of you know how you run
Speaker 6: the risk of when you have quick success, things could
Speaker 6: get like maybe a little stale, you know, like they
Speaker 6: had a tremendous year by records, you know, by accounts
Speaker 6: of the record and what they were able to accomplish.
Speaker 6: It just didn't feel like that first year when he
Speaker 6: took over, it just didn't have that type of impact.
Speaker 6: And maybe it was because we settled in and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 6: here's what we expect from CJ. Stroud, here's what we
Speaker 6: expect from this Texans team, and it just didn't hit
Speaker 6: the same exact way this past season. I think him
Speaker 6: making the decisions and the choices that he's making ultimately
Speaker 6: are going to either lead to the results that get
Speaker 6: people excited again and it has that like kind of
Speaker 6: in moments, splash moments, and I think getting more out
Speaker 6: of CJ. Stroud next year is very key, very pivotal
Speaker 6: going into year three, right, year three?
Speaker 5: Right? Yeah, Year three. I think it's a big more
Speaker 5: for CJ.
Speaker 6: Stroud just as much as it is for Damiko Ryans
Speaker 6: and going into next year and having a high level
Speaker 6: of success moving moving through that that season.
Speaker 2: I wonder if Damiko Ryans is a little bit skittish
Speaker 2: in Houston based on what he's seen happen two prior
Speaker 2: head coaches who were one and done, like Lovey Smith,
Speaker 2: like David Coley, and I wonder if he not that.
Speaker 2: I don't know if panic is the right word, but
Speaker 2: I wonder if in a regular situation or another situation,
Speaker 2: he would have given his quote unquote good friend Bobby
Speaker 2: Slowek another year, because how do you go from interviewing
Speaker 2: for five to six vacant head coaching jobs to fire
Speaker 2: at his offensive coordinator, Like, I can't imagine Dan Quinn
Speaker 2: does that to Cliff Kingsbury next year and I won
Speaker 2: their division. Well, I just I just wonder if he
Speaker 2: felt like it was a quick trigger because he looked
Speaker 2: and said, I can't take any chances.
Speaker 5: I don't think.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's based off of paranoia. I think
Speaker 6: he has the relationship. He has kind of a quick decision.
Speaker 6: It is a quick decision, and it was made with success.
Speaker 6: They they're still having success, you know.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 6: There could be another element involved as to why he
Speaker 6: made that decision.
Speaker 5: But I heard you, ooh, so go. We only got
Speaker 5: a couple of seconds, so go No. I was just
Speaker 5: gonna say.
Speaker 7: I think oftentimes these coaches, when they are close to
Speaker 7: another coach, they'll they'll let them go because they feel like,
Speaker 7: you know, they have to make a change or something's
Speaker 7: going to happen in the future, and they and they
Speaker 7: need to do it because they're trying to help them
Speaker 7: get another job elsewhere. In fact, if they go into
Speaker 7: another year where things don't work out and they all
Speaker 7: get fired, So to Jonas's point, maybe he feels the
Speaker 7: pressure of if things don't work out next year, maybe
Speaker 7: he ends up.
Speaker 5: To be on the chopping block.
Speaker 6: Anyway, that's crazy. A ten and seven year and you're
Speaker 6: feeling the pressure of getting pinched. That's that's that's the
Speaker 6: world we live in now.
Speaker 5: I guess