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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is in the best shape

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Speaker 1: of its career. Welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Round the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hannis and

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by room filled with some heroes, Chris Westling

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What up, bus Hey, Dan, Good to

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Speaker 1: have you back. Oh, it's so great to be back

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Speaker 1: in just like you're just happy about life. Yeah, life

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Speaker 1: is good. It would be better if Sessler was with

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Speaker 1: us today, but he had to attend to some family

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Speaker 1: business how to leave a little earlier than usual, so

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Speaker 1: his chair is empty, so we got to wait a

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Speaker 1: couple more days before the foursome. The full room of

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Speaker 1: be back in the studio with you fellas on a

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Speaker 1: full time basis after my paternity to leave. I just

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Speaker 1: want to stay right off the top of very special

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Speaker 1: thank you to one of our great listeners, Indie Sarah,

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Speaker 1: who sent a onesie to my son Jack Master's of

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Speaker 1: the Universe onesie that um I would have loved to

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Speaker 1: Indie Sarah for that. We have a excellent show. Gentlemen, Greg,

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Speaker 1: you are the boss. You You called me while I

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Speaker 1: go to Seattle to cover the kickoff of the NFL season.

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Speaker 1: I said, yes, I would like to do that. So

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Speaker 1: I'll be heading up to Seattle for the Packers and

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks the Thursday night football game. So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get into that game. Big preview show, West. I know

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Speaker 1: you love previews. We haven't done a lot of preview

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Speaker 1: weeks we uh we told people we were done with previews.

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about. We're gonna be previewing every game.

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Speaker 1: Our Thursday show each week is going to be previewing

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Speaker 1: every game of the week. But we do. We preview stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy. Are you happy? Yeah? So we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: top super Bowl contenders in the NFL this year facing off.

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Speaker 1: I will also get into our team of a t

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Speaker 1: t L. It's been grandfathered in just through the name.

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Speaker 1: It's a one piece that we keep that the Shadowy

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Speaker 1: thirteen teams, so we're gonna nominate each of us and

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Speaker 1: and Mark uh will nominate a team not from the grave.

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Speaker 1: I would be strong to say that, but uh from

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you who it is as well.

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Speaker 1: There you go, thank you. That was the worst. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Greg has the prect pronunciation. So we're gonna get into that.

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Speaker 1: But before any of that, gentlemen, oh it's good to

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Speaker 1: be bad guys. Before any of that, we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: a little bit of news. And to do that, we

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Speaker 1: gotta introduce the great man behind the glass. Take you date.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Guys, Dan, glad to have you back,

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Speaker 1: Thanks budd to have you back. And I like to

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Speaker 1: sit in here relaxing watching the Master. I don't have

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Speaker 1: point out when I saw TV, you're the Jonah Hill

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Speaker 1: to uh Greg's at those uh mclovit. Wow, no one

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Speaker 1: are Paul Rudd, um an African American Paul Rudd because

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Speaker 1: am African? Just African? Yes, I'm both. I'm both. You

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Speaker 1: are the Paul Rudd in that analogy from the app

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go to work, all right, let's do

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Speaker 1: some news. Yes, yes, one of the top ten songs

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Speaker 1: into news. So J. J. Watt, of course is one

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Speaker 1: What got thirty point eight seven six million guaranteed at signing,

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Speaker 1: which checks out, doesn't sure he's the best defensive player

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Speaker 1: What in the last two seasons, and this, according to

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Speaker 1: But Greg, there is no room for nuance in this discussion,

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Speaker 1: you meet in Lifer, idiot, that's awesome. What a great

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Speaker 1: I had one from my eighth grade social studies teacher

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Speaker 1: and miss myself. But I won't bring it up now

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Speaker 1: because I'm not going to top that. Okay, Yes, some

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Speaker 1: other news uh from over the weekend. Ryan Mallett is

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Speaker 1: on the move. The New England Patriots have finally found

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Speaker 1: someone to take the former third round pick. The quarterback

434
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Speaker 1: has been traded to the Houston Texans for a conditional

435
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Speaker 1: seventh round pick that can become a sixth round pick

436
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Speaker 1: if Malot plays. I believe of the Texans snaps the

437
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Speaker 1: season to make room for Mallett. The Texans part of

438
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Speaker 1: ways with your boy Wes case Keenum, who's let go

439
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Speaker 1: and then properly picked up by the St. Louis Rams,

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Speaker 1: who needed another quarterback ounter Sam Bradford blew out his

441
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Speaker 1: knee again. I actually don't think this helps Keenum's chances

442
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Speaker 1: of seen playing time. I thought he had a much

443
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Speaker 1: better chance of seeing time behind Fitzpatrick. Look, a coach

444
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Speaker 1: can can only sit and watch Ryan Fitzpatrick implodes the

445
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Speaker 1: many times before we'll pull him out. Sean Hill's a

446
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Speaker 1: game manager. He'll keep you in games. He's not going

447
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Speaker 1: to implode Mallett. Then, by that logic, will play some

448
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Speaker 1: games for Houston. There's not a doubt in my mind

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Speaker 1: that Mallett will play in some games for Houston, and

450
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Speaker 1: then everyone can see why the Patriots had to basically

451
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Speaker 1: give him away because they mismanaged this lately. I think

452
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Speaker 1: they could have gotten they were trying to trade him,

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Speaker 1: and they probably could have had a mid round pick

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Speaker 1: a year or two ago. It wasn't worth waiting. He's

455
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Speaker 1: a free agent after the year. The Texans are gonna

456
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Speaker 1: want to see at some point what he has. Right,

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Speaker 1: I would like to wage your a sandwich with you,

458
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Speaker 1: Mr Westling that case, keen And will start more games

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Speaker 1: than Ryan Mellot this year. Do you choose to accept

460
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Speaker 1: those terms? Absolutely? Can I get in on that? Yeah? Sure,

461
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Speaker 1: come on, buddy, all right, I'm on west side. You're

462
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Speaker 1: taking Keenum. Yeah, okay, which, by the way, I'm with

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Speaker 1: west while we're doing some bookkeeping. West We did wager

464
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Speaker 1: earlier in the offseason that Geno Smith, Mark and I

465
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Speaker 1: both But no, we're even Stephen now because I never

466
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Speaker 1: got you your Johnny Manziel sandwich, So we're even Greg.

467
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Speaker 1: You and I have a sandwich at Richie Incognito will

468
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Speaker 1: return to the league. I have that he will. He's

469
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Speaker 1: been cleared. It looks like we're heading down the well.

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Speaker 1: We thought so. For a day or two, it looked

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Speaker 1: like You're gonna be digging in. But now I've got

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Speaker 1: got a chance. Sanity is sandwiches. We have a few

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Speaker 1: more to write and well another one will be decided

474
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Speaker 1: officially though next week, Chris, you told me that Matt

475
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Speaker 1: Flynn would not be on the Packers opening day roster,

476
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Speaker 1: and I told you meat ball with cheese boom. I'll

477
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Speaker 1: make up on that with the Robert Woods. Which reminds me,

478
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Speaker 1: Which reminds me. Before the season starts in earnest, we

479
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 1: should definitely have a game of go get my lunch?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, get is Uh, it's supposed to be implied.

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Speaker 1: You always forget that. Oh that is a game. Oh okay. Yeah.

482
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Speaker 1: We should definitely get some wagers out there before this

483
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Speaker 1: season really gets underway. Do we have an opportunity? I

484
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Speaker 1: guess today would have been a visit this job. What

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Speaker 1: about Thursday? Well, yeah, we're gonna be previewing. Why do

486
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Speaker 1: we do it next week? It's all right, all right,

487
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Speaker 1: we'll do it next week. We'll do it next Wednesday.

488
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Speaker 1: Our new schedule. By the way, for all our listeners

489
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Speaker 1: out there, Sunday nights, we're gonna be in here late.

490
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Speaker 1: We'll recap the whole week. It'll be ready for you

491
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Speaker 1: early Monday morning on the East Coast, and then we'll

492
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Speaker 1: be back here on Wednesdays and Friday mornings for our

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Speaker 1: previous show. Okay, good, nice plug there, Greig. And finally,

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Ursy, who we know gotten some

495
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Speaker 1: trouble earlier this year after a police stop, has been

496
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Speaker 1: suspended six games and five find five thousand dollars for

497
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Speaker 1: his d w I arrest in March. The suspension begins

498
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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, and we'll last until after the Colts game

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Speaker 1: against the Houston Texans on October nine. Uh. And obviously

500
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Speaker 1: Jim Mercy will have no connection to the team during

501
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Speaker 1: that time and he'll be able to I guess put

502
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Speaker 1: this behind him. But right now he's got to move

503
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Speaker 1: forward and deal with the suspension and pay the fine,

504
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Speaker 1: which I think he could probably handle. And he cited

505
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Speaker 1: his addiction problems in in this statement. I mean, he

506
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Speaker 1: went out of his way to say he think he's

507
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Speaker 1: trying to see this as a positive because it's helped

508
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Speaker 1: him confront his addiction. His dad had a very public

509
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Speaker 1: battle with addiction to and six weeks I thought it

510
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Speaker 1: might be a little more, and he's he's agreed to

511
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Speaker 1: drug testing as well. So this is gonna be a

512
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Speaker 1: real challenge for a guy that struggled his whole life

513
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Speaker 1: or in many recent years with this addiction. The league

514
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Speaker 1: is going to be involved with the drug testing now,

515
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Speaker 1: so that is something else to watch going forward. It's

516
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Speaker 1: not as surprising because they suspended Tom Luan, the Lions president,

517
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Speaker 1: for a month for similar offense, so it seemed like

518
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Speaker 1: this was what they had to do. And finally, Kyle

519
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Speaker 1: Orton is back in the NFL. The quarterback who was

520
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Speaker 1: released by the Dallas Cowboys assigned a two year deal

521
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Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills worth I believe eleven million dollars

522
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Speaker 1: five point five this upcoming season. The rare uh news

523
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Speaker 1: piece that Ian sent into our desk and then he

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Speaker 1: ended it with the word really, because he thought people

525
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Speaker 1: might be kidding that Kyle or is making this much

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Speaker 1: of money. So Orton now steps in and it becomes E. J.

527
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Speaker 1: Manuel's backup, which I supposes an upgrade over Jeff Toole

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Speaker 1: and other characters. Well, at least initially, I've got to

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Speaker 1: go get my lunch proposition for you. Maybe you should

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Speaker 1: save it for all we do it, all right, let's

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Speaker 1: say it. Let me guess it has something to do

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Speaker 1: with Kyle or and it's starting games. Yes, definitely, it's

533
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,719
Speaker 1: already out there. Basically, what happened here was the Bills

534
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Speaker 1: paid five million dollars to ensure that the Browns won't

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Speaker 1: have the first two picks and next year straight That

536
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Speaker 1: Sessler's big theory if you if you missed it, Dan,

537
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Speaker 1: that that they're going to have the first two picks

538
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Speaker 1: the brown zone, the Bills pick, they have their own pick,

539
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Speaker 1: and then they're gonna trade up with themselves if they

540
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Speaker 1: finally get their quarterbacks. If you're Emmanuel, how do you

541
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Speaker 1: feel right now that not only were you not voted

542
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Speaker 1: one of the team captains, but they went out and

543
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: pull they pulled out of retirement. A dude who would

544
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: rather be on his couch than playing five million dollars

545
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: for this year is no joke. A backup quarterback that's

546
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: not backup quarterbacks. Josh McCowen money e j Manuel's leash

547
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: definitely doesn't go past September if he's not playing well

548
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: with that much money committed to the backup, it's a

549
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: panic move, Like you can't really argue against it because

550
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Speaker 1: it are It does upgrade what they have, but it's

551
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Speaker 1: a panic moved. It reminds me a little bit of

552
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Speaker 1: Josh Freeman last year in Minnesota. It's just when the

553
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: ship is sinking that these are the things that a panic.

554
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Speaker 1: But it's prudent. I'm not joking about that draft pick thing.

555
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: The Bills have to ensure that they don't give up

556
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Speaker 1: the second pick in the draft. Yikes. Alright, gentlemen, that's

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Speaker 1: what's happening. Hey, t D. Before we move into the

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Speaker 1: next portion, I want to add one more bit of

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Speaker 1: news that you know, we're all big Prianka fans in

560
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Speaker 1: this room. The Thursday Night football theme song Lady from

561
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: last year. I know are one of our former producers,

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Speaker 1: the great k Rich. We actually saw today. Was great

563
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Speaker 1: to see k Rich. She uh efforted for a long

564
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: time trying to get k Rich on the show or

565
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: excuse and try to get Pan on the show. Never happened.

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00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: So maybe because that pak is out and in announced

567
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: by CBS and NFL Network, the new singer is no

568
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Speaker 1: other than Rihanna. That will be the song that will use,

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Speaker 1: of course, the two thousand nine jay Z Kanye with

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Speaker 1: Rihanna on the hook there Run this Town nice late

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Speaker 1: period jay Z single. I always thought Print three. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I liked Prianka, but that's an upgrade right there.

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Speaker 1: I kind of agree with you. And also somehow Don

574
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Speaker 1: cheatles involved. That's the other thing. He's involved somehow in

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Speaker 1: the in the intro. So this will be the CBS alright,

576
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Speaker 1: sa don Cheat always gets called in to replace other

577
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Speaker 1: either way. But Rihanna was actually here in in the

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Speaker 1: in the office, that's right, the one day I was

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Speaker 1: out of work that yeah, So I guess this is

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00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: part of the deal or I don't know that. That's

581
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: right up there. When we had a fire drill a

582
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: couple of years ago and Chrissy Teagan for whatever reason,

583
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: it was in the building and I ended up and

584
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: being next to her in the fire drill, and I

585
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: didn't realize it was her until she was gone. Bad

586
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: moved by you, Dan, bad job. So that's it. So

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00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: it's over. The Prianka Rane is one and done. Rihanna

588
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Speaker 1: is in in the house. She was on for two years, Prianka,

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00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 1: did you get two years? Sorry? Sorry Panica. Alright, so, gentlemen,

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00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: what do we want to talk about next? Do we

591
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Speaker 1: want to get into the team of atl or do

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00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: we want to talk about Thursday night football? Did we

593
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: do Thursday night football? First? All right? That sounds like

594
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: you answered that. The Green Bay Packers are heading to Seattle,

595
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: the toughest place to play in the NFL, they say,

596
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: to face the defending Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks in

597
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Speaker 1: a game that they're calling revenge of the Fail. Mary, No, no, no,

598
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: get it wrong. It's Phil Mary two wrote redemption reption

599
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: because we did, because we did a movie trailer for

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Speaker 1: the season, right, we didn't move. This guy here produced

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Speaker 1: a movie trailer for this, for this matchup. So that's

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Speaker 1: the title I gave to the movie. So it's wait

603
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Speaker 1: just for our our listeners. This guy here is youth.

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Speaker 1: There's not anyone else. So it's fail married to Colon.

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Speaker 1: Wait is the two? The number two is at the

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Speaker 1: Roman world. Okay, okay, so it's fell married to Colon.

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00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: Road to Redemption. Okay, Yeah, Redemption is a strong word

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Speaker 1: to use for the Packers, but I went dramatic it

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Speaker 1: was part of the Marvel cinematic universe. In my mind,

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Speaker 1: am I the only one who doesn't care about fail Mary?

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00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: And which is? It would just go away? I was,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter here who we had the same discussion.

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Speaker 1: I stopped by the Dave Damask Football program on Monday

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Speaker 1: and we talked about the same thing. I think that's

615
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Speaker 1: way more a media product than the players, Tin Tebow

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Speaker 1: and a few other issues going on right now. The

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00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: media loves it, fans don't care. We don't need any

618
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: hokey hook these are. This is such a good game.

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Speaker 1: I almost wish it wasn't the first game of the year,

620
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: because I'd be excited enough for Cardinals. Shaks, you give

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Speaker 1: me the best game on the NFL schedule this year,

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Speaker 1: I'd like this thing on Sunday Night in Week fifteen

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Speaker 1: or something. How about this, fellas I'll tell you right now,

624
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Speaker 1: usually we're gonna do our picks again this year. Every

625
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: game we will pick, and we'll have a big contest

626
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Speaker 1: to see who's the greatest of all the greats. I'm

627
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 1: telling you, I'm picking the Packers in Week one. If

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Speaker 1: I'm alone on that, but I think this is the

629
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Speaker 1: Packers year I've already predicted to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I predicted that they need the tiebreaker to have home

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Speaker 1: field and the title game, so they better win Week

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00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: one big game, and I think the Packers. I picked

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00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: the Packers to win the super Bowl too, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think I'm gonna pick them this have a Sessler

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Speaker 1: that they're gonna win this game. Wow, But I don't

636
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: know if I'm gonna go with that. Well, yeah, Luck,

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Speaker 1: it's not a Sessler if you don't try to talk

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Speaker 1: him into it. Because I want a hero pick on

639
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: us there. I want you guys to both lose. They're

640
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: playing in the Legion of Doom. Nobody gets out of

641
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: those boom. I call it doom because people are doomed

642
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: when they entered there. I think pets McMahon right, and

643
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: just for though they don't know, that's the play off

644
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: the Legion of Doom, which is the Justice League team.

645
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: I thought it was a Wrestlers the former Road Warriors. Well,

646
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: I'm this might surprise you, but I don't really care

647
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: about these contrived nicknames that they've created to sell teach

648
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: all right, we got it? What what logical reason? Though? Uh?

649
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: Do we have to think that the Seahawks are gonna lose.

650
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: They're they're looking in the preseason like they were ready

651
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: to go. Well, have you seen the Packers offense in

652
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: the preseason. Yeah, I love him. I picked him to

653
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. There you go. That's a logical.

654
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: I think it's not. Personally. I don't think it's a

655
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: situation where the Seahawks are gonna lay an egg on

656
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: Thursday Night, like the way the Giants did a couple

657
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: of years ago when they defended the title against the Cowboys.

658
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: I think they're just happening to run into a big

659
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: time team that I think they'll see again in January.

660
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: And uh, I don't know it is it's a stinger

661
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: my part on some level too. I think the Packers

662
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: gonna put up the points and I think they're gonna

663
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: get it done. It's gonna be a close game. I

664
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: think a field goal will decide it one way or

665
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: the other. I was talking to Alex Gelhar in the newsroom.

666
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: He's kind of our jack of all trades in the newsroom,

667
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: and he was reminding me of the Bucks game where

668
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: they almost upset the Seahawks in Seattle last year with

669
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: Mike James running for a hundred fifty yards or something,

670
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: just blowing through kind of a power back, just blowing

671
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: right up the gut. I think we could see Eddie

672
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: Lacy do some of that. The Seahawks aren't made to

673
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: stop big backs. I think that'll be a one thing

674
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: to watch in this game. Or the two lines, especially

675
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: for Seattle. I mean their offensive line, people, forget, was

676
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: one of the worst in the league at past protecting.

677
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: Now you got j R. Sweezy and Justin britt rookies

678
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: probably starting at right tackle. And you know, I want

679
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: to see if this Packers pass rush. Now we got

680
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: clear Matthews back, they got Julius Peppers on the other side,

681
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: Mike Daniels got are making the leap guys. To me,

682
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: it's more about whether the Packers defense is actually gonna

683
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: be better this year, like we've been saying all offseason,

684
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: because they've started out these seasons a couple of times

685
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: on national TV, whether against the forty Niners or Saints,

686
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: and give up thirty five points. I could see I

687
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 1: could see that happening too, alright, So obviously I took

688
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: the Packers. Uh, gentlemen, let's hear your official picks. I'm

689
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: taking the Seahawks. You feel like this new Packers no

690
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: huddle offenses for real. They'll score thirty points and just

691
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: barely lose. Because you had me on the hook there,

692
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: I had to go with my head over my gut. Alright,

693
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: So there you have it. We have one pick for

694
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Speaker 1: the Packers and two for the Seahawks. Uh. The game

695
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: will be played Thursday night, and and I'll be there.

696
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: I'll be there looking forward to that. I mean, we're

697
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: under selling this, bad boy. These are the two most

698
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: talented teams in the league, along with the Saints. Are

699
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: you kidding me? The top? Right? Though, it's almost weird

700
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: to bang this game out on Thursday night before the

701
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: first Sunday of the year. I like it's cool though.

702
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: It reminds me of that St. Seahawks or SATs Packer's

703
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: game from a few years ago thirty three to thirty

704
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: or thirty six thirty three. It was a great game

705
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: to start off the season. I'm kind of fired up

706
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 1: about this. I like having this game in the first game.

707
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: Everybody gets to see it and will after the game's over,

708
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: You gentlemen will come upstairs to the podcast Studios sixty six.

709
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna get me on the horn after I come

710
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: back from the locker room. I mean, we are all

711
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: over this. This is why we won the Stitcher, this

712
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: is why we're best at two two thousand thirteen iTunes,

713
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: this is why society has viewed us as something to

714
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: listen to. And we're not resting on our laurels because

715
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: you get vacations to Seattle. No, because we're gonna be

716
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: in here on Thursday night. Last year, people like that

717
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: the fact we'd have game analysis right after the game.

718
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: So now we're doing it Thursday nights to give the

719
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: people what they want. That's Vincent, man, That's true. A

720
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: lot of Barry Harrowitz backslapping here. So yeah, so get

721
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: ready for Thursday, and we will now get ready to

722
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Speaker 1: finally announce our official nominees for the Team of a

723
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Speaker 1: t L. And there's only one way to really kind

724
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: of kick this off and earnest, and that is give

725
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: it to our man, Dick Banks, the team only. This

726
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: is a very special honor. I like it that Bob

727
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: Dylan hasn't retired. He's still writing. So a lot of

728
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: music on this show. The One Man house Band, Uh,

729
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: thank you, damn A shack of course and Dick Banks

730
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: have worked together for a long time. Put me in

731
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: touch with the man. I had a nice about thirty

732
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: minute conversation with Dick before he recorded that It is good. Yeah,

733
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: this guy's quite a talker and a good guy. So

734
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: thank you for that. That and that really sets the stage.

735
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: And now that you have a theme song, UM, I

736
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: will now go through their only thirteen teams that have

737
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: not been eliminated. In the time that I was away

738
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: with my young son and wife, there was UM teams eliminated.

739
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: A number of teams if I knew how to subtract,

740
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: thirty two minus thirteen nineteen eliminated. So this is who's left.

741
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: The Steelers, the Browns, but the Jaguars, Commers, the Colts, Chargers, Ravens, Vikings, Packers, Bears, Panthers.

742
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: And that is because we roll anybody that was a

743
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: previous team of a t L, as the Panthers were

744
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: last year. Doesn't really matter what happens in the offseason,

745
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: you're at least you're what do they call it, You're

746
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 1: pushed directly into the first elimination chamber. The Saints, Bucks,

747
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: and finally the Cardinals, the only NFC West team available

748
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: for Team of a T L this year. So that's

749
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: a thirteen team. So I guess before we go today, Uh,

750
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: we will all three of us and I will I'll

751
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: let you know Marks in a moment what his his

752
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: finals pick is. So they are of these four picks,

753
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: the team of a T will most likely where there's

754
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: a good chance, Team of a T will be one

755
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: of these teams. But we also reserve the right. We

756
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: won't name the Team of a TL until probably around

757
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: week three or four, like we did last year. We

758
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: also reserved the right to use a Matthew mulligan. If

759
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: there's a team that we previously eliminated, we will bring

760
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: them back in because honestly, who's even tracking this? Seriously, No,

761
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: we're not even really doing someone someone was sending us.

762
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: There's a spreadsheet out there now he had a whole

763
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: helmet the I love our listeners. I love our listeners.

764
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: So yes, we h we will give four finalists now

765
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: and potentially they will be the team in fatil. So

766
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: we'll start with Mark Sessler since he's not here in absentia.

767
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler chose the Minnesota Vikings as his nominee as

768
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 1: the Team of a T L, a team with a

769
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, the best running back in the league, and

770
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: I young nucleus there of course, Corturel Patterson uh some

771
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: reasons to be excited. So Mark chooses the Minnesota Vikings,

772
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: playing outdoors aprove our number one making the leap. Wow,

773
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: they are coming out of nowhere and looking like a

774
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: really strong contender right now. They're number two on my

775
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: power list. And let's yeah, and let's let's reserve any

776
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: h if you have a doubt about someone's pick, this

777
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: is not really the place to shoot it down right now.

778
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: We're just revealing the nominees and we'll now throw it

779
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: to the mailman. Chris Westling with his nominee as of

780
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: the team of a t L. Well, I've been talking

781
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: them up all offseason, so I have to stay with

782
00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers, who are on the ballot of two

783
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,959
Speaker 1: of our writers for the Super Bowl. That's a nice pick,

784
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: and I know Mark Sessler, who is not here in absentia,

785
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: might not be comfortable with that. But at the same time,

786
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: I think he understands as we all do, that this

787
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: team has a chance to be much improved this year,

788
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: and they didn't have a great preseason, but there's a

789
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: lot of track record. They're in a great quarterback and

790
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: a good coach. Al Right, so we're not allowed to

791
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: say anything negative. That's the rule here. Well, we don't

792
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: want to go crazy. You can throw out VP pick

793
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: from last year. Now, I'm just saying, there's something about

794
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: the Steelers as the team with so many Lombardi trophies,

795
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: as the team of ato that has nothing to do

796
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 1: with it. Well, I don't know. I think it's nothing

797
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: to do I think it does. So the same reason

798
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: why we weren't going to pick the Seahawks because they're

799
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: defending champs, that's not why, because it doesn't matter what

800
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: the Steelers did ten years ago. So bring them, make

801
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: them your nomination. Now, I'm gonna go with a team

802
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: in their division, the Arizona Cardinals, Bruce Arians with the

803
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: Kane goal hat. You know, Carson Palmer rejuvenation, gonna make

804
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: everyone go crazy. John Brown and Larry Fitzgerald, Michael Floyd

805
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: Andrea Ellet. This is gonna be a fun team to watch.

806
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: Their defensively better than you think. I noticed you didn't

807
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: mention their defense until the end. That's because you've been

808
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: trashing him because I don't care. You know what, this

809
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: is a fan base. I'm kind of also, I'm rooting

810
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: for the fan base. That's what I'm saying. This is

811
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: this team has been beaten down. I want to see

812
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 1: a new team win the Super Bowl, have some fun,

813
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: nice pick and you get You are getting behind Carson Palmer,

814
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: which I feel like it's a little bit just as

815
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: my fantasy team I did the same thing. I'm feeling

816
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: a little loozy about it. You're doing the same thing

817
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: and getting behind Carson saying he could lead a team

818
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: deep into the playoffs the best division league. Maybe it

819
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: seems fun. And you know in the in the oscars

820
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: when they say it's an honor to be just nominated.

821
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: These teams all feel the same way. I've heard from

822
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: GM's across the league. My team, I choose the San

823
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: Diego Chargers as my nominee for the Team of a

824
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 1: t L. I just like what's going on in San Diego,

825
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: and I like what we saw last year. Uh Philip

826
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: Rivers rejuvenated. We got some really nice players on both

827
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. I like what the coaching staff

828
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: has done there, and I think that that is a

829
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: team that we've all kind of been This is part

830
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: of for me a little bit. It was a group think.

831
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: I know, we've all kind of been been into them

832
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: in the off season. I feel like they deserve a

833
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: nomination as a finalist. So I not to the San

834
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: Diego Chargers as the final nominees tim of a t L.

835
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: I like that one, So that's it. The final nominees

836
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: are the Vikings, West to Steelers, Steelers, Chargers, and Cardinals,

837
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 1: so those are most likely one of those four teams

838
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: will be the Team of at L unless we have

839
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: to take Matthew Mulligan. There's a little known factor that

840
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: we haven't explained on the Team of a t L.

841
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: So when we try to figure out who's gonna cover

842
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: games each week, it matters like who you're excited to watch. Yes,

843
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: very good point, and I'm not excited to watch the Chargers,

844
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: but they fit a lot of the other criteria and

845
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: just for maybe new listeners, that team of at L.

846
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: We picked the Panthers last year last September, a team

847
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 1: that we really like to watch and we get behind

848
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: and it's kind of the team that gets all our

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Speaker 1: good juju throughout the season. So that's it. No need

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Speaker 1: to get Rachel all right, I apologize for that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So that's it for today's edition of the Other Around

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Speaker 1: the League excuse me, the Around the NFL podcast that

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Speaker 1: will take a little while to get used to. We

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Speaker 1: will be back again on Thursday. I'll be in Seattle,

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Speaker 1: the rest of the heroes will be in here and

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Speaker 1: we will go over the great Thursday night football matchup

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Speaker 1: and preview all the Week one games, So get excited

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Speaker 1: for that. Thank you for listening, and we'll see them.

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Speaker 1: This is Dan Hansis signing up for The Mailman and

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