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Speaker 1: is such a great debate for me because again, two

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Speaker 1: be any logical or rational both sided arguments when it

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Speaker 1: comes to this. But who will have more success over

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Speaker 1: the next five years, Georgia or Alabama. Here's the way

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Speaker 1: type to bet against Nick Saban, But when I'm scanning

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Speaker 1: know Nick eventually is going to retire. Will it be

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Speaker 1: up to the robot. Like we've talked about Sabertron three thousand.

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Speaker 1: You never know, Elon Musk doing a lot of interesting things. Bezos,

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Speaker 1: those billionaires, you never know. But Kirby's really just getting cooking.

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Speaker 1: midterms in the elections. You win the election, then get

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Speaker 1: everybody at the top. Every dynasty falls, the Ming dynasty,

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Speaker 1: know they have the personnel. But Kirby is an unbelievable

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Speaker 1: building it the way that Saban built it, and he's

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Speaker 1: looking to take over the mantel. What's the one mountain

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Speaker 1: is a good enough recruiter. George is a good enough

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Speaker 1: They'll always have great talent in state and around. George

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Speaker 1: You just let the machine work. Now, not that you

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Speaker 1: continue to be really good. But over the next five years,

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Speaker 1: So when I'm looking five years down the road, Nick

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Speaker 1: Dent went out. West College football is Look, Georgia wins

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Speaker 1: telling you guys, Georgia is about to take over. You

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Speaker 1: I look at Brian Kelly taking that job in the

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Speaker 1: it's not a hidden secret. They know George's next up.

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Speaker 1: But y'all haven't. And I know you beat Alabama in

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Speaker 1: the regular season, but when it comes down to postseason stuff.

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Speaker 1: I know Georgia hasn't won the Natty Sys nineteen eighty,

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Speaker 1: but they've been closer than anybody else really that hasn't

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Speaker 1: won it. All it takes is one what is it

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Speaker 1: on Little Giants? Nine times out of ten team destroys us?

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Speaker 1: But that one time you always remember that one time,

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Speaker 1: and that one time starts Saturday, and then you turn

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Speaker 1: you give Kirby smart that we beat Bama bullet in

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Speaker 1: the championship game. It's like hitting a werewolf with a

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Speaker 1: silver bullet, going down like a sweet muffin. Nick Saban

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Speaker 1: on his way out eventually, because again, guy's time is time.

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Speaker 1: He's not Benjamin Button. I'm sorry, he's not getting younger. Eventually,

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Speaker 1: Saban will be gone. Kirby is next up. But the

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Speaker 1: biggest question is who does Bama bringing after that? I

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Speaker 1: still say it's Mario crystal Ball. But even if it's Mario,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna replicate what Nick Saban's done.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody will replicate what Nick Saban has

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Speaker 1: been able to do. But George is gonna get damn

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Speaker 1: close they're gonna get They've got it, checks every box,

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Speaker 1: every box. And you're in the East and I know

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Speaker 1: Tennessee's coming up, but George is not worried about that.

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Speaker 1: Ran through them like a wet paper bag. Kentucky doing

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Speaker 1: a lot better. George is not stunting that. George is

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Speaker 1: gonna run the East. Florida hiring by Napier. Great, It's

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Speaker 1: gonna take time, and good for Billy Napi. You want

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Speaker 1: to talk about guy that's that's not afraid. Florida's right

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Speaker 1: next door. That's a rivalry game. Billy's not scared, but

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Speaker 1: Billy knows he knows the battle. So over the next

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Speaker 1: five years, give me Georgia because I think Kirby, to

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Speaker 1: quote a very smart man on a very popular TV show,

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Speaker 1: I think he just figured out blues clues. Well, originally

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Speaker 1: we were thrown around who has the higher ceiling, right,

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Speaker 1: and the obvious answer has to be Georgia because Alabama

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Speaker 1: sort of hit that ceiling. When you've won a national

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Speaker 1: of hit that seiling. This is okay, Well, who's going

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Speaker 1: to have more success over the next five years. I

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Speaker 1: still think you would be a smart man to say Georgia.

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Speaker 1: But here's what I'm saying. You said it earlier. Nick

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Speaker 1: Saban is the greatest coach of all time, right okay?

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Speaker 1: And I remember five, six, seven years ago, right whatever,

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Speaker 1: tom Brady would run out and he'd throw that first

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Speaker 1: interception of the season, Max Kellerman and the crew. Everyone

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Speaker 1: wanted to be the first to say tom Brady's done.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady's finished. Right, Well, he's proven it so much

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Speaker 1: that everyone's kind of quieted down. You know why, because

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Speaker 1: you don't make money betting against the best. Nick Saban's

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Speaker 1: not going to go away quietly. So I think that

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Speaker 1: Georgia is a safe bet here to say with what

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Speaker 1: And I don't see Nick Saban has had his last

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Speaker 1: second half of the Missisippi State game and just the

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Speaker 1: lack of adjustments was was um was mind blowing um.

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Speaker 1: And so I don't know, you know, I think Derek

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Speaker 1: Mason's a really good recruiter and and and Harson needs

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Speaker 1: those and so I I could see potentially, given how

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Speaker 1: the Iron Bowl went, I could see how I could

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Speaker 1: see Mason kind of saving his job per se, and

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Speaker 1: getting another year because I do think he's a good

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Speaker 1: leader um and and a good recruiter and I think

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Speaker 1: Parson needs that. But you know, you call those yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. I just I don't know, you

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Speaker 1: know right now if a change is gonna be made there,

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Speaker 1: I get the feeling that he may have saved his job. Um,

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Speaker 1: We'll just we'll just have to to wait and see,

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Speaker 1: because they need to rebuild that that defense too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of positions there to get and I

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Speaker 1: wonder how involved Derek Mason is with some of those

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Speaker 1: guys like Curtis Perry and others. I mean, you saw

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Speaker 1: some of the Offensive recruits all said we're staying at

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Speaker 1: Holden Grinder, Tomari Austin, the Offensive commit kids that are

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Speaker 1: committed pretty much of all like immediately we're like, no,

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Speaker 1: we're good. So it kind of makes me when we're like,

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Speaker 1: you know, from a recruiting aspect, was there just kind

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Speaker 1: of Bubba was like there's nothing to bring there, whereas

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Speaker 1: maybe Mason's got that in his bag to give him

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Speaker 1: another year. I don't know, No, that that's a good thought,

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Speaker 1: That that's an angle I really haven't explored that much.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about candidates for this OC job,

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Speaker 1: and then I want to talk about bo Nix and

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Speaker 1: some guys getting in the portal. Who are a few

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Speaker 1: names off I mean, we've heard Zach Hill, We've heard

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Speaker 1: Matt Wells. You know you can go to you look

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, just kind of off the top of

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Speaker 1: your head. Who are a few guys that Auburn fans

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Speaker 1: need to be looking out for. Those are definitely too

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Speaker 1: and we had those up at Auburnlive dot com and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure other places. Those are pretty obvious. Seems like

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Speaker 1: those would make sense, right, Like Zach Hill spent time

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Speaker 1: with Brian Hartson, Matt Wells was an offensive coordinator at

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Speaker 1: Utah State and has head coaching experience, and let's just

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Speaker 1: let go at Texas Tech. So like, I think both

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Speaker 1: of those would probably be good hires. Um. I think

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Speaker 1: it's important for Brian Harson and the way he wants

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Speaker 1: to run a program. I mean, you think about what

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Speaker 1: I just said about we heard early on that there

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Speaker 1: was not a great mesh between Bobo Friend and Harson.

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Speaker 1: Now I don't know if will Friends gonna stick around.

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Speaker 1: That could depend on the O C Well He's been

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Speaker 1: with Bobo for it seems like his entire career, or

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Speaker 1: seems like where Bobo goes, he goes, he's a friend.

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Speaker 1: See what I did there? YEA, So early on we

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Speaker 1: heard about this fit issue. So I would focus on

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Speaker 1: that too, in the fact that Harson's gonna need to

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Speaker 1: get somebody in there where the fit. Think about Cornelis

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Speaker 1: Williams getting lego and who gets promoted Eric Kiesaw, who's

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Speaker 1: been with Brian Harson. So I just I think that's

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Speaker 1: an important part too, which is why maybe you hear

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Speaker 1: Zach Hill and the way Harson runs that program. Man,

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Speaker 1: you've got to be on the same page as him.

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Speaker 1: There's standards, there's there's a level of expectations, and he's

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Speaker 1: just not playing around and you've got to be on

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Speaker 1: that same wavelength as him or or you know, it

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Speaker 1: might not work. And so I think that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: really important. You talked about maybe a young NFL think

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Speaker 1: about Joe Brady and coming in that that could that

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Speaker 1: could be as well. I would imagine he would go

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Speaker 1: after somebody in college first and then maybe if that

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Speaker 1: doesn't work for whatever reason, go after an up and

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Speaker 1: comer type OC. But it needs to be somebody that

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Speaker 1: meshes with what Harson wants to do offensively, um, but

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Speaker 1: also is with the vision and with the and with

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Speaker 1: the program. Yeah and again, you know, and I'll press

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Speaker 1: on this point. Brian Harson is interviewing these guys, so

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Speaker 1: you got to know how to hire guys that are

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Speaker 1: going to do what you want to do. And I

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Speaker 1: don't doubt that it's not like this is Brian Harson's

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Speaker 1: first head coaching gig. He knows how to interview guys.

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Speaker 1: But you can see with Cornelius now with Bobo, we

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Speaker 1: don't know if there's gonna be other staff changes that

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Speaker 1: You've got to hit on the right guys, and you've

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Speaker 1: got to be able to be thorough in the interview process,

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Speaker 1: and they've got to know that. You've got to make

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Speaker 1: that known to them that you're you're coming into this ship.

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Speaker 1: I'm the captain to this ship. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: put you in the brig. But you're also not going

506
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Speaker 1: to be the one steering the steering wheel. So it's

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Speaker 1: kind of that balance in between. Hoka had Bo Nixon

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Speaker 1: yesterday a really good interview him. He talked about his

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Speaker 1: love for Auburn, how you know nobody. He wants Auburn

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Speaker 1: to do better than anybody. I mean, he's a guy

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Speaker 1: that grew up in it. You know his dad, Patrick Knicks. Uh. Now,

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Speaker 1: with Bobo leaving, what are your odds that bow Knicks

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Speaker 1: is a quarterback at Auburn next year? Because we saw

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Speaker 1: the TJ. Finley experiment and it wasn't great. Yeah, it

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00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: wasn't great. Um, Demetrius Davis, wh's a freshman, looks like

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Speaker 1: he's gonna stay at Auburn. UM, and so you know

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Speaker 1: you've got that guy, don't look like he's leaving. Odds

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Speaker 1: on bow Knicks, Um, who I mean, I wouldn't go

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I would go as far as to

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Speaker 1: say fifty fifty. Um, I would probably still lean that

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Speaker 1: he comes back. But you know, I don't know that

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Speaker 1: I would go seventy thirty that he comes back either.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe sixty five forty would make me feel comfortable. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think bos got some decisions to make.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the college football landscape with the transfer portal

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Speaker 1: and in I L has changed a lot since he

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Speaker 1: arrived at Auburn, So there's there's business decisions to make there, right,

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Speaker 1: You've got a dad who is very smart, who's coach,

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Speaker 1: you know, the head coach in high school football and

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Speaker 1: knows the lay of the land. And so there's some

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Speaker 1: dynamics there that it's not just as simple as like

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Speaker 1: just stay. I mean, there's a lot they're they're thinking

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Speaker 1: through all the different angles. Um, whether that's I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine turning pro like I mean, would you know, he's

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Speaker 1: got enough talent he may end up on a roster

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Speaker 1: or get a shot, but I can't imagine, um, you

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Speaker 1: know that that's a really great opportunity. I think transferring,

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Speaker 1: you know, is certainly in the in the that that

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Speaker 1: door's open um, which that would be shocking, right to

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Speaker 1: see mister mister Auburn bow Nicks transferred to another school

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Speaker 1: would be just just odd, but one in the nutshell

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Speaker 1: really Yeah, And we told our board, look, he's gotten

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Speaker 1: a lot of criticism in his time at Auburn, and

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Speaker 1: from what I understand, that is playing a part here,

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Speaker 1: and not just him but his family and his dad

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Speaker 1: wanting him to be in the best situation for him

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Speaker 1: and if it's not Auburn, where he's just gonna get

548
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Speaker 1: lamb basted every single time he does something wrong, you

549
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: can bobie it the best, the best he can be

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00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: under those circumstances. He does he need to just get

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Speaker 1: out of Auburn? Is it too much? I think that's

552
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: things they're thinking about right now versus coming back for

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Speaker 1: one more year under what would be his fourth OC

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Speaker 1: in four years. Yeah. I mean you look a lot

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Speaker 1: of people that they were calling for t J. Finley

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Speaker 1: to replace bow Knicks, you know early in the season.

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Speaker 1: Are the people that just continually bashed bow Knicks are

558
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: eating a Thanksgiving size portion of crow right now, and

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00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: they're probably the same people begging him to stay. Last question,

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Speaker 1: we got Justin Hookinson here from Auburn Live. That's the

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Speaker 1: ON three affiliate. Make sure you head over there. Sean

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Speaker 1: Shivers in the portal, Caleb Johnson and the portal. How

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Speaker 1: many more players do you think will end up in

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Speaker 1: the portal for Auburn. I feel like I just missed somebody.

565
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: Elijah Canyon, Elijah Canyon Man, that guy look good in

566
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: the ball game against Northwestern. Guess he just couldn't figure

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00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, he had that catch. Remember, um, I

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Speaker 1: think there will be a few more. There will be

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Speaker 1: a few more and I told our board like a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, because I knew this was coming.

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Speaker 1: I said, look, guys, there will be transfers. I was like,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna happen in this day and age. You need

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Speaker 1: you need to rewire your brain on how you look

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Speaker 1: at transfers. Um. Now, if bow or tank that you

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00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: could look at that a little differently. Um. But but

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Speaker 1: if guy's transfer, you got to take a step back,

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Speaker 1: especially in the first year under Brian Harrison, third go

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Speaker 1: into be guys leave and I wouldn't really freak out

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Speaker 1: about it too much. None of those guys Kenny didn't play,

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Speaker 1: Hayleb Johnson was in trouble all the time, Sean Chivers

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Speaker 1: played some, but then as the season went on, his

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Speaker 1: minutes went down. I could see Auburn losing another receiver,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe somebody like Xavian Capers who didn't play much.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know for sure, but that's

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Speaker 1: like a guy that would come to mind as talented,

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Speaker 1: maybe didn't have the season he wanted. UM And I'm

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Speaker 1: sure there will be others. I think it'll it's also

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Speaker 1: Kitha who can Auburn and bring back can Can can

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Speaker 1: a couple of these seniors take another year, uh Keno

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Speaker 1: and Patoe come back? You know, that would really help them. Um,

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00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: that would really help him as well. So, but I'm

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Speaker 1: not too Honestly, I'm not too concerned about who leaves

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Speaker 1: Auburn from the transfer portal because it's Brian Harson's first

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Speaker 1: year and if they leave, I have to think outside

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Speaker 1: a tank, right, nobody would want Tank to leave, but

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Speaker 1: I would have to think that Brian Harrison and them

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Speaker 1: probably are not worried about They probably made decisions they

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Speaker 1: knew we're not gonna play him. Guys probably gonna transfer.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, and I don't you know, that's just the

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Speaker 1: reality of the situation. So outside of big time guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm not that concerned. If guy's transfer. He needs to

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Speaker 1: get the players in there to build this program. And

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Speaker 1: if those guys aren't them, then then they're not them.

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Speaker 1: That's just how it is. Yeah, well, hop man, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Great stuff as usual. We're gonna bring you

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Speaker 1: back on monitoring this situation as it kind of unfolds. Man,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate everybody head over to Auburn Live. That's all

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Speaker 1: But another great debate that I want to have is

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Speaker 1: we always talk about which jobs better, this, that, and

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley and Brian Kelly. Ryan Kelly going to LSU,

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley going to USC. Who has a better chance

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Speaker 1: to win, bigger, faster. And it's a loaded question to me.

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Speaker 1: I look at the path that's the easiest, and I

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Speaker 1: am going under the assumption. And I know it's bad

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Speaker 1: to assume. My mom told me the same thing that

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Speaker 1: We know what assuming makes you. But I'm assuming we're

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Speaker 1: going to a twelve team playoff. I think that's going

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Speaker 1: to happen. I think you're gonna get the Power five

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Speaker 1: of five, the twelve plus one, the alternate plus one,

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Speaker 1: whatever they call it. I look at the path that

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley has to go through early to be able

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Speaker 1: to have success. Not that Brian Kelly can't flip LSU

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Speaker 1: really quick HGTV style, flip this house where the twin

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Speaker 1: guys that are on every show, but Lincoln Riley. When

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Speaker 1: you look when you land and you look at the landscape,

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Speaker 1: let's play that game. Let's play some sims. Lincoln Riley's

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Speaker 1: looking around the landscape at the PAC twelve. In college football,

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Speaker 1: the only time you're gonna have to see an SEC

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Speaker 1: team is in the playoff, National Championship whatever. PAC twelve.

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Speaker 1: I gotta worry about Oregon and Mario Cristobal blank check

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Speaker 1: from Phil Knight. We know what they're building over there. Utah,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Winningham always gonna have a tough team. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to earn it. UCLA if they find a quarterback

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Speaker 1: and the chips able to get that offense in rhythm,

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Speaker 1: kind of get that program going. I know he's not

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Speaker 1: the best recruiter in the world. Outside of that, who

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Speaker 1: else is there? Who else is there? Oregon State, cal

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Speaker 1: I like to devour hire at Washington. It's gonna take

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Speaker 1: him some time. So if i'm I'd make the same

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Speaker 1: argument for Clemson in the a SEC, I'm looking around saying, well,

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Speaker 1: we're looking still like one of the prettiest girls. It's

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Speaker 1: the dance and USC is out there. It's it can

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Speaker 1: be its own shining beacon on the hill out on

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Speaker 1: the West coast. They've lost a ton of players from

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Speaker 1: California to Alabama, to Georgia to the SEC to the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten. You keep a few of those guys home,

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Speaker 1: like we've already seen Lincoln Riley, who had California guys

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Speaker 1: going to Oklahoma. You can build it quicker there. The

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Speaker 1: competition's not as tough. And what is that city like?

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Speaker 1: All you need is a little bit of magic. It's

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Speaker 1: a front running town. USC's good, they'll show up. USC's bad.

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Speaker 1: It looks like what it looked like against BYU. It's

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Speaker 1: just process of elimination. It's just looking around and reading

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Speaker 1: the room. It's obviously an easier path. And it's not

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Speaker 1: like the committee looks down upon USC. College football knows

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Speaker 1: they need USC as a college football purists. I want

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Speaker 1: USC to be good. I want UCLA to be good.

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Speaker 1: I want Oregon to be good. I want the PAC

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Speaker 1: twelve to be good. But they're not. They're not, And

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Speaker 1: I think Lincoln has an easier path. Now, if you're

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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, you land on your planet. You know, tough

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Speaker 1: McConaughey style. Look around. I looked to my right, I

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Speaker 1: got Nick Saban Bama. Look at what old missus is doing.

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Speaker 1: Lane's still there. Brian Hartston at Auburn, who knows A

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Speaker 1: and M with Jimbo even though they just built him.

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Speaker 1: You know he's building it. They just got another five

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Speaker 1: star yesterday. It's like a damn astrology class at college

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Speaker 1: station right now. There's so many stars. So it's just

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Speaker 1: which is the harder fight. That's why I give Brian

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Speaker 1: Kelley more respect for taking the LSU job than I

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Speaker 1: did Lincoln Riley. But that doesn't mean I don't think

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Speaker 1: USC has a better path to the playoff out there.

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Speaker 1: And that's probably one of the biggest reasons why Lincoln

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Speaker 1: Riley made the decision that and like coach Sisky said,

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Speaker 1: he's got unlimited hours on the plane. Hell, he could

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Speaker 1: take the plane to McDonald's and with that traffic, you

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Speaker 1: probably have to in and out. Please, yeah, excuse me, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're right, huh, forgive me before I have sinned. But

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Speaker 1: it's just simple math to me. USC's got an easier

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Speaker 1: path and they'll be healthier when they get to the playoff.

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Speaker 1: Now does that mean when they get to the playoff

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Speaker 1: they won't be beating a smith areens by the first

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Speaker 1: SEC team they play no like Oklahoma. But in the

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Speaker 1: Pact twelve, getting there's good enough, Fellas, getting there's good enough.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to know how to boogie. You just

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Speaker 1: gotta go to the dance at LSU. You better go

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Speaker 1: to the dance and you better know how to break dance.

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Speaker 1: You better look like John Travolta, Are Patrick Swayze out there?

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Speaker 1: And it better happened quick. If it doesn't happen early

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Speaker 1: for Lincoln Riley, everybody USC's not going to freak out

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Speaker 1: if it doesn't happen early for Brian Kelly at LSU. Regardless,

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Speaker 1: LSU fans are going to freak out. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know how the answer this is not Lincoln Riley, who

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Speaker 1: has a better chance to get off to a faster start. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure, it's gotta be right. Yeah. I mean, let

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Speaker 1: me be specific here. I think Lincoln Riley can win

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Speaker 1: more quicker at AT win more quicker. I love that

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Speaker 1: one win more more quickly than Brian Kelly. But when

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Speaker 1: I say, I mean, I think that Lincoln Riley can

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Speaker 1: win his conference before Brian Kelly can win his division, right,

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Speaker 1: just because like you were saying so quickly, I think

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley can make a four team playoff out at

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Speaker 1: USC quicker than Brian Kelly can. I think Brian Kelly

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Speaker 1: can win a national championship quicker than Lincoln Riley can

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Speaker 1: at USC. I'm trying to be specific because Lincoln Riley

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Speaker 1: and Brian Kelly both had a similar problem at their

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Speaker 1: previous institutions. Right we are we are in We can

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Speaker 1: make the four team playoff at the institutions we're at,

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Speaker 1: which puts us ahead of ninety percent of the schools

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Speaker 1: in this country. But we're not at places where we

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Speaker 1: can go win the semifinal game, make the final, and

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Speaker 1: win the national championship. Lincoln Riley went to a program

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Speaker 1: that still has that same problem, Right Kelly. Brian Kelly

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Speaker 1: did not. He solved that problem, so I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like you said, Lincoln Riley can win quicker in terms

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Speaker 1: still he's still going to run into the same problem

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Speaker 1: that he had at Oklahoma. I believe could he go

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, could they get Will Fare on the sideline.

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Speaker 1: It's like you said, you know USC is doing good,

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Speaker 1: Will Farrell will be there, Matt Liner will be the

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Speaker 1: Reggie Bush. I'll be there when they're doing bad. See

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Speaker 1: at the Lakers game. Yeah right, yeah, LSU. I think

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Speaker 1: Kelly will win a national championship quicker, right, even if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't make a playoff before Lincoln Riley, and even

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't win his division faster than Lincoln Riley

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Speaker 1: can actually go win his conference. Yeah. Well, the thing

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Speaker 1: to me, it's almost like in baseball, you have the

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Speaker 1: one hitter that's really consistent, doesn't hit a lot of

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Speaker 1: home runs. If he hits a home run, you're you're shocked.

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Speaker 1: But the guy can hit doubles and triples and I'll

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Speaker 1: hit three twenty Brian. Kelly's kind of like Jorge Solaire.

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Speaker 1: I'm swinging as hard as I can, and eventually I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna run into one, and when I run into one,

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Speaker 1: it's not getting to the playoff. I'm getting to the

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Speaker 1: playoff and winning the whole thing. I'm hitting the ball

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Speaker 1: over the train tracks in Houston. Now, I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly won't have consistent success at LSU, but you

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Speaker 1: go not. Look. USC fans right now would love nine

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Speaker 1: and three, would love nine and three. LSU fans will

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Speaker 1: be like the last three coaches have won national championships

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Speaker 1: that I'll let see the standard set, fellas like the

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Speaker 1: standard set that's not changing. But I am with you.

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Speaker 1: I think Lincoln Riley can get there quicker, but I

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Speaker 1: think Brian Kelly has a better chance to win it quicker.

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Speaker 1: But that's the difference at USC right now. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're just getting there. Look, let's go out there

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Speaker 1: and have a party. We win great, but look at

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Speaker 1: those guys are huge. That's just the way I feel it,

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Speaker 1: right you know, I'm trying to find a logical argument.

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Speaker 1: On the other side, I think a couple little caveats

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Speaker 1: here to me when it comes to Lincoln Riley. I

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Speaker 1: think Lincoln Riley needs to do something good early, and

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Speaker 1: I think he needs to make a great defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: high unless he's bringing Christmas. That's one that's been kind

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Speaker 1: of his achilles heel is He's great at offense, but

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Speaker 1: his defense has never been good and never to have

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Speaker 1: a somewhat of a defense, right. And the thing another

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Speaker 1: thing about USC is if they're gonna do it, he

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Speaker 1: needs everything to get better around him. Facilities, just for

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Speaker 1: California is a what kind of state's pro state? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's the team hasn't been relevant since two thousand and four,

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Speaker 1: all right, two thousand and four. So at nine and

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Speaker 1: three at USC, they better be astounded with a nine

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Speaker 1: and three because right now you're not close. You're not close,

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Speaker 1: and you think Lincoln Ridse is going to automatically come

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Speaker 1: in here in the first year and scoop up all

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Speaker 1: these guys because the guy's coming from California are going

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Speaker 1: to the South and doing what winning championship, winning championships,

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Speaker 1: and people see that in the south's always only what

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Speaker 1: getting bigger and better and stronger, and Lincoln, you Grench

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Speaker 1: better show up on defense. Right so you have an

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Speaker 1: average couple of years, says Brian Kelly, can walk into

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Speaker 1: LSU and win the national championship the first year he's there.

842
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: I don't care that ground is that fruitful to win there?

843
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: It is, I mean you're not. It is. And Brian

844
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: Kelly can do what recruit where up front, right up front.

845
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: So I understand it. Will it be easier to win

846
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve just because the level of competition, Yeah,

847
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: that's fine. I understand that. But Brian Kelly was bringing

848
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 1: to LSU a structure on both sides of the football,

849
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: and Lincoln Riley needs to hit on defense. He wants

850
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: to do something the pack twell, well, I think Lincoln Riley,

851
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: like you said, excuse me, Brian Kelly is bringing organizational

852
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: skills CEO CEO. But he's also you know, very involved

853
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: schematically offensively. Brian Kelly is a great mind offensively. But

854
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 1: you know, we can't get hung up on the old

855
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 1: school way of thinking about flipping programs. With the transfer portal. Now,

856
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's free agency. You got the thirty two

857
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: intake rule. You can flip the script so quickly. And

858
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: there's a few places in the country, seven to ten

859
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: probably that have the ability with the cachet, with the

860
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: with the brand name, with the blue bloodness that people know.

861
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: I walk into a high school in Alabama, and I say,

862
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: who who are the USC Trojans? Those high school players

863
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: know who that is there. It's still fresh enough in

864
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: high school kids minds. They know that USC, Reggie Bush

865
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: and Matt Liners. They understand that. They don't remember, you know, O. J.

866
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: Simpson and all of them back then. They remember the

867
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll and how cool it was and Snoop Dogg

868
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: and them on the sidelines. So you're at the very

869
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: end of that rope. Can Lincoln Riley make that fresh

870
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: and sexy again at USC? You can? You can, and

871
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 1: not only can you, but you can be the shining

872
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: beacon on the West coast. Ucla is not doing it.

873
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: You talk, that's great. Chair state would be YU. You know,

874
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: you look at Oregon. That's great, but they're not in

875
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: love head over heels with football the way that people

876
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: are at LSU and stuff like that. USC could represent California.

877
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: Be the juggernaut in California, a big state that produces

878
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: a ton of talent, even though it's been exported a

879
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: lot to the South lately. You can flip that place quick,

880
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: go be the he could go be the West coast.

881
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: Clemson right could best be the best answer outside the

882
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: SEC that doesn't have to go toe to toe every

883
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: single week in the West and if he goes full

884
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: peat Carroll. I'm telling you I played against one of

885
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: those Peat Carroll teams in the Rose Bowl and they

886
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: ran us okay, with Brian Cushing and the boys Silver

887
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: Fox running up and down the side like coolestee, I'm like, man,

888
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: they're they're having fun. Yeah there you remember that on

889
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: the side. Pete Carroll's like watching dogs over there. They're

890
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: the West Coast Verse, They're the West Coast Clemson. They

891
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: could be a problem. And you don't go to USC

892
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: and be a disciplinarian. Sure, that doesn't it doesn't work

893
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: like that. That doesn't work. But you better have something

894
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: because you'll want to get Reggie bushed again. Yeah, well

895
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: that's true, and you better be able to tackle somebody.

896
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: That's the other thing us. It was kind of Nli

897
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: and before Island before I mean, you know, so, I

898
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: don't think anybody can really replicate what Pete Carroll did.

899
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: All right, So I got Lincoln, you got Lincoln, you

900
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: got Brian, give me Brian. Well, if we're talking about

901
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: when win more a comma quicker to say okay or

902
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: are we saying the Are we just just talking about

903
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: national championships? No, it's it's it's getting to me. It's

904
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: who can get there quicker. But that's why I like

905
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,959
Speaker 1: your point. If we're arguing who can get there quicker,

906
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: it's Lincoln Riley and my especially go to twelve. But

907
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: if we're arguing who can win it quicker, because getting

908
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: there and winning it are two ways to different keys.

909
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. Riley just left the room with the same

910
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: ceiling to go to another room with the exact same ceiling.

911
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: And Brian Kelly's looking up after leaving a team with

912
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: the ceiling he overachieved and now it's looking up with

913
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: no ceiling. Well, well, I think it's it's you know,

914
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: that's it's a great way an album, by the way,

915
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: no ceilings. But no, look, I think there's multiple ways

916
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: you can look at it. But I'm going with Lincoln Riley.

917
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 1: Uh And and again, it's just gonna be fascinating to see.

918
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: But you know what, I was gonna be fascinating to

919
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: see JBCC Championship game this weekend and we got Jordan

920
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: Battles starting safe from Alabama. I asked him, is George

921
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: a rival. I think he'll like what he says. All right,

922
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: a big week, coming off a big weekend, a big

923
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: win in the Iron Bowl. As usual, we are joined

924
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: by Alabama standout dB safety Nickel. Dude could play corner,

925
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: probably play receiver. You watch him dance after he scores.

926
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 1: You think he played the receiver in his life. Mister Jordan,

927
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: Battle Jordan, what's up? Man? What's up? Man? How are

928
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: you doing? Man? I'm doing good. Every time I bring

929
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: you on here, it's after another win. Man, y'all got

930
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: a cooking. Yeah, we're eating up right now. We eating

931
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: up big one this week. Just you know, going back

932
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: and watching the tape of the Iron Bowl, Jordan and

933
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 1: I watched it. I didn't have the wide and tight

934
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: like you, you know, the great stuff you guys got

935
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: with the calls up there and everything like that. But

936
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: going back and looking at it, you guys obviously a

937
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: hell of a performance on defense. You know, just talk

938
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: to me about that game a little bit, because it

939
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 1: was a fist fight from the start to the beginning,

940
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: but to the end. But that's what the Iron Bowl is. Yeah,

941
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: I think I think you're starting in practice. I think

942
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: we had a great, great practice week, a great preparation week. Um,

943
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: we knew coming into the game aim that it was

944
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough fight. We knew that Album was

945
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: gonna throw everything at us offensively, and we knew we

946
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: had to stop the run in order to win the game.

947
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: And that's what we did now, Jordan, And again, you know,

948
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: people get hurts part of the game, but as a

949
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: defensive guy and then you know, coach defense, so I

950
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 1: know how it goes when you see a guy that

951
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: may be a little beat up. You know, whether it's

952
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: Matt Carrold that's beat up, for Roman's going into a game.

953
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: You see t J. Finley turn his ankle like that,

954
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: and you know we can't run. I mean, like a shark,

955
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: you got to smell blood in the water, right, Well, yeah,

956
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: of course of course, but yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

957
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: We didn't had to change the game plan, you know,

958
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: just because you hurt. It was the same, just stuck

959
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: to the plan and kept attacking. And uh, as you

960
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: can see, we had I think we had a career

961
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: high and um Dago for laws that game too. Yeah

962
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, you guys able to stop the

963
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: run and stop tank and you know when you don't

964
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 1: have balance. You fall off the beam on offense most times.

965
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: How can you guys use the momentum from that iron ball? Jordan?

966
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: Because now you know, y'all have to put together a

967
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: hell of a defensive effort against Georgia as well. Uh,

968
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, another week, another big time battle. Yeah,

969
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: like last week, we have to have a great a

970
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: great mental focus this week, great practices, Uh, give all

971
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: our energy. Um So, so it translates to the game.

972
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: We know George is gonna be a tough opponent. They

973
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: all always a tough opponent. So we just have to,

974
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, basically take what we did last weekend and

975
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 1: build on it. Jordan, do you guys to see Georgia's

976
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: a rivalry game? Now? I mean you look back, I

977
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: mean it's turning into what is you know, the Battle

978
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: of the Titans. In the SEC, it was Bama LSU

979
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: for a while. Now it's you guys in Georgia. Coach Smart,

980
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,479
Speaker 1: coach Saban obviously coach Smart coming from the Saban tree.

981
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: Seems like that tree grows by the day. Do you

982
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 1: see Georgia's arrival? Oh yeah, most definite. Georgia is definitely

983
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: a rivalry game. The fans love to see Alabama versus Georgia,

984
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: and they know it's gonna be exciting every time we

985
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: pay against each other. Definitely, and you know Jordan as well.

986
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: You know, when you look at Georgia and you look

987
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 1: at the style that they play, it's kind of similar

988
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: to a lot y'all seen during the season, whether it's

989
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: A and M a little bit you know, running to

990
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: open the past. What are a few things you guys

991
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: have to do on defense to be successful this weekend? Um,

992
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: like last week, we have to stop the run. M.

993
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: Everybody have to get to the ball all eleven hats um.

994
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: You know, we know they have three three good tight

995
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: ends they use um the freshman number nineteen zero. Um,

996
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: I'm eighty six. And we know they have a great,

997
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: great diversity and backs they have a scat bag. They

998
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: are receiving backs. Yeah, backs, they can do it all.

999
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: They're very balanced. You know, they have a speed on

1000
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: the perimeter at the receiver positions. So we just have to,

1001
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: you know, be able to contain to run, you know,

1002
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: make them one dimensional like we like we should do

1003
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: to every team, you know, you know, just build on that. Yeah,

1004
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: make them dribble with their left as they say Jordan's

1005
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: last question. Man, I'm gonna help us win the water

1006
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 1: cooler here. You know what's funny. I'm sitting around about

1007
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: fifteen people, you know, watching the Iron Bowl and you

1008
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: rarely get penalties. Uh face mask got called for a

1009
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: face mask, and some people like, wow, how do you

1010
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: grab the face masks? How does that happen? Explain to

1011
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: people how fast you're going and you're not actually reaching

1012
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: for the face masks. It just happens to be there

1013
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: when you go to grab. Always laughing, people like, how

1014
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: can you do that? Why would you ever do that?

1015
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: Like you really don't understand how fast this is going. Yeah,

1016
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's just sometimes it just had well it does.

1017
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: It gets, it gets in the way your running backs

1018
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: trying to finish the running. He puts his head down

1019
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: and your hand, your hand is coming across, your armors

1020
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: coming across, and you you grab the try to wrap

1021
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: them up, but you end up grabbing the face mask

1022
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: of grabbing some some other part of his body's waist

1023
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: or it's his hip. So so I feel like it

1024
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: really comes from when the runner, you know, drops his

1025
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: head and you put your hand on the on the

1026
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: face mask by accident on the good and and you know, Jordan,

1027
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: they let the runners drop their heads. It's amazing they

1028
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: can drop their heads and whatever they want. Crown of

1029
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: the helmet, side of the helmet, doesn't matter. That's a

1030
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: story for another day. I'm not I'm not going to

1031
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: ask you to opine on that, but you know where

1032
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: I sat out and I got a good feeling. I

1033
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: know where you standing on it. But all right, I

1034
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: know I said this the last question. I got one

1035
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: more for you. What does this game mean to you?

1036
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: Saturday in Atlanta with a chance to not only win

1037
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: and get in the playoff, but be an SEC champion

1038
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: As a leader on this team, Yeah, this mean this

1039
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: game means a lot. This This will be the second time,

1040
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: the second year in the road. Now we made it

1041
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,479
Speaker 1: to the SEC Championship. And I remember how I felt

1042
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: last year and it was a great feeling. Um and

1043
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: seeing that Caffetti come down and coach Smiler with the

1044
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: with the trophy in his hand. Uh, I just feel like,

1045
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 1: I just like that's something everybody should be able to experience,

1046
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: and I feel like this team will want to experience that.

1047
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: So this is a big moment for us. All right, man,

1048
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: well you know you you're right next door to the show.

1049
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: You want to hop over here in the Hall of

1050
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: Fame and come to the studio. Man, you always got

1051
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: an open invite, you know that. Thank you, thank you?

1052
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, we'll see what Coach Saban says about that.

1053
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 1: I'm sure he wouldn't care. Now, I'm just kidding, all right, Jordan,

1054
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: appreciate your buddy. All right. We really appreciate Jordan Battle

1055
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: stopping by. Have loved to have him on all year.

1056
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: He's been fantastic. I thought he put it best. You know,

1057
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: these guys are competitive and everybody, I'm sure was gonna

1058
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: watch Jordan flying around. Funny about the face mask because

1059
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: it just happens so much faster. Everybody ram's like, why

1060
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: would he do that? Why would you like? He did

1061
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: it on purpose? Like he made see you know what,

1062
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: you broke a tackle. I'm grabbing your face mask because

1063
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm just I just want to. But but you've heard

1064
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: of great award shows, you know, you know, I say great.

1065
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 1: It kind of stuck now, But like the Grammys, what's u? Yeah,

1066
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: the CMA's the Dundees. Well, we want to give out

1067
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: our own SEC awards. Now we've the first two are

1068
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: pretty generic. I think you guys you know, will be Yeah,

1069
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: I agree, maybe you disagree, but you can see it.

1070
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: Then the next three or three that we came up with.

1071
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: First one pretty generic. SEC Coach of the Year, it's

1072
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: gotta be Kirby Smart. It's gotta be going undefeated. Not Look,

1073
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: you can make an argument, Shane by making up, but again,

1074
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: the man went undefeated. They haven't won a national championship

1075
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: since nineteen eighty and it's looking like it's the year

1076
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: and you did it with a backup quarterback, a lot

1077
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: of your offensive players injured throughout, and you're still having

1078
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: to climb that mountain climb Everest, like we talked about.

1079
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: So as you see Coach of the Year to me

1080
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: as Kirby Smart. It's just the truth. Sam Pittman would

1081
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: be a great candidate if we had, you know, a

1082
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: sub Coach of the Year You're not undefeated award, it'd

1083
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: be Sam Pittman at Arkansas. But he may win another award.

1084
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: He might find he may find his way in there.

1085
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: All right, Well, first off, who would you pick Cone?

1086
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: Because I made these picks, would you go with Kirby Smart. Man,

1087
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: he's about to do something for this state and for

1088
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: this fan base. I'm telling you I grew up around him. Man,

1089
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: he's about to do something for them. I really think

1090
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: something special. Forty years, man, forty years, I mean he's

1091
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: been on fire. I think this state guy would have

1092
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 1: needed when the Braves wanted. Gimme Shane Biemer that good

1093
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: six and six and the SEC your first year with

1094
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: the GA at quarterback. James Franklin best coaching job ever. No,

1095
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. James Franklin winning two games. That was

1096
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: the j SEC coach of the Year. Kirby Smart, all right,

1097
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: that takes this SEC player of the year, same team,

1098
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis, give him the heisman. I don't know why

1099
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: we don't do it. I don't I don't understand it.

1100
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: The guy is the most dominant player. To me, you

1101
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: have to game plan everything around him and it still

1102
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: doesn't help. The man can literally take away the run

1103
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: game by himself, and he can pass rush. He's now

1104
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, Terrence Cody was great because downstaid hut rah

1105
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: rah rah rah. Going forward, he can push you back.

1106
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis is like quick, can change direction, unbelievably fast,

1107
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: and he's huge, and he's gonna be an unbelievable player

1108
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Unbelievable. When they're gonna put him, they

1109
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: may put him into three. It's just some NFL DC.

1110
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like a kid in the candy store.

1111
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: So give me Jordan Davis. What say you? That's a

1112
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: good pick. You know, I'll go Will Anderson Okaya, or

1113
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: maybe maybe we say Jordan Anderson. W Jordan. That's a

1114
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: good way to put it. Blame What about you? Is it?

1115
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: Shane Biemer? I wish no, I'd go Jordan Davis. What

1116
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: he does for that defensive line for Georgia. I mean

1117
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: he literally blocks up every gap. He literally almost blocks

1118
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: up every gap for that team. That's why the Kobe

1119
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: Deane he's just running around having the time of his life,

1120
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: making all the time. Nobody's had more fun than Kobe Dean.

1121
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: I just think Jordan Davis is, out of those two,

1122
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: the hardest person to replace. Yeah, I just think he is. No.

1123
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: I agree, and again it's that's the Inuitia. Will has

1124
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: been unbelievable pass rushing, he's versatile, he can drop. But

1125
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: I mean I think Jordan Davis could drop I think

1126
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis could drop him play a low hoole zone

1127
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: and actually not be too bad. I watched him run

1128
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: down Tyler Johnson, the UAB quarterback, and Tyler's not Usain Bolt,

1129
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: but he's not slow. I thought it was Tyler in

1130
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: high school. He's not slow. No, not text to me

1131
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 1: actually that game and says that's still haunts his nightmare.

1132
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: That's the other boogeyman checks under his bed for Jordan Davis.

1133
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: All right, are on the best Track Award? This was

1134
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,240
Speaker 1: so hard to pick between A and M and Arkansas,

1135
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: but I feel like the rebuild job at Arkansas was

1136
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: so much harder than A and M. I think A

1137
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: m's on a great track with Jimbo Fisher. Shout out

1138
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: our buddies at Texas, Billy Lucie, but I gotta go

1139
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: Sam Pittman hardest. Look, Arkansas probably had the hardest schedule

1140
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: in the country. You say Arkansas, you can say Auburn

1141
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: and you get eight wins seven eight wins year two.

1142
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: What do they get to combine eight wins like the

1143
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: four years before Chad Morriston couldn't win an inter squad game.

1144
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: But the way they're recruiting. Arkansas is back, and I

1145
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: like Texas back. I'm telling you, Arkansas is back, and

1146
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: they're a problem, and they're only gonna get better and

1147
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: better and better because they believe in Sam Pittman. When

1148
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: Sam Pittman believes in them, and he knows who they are,

1149
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: and they know who he is, and that's all you need.

1150
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: That's all you need. If I'm gonna ask you to

1151
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: go run into another full grown adult for sixty minutes,

1152
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: I better trust you, and I better love you. And

1153
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: they trust them, and they love them, and he loves

1154
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: them back. Maybe the best fit all of college football. Honestly,

1155
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: in my opinion, they're on a great track here in Arkansas. Fan,

1156
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: I mean, y'all a cook him with grease right now, Ella,

1157
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: cook him with grease. I love Sam Pittman, I love Arkansas,

1158
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: but I'm going Jimbo Fisher. I'm going amm Look, I

1159
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: think they've underperformed this season. Sam Pittman and Arkansas overperformed

1160
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: this season, But Jimbo is going to finish with one

1161
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: of the top recruiting classes in the country, and I

1162
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: think they are gonna use that win over Alabama and

1163
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: fuel them for the next two, three, four seasons. Give

1164
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: me Jimbo Fisher. I think he's going to be a

1165
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: problem here pretty soon, my boys. Shane Biemer, Yeah, I mean,

1166
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: I mean six and it looks there's six and six

1167
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: on the right track. And he's also doing what this

1168
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: guy is recruiting. He is recruited after they might have

1169
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: a top fifteen class. Like, come on, guys, he's bring

1170
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: maybe he's bringing it back, So I come on into

1171
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: this barrier. Days when they're winning, when they're beating who

1172
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: Bama they can and Clemson they can do that. They

1173
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: if you can go six and six with a jag quarterback,

1174
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see what you do when your players getting here. Yeah,

1175
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: I want to see what he went shade when they

1176
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: have you know guys that then weren't getting coffee for

1177
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: the coaches a week before the game, Like, hey, can

1178
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: you send zeb to my office for a minute? But no,

1179
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: I look, I think there's there's good arguments on all

1180
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: sides of that. All right, the Jackie Moon Awards Coach

1181
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: slash Player Award, there's only one guy, sab Nolan r

1182
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: s He's done around campus. Zultan defied all odds, Walk

1183
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: defied all odds to be the corpate and did not

1184
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: do a bad job. Did not do a bad He

1185
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: was better than a lot of quarterbacks around the country.

1186
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: But they asked him to go from ga to quarterback.

1187
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: You better hit that peloton pretty quick. Fam. But again,

1188
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: and something we've never seen. You know, we remember when

1189
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: Bobby Bouchet went to SCLSU and then Michigan tried to

1190
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: do the tower. Boy, how that works when he went

1191
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: across the middle, didn't work, destroyed. But the Jackie Moon

1192
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: Coach Player Award, zeb Nolan, congratulations, be checking the trophy.

1193
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: The trophy look should be just like when those Gold people.

1194
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: He's got like a coaching binder here and like Jackie

1195
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: Moon bending down and shooting a free throw granny style. Yeah,

1196
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: he's in the throwing motion but with a clipboard. Yes

1197
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: he's in the throwing motion with a helmet on, but

1198
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: with a clipboard. He's calling the play as he's running

1199
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: the play. Yes, the Jackie Moon Award, first ever and

1200
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: that moves us to our last award. Also unanimous, Also

1201
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: unbelievably unanimous, The Ugly Duckling Award. Congrats Vanderbilt, you're the

1202
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: only non Bowl eligible SEC team don't. I just want

1203
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: to go somewhere else, though. I feel like y'all to

1204
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: have such a great time somewhere else, you won't be

1205
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: singing that tune. From baseball season, golf season. They bring

1206
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: a lot to the table, academic standards, holding up there,

1207
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: You're you're you're you're great, You're great at canoe like, listen,

1208
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: it's great. Look, they're great for baseball, but the whole

1209
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: let s see's good in baseball. If the Vandy looked days,

1210
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: you would fall up to work them in baseball, and

1211
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: they haven't exactly been lightening up in basketball. I remember

1212
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: when Vandy had Kevin Stallings and it was a nightmare

1213
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: going there. They had like Luke Cornett who was eight

1214
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: foot four shooting threes. You really want to let Stanford

1215
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: win the chess championship every single year. Listen, they can

1216
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: have it. Okay, they can have it. It's look, it's

1217
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: been it's time. It's time for you guys to go.

1218
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: You're maybe you're getting paid way too much money to

1219
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: not do anything. You're making all of us look. Yeah,

1220
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: it's like I said, they're the person that is part

1221
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: of your family that nobody wants to in our the

1222
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: family gets there and like your family game is like

1223
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: pictionary or whatever, and like nobody wants to pick him

1224
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: because he's just terrible at it. That's what Vandy is.

1225
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: But you have to invite him because they're part of

1226
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: the family. Yeah, Vandage is that guy who just screams

1227
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: out all the little accomplishments they do at dinner and Thanksgiving. Yeah,

1228
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you know, he got in the dog.

1229
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: He's Lloyd's I mean, law school will be like, well,

1230
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: you know, Tim, just he's on JV track. Yeah, yeah,

1231
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: just look, it's time. It's time. I'd rather have Memphis

1232
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 1: and all the things with everything that's changing. When there

1233
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: were teams leaving their conference, right, y'all go, just go, guys.

1234
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: Ryan Seymour is a good friend of mine. There. Vanderbilt

1235
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: has been some great times, great times, but you know what,

1236
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: sometimes the great times have to end, right, and you

1237
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: guys really are just you're the ugly duckling. And then

1238
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: people will say people will say, oh, well, the ugly

1239
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: duckling grew to be a beautiful duck. Well in the

1240
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: ac you can be a decent looking duck. Hello. Hell,

1241
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: you go to the MAC you might look like Gordon Bombay.

1242
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:51,439
Speaker 1: You want to talk about it easier way to the playoffs. Yeah, yeah,

1243
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: but I would like to formally. I would like to

1244
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: formally put forth a notion if it can be heard.

1245
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: There's no objections Underbilt too. Quietly get the hell out

1246
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: of the SEC at least in football. You know what,

1247
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: take football out there. That happens. We see that around

1248
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: the Syracuse in nine different conferences Syracuse like the Siamese

1249
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: twin of NC Double A. I don't want to hear

1250
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: from Jake when Stanford wins six chess championships in a

1251
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: rows like, man, we gotta put a stop. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: Vanny just hired Bobby Fisher. They were searching for him.

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Speaker 1: Turns out they found him. So the Ugly Duckling Award

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Speaker 1: goes to Vanderbilt. Uh again, sorry, guys, I mean, how

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Speaker 1: do you lose the East Tennessee State and then go

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Speaker 1: beat Colorado State. I don't get it. I don't want

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Speaker 1: good because I bet Colorado States. That's exactly the third exactly,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly right. You know, that's how to do I

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Speaker 1: how to wait and just take your third leg of

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Speaker 1: parlais and put all the money on the opposite. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's the trick. Show me a pie chart because I

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Speaker 1: want to see the third leg that never hit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let me see the pie chart. All right. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: we're at a function right now. We're actually breaking the

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Speaker 1: spacetime continuum because we did this yesterday. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how we're doing that. Like Frank Caliendo with John Gruden,

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