Speaker 1: I just got an email asking if I wanted to
Speaker 1: euthanize the coyotes in my backyard or try to relocate them.
Speaker 1: And if you don't know what I'm talking about, we
Speaker 1: have two dogs at the house and Stanley is a bulldog.
Speaker 1: He's eight now, which is crazy because those bulldogs, man,
Speaker 1: they are broken. So we're hoping for a long, long
Speaker 1: life from him. Had a pretty successful eight years. And
Speaker 1: then we have a dog that's half husky half hound,
Speaker 1: and she loves to hunt animals that's on our property
Speaker 1: and our property we have a normal backyard, but then
Speaker 1: we have some makers of just woods and she tends
Speaker 1: to just run out in the woods all the time
Speaker 1: and occasionally she comes back with a rabbit or squirrel,
Speaker 1: definitely the hound part of her. And so we were
Speaker 1: out in the backyard a week or so ago and
Speaker 1: I heard her go a little un characteristic of her
Speaker 1: back in the woods. Thought maybe a snake a bitter.
Speaker 1: It turns out it was a coyote that bitter, and
Speaker 1: so she got in a fight, got attacked by a coyote,
Speaker 1: and our properties fenced in, but we didn't know exactly
Speaker 1: what bitter for a while. And then she couldn't use
Speaker 1: her left back leg and she's dragging it through the house.
Speaker 1: So luckily I have a friend that's a vet doctor, Josie,
Speaker 1: and I call her and we get Ella in. She's
Speaker 1: gonna be fine now. Now she's walking around pretty normal.
Speaker 1: But we can't let the dogs go out in the
Speaker 1: backyard now because it's connected to the woods. And so
Speaker 1: the email I just got was we're going to hire
Speaker 1: some trappers to come out and would I be okay
Speaker 1: with them euthanizing the coyotes or relocated, And again it's
Speaker 1: a mom and at least three babies. I would rather
Speaker 1: them relocate. Here's the problem of the six people that
Speaker 1: we have that will come and get the coyotes off
Speaker 1: the property, because we have to have them off the
Speaker 1: property because our dogs live there. Only one of the
Speaker 1: six will come out and actually I don't know, cuddle them,
Speaker 1: kiss them, take them and release them to the wild.
Speaker 1: The other five just kill them, and they're dirty animals,
Speaker 1: but they're still animals. And so to get the person
Speaker 1: that will just relocate them, it is going to take
Speaker 1: almost two weeks longer than somebody who will just come
Speaker 1: out trap them and kill them. So I'm torn. I'm
Speaker 1: not torn. You know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say relocate them. And that's annoying because that's our yard.
Speaker 1: Those coyotes, they don't know the difference. They're just trying
Speaker 1: to survive. And I'm not here as a coyote apologist. Heck,
Speaker 1: one just attack my dog, and they are dirty and
Speaker 1: they probably have rabies. Luckily, Yeller Hudder shots all up
Speaker 1: to date, and we went and got her a booster
Speaker 1: immediately from doctor Josie. But I'm just gonna have to
Speaker 1: go pay more money for the youth and ized group.
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, wait two extra weeks,
Speaker 1: and we got to make sure we get the parent
Speaker 1: and at least all three of the babies. Like, if
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this, let's do it right. Heck, let's
Speaker 1: get him out for adoption. Who wants to adopt these coyotes.
Speaker 1: Let's just do it. Let's just go all in. If
Speaker 1: you're watching this right now, you're watching this episode of
Speaker 1: In the Weeds, you want to adopt four coyotes? Boy
Speaker 1: do I got a family fruit? They are awesome pets.
Speaker 1: Clean anyway, I was dealing with that right before we
Speaker 1: came on here, Welcome to the show called in the Weeds,
Speaker 1: where I just talk about things that are happening that
Speaker 1: I thought no one would care about, mostly in my
Speaker 1: career in my life. So here we go with probably
Speaker 1: episode eight or so. I'll say this and this is
Speaker 1: very in the weeds. I didn't think people would much
Speaker 1: care for this, and it kind of popped off on
Speaker 1: YouTube and I've had people inside the industry that I
Speaker 1: work in go, man, I really like that show. To
Speaker 1: me weird because I don't talk about anything that I
Speaker 1: would talk about on the radio show because it's very
Speaker 1: much what they would call inside. But we've now done
Speaker 1: enough of these episodes in podcast form audio only. It's
Speaker 1: the same thing as video, but and they perform better
Speaker 1: than some of the bigger interviews that I do, which
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe people have a decent amount of
Speaker 1: interest in some of the stuff that I'm talking about
Speaker 1: that I thought was too inside the industry or my
Speaker 1: life that no one really care about. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: do more of these because I'm surprised that they do
Speaker 1: better than some of the episodes where we have stars
Speaker 1: on and I interviewed them. So here we are in
Speaker 1: the Weeds, don't know what episode it is. Let's just
Speaker 1: call it episode eight for right now. I do want
Speaker 1: to talk about a time I met a lady in
Speaker 1: the lobby at a television station. And I want to
Speaker 1: build this off of something that Amy was saying on
Speaker 1: the radio show. She was talking about just say hi
Speaker 1: to people. You never know where that could take you
Speaker 1: in life. And she was telling the story of her
Speaker 1: meeting me in at Culver's in Austin, Texas. And the
Speaker 1: brief version of that story is I was getting my
Speaker 1: tires rotated. I don't know, it's probably two thousand and
Speaker 1: five if I'm guessing, and I'm in Culvers and I
Speaker 1: don't know Amy, but she comes up to me and says, hey,
Speaker 1: I know your show. And then her and her friend
Speaker 1: whose parents owned that Culvers, they gave me like some
Speaker 1: ice cream coupons. Now, I was new in Austin. The
Speaker 1: show was not a success yet, so it wasn't like
Speaker 1: I had tons of fans. But she knew the show
Speaker 1: and so met her there, met her again, and she
Speaker 1: ended up being a co host on the show. Came
Speaker 1: on as a producer at first, and then she became
Speaker 1: a co host, and it was all because she said
Speaker 1: hi to me at Culver's and I thought she was
Speaker 1: super interesting, super funny, and she said, you never know
Speaker 1: what will happen in life if you just say hi
Speaker 1: to someone, which leads me to this same type of thing,
Speaker 1: probably six or so years ago. I'm in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: It's not my favorite place. I don't have a good
Speaker 1: relationship with it because if I'm out there, I'm only working,
Speaker 1: and if I'm only working, I'm doing the radio show
Speaker 1: early in the morning, and then I'm doing whatever else
Speaker 1: job that I'm out there to do, and I'm sitting
Speaker 1: in traffic all the time, and I'm in a hotel.
Speaker 1: I'm car sick. Like. My relationship with LA is not
Speaker 1: great because of that, because I never just have time
Speaker 1: to hang out and experience the beach. Although not a
Speaker 1: big beach fan either. So I'm in LA and I
Speaker 1: am at Disney Studios different than Disney Land. I'm at
Speaker 1: Disney Studios, and Disney owns obviously Disney Channel, it owns ABC,
Speaker 1: it owns Hulu, you know all those properties. And I
Speaker 1: had gone up and I had auditioned for a show
Speaker 1: that ABC was doing, a daytime talk show on day
Speaker 1: one when they had all the scrubs in. I was
Speaker 1: a scrub to them. They didn't really know me, but
Speaker 1: they knew had a big radio show, and they brought
Speaker 1: me in and I made it through day one and
Speaker 1: got to day two smash Cut. I ended up making
Speaker 1: that daytime talk show as a host. It was me
Speaker 1: and Dion Sanders, and the pilot was funded. We shot
Speaker 1: a pilot. We were there working together for like six weeks.
Speaker 1: It was an ABC owned and operated the pilot. We
Speaker 1: did it. It was good, but it did not get
Speaker 1: picked up. For whatever reason, it did not get picked up.
Speaker 1: But I'd made some connections there, or at least people
Speaker 1: that remembered me, and so I got invited to come
Speaker 1: up and talk with somebody who was a vice president
Speaker 1: at ABC for a bunch of nonscripted shows. And so
Speaker 1: I just flew over and went up and it was
Speaker 1: just a general meeting and I'm in the lobby and
Speaker 1: there's a British woman that I'm not sitting right next
Speaker 1: to her because I'd be awkward because it was a
Speaker 1: pretty open lobby, but she was kind of Caddy corner
Speaker 1: and we were just sitting there. And the thing about
Speaker 1: La that I've learned is nothing is on time there
Speaker 1: because everybody's late to everything, and mostly it's because the
Speaker 1: traffic is terrible. And so we're both sitting in there
Speaker 1: and say, hey, how's it going, and she says it's
Speaker 1: play good. And we start talking back and forth a
Speaker 1: little bit. And I've often compared it to prison, where
Speaker 1: you don't really say why you're there. I mean, we
Speaker 1: didn't what are you in for? Like what you're meeting about.
Speaker 1: We're just two people talking in the lobby. And so
Speaker 1: we talked for about fifteen minutes or so, and they
Speaker 1: called her over the top and she went to her
Speaker 1: meeting and I waited about fifteen more minutes. Finally I
Speaker 1: was the last one in the room they called me.
Speaker 1: But I had a really great conversation with her, and
Speaker 1: we talked about where we're from, if she had kids.
Speaker 1: I didn't just personal life stuff. I didn't get anything
Speaker 1: too professional. And so I'm going into this guy who's
Speaker 1: a massive executive at Disney ABC and I walk in
Speaker 1: the room and she's in there and I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I just met you, and she was like yeah. Turns
Speaker 1: out she was the executive producer of American Idol and
Speaker 1: so what it happened was the guy I was meeting with,
Speaker 1: whose name was Rob Mills. He is still there, he
Speaker 1: still runs it. Before that meeting with me, he was
Speaker 1: meeting with her about something else and they had mentioned
Speaker 1: that I was next. He was like, oh, I just
Speaker 1: met him, and he was like, oh, let's invite him
Speaker 1: in before you leave, and so I go, and because
Speaker 1: we had already had a conversation, we kind of knew
Speaker 1: each other. So it's all three of us in a
Speaker 1: room and I'm just going for like a general meeting
Speaker 1: to meet the guy, and she's there, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden it turns into, hey, why don't you come
Speaker 1: on one episode of American Idol and you can help
Speaker 1: the contestants with what songs to pick, how to be
Speaker 1: interviewed stage presence. I was like, great, one episode, that
Speaker 1: was all I was supposed to do. Well that turned
Speaker 1: into four years on that show, and I'm convinced had
Speaker 1: I not said hi to her in that lobby and
Speaker 1: had that conversation with her in that lobby, none of
Speaker 1: that would have happened. We were just there, two human
Speaker 1: beings connecting over well waiting and by the time I
Speaker 1: ran into her again, she was able to make a
Speaker 1: decision to give me an opportunity. That's wild. So when
Speaker 1: Amy was telling that story about how just say hi
Speaker 1: to somebody, was like, man, this felt so familiar. It's
Speaker 1: because of that that happened with me. Just say hi
Speaker 1: to somebody, You never know. It's not even about being opportunistic.
Speaker 1: You maybe actually the one that can do something for
Speaker 1: somebody else once you find out what their needs once
Speaker 1: desires are. That's not sexual, although it can be. I
Speaker 1: will not judge you. Something that I've been doing on
Speaker 1: the show over the past probably ten weeks now, and
Speaker 1: something I'm considering not doing anymore, is something called Giving Tuesday.
Speaker 1: I'm still rolling with it because I like doing it
Speaker 1: and I like to kind of set the stage here
Speaker 1: with Giving Tuesday. It all started because anytime I would
Speaker 1: go into my dms on Instagram, it and I it
Speaker 1: was toxic, but I felt toxic. It was toxic, and
Speaker 1: it was people just saying bad things to me or
Speaker 1: about me, or about things that I was doing. So
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't go to my dms at all. But
Speaker 1: then I felt like I was really missing opportunities to
Speaker 1: talk with people. See real life feedback about what people
Speaker 1: liked or didn't like. But because it was so negative
Speaker 1: all the time, I thought, I'm just going to stay
Speaker 1: out of there. But I needed a way to not
Speaker 1: associate that with such awfulness. And so I was in
Speaker 1: therapy and I was just talking about generally how most
Speaker 1: of the feedback that comes to me negative ninety five
Speaker 1: percent of it, And what I have to do is
Speaker 1: separate in my head the reality of it's not ninety
Speaker 1: five percent of people hate me that are out there.
Speaker 1: It's that ninety five percent of anything anybody's writing on
Speaker 1: the Internet about something is just negative and it can
Speaker 1: wear on you. It wears on me at times, which
Speaker 1: is why I started not going into the comments or
Speaker 1: the dms unless it was Tuesdays, and that's where Giving
Speaker 1: Tuesday comes from. So the way for me to feel
Speaker 1: better about it was I wanted to have a good
Speaker 1: relationship with my dms, and so I said, hey, I
Speaker 1: want to help people out. So if you just DM
Speaker 1: me and you need some help, I got you. And
Speaker 1: so it happened week one and I helped out a
Speaker 1: few people, and I didn't give specifics about them, their
Speaker 1: name or anything. Although there were a couple of schools
Speaker 1: that I helped. I thought it was fun. Like one
Speaker 1: of them was a barbecue team. We helped send them
Speaker 1: to nationals. There was an archery team from a school
Speaker 1: from near my hometown, Magnico of Arkansas. And then I
Speaker 1: could help people out with light bills and help the
Speaker 1: girl get some leg braces. Also, I'm not even sure
Speaker 1: that the money's really going there, right, I don't follow up,
Speaker 1: but I don't feel like I need that, And I
Speaker 1: just wanted to create a positive place for me to
Speaker 1: give back. But it's very selfish because I wanted to
Speaker 1: create a positive place for me to go and exist
Speaker 1: and not feel terrible. So I don't do it because
Speaker 1: I'm going look at me. I do it because I
Speaker 1: selfishly don't want to feel bad when I go onto
Speaker 1: my DMS, and I have the resources to help people.
Speaker 1: So I'm doing this given Tuesday, and it kind of
Speaker 1: turned into a bit where I would read them not
Speaker 1: super specific, and then Lunchbox on my radio show would
Speaker 1: determine if they were worthy of the money that I
Speaker 1: was giving them, and almost none of them were, according
Speaker 1: to him. And then I had to make some rules
Speaker 1: about this because people were now getting mad at me
Speaker 1: for not choosing them. First of all, I don't see
Speaker 1: all of them. There's no way for me to see
Speaker 1: all of them. What I will do is I will
Speaker 1: go into my DMS and flick my thumb and hit
Speaker 1: it and open it, and if I read it and
Speaker 1: film moved by it, I help them. Now, there were
Speaker 1: certain things too, to make it easy. I would never
Speaker 1: chase them. So if they didn't put their VENMO or
Speaker 1: their cash app, because the only two things that I have,
Speaker 1: I could not just scroll on. But if they did,
Speaker 1: I would just go over and boom, one hundred bucks,
Speaker 1: four hundred bucks. I think the most I ever did
Speaker 1: was maybe six hundred dollars on one. But another rule
Speaker 1: that I had was I'm not going to follow up.
Speaker 1: And if I happened to get scammed, that's okay, because
Speaker 1: I know for sure I was scammed by one person,
Speaker 1: that's okay. But I'm not going to do any more
Speaker 1: than what the highest already did, because if I do
Speaker 1: thousands of dollars and I get scammed, I'll be pissed
Speaker 1: or I'll be hurt. But if I do ten and
Speaker 1: I get scammed by one person for three hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: I don't mind that if I get to help the
Speaker 1: other nine. So it's kind of the mental gymnastics I
Speaker 1: play to do that. But now it's getting to the
Speaker 1: point now where if I go into my DMS and
Speaker 1: I flick my thumb and I stop on one and
Speaker 1: I go into it, there's three messages talking about how
Speaker 1: I haven't picked them and I'm such a loser and
Speaker 1: they can't believe I haven't picked them. I'm going, all right,
Speaker 1: we're back at square one. Back at square one on
Speaker 1: Giving Tuesday. So I enjoy giving. For me generally, anytime
Speaker 1: I feel lost, there's really nothing I can go and
Speaker 1: buy or an experience that I can have that helps
Speaker 1: me not feel lost. What I can do when I
Speaker 1: feel lost that helps me kind of regain my bearings
Speaker 1: is to serve others because it is a great reminder
Speaker 1: to me of, hey, what I think is the problem
Speaker 1: some people would love to have. So that's really where
Speaker 1: Giving Tuesday was rooted in. I will continue to do it.
Speaker 1: I've had a couple people reach out to do stories
Speaker 1: on it, and that feels like I'm you and I
Speaker 1: think I have that relationship with it as well, like
Speaker 1: it's weird to even talk about on the show because
Speaker 1: I'm going, all right, it's another Giving Tuesday. Let's read
Speaker 1: through some of these. Now. Where I do find that
Speaker 1: the content is good and it is compelling is that
Speaker 1: whenever I'm talking about it and Amy and Lunchbox are
Speaker 1: debating if the money went to a good place or
Speaker 1: if I'm being scammed or if that's a dumb reason
Speaker 1: like that makes the bit funny, But that really isn't
Speaker 1: That really wasn't the idea. The idea was always going
Speaker 1: to talk about it so people would understand they could
Speaker 1: hit me up in my DMS and do it. But now, honestly,
Speaker 1: that's kind of getting toxic too. So that's where I am.
Speaker 1: I keep track of everything, and I've said no to
Speaker 1: the stories about it because that really feels like I'm
Speaker 1: using it for something other than what it is. So yeah,
Speaker 1: of this, I'm still rolling. I will only accept them
Speaker 1: in my Instagram though, because I don't want every media
Speaker 1: platform that I have for me to go into the
Speaker 1: messages and that's all it is. So it's mister Bobby
Speaker 1: Bones on Instagram. If you guys want to hop in,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do any more than like six hundred bucks.
Speaker 1: I'm probably down, I say down, I'm not down because
Speaker 1: I have it. I should say I've probably given or
Speaker 1: used to help probably around twenty thousand dollars right now.
Speaker 1: You know what, That's awesome and that's why I do it.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm gonna do it much longer,
Speaker 1: but I have a I'm trying to have a good
Speaker 1: relationship with social media because I have to be on
Speaker 1: it all the time. But that's where we are with
Speaker 1: Giving Tuesday as of right now. Only go to Instagram
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do that, hank Ty, the Bobby Cast
Speaker 1: will be right back.
Speaker 2: And we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1: I did go and watch The Odyssey, which was really great.
Speaker 1: I didn't want it to be great. I wanted to
Speaker 1: come over here and go, man, that was so overhyped,
Speaker 1: because I loved talking about how things were overhyped. Is
Speaker 1: really great. And there's a story of the Trojan Horse,
Speaker 1: which I never read The Odyssey in high school. And
Speaker 1: you may have heard me talking on the show about
Speaker 1: how I can't believe that schools made kids read books.
Speaker 1: They never made me read a book. Our school wasn't
Speaker 1: the greatest place for higher learning. We were never told
Speaker 1: we had to read a single book. And while I
Speaker 1: was watching the movie, my wife was like, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is gonna happen, or has this happened yet, because she
Speaker 1: went to the bathroom and I go, did you look
Speaker 1: this up online or read spoiler? She goes, no, I
Speaker 1: read the freaking Odissey And so I said, they made
Speaker 1: you read that? Shecause, yeah, translated version, that's where all
Speaker 1: that came from. So never had to read a single
Speaker 1: book in high school. I did read it was a
Speaker 1: pretty good reader, but I didn't become someone who read
Speaker 1: for enjoyment until probably my twenties, and I like to
Speaker 1: read now. But I'm watching the Odyssey and there's the
Speaker 1: story of the Trojan Horse and they get inside This
Speaker 1: is not a spoiler, don't hit me with spoiler, but
Speaker 1: they get inside the horse because it's a gift, and
Speaker 1: they take the horse inside the walls, which they've been
Speaker 1: waiting for. The open the walls, they can have the war.
Speaker 1: But how they get in is that Trojan horse. And
Speaker 1: then once the horse is inside, they all come out
Speaker 1: of the horse and they attack and they win the war.
Speaker 1: And that's what's called the Trojan Horse. People that I
Speaker 1: have a friend want be careful about this. I have
Speaker 1: a friend that was a private investigator for a while,
Speaker 1: and he would trojan horse emails like to get into
Speaker 1: someone's system. And so a trojan horse can be used
Speaker 1: in context in many different ways. So I was thinking
Speaker 1: about the trojan horse, and honestly, I was thinking, how
Speaker 1: can I trojan horse? And folks like, how can I
Speaker 1: get in? I have an epic trojan horse story of
Speaker 1: my own already. I was twenty two years old in
Speaker 1: Little Rock, Arkansas, and another radio station have put stickers
Speaker 1: on my van. My radio station van like to put
Speaker 1: their stickers on my van, and I tend to get
Speaker 1: triggered and confrontational and competitive just like that. It is
Speaker 1: not one of my best qualities. But I was very
Speaker 1: upset about this, and so I thought, how can I
Speaker 1: up them at what they just did to us, which
Speaker 1: what they did to us was embarrass us by putting
Speaker 1: their radio station on our van. And so there was
Speaker 1: a guy that was kind of my sidekick at the time,
Speaker 1: who was my nighttime show part time sidekick named Gilligan.
Speaker 1: I named Gilligan because he just kind of looked like
Speaker 1: the guy from the TV show. But this Gilligain had
Speaker 1: a face like Bob Denver who played Gilligan, but big
Speaker 1: muscles and tattoos, so he was like motorcycle biker Gilligan.
Speaker 1: He was my age, so he was young. And I
Speaker 1: remember after they stick to the van, Galligan was up
Speaker 1: at the studio on the rock and I said, we're
Speaker 1: going in. And I knew that they had just turned
Speaker 1: a radio station in their building, because that company had
Speaker 1: I believe five radio stations. They had just turned one
Speaker 1: of them country. So we went back into the prize
Speaker 1: closet where they kept all kinds of stuff, as a
Speaker 1: closet is more like a room, and I remember they
Speaker 1: had a cowboy hat and like one of those Garth
Speaker 1: Brooks type shirts, and it was a little tight on Gilligan,
Speaker 1: but we got it on him. We put the cowboy
Speaker 1: hat on him, and I said, you go over to
Speaker 1: that radio station. You knock on the door, and this
Speaker 1: is eight forty five pm at night, and you say
Speaker 1: you work for the new country station. They're gonna believe you.
Speaker 1: You got a cowboy hat on and a cowboy shirt
Speaker 1: and say you lost your key, but you're new there.
Speaker 1: Well they just let you in. And so that's exactly
Speaker 1: what he did, and so I drove him over. He knocked.
Speaker 1: It had to be probably nine to forty five, closer
Speaker 1: to ten. That's when I got off the air. He knocked,
Speaker 1: and I remember just seeing him go up and someone
Speaker 1: out the door was like and he was like but
Speaker 1: and I remember they said yeah, come on in, and
Speaker 1: they opened the door and my trojan horse went into
Speaker 1: that freaking radio building where there were five radio stations,
Speaker 1: including the top forty station that it put stickers all
Speaker 1: over our van and I'm freaking out. My trojan horse
Speaker 1: is in the building. And so before he went over,
Speaker 1: we got online and there was a picture of inside
Speaker 1: their studios. Those studios were of Alice one oh seven
Speaker 1: point seven, the pop station in Little Rock. I worked
Speaker 1: at Q one hundred, the pop station in Little Rock.
Speaker 1: We were two battling pop stations. And I remember seeing
Speaker 1: the picture of the studio and showing him, Hey, when
Speaker 1: you get in, walk to this. This is where the
Speaker 1: phones are, this is where the buttons are. We were
Speaker 1: Mission Impossible style going through and we got there and
Speaker 1: he went into the bathroom and he stood on the
Speaker 1: toilet so no one could see his feet in case
Speaker 1: they did a walk around and see who was in
Speaker 1: the building, and he waited until everyone left the building
Speaker 1: except for the one person that was working the overnight shift.
Speaker 1: And since I dropped him off, I drove off and
Speaker 1: he called and he goes, all right, I'm end him
Speaker 1: in the bathroom. He said, cool, let me know once
Speaker 1: everyone's gone. It's about eleven o'clock. He said, all right,
Speaker 1: everyone's gone, I'm going in. And the plan was he
Speaker 1: was going to go in, call me from the radio station,
Speaker 1: phone lines, patch me through the board, turn me up,
Speaker 1: turn the music down halfway, not all the way, because
Speaker 1: that would have triggered an alarm and the engineer would
Speaker 1: have been having to drive up and fix it, or
Speaker 1: someone in the building would have got a call from
Speaker 1: the engineer going hey fix it. So turned me up,
Speaker 1: turned the music halfway down, locked the door on the
Speaker 1: way out, and then came and jumped in the car.
Speaker 1: That was the plan. It worked perfectly. I'm listening to
Speaker 1: the radio station, the one again that puts stickers on
Speaker 1: our van, and I see my phone call with the
Speaker 1: number for three three one oh seven seven. I'm like, oh, hello, hey,
Speaker 1: it's me. All right, you know what to do. Turns
Speaker 1: me up, pulls the music halfway down, and I'm feeling
Speaker 1: at this point like I might actually be on the
Speaker 1: air with the phone the cell phone half so I
Speaker 1: go into the phone. About two seconds go by on
Speaker 1: the radio, I hear like, oh my god, I cannot
Speaker 1: believe this is actually where he comes running out of
Speaker 1: the building, jumps in the car. Even right then I
Speaker 1: don't get on the air. We drive probably three minutes
Speaker 1: to get out of the parking lot. I have now
Speaker 1: a live microphone on the radio station that just puts
Speaker 1: stickers all over our van. I say, everybody on aly
Speaker 1: T one O seven point seven, you need to listen
Speaker 1: to the Bobby Bone Show on Q one hundred. These
Speaker 1: guys are such losers. They suck, and I'm just doing
Speaker 1: that right. They suck. Never listen to this station. And
Speaker 1: Gilligan goes, can I say something, this is where I
Speaker 1: messed up. I said, of course, you just did all
Speaker 1: that work, my trojan horse. I trained you perfectly, but man,
Speaker 1: did you not perform to a t And he grabs
Speaker 1: it and he goes you mother it says it you
Speaker 1: f it. I'm like, oh no, no, no, god no.
Speaker 1: Now I pull it back from him and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I like to apologize for that guy. We ens their
Speaker 1: names and I go on a little longer, but I
Speaker 1: know at this point it's now leveled up. We're in trouble.
Speaker 1: And so I hear and the music turns back and
Speaker 1: it was a Seleine Deond song. I remember it. I
Speaker 1: turned the fool music back up and we're like, we
Speaker 1: did it, yeah, And so we end up going to
Speaker 1: waffle house having a celebratory waffle break dinner and I
Speaker 1: get a call at seven in the morning the next
Speaker 1: day and it's my station general manager, not even my
Speaker 1: program director, the general manager, and he says he, I
Speaker 1: need you to come up to the building right now.
Speaker 1: And I'm confused as to why. I wonder what's going
Speaker 1: on that they would want me to come up at
Speaker 1: seven in the morning. Wow, Am I getting a prize
Speaker 1: highest night ratings in the history of Arkansas? What's happening?
Speaker 3: This is so neat.
Speaker 1: And I get there and his office is right outside
Speaker 1: the sales offices, and it's around eight am at the time.
Speaker 1: Just call me at seven and all the salespeople are
Speaker 1: coming in and out, and he doesn't close the door,
Speaker 1: but his office is right by all the sales cubicles
Speaker 1: and there's people milling around, and I'm a little bit
Speaker 1: confused as to why I'm there looking for trophy or
Speaker 1: kind of radio emmy or something. And he says, do
Speaker 1: you know it's a federal crime to take over someone's
Speaker 1: radio station? Those are public broadcast airways. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is why I'm here. Oh God. And I'm like oh,
Speaker 1: and he says, what you did can get you into
Speaker 1: so much FN trouble. I should f and fire you
Speaker 1: right here, right now for that. And he's just going
Speaker 1: on and he is really giving me the old what
Speaker 1: four And also everybody it can hear this, All the
Speaker 1: salespeople can hear it everywhere. And I'm fired for sure.
Speaker 1: I'm fired. I know I'm fired. At this point, I'm
Speaker 1: regret all of that. And I'm wondering if it's Gillian's
Speaker 1: fault though, because he said that word, not thinking no,
Speaker 1: it's my fault because I set the whole thing up
Speaker 1: and got in and broke into a radio station and
Speaker 1: that took over their airwaves. And then he says, shut
Speaker 1: the door. Oh so he knows the door's open, Well,
Speaker 1: what's he about to do to me with the door closed?
Speaker 1: And I shut the door. I'm a bit shell shocked,
Speaker 1: and that general manager sticks his hands out and he goes,
Speaker 1: that's awesome, and he shakes my hand. He said, never
Speaker 1: do that again. But that's the coolest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Went to all the range of emotions. Friends. In the
Speaker 1: end we got into no trouble because when they threatened
Speaker 1: to legally come after us, we said, you guys vandilize
Speaker 1: our property, okay, so we'll just come at you there
Speaker 1: destruction of property. And in the end nothing happened. That
Speaker 1: story ended up hitting what they would called trade magazine articles,
Speaker 1: trade internet articles, all inside the Traintive radio and it
Speaker 1: was seen by a guy named Jay Shannon in Austin, Texas,
Speaker 1: who said, Hey, I read that story about you. We
Speaker 1: need a night guy. Do you want to come to Austin.
Speaker 1: I've never been to Austin in my life. I took
Speaker 1: the job site unseen, moved to Austin, Texas, went to
Speaker 1: a Culverse, met Amy, met a British woman, did American
Speaker 1: idol here? I am Trojan Horse, though I had my
Speaker 1: own Trojan horse. Gel Agan. I don't know whatever happened
Speaker 1: to you, but if you're watching this You're the ultimate
Speaker 1: Trojan Horse, Buddy, And that was awesome. But the movie's
Speaker 1: good though.
Speaker 2: Hang tight, the Bobby Cast will be right back, and
Speaker 2: we're back on the Bobby Cast.
Speaker 1: There was a story of Morgan Wallen and it's because
Speaker 1: the Internet went so hard on him that it became
Speaker 1: a story. There is this clip of Morgan Wallen in
Speaker 1: a Michigan jersey and I believe he's playing the Big House,
Speaker 1: possibly in Michigan. He's playing the Michigan Football Stadium, and
Speaker 1: it's about a four or five second clip and it's
Speaker 1: not a great clip of a live performance, but it's
Speaker 1: only a four or five second clip, and everyone's like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is what's so bad. I can't believe this is
Speaker 1: the most popular person in music. But there was a
Speaker 1: reason the clip was only four or five seconds because
Speaker 1: it was only odd for four or five seconds. And
Speaker 1: you can watch any live artist for a two hour
Speaker 1: set and find four or five seconds where it's not
Speaker 1: aaaa plus. So it felt bad for him there because
Speaker 1: that's the Internet looking for a reason to beat someone up.
Speaker 1: You're not going to go to anybody's show where they're
Speaker 1: actually singing and record the whole thing and not be
Speaker 1: able to pull thirty sixty ninety seconds seventeen minutes of
Speaker 1: live audio from it and not go oh. So I
Speaker 1: felt bad for Morgan Wallen, and there was a reason
Speaker 1: it was only five seven twelve seconds song is because
Speaker 1: that's all they could find that maybe wasn't the absolute
Speaker 1: best and he was live singing, so there was no
Speaker 1: context around it. So what I would say with this
Speaker 1: is unless people have context around what they're saying, don't
Speaker 1: believe anything on the internet. And there was a reason
Speaker 1: that clip was only seven seconds, twelve seconds whatever it was,
Speaker 1: because I'm telling you, if it was bad for a
Speaker 1: whole song and they had it posted the whole song,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't. I've seen so many clips. I've been
Speaker 1: to a wall and show. He's a good live performer,
Speaker 1: and that went super viral, and it kind of felt
Speaker 1: bad for him, But then again, he's making a million
Speaker 1: bucks a night doing these stadiums, and I stopped feeling
Speaker 1: bad for him. But just generally, the lesson here is
Speaker 1: unless you see extended versions of what people are talking
Speaker 1: about or with context, don't believe anything you see on
Speaker 1: the internet. And if you saw the Morganwallan clip, just
Speaker 1: know they had to dig through a two hour show
Speaker 1: to find seven seconds, because I'm telling you, if there
Speaker 1: would have been more audio that wasn't amazing, they would
Speaker 1: have posted that as well. That's all. That's my one
Speaker 1: quick thing defending Morgan Wallen. He does not need me
Speaker 1: defending him. I did get a bunch of questions asking
Speaker 1: why I did not go to Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 1: Con DWTS Con, which was the first ever convention that
Speaker 1: they had. I ain't get invited. I might have been
Speaker 1: one of the only champions to not be invited. I
Speaker 1: did not get invited, so I didn't go. Why did
Speaker 1: I not get invited? I don't know. They tend to
Speaker 1: not invite me to those things because I think I
Speaker 1: was so different than everybody else on that show. And
Speaker 1: I don't want to clip this part of it right here,
Speaker 1: but I have a perfect troll coming up, and I'm
Speaker 1: only going to leave this in the long form video,
Speaker 1: and I'm only going to leave this in the form audio.
Speaker 1: I have the perfect troll. Not mean, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be mean to anybody, but it's gonna be a little prank.
Speaker 1: It's gonna make the news, and it is my response
Speaker 1: to not getting invited to Dancing with the Stars CON,
Speaker 1: DWTS CON or just generally, you know, not being welcome
Speaker 1: back with open arms. I get it. I was different
Speaker 1: than everybody else. I get it. They had to change
Speaker 1: rules after I went on the show. But I didn't
Speaker 1: do anything wrong. So just so you guys know, when
Speaker 1: you see it, don't be one of those annoying people
Speaker 1: will be like, oh no, this is a trick he's doing.
Speaker 1: Play along with the joke. I didn't want to say
Speaker 1: what it's going to be, but I got something so
Speaker 1: good that I know is gonna make headlines and it's
Speaker 1: not gonna make anybody look bad because I'm not a
Speaker 1: subscriber to that. But it's going to be hilarious and
Speaker 1: we can live in it together. Only we know about this,
Speaker 1: and that's the end of this episode, So thank you
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Speaker 1: on the Bobby Cast. Hey, guys, I wanted to highlight
Speaker 1: a podcast on the Nashville Podcast Network called Get Real
Speaker 1: with Caroline Hobby and Caroline's awesome. She had a record deal,
Speaker 1: she was on Amazing Race a couple of times. She's
Speaker 1: the wife of someone in a pretty famous band. She
Speaker 1: really understands what's happening in Nashville, and she has a
Speaker 1: very interesting perspective. And in this episode of our show
Speaker 1: called Get Real, she talked with Amy Grant about crossing
Speaker 1: over from Christian to pop, having a successful marriage with
Speaker 1: Vince Gill and a whole bunch more and if you
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Speaker 1: Get Real with Caroline Hobby. So here we go. This
Speaker 1: is with Amy Grant from that.
Speaker 3: Episode when you had Heart Motion become this huge crossover
Speaker 3: pop album. Was that scary for you to become a
Speaker 3: pop artist after you had been so rooted in country
Speaker 3: and Christian? Was that a scary moment to now become
Speaker 3: a pop icon? Was that or was it just feel natural?
Speaker 4: I don't think I didn't have an aerial view, you know.
Speaker 4: I remember one time, the only time that I ever
Speaker 4: felt kind of the jolt of what is of the
Speaker 4: energy was going into I can't even remember the name
Speaker 4: of the donut shop right next to Hillsborough High School.
Speaker 3: Oh oh, Donut Den, the doughnut Den, thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was just going in to get an apple fritter.
Speaker 4: I love the apple fritters anyway, and there were some
Speaker 4: high school girls and they came out and we were
Speaker 4: just face to face, and they just screamed right in
Speaker 4: my face. I was like, Hi, well that was weird.
Speaker 4: But I don't you know, at the time, it was
Speaker 4: an unobserved time and so all of that, you know,
Speaker 4: the eighties nineties, Uh, everybody was just doing what they love,
Speaker 4: working hard. You know, I didn't. I was not at
Speaker 4: somebody's dinner table if they had an opinion about it.
Speaker 4: You know, I was at my dinner table. And and
Speaker 4: I and really, I just feel like I want to
Speaker 4: be responsible with the platform that I've been given. And
Speaker 4: so with the popularity of different songs, I felt that
Speaker 4: platform increase. But every every curve in life, there's an
Speaker 4: up and there's a down. And so it's just like
Speaker 4: I remember somebody said to me early on, they said, Hey,
Speaker 4: just remember gracious, gracious on the way up, gracious on
Speaker 4: the way down. And Nashville is such a great creative community.
Speaker 4: It's the song writers, our mentors.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I just feel like, I don't know this. I'm so
Speaker 4: glad to have had my unique life experience. Everybody's life
Speaker 4: experience is unique, but I love that it happened in
Speaker 4: the context of Nashville because this is a unique towns.
Speaker 4: There's so much great education, the world of medicine is
Speaker 4: alive and well, entertainment and philanthropy. And you know, when
Speaker 4: I was in the eighth grade. My school ended in
Speaker 4: the eighth grade, and our speaker for the closing exercises
Speaker 4: was Minie Pearl, and you know, I, I guess I
Speaker 4: are Nashville is not as big then, but I remember
Speaker 4: her just talking to us. You know, we were thirteen fourteen,
Speaker 4: and I just remember talking to us so respectfully. And
Speaker 4: then shortly it wasn't too many years, and then suddenly
Speaker 4: I was just on the very beginning of my musical journey.
Speaker 4: But anytime I did anything public, I would get a
Speaker 4: note from her. I wish I'd saved him. Always on
Speaker 4: Peach stationery, I saw you just I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 4: Good job. And then you know, I sang at her funeral.
Speaker 4: It was just like, you know, like the seasons just
Speaker 4: keep turning and we like, I'm looking at you, going
Speaker 4: go for it and yeah, And I had so many
Speaker 4: people pour into me, and now I get to do
Speaker 4: that to the capacity that I.
Speaker 1: Have, and.
Speaker 4: I don't know, it feels really beautiful. Even the hard
Speaker 4: stuff feels beautiful.
Speaker 3: And I love the cover of your new album, The
Speaker 3: Meet It Remains, because I feel like it's a tapestry
Speaker 3: of your life. I feel like it's like a collage.
Speaker 3: What is a clage like of all different parts of you?
Speaker 3: I think that's really powerful. Okay, last couple questions, What
Speaker 3: is the secret to you invinces this twenty five year
Speaker 3: plus marriage, because you guys just seem so peaceful and
Speaker 3: effortless together.
Speaker 4: Our daughter Karina says, I want a relationship like that,
Speaker 4: and I go, well, we've been in the rock tumbler
Speaker 4: a long time.
Speaker 1: You know. I think.
Speaker 4: We would both laugh and say we spend so much
Speaker 4: time at work that you know, we don't when we
Speaker 4: see each other again, it's like hi, So there's not
Speaker 4: time for familiarity to breed contempt. But I love I
Speaker 4: just love living life him. And I think because we married,
Speaker 4: you know, I was turning forty. I was thirty nine
Speaker 4: when we married, and so my mother's view of women,
Speaker 4: he got five and a half of my good years.
Speaker 4: But I think we we had to come to the
Speaker 4: table with so much respect for the life the other
Speaker 4: person had built and so and we're very different as people.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 4: You know, I grew up in a family that went
Speaker 4: to church every time the doors opened, and he did not.
Speaker 4: And so you know, there are times in our journey
Speaker 4: together that we've been church goers, and there are times
Speaker 4: in our journey that we've just had quiet Sunday mornings.
Speaker 4: And I think I've learned a lot from him in
Speaker 4: what way?
Speaker 3: In what way do you think the most?
Speaker 4: He always lead with kindness, and I wanted always to
Speaker 4: talk through everything. Let's hash it out, let's and when,
Speaker 4: especially when he was younger, he had he had a
Speaker 4: pretty good temper, and I learned he just wanted space.
Speaker 4: And I don't know where we heard the phrase, but
Speaker 4: we have both known the phrase for a long time.
Speaker 4: I never regretted anything. I didn't say, oh, that's so good. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but every couple is unique, you know. We we just
Speaker 4: enjoy being in the same space. But like I love
Speaker 4: going outside, I love and that's not his jam. You know,
Speaker 4: he wants to be in air conditioning. He doesn't want
Speaker 4: a sporting event unobserved. And so during COVID, I mean,
Speaker 4: we do we do some things together, but we do
Speaker 4: a lot of things separately. And it just worked for us.
Speaker 3: So I always wrap up with leave your light. But
Speaker 3: before I do that, I just would love to know
Speaker 3: your thought. What is success to you from someone who
Speaker 3: has truly been at the highest level you can be
Speaker 3: in music at one point in time, the largest contemporary
Speaker 3: Christian contemporary music artists of all time.
Speaker 4: You've won six plus Grammys. That right, that was all
Speaker 4: a long time ago.
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, you have been on the top
Speaker 3: of the mountain. You have been all up and down
Speaker 3: the roads in between. You know, you've lived it all.
Speaker 3: What is success to you?
Speaker 4: Well, that's a big question. I mean, the only thing
Speaker 4: we have is the day in front of us. And
Speaker 4: I'm reminded of Mary Chapman, who was my first mother
Speaker 4: in law. Mary and Terry moved from Texas or Oklahoma
Speaker 4: to come help us with two young kids. When heart
Speaker 4: and Motion was had feel like I was drinking out
Speaker 4: of a fire hose. I mean, and We're at the
Speaker 4: coffee pot one morning and I said, Mary, I don't
Speaker 4: think I've prayed a succinct prayer in two weeks. I'm
Speaker 4: doing overseas interviews in the middle of the night. I
Speaker 4: am exhausted, and I had two young kids. And she said, oh, Amy,
Speaker 4: it just takes one good prayer, just one prayer. And
Speaker 4: I said, well, that's sort of contrary to all of
Speaker 4: my church guilts. But tell me what's that one good prayer?
Speaker 4: And she said, Amy, just every day, say Lord, lead
Speaker 4: me today to those I need and to those that
Speaker 4: need me. And let's something I do have eternal significance.
Speaker 4: She said, You'll never know what that is, but she said,
Speaker 4: just pray that prayer. And I feel like so I've
Speaker 4: prayed that prayer for over thirty years and I'm in
Speaker 4: my fourth decade of praying that prayer. And so to
Speaker 4: me to have a moment where you are connected as
Speaker 4: a human, with yourself, with the world around you, with
Speaker 4: the one who made you, and say, what does today hold?
Speaker 4: And I'm going to be in it and trust, like
Speaker 4: a milkweed in the wind, that you're going to land
Speaker 4: where you need to land.
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