1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mr Garbatschev teared down this wall. Either you're with 2 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: us or you were with the terrorists. If you've got 3 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: healthcare all it, then you can keep your plan. If 4 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: you are satisfied with the Trump is not in the 5 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: President of the United States, take it to the bank. Together. 6 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: We will make America great again. We'll never sharend you. 7 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: It's what you've been waiting for all day. But Sexton 8 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: with America now joined the conversation, called buck toll free 9 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: at eight four four nine hundred buck. That's eight four 10 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: four nine hundred two, eight to five, sharp mind, strong voice. 11 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: But Sexton, a van plowing into a group of people 12 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: in Las Ramblas area by the Plaza Catalonia. We know 13 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: there was a white vamily blue writing that that really 14 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: plowed into this group of people. Please say the driver 15 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: jumped the curb, crashing his van into pedestrians there before 16 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: jumping out of the vehicle and running away. At least 17 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: one person killed thirty two injured in that attack, and 18 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: that police are now calling a terrorist incident. There was 19 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: a really loud, kind of kind of crushing noise, but 20 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: I mean I didn't stop to look back. It's just 21 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: a kind of immediate stampede in the opposite direction, down 22 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: all the kind narrow streets that are by Las Ramber. 23 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: If you could see the fear and the distress on 24 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: these people and the fact that they were screaming in terror, 25 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: regardless of what mind has happened, we knew we had 26 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: to get ourselves out of it. Um I saw a 27 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: woman next to me screaming for our kids. Police were 28 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: very very quickly there, police officers with guns, bands everywhere 29 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: in the whole street. So again pushed back and see 30 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: like chaos at the talk like just cars, et cetera. 31 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: Terror in Barcelona. Bucks acton here with you all now, 32 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining another one of these incidents, 33 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: these horrific events where we know so much about what 34 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: the facts are likely to be before they even come out, 35 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: based upon the patterns we have seen in the past. 36 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: You have in this latest terror attack thirteen dead, a 37 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: hundred wounded, and the number of wounded could add to 38 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: the number of dead soon because some of the injuries 39 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: are described as severe. Am AK the al Qaeda uh 40 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: the al Qaeda website that puts out I'm sorry isis 41 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: website that puts out claims of responsibility um has said 42 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: that this is a an ISIS attack. There has been 43 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: a claim of responsibility. Whether it's just people inspired by 44 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: ISIS or acting at the direction of ISIS, we do 45 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: not yet. No, we will find out more in the 46 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: hours and days ahead. So the target man and as 47 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: soon as I saw the initial news reports breaking earlier 48 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: this morning, I could have written the rest of what 49 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: the day was going to be like, because we've seen 50 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: this so many times. The target was Las Ramblas district 51 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: in Barcelona. It's ay and a wide boulevard, lots of 52 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: pedestrian foot traffic. It's exactly what the Islamic state wants. 53 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: It's so called soldiers, it's muja hadeen, it's holy warriors. 54 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: To target, use a large vehicle. In this case, it 55 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: was a large van. Get it up to the highest 56 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: speed you can and then mow down as many pedestrians 57 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: as you possibly can. This is similar to what we 58 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: have seen in Nice, France back in July. People were killed. 59 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: It's similar to attacks in London, in Berlin, in Sweden, 60 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: in Stockholm. This is the current phase of Jihada's terrorism, 61 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: vehicular attacks, because they have been able to create mass 62 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: casualty events. With this in the past. There is a 63 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: repetitiveness to this. You see in years previous to this, 64 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: you would see terrorists try to get their hands on 65 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: explosive material and build a big explosion, and uh they 66 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: would often times get caught in the process of discussing 67 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: the explosive material or trying to procure that material, or 68 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: they would fail in the technical skills necessary to create 69 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: a an explosive device that detonates on command or on 70 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: a time, or as they wanted to. And so we've 71 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: been very lucky in many incidents where there were not 72 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: uh any casualties in fact, because either the attack was 73 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: prevented or the terrorists were so enact in their murder 74 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: as mayhem that nobody was even injured or wounded. Of 75 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: you had mere blocks from where I was when it 76 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: detonated an I e ed go off in Chelsea's neighborhood 77 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: of Manhattan here in New York City. Uh, there have 78 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: been so many of these incidents where it could have 79 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: been so much worse. In fact, bay based on the 80 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: difficulty involved in a sense, you think, well, it should 81 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 1: have been so much worse, except we got lucky. Today. 82 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: We ran out of luck. Are Spanish brothers and sisters 83 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: are European allies, the Western world, the civilized world. We 84 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: we ran out of luck, and we have over a 85 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: dozen killed and many, many scores more grievously wounded. People 86 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: on the scene terrified as a result of what happened. 87 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: Even those who escaped physical wounds, many of them will 88 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: have uh PTSD post traumatic stress disorder after this, and 89 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: uh it unsettles the entire city of Barcelona, all of Spain, 90 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: and all all of the civilized world. As I said, 91 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: there's nothing satisfying in terms of the analysis. When you 92 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: come out of an incident like this, there's nothing there. 93 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: There are no real takeaways too saw all of this 94 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: problem to make it go away, especially when you're looking 95 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: at an attack like this where it's low tech, no skill. 96 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: Uh is just the mindset. It is the ideology. If 97 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: you have an individual who is radicalized in a free society, 98 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: or quite honestly, in any society, not even you know, 99 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: not even the authoritarians of North Korea, not even the Iranians. 100 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: We will prevent one of their own people from doing this, 101 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: Getting into a vehicle and mowing people down, doesn't matter 102 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: how status to society is. We could do everything in 103 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: our power. We could mike up everyone, we could surveil 104 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: every person in the country. Theoretically it's not possible, but 105 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: and it would still be possible to do this. It 106 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: is about the ideas. It's the embrace of Jehotism. It's 107 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: a narrative. We talk here often about how I said, 108 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: yes Day News is a narrative. Jihotism is an arrative. 109 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: And at the center of that narrative is that there 110 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: is only one true faith. That faith is Islam. Those 111 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: who are the real Muslims, the true believers, must take 112 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: it upon themselves to attack nonbelievers, including fellow Muslims, who 113 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: do not subscribe to this pure form of Islam, and 114 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: they must take the fight to their enemies. They must 115 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: spread jihadism, they must spread the Caliphate. And while it 116 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: doesn't look to any of us like this will happen 117 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: in the near term, there's a reason why they chose Spain. 118 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: I was over at Fox News for a number of 119 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: of hits earlier today and and uh, our friend Shawn 120 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: Hannity was kind enough to have me on his radio 121 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: show to lend a little analysis on this issue. Because 122 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: I as those of you listening hopefully no, or maybe 123 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: you're just learning for the first time. I'm a former 124 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: c I a CTC analyst. So I also worked at 125 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: the NYPD Intealence Division for counter Terrorism for a number 126 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: of years, um, and those you were wondering how long, 127 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: I guess it was from two thousand and five until 128 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven. This is what I did all day, 129 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: all the time, think about this, study it, learn it, 130 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: work to assist the war fighter, work to assist intel 131 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: and law enforcement to stop exactly these kinds of attacks. 132 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: So this was my professional background for for a chunk 133 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: of time before I came into media, and yes, as 134 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: as an analyst, this is what I did. I sat 135 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: around and thought about it and worked with UH investigators, 136 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: door kickers, war fighters to go after the bad guys. Um. 137 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: And as I look at this now, and having spent 138 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: countless hours reading through threat assessment reports and understanding the 139 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: history and ideology of different terrorist groups, I can say 140 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: that Spain is very high up in the hierarchy of 141 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: target sets in the jihadest mind because of what is 142 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: now often a forgotten history, a history that is not 143 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: taught but one then I'll talk to you a bit 144 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: now and that has to do with the Islamic conquest, 145 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: which remember, jihad is m is not is neither offensive 146 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: nor defensive. It is just holy war. People talk about 147 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: defensive and offensive jihad, but it can be both. It 148 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: has been both, and in the case of Spain, the 149 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: Islamic conquest lasted there for centuries. They called it Alan 150 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: de Luz. There was the Caliphate of Cordoba. It was 151 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: for centuries one of the most in fact, at one 152 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: point probably the wealthiest and most important part of the 153 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: Islamic Empire. We also don't often talk about Islam as 154 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: an empire, but that's exactly what it is. The jihad 155 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: ists are trying to reconstitute what is a form of 156 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: Islamic colonialism. They want to retake territory that they took 157 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: via force of arms, and with Spain they call it 158 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: Alan Delus. In fact, the Straits of Gibraltar are named 159 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: for an Islamic general who crossed as part of the conquest. 160 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: And when you look at and people refer to it 161 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: as Andalucia or Alan Delus. It wasn't until fourteen nine 162 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: two that you had with Famously, for those of you 163 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: who know the movie El Sid, you had the Spanish 164 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: rey kon Quista. Now in this country people were for 165 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: to the ray kon Quisa, sometimes as something else, but 166 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: the ray kon Quista, which took quite a long time, 167 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: and the final expulsion of Islamic forces from Spain, and 168 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: then you had a period of time where there were 169 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: continued insurgencies from what they called the Moriscos, and the 170 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: Morriscos were people who were either of mixed Spanish and 171 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: Moorish heritage. They referred to the Muslims in Spain as 172 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: the moors um and this also then led to a 173 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 1: series of counterinsurgencies, which we don't often think of it 174 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: in those terms, but that's what it was, including under 175 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: some of the major European dynasties that controlled Spain, there 176 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: were concerns that those maurice Goes, those Moors who had 177 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: stayed behind, would in fact assist with the invasion of 178 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: Spain that would come after four after the racon Quista. 179 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 1: But this is all to say that the furthest in 180 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: terms of held territory, the furthest that the Islamic conquest 181 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: ever got in Europe was Spain was in was that 182 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: was control of the Iberian peninsula, Ala and luz alan 183 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: Or and Lucia. That's the furthest that they ever got. Yes, 184 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: they were turned back in eastern Europe, notably a number 185 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: of times. The Ottoman forces were turned back at Vienna, 186 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: and the the Islamic conquest got as far as France, 187 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: and then we're turned back by Charles Martel the hammer. 188 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: This isn't taught in schools anymore. People don't learn about this, 189 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 1: or if they do, it's one line, it's a footnote. 190 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: But to the gee Hottest mindset, that was the high 191 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: water mark. That was the period of greatest expansionism of 192 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: the Caliphate, and they were right at not just at 193 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: Europe's doorstep, they had Europe by the throat. You may think, buck, 194 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: what does this have to do with anything today? The 195 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: ge Hottests are people who hearken back to a period 196 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: of time of the Islamic Conquest. They have a different 197 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: view entirely of history than we do. So to strike 198 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: at Spain, even though it's not going to topple the government, 199 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: it's just going to murder a bunch of innocent people 200 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: on the streets. But in their mindset, this is retribution 201 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: for the expulsion of Muslims from what they will always 202 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: believe now is Muslim land. The fact that it was Christian, 203 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: the Muslims took it and then they lost it does 204 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: not factor into their thinking. They view this as a 205 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: blow against the Christian infidels for the Caliphate. And then 206 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: there are some additional contemporary reasons having to do with 207 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: Spain and its roland, NATO in the Middle East, which 208 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: I'll get into in a moment here. But this is 209 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: what we have seen today. It was a jihadist strike 210 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: against a European ally and friend in some at some level, 211 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: in some part because of what happened in the fifteen century. 212 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: So remember that. And when we try to talk about 213 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: how to stop how to stop Islamism and jiha is Um, 214 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: understand that they view what happened at different points in 215 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: history that are not even thought of, not even remember, 216 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: not owned in America, as influencing geopolitics today. Gee honest. 217 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: Will talk about the balt four about four Declaration in 218 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: Palestine today, they will talk about the psychs Pico Treaty 219 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: dividing the Near East between the French and the British today, 220 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: and they will discuss the loss of Alan de Luce 221 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: and Lucia today as it effects there plans of conquests, 222 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: so I'll get into this. Also, we have Trump's tweet 223 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: about something in the Philippines. Give you some backstory on 224 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: that continued fight over the monuments. Definitely need to spend 225 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: some time on that. What are your thoughts, my friends, 226 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: on what's happened today, today's events? Anything else on your mind? 227 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: Eight four four nine Buck eight four four nine eight 228 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: to five. Barcelona and our entire missions team are currently 229 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: assisting Americans in Spain who are affected by these events. 230 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: We ask us citizens in the area to let your 231 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: loved ones know you are safe. Terrorists around the world 232 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: should know the United States and our allies are resolved 233 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: to find you and bring you to justice. Trump administration 234 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: not mincing words there, you have Secretary of State Rex 235 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: Tillerson saying that we stand in uh we stand alongside 236 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: our allies, and we grieve with the people of Spain, 237 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,479 Speaker 1: and we will continue to take the fight to the terrorists, 238 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: to Islamic gi hottests wherever, which I suppose is repetitive, 239 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: but wherever they are um and if they're within our 240 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: cities or if they're overseas, we will find them, and 241 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: if they pose a threat to us, we will take 242 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: them out. That is the way this is going to be. Um. 243 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: I just want to give you a little bit of 244 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: a show road map here because I know I say 245 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: this a lot, but it really is true, because I 246 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: have time to prepare a show that is well, really prepared. 247 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: It's not just me sitting here like yeah, that' saw 248 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: a headline in our two. I seek every day to 249 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: make sure that the people that listen to this show 250 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: team buck, my wonderful audience, my collection of friends and 251 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: patriots that listen every day, that they are um going 252 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: to come away from the show knowing things that they 253 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: did not know before, and that you will learn more, 254 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: especially on days like today, from listening to this show 255 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: than in my in my opinion, any other show that 256 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: you will hear. This is what I did. This is 257 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: my background. Not only am I an amateur h Well, 258 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say amateur historians haven't written any histories. But 259 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: I have a love of history, but also have real 260 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: counter terrorism operations analysis background. Uh so. But as a 261 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: roadmap for the rest of the show, and I can 262 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: see we got lines lit up all over the place. 263 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: We will also get to some calls. I'm gonna tell 264 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: you talk to you a bit about the media reaction 265 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: to much of what has gone on in the last 266 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: twenty four hours, and well, what's gone the last few hours, 267 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: I should say about this terrorist attack. We will get 268 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: into the monuments debate, because you'll notice that there there's 269 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: this hesitation among the mainstream media to go too far 270 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: into focusing on a mass casualty terrorist attack by je 271 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: Hottest in a European city, because they really still want 272 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: to talk about Charlottesville, because they really still want to 273 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 1: talk about Tromp and how he didn't respond properly, and 274 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: they want to have this fight over pulling down Confederate monuments. 275 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: And I want to share with you my thoughts on that. 276 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: So we will get into that topic if you if 277 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: you want to talk to me about that. By the way, 278 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: eight four four buck, especially a lot of you I 279 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: know live in the South, what do you think do 280 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: you want these monums to come down? Which ones and how? 281 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: And what? Eight four buck third hour we're gonna be 282 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: spending on free speech and how they're trying to change 283 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: not just the laws, are not just private institutions, and 284 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: how they operate in this, but also the laws on this. 285 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: It's a lot of show coming sponsor. This hour is 286 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: a Bowling Branch look. 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Stay with me at the point 320 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: I would make in light of the the up of 321 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: the last couple of days, five days apart, you have 322 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: and supremacist and Charlottesville used a vehicle to kill and 323 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: here you have attackers at least following the modus operandi, 324 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: terrorists using vehicles apparently to kill as well, and if 325 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: that's those shared tactics, that it should be alarming. And 326 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: then senior National security correspondent Jim Shudo, whom I know 327 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: and used to work with, suggesting that isis is you know, 328 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: getting its tactics from white supremacists in Charlottesville. Now this 329 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: this passes for analysis over at CNN. Um wow, days 330 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: like today they could really use me, but quite honestly, 331 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: they wouldn't want to because can handle the truth. Um 332 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: here's what wolf Blitzer then went on to say about this. Yeah, 333 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: and there will be questions about copycats. There will be 334 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: questions if what happened in Barcelona was at all at 335 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: all a copycat version of what happened in Charlottesville. Yeah, 336 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: lots of questions about that one. Wolf Amazing. I mean, 337 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: you know they're they're paying this guy in the seven 338 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: figures to say things that you know a lot of 339 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: you are are. I can hear you slapping your forehead 340 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: across the country, be like what, Yeah, I know, Uh, 341 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: where does this level of of inane stupidity come from? Uh? 342 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: Let me first just give you a little list. It 343 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: could be you could make the conclusion. You could draw 344 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: the conclusion that this attack in Barcelona thirteen dead, scores 345 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: more wounded people uh, broken with broken bones, shattered hits, 346 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: shattered femurs. I mean, you know, head injuries. Who knows 347 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: some of them may never walk again, severe injuries, including 348 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: in addition to those who were killed. In Charlottesville, you 349 00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: had a guy run his car in a bunch of 350 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: protest ester's in the middle of a riot, by the way, 351 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: And I know that this is now not politically correct 352 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: to say, but it was a riot situation. You had 353 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: people hitting people on both sides. That doesn't mean that 354 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: it justifies anybody who you know, if you're in the 355 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: middle of a riot and you swing your bat and 356 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: you hit somebody in the head and you kill them, 357 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: which can happen, you're a murder. You know. I'm just 358 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: gonna say, well, you know other people were doing it. No, 359 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: this guy drove his vehicle into people. He killed somebody, 360 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: heard a lot of other people. Okay, fine, he's facing 361 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: secondary murder charges, as he should. But to act like 362 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: this was some complex terrorist attack representing an international terrorist 363 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: agenda on the along the lines of jihadism and the 364 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: Islamic state and al Qaeda is just insane. It's wildly 365 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: intellectually dishonest, and it's so stupid. I mean, you had 366 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: this thing in Charlottesville. Okay, if Charlottesville had happened and 367 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: then this happened in a vacuum, I could understand why 368 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: people who go on TV who are supposed to know 369 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: about the world they don't, but they're supposed to know 370 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: about the world, maybe would make that mistake. But here's 371 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 1: another way to look at this. It's also possible that 372 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: the attacker in Spain, and I promise you will find 373 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: out more about how he had been radicalized over are 374 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: they if it's a couple of people radically I believe 375 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: it is. We have one who was killed in a shootout, 376 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: a couple who have been taken into custody. But we'll 377 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: find out that there was a radicalization that occurred over time, 378 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: that there was most likely surveillance of a target set 379 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: in southern Spain, in Barcelona rather um. And so this 380 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: is going to be exactly the playbook that the jihadest 381 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: terrorism playbook. This is gonna come right out of it. 382 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: A man of Moroccan origin has already been taken into 383 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: custody and you can write you can write this out yourself. 384 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: You know what this is gonna be. We're gonna find 385 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: out that he visited extremist websites. We're gonna find out that, 386 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, he he blames Spain for its foreign policy 387 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: or and I should know that. People who are googling 388 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: this before they go on TV it seemed like they 389 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: know something about terrorism, was like, oh, well, the Madrid 390 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: train bombings of two thousand and four, Okay, yeah, that 391 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: was the last time there was a major terrorist attack 392 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: in Spain and it changed the course of an election there. 393 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: And it was specifically in reference to UH, the the 394 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: j Hottest Rather, we're targeting Spain because they were part 395 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 1: of the coalition of the willing to attack Saddam Hussein 396 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: in Iraq. Uh and you had over a hundred people 397 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: killed in those and the Madrid train bombings. Um. But 398 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: this is the first time that the Islamic State has 399 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: ever claimed an attack on Spanish soil. Uh. Let's be clear, 400 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: Spain has has a very strong non intervention history, especially 401 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: when it comes to dealing with Jehotest terrorism. There are 402 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: protests even about the Spanish assistance in the anti Isis 403 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: mission going on the Spanish people don't want it, they 404 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: want no part of it, they don't want to be 405 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: involved in the fighting. That so that Spain would be 406 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: argeted specifically when it's not involved in the continuous air 407 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: strikes against the Islamic State. It has taken a role 408 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: in the coalition, but has not a particularly active combatant 409 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: against ISIS. Just goes to show you that it's it's 410 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: not about a country's foreign policy anymore. They're hitting Spain, 411 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: as I said, because it's Spain. But back to CNN 412 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: and the analysis of maybe this is maybe this is 413 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: tied to Charlottesville. Well, maybe it's also tied to the 414 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: uh attacks in Berlin, Germany in December of Niece France, 415 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: in July of in Israel, in Melbourne, in London, in Stockholm, 416 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: in Montreal, in Glasgow, all vehicle attacks, all jehotas. By 417 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: the way, could it could it be that maybe it 418 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: is in some way connected to Inspire magazine put up 419 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: by al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula telling people get 420 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: yourself a a power full vehicle and mo people down. 421 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: That's a great way to engage in jihad. That was 422 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: back in I think that was six or seven years ago. Now, 423 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: But no, let's pretend that Charlotte. Let's pretend there's a 424 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: connection to Charlottesville. That's how desperate they are to stay 425 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: on the Charlottesville. Uh news cycle that a major terrorist 426 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: attack with a lot of people killed in another city 427 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: is related to Charlottesville. Um, this is This would be 428 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: like saying, okay, there was just a let's just say 429 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: there was just a big a mass shooting. It there 430 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,719 Speaker 1: was a school shooting that just happened. You know, one 431 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: of the most horrific events, news events that that anyone 432 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: ever covers that that happens in this country. A school 433 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: shooting has happened. And imagine some anchor goes on TV 434 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: and says, well, you know, it's kind of like that. 435 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: You know, there was a shooting and people died. So 436 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: it's like that drug deal that went bad in uh, 437 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, in Detroit where somebody was killed a couple 438 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: of nights ago. One one has apps resolutely nothing to 439 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: do with I mean, they both involve firearms and people dying. 440 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. And 441 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: a person who went on TV and said that would 442 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: rightly be mocked and ridiculed for being an idiot that 443 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: shouldn't be on TV trying to explain the day's events 444 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: to people. What the heck is CNN doing? Well, it 445 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: might be that there are conductions to uh to really 446 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: you think this ge hottest in Barcelona was like, oh, 447 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't gonna mow people down with my 448 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: car based on all the other incidents like that were 449 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: people who are of Muslim background radicalized becomes g hottest 450 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: and do this in Europe by the way, most notably. 451 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 1: But but then when I saw the Charlottesville guy, then 452 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: I really decided it was time to give this a 453 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: give this a shot. It's just it's so dumb. But 454 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: it's so obvious too, isn't it. It's pathetic. It's to 455 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: keep this in the news cycle. It's to bring up Charlotte'sville. 456 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: It's so we can go back to discussing Charlottesville, because, well, 457 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: whatever happened to h. Muller and Russia collusion. You know 458 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: that we've we've we've been absent any big bombshells about 459 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: Trump and Russia collusion for a few days now. Uh, 460 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: did all those reporters just stop finding out all this 461 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: stuff about Russia? We have no leaks from the Muller 462 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: investigation to speak about no No, because they thought that 463 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: this Charlottesville Trump response was a more potent way to 464 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: undermine and get at the administration. So now here we are. 465 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: I am astonished and how inept much of the media 466 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: is at dealing particularly with terrorist attacks. In fact, I 467 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: think I've told the story here on the show before. 468 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: I will never forget being at CNN after hours after 469 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: the Nice attack, which I mentioned to you in Nice 470 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: FRONTCE on Bastide Day back in Bastide is a national holiday, 471 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: storming the Bastille Um. They lost eighty six people that day, 472 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: along in a beautiful beach front town, celebratory mood. People 473 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: via Ge Hottest driving that truck, although for a few 474 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: days like well, we're not sure, maybe you know, maybe 475 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: he had a fight with his girlfriend. We don't know 476 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: if he's really a Gi Hottest. Of course he was. 477 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: But um. I went on TV that night at CNN, 478 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: and it was a bunch of other former government such 479 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: and such as as and me um and one after another. 480 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: The primary takeaway they had for the American people on 481 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: that national news channel was that France doesn't do a 482 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: good enough job of assimilating its Muslim minority. That's the 483 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: real takeaway, Not that we face a a challenge to civilization, 484 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: Not that this is an effort to undermine the West 485 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: and to destroy our societies and to use our freedom 486 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: and to use our liberty against us, and to be 487 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: part of a vanguard of conquest that is both violent 488 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: and political in its machinations. Uh No, No, it's that 489 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: they don't do a good enough job assimilating there. And 490 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: this is applauded by the way. I'll just know it 491 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: before I go in to break that. Uh. I was 492 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: here New I was in New York City maybe a 493 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: few weeks after that, and a guy stopped me in Chelsea, 494 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: which is a very liberal neighborhood here in New York. 495 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: It's uh often associated with with the gay rights movement 496 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: and has a very large, large gate gay community. And 497 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: a guy came up to me with I believe it 498 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: was his his husband, because they talked to me for 499 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: a little bit and you know, they just sort of 500 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: call said, you know, we saw you, we saw you 501 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: on TV, and um, I just want to say that 502 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: we were so happy that somebody, you know, Chelsea tends 503 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: to be a liberal Democrat neighborhood, right, And these two 504 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: guys came up and said, we saw you, and we 505 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: just thought you were great because you said, why can't 506 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: we focus on the terrorists? Why can't we focus on 507 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: the gee hottest? Why? Why is this about how France, 508 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: which is a wonderful country, doesn't do a good enough 509 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: job welcoming immigrants? I mean, well, what are they doing 510 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: in France? Then? So it's just kind of note and 511 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: by that, I'm willing to bet these guys didn't gree 512 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: with me on a whole lot else, but they agree 513 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: with me on that one. All Right, I know, we've 514 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: got a lot of lines, a lot of lines lit 515 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: up here, and we'll go into um, we'll go into 516 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: a break, we'll come back. We'll talk about this and 517 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: also the monument's battle. And every record has been destroyed 518 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: or falsified, Every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, 519 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: Every statue and street building has been renamed. Every date 520 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: has been altered, and the process is continuing, day by 521 00:32:54,320 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: day and minute by minute. History has stopped. No thing 522 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: exists except an endless present in which the party is 523 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: always right. That's George Orwell or Eric Blair before he 524 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: took up his pen name uh writing in four which, 525 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: as I've told you, is, in my opinion, the most 526 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: important English language book written in the twenty century. Um 527 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: so you can certainly argue it's the most important book 528 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: written in the twentieth century. And it's about the actual 529 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: erasing and rewriting of history in the dystopian future that 530 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: he describes in remember this line, every picture has been repainted, 531 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: every statue and street building has been renamed, every date 532 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: has been altered. Well, someone please do explain to me 533 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: what we are to make of what's going on right 534 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: now in this country. This is from just earlier today. Quote. 535 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: It was in the best interests of my city, Mayor 536 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: Catherine Pew said Wednesday as she explained why she ordered 537 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: Confederate monuments removed under the cover of darkness days after 538 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: violence broke out during a rally against the removal of 539 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: a similar similar monument in neighboring Virginia. I said, with 540 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: the climate of this nation, Miss Pew said later that 541 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: I think it's very important that we move quickly and quietly, 542 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: with no immediate public notice, no fundraising, and no plan 543 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 1: for a permanent location for the monuments. Once they had 544 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: been exercised all things city officials once believed they would need. 545 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: The mayor watched in the wee hours on Wednesday as 546 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: contractors with cranes protected by a contingent of police officers 547 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: lifted the monuments from their pedestals and rolled them away 548 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 1: on flatbed trucks. The mayor has the right to protect 549 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: her city. For me, the statues represented pain, and not 550 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: only did I want to protect my city from any 551 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: more of that pain, I also wanted to protect my 552 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: city from any of the violence that was occurring around 553 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: the nation. That's all reporting from the from the New 554 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: York Times on how monuments are being removed now just 555 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 1: by fiat of local politicians, using of course, public funds 556 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: and calling into effect police protection in the dead of 557 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: night so that there's no discussion, no one sees it, 558 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: and when they wake up, it's just gone. It's not 559 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: there anymore. Although in this case there were people celebrating 560 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: at the empty or at the pedestals with now empty 561 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: space above them, to which Roberty Lee and Stole Stonewall 562 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: Jackson previously occupied, and now it is spray painted over 563 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: with the phrase black lives matter. That's where we are now. 564 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: People toppling and destroying statues and acts of vandalism encouraged 565 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: by the press, public officials. After months of debate, just 566 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: deciding on a whim, We're going to get rid of 567 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: these statues encouraged by the press, vandalism of public property 568 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: with slogans like black Lives Matter, celebrated by the press. 569 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: Here we are. Where does it end? Where does it stop? 570 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: I'll revisit that question with you, because remember when the 571 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: President came out and said exactly that, where does this stop? 572 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: What's next? Who's next? What statues are next? And who 573 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: when judged by contemporary morality, would not be perhaps worthy 574 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: of after the fact, eras sure the erasing that occurs 575 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: now because of what they thought and did at the time. 576 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: I know you have, many of you have thoughts on this, 577 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: and I've seen every we've had the lines let up 578 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: for the entirety of the show, every single phone line 579 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: we've got her in the Freedom Hunt. Let me get 580 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: to some of your calls here. Uh, let's take Madison 581 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: in North Carolina's w P T. I. Hey Madison, Hey, 582 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:46,439 Speaker 1: how's it going? Good? Good? Thanks? Thank you? Yeah? The 583 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: the monuments, um, where does it end? Um? You know 584 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: Trump said that, and then what was it yesterday? The 585 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: pastor in South such Iago wanted to change the name 586 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: of Washington Park. Um, you know, I I'm okay with 587 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: you know, the nineteen memorials that went up for the centennial. 588 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: I'm okay with those being taken down. But there are 589 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: a lot of there are a lot of people that 590 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: that we we really need to be watching this and 591 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: and keeping an eye on this. I mean yeah, I 592 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: mean I don't know this. Where does this stop? And 593 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: also what what are we to do about people who 594 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: think that they now have the right to demand, to 595 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,439 Speaker 1: demand that things come down that have any connection, any 596 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: connection to people who were uh involved with slavery, pro 597 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: slavery owned slaves, or or any number of other you know, 598 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: fought for the Confederacy. These are all areas where I 599 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: should know that it's not going to stop here. By 600 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: the way, people who were at any generals who were 601 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: involved in fighting against the Native Americans, I'll say they're 602 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: part of a genocide against the Native Americans. Uh, they're 603 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: going to demand I would think the renaming of some 604 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: cities that are named for named for Native American tribes 605 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: as I mean, it's just this just there's no there 606 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: is no end, right, there's no outer limit to what 607 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 1: the demands can be here. And it's just about the 608 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: exercise of power that doesn't bring us together as a society. 609 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: It doesn't right historical wrongs. Um, this is now people 610 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: making demands and taking action in the dead of night 611 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: as we see well, and it's it's extremely ironic because 612 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: what was it last week or the week before, all 613 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, the Statue of Liberty is 614 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 1: you know, the poem on the Statue of Liberty is 615 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 1: is immigration law and we should follow that? Oh yeah, 616 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: it's it was. It was sanctified. I mean, it was 617 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: sacred that poem. You can't touch that. I mean, come on, 618 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: come on, you know, I mean, okay, well, now is 619 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: lady Liberty I mean do we take her down now? 620 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,280 Speaker 1: You know, is she gonna get melted down? Or or 621 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 1: or well she is? I mean, you know, lady Liberty 622 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: is is sis gender. So in a sense it's you know, 623 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: she's it's not inclusive enough. I mean, I don't know, 624 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: you know, whatever you think right now, Madison is is 625 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: the outer limit of of what is possible. It will 626 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: change and what sounds like hyperbole today what sounds like 627 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 1: an exaggeration right now about what the left is going 628 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: to try and accomplish. Just give it time. We'll be 629 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: there shield time. Madison, thank you very much for the call. Uh, 630 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: let's take Chris and Mississippi w j D s Hey Chris, 631 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: hey Buck, Thanks for taking my call. I enjoyed the 632 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: shale a lot. I just wanted to start off by saying, Um, 633 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 1: a lot of us didn't listen to you and enjoy 634 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 1: the show. Appreciate all the research that you referenced earlier 635 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: that you do put into the show, and uh, listen 636 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: to it online if you can't catch it on the 637 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: radio here locally. Thank you so much, very much. Appreciate 638 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: you focusing as much research and attention as you have 639 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: to this monument issue. And he's kind of stolen a 640 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: lot of my thunder and hit a lot of the 641 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 1: points I wanted to make about how what you think 642 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: is hyperbole an exaggeration is something that will be coming 643 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: to fruition um soon. Uh. This this push that's mad push, 644 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: this furied push in the last week or so that 645 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: is very similar to the tragic, an awful killing that 646 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: happened in Charleston by a very sick individual. It's just 647 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: it's very similar to that. The events that happened then, 648 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 1: UM there have been There's been a UH A chapel 649 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 1: defaced on Duke's UH campus. There's been a Lincoln the 650 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,919 Speaker 1: Lincoln Memorial was vandalized, a Lincoln bust was vandalized, and 651 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 1: the stuff is going to continue. In New Orleans specifically, 652 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: I think the city spent about two million dollars plus 653 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: city funds, firefighters, city resources that were vitally needed. Another 654 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: very like crime prevention infrastructure, A lot of it. A 655 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 1: lot of that was focused on UM the monument removal 656 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,359 Speaker 1: of the four statues down there, and it is from 657 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: friends and relatives that I have lived there. It is 658 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: caused the city to be more polarized and the atmosphere 659 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: more caustic when it comes to racial UM racial issues 660 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: in that city than it was before. Lastly, I just 661 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: wanted to say that the monuments, and you're seeing this 662 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: and polls that are starting to come out UM the 663 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: monuments or by the majority, are supported in the public 664 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 1: UH public area. Most people do support them as symbols 665 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: to UM ancestors in the past that a vast majority 666 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 1: of people are descended from and people simply instead of 667 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: removing the statues and the plaques and references, would would 668 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: be feel I could be more appropriate for plaques and 669 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: memorials and statues to other things like victims with slavery 670 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: or heroes of abolition to be elected. Uh, in the 671 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: public sphere. But I appreciate the show, thanks for everything 672 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: that you do research wise, and uh well, friend high Chris, 673 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Appreciate the con call. I think 674 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: that we have to get to the heart of the 675 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: problem here, and the heart of the problem is the 676 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: way in which many of us were taught American history. 677 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: American history is not all glorious. George Washington was a 678 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: slave owner, and we need to call slave owners out 679 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: for what they are, whether we think they were protecting 680 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: American freedom or not. He wasn't protecting my freedom. I 681 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: wasn't someone who my ancestors weren't deemed human beings to 682 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: him and so to me. I don't care if it's 683 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 1: a George Washington statue or a Thomas Jefferson statue or 684 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 1: a Robert E. Lee statue. They all need to come 685 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: down there you go. Washington statue, Jefferson statue. They all 686 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: need to come down. That's Angela Ry on CNN and 687 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 1: whatever it's worth. Actually, I always, you know, on a 688 00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: person to person since I've always kind of liked that. 689 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 1: But she's saying it, bring him, bring him down, bring him, 690 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: bring the statues. What was it two days ago? Oh, 691 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: come on, he's no one's gonna say take the Washington's 692 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 1: and no one's gonna say take Jefferson statue down as 693 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: their founding fathers, you know, the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, 694 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: you know, first president, third president. Come on, Oh no, 695 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: we're there, we're there. I'm not saying that everyone's there, 696 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: but a but a good amount of people believe that 697 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: this is, in fact the way the way things should go. 698 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: I should also note that he'll see, uh, the mayor 699 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:42,280 Speaker 1: of New York City build the Blasio formerly Warren Wilhelm. Hellos, 700 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: the Kaisa is a here. Hello Gooden talk holt of 701 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: you descend. He wants to do an overview of all 702 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: of this is a different possibly offensive names of the 703 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,359 Speaker 1: buildings in New York. So Bill the Blasio is going 704 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 1: to be looking at, uh, you know what, whether the 705 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,919 Speaker 1: Washington you know, what do we have here in New York. 706 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: He's doing a ninety day review here in New York City. 707 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it is just you're gonna see a lot 708 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: of stuff. Washington Square Park, I guess we'll have to 709 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: change the name to like the park um even ones 710 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,280 Speaker 1: that people don't know very well. Uh. De Lancey Street 711 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,879 Speaker 1: here in New York City for those of you who 712 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: know the city pretty well. His named for a guy 713 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 1: who was a British colonial era judge and was a 714 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: presiding judge over a what was what was said to 715 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: be although now people believe it may have been a fake, 716 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: a planned slave revolt, and at least according to one 717 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: book that you can get up on Amazon, one historian H. 718 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,760 Speaker 1: De Lancey ordered not just the execution but the burning 719 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: alive of a number of slaves in that plaza. That's 720 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,919 Speaker 1: De Lancey Street, Big street here in New York City. 721 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you're gonna have a lot of 722 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: streets and a lot of parks and a lot of 723 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 1: things that have to get renamed. And how's that going 724 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 1: to work? By the way, I mean, how's it gonna work? 725 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 1: What are we gonna call these things? I can't call 726 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,879 Speaker 1: them historical figures. I mean, are we gonna religious call everything. Uh, 727 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: you know Hillary Clinton and Teddy Kennedy. Park is is 728 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: that we're heading for. I mean, what are we gonna do? Well, 729 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: we'll call things and inanimate objects. Keep in mind a 730 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 1: lot of unanimate objects are named for people. I don't know. 731 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: I know we changed the name of Mount McKinley to Denali, 732 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: so there was that. Uh Scott in North Carolina, w 733 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,800 Speaker 1: p T I what's up, Scott? Hey? Um, bear with me. 734 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: I've got a cold. Um. I'm really upset about the 735 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: press not telling the full story about the Durham Monument 736 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:49,240 Speaker 1: toppling that happened. Um number one. I have seen numerous 737 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 1: pictures and papers where they've got these tight shots that 738 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 1: were the individual. I'm not gonna say your name because 739 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 1: I don't want to give him any more press that 740 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: she had a press conference, and all these pictures are 741 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: tight pictures of our face on TV and in the newspapers. 742 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 1: But if you go and look at online and look 743 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 1: at the signage, all the people standing around them, they've 744 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 1: got everything from cops and clan go hand in hand, 745 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 1: dropped the charges smash white supremacy. Um, it seems like 746 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,760 Speaker 1: there was one more and I can't remember what it was. Well, 747 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: what's at the bottom of the each of these signs 748 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: is the Workers Party um organization, which is the communist 749 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: Workers Party in the United States. And then if you 750 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 1: go back and do a little more more forensics, guess 751 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 1: who was there the day the toppling of the statue 752 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 1: came down the same sign, same adage at the bottom 753 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: of the signs www Workers dot Org, no Trump, no KK, 754 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 1: no racist USA. This is communist And nobody in the 755 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: mainstream press wants to talk about that. These are communists, uh, 756 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, rising up in the United States, and there's 757 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: nothing bad about those, but they're gonna dwell on all 758 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 1: the other things they want to dwell on. The and 759 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 1: the bad guy that did kill the young lady up 760 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: in Charles Mill, Virginia. But he wasn't He's not the 761 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,839 Speaker 1: face of the conservative public today. Yeah you can. I 762 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: was saying today, you can go around with hammer and 763 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,319 Speaker 1: sickle flags, and you can be a proponent of of 764 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 1: communism openly in this country and be treated not just 765 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: with respect but also as though years some kind of 766 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: intellectually part of an intellectual vanguard. I mean, you know, 767 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: the the cultural left is so uh is so entrenched 768 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 1: on college campuses that if you want to talk about 769 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 1: how you need to take marks more seriously, and you 770 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 1: want to go to rallies where you discuss that the 771 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: fact that communism, and specifically the Soviet Union with the 772 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: hammer and sickle, that version of communism killed many millions 773 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,720 Speaker 1: of people, that is irrelevant, it seems to the current 774 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 1: discussion of it. And uh, thank you Scott for calling in. 775 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: You know, I used to see these the same signs 776 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 1: and a lot of the same rhetoric, and it's forgotten now. 777 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,760 Speaker 1: But the whole Occupy Wall Street movement was a bringing 778 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 1: together of it united the looney left. I mean, you 779 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: had all these different factions and many of the slogans 780 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna have to go into one of my 781 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 1: I think I have one on the on an old 782 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 1: laptop and I'll see if I can find some. I'll 783 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 1: post some up if I can on Facebook dot com. Uh, 784 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: slash buck Sexton, UM, many of my um uh. Many 785 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 1: of the of the slogans that you see as part 786 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: of Black Lives Matter, they were already out there and 787 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 1: being used by this anti police faction, this back in 788 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: twenty eleven period, this anti police faction that was within 789 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: Occupy Wall Street and they were and and and the 790 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 1: Black Block, which anti fall is just black block with 791 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,840 Speaker 1: Donald Trump in office, right, black block has been around. 792 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: I've been to Black Block protests to cover them in 793 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 1: the past. Uh, none of this is new. None of 794 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: this is surprising. The wearing the gas masks, black clothing, 795 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 1: had to tow um, throwing rocks, getting into it with 796 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,879 Speaker 1: police on the street, breaking breaking windows, destroying property. They 797 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 1: were a part of Occupy Wall Street two or or 798 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,760 Speaker 1: they were you know, they were from within that movement. 799 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 1: But the anti police part, calling them murderers and racist, 800 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: murdering cops and all that, that was all that all 801 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: existed in and the media ran with some of these, uh, 802 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,080 Speaker 1: these stories, particularly Mike Brown and Ferguson and some others 803 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 1: and gay and then Black Lives Matter really became at 804 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:47,319 Speaker 1: the very forefront of progressive leftist policies. And now it's 805 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,840 Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter and anti Father, but really anti fazz 806 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: sort of at the at the well, I mean, you 807 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,319 Speaker 1: can say either one of them, I suppose, but anti 808 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 1: Fazz getting a lot of attention right now. But these 809 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 1: are not new and the presence and this is what 810 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 1: made me think of this from our last caller. The 811 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 1: presence of communist lines, communist signs and slogans in protests. 812 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: I would see World Workers Party signs, you know, hammer 813 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 1: and sickle flags. I took photos of these guys. I 814 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: would talk to them, what are you doing here? Well, 815 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,399 Speaker 1: you know, we think that the communist revolution is coming 816 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 1: to America and and that's just totally fine with people. 817 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 1: Somehow we'll get into this and anti fad more. That's 818 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 1: some more calls lit up on the screens here. Buck 819 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 1: Sexton with you now, Thank you so much for joining. 820 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 1: Uh really moving through a lot today on the show. 821 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 1: Don't forget to Please subscribe to the podcast Buck Sexon 822 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,879 Speaker 1: with America now on iTunes. Uh you can listen to 823 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 1: the show whenever you want that way. And also buck 824 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,800 Speaker 1: sextion dot com slash store to get some team buck 825 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 1: gear T shirts. I got my T shirt today, check 826 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 1: it out. Uh. Brett in Mississippi w j D s 827 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 1: Hey Brett, what's gone? But thank you for having me? 828 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: Thank you in my opinion, Thank you, sir, appreciate that 829 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: very kind. Hey. I just wanted to talk to you 830 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 1: men or two about you know, the historical context the 831 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 1: things that kids are not getting talked to school about 832 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 1: history and fishes South. I live around two monuments in 833 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 1: my local area, and back after the Civil War, people 834 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 1: regarded the veterans as just like we referred to as 835 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 1: War two veterans. You know, they were dying. Also, communities 836 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,280 Speaker 1: that were devastated about the ward had been burned down. 837 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,800 Speaker 1: It's backed by the Union soldiers down here would collect 838 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: all the money and donate these monuments and statues to 839 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 1: not commemorate slavery and all that, like the left like 840 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,399 Speaker 1: the believe, but to commemorate the people that didn't come 841 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 1: home or though wounding that sort of thing up. I've 842 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 1: got a great great grandfather that survives shallow who I 843 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: name my three year old after he didn't known any slaves. 844 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 1: Then participating all that was not racist, and you know 845 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 1: it was just a good man. Uh, this is what 846 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 1: That's a lot of people, you know, like the left 847 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 1: and all that, the Democrats to demonize the spouse and 848 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: try to demonize the monuments and all these figures. But whenever, 849 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: like what Trump said, you try to say, well we 850 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 1: need to get rid of Washington and all that, Well 851 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 1: it's okay because they were on the right side of history. 852 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:17,839 Speaker 1: But when you look at Lee and all these other 853 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 1: people that actually had a positive side as well as 854 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 1: some bad side, it's it's just a double standard in 855 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,840 Speaker 1: that aspect. Now, there's there's a lot of nuances in 856 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: the in this discussion, and they get lost in the 857 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 1: rush to be either politically correct or to be politically 858 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,800 Speaker 1: sanctimonious right, or to be to be virtue signaling, whether 859 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 1: you're an individual or a politician or somebody in the media. 860 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,840 Speaker 1: There's a lot of that going on. Yes, sir um 861 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 1: and I had a discussion with you know, acquaintance of 862 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: mind about all this, and again it's the same rhetoric 863 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,759 Speaker 1: that we keep hearing from the Democrats now, who want 864 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: to you know, get rid of George Washton and all that. 865 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 1: You know, I tell people, you know, I've been to Daco, 866 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 1: I've seen the evils of Holocaust and racism and flavor 867 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: and all that. And when you try to compare that 868 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 1: to what the left is doing tearing down monuments, they 869 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 1: try to say, well, you know, these other individuals are 870 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,879 Speaker 1: right side of history, and they don't want to say 871 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 1: just end the discussion there. That's that's what it's all 872 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 1: about it's just a narrow minded narrative. And just like 873 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 1: we saw in New Orleans and just like Mississippi steaming 874 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 1: steam with our state flag trying to be changed. It's 875 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,319 Speaker 1: all about political gain. It's all about politicians making money. 876 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 1: It's what it's all about. I hear your breath. Thank 877 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:32,320 Speaker 1: you for calling him and shields high. Uh. Speaking about Antifa, 878 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 1: which I was before, this is the way the media 879 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: talks about this group that is dressed in all black, 880 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,400 Speaker 1: wearing masks, engaging in violence, shutting down speech. Oh and 881 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 1: as a decide a lot of talking about a lot 882 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:46,839 Speaker 1: of talk about the battle of a free speech coming 883 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 1: up in the third hour of the show today, including 884 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 1: how there's pressure on the a c l U to 885 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 1: abandon the notion of free speech as free speech, that 886 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: hate speech should not be covered, that speech should be 887 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 1: a sign different privileges based upon the race of the 888 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 1: speaker as a matter of law. Everybody that's happening right now, 889 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 1: that that is an ongoing debate. There are people who 890 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 1: are pushing, actively pushing for that. So we'll talk about 891 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 1: that in the third hour. But back to Antifa, you know, 892 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,680 Speaker 1: they are the the tip of the anti speech spear 893 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: right now, and this is the way they're talked about 894 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 1: on at least some of the cable channels out there. 895 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,360 Speaker 1: On the one side, you have hate filled people who 896 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,600 Speaker 1: who want to eliminate people because of what they believe 897 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: are what they look like. On the other side, you 898 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 1: have people who don't agree with that viewpoint. That is 899 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 1: not a reasonable argument. You had a group on one 900 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 1: side that was bad, and you had a group on 901 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,480 Speaker 1: the other side that was also very violent. Sometimes good 902 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:50,080 Speaker 1: guys get hurt fighting the villains. There are not two 903 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:55,760 Speaker 1: sides in this. They're hideous, hateful, enemies of America, enemies 904 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 1: of freedom, and there were people exercising their free speech. 905 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: You had a group. You had a group on the 906 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 1: other side that came charging in without a permit and 907 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 1: they were very, very violent. There was no other side there, 908 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 1: There was no other bad side in this. There was 909 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 1: so that we all agree nazis bad, Anti faz is 910 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,480 Speaker 1: not bad now, Antifa may not and and I don't 911 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 1: think it did represent all of the counter protesters. I 912 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 1: think there were some protesters there, but there was also 913 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,240 Speaker 1: anti fa there. It was a riot. I've seen the footage. 914 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: There's there's really no debating this. There there were people punching, kicking, 915 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,440 Speaker 1: hidden with sticks, throwing rocks. It was it was a mess. 916 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:43,320 Speaker 1: And what's this? Why is it okay for the You know, 917 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 1: the press is always so Trump Trump lies, He lied 918 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,239 Speaker 1: about this, He lied about that. Why is Trump blin? 919 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:53,799 Speaker 1: What's with this? Uh? This double standard? Why are they 920 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 1: allowed to lie about anti fuzz violence and role in 921 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: what happened in Charlottesville. No one is defending well, no 922 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 1: normal reasonable person is defending anybody, any of the Nazis. 923 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 1: But what's with defending anti antipa is being held up 924 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 1: as heroes. What I said that the surprise of the 925 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 1: week really is the left is not just saying, you 926 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 1: know Nazis bad. You don't denounce Nazis enough, you must 927 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 1: be a Nazi and you know that was all to 928 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 1: be expected. But Antifa are somehow heroic? Well, what is it? 929 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 1: Where did this come from? You have a professor Eric 930 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 1: Michael Eric Dyson of Georgetown University said the following. The 931 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 1: people that we claim black lives matter, the Antifa movement 932 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 1: and interested in preserving the fabric of America. Antifa is 933 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 1: interested in preserving the fabric. Let's be very clear Antifa 934 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 1: wants to rip apart the fabric of America and even 935 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 1: does not believe in free speech, just does does not 936 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 1: full stop, and also thinks that the President of the 937 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 1: United States is a fascist. It seems to believe that 938 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 1: the president is a fascist and therefore his supporters are fascists. 939 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 1: And but look, this takes you and it's some pretty 940 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 1: scary territory. What is justifiable? Let's assume what they all 941 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 1: say is true, that Trump is a fascist and that 942 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 1: this is a fascistic movement and the people that vote 943 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 1: form and support them or somehow all part of that. 944 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 1: What what is justifiable? What lengths are they morally What 945 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 1: lengths are morally acceptable to go to in a in 946 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 1: a situation where you have a the rise of a 947 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 1: fascist movement in America? Do they want to answer this question? 948 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: Does the left want to give us an answers to 949 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 1: this or do they just prefer to call him a 950 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 1: fascist but act like maybe he's not maybe he's not 951 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 1: really a fascist? Well, why are you saying that? It's 952 00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 1: quite an accusation, It's quite an allegation. Um, And and 953 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 1: this is this is getting heated. Oh I see Kate 954 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 1: Baldwin over at CNN and Virginia Senate candidate Corey Stewart 955 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 1: got into it over Antifa. I haven't even I'm learned. 956 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm hearing about this exchange when you did too. Let's 957 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 1: let's hear what they had to say. Tent mainstream media 958 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,439 Speaker 1: or any democratic politician has come out, and not even 959 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,640 Speaker 1: establishment Republicans have come out and condemned the far left 960 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 1: group Antifa, which has been a supposing attack you. Why 961 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 1: do you think that is, Corey? Maybe? Is it possible 962 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:37,680 Speaker 1: because they're afraid Establishment Republicans are find being labeled by 963 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 1: CNN as racing bigots, and they know that that's exactly 964 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 1: what you're going to do. And there's only a few 965 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 1: of us you're gonna stand up to you. Where is 966 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 1: the condemnation of Antifa? A far less? Where is your 967 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,640 Speaker 1: condemnation of Where is your condemnation of of the right 968 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 1: who I've already I've already I've already condemned it, and 969 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 1: by the way, so has every other Republican under the sun. 970 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 1: What he says there's true, but notice his initial point. 971 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 1: People are scared, they don't want to be called racist, 972 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 1: and that has such an effect on the way Republicans 973 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: react to this, particularly Republican politicians, but also people in 974 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,920 Speaker 1: the media. They're just scared, and they have reason to 975 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 1: be scared because they will get them fired. They will 976 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 1: ruin their they will ruin their lives, they'll ruin their jobs. 977 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 1: Not for being racist, just for being insufficiently animated in 978 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 1: their hatred towards racism. It is like a North Korea standard. 979 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 1: You can't just say, yeah, I praised the dear leader. 980 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 1: It's I praised the dear leader and he's amazing, and 981 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 1: anything for him, and you know, I'll give him a 982 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 1: BackRub if I see him and he's you know, you 983 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 1: can never do enough. It's never enough. But where are 984 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 1: the condemnations of of anthropha? And another point not to 985 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 1: take us back to the monument thing again, Well why not? 986 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:49,840 Speaker 1: Actually it's my shrug and do whatever I want. Right, 987 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 1: let's go back the monument. Think for a second. All 988 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 1: these politicians, now you know the Nancy Pelosi, hey taken 989 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 1: the monuments. You get all these politicians out there that 990 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 1: are grands ending on this. You know, you you had 991 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 1: President Obama eight years. Where was the big movement to 992 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 1: take did they just they just discovered these monuments. Now 993 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:14,200 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi is just like, there's some confetitate monuments. She 994 01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 1: just found this stuff. Now it wasn't there before. Noah, oh, 995 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,920 Speaker 1: actually Trump is president. So now now those monuments are scary, 996 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,760 Speaker 1: but before they were what they were. Okay, you know 997 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 1: that that that memorial in in Baltimore that came down 998 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 1: the middle of the night. It just started frightening people. 999 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 1: Now now I know people will say, oh, no, but 1000 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,919 Speaker 1: this is you know, progress is always feel sudden bucking. Ah. 1001 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 1: This is not a new debate. This is not a 1002 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 1: new issue. And there's clearly greater political political potency in 1003 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 1: this moment right now for the Democrats by doing all 1004 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 1: of these things while there is in fact a Republican 1005 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 1: president in the White House, because it goes towards the 1006 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 1: atmosphere of, see, we need to have news stories and 1007 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 1: have discussions all about combating racism because Trump that's what 1008 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 1: they really want this to be about. Um, I would look, 1009 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that Trump really pushes more on the issue 1010 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 1: of uh, having the DJ look into affirmative action and 1011 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 1: check out what happens for Asian Americans applying to schools. 1012 01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 1: And that's and that's an argument that the left is 1013 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 1: going to have a very That's a place they're gonna 1014 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 1: be a a very hard time winning. They'd much rather have 1015 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 1: people taking uh photos of themselves spitting on statues that 1016 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:44,200 Speaker 1: most people ignore, don't really know about, don't really care about. Um. 1017 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:48,320 Speaker 1: And as I was saying, what are really the benefits 1018 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,040 Speaker 1: of doing this at this point? What does it go to? Shows? 1019 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 1: And if we take the left current line that seems 1020 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,280 Speaker 1: to be growing in popularity, that you know, Washington and 1021 01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 1: Jefferson and what we really are going to repute eight 1022 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,040 Speaker 1: a big chunk of US history. Well, what are we 1023 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 1: gonna do? Who's what are we gonna name things after? 1024 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 1: What becomes? What's the American story? What is the American founding? 1025 01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 1: If we can't celebrate Washington and Jefferson and a whole 1026 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,720 Speaker 1: bunch of others. By the way, what what happens? Then? 1027 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 1: I don't have any answers for you. I'm really asking 1028 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,000 Speaker 1: the question. I just think that this is going to 1029 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 1: continue to get a lot of attention politically. All right, UM, 1030 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,919 Speaker 1: we will, like I said, big discussion of a free 1031 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 1: speech specifically and what it means in the private sector 1032 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 1: and what it means for the government. The public sector. 1033 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 1: H and how we should everyone should be on notice 1034 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:52,280 Speaker 1: right now because today it's about silencing Nazis, which sure, okay, 1035 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 1: I hate Nazis, you hate Nazis. If Nazis are silence, 1036 01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 1: we don't really pay much attention to it other than 1037 01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:00,919 Speaker 1: to say, great, but what they do to Nazis, keep 1038 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,439 Speaker 1: in mind, they're gonna want to do to just conservatives 1039 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,880 Speaker 1: because they think that the difference now between conservatism and 1040 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 1: Nazism is well. Actually, here, here's Jim Acosta of CNN, 1041 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:15,200 Speaker 1: senior political correspondent. No, I think we saw the president's 1042 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,480 Speaker 1: true colors today, and I'm not sure they were red, 1043 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,880 Speaker 1: white and blue. How the White House could put out 1044 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 1: talking points, uh, saying that the President was in the 1045 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:26,200 Speaker 1: right here is just it's baffling. It's strange, and that 1046 01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,560 Speaker 1: they are right in one respect, he has united the 1047 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,280 Speaker 1: country against the views that he espoused today, which we're 1048 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 1: right there on the edge of white nationalism. There you go, 1049 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,040 Speaker 1: senior political correspondent to the presidents, right on the President 1050 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:42,000 Speaker 1: himself right on the edge of white nationalism. Okay, Well, 1051 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:43,480 Speaker 1: the next week he's gonna go back to being a 1052 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:47,000 Speaker 1: journalist who's nonpartisan and unpiased. Right, That's that's what we're 1053 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,760 Speaker 1: supposed to think that that's that's cute. How that's supposed 1054 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 1: to work, isn't it? Um? But yes, we'll get into 1055 01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,440 Speaker 1: that and much more. Uh. Well, there has been a 1056 01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 1: bomb with the Democratic Caucus that the president will hang 1057 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,760 Speaker 1: himself and he's certainly doing a real good job of it, 1058 01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 1: and that we should just let him do that. I 1059 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 1: have been tempted to introduce an appeachment resolution to today 1060 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,440 Speaker 1: announced that I will be introducing my own impeachment resolution. 1061 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 1: I had introduced, along with twenty nine other Democrats, a 1062 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:18,720 Speaker 1: resolution of no confidence back in July that listed about 1063 01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:23,800 Speaker 1: five articles that the of actions the president had taken 1064 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:29,080 Speaker 1: that we found uh reprehensible. There you have Democrats Steve 1065 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,320 Speaker 1: Cohen of Tennessee saying that he can't wait for Trump 1066 01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 1: to quote hang himself and quote as he puts forward 1067 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:41,280 Speaker 1: an impeachment resolution. I mean, I'm gonna I would ask 1068 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,880 Speaker 1: the question, first of all, if can you imagine with 1069 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:48,280 Speaker 1: any previous president if a a member of the of 1070 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:52,080 Speaker 1: the UH other political party referred to the president quote 1071 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:55,439 Speaker 1: hanging himself. I mean, just let's let that one sit 1072 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 1: for a moment and I know that he I think 1073 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,160 Speaker 1: he was like he was using as a figure of speech. 1074 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 1: But the double standard is still very much there, which 1075 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,400 Speaker 1: is that you know, a figure of speech. I wish 1076 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 1: that everybody could say, well, that was a figure of 1077 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,240 Speaker 1: speech when they really meant it to be one. But 1078 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,000 Speaker 1: in certain context doesn't matter. If the figure of speech 1079 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 1: you're you're in a whole bunch of trouble at least 1080 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,600 Speaker 1: if you're a Republican. So there's that. But also I 1081 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:24,720 Speaker 1: was gonna say impeachment for impeachment for what I guess 1082 01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't even it doesn't even matter. It's just about 1083 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,040 Speaker 1: impeach Trump because they hate them, so they're gonna go 1084 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 1: for that somehow. Um one thing I didn't get a 1085 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 1: chance to mention. Just want to take a moment too. 1086 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:42,240 Speaker 1: I am bouncing around here with different topics. But the 1087 01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 1: press is much more favorable towards Antifa than any sane 1088 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,360 Speaker 1: person would be. But they agree with anti final lot 1089 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,800 Speaker 1: because they ultimately agree that with anti Father, that there 1090 01:06:55,840 --> 01:07:01,120 Speaker 1: needs to be a radical political movement to oppose Trump's 1091 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,680 Speaker 1: radicalism in this country. That's what they think. That's what 1092 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,800 Speaker 1: this Antifa. Remember, anti fascism, I mean fascism, and we're 1093 01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 1: talking about like they're referring to like World War two fascism, 1094 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,919 Speaker 1: people going to death camps, and as though somehow there's 1095 01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:20,200 Speaker 1: an equivalency with a Trump administration. It's just nonsense from 1096 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,440 Speaker 1: some other dimension. I mean, it's just crazy. But the 1097 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,520 Speaker 1: press is favorable towards Antifa, even though and this was 1098 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,360 Speaker 1: really underreported, and that's why I wanted to take a 1099 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:33,400 Speaker 1: moment to note it for all of you. Even though 1100 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:38,960 Speaker 1: there were journalists who were covering what happened in Charlottesville. 1101 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 1: They were there, and do you know which side attacked them, 1102 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:50,160 Speaker 1: violently assaulted them. Antifa did. Why wasn't that you would 1103 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,720 Speaker 1: think that other journalists would be a bit more upset 1104 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:58,280 Speaker 1: about their fellow journalists getting attacked, I mean punched, you know, 1105 01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,760 Speaker 1: bloodied in the course of their work for doing their 1106 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:07,440 Speaker 1: work and uh punched one of them in the face. 1107 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,440 Speaker 1: And they've now come out this is this is confirmed. 1108 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,760 Speaker 1: Punched the journalists in the face, kicked the camera when 1109 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:17,240 Speaker 1: fell on the ground. To journalists were assaulted um by 1110 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,719 Speaker 1: by Antifa, but they won't say, They'll say two counter 1111 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,400 Speaker 1: protesters and so no, these were Antifa people that that 1112 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:31,000 Speaker 1: attacked journalists. That's how political this is for journalists that 1113 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:36,240 Speaker 1: they will allow their own to get physically abused and 1114 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 1: assaulted with very little by way of outrage, very little 1115 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 1: coverage of it. How many of you even knew that? 1116 01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,040 Speaker 1: I had to look around to find this, that you 1117 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,519 Speaker 1: are journalists getting punched in the face by the quote 1118 01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,679 Speaker 1: Antifa group that's there to to stand up against fascism 1119 01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:58,640 Speaker 1: and Nazis. Why they punched journalists in the face, Oh, 1120 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:04,840 Speaker 1: because they are self hus baby ish radicals posing as 1121 01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:09,400 Speaker 1: revolutionaries when in point of fact, they're cowards who need 1122 01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:13,120 Speaker 1: to move around in packs like some roaming mob. And 1123 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:17,840 Speaker 1: it's not just Nazis. They attack everybody, They attack mainstream conservatives. 1124 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,520 Speaker 1: They've done it in city after city across the country. 1125 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,479 Speaker 1: And journalists are such cowards when it comes to sending 1126 01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 1: up to Antifa that they don't even make so much 1127 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:32,040 Speaker 1: as a peep when Antifa goes after journalists. Free speech 1128 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,559 Speaker 1: debate coming up. If you're drowning an IRS debt and 1129 01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,800 Speaker 1: can't afford to pay, then you need to take advantage 1130 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,400 Speaker 1: of special I r S tax programs that are available 1131 01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,200 Speaker 1: and free yourself from I R S collection efforts. Once 1132 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,040 Speaker 1: and for all due to the financial hardship consumers are 1133 01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,559 Speaker 1: facing during the decline in the U S economy. The 1134 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,559 Speaker 1: internal revenue start so in my business team, and welcome back, 1135 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,040 Speaker 1: thanks for being here. One of the great things about 1136 01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,519 Speaker 1: the era in which we live is that you can 1137 01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:04,879 Speaker 1: UH communicate directly with people all the time who are watching, reading, listening. 1138 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,400 Speaker 1: And that's great. And with those of you out there 1139 01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,880 Speaker 1: who sent me Facebook messages or tweeted me, I really appreciated. 1140 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,640 Speaker 1: It adds so much to what I do here, and 1141 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,639 Speaker 1: it's great. I will say, however, that I have been 1142 01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,760 Speaker 1: on the other side of this, most notably at CNN, 1143 01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:24,080 Speaker 1: where I was essentially called uh an uglier version of 1144 01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:28,360 Speaker 1: Mrs Doubtfire, Uh Java the hut with a tupei, I mean, 1145 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:33,559 Speaker 1: you name it. They the more nasty and sometimes creative 1146 01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:37,479 Speaker 1: and almost humorous but not nice. UH they could be. 1147 01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,000 Speaker 1: They were happier with that right. They were trying to 1148 01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,439 Speaker 1: always when I when I come off air do when 1149 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,759 Speaker 1: a hit, I would all of a sudden be told 1150 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,840 Speaker 1: that you know, I was the I was like, the 1151 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:50,320 Speaker 1: I look like like something that had you know, gone 1152 01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,080 Speaker 1: out of a toxic waste dump. And if I ever 1153 01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:58,040 Speaker 1: had a a collar that got came above my jacket 1154 01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,479 Speaker 1: for a second, or if my tie was a little askew, 1155 01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,840 Speaker 1: which those of you who know me knows this kind 1156 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,400 Speaker 1: of a buck thing that happens sometimes. I'm an askew 1157 01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:10,160 Speaker 1: tie kind of guy. I would not be reminded gently. 1158 01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,200 Speaker 1: I'd be told, you look such an You're so dumb, 1159 01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, whenever I go on CNN and you just 1160 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:20,559 Speaker 1: wonder sometimes who are these savages? You know, who are 1161 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,240 Speaker 1: these imbeciles who are sitting at home or wherever they are. 1162 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,360 Speaker 1: And you know, I'd be one thing if I were 1163 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,559 Speaker 1: trying to be an underwear model, or or I was, 1164 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,120 Speaker 1: you know, pretending to be like the Doseki's most interesting 1165 01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:36,040 Speaker 1: uh man in the world or whatever. But you know, 1166 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm just a guy who's talking about politics and policy 1167 01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,000 Speaker 1: on TV and trying to look like I'm professional when 1168 01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm doing it. But you know I am. I am 1169 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,040 Speaker 1: well aware of my limitations. And it was just so 1170 01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:50,599 Speaker 1: unnecessary and nasty. Anyway. I've occasionally gotten nastier than that, 1171 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:55,000 Speaker 1: but not really. I haven't gotten much in the way 1172 01:11:55,160 --> 01:12:00,599 Speaker 1: of explicit death threats. And it's just really bothers me 1173 01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:04,280 Speaker 1: to see what happened here. To Ebbony Williams over at 1174 01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,760 Speaker 1: Fox News. So she spoke out about and she, by 1175 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:11,280 Speaker 1: the way, for those who are wondering, is very well 1176 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,560 Speaker 1: liked and very highly regarded by people who are in 1177 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,200 Speaker 1: the industry, in the business. She's nice to me when 1178 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:21,720 Speaker 1: I see her. Uh she spoke out about Fox, I 1179 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:26,320 Speaker 1: mean about Trump and was critical of what happened or 1180 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 1: what Trump did after Charlotte's Fille, and she said that 1181 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:32,599 Speaker 1: you know, she she looked she'd be rated in there's 1182 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,719 Speaker 1: no way around it. Um. But then people started getting 1183 01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:40,680 Speaker 1: uh so crazy that they were probably she's an independent 1184 01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:42,880 Speaker 1: I mean, not that that even matters, but she's not 1185 01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:47,599 Speaker 1: some left wing antifa apologists or something. And people were 1186 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,920 Speaker 1: people are threatening her, and they're making death threats about 1187 01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,720 Speaker 1: at her. And of course it's nice to see, you know, 1188 01:12:55,760 --> 01:13:00,439 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity who understands this way that he has on 1189 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,599 Speaker 1: the right. Sean stepped in publicly and was like, everyone 1190 01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:07,720 Speaker 1: needs to like stop with any nonsense about threatening Ebony. 1191 01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,640 Speaker 1: And I think that because he has so much credibility 1192 01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:14,320 Speaker 1: on the right, people will some people, perhaps will you know, 1193 01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,599 Speaker 1: step back from being nasty, never mind death threats which 1194 01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,599 Speaker 1: are actually illegal. I think some people forget that using 1195 01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:24,519 Speaker 1: an Internet enabled device across state lines making a death threat, 1196 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,960 Speaker 1: you actually get a lot of trouble for that. But 1197 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,479 Speaker 1: this is something that now we I feel like it 1198 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,640 Speaker 1: needs almost be taught in school, or it needs to 1199 01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:36,400 Speaker 1: be at a younger age. You don't mock and threaten 1200 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,360 Speaker 1: and harass people that you see on TV or that 1201 01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:43,960 Speaker 1: you disagree with or whatever just because you can. And 1202 01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,840 Speaker 1: you certainly don't make death threats against anybody. As I 1203 01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,519 Speaker 1: was saying, it's it's an issue of law. I mean, 1204 01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:55,519 Speaker 1: that's actually illegal. But it is so very disgraceful that 1205 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,879 Speaker 1: there are those out there who disagree with someone's politics 1206 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,920 Speaker 1: and then try to make them fearful for their safety. Uh. 1207 01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,800 Speaker 1: And I know that, and at some point in time 1208 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,599 Speaker 1: this will this will happen to me too. And it's 1209 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,840 Speaker 1: one of those things that in this business you just 1210 01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,200 Speaker 1: accept that if you are doing enough and are are 1211 01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,599 Speaker 1: getting big enough, there are gonna be people who come 1212 01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,120 Speaker 1: after you in that way and who actually threatened your 1213 01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 1: your safety. But anyway, Uh, all the support, thoughts and 1214 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,679 Speaker 1: prayers possible to Abney Williams over at Fox, and it's 1215 01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,519 Speaker 1: just you know, some people, it's just like they want 1216 01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,240 Speaker 1: to ruin the Internet. You know, that's what. That's what 1217 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:34,160 Speaker 1: these these trolls and those who threatened people and everything. 1218 01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,920 Speaker 1: They're just ruining the Internet for everybody. All Right, Um, 1219 01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk a bit about free speech issues in 1220 01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:44,320 Speaker 1: some depth here, both from the private sector and government 1221 01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,479 Speaker 1: sector side. So stay with me. We'll be right back, 1222 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:50,439 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, back with you now. Team corporate America is 1223 01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:55,719 Speaker 1: taking a stand against white supremacists. That's the news story 1224 01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:59,080 Speaker 1: that you're seeing now getting some fraction across the web, 1225 01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,320 Speaker 1: and it's let let me give you some of the details. 1226 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,679 Speaker 1: But I also want to just start by saying that 1227 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,920 Speaker 1: this is not going to be a thing that only 1228 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:14,880 Speaker 1: happens this one time. It's not just about opposition to Nazis. 1229 01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:19,160 Speaker 1: They're not only going to use this as an opportunity 1230 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:23,560 Speaker 1: to stand against what is actual hate and white nationalists. 1231 01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:29,960 Speaker 1: This usage of corporate muscle as a form of policing speech, 1232 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:36,080 Speaker 1: specifically for Internet platforms that are essential now to getting 1233 01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:40,679 Speaker 1: one's message out there, This will be used again. This 1234 01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:44,439 Speaker 1: is a continuation of the problem that we're seeing on 1235 01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,920 Speaker 1: the on the left that they assume that they will 1236 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:50,479 Speaker 1: always be the ones policing the speech. And so they 1237 01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:54,160 Speaker 1: have no problem with the concept of policing speech. They 1238 01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:58,680 Speaker 1: assume that quote marginalized communities will always be protected by 1239 01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:03,519 Speaker 1: those doing the censoring. But and as a result of that, 1240 01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,800 Speaker 1: they're fine with censorship. You see. It's a very short 1241 01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:10,439 Speaker 1: term thinking, but it allows for the pursuit and the 1242 01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:15,120 Speaker 1: acquisition of political power because if you control the discussion, 1243 01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:19,120 Speaker 1: you control the decision making. If you control speech, you 1244 01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:23,000 Speaker 1: control perception. So that brings me to this piece the 1245 01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:29,160 Speaker 1: Washington Post about companies that are booting the alt right 1246 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:34,479 Speaker 1: white supremacist site called the Daily storm Er Uber, the 1247 01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:38,479 Speaker 1: vehicle ride sharing company that's gotten rid of them. Google 1248 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:42,920 Speaker 1: has kicked them off, PayPal has kicked them off. UH 1249 01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:48,080 Speaker 1: and their web hosting server, Go Daddy got rid of 1250 01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:51,960 Speaker 1: them because of quote an article disparaging a woman who 1251 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,000 Speaker 1: was killed while protesting the Unite the Right rally and quote, 1252 01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,440 Speaker 1: So go Daddy has gotten rid of them, their website 1253 01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:02,559 Speaker 1: has come down. The there are other companies that are 1254 01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,720 Speaker 1: saying they're going to speak out about this. Um you 1255 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:11,320 Speaker 1: had uh WordPress kicking Vanguard America, which is another white 1256 01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:18,280 Speaker 1: supremacist group off. Now these are all right now understandably 1257 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,360 Speaker 1: actions that are not going to get a lot of 1258 01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:26,720 Speaker 1: pushback because white supremacists are terrible. As I said yesterday, 1259 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:31,320 Speaker 1: they're just above child molester and necrophiliac. I don't know 1260 01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:35,479 Speaker 1: what else you put in that category of hated across 1261 01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,519 Speaker 1: society and quite the same way. But white supremacists, I mean, 1262 01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:42,040 Speaker 1: they're they're right next to the Westboro Baptist Church. I mean, 1263 01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:45,880 Speaker 1: these are terrible people. Okay. So this is though, when 1264 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,320 Speaker 1: you see, when it comes to free speech and rule 1265 01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:51,720 Speaker 1: of law, what are your principles. It's so easy to 1266 01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:55,880 Speaker 1: stand up and say, oh, I I believe in free 1267 01:17:55,920 --> 01:18:00,559 Speaker 1: speech as it relates to and some issue of either 1268 01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:04,040 Speaker 1: you know, some esoteric political issue or something that it 1269 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:08,320 Speaker 1: doesn't get passions particularly high. But the the hard case 1270 01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,799 Speaker 1: to make is the is the protection of the speech 1271 01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,320 Speaker 1: that no one wants to hear. And we're I'm gonna 1272 01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,360 Speaker 1: talk to you shortly about how there's an effort now 1273 01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,479 Speaker 1: to change the law around free speech that the left 1274 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:24,680 Speaker 1: is just openly embracing. I mean there they are embracing censorship. 1275 01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:30,240 Speaker 1: They are embracing a differentiation of speech rights based upon 1276 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:35,120 Speaker 1: the identity of the speaker. Very very troubling stuff. But 1277 01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,679 Speaker 1: in the private sector, this is what we're talking about 1278 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:43,559 Speaker 1: right now. These are private companies, Go Daddy, Uber, Google, Google. 1279 01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,040 Speaker 1: As we know, you can't write a memo at Google 1280 01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:52,439 Speaker 1: without getting fired that addresses some issues of diversity and sensitivity. 1281 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,559 Speaker 1: So we are, now, what going to assume that it's 1282 01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,639 Speaker 1: only the daily stormers and the white supremacists and white 1283 01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,920 Speaker 1: nashal lists of the world who are going to have 1284 01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,920 Speaker 1: this problem. We really think that the the only groups 1285 01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,200 Speaker 1: that are going to get kicked off of these various 1286 01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:11,760 Speaker 1: What about pro life groups? Do you think that they 1287 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,400 Speaker 1: won't necessarily have What about groups that say that, for example, 1288 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,719 Speaker 1: what about someone like me who will openly state that 1289 01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:25,720 Speaker 1: a policy of aborting babies who have a possibility a 1290 01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:30,479 Speaker 1: likelihood of being born with Down syndrome is eugenics? Am 1291 01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,920 Speaker 1: I is that well? Am I triggering? Is that beyond 1292 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,639 Speaker 1: the pale? Could I lose my web hosting privileges? Could 1293 01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,880 Speaker 1: I be kicked off of all these different platforms? Now, 1294 01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:44,799 Speaker 1: in the private sector, it's different, right, It's different because 1295 01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:49,160 Speaker 1: what you have are entities that are under the control 1296 01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,800 Speaker 1: of individuals, that are operating as businesses, that can make 1297 01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,880 Speaker 1: distinctions that aren't about. You know, you can get fired 1298 01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,240 Speaker 1: from your job for saying that your boss is a jerk. 1299 01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,920 Speaker 1: You can claim First Amendment per action. But the First 1300 01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:05,000 Speaker 1: Amendment only protects you from the government. And as I said, 1301 01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,960 Speaker 1: the left is trying to change that too, but the 1302 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:11,240 Speaker 1: first time and only protects you from what government action 1303 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,599 Speaker 1: is out there. And there is a much stronger case 1304 01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:18,160 Speaker 1: to be made on campus than a lot of leftists 1305 01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:22,600 Speaker 1: and progressives understand, because college campuses get money from the 1306 01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:26,200 Speaker 1: federal government. So even even private ones, this is what 1307 01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:29,679 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand. But for private private 1308 01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:33,080 Speaker 1: companies or even publicly held companies, but that are still 1309 01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:37,560 Speaker 1: private entity, they're not government entities. They have much more leeway. 1310 01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,200 Speaker 1: And this is one of the reasons I was so 1311 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,439 Speaker 1: concerned about Google, and I mentioned this to you earlier 1312 01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:45,879 Speaker 1: in the week. They have vast influence on the national 1313 01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:50,160 Speaker 1: conversation on a whole bunch of issues, a tremendous ability 1314 01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:55,080 Speaker 1: to sway the conversation to silence. In secret, I should know, 1315 01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,040 Speaker 1: all they have to do is bury search results and 1316 01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,240 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, no one sees that article that 1317 01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:05,880 Speaker 1: makes a great argument against some progressive Shibbalith right. All 1318 01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:09,880 Speaker 1: they have to do is take your website down, and 1319 01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:13,680 Speaker 1: then other people will think, well, I can't have a conservative, 1320 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:17,439 Speaker 1: you know, right wing website. Now I understand. To bring 1321 01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,920 Speaker 1: it back to what's happened here, white supremacists are on 1322 01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:25,000 Speaker 1: the very very fringe. They are the worst. Their ideas 1323 01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:30,640 Speaker 1: are hateful, They espouse evil principles and evil action. I 1324 01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,360 Speaker 1: am with all that, and it annoys me at some 1325 01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:38,040 Speaker 1: level that we live in a society where the Democrats 1326 01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:42,360 Speaker 1: are so politicizing on all these issues that they and 1327 01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,479 Speaker 1: they exploit them so much that even I have to 1328 01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,360 Speaker 1: sit here with you, my beloved audience, and say, well, 1329 01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:49,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, white supremacists are bad. You know, 1330 01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:53,120 Speaker 1: I hate white supremacists, and I know you hainte white supremacists. 1331 01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,519 Speaker 1: So there's why do we have to waste the time. 1332 01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:59,040 Speaker 1: But if some lefty out there is listening to the 1333 01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,280 Speaker 1: show and they did and I don't, I don't establish 1334 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,600 Speaker 1: repeatedly where I am, you know, then all of a 1335 01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:06,680 Speaker 1: sudden they come after me, or they come after the 1336 01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,639 Speaker 1: company that that I work for, or you know, this 1337 01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,479 Speaker 1: is just this is the way it is right now. 1338 01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:17,160 Speaker 1: So what what I'm raising the alarm about is not that. 1339 01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:21,240 Speaker 1: Oh look there, look I'm I'm a free speech absolutist 1340 01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,240 Speaker 1: when it comes to company. So they can't punish the 1341 01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:29,719 Speaker 1: daily storm, or they can't kick white nationalists off their platforms. No, uh, 1342 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:31,720 Speaker 1: they are, they are, they can do those things. I 1343 01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:36,520 Speaker 1: want everyone to understand that, especially with these major Internet companies, 1344 01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:40,920 Speaker 1: they're not public utilities. And these large public companies that 1345 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:47,160 Speaker 1: we see right now establishing how much they hate white supremacy. 1346 01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:52,519 Speaker 1: There are also large companies that were singling out uh, 1347 01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:56,599 Speaker 1: North Carolina for its bathroom law about transgender usage, and 1348 01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:02,840 Speaker 1: punishing the state for that, not neo Nazism, not you know, 1349 01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:07,479 Speaker 1: right wing extremist, fascist, whatever stuff they want to say, No, no, 1350 01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:13,400 Speaker 1: private companies, we're taking a stand and financially punishing a 1351 01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:16,320 Speaker 1: state and any individuals in the state that they could 1352 01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:21,040 Speaker 1: through this for thinking, for for telling people that you know, 1353 01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:22,920 Speaker 1: if you're a male and you think you're a woman, 1354 01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:24,880 Speaker 1: you can't use a bat you can't use a public 1355 01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:28,400 Speaker 1: accommodation bathroom with a twelve year old girl. That's just 1356 01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:30,400 Speaker 1: not the way this is going to go. They punish 1357 01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:34,439 Speaker 1: people for that. So understand that this power that they 1358 01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:39,880 Speaker 1: are marshaling for what is an obvious case of society 1359 01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:46,040 Speaker 1: denouncing and and and repudiating this is this is an 1360 01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:51,080 Speaker 1: extreme example because you're dealing with extremists here, but this 1361 01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:56,559 Speaker 1: same phenomenon of private companies that are punishing thoughts and 1362 01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:01,240 Speaker 1: ideas and suppressing them and expelling them. It's not just 1363 01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:05,280 Speaker 1: gonna be Nazis. Everybody, We've already seen it, so we 1364 01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:09,400 Speaker 1: should we should watch this and understand that the political 1365 01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:11,920 Speaker 1: fight that's playing out right now will have very real 1366 01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,800 Speaker 1: economic and financial implications, not just for the worst of 1367 01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,240 Speaker 1: the worst, not just for the neo Nazis out there 1368 01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,840 Speaker 1: all you know, five hundred of them in this country 1369 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,760 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. But it will be expanded as 1370 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:28,240 Speaker 1: well to include anti diversity speech or speech that questions 1371 01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:31,240 Speaker 1: are fromative action, or speech that questions they quote woman's 1372 01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:35,080 Speaker 1: right to choose I have an abortion. They will expand 1373 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,200 Speaker 1: this and this is going to this is the way 1374 01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:42,800 Speaker 1: they restore, by the way, the information advantage that the 1375 01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:47,559 Speaker 1: left enjoyed via the media for a few decades before 1376 01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,639 Speaker 1: conservative media via talk radio which is what you're listening 1377 01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:54,560 Speaker 1: to now, and Fox News and a few other avenues. 1378 01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:58,200 Speaker 1: The internet, most notably UH finally had a voice in 1379 01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,080 Speaker 1: If they can control all these Internet platforms and hosting 1380 01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:07,920 Speaker 1: servers and major Internet super companies, then they can restore 1381 01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:14,240 Speaker 1: that um information dissemination and suppression advantage that they had 1382 01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:17,320 Speaker 1: in the past. So this is a very, very very 1383 01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,559 Speaker 1: important issue. Don't think for a second that it's just 1384 01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:24,240 Speaker 1: going to be Nazis that get kicked off of their 1385 01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:28,320 Speaker 1: website and WordPress. No one's gonna stand up and defend Nazis. 1386 01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:31,759 Speaker 1: No one's gonna shed a tear because Daily Stormer lost 1387 01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:35,719 Speaker 1: its website. That's not the point. The point is that 1388 01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,400 Speaker 1: the same tactics and power that is being used here 1389 01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:45,840 Speaker 1: to punish neo Nazis has already been and will continue 1390 01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:51,120 Speaker 1: to be used to go after mainstream conservative viewpoints. Because 1391 01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:54,040 Speaker 1: one of the big efforts that is underway right now 1392 01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:59,000 Speaker 1: with Antifa and the progressive left is to convince people 1393 01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,800 Speaker 1: that mainstream conservatism, that Donald Trump and trump is m 1394 01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,680 Speaker 1: whether you think those things are related or not, Conservatism 1395 01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:10,880 Speaker 1: and Trumpism, that those are ideas, those are political movements 1396 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:15,679 Speaker 1: that are in fact fascist, And if they convince enough 1397 01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,960 Speaker 1: people that there is a there are fascist underpinnings or 1398 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:24,080 Speaker 1: a fascistic foundation for these conservative beliefs, then yeah, you 1399 01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:29,200 Speaker 1: are going to have mainstream conservatives under assault. You are 1400 01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,240 Speaker 1: going to have these companies punishing them, and I should 1401 01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:33,240 Speaker 1: just one more thing I want to know here in 1402 01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:38,439 Speaker 1: this discussion, you have this point of view that they 1403 01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,560 Speaker 1: should be allowed to do what they want, meaning the 1404 01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,799 Speaker 1: private companies here, the facebooks, that Uber's, the word press, 1405 01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:50,519 Speaker 1: the go Daddy. But at the same time, currently there 1406 01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:54,559 Speaker 1: are a lot of places in law and federal law 1407 01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,679 Speaker 1: where companies are not allowed to discriminate. But it's always 1408 01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:05,880 Speaker 1: about chosen identity groups. It's always about either ethnic, racial, gender, 1409 01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:12,400 Speaker 1: gender identity, uh, any number of different categorizations where you 1410 01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:16,439 Speaker 1: don't just get to say I have a private business, 1411 01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,720 Speaker 1: so I'm going to discriminate or I and so there 1412 01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:23,160 Speaker 1: are these laws in place. So because there are these 1413 01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:26,400 Speaker 1: laws that are already in place, how are we to 1414 01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:32,880 Speaker 1: think about a country in which the only acceptable prejudice 1415 01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:37,840 Speaker 1: based on employment law and based on federal regulations about 1416 01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:41,960 Speaker 1: hiring and everything else is against white males, or against 1417 01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:50,040 Speaker 1: Christians or against uh, you know, conservatives, Republicans. Why should 1418 01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,559 Speaker 1: they be left out? Why is it that you should 1419 01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:57,760 Speaker 1: be able to be protected from firing because you are 1420 01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:02,000 Speaker 1: a transgender individual? For example, which is a psychological it's 1421 01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,679 Speaker 1: a psychological position, it's a choice, right, it's a state 1422 01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:10,320 Speaker 1: of mind. But not for your closely held let's say, uh, 1423 01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:14,559 Speaker 1: Catholic beliefs. So you know, if if you're a Catholic 1424 01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,479 Speaker 1: and you won't engage in certain behaviors based on your employer, 1425 01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:20,439 Speaker 1: you know, and they decide to fire you, are you 1426 01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,519 Speaker 1: going to be protected? Yes? Or no? If you're a 1427 01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:25,800 Speaker 1: Catholic company that only wants to hire people who believe 1428 01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:30,800 Speaker 1: in traditional marriage and believe in pro life causes, and 1429 01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:34,280 Speaker 1: are you allowed to only hire people that agree with you? 1430 01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,880 Speaker 1: Or you know? This is the reality of the modern 1431 01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:40,320 Speaker 1: hiring environment and immigration, I mean not immigration and UH 1432 01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:44,000 Speaker 1: and employment law. And we need to keep an eye 1433 01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,559 Speaker 1: on how this is changing, and this has dramatic effects 1434 01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,200 Speaker 1: on the culture. All Right, we'll hit a quick break here. 1435 01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:51,360 Speaker 1: When I come back, I want to talk to you 1436 01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,960 Speaker 1: about how the a c. L. You might be getting 1437 01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,679 Speaker 1: a little weak on the whole notion of protecting speech. 1438 01:28:56,720 --> 01:29:00,639 Speaker 1: Stay with me. What does the progressive left ink of 1439 01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:04,880 Speaker 1: the First Amendment? Let me get a little more specific, 1440 01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:12,200 Speaker 1: what do modern intellectual progressives think about free speech? Do 1441 01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:17,040 Speaker 1: they believe in free speech you have seen as part 1442 01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:23,120 Speaker 1: of the Antifa movement across the country, numerous people, uh, 1443 01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:26,320 Speaker 1: countless people at this point. I mean, who knows thousands, 1444 01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:31,000 Speaker 1: tens of thousands who believe that hate speech is to 1445 01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:35,040 Speaker 1: be met with force, to be met with violence. And 1446 01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,599 Speaker 1: you even have people going on TV, most notably Chris 1447 01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:43,720 Speaker 1: Cuomo A you know, like the First Amendment is like 1448 01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:46,840 Speaker 1: a thing. And yeah, he's a lawyer by the way 1449 01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,920 Speaker 1: over at CNN, who doesn't who doesn't think that a 1450 01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:52,840 Speaker 1: hate speech is protected under the First Amendment. These people 1451 01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:57,200 Speaker 1: have forgotten a Supreme Court case that dealt specifically with 1452 01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:00,479 Speaker 1: the issue not just of hate speech, but not Zis 1453 01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:05,920 Speaker 1: in Skokie, Illinois. Uh, And it was neo Nazis who 1454 01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:09,559 Speaker 1: were going to be marching through or either they were 1455 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:13,960 Speaker 1: they were the technically the National Socialist Party of America. 1456 01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:18,000 Speaker 1: So there were Nazis they wanted in nine seven to 1457 01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:22,960 Speaker 1: march through a community in Skokie, Illinois, in which about 1458 01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:27,080 Speaker 1: a fifth or or so of residents was either a 1459 01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:33,200 Speaker 1: Holocaust survivor or a direct relative of one. And the 1460 01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:38,080 Speaker 1: A c l U in fact challenged the injunction that 1461 01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:40,080 Speaker 1: was put in place by a court and how to 1462 01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:44,000 Speaker 1: do whether this fell under fighting words. That's the that 1463 01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:47,160 Speaker 1: was the the legal term of art at the time. 1464 01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:51,200 Speaker 1: So the Supreme Court took that up, and sure enough 1465 01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:56,000 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court held that they could in fact march. 1466 01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:00,600 Speaker 1: So this is this has been long since settled that 1467 01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:05,040 Speaker 1: hateful speech bad speech, means speech is free speech, is 1468 01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:09,800 Speaker 1: covered under free speech. But this has been eroded recently 1469 01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:14,720 Speaker 1: on campus by this anti fag group and also by 1470 01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,040 Speaker 1: people in the media who seem to think that hate 1471 01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:20,320 Speaker 1: speech is outside the realm of what is protected under 1472 01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:23,280 Speaker 1: the First Amendment. But it's even more than that now 1473 01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:27,240 Speaker 1: because you have pressure on the a c l U, 1474 01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,720 Speaker 1: which is a leftist legal group as we all know, 1475 01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:36,000 Speaker 1: and it certainly treats Christians and Muslims differently. But traditionally 1476 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:39,920 Speaker 1: the a c l U has been near absolutist in 1477 01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:42,040 Speaker 1: what it is willing to defend in terms of speech. 1478 01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,400 Speaker 1: But now the a c l U is coming under 1479 01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:51,800 Speaker 1: direct assault from the left because the intersectionality view of 1480 01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:56,479 Speaker 1: American society, in essence, that everything in America comes down 1481 01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:59,840 Speaker 1: to your class, your race, your gender, and you cannot 1482 01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:04,160 Speaker 1: separate anything going on of any importance from those issues. 1483 01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:11,120 Speaker 1: The intersectionality approach which dominates progressive ideology now, which is 1484 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:17,000 Speaker 1: the ID, it is the center, the cortex of the 1485 01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:23,680 Speaker 1: Democratic Party at this point. Identity politics, intersectionality that is 1486 01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:26,559 Speaker 1: now coming into conflict with what had been the A 1487 01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:32,200 Speaker 1: c l use longstanding policy of being UH neutral when 1488 01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:37,800 Speaker 1: it comes to speech content and defending speech in almost 1489 01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,320 Speaker 1: all cases. Really, I mean that they were pretty close 1490 01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:43,559 Speaker 1: to absolutists on this, and sure enough in the New 1491 01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:47,920 Speaker 1: York Times, you have a professor no no shock there 1492 01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:51,839 Speaker 1: in critical race Studies at u c L A School 1493 01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,840 Speaker 1: of Law, which h U c l A Law school 1494 01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:57,000 Speaker 1: is a great school. That they have someone who is 1495 01:32:57,040 --> 01:33:02,360 Speaker 1: a critical race studies scholar is just indicative of how 1496 01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:07,200 Speaker 1: wasted many of our academic resources currently are. But this 1497 01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:11,639 Speaker 1: woman k Sue Park is her name, UH has written 1498 01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:15,960 Speaker 1: the following. For marginalized communities, this is the New York Times, everybody, Okay, 1499 01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,800 Speaker 1: this is in the biggest, one of the biggest newspapers 1500 01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:24,400 Speaker 1: in the country. For marginalized communities, the power of expression 1501 01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:27,960 Speaker 1: is impoverished for reasons that have little to do with 1502 01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:32,200 Speaker 1: the First Amendment. Numerous other factors in the public sphere 1503 01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:37,920 Speaker 1: chill their voices but amplify others. Most obviously, the power 1504 01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:42,560 Speaker 1: of speech remains proportional to wealth in this country, despite 1505 01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:46,040 Speaker 1: the growth of social media. When the Supreme Court did 1506 01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:49,559 Speaker 1: consider the impact of money on speech and citizens United, 1507 01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:54,519 Speaker 1: it enabled corporations to translate wealth into direct political power. 1508 01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:59,240 Speaker 1: The A. C. L. You wrongly supported this devastating ruling 1509 01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:05,240 Speaker 1: on First Amendment grounds. Uh, this is so, that's the 1510 01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:09,920 Speaker 1: end of the quote there. Uh, this is a an 1511 01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:13,960 Speaker 1: op ed in which a person who is a professor 1512 01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:18,519 Speaker 1: is writing that because of imbalances in society, we also 1513 01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:23,720 Speaker 1: have to now police imbalances in speech. And this is 1514 01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:29,120 Speaker 1: effectively affirmative action for free speech and the laws that protected. 1515 01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:33,719 Speaker 1: So there are groups, there are minority groups that need 1516 01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:38,559 Speaker 1: additional amplification of their voices, and so this has to 1517 01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:42,640 Speaker 1: be as a function of law. Now, this has to 1518 01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:46,400 Speaker 1: be an issue where you can't just say free speech 1519 01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:49,120 Speaker 1: is free speech. It has to be well, the speech 1520 01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:54,440 Speaker 1: of a black person should be elevated or uh, evaluated 1521 01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:57,960 Speaker 1: differently than the speech of a white male, than the 1522 01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:01,120 Speaker 1: speech of a Latino, than the speech you of a Uh. 1523 01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:02,640 Speaker 1: And you just go down the line of all and 1524 01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:06,080 Speaker 1: Latino versus white male, and women versus man and transgender 1525 01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:09,439 Speaker 1: versus heterosexual, and you just you go down the whole 1526 01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:13,400 Speaker 1: and I know transgender and heterosexual those are actually different categorizations, right. 1527 01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm always told this that trying or I read this 1528 01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:20,560 Speaker 1: that transgender does not mean uh, a person is attracted 1529 01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:23,240 Speaker 1: to one sex or the other. It's it's their gender identity. 1530 01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:27,439 Speaker 1: And a discussion for another time. Um. But here's what 1531 01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:29,880 Speaker 1: this OpEd continues with. The a c l U has 1532 01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:32,400 Speaker 1: demonstrated that it knows how to think about other rights 1533 01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:36,439 Speaker 1: in a broader context. It vigorously defends the consideration of 1534 01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:41,120 Speaker 1: race in university admissions, for example, even as conservative challengers 1535 01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:43,400 Speaker 1: insist on a color blind notion of the right to 1536 01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:47,599 Speaker 1: equal protection. So so this author, this op ed writer 1537 01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:52,040 Speaker 1: here is explicitly advocating for what I was just saying, 1538 01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:56,120 Speaker 1: which is an understanding of the First Amendment, that is 1539 01:35:56,720 --> 01:36:00,519 Speaker 1: a an extension of the thinking of affirmative action. So 1540 01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:04,439 Speaker 1: there will be imbalances based on there will be legal 1541 01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:08,960 Speaker 1: distinctions made about the imbalances between individuals and their quote 1542 01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:12,519 Speaker 1: power that will have to be regulated when we talk 1543 01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:16,519 Speaker 1: about free speech. This is really troubling, but you know, 1544 01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:22,320 Speaker 1: it shows you how quickly the left goes from Oh, 1545 01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:25,120 Speaker 1: we just want to regulate the worst kinds of speech 1546 01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:27,800 Speaker 1: on campus. Oh, we just want to prevent speech that 1547 01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:32,800 Speaker 1: triggers or that creates an unsafe space or two. Now 1548 01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:37,880 Speaker 1: it's well, actually the law needs to recognize that some 1549 01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:41,959 Speaker 1: people are in are some people are privileged in society 1550 01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:47,760 Speaker 1: over others, and so that should be affecting how free 1551 01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,880 Speaker 1: speech rights are protected or not. By the way, how 1552 01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:53,880 Speaker 1: this would even work, I don't know, except what it 1553 01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:58,800 Speaker 1: is is an excuse for censorship of predominantly what it 1554 01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:03,240 Speaker 1: would be is sensor ship of white males, conservatives, people 1555 01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:09,479 Speaker 1: with unpopular based on progressive standards, unpopular opinions, and it 1556 01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:12,160 Speaker 1: would be a legal tool to do that. This is 1557 01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:16,000 Speaker 1: just an excuse for censorship. This is racial grievance and 1558 01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:21,360 Speaker 1: victimology as the basis for making decisions about who gets 1559 01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:24,519 Speaker 1: to say what and when and how through the law. 1560 01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,120 Speaker 1: I should note, and the a c l U is 1561 01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:29,800 Speaker 1: getting pressure on this, and I'm not sure they won't cave, 1562 01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,960 Speaker 1: by the way, because with the left, it's all about 1563 01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:37,759 Speaker 1: power and the narrative, and the moment right now feels 1564 01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:41,080 Speaker 1: ripe for the left to just pounce and eliminate speech. 1565 01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:44,559 Speaker 1: If we don't have free speech as a universal concept 1566 01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:47,600 Speaker 1: for all people in this country. If we start making distinctions, 1567 01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,680 Speaker 1: we are no longer a free country. That's not an overstatement, 1568 01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:54,040 Speaker 1: it is a fundamental freedom. We are no longer a 1569 01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:56,080 Speaker 1: free country if this woman writing this op ed gets 1570 01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:59,080 Speaker 1: her way, Welcome back, Team Buck. You know I got 1571 01:37:59,120 --> 01:38:03,400 Speaker 1: my Team buck t shirt today. Oh yeah, actually I've 1572 01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:05,559 Speaker 1: got a few of them. I had to put in 1573 01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:08,840 Speaker 1: my own order because you know it all it all 1574 01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:12,240 Speaker 1: goes to the Freedom Hut and Freedom Huts operating expenses. 1575 01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:15,639 Speaker 1: So I've got Team Buck t shirts, I've got some 1576 01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:19,519 Speaker 1: shields high I've got Freedom Hut, and I'm gonna be 1577 01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:22,080 Speaker 1: posting some of that on social media. If you don't already, 1578 01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:24,960 Speaker 1: please do follow me on social media. You can do 1579 01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:28,080 Speaker 1: that on Facebook at facebook dot com, slash buck Sexton 1580 01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:32,840 Speaker 1: same just my name Bucks exton on Twitter, and also Instagram, 1581 01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:37,120 Speaker 1: where I post photos of myself doing stuff radio, TV, 1582 01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:40,760 Speaker 1: cooking and uh with Ms Molly. If any of you 1583 01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:43,960 Speaker 1: are curious, like who's Bucks girlfriend, Well, if you follow 1584 01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:48,799 Speaker 1: me on Instagram you'll certainly see uh. And I also 1585 01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:50,519 Speaker 1: would really love it if you go to buck Sexton 1586 01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:54,360 Speaker 1: dot com slash store which is where you can get 1587 01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:58,280 Speaker 1: all of the finest team buck gear. Uh. Speaking of 1588 01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,080 Speaker 1: photos of food I posted earlier today, I was very 1589 01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:05,320 Speaker 1: proud of this one. I made a a hash with 1590 01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:08,280 Speaker 1: diced sweet potato, so I had to get the dice 1591 01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:11,920 Speaker 1: sweet potato going. And then uh, I didn't have the 1592 01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:15,240 Speaker 1: charieso handy, which I really wished I had. But I 1593 01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:19,559 Speaker 1: had dice sweet potato and baked eggs and a side 1594 01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:23,280 Speaker 1: of bacon through little rosemary in there, used my cast iron, 1595 01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:26,439 Speaker 1: and really, I think did it did a fabulous job. 1596 01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:28,760 Speaker 1: I gotta say, I'm really getting into cooking, you know, 1597 01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:33,960 Speaker 1: it's it's funny. Winston Churchill was a painter. He was 1598 01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:37,559 Speaker 1: also well known for being a or should be better known, 1599 01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:40,639 Speaker 1: I think for being a prolific writer and while he 1600 01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:44,479 Speaker 1: was certainly of the aristocracy in the UK. Born in 1601 01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:48,000 Speaker 1: Blenheim Palace, and one of my all time favorite books, 1602 01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:51,720 Speaker 1: which I listed recently I think on a on a 1603 01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,559 Speaker 1: little tweet I put out or Facebook post about favorite books, 1604 01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:59,920 Speaker 1: is by the professor emeritus at Wesley University, William manchest 1605 01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,479 Speaker 1: Or uh. And it's one of a three volume series, 1606 01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:05,400 Speaker 1: although I don't think the third volume was ever finished. 1607 01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:09,599 Speaker 1: Because Manchester, I believe passed away called The Last Lion 1608 01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:13,800 Speaker 1: about Churchill's early life. That's really the first phase of 1609 01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:16,639 Speaker 1: his life. Um. But if you get into the next 1610 01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:20,400 Speaker 1: book in the series alone talks about how Churchill later 1611 01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:23,920 Speaker 1: on moved to chart Well and he loved animals. You 1612 01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:28,080 Speaker 1: get some of his best all time Churchill quotes, including 1613 01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:32,800 Speaker 1: that dogs, I'm sorry, Yes, dogs look up to you, 1614 01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:35,240 Speaker 1: Cats look down on you, but pigs look you right 1615 01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:37,760 Speaker 1: in the eye. He's just got some great stuff. He 1616 01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:40,519 Speaker 1: really loved animals, by the way. But he was a 1617 01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:45,920 Speaker 1: prolific author. He he really his father, Randolph Churchill, who 1618 01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:49,320 Speaker 1: was a syphalytic for one, which is rough. At least 1619 01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:53,400 Speaker 1: that's what it was. That's what's believed. Um, he was not. 1620 01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:55,720 Speaker 1: He did not have a good relationship with with young 1621 01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:58,720 Speaker 1: Winston and also was not good with the family finances. 1622 01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:04,479 Speaker 1: Jenny Churchill, Winston's American mother, was much closer to him 1623 01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:08,000 Speaker 1: and much more important in his life. But Winston had 1624 01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:12,360 Speaker 1: to write a lot to support his extravagant spending. You know, 1625 01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:14,479 Speaker 1: he it is true that he liked a glass of 1626 01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:18,640 Speaker 1: champagne with breakfast. You know, Winston liked to indulge he 1627 01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:21,040 Speaker 1: probably would have enjoyed the sweet potato hash that I 1628 01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:25,320 Speaker 1: made myself this morning. But Churchill, especially in some of 1629 01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:28,680 Speaker 1: his what he called black Dog Days, which was his 1630 01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:32,200 Speaker 1: reference to depression. I always think it's interesting too for 1631 01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:36,479 Speaker 1: those who don't don't ever think about this. You have 1632 01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:39,920 Speaker 1: some of these great historical figures, and we don't often 1633 01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:44,000 Speaker 1: hear about how they have and they have their own 1634 01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:47,280 Speaker 1: not just problems in life in terms of getting the 1635 01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:50,599 Speaker 1: positions they want or you know, winning a battle, losing 1636 01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:55,240 Speaker 1: a battle, but they have depression. They have emotional battles 1637 01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:58,040 Speaker 1: that they're fighting. And Churchill would refer to his black 1638 01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:00,519 Speaker 1: Dog days, and one of the way is that he 1639 01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:03,640 Speaker 1: dealt with black Dog days. One of the ways that 1640 01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:10,040 Speaker 1: he tried to manage his battles with depression was through painting. 1641 01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:13,400 Speaker 1: And I actually have a book of just all of 1642 01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:17,640 Speaker 1: Churchill's paintings, and I you know, he was good. I 1643 01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:21,519 Speaker 1: don't know if it would be remarkable were it not 1644 01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:26,080 Speaker 1: for the man who is perhaps best remembered for defeat, 1645 01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:28,960 Speaker 1: helping to defeat the Nazi menace and bring the US 1646 01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:31,439 Speaker 1: into World War two and standing up to Hitler and 1647 01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:34,760 Speaker 1: some of the greatest speeches and most notable quotes in 1648 01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:39,360 Speaker 1: all history. I believe Churchill, after the Bible and Shakespeare, 1649 01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:44,080 Speaker 1: is the third most quoted source in the English language. 1650 01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:48,479 Speaker 1: But for him, it was painting that was his escape. 1651 01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:52,840 Speaker 1: These days, I feel like I'm looking for my own 1652 01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:56,599 Speaker 1: ways to work on. I guess you'd call it a hobby, 1653 01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,360 Speaker 1: but I've never been much of a cook or a chef. 1654 01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:01,760 Speaker 1: I think chef might be too grandiose a term. But 1655 01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:03,920 Speaker 1: I've always loved food, as I'm sure many of you 1656 01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:07,280 Speaker 1: do too, And so cooking for me now is becoming 1657 01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:11,719 Speaker 1: a place where I am able to have some escape 1658 01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:14,920 Speaker 1: that's constructive. I'm getting a little better at it, you know, 1659 01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm working on my skills. I'm certainly nothing to write 1660 01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:22,639 Speaker 1: home about yet, but I'm getting better at it all 1661 01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:27,120 Speaker 1: the time. And I find myself trying to experiment with 1662 01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:31,200 Speaker 1: new techniques. And so Churchill had his watercolors, he had 1663 01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:35,400 Speaker 1: his painting at Chartwell, which was his rather expensive and 1664 01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:39,839 Speaker 1: extravagant country house, and I have in my own little 1665 01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:42,200 Speaker 1: my new apartment here in New York City, which is 1666 01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:45,120 Speaker 1: certainly neither. It may be expensive for me, it's definitely 1667 01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:48,719 Speaker 1: not extravagant by anyone else's standards. Um, I am finding 1668 01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:51,960 Speaker 1: that having a kitchen where I can actually cook instead 1669 01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:55,280 Speaker 1: of a a kitchen net where all I have available 1670 01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:59,439 Speaker 1: to me is a one burner or two burner stove, 1671 01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:02,439 Speaker 1: at that such a thing. I find that cooking is 1672 01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:03,760 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I think some of the next 1673 01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:07,360 Speaker 1: dishes I'm gonna try, I really want to master. My 1674 01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:09,800 Speaker 1: breakfast food is phenomenal. I could make any of you 1675 01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:16,559 Speaker 1: listening a goat cheese, a goat cheese English muffin breakfast 1676 01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:21,240 Speaker 1: sandwich with well, it's a scrambled eggs with goat cheese, 1677 01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,960 Speaker 1: of course, and a bit of chive and some hot sauce, 1678 01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:25,760 Speaker 1: and you'd be like, that's the best breakfast sandwich I've 1679 01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:28,240 Speaker 1: ever had. So I know what I'm doing on the 1680 01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:30,400 Speaker 1: breakfast side of things. I'm trying to expand a little 1681 01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:33,920 Speaker 1: bit beyond that. I've made some amazing steak because clearly 1682 01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:37,360 Speaker 1: the center of my diet is meat because America. I 1683 01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:41,160 Speaker 1: love America. I love meat. But I'm working. I'm gonna 1684 01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:45,400 Speaker 1: work on that's right reduction sauces, uh beans. He's going 1685 01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:49,200 Speaker 1: to work on the z o poiv fil de stiga 1686 01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:52,879 Speaker 1: pow if he's going to work on the Burblanc sauce, 1687 01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:57,360 Speaker 1: white butter sauce. Gotta love anything butter sauce or cream 1688 01:44:57,400 --> 01:45:00,559 Speaker 1: sauce tends to get me excited. Not particularly good for you, 1689 01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:03,040 Speaker 1: but so delicious. So that's the next phase for me 1690 01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:08,680 Speaker 1: doing reductions. I tend to I've had some mistakes in 1691 01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:10,960 Speaker 1: the past on this, so anyway, I'll keep you updated 1692 01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:14,760 Speaker 1: on my cooking adventures and maybe uh yeah, for me, 1693 01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:17,479 Speaker 1: I'd like to think of it as as I strap 1694 01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:20,240 Speaker 1: on an apron and get there, get it behind the 1695 01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:23,880 Speaker 1: stove for myself and Molly this weekend. That I'm like 1696 01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:26,439 Speaker 1: Churchill with his painting, you know, I'm I'm escaping the 1697 01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:28,760 Speaker 1: fight in the struggle of the day to day and 1698 01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:32,040 Speaker 1: spreading freedom and all the things I do here by 1699 01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:35,639 Speaker 1: searing some meat and roasting some Brussels sprouts and doing 1700 01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:37,519 Speaker 1: some of the other stuff I've got going. I hope 1701 01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:40,479 Speaker 1: you have your own way. I mentioned novels yesterday. I 1702 01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:44,920 Speaker 1: think novels are a fantastic escape. I'm I've turned back 1703 01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:48,320 Speaker 1: after really my twenties spent entirely on nonfiction. As I've 1704 01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:50,960 Speaker 1: told you, I started to read novels again, and the 1705 01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:55,000 Speaker 1: great novels the ones that everyone knows, but very few 1706 01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:59,280 Speaker 1: people have actually read, so cooking and novels these days. 1707 01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:01,920 Speaker 1: This is how I have void getting too depressed at 1708 01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:06,320 Speaker 1: the state of the political conversation in this country. As always, 1709 01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:10,120 Speaker 1: please do download the podcast Buck Sex In with America 1710 01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:14,519 Speaker 1: now on iTunes. 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So we'll have some news I'm sure to 1721 01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:46,880 Speaker 1: discuss and much more until then, team, Uh, make sure 1722 01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:49,400 Speaker 1: you make some time for you and your family that 1723 01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:53,320 Speaker 1: doesn't involve you know, internet and TV and all that stuff. 1724 01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:55,920 Speaker 1: I'll see tomorrow, night Shields High