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Speaker 1: Oh zoo. Welcome to the Ozone Podcast with Jaguars senior

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Speaker 1: writer John Osher.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome to this week's Ozone podcast, and now

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Speaker 2: I am joined this week by Matt Miller of ESPN.

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Speaker 2: I think most people who cover the draft and follow

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Speaker 2: this recognize you. Fourth year at ESPN, Yes, sir, after

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Speaker 2: time goes quick Man, ten years at Bleacher reporter for

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Speaker 2: a ESPN and now I feel really old.

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Speaker 3: Haven't put that map together?

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Speaker 1: Well, you're not old. I know that because I'm old.

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Speaker 2: So the first question, tell me about this year's draft.

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Speaker 2: You cover it from a broad perspective, you work on

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Speaker 2: it year round. Give me maybe two or three defining

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Speaker 2: characteristics of this draft as you think about it.

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Speaker 3: This is an offensive line defensive line draft. It's about

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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. Really, the defensive tackle group the

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Speaker 3: deepest maybe ever seen. Okay, we're gonna see thirty guys

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Speaker 3: in the top in this draft just a defensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: We might see thirty guys at defensive end and defensive

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Speaker 3: tackle in the top four rounds. So it's really deep there.

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Speaker 3: It's a good offensive line class, a lot of tackles

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Speaker 3: who may end up being guards in the NFL. But

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Speaker 3: I think we'll see excuse me, seven or eight first

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Speaker 3: round players on the offensive line. So this is year

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Speaker 3: Round one is gonna be dominated by the trenches. But

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Speaker 3: it's a good running back class. It's a good tight

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Speaker 2: And it's it seems the Jaguars in many people's opinion,

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Speaker 2: need line on both sides. When you say it goes deep,

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Speaker 2: if you get a guy in the fourth round, is

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Speaker 2: that immediate impact? Is that long term? How would you

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Speaker 2: describe maybe that middle round because you assume the first

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Speaker 2: couple guys are gonna be able to play, but this

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Speaker 2: team needs contributions deep.

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Speaker 3: I think this year where you can find those contributions

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Speaker 3: in round four, round five, especially at defensive tackle. It's

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Speaker 3: more about like your scheme right, Like they're gonna be

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Speaker 3: nos ackles in rounds four and five. Sure are coming

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Speaker 3: in start right away. You know, the premiere three techniques,

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Speaker 3: the six technique. Defensive ends, they're going to come off

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Speaker 3: the board much earlier because that pass rush ability. But

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Speaker 3: you're always able to like unearth some guys, players slip

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Speaker 3: through the cracks, or guys develop, you know, once they

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Speaker 3: get drafted. So this is it is a good year

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Speaker 3: to have those early Day three picks. I think that's

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Speaker 3: kind of where the drop off in this draft class happens.

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Speaker 3: This guy, Round five is where you probably hit the floor.

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Speaker 3: Unlike last year. It's a deep draft, right, Yeah, last

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Speaker 3: year was you know, really really deep as well. This

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Speaker 3: is another good year, especially in those middle rounds.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha.

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Speaker 2: James Gladstone on with the Jaguars as the new general manager.

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Speaker 2: Liam Cohne is new head coach, will stick to maybe

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Speaker 2: what the Rams do historically, because that's where James Gladstones

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Speaker 1: For Jaguars fans.

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Speaker 2: Who are going to be watching this, who are draft

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Speaker 2: knicks who sort of get into it close to the

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Speaker 2: level you do, what should they be watching for and

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Speaker 2: what has defined Los Angeles philosophical.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the days of not having first round

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Speaker 3: from that, and I think the philosophy that I picked

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Speaker 3: they are drafting players who were highly productive at major

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Speaker 3: under Trent Balky, Jaguar fans will remember it was all

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Speaker 3: So it was very traits based scouting, and I think

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Speaker 3: with Gladstone what you're going to see is traits still matter,

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Speaker 3: of course, but production matters as much as that. So

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Speaker 3: take Jared Vers and Braden Fiske their first two picks,

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Speaker 3: highly productive guys from one of the best defenses in

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Speaker 2: Now the opposite way that, because many teams go the

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Speaker 3: The absolutely is since where you know, the projection side

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Speaker 3: just think of the possibilities. Right. It's almost like a

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Speaker 3: you draft? For measurables over production? And I think that's

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Speaker 3: you know, they just draft highly productive, really good football players.

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Speaker 2: And I'm curious about the approach of the Eagles. For example,

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Speaker 2: monkey see monkey do league. They have historically gone line

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Speaker 3: That model, I do, I think, and especially in this draft,

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Speaker 3: that philosophy spread to some degree of let's invest in

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Speaker 3: You know, make sure you have the quarterback obviously, but

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Speaker 3: then once you have the quarterback, let's build up the

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Speaker 3: line of scrimmage and then you can then you can

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Speaker 1: Does that take some I guess willingness to not listen

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Speaker 1: to Twitter when you do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely takes patience, Yeah too, right, because it's

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Speaker 3: everybody wants, you know, the exciting new toy. Sure, Brian

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Speaker 3: Thomas is a great pick. Everybody wants that every year, right,

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Speaker 3: But you know, sometimes it's taken the right guard, you know,

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Speaker 3: they took a wide receiver. Now wide receiver was really good,

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Speaker 1: And their super Bowl losses have come when the line

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Speaker 3: So I think now you can, you know, objectively, point

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs are a dynasty, they're two super Bowl losses

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Speaker 3: I think you would want to go back to that

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Speaker 3: idea of let's resist the urge to get the shiny,

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Speaker 3: you know, fancy prospects. Let's build the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 2: Tell me who you believe Jaguars taking five, but more importantly,

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Speaker 2: make that happen.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, So we'll do a little mini mock drafts. Right, So,

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Speaker 3: I think one, Abdull Carter, if the Titans keep the

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Speaker 3: pick two, I'll say cam Ward to the Browns. Three

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Speaker 3: to the Patriots. So I would say Mason Graham the

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Speaker 1: Which seems to be if you look at eighty mock drafts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Travis Hunters there takes care, right. I know we've

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Speaker 3: been saying line of scrimmage, line scrimmage and scrimmage. He's

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Speaker 3: he's a different type of prospect, right, But Mason Grahm

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Speaker 3: So you get your three technique. A guy who never

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Speaker 3: loses on tape. Does he have fifteen sacks a year, No,

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Speaker 3: but he never loses, right, And in that way, he's

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Speaker 3: coming out he's a lot like Christian Wilkins was for

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Speaker 3: think if Mason Graham's there and those four players are

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Speaker 1: A couple of thoughts.

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Speaker 2: There is Mason Graham, the type everything you're hearing at

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Speaker 1: So he absolute fits what we're talking about.

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Speaker 3: A little bit short armed, you know, he's not he's

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Speaker 3: but he is a dominant. Player his ability to just

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Speaker 3: it's the guy who's setting those impact plays. Up, sure

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Speaker 3: and that was him Consistently. Michigan michigan doesn't let their

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Speaker 2: It now you kind of picked up something that you

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Speaker 2: know has been discussed in different. Places i've been around

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Speaker 2: the Combine Travis. Hunter even for a team like The

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Speaker 2: ups are talking about that being absolutely. Critical yet along

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Speaker 3: That, yeah and he. Is he's different because he fills

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Speaker 3: wide receiver and then some. CORNER i think that checking

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Speaker 3: we got a control line of scrimmage've got to build

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Speaker 1: Here take me.

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Speaker 2: Through just a couple of the defensive, tackle offensive. Line

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah so the defensive line GROUP i. DO i

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Speaker 3: Love Abdul carter And Mason. Graham they're both in my

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Speaker 3: top three players, overall so huge fans of what they.

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Speaker 3: DO i Like Walter nolan From ole miss a. LOT

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Speaker 3: i heard he won't be working out. Here i'm a

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Speaker 3: penetrator somebody that can go get after the. Quarterback he's a,

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Speaker 3: a good. Class Will campbell And Kelvin banks both started

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Speaker 3: one starters as true. Freshman Kelvin banks gave up three

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Speaker 3: sacks in three. Years, okay that's fascinating to. Me and

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Speaker 3: he's not being talked about as you, know people, say,

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Speaker 3: oh he's Not Joe, Old he's not been a school

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Speaker 3: and he's a pretty good. Player you, know three sacks

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Speaker 3: it's kind of been held against. Him but it is

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Speaker 3: a good tackle. CLASS i would throw Armand membo From

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Speaker 3: missouri in. There he's a right tackle who might end

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Speaker 3: up playing guard because he's a little bit under six foot,

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Speaker 3: Four but it Is it is a good offensive line.

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Speaker 2: Secondary is another area of The jaguars. Need it feels

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Speaker 2: like line is their priority and they have to figure

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Speaker 2: out how to address. Secondary how does that work throughout

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Speaker 3: Four, yeah it's not the deepest secondary. Draft it's really.

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Speaker 3: NOT i think at safety there's a little bit more

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Speaker 3: Three andrew mccooba From, Texas Billy bowman From, oklahoma they're

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Speaker 3: Starters they could be impact, guys especially at free. Safety

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Speaker 3: There Trey amos From Ole miss probably gonna be a

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Speaker 2: Bit got you final, question BECAUSE i could talk all

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Speaker 2: day to you about the. Draft wide Receiver Brian Thomas

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Speaker 2: junior is, there, obviously but it would be good for

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Speaker 2: this offense to be able to pick up one more

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Speaker 2: two or? Three can you find a guy like?

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Speaker 3: That you absolutely. CAN'T i think finding complimentary guys that's

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Speaker 3: where this wide receiver class is. Good maybe it doesn't

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Speaker 3: there's two guys From Iowa, State Jayden higgins And Jalen,

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Speaker 3: noel both to be very good complimentary. Players Jalen royles

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Speaker 3: athleticism underneath a guy who can make things. Happen after The,

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Speaker 3: Cats she's got a really, physical strong lower. Body it's

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Speaker 3: gonna give, you not to you, know give FANS, ptsd

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Speaker 3: but kind of Like Leviska chanlt you, know in terms of.

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Speaker 3: BUILD i think he's farther along as the receiver Than leavisco.

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Speaker 3: Was but this is a good. YEAR i think in

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Speaker 3: those day, two even early day three to get a

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Speaker 2: OUT i know fans hearing this are gonna want more

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Speaker 2: From Matt. Miller we can watch you ON espn to

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Speaker 2: get that.

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Speaker 3: Right they, can, yeah or check out articles ON espn dot.

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Speaker 3: Com will be putting those. Out feels like every day

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Speaker 3: between now and the draft there will be something.

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Speaker 1: Great job as, ALWAYS i appreciate you. Joining, Thanks thank

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Speaker 1: you body