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Speaker 1: the NFL report.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Joel, it is the NFL report. James Palmer,

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Speaker 2: Steve White with you. Steve. I'm fresh off of plane

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Speaker 2: from a Cowboys home game in Charlotte against the Panthers.

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Speaker 2: We have a stat show for you. We'll break down

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Speaker 2: They're going to Tim Boyle. Also, we'll talk with Mark

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Speaker 2: about all the hot seats that are around the NFL

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Speaker 2: after Week eleven, because there are several of them. We'll

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Speaker 2: also got boots on the ground on a Monday. Bridget

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Speaker 2: Condon was at that traumatic win for the Lions over

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Speaker 2: the Bears. We also have Jeff Chidia. It's a Monday,

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Speaker 2: so we're breaking down his first Reid column, Steve. But

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Speaker 2: it is a Monday, which means what bigger news absolutely JP.

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Speaker 3: But before we get to the week eleven, bigger news

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Speaker 3: My Alma monitor, the Howard Bison finally won the me

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Speaker 4: We're going to the Celebration Bowl. Baby, about time go

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Speaker 3: And on Tuesdays, my grandson Jeria's first birthday, JP, and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. It's just the warming of my heart.

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Speaker 3: You gotta be college week too, because your Buck guy's

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Speaker 2: I won't sleep all week, Steve, I will not sleep

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Speaker 3: All right, But as you said, it is a bigger

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Speaker 2: Steps it back both down. Hopkins in with kickings up

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Speaker 4: They weren't gonna make it easy on you.

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Speaker 3: And that is the Cleveland Browns with their late drive

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Speaker 3: JP Bigger news the Browns win with dt R at

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you, Steve bigger News Dorian Thompson Robinson.

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Speaker 3: He wolfed, gave the book dog Park the dog pod

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Speaker 3: Same thing I got to play back on a JP.

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Speaker 3: This is what we're seeing in the NFL this year.

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Speaker 4: Now, let's transition, because JP, you led.

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Speaker 2: From the twenty five playoffs. Young froze the ball second,

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Speaker 2: you give him four different offenses you somewhat work through.

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Speaker 2: You guys got a short week. Get ready for them.

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Speaker 2: See you on Thanksgiving. Appreciate That was the end of

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Speaker 4: In case, dan Quinn is going to be.

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Speaker 3: On the short list for a lot of head coaching

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Speaker 3: I'm Steve Whitch with James Palmer. We're now joined by

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Speaker 3: Bridget Condon, who got to see the Lions Bears the

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Speaker 3: Thriller this weekend. James, before we get to that game,

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Speaker 4: I gotta get your reaction. You're Alma mater James Madison.

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Speaker 4: This week the Dukes.

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Speaker 6: You can't ask me. You can't ask me about the Dukes.

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Speaker 6: I don't know in the ten games where we were unbeaten.

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Speaker 3: Now you got to bring it up after our long Yes, yes,

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Speaker 6: Tough, but I mean to have this level of success

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Speaker 4: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love that camp was down there in beautiful Harrisonburg.

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Speaker 3: But now let's get to the great game that you

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Speaker 4: The Chicago Bears. They win on a final drive.

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Speaker 3: Bridget what about that great finish for the Lions to

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Speaker 2: Well, see and James, I want to break it down.

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Speaker 2: As we saw bridget that video of Aiden Hutchinson kicking

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Speaker 2: what you're saying is exactly right to me. What stands

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Speaker 2: we've always said, oh, no, what is that play call?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bridget and I just want to get real quick,

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Speaker 6: hadn't have a touchdown with Tyson bagen In there. They

439
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Speaker 6: were moving into all the ball down the field. It

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Speaker 6: was I believe a third and what was it a

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Speaker 6: third and thirteen or third and fifteen, and he third

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Speaker 6: and fourteen and he took off for twenty nine yards.

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Speaker 6: He was mobile, he was comfortable, he was confident. He

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Speaker 6: was everything you want in a franchise quarterback. And I

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Speaker 6: think it's it's completely unfair to say that this game

446
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Speaker 6: was lost because of what Justin Fields did not do

447
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Speaker 6: out there.

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Speaker 2: I look at it, Steve, and I see a player

449
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Speaker 2: that came back after Tyson Baingit goes out there and

450
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Speaker 2: plays quarterback, and he comes back from the dislocated thumb

451
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Speaker 2: like I never left. Guys, this is my team. I

452
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Speaker 2: think that's the way he carried himself, and I think

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Speaker 2: that's the way I expected him to carry himself. Because

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Speaker 2: the biggest part of this is we all heard the

455
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Speaker 2: rapport from I and Rappaport coming on our show on

456
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Speaker 2: Sunday saying really that this is an audition for him

457
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Speaker 2: the rest of the season in terms of his future

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Speaker 2: as the Bears quarterback. I don't really get that. But

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Speaker 2: at the same time, if that's the case, who's really

460
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Speaker 2: making that evaluation, Steve is every other coach that has

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Speaker 2: a ability to potentially be the next head coach for

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Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears. Most likely the person making the decision

463
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Speaker 2: on Justin Field's future in Chicago is not employed by

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Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears right now, because that's going to be

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Speaker 2: the biggest part of the discussion that they have with

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Speaker 2: whatever coach they potentially bring in this offseason. I think,

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Speaker 2: Bridget that's a big part of what we need to

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Speaker 2: understand with this audition for Justin Fields.

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Speaker 6: Also, just real quick, I want to talk about the

470
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Speaker 6: healthiness of this Bears team right and talking to players

471
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Speaker 6: this week before the game, they all told me, we

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Speaker 6: believe in our ourselves. We believe we can shock the world.

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Speaker 6: They were looking around at all the players that they

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Speaker 6: didn't have. This was the first game, guys, this entire

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Speaker 6: season that all five starting offensive linemen were together, and

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Speaker 6: to see the time that justin fields had and the

477
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Speaker 6: way he was able to move. You have to wonder

478
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Speaker 6: how much of that has impacted the way the season

479
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Speaker 6: has gone and how much that can benefit him in

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Speaker 6: this team moving forward this season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, real quick, because we got of why I sent

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Speaker 4: it to you for the bump, JP.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be interesting if the guy making this evaluation

484
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Speaker 3: is the guy coaching against Your All the Mater this

485
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Speaker 3: weekend could possibly come into Chicago to be coaching the

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Speaker 3: quarterback who played at your.

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Speaker 4: All the matter olioll stay, I'm just saying. I'm just

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Speaker 4: saying taking the bump, get us out of here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do you just sayishing immediately week one in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. I'm not sure the NFL is going to

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Speaker 2: entirely allow that. There's a lot to play out, specifically

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Speaker 2: on Saturday the Playbuck guys, you and the WA Marines

493
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Speaker 2: Bridget appreciate it as always coming up on the NFL report,

494
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Speaker 2: that man right there, Zach Wilson is no longer the

495
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Speaker 2: starting quarterback for the Jets. We'll break that down with

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Speaker 2: Mark Ross about quarterback changes. We'll behind the curtain in

497
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Speaker 2: the building. Also some coach hot seats. We're gonna break

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Speaker 2: down everything with Mark Ross in the NFL Report. Coming

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Speaker 2: up next, Welcome back into the NFL Report, James Palmer,

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Speaker 2: Steve Weisch with you. We also are joined by Mark Ross,

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Speaker 2: with one of the best backgrounds in all of NFL

502
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Speaker 2: Network talent analysis. It's one of my favorite to look at. Mark.

503
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Speaker 2: I love it. And we have a quarterback change with

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Speaker 2: the New York Jets. I got a text from inside

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Speaker 2: the building this morning. I just feel so bad for

506
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Speaker 2: our defense, which is essentially an analysis of I don't

507
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Speaker 2: know where we go from here as an offense. Literally

508
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Speaker 2: that happened this morning, essentially telling us I don't know

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Speaker 2: where we go with our offense. They move on from

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Speaker 2: Zach Wilson as of right now, we'll see to Tim Boyle,

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Speaker 2: I want your take on the change. What goes on

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Speaker 2: the building when a change like this happens and the

513
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Speaker 2: other side of it. Do you just tell Aaron Rodgers

514
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Speaker 2: to get healthy and not rush back now that this

515
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Speaker 2: is where you stand.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's always been a hope, right Aaron Rodgers the

517
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Speaker 7: beginning of the year. The hope then it was this

518
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Speaker 7: guy's gonna miraculously recover from the Achilles. But yeah, with

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Speaker 7: the Zach Wilson situation. I mean, they just had to

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Speaker 7: make a change for the sake of making change. And

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Speaker 7: it's not as if Tim Boyle, we think, is going

522
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Speaker 7: to have some sort of Joshua Dobbs of magic in

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Speaker 7: him to go save the scene. I mean, you're basically

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Speaker 7: just going from the frying pan into the fire from

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Speaker 7: Zack Wilson and Boil. So I think you're just going

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Speaker 7: to see even more struggles from that offense, and the

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Speaker 7: defense will just have to fight through. You know, maybe

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Speaker 7: there'll be some one game pooling misdirection sort of out

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Speaker 7: gain planning people, but just the mental state of getting

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Speaker 7: Zach Wilson out of there and putting somebody else in

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Speaker 7: there or the team might just be a win. You know,

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Speaker 7: that's the tough part. When you're struggling. The team knows

533
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Speaker 7: you're struggling, the fans are all upset, and even the

534
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Speaker 7: front office is looking like what's going on here? But

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Speaker 7: you know, Robert Sawa, to his credit, he was loyal

536
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Speaker 7: to the guy. He tried everything he could, and then

537
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Speaker 7: Zach Wilson tripped over himself and then he fell down

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Speaker 7: in the sideline and took Sala with him.

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Speaker 2: Rick kind of fitting there.

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Speaker 4: Know that happened.

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Speaker 7: So, yeah, this haven't already done for the mentality of everybody.

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Speaker 3: Mark just fifteen seconds and I got another one for you.

543
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Speaker 3: But the Jets have to draft a quarterback next year.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we don't know Aaron Rodgers, he comes back

545
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Speaker 3: into one year deal. Zach Wilson clearless he's done with him.

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Speaker 3: Is Joe Douglass a general manager? Is he the guy

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Speaker 3: who should get the opportunity to do that because of

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Speaker 3: the Zach Wilson scenario.

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Speaker 7: Hey, look, I never want anybody to lose their job.

550
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Speaker 7: I never want anybody to have their place. But yeah,

551
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Speaker 7: he had his chance. I mean that's a Zach Wilson thing.

552
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Speaker 7: And the bomb the owner of the team, Like, here

553
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Speaker 7: was your chance, You had all these guys you could

554
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Speaker 7: have chose from here was the direction of the team.

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Speaker 7: This is the guy you chose. It was an epic failure.

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Speaker 7: Why would I trust the guy to do that again? So,

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Speaker 7: and you know we've seen it unfortunately with the Jets

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Speaker 7: over and over, Sam Don, Mark Sanchez, now Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 7: I mean, this is just one after another. Then Aaron

560
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Speaker 7: Rodgers comes in, the saber gets hurt, So feel bad.

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Speaker 7: For being a Jets fan right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's talk about transition in seasons now, because

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Speaker 3: we know some coaches general.

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Speaker 4: Managers are on the green mile, meaning in penitent and

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Speaker 4: penitentiary terms.

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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, that's not it's not gonna end well,

567
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Speaker 3: but it's it's a situation where you've been there, right,

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Speaker 3: You've been there with the Eagles, you've been there with

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Speaker 3: the Giants.

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Speaker 4: You've been in a building where things are not going

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Speaker 4: to end well.

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Speaker 3: So let's go scenario, the Frank Reich scenario in Carolina

573
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Speaker 3: gets a gets a top pick as a rookie quarterback,

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Speaker 3: it's been a total disaster and he's got an itchy

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Speaker 3: fingered owner and David Tepper, I mean kind of kind

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Speaker 3: of walking through your experience on how this could play out.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so Steve, as you mentioned, look, all changes are different.

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Speaker 7: There's not one cut in dry scenario of these changes

579
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Speaker 7: and why you do it. The first time I went

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Speaker 7: through was nineteen ninety eight Raid Roads, and we went

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Speaker 7: through Bobby Hoying. He was a savior and then we

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Speaker 7: had he couldn't get it done, Rod d p boy Dedmer.

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Speaker 7: The second time I went through was with Ben mcadin

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Speaker 7: with the Giants, and you know, he lost the team

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Speaker 7: even after the first year making the playoffs. That kind

586
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Speaker 7: of got a little frazzled on him. The epic benching

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Speaker 7: of Eli which led to a lot of things, specifically

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Speaker 7: now with Frank Reich. When you look at it where

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Speaker 7: they had the top pick, you crad up to get

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Speaker 7: the top pick. We're talking about trusting Joe Douglas to

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Speaker 7: make the choice again. Do we trust Frank Wright to

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Speaker 7: develop Bryce Young? You know? Do we trust what's going

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Speaker 7: on this year? And when I look at the Panthers,

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Speaker 7: you know, they just they're just not competitive. I mean,

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Speaker 7: that's when you weak in and week out. And Bryce

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Speaker 7: Young looks like he's never played football before. And that's

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Speaker 7: really what the most disheartening part about when you watch

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Speaker 7: that team is, there's just no glimmers of hope. There's

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Speaker 7: nothing you're really hang in your hat on. They don't

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Speaker 7: look prepared, they don't look competitive. To me, that's really

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Speaker 7: the most glaring part of it is just how bad

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Speaker 7: they look. And even coming into it, I thought they

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Speaker 7: would look decent with Right and Caldwell and Thomas Brown,

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Speaker 7: I thought they put together a nice little group and

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Speaker 7: it just all has sort of fallen apart, and to me,

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Speaker 7: that's the signal of a lack of confidence and everything

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Speaker 7: that's going on.

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Speaker 2: And consistency is always a part of these things, right Mark,

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Speaker 2: You want to see if there's a consistent plan in

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Speaker 2: place and that they stick with it, and that's kind

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Speaker 2: of been the opposite in Carolina with how many changes

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Speaker 2: that they have been through throughout this entire process. It's funny.

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Speaker 2: In the earlier portion of the show, Steve and I

614
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Speaker 2: are breaking down what's bigger news between Ken Dorsey getting

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Speaker 2: fired and the Bills bouncing back the next week, or

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Speaker 2: Thomas Brown getting relieved of his play calling duties as

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Speaker 2: the offenseve coordinator in Carolina. It's kind of funny when

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Speaker 2: you look at the early portion of Josh Allen's career,

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Speaker 2: how patient that organization was with his development and how

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Speaker 2: patient they were as a staff letting that grow, and

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Speaker 2: this kind of seems a little bit different. Let's move

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Speaker 2: on to a head coach in Brandon Staley that has

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Speaker 2: been in place for some time and then had one

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Speaker 2: of those press conferences. We always kind of look back

625
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Speaker 2: at this past Sunday, Elsie, roll this, roll this clip

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Speaker 2: real quick.

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Speaker 8: I have full confidence. Like I've told you, and like

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Speaker 8: I told you from the beginning, I have full confidence

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Speaker 8: in our way of playing, full confidence in myself is

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Speaker 8: the play caller and the way that we teach and

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Speaker 8: the way that we scheme. Full confidence in that we

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Speaker 8: got to bring this group together and do it consistently. Okay,

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Speaker 8: And that's where it's at. So you can stop asking

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Speaker 8: that question. Okay, I'm going to be calling the defenses. Okay,

635
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Speaker 8: so we're clear, so you don't have to ask that again.

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I just I do really want that question

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Speaker 2: asked the next week. I just want somebody to have

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Speaker 2: the stones to ask that question the next week. Mark

639
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: this the situation. And again I don't want to talk

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Speaker 2: about guys jobs, but I look at the situation that

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Speaker 2: that the Chargers are in. This is the one that

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Speaker 2: we're talking about that has a franchise quarterback. It has

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Speaker 2: a young offensive mind in Kellen Moore there running the

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Speaker 2: offense on that side. Speed one of those situations where

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Speaker 2: you give a young potential head coach a go if

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Speaker 2: you're looking in that direction, maybe for a little audition possibly.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, yeah for sure.

648
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Speaker 7: And we talk about consistency with Stanley and what have

649
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Speaker 7: the charges shown consistently that they can't win games and

650
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Speaker 7: finish out games. That's really been the issue there. And

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Speaker 7: again I talk about things that are glaring when you

652
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Speaker 7: start getting into it with with reporters like that. That's

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Speaker 7: one of those end of the road sort of situations like,

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Speaker 7: oh man, I'm getting tense and you better handle the

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Speaker 7: media as you guys know the right way once you

656
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Speaker 7: start doing that.

657
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Speaker 2: That reminded me of a couple of years.

658
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 7: Ago with Joe Judge and with New York, where all

659
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 7: indicators were that they were going to get capt and

660
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 7: then all of a sudden he just started having these

661
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 7: meltdowns and these press conferences and started going at reporters

662
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 7: and attacked reporters and it just got it just started

663
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 7: filing downward on him. That looks like to me, what

664
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Speaker 7: that reminded me of. Now, see if he'll write the

665
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 7: ship next week the way he talks about it. But

666
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 7: that situation about all these situations, everybody's going to try

667
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 7: to get that job. You got usin Herbert there, You've

668
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 7: got to everybody's trying to get that one. So that's

669
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Speaker 7: going to be different than other situations where man what

670
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 7: do we really have here, because everybody's want to coach

671
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 7: coach that team, and yeah, you know if Kellen Moore

672
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 7: give him an audition or not. But once the season

673
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 7: is over, that thing is going to be a hot job.

674
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not.

675
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: You know, the Chargers don't fire coaches mid season. So

676
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 3: Brandon Stale's gonna be able to finish out things here.

677
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 3: And the guy's a good coach, he's just for whatever reason,

678
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 3: it's not be able to get through. Now here's a

679
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: different scenario, Ron Rivera. In Washington, there was an ownership change,

680
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 3: and almost always within a year or so, there's some

681
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: type of change with the head coach. Ownership wants to

682
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: get grounded. We know the resurrection job that they had

683
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: to do as an organization in Washington. Ron Rivera even

684
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: came out on Monday morning he said he hasn't met

685
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 3: with ownership in a while, he doesn't know his future there.

686
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: What about that scenario, because I do think the expectation

687
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: is that there will be change all the way through

688
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: now that ownership has kind of made it to this

689
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Speaker 3: point this season.

690
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 7: Yes, Steve, you talk about going through things when people

691
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 7: stop talking to you in the building, that's a bad side.

692
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 7: Whatever the owners in their office talking to you all

693
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 7: the time, the gim everything's good. When people are hiding

694
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 7: behind those rooms and not talking to you, that's when

695
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 7: like every mind getting my resume ready. So I think

696
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 7: with Ron Rivera and even all those coaches, personnel guys

697
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 7: GM there in Washington.

698
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 4: I was down there for the network.

699
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 7: During training camp, where even then they knew the importance

700
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,959
Speaker 7: of winning because of the new ownership in there. They

701
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 7: we kind of had this. I had discussions. There were

702
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Speaker 7: some guys even then that yes, we got to win,

703
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 7: like all this new owner, Dan Schneider's gone and all

704
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 7: this new stuff we've got going on, but it boils

705
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 7: down to winning, and that kind of I think added

706
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 7: even more pressure to the situation of Okay, we're not

707
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 7: going to have a little honeymoon year. This guy's coming

708
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 7: in here, he's coming from, you know, different philosophy of

709
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 7: doing things. He's looked at in a very positive light

710
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 7: as an owner. He's not going to kind of let

711
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 7: that go downhill, be holding on to somebody that number

712
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 7: one of the fans don't like and that you don't

713
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 7: see the results on the field. So I think for

714
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 7: Ron Rivera and that whole staff, and people have to

715
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 7: remember Steven James. It's not just a head coach. You

716
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 7: keep hearing about the.

717
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 4: Head coach, the head coach of all these even changes.

718
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 4: This is entire coaching staff.

719
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, personnel group being you don't you never know who's

720
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 7: going to be, you know, fall with all of this.

721
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 7: So it's a lot of people that are in stake

722
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 7: when you just hear one name. But I think there

723
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 7: in Washington, it's just time for reset and new owners

724
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 7: that that's just the right time for him putting his

725
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 7: mark on what's going on there.

726
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: Mark, Mark, I love that you said that, because what

727
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about right now, and this is just kind

728
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: of has come to me as we're having this discussion,

729
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: is Eric the enemy comes in and gets his first

730
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: chance to really be the guy as a play caller

731
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: and run his own offense. Thomas Brown with the Carolina

732
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: Panthers had his first opportunity to really be the guy

733
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: when things were handed over to him. And now you

734
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: look at the situation that both of those offensive minds

735
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: are in what happens or what do you do when

736
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: you're kind of in that spot where you're not the

737
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: head guy, but also your future. Now after a very

738
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: quick pull or a very quick experience maybe over where

739
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 2: how do you reset?

740
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Speaker 7: What do you do?

741
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

742
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 7: Fortunately, look, we could do a whole other segment on here. Yes,

743
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 7: they're like, yeah, seem at the end that's the point. Yeah,

744
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 7: but you know, going into what I think, Eric the

745
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 7: Enemy knew the stakes going into it, and like, I'm

746
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 7: going to make it work. And really, even up to

747
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 7: a couple of weeks ago, you're like Sam how Lean

748
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 7: the league and passing and you know, all these positive

749
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 7: things about Sam Al then they have those six turnovers yesterday,

750
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 7: it's like, get up, get all these people up out

751
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 7: of here.

752
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 4: He's not the guy.

753
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 7: Eric the Enemy can't coach anymore. So that's again with

754
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 7: the ownership or whoever, if there is a new head

755
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 7: coach has to evaluate whether he's the guy. But despite

756
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 7: everything Eric the Enemy is going through now once again

757
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 7: it's well, oh you know what you got, you got

758
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 7: your chance. Now this is not really productive or exactly

759
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 7: a coaching materia hill. And that's just day by day,

760
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 7: week by week, what Eric Bienemy has to go through.

761
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 7: And yeah, I wish we could talk about this some more.

762
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 7: James and Steve.

763
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 4: But well, that's really a no win situation he got.

764
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, oh, we will, no, no, I will.

765
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this is off of the situation that

766
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 3: black assistant coaches and the ones who get the chance

767
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: to be coordinators find themselves in. They come into dubious situations,

768
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: tend not to get the patience factor. Like you talked

769
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: about with Buffalo what they did. They're trying to develop

770
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 3: the quarterback. They're out and you don't hear about him again.

771
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: I mean with Frank Bright he to Thomas Brown.

772
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 4: By taking the play calling away from him in three games.

773
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 4: Thomas is very very rare.

774
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 3: He's probably not gonna get an offensive coordinator opportunity again

775
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 3: if if you know, they get let go in Carolina

776
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 3: and we're.

777
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: Gonna real and Steve that situation, that situation is being

778
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: talked about outside of just Tom Oh. Yeah, like that

779
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: is a that is a conversation and other buildings right now.

780
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: What happened there?

781
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Okay, I'll go on that note.

782
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: Stay tuned for another NFL report at a later date

783
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: because we're gonna circle back on this subject. And Mark,

784
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 3: we appreciate all your experience are we're doing on Mars.

785
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 3: As you've helped, We'll come back real quick. Gull let

786
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: you unfortunate. Mark got to let you go because.

787
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 4: We are out of time. But coming up next to

788
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 4: the NFL Report.

789
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: Jalen Ramsey's return to the Dolphins has been absolutely spectacular,

790
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: and Jeff Chadea will join us on his first Read

791
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 3: segment to explain why the Dolphins should be thankful for that.

792
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: Next on the NFL Roup, Welcome back into the NFL Report.

793
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: This is my favorite Monday segment because it happens every

794
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: Monday and we always get into it with Jeff. For

795
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 2: Jadea and his first Read segment, I'm always waiting, like

796
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: Monday morning, what is this? What is this piece going

797
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: to be about? Jeff? And this one is completely different

798
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: than all the other ones you've done. This is thirty

799
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 2: two teams. What are they most thankful for? I'm not

800
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: sure if I follow the correlation about why you did this,

801
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: but nevertheless, thanks killing things are thankfully for? He yeah,

802
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: I got it.

803
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 4: Hold on, hold up, Jeff, that that's at Ohio State.

804
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 4: That's an Ohio State rationale.

805
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: Hey show here, that's shit it I can't believe the

806
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 2: original Jeff and I have a tremendous relationship. Yeah, well, yeah,

807
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: we'll get it. We'll get into it privately, Jeff. One

808
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: of them that jumped out at me right away was

809
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: what the Jacksonville Jaguars are most thankful for, and that's

810
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 2: running back Travis Etn Now, this is this is interesting

811
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: to me because I think he's playing like one of

812
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 2: the best running backs in football. They continue to use

813
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: him in a variety of ways in the screen game

814
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 2: he's shown at times. Specifically, I think of that Bill's

815
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: game in London where he's been a physical back at

816
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: times that some people may be questioned. But to me, Jeff,

817
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: it's like you didn't take Trevor Lawrence as what they're

818
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: most thankful for. Run me through your decision making on this,

819
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 2: because I find it fascinating. Well, I'm not all in on.

820
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawree as a superstar quarterback yet he'd be the

821
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: easy pick because he's the big name of the first

822
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: overall pick, but he still has some work to do

823
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: to get up to that Patrick Mahons, Josh Allen, Joe

824
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: Burrow level.

825
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: He's kind of right.

826
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: Where Justin Herbert is in terms of playmaking for me.

827
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: But ATM has been a revelation. You know that this

828
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: year in the past, remember when irbin Meyer thought he

829
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: should be a receiver when he came into the league.

830
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: And what you're saying, the guy tackles, why again, be

831
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: versatile and do different things.

832
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: You ain't catch the ball.

833
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: But he's on Florida tent hundred yards. Yeah, well he's

834
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: on pay for sixteen hundred total yards. And to me,

835
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: he's the most dynamic weapon they have. I thought that

836
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: would be Calvin Ridley this year, but it's turned out

837
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 1: to be Traps eighteen.

838
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 3: And remember he's coming off of all of a foot injury,

839
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 3: so I mean, what he's doing is is absolutely fantastic.

840
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 4: Jeff, I love this column. I mean, I think you

841
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 4: really hit some great points.

842
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: And one thing.

843
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: The Giants and this is an intriguing conversation because you

844
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 3: said that he should be thankful for Daniel Jones in

845
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 3: his four year, one hundred and sixty million contract.

846
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 4: Explain that because a lot of folks are going to

847
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 4: be like, huh.

848
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, well most people don't realize that eighty million bunchs

849
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: of that contract is guaranteed the first couple of years

850
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: and you get past twenty twenty four, and it's they

851
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: can walk away from this pretty easily, and so it's

852
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: they're a situation now they start thinking about their next quarterback,

853
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: and it's clear that Daniel Jones, while he's been a

854
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: guy who's been able to do some some solid work

855
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: there and it certainly resurrected himself last year with Brian Dayball,

856
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: he's not the long term answer. So I fully expect

857
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: them to have a top five pick in this in

858
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: this upcoming draft, I expect them to look at quarterbacks

859
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: and I expect them to be gone in a couple

860
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: of years. I mean, it's really a great setup for

861
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: them because they can actually have him be a bridge

862
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: like Alex Smith was in Kansas City with Patrick Mahomes

863
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: and let another guy learn and develop until he's ready

864
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: to play.

865
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 3: Well, Jeff, here's the other thing. We don't know if

866
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 3: he's going to be able to play next year. I mean,

867
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: he's his neck injury. He's got some mystery behind it.

868
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: So that's another aspect of it as to why they've

869
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: got to go get a quarterback in the draft.

870
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,959
Speaker 2: Yep, it's a great point.

871
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: And so there's a lot of things that leads you

872
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: to believe that he's not gonna be there, and I know, look,

873
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: I don't want to put it all on Daniel Jones

874
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: because the offensive line has been awful, they haven't a

875
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: guy in weapons, But end of the day, we all

876
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: know the quarterback takes the brunt of the responsibility and

877
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: accountability when things.

878
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 2: Aren't going well, So he's got to wear this one. Unfortunately.

879
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 2: Let's move on to another team where we always talk

880
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: about their offense and what the Miami Dolphins do with

881
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: all of these pieces and Mike McDaniel. But I think

882
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: quietly Vic Fangio is finding his ground with this defense.

883
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 2: And we've talked about maybe guys like Bradley Chubb the

884
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: second half of this year making a step and what

885
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: they've been able to do. And then it's the return

886
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: of Jalen Ramsey. That's who you say the Miami Dolphins

887
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: should be most thankful for. And I think in this

888
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 2: very small sample sized sense he returned from the injury.

889
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: I think you're spot on in a sense, but it

890
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: probably goes a little deeper than just what we've seen

891
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: in terms of picks.

892
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like they would have been a better

893
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: defense by now if he had played all year long

894
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: and when he had that knee surgery back and it

895
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: started the season, and it was what's going to happen

896
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: to this team, that defense they brought into the ango.

897
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: They were expecting him to be a big part of

898
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: the secondary. But I gave him credit for the way

899
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: he worked to get back, the way he rehapped, and

900
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: then the way he's comeback. He was supposed to be

901
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: an impact player. He's had three picks in three games.

902
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: Obviously a huge play there at the end of the

903
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: Raiders game to steal that win. And to me, like

904
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,959
Speaker 1: people are sleeping on the Miami defense. They were gready

905
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: to start. But when they get all their pieces back

906
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: together and Jalen Phelps is rushing the pass and Bradley

907
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: Chubb and these guys on the back end, they could

908
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: be a lot more dangerous and stop the presses.

909
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: They might start beating winning teams they don't play no.

910
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: I know what I'm fighting for. But the other part

911
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 2: of it, the other part of his jet. I mentioned

912
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 2: vic Fangio, and we've seen when he has top tier

913
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: corners and what he can do in terms of what

914
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: he wants to do defensively, I'd like to see them

915
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: have a couple of games where you where you mentioned

916
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: beat good teams, where they win, where they win a

917
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: game because of their defense. I mean, you look at

918
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: that game against the Chiefs and what they were able

919
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: to do against that chief Chiefs offense. You'd like to

920
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 2: see them win a game because of this defense, just

921
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: to show that they're more complete. Well, I'll tell you what.

922
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: You really raise a good point here because look at

923
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: what the AFC is trending right now with Joe Burrow

924
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: being gone for the season, Deshaun Watson's gone for the season,

925
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's had turnover problems, or Chiefs haven't been able

926
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: to get their offense going to a high level. Having

927
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: a defense like this, with Jener Ramsey playing the way

928
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: you're playing, We're gonna see a lot more low scoring

929
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: games in the postseason, a lot more teams relying on

930
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: their defense. And I feel like Fic Fangio again at

931
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: Jena Ramsey just underrated what they've been able to do.

932
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: They are bruck there for a recent They knew they

933
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: could score points, they knew they could be high flying

934
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: with Tyreek Hill and two one of all those guys,

935
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: But to win a championship.

936
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 2: You got that happen on the other side of the football,

937
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: and they are going. They're getting there in a hurry.

938
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: And I love the fact that Vic Fangio is using

939
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 3: him a lot on the outside. I mean with la

940
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 3: he was mainly in the slot. He's being played out

941
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 3: wide a lot. But Jeffy, you just talked about great defense.

942
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 3: Is in a team that's figured that part out is

943
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: the San Francisco forty nine ers, and you said they

944
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 3: should be thankful for their depth.

945
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 4: Of course, we stay added to by making the trade

946
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 4: for Chase Young. Explain that part.

947
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 2: Well, depth and health.

948
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: Really, I mean, because they are a team that look,

949
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: I know, they went through their three game losing streaking

950
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: and was lait to watch, and there are a lot

951
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: of questions that popped up about Rock Party and Steve

952
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: Wilkes and all these things be on the sideline being

953
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: the booth. They're the best team in football when they're right.

954
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: And so they've gotten key players back into the folds

955
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 1: with Deebo Trent, when Williams Christian McCaffery has gotten healthier,

956
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 1: and then obviously Steve Wilks has gotten that defensive win again.

957
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: But when you're able to go add guys like Chase

958
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: you under the mix. It's clear that John Lynch, the

959
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: general manager, looks at this as this is an all

960
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: or nothing type season. We've got a great opportunity here

961
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: with a young it is a young, cheap quarterback to

962
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 1: work with. Here, Let's go all in and make this work.

963
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: And I love where they're at right now because I

964
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: can see them overtaking Philadelphia the second half of the

965
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: season and getting back to the top top seed in

966
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: the playoffs soon.

967
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: Lizen, I love, I love, I love this, this, this

968
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: style of format on this you know this week's column, Jeff,

969
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 2: but we didn't have the moving MVP portion at the

970
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: bottom of the columns Steve and I absolutely love so

971
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 2: my boy is after his after his perfect quarterback raining.

972
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: Oh boy, get it. Does brock Purty throw himself to

973
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: the top of your list? This is like, what do

974
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 2: you have like one hundred and forty eight Last week

975
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 2: he has undred and fifty eight. This week he's got

976
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 2: four over one hundred and forty and seventeen starts. I

977
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: think he really hasn't even in the three game stretch.

978
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: A couple of throws he'd like back. But as a

979
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: whole Is he at the top of your MVP list?

980
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 2: Just say it, Jeff, And then took last week with

981
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: Steve they trying to give me talk about is his MVP.

982
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 1: I'm not going for it again, but I will say

983
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: that he's got some credentials that that hel in this category.

984
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be very interesting down the stretch

985
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: because you're right, the big name guys like Mahomes, Josh Allen,

986
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: Joe Burrows out of it now. They're not really doing

987
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: all these big things right now. But yeah, I think

988
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: guys like Perty should be in the discussion.

989
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 2: I think C. J. Strous should be in discussion, Dak Prescott,

990
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett, TJ. Wide.

991
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: I made a lot of big names A J. Brown

992
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: as well, Tyreek Hill. But he'll be there in there

993
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: at the end because that team's gonna have a really

994
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: good record and he's gonna have really good numbers.

995
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: Wow, even if it takes getting there by default, we're

996
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 3: gonna keep pushing brock Berdy number one.

997
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 4: Let's go, you go, Hey, I'm gonna let you guys talk.

998
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna let you guys talk about the Michigan Ohio

999
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 4: state stuff.

1000
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,479
Speaker 2: During the break.

1001
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 4: We have got to head back back.

1002
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: In our final break, we're gonna talk a little Jordan

1003
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 3: Love the green Man package quarterback went off this weekend,

1004
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 3: he leads, are forgotten headlines.

1005
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 4: You guys can go chopping about the Buckeyes and Wolf

1006
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 4: Raines later.

1007
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 3: All right, as you wrap up the NFL Report, Steve

1008
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 3: Whites here with James Palmer JP, you know, lost among

1009
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: the headlines of the Bills rallying back or dtr getting

1010
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 3: the Browns of victory over Pittsburgh. We've got a lot

1011
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 3: of things going and we've had Jeff to d On

1012
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: and you know how I feel about brock Purty and

1013
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 3: you feel about him as well. You had the perfect

1014
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 3: game yesterday with a one fifty eight point three passer rating.

1015
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 3: I have no idea how that's figured out, since he

1016
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 3: did have four or five incompletions, But is to me

1017
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 3: is his receiver Brandon Ayuk five receptions right for one

1018
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty six yards in a touchdown, Explosive plays

1019
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 3: and JP.

1020
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 4: We have talked about it multiple times here on the

1021
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 4: NFL Report.

1022
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 3: No player has benefited more from brock Perty's emergence than

1023
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 3: Brandon Ayuk.

1024
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 4: We weren't calling his name week after week like we

1025
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 4: did until Brock Purdy took over.

1026
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 3: Ayuk now is on the verge of his second consecutive

1027
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 3: one thousand yard season, and even our own Steve Smith,

1028
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 3: a Pro Football Hall of av finalist the past two years,

1029
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: said Ayuk is a number one receiver. If he hits

1030
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 3: free agency, he is going to break the bank. And

1031
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: he showcased yesterday with his record setting one hundred and

1032
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 3: fifty six yard performance. Don't overlook that even though we

1033
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 3: love Rockberdy one hundred percent.

1034
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: And remember what else Steve said, because we got to

1035
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: keep giving him love because it was one of our

1036
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 2: best guests we've ever had as a tremendous segment. He said,

1037
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: I hope Deebo Samuel doesn't get upset about this, but

1038
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk is the best route runner on that team. Yeah,

1039
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: and that was his big stance on Brandon Ayuka. I'm

1040
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 2: going to go with Jordan Love as I had talked

1041
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: to some defensive coaches that have done some work on

1042
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: the Packers over the last couple of weeks, and a

1043
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: couple of guys said the same thing. He is ready

1044
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: to break out. He is on the verge of having

1045
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: that game and he went out and he did it

1046
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 2: in a comeback win over the Chargers. He goes for

1047
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty two yards two touchdowns. He spread

1048
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: the ball around Steve. That was the part that stood

1049
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: out the most to me. But a lot of defensive

1050
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: minds were thinking very highly of ord and Love recently

1051
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: and expected this game to happen soon. And now it happened,

1052
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: and I'm excited to see what happens moving forward with

1053
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 2: Jordan Love. Yeah.

1054
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 3: I mean he throws at forty times, three hundred and

1055
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 3: twenty two yards two touchdowns, and I'm with you. I

1056
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: spoke to people who said, yeah, they're not winning games,

1057
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 3: but it's not because of Jordan Love.

1058
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 4: You can see the tools are there now.

1059
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 3: The Packers are just going to have a decision as

1060
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 3: to how long they hang with him after the season

1061
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 3: because contractsual.

1062
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 2: I think he's got one more year. JP bring us home. Oh,

1063
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 2: I'll bring this home. I have to say I had

1064
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: a wonderful time in Charlotte. It was a Cowboys home game,

1065
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: as I mentioned at the top of the show, but

1066
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: I realized that this Dallas team can win in a

1067
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: variety of ways. Dak Prescott, we've been talking about it

1068
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: as an MVP. Guess what, he didn't have to do

1069
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: a whole lot of heavy lifting. Neither did Ceedee lamb.

1070
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 2: This Cowboys team's going to be fun to watch. Not

1071
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: great opponents. Now let's see what happens in the second

1072
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: half of their season. We're going to be back for

1073
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: a Thursday edition on Thanksgiving of NFL reports Steve Wisch,

1074
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: Jase Palmer. Watch us everywhere