1 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: in Burrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown Stanley, brought to 3 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck coming soon to Ohio on a 4 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and 5 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: Nathan Zigura. All right, let's do it live on a 6 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the program. Merely bow the great gerade 7 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: cherry with you along the ride. For the next couple 8 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: of hours, we will take a look at this playoff weekend, 9 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,959 Speaker 1: some monster games, some traditional matchups that as everybody excited. 10 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: Certainly there's a lot of news going around around the 11 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: National Football League. We will get into all of at 12 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: as well. But I did want to start with something 13 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: that was part of both of our shows yesterday and 14 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: that Jim and I were on until about three ten, 15 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: which is well into next level territory gerade Um because 16 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: of the Jim Schwarts press conference. I think one thing 17 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: around here that that I notice is we're big on 18 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: do they win the press conference? And I'll be be 19 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: real honest with you as someone who is part of 20 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: the press, and and you're part of the press now 21 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,639 Speaker 1: you're a player obviously Before that um, the introductory press 22 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: conference that's for the fans. Man, that's what it's for. 23 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: There's there's nothing Jim Schwartz could have said yesterday schematically 24 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: that's gonna make anybody go, oh, well, that sorts all 25 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: of it. That'll fix it right there. I mean, football 26 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: fans are smarter now than they've ever been. They know 27 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz wants to run a wide nine. They know 28 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: historically that he has great defensive tackles on the interior. 29 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: They know that currently we do not have those things. 30 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: So they knew that before he sat down at that 31 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: press conference yesterday. I think what you're looking for, what 32 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: the fan base is looking for, is is this a 33 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: guy that's got a little bit of fire? Does he 34 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: have some accountability? Is this is he one of those 35 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: guys who can lead? And I came away from that 36 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: yesterday going yeah, absolutely, he checks those boxes. Gerved, what 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: do you make of it? Yeah? I made similar thoughts 38 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: and cinemas as well, Bow because when I listened to 39 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: that press conference, I walked away from experience saying, heck, 40 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: you got me fired. Where can I go get my 41 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: paths and check in and see you? And Bracket hooked 42 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: me up and I'm ready to go because he had 43 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: the right things to say, and the way in when 44 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: he went about it. He gave you nostalgia, He gave 45 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: you his background, He gave you what he's been through 46 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: and why he's qualified for the job, and what's his foundation, 47 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: his reference points, and talking about, hey, I gotta buy 48 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: him from Nick Saban, who's gonna go against that? I 49 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: was around Bill Belichick. As a matter of fact, I 50 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: ate the guy's sandwich. And then when you get to 51 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: actually how he ended the bad boy, and actually, before 52 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: I even go there, the reference to the railroad track 53 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: and what that represents. And if you've ever been to 54 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: training camp, how frustrated have you been when you got 55 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: stuck behind that train trying to get to a parking 56 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: spot and you can't get there, simply put because the 57 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: railroad track because in a way, so he knocked it out. 58 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: The part your acts exactly right in regards to who 59 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: it's for. It is for the fan base. But there 60 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: was something he did say that I found very telling. 61 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: And when we have situations where you make changes, like 62 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: a coordinator or even a head coach, you're looking for 63 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: someone who's gonna bring something different to the table than 64 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: the guy that was previously there and what he had 65 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: to say in regards to the issues of accountability and 66 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,839 Speaker 1: holding Guy's accountable and his approach that Hey, I still 67 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: have some fire and brimstone in me. I'm not completely 68 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: over the top with it, but that's my approach. And 69 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: I have to hold the best players accountable. We're looking 70 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: for that. And I heard you say something earlier in 71 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: the week about accountability housed all over the building. But 72 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: we have to express that on the football fielding, the 73 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: practice facility and outside of it as well. And that's 74 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: a key thing. We have to mean what we say 75 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: and say what we mean. Yeah, and I think that 76 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: there is a UM. I think there's a real sense 77 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: of urgency for this organization. UM. I think you look 78 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: at your peers. UM. I'm not sure if you if 79 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: you've noticed this this week or not, but if you 80 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: look at the quarterbacks that are all still playing, the 81 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: average ages twenty five years of age. Uh Dak Prescott 82 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: is the elder statesman, he's twenty nine. So there are 83 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: two twenty three year olds playing right now and still 84 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: playing in the NFC NFL playoffs, um In Perdy and 85 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: Lawrence UM. The average ages twenty five. Um, we we 86 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: were there was for the last three years kind of 87 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: we've been best young roster in the NFL. Are one 88 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: of the best for young rosters in the NFL usually 89 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: on that list. Uh, the Cleveland Browns need to need 90 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: to more from best young to it's right now. The 91 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: prime is right now. Our best players are between the 92 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: ages of twenty five and twenty nine, and the time 93 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: to pay dividends on that is now. And what I 94 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: needed to hear from Jim Schwartz, and I think it'll 95 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: set the tone for really everybody in the in the organization, 96 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: coaching staff, give everybody a little bit of a jolt. 97 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: Is like, man, this guy was at the mountaintop a 98 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: couple of years ago there and he knows, he knows 99 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: what it takes, um and he's learned from some of 100 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: the best. And we don't have a whole lot of 101 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: time to go figure it out. It's now. It's got 102 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: to be figured out right now. And I I in 103 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: the in the presser yesday and talking to Jim he 104 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: knows what he signed up for here, right and what 105 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: he signed up for here. Bow is something that it's talented. 106 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: But as we know, talent is not enough, And it 107 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: goes back to that whole mantra of you heard guys 108 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: say it all the time. We're very talented football team. 109 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: But it's one thing to be a talented football team, 110 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: but are you a team? And it seems to me 111 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: that Jim, yes, he knows what he's signed up for, 112 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: but he has to be encouraged, not granted. There are 113 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: a couple of spots where you say, what are you 114 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: gonna do in the wide nine with the defensive tackle situation? 115 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: How are you gonna share that up? What? And I 116 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: love the answer he gave in regards to the linebackers 117 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: because ultimately he's right in that, Hey, if I can 118 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: coach the guy have to play, I don't care how 119 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: big he is, because I can tell you the undersized 120 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: guy named Sam Mills post humus is now in the 121 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: NFL Hall of Fame for being an undersized linebacker, one 122 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: of the first ones to do it. So you don't 123 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: have to be too forty two two fifty in order 124 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: to get the job done. But obviously you have to 125 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: get the job I've done. But the main thing that 126 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: I look at far is that whole age dynamic. I 127 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: feel for the past couple of years. We've allowed that 128 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: to be an excuse, the youth movement as a reason 129 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: why we haven't taken that next step. And that's not 130 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: a good excuse at all because ultimately that's not gonna matter. 131 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: So you're absolutely right that window is closing and it 132 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: is time now for these young guys, especially on defense. 133 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: Because I'm of the opinion boat I don't know if 134 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: you agree with me and not, please tell me, but 135 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: the offense play well enough to be playoff bound this year. 136 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: They did, even with Jacoby being in there and represent 137 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: the backup. I felt that they played well enough to 138 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: put us in a situation where we could be in 139 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Can't say the same about the defense and 140 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: at times of special teams, so all those things when 141 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: they haven't coming they've got young players on there, But 142 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: that's no longer excuse. We have to take that next step. 143 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: Everything you said true, UM, it is a um it's 144 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: a move that is made for a team that that 145 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: feels like it's right there and and it's very very close. Um. 146 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: You mentioned the defensive we've I mean, that's been all 147 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: we've talked about, and honest I told this story on 148 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: the show yesterday when I was doing to a gym 149 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: like UM, I was convalescing on Tuesday and had a 150 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: delivery come over, and one of the delivery guys recognized 151 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: me and said, hey, who do you think we're gonna 152 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: do with defensive coordinator? And I went through kind of 153 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: where we were and he goes, Um, he said, well 154 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: what about Schwartz? And I said, well, I mean I 155 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: love Jim Schwartz. I just don't know that the things 156 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: that feel like requirements for him do we have those things, 157 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: and that we are not great at defensive tackle and 158 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: his best defenses historically have defensive tackles who are dudes, 159 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: and we don't have that right now. And I said, 160 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: so I don't. I think there might need to be 161 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of a roster overhaul. Um and and 162 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: sure enough two hours later they signed INFO right now. Um. 163 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: But but I do think that I liked I picked 164 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: up on that answer on linebackers to like, I can 165 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: coach them all sorts of sizes. I just need him 166 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: to play with a purpose and know what they're doing. 167 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing. And there's no question that 168 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: we if if job one on this team is a 169 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: burner on offense, then job one A or one equal 170 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: is defensive line, and that's opposite my is, that's defensive tackle. 171 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: You need two big time NFL players. You need an 172 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: NFL defensive player who's an impact guy in the middle 173 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: of the defensive line, and you need somebody opposite Miles 174 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: on the other end. So Andrew Berry's got a lot 175 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: on his wish list this offseason. But in talking to 176 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: guys who played for Jim Schwartz, and I've done that 177 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: in the Lost Latin several times the last couple of days, 178 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: the one constant thing that I keep hearing from them 179 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: is you will not see guys on this defense next 180 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: year pointing around going that's you, that's you, that's you, 181 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: because he don't have it. They don't do that. It's simple. 182 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: It's primarily, man, there's not gonna be a whole lot 183 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: of confusion in terms of what's being asked on a 184 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: given play. We're gonna play fundamentally sound and you're gonna 185 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: do your job, and that's it. And I thought, well, 186 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: that's a step, that's a step in the right direction. 187 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: Yeah it Cera is it. It's a huge step in 188 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: the right direction, because how many times do we look 189 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: back and last year and you had guys in the 190 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: same gap point in each other like, no, they are 191 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be there, No, were supposed to be there, 192 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: or in the secondary same issue, al right, my cover 193 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: for responsibility this is yours? Is that? Or in blown 194 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: coverages And this is this idea of you can't And 195 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: it's a fine line Bowl because as a player's perspective, 196 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: you want guys to feel confident when they see something 197 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: and anticipate something and make a play. But but there's also, 198 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: like I said, a fine line and that and that 199 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: you don't want to have it be perceived as you're 200 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: simply going rogue and you're trying to get yourself a 201 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: stat to fulfill some type of Pro Bowl aspirations or 202 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: some type of incentive. And that can be the play 203 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: either because ultimately it comes back to we are a 204 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: team and unfortunately too many times last year on the 205 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, you saw what we just 206 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: described taking place, and you can't have that take place obviously, 207 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: and say you're playing complimentary, winning football when you um 208 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: when you put the GM hat on. And I'm not 209 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: gonna ask you the name players, because who the hell 210 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: knows I mean, this has all gotta play out. You 211 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: don't know how the free agent process is gonna is 212 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: gonna to play out. But as you've had a couple 213 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: of days to wrap your head around what Schwartz is 214 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: gonna want to do and the fit of the players 215 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: who are here, um, and you you put yourself in 216 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: Andrew Barry's desk. What are what's what are the what's 217 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: the type of things he needs right away? What are 218 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: the things that this defense lacks that it needs in 219 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: order for this to work well? First and foremost, you 220 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: you have to and I think you actually have it 221 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: on the roster now. From a linebacker standpoint, it's just 222 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: a matter of getting the right combination and it needs 223 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: to be an open competition in my opinion, for who's 224 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: most consistent, who's making plays, who's getting off blocks, who's 225 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: feeling to correct abc gaps? As a linebacker, who starts 226 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: and if they make a mistake, they get taken out. 227 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: Same thing with the safety position as well. When you 228 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: have run gap responsibility and you're at the line of scrimmage, 229 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: you can't be making the same mistakes over and over again. 230 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: So I think from a linebacker we got big bodies, 231 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: and we got slender bodies will be the way I'll 232 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: describe it. Now. I'm not of the opinion, unlike coach Swartz, 233 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: that you could have three slender bodies on the football 234 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: field the same time at the linebacker position, because I 235 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: think it makes a job too easy from a physical 236 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: standpoint for offensive lineman to just put a big body 237 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: on you and use that speed and size against you. 238 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: So I think you have it from a linebacker position 239 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: with Raggling with Walker, if you sign him back with 240 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: j Ok with fields with Phillips, those guys can do it, 241 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: and Jones and Jordan's as well. I think you have 242 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: that there. Now let's go to the defensive tackle spot. 243 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: That's where it gets interested because I think there we 244 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: need to be a bit heavier. I think we do 245 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: need to have bigger bodies in that spot. In that grant, 246 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: there were times when Brian did good and there were 247 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: times when Elliott did good, but unfortunately it was too inconsistent. 248 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: So I think there you have to be thinking keep 249 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: those guys in the fold. But how about some guys 250 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: that way three three twenty that happened to be defensive tackles. 251 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: I want to see bigger, more intimidating bodies there, just 252 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: so they don't get pushed around by the guards and 253 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: tackles who are away in three twenty and we're at 254 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: three hundred and then you nailed it too with through 255 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: our received position. I think we're set there. What we 256 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: truly need is a guy that can stretch the field. 257 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: And the deepest lack roots actually feared that he'll catch 258 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: the football, because when he does catch that football, all 259 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: that's gonna do is what opening up a Mari opened 260 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: up with Diamond people's jones and certainly opening up with 261 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb. Yeah, it's I think we all can you know, 262 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: I do wonder they need a center fielder at safety 263 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: if they're gonna move Grant down closer, you know, what 264 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: does John look like back there? What is what's kind 265 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: of the what does that kind of grow into through 266 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: this offseason, through the spring, what does that look like? 267 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: You need a true center field safety, because it felt 268 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: like Grant was certainly coming into his own as a 269 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: season when he was closer. Yeah, he was a dude. 270 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: He finally he looked like the guy they drafted, the 271 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: guy at L s U. You're like, okay, this is 272 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: a guy. You count on him, but that was him 273 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: playing you know, much more down and in and active, 274 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: and that's where he's actually the great. That's the same 275 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: place John is natural. So that you know, the two 276 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: of them, I don't know long term if that's a fit, 277 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: so I'm interested to see what they do there. Um, 278 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: But there are just a couple of tweaks here and there, 279 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: and then you can be a contender that the time 280 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: to win is certainly now. I do think that it 281 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: is critical. Um, I don't and I know they know this, 282 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: and I'm the price on these are are that's always high. 283 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: But you have to have a difference maker in some 284 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: regard at defensive tackle and or a difference maker opposite miles. 285 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: But you can't be in a situation where that is 286 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: not improved tremendously because unfortunately for them in the draft, 287 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: we're still wait. We can't wait anymore on Tommy togy 288 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: I and Jordan Elliott. You know, and you want to 289 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: go to receive you can't wait, An Moore on Anthony Schwartz. 290 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: I can't wait. Like it's done. It's you, it's win now. 291 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: That's the approach of the whole organization. That's the Schwartz, 292 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: I are all of it. So I think the same 293 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: would be true of the roster that we've drafted. Some 294 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: of these guys they haven't blossomed the way that you'd like, 295 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: and and yet it might be time to move on 296 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: and get some people in here. It can be difference makers. 297 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: And Bo, you you made me think of something with 298 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: what you just said regarding the defensive in opposite of 299 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: Miles situation. My thought is, if I had a choice 300 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: between what I rather to have a guy opposite of 301 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: Miles or someone more impactful in the middle, I'm still 302 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: going to stick with the middle element of it because 303 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: if you can have someone putting pressure up the middle, 304 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: that's much more harder for a quarterback to deal with 305 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: and it just disrupts things. And at the same time, 306 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: I thought, as this on that guy on the outside, 307 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: you are going to get one on one blocking attention 308 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: on a regular basis due to the fact that Myles 309 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: Garrett is way out yonder down. Is why nine there's 310 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: no excuse for you not to beat that one on 311 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: one matchup every now and then. And even if you 312 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: are going as a conflent type or another Pro Bowl type, 313 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: you still need to win that matchup more than you 314 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: lose it, in my opinion, especially if you get one 315 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: on one attention. Yeah, no, it's it's it's where the 316 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: league has I mean, it's where it's banned. That's the 317 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: the drops are so shorter, it's out of the gun. 318 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: The best way you can be disruptive is up the middle. 319 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: And um, one thing that we had when we had 320 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: Clowney and we never really got to see it at 321 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: it's full Um, it's full torque this year with with Winovich. 322 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: But when when we would go with Miles or Clowney 323 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: in the middle and win of Itch and and Clowney 324 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: on the outside, you know, Miles in the middle can 325 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: be really disrupted. So it worked. It worked, Yeah, it does, 326 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: it does. That does work and it was effective. So um, 327 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: this opens a chance of possibilities, I think for the 328 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: most part though, if you're looking for a big theme 329 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: from yesterday, if you're looking for a big theme from 330 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: this organization, and how quickly this all took place, the 331 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: clock is ticking right you're in a window. Right now, 332 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: You're in a window and probably as competitive of an 333 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: a f C in terms that we've had. I mean, 334 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: you think about this ascent of Jacksonville. At some point, 335 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: the charges are gonna be competently coached. Kansas City is 336 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: not going anywhere, Buffalo is not going anywhere, Cincinnati's not 337 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: going anywhere somewhere. Steelers gonna get better, Miami is gonna 338 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: they were pretty damn good with TWA. They're gonna figure 339 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: something out. So there's a lot in this a f 340 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: C that you're gonna try to navig it. I would 341 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: argue that you know, certainly, at the time when you 342 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: were at the Patriots at the very top with the 343 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: Colts and the Patriots, or even it sometimes when it 344 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: was Colts or the Patriots and Steelers or whatever that 345 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: there might have been, those two teams might have been 346 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: slightly better. But in terms of the depth gerade, I 347 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: don't know if we've ever seen an a f C 348 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: like the one we have right now. You want to 349 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: thrust into that thing. You know what you're signing up for, 350 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: you gotta come with it. And and the thing that 351 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: I do appreciate about yesterday's press conference, and I said before, 352 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: and I'll be happy to reiterate it, whenever you have 353 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: changes like this, you're gonna see a polar opposite probably 354 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: of the person that was once in charge. And that's 355 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: pretty much what you're what you're getting in this situation. 356 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: You're getting the fire and some level of brimstone from Schwartz, 357 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: even though I felt he kind of contained it and 358 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: kept it in. But you're absolutely right. The a f 359 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: C is extremely competitive. And think about this bow for thought. 360 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: What if Peyton decides to go to Denver and we 361 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: know Russ is capable plan at a high level, So 362 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: what if he goes there. We know Sean Payton's capable 363 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: of coaching Pete to play at a high level, So 364 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: that would only make it even more challenging for this division. 365 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean you add that to it because 366 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: if you went back to a year at the time 367 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: of acquisition of Russell Wilson, you would have said, well, 368 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: Denver could win the Super Bowl with Russell Wilson. Why 369 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: can't they? They got everything else, they got all the weapons, 370 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: super Bowl caliber defense. There's no reason Denver can't take 371 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: the next step. They get the right coach in there 372 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: who can reach Russ and rejuvenate that a little bit. 373 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: You're back, and so I think that's why there is 374 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: a sense of urgency. Uh. The clock ticking all of 375 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: those things. I think there was a sense of urgency 376 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: to this higher, to this pursuit. They want to make 377 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: sure they got their guy. They did it. It's not 378 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: a coincidence that they hired first, they interviewed a bunch 379 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: of people, and then made the first higher and moved 380 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: it along. And I think that's because they all feel it, 381 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: um that that next year is go time, and you 382 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: are in the middle of a window to try to 383 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: compete for a Lombardi and try to compete in an 384 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 1: absolutely brutal a f c um. We'll have a lot 385 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: of fun over the course the next couple hours of 386 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: the program. 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You know where we're at in 406 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: this thing. Uh, this is when the men separate from 407 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: the boys. We'll have some fun with that as this 408 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: thing continues. We're off and running here on a Thursday 409 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: edition Cleveland Brown's Daily, brought to you by Bally Bet 410 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: coming soon to a esp in Cleveland. You want to 411 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: coach where fans are passionate. I've been very fortunate in Philadelphia. Okay, check, 412 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: we're you know we we we we had that Detroit, Yes, Buffalo, 413 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, I've had some great stops that way. Tennessee. 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We've heard 424 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: a lot of coaches in front office people say what 425 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz just said right there, Um, that it's time 426 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: to the responsibility of it. Um that it's time for 427 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: these fans. It's time to get it right. I mean 428 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: it's it's It's said a lot. Everybody has a full 429 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: appreciation and respect of the history here. UM. I do 430 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: think that there is a time when that history eats 431 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: him up. I think it does. UM. I think I 432 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: think we've seen it time and time again. UM. I 433 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: do think that it's important. And when I was talking 434 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: to Jim about this yesterday, it's funny like, of course 435 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: Jim would he's a he knows everything like the back 436 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: of his hand. He's got an encyclopedic memory of everything. 437 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: He basically said exactly what how the press conference would 438 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: go for Shorts, he predicted how would go. He knew 439 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: would be emotional. Um, he knew that that coming back 440 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: here and being in that dais and in that press 441 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: room would be something that he had remembered. Obviously it 442 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: wasn't that one exactly, but you get the point, um, 443 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: that that it would be something that would hit a 444 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: lot of nerves for him, and it did. Um, Schwartz 445 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: having been here for this franchise being ripped out of 446 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: this town. He got a first hand seat man front 447 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: row for for something taken out of here. So now, 448 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: what does that mean next football season? Nothing, It doesn't 449 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: need anything. It means a lot right now, and it 450 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: makes us feel good. It's a warm blanket on a 451 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: on a cold although it's not that cold out there today, 452 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: on a on a cold January night, right, it makes 453 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 1: you feel warm and fuzzy. But the reality is, none 454 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: of it's gonna matter next year. Um, All that goes 455 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: out the window and it's just gonna be Can you 456 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: put your guys in the best position to succeed to 457 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: play compromentary football to your offense, which is something that 458 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: hasn't happened. And if he can do that, then waking 459 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 1: up the echoes and all that stuff, it all happen, certainly, 460 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: because you're absolutely right, Bot because if the season starts 461 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: out and say the openers against the Pittsburghs and we 462 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: lose thirty five and nothing, nothing he said is going 463 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: to matter at all. So we get that. But in 464 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: this time of the season, why not have hope, because 465 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: that's all we have right now is hope. We're watching 466 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: other teams playing the playoffs, and teams are definitely separating 467 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: the cream. It's rising to the top, obviously, But right 468 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: now for us, we need a message that gives us 469 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: the idea that we have someone in place who's gonna 470 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: call attention to the idea that the guys, especially on 471 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, need to be playing 472 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: at a higher level based upon the talent culture that 473 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: they have. So I'm all in favor hearing that message. 474 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: It's obviously gonna be much more challenging to put that 475 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: message into practice because there may be some guys on 476 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: that defense right now as we speak bo who will 477 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: be opposed to the idea of giving more than what 478 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: they've already given, thinking that, hey, I do my job, 479 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm compensated for it, and that's nothing. You've heard me 480 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: say this before. Just doing your job is not enough 481 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Yeah, you get pay to 482 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: check and you collect a large summer money on a 483 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: weekly basis, and more power to be for that. But 484 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: it has to be more than just the money. So 485 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: if we have a guy in the place who can 486 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: get guys to buy into this idea that hey, that 487 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: guy next to you, that guy on the other side 488 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: of the of the room is in it with you, 489 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: and that they can build some sense of camaraderie with 490 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: that and understanding that, hey, we have an opportunity to 491 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,239 Speaker 1: do something great and not just put it out as 492 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: a bullet pointed Yeah, we want to be a top 493 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: five defense because that's the message that everyone wants to send, 494 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: but actually bought it to the idea of what it 495 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: takes to get there, and they're willing to listen and follow. 496 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: Then you have something. But we will not know that 497 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: until training camp starts. Heck o t a start. Training 498 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: camp starts and then the actual season starts. But right 499 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: now I am going to enjoy the fact that we 500 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: have a premiere storyteller, a premiere orator at the defense 501 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: coordinating position. Because what he did yesterday, bo was a 502 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: work of art? Was that not refreshing? Man? Just to 503 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: just to tell a yarn? I mean it goes so 504 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: far like It's just it was beautiful, it was fun. 505 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: It was a fun listen, really enjoyable listen. Um. You know, 506 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: it's I think that one guy who could really benefit 507 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: as as you were talking about, you know, some of 508 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: the traits that he has and how demanding he has 509 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: and some of the things that he said. Um, I 510 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: thought a Denzel Award, Um. You know, Denzel Award is 511 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: is an incredible mirror at at corner um and he's 512 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: been he's been one of the better, you know, coverage 513 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: corners in the league. But that next step to being 514 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: like a dude like top of the sport type. That's right, 515 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: rivas Island one of those type of guys. In order 516 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: to do that. Can Does he have the potential to 517 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: unlock that? Yes, I definitely get a potential unlock it. Uh, 518 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: but how do you get it out of him? And 519 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: I think back to his time at Ohio State, and 520 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: I think about the position coaches he had, whether it 521 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: was Carrie Combs, but most especially as defensive coordinator Luke 522 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: fickle Um And and that was you know, Luke came 523 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: up with Mike Vrabel and you know they coach together 524 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: early on that staff at Ohio State. Um, there was 525 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: an accountability that was boy, you were held to a 526 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: high standard. And they had a very I mean Urbans 527 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: this way, like very sabing Um, probably very Belichick in 528 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: in terms of even when you win, it sucks, right, 529 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 1: it's exactly yep, it's you win, and it's like, well, 530 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: why don't we win by more? You did this, this, this, 531 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: and this? What were you thinking here? Like that was 532 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: their approach. I could see Denzel Word thriving in this. 533 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: I really could. Yeah, and and it would it would 534 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: be the better form because if you want to give 535 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: Denzel and you're right, from the moment he stepped on 536 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: the football field and I saw him covering Antonio Brown 537 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: at the peak of Antonio Brown being Antonio Brown, the 538 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: good receiver. Denzel's shut him down and gave a one 539 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: TV which was a perfect pass and catch. So I 540 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, this kid can play and end up 541 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: being a Pro Bowl caliber football player from that point on. 542 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: But if I was to give one critique to Denzel, 543 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: I would say the following, You're gonna if you want 544 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: to take that next step, if you want to be 545 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: that Reeves type, You're gonna have to find a way. Though. 546 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: If you hurt, you hurt. I get that that you 547 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: are showing by example one of your teammates that you 548 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: are the hardest working individual on this ball team and 549 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: that you are a guy who's going to pay the 550 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: price on a daily basis. Because if you do do that, 551 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: and if you do take on that approach, you will 552 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: find yourself getting lauded as one of the best in 553 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: the business and you're the The ability is there, The 554 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: desire has to be awakened to get to that place, 555 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: and not just wrestling the fact that I'm really good? 556 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: Do you want to be the best? Ever? He has 557 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: the potential to be In that conversation, the question becomes 558 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: does he want to be in that conversation boat The 559 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: thing that you just laid out for Denzel, and I 560 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: think it applies, you know, kind of across with a 561 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: lot of our guys, is a lot of them have 562 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: established being really good, but it's that next step too 563 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: great that you know, you think about that step Joe 564 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: Hit you played with Tom hit it early on a 565 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: long time ago. But like, all right, I'm really good. 566 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: But now we're talking gold jacket, Like you can start 567 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: to lay the groundwork for gold jacket, but at some 568 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: point you gotta bust through that and and maybe Schwartz 569 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: can be something that can can can kind of mind 570 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: some of that with some of our guys. We'll see, 571 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: but I'm with you. It was it was world class, 572 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: uh orator, That's perfect, That's exactly what it was. Um. 573 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: It was a great storyteller, certainly from Jimmy yesterday and 574 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: excited to see what he does on the field. Um, 575 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: let's have it. This was from CBS Sports Gerad, I'm 576 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: gonna go through this. This is their biggest hurdles, um, 577 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: for every NFL playoff contender. All right, okay, so let's start. Um. Actually, 578 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: let's go in chronological order. So the first game tomorrow 579 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: is Kansas City and Jacksonville. Which of these is a 580 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: bigger concern for you? Um, Kansas City's concerned. According to 581 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: CBS Sports in their NFL preview will the defense provide 582 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: enough support? Conversely, Jacksonville's did they already hit their emotional peak? 583 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: Which is more troubling. I would say the emotional peak 584 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: part will not be a problem. If anything, I would 585 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: say for the Kansas City, will the defense come to play? 586 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 1: Because the def comes to play. I don't see how 587 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: they lose this game to the Jaguars. And the reason 588 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: why I dismissed the whole emotional peak part. You're in 589 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and if you're Jacksonville one, what do you 590 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: have to lose? You weren't even supposed to be at 591 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: this point in place in time. What you are right now, sir, 592 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: you are well ahead of schedule. Go get the experience, 593 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: embrace the challenge. There's no pressure on you because no 594 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: one's first of all, anticipating you're gonna even be winning 595 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: this football game. And like I said, you're not even 596 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: supposed to be in the playoffs right now. It should 597 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: be the Tennessee Titans representing the a f C South, 598 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: not the Jacksonville last place last year Jaguars. But they 599 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: find themselves here. So if anything, I'm looking at the 600 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: Chiefs boat and I'm saying the defense that has always 601 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: been a question mark. You guys are so disrespected, so 602 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: much of an afterthought for most people when they talk 603 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: about your football team. Are you going to rise to 604 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: the occasion? And it's quietly. I think they've been playing 605 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: pretty good of late. Yeah, they have been. The one 606 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: thing I will say about you, I think you're right 607 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: on Jacksonville. It's all house money for them. Um. The 608 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: one thing for Kansas City is like, don't give Lawrence 609 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: belief because he showed what can happen if he gets 610 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: a little of it. I can't believe that kid didn't 611 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: break four interceptions and a half Garad, right, come on 612 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: and right, But that was happening. We have great coaching. 613 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: Guy can explain it to you. Here's what you need 614 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: to do is settle down. And that was maskful job 615 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: on a part of Peterson to pull that caper off. 616 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't even want to bring the 617 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: charges into the conversation though. But all it takes is 618 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: you running the football. Oh my god, just a little bit. 619 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: I mean the times they snapped it with twenty seconds 620 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: on the on the clock's right, yeah it is. It's 621 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: just or ignorance. One of the two both lethal combination 622 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 1: of them both. Right. Uh, the Giants, they say, can 623 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: wink Martindale match Brian Dable and Mike Kafka. So that 624 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: is the Giants question. For the Eagles, what exactly is 625 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts his status? I lean on this one. I 626 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: like Philly. I think this game could be ultra competitive. 627 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: But we haven't seen Hurts all the way back. Yeah. Yeah, 628 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: And that last game in which he played to shirre 629 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: up the number one seed, it was the most impressive 630 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: outing in the last three games. If you think about 631 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: the Eagles, is almost like they ran out of steam 632 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: down to the end of the wire. And here's what 633 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: I know from experience. You want, even if your quarterbacks out, 634 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: you want to play your best football at the end, 635 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: going into the playoffs with the momentum behind you, even 636 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: if you have that week off from the by standpoint. 637 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: So I don't think the Giants will beat the Eagles 638 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: because ultimately I just think the Eagles are a better 639 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: football team. But at the same time, I'm kind of 640 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: hesitant to say that. Bow. The reason why is I'm 641 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: a believer that Jones is a new quarterback, that he's 642 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: a new man place there. Well, it's funny I was 643 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: you're watching Sunday Night or the Sunday Night It was 644 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: a Sunday night game, And Jason Garrett goes, my man, DJ, 645 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, you almost ruined him? What do 646 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: you mean? Daboll resurrected? They were gonna be He was 647 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: a scrap heap. He looks like a scrap heap anymore. Right, 648 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: he was designated for what they say in baseball, designated 649 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: for assignment. Right, he was designated for a backup quarterback. Like, 650 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: I don't know that they've they got something there that 651 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: Giants team. I would not shock me at all if 652 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: that would not. All right, let's move to the Sunday games. Um, 653 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: the early one, the three boy, I love these times, 654 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: the three o'clock game, and they're sort of they're three 655 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: and six thirty. How beautiful is that? The three o'clock 656 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: game is Buffalo and Cincinnati. Buffalo's big question, according to 657 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: Cody Benjamin here at CBS, can Josh Allen protect the football? 658 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: Cincinnati's can the offensive line survive another loss? Boy? These 659 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: are both the whole game, right, there isn't it for 660 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: that one? He nailed it? And I can already answer 661 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: one of them. Josh Allen never protects the football. He's 662 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: awaiting interception throwarding every moment that he steps on the 663 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: football field, because that's just how he plays a game. 664 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: He's that gun slinger mentality, and you need that confidence 665 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: in you. But you assume he's gonna give you one 666 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: of two opportunities. Billy used to say this all the 667 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: time about certain quarterbacks, in particular Ben Roethlisberger. He's gonna 668 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: give you one or two chances every game in Long Behole. 669 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: Josh Allen falls in that same paradigm as well. But 670 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the situation with the Bengals, and now 671 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: you have all these guys who you spend all this 672 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: money on to show up your offensive line, and you 673 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: manage last year to get to the super Bowl with 674 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: the ports of offensive lines. Now they're starting to hurt, 675 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: and you saw what it took take place with that. 676 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: Now the Bill's deepest line can get to you, but 677 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: they're not like the Commanders or front like that. So 678 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: I think that gives or like the Eagles or something 679 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: like that. So I think that lends to the idea 680 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: that I would be more concerned about Josh Allen putting 681 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: the Bengals in a position to succeed more so than 682 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: Burrow has always shown that he can survive an honeslought 683 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: of of attacks. I think you're right. I think that 684 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: the you know, Cincinnati dealt with this a year ago, 685 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: they can scheme it up a little bit. And I think, no, 686 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: Von Miller and Buffalo right like, there's there's nothing that 687 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: fearsome about that Bills d front. I mean, it's it's nice, 688 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: but it's not game. So if Vaughan was still there, 689 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: that would be a little bit different, totally different. I 690 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: think it's Alan Allen has been incredible. It felt like 691 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: last year towards the end he was limiting it. Now 692 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: it feels like he's leaning right back into it bad habits, 693 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: back into some bad habits. And then finally the Sunday 694 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: night game. It's a great one for us old guys. 695 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: My god, I mean, this was my youth. This is 696 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: like summer all Madden and we get it two years 697 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: in a row. Cowboys at forty niners, Uh, forty niners 698 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: favorites in this one. Uh. The Cowboys question can they 699 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: stay hot as the spotlight gets brighter? The San Francisco 700 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: question is Brock Ferdy brock Purty finally due to hit 701 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: a wall. One of these things I have no concern 702 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: about the other one. I'm not sure it would even 703 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: matter which one of you, Which one of these do 704 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: you think it's closest to home. You don't mess me up, 705 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: because now I got caught in nostalgia thinking about the 706 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: catch with Dwhite Clark. Oh man, this is your youth, man. 707 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this is Barrier Bay areas. I saw it 708 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: up close. And the crazy thing when you go into 709 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: the nineties Bowl, which which was crazy because the forty 710 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: Niners owned the Cowboys in the eighties. When you get 711 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: to the nineties, it was like the forty Niners could 712 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: beat the cow Ways, but the Cowboys couldn't be the Packers, 713 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: and then forty Nines couldn't beat with the Packers. And 714 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: it was like that back and forth right between those 715 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: three teams throughout the nineties getting the job done in 716 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: the NFC. But ultimately, I think Party is good to go. 717 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: And the reason why I say that is that they're 718 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: not asking him to do anything insane right now. They 719 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: ask him to be what a game manager, take what 720 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: the defense gives you. Don't do anything elaborate. You're not 721 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: in a position where we need you to take chances 722 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: like a Josh Allen is doing. Just throw it to 723 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: where we scheme you to be open. And what do 724 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: they have on their side? They have one of the 725 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: best coordinators. And granted he would like to take back 726 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: what took place against the Patris in that Super Bowl 727 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: doing it for Atlanta as a coordinator, but I at 728 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: least worry about the forty nine and party. I will 729 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: not be surprised if we see party starting in the 730 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And what imagine that type of story that's 731 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: gonna be from Mr Irrelevant to possible Super Bowl m 732 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: v P. I mean, you live this with Brady. I 733 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: mean you can't do it. He wasn't Mr Irrelevant, but 734 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: I mean he did that. You can I just think 735 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: right now, Purdie's just doing exactly he's geppetto. I mean, 736 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: he's a puppet on a string and Kyle's pulling all 737 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: the right strings, and I don't know if it's possible. 738 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: And it feels like we almost undervalued the McCaffrey trade 739 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: to San Francisco because if I think McCaffrey's health. There 740 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: was a play last week where they had, they had 741 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 1: Debo lined up at tailback behind use check, they had 742 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: McCaffrey out. Why so it takes their individual skill sets 743 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: to be able to do all of those things. They 744 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: put use check in motion. The defense shifts, so that 745 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 1: tells Perdie what's coming. The entire operation offensive line, use check, Deebo. 746 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: They all go like they're running a toss right to 747 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: the left. The entire defense takes two steps with him, 748 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: pretty fakes. It turns around, he's got McCaffrey on a 749 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: slant right. There's no one even there because everything they 750 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: did manipulated it and that type of stuff that Kyle 751 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: is doing right now. I said this couple of weeks 752 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 1: ago on the show Gerade, I think he's the one 753 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: true genius in football right now. Offensive football. I think 754 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: it's Kyle everyone else's variations of it. But it doesn't 755 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 1: matter who his quarterback is, kind of doesn't matter whose 756 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,479 Speaker 1: running backs are. But when he has these running backs 757 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: and he has these weapons, good night, Nurse and outside 758 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,479 Speaker 1: and I agree with you. The only thing I would 759 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: say is that I find Andy Read to be on 760 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: that same level from a play play design standpoint. But 761 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: what you love about that play you just described. Bo 762 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: is the fact that he really created what's called h 763 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: at h angle, which normally takes place out of the backfield. 764 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: He schemes it up so that the guys isolated, sends 765 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 1: everybody to that side as you just described. And now, okay, 766 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: is McCaffrey versus a one on one situation, whether the 767 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 1: linebacker or a safety and open field, who's gonna win that? Right? Yeah? 768 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: But that's just it. So that you married the scheme 769 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 1: within deebo and McCaffrey's individual talents, it's it's it's almost 770 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: not fair. And we talked about the McCaffrey trade, knowing 771 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: that it was a good fit, but I don't even 772 00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: know if it got the full attention that it does 773 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 1: because he was hurt all the time. You know me. 774 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: They will be looking at that play and guess how 775 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: many teams will be copying that play? Oh gosh, you'll 776 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: see it. You may see it this week. A tale sign, right, 777 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,399 Speaker 1: there was one copies should play. You know you've done 778 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: something special. You did it right, that's right? All right? 779 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: Coming up next, we'll play a little factor fiction. We 780 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: will have the Tom Brady conversation with a good manager. Rod. 781 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: You listen to Cleveland Brown's Daily brought to you by 782 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: Bally Bet, coming soon Ohio on a fifty esp in Cleveland. 783 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: But I also got to be a fly on the 784 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: wall and listen to Bill Belichick and Nick Saban and 785 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 1: Scott O'Brien and Kirk Ferns and gosh, you name it. Um, 786 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: just it was just unbelievable. And I was young. I 787 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: didn't have a wife, I didn't have a family. I 788 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: lived here at the office, and um, even though I 789 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: have a degree from Georgetown, I got my degree in 790 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: football ology from a PhD, and football ology from from 791 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: the Browns. And Bill that with you. Cleveland Brown's Daily 792 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: brought to you by Bally Bett, coming soon to Ohio 793 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland and fans mark your calendars. 794 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 1: Face Uff of the Lake presented by Meyer the first 795 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: major outdoor hockey game at First Energy. It's February eighteenth, 796 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: Buckeyes Wolverines tickets on sale now s already just twelve bucks. 797 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: For more information, visit First Energy Stadium dot com. Slash 798 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: face offer called four four zero eight nine, one fifty 799 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: fifty on that time to play a little fact or 800 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: fiction with a good fringe of Rod Cherry here in 801 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's Daily. Let's start with this one, Mr Cherry, 802 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: for fiction, Tom Brady will not be back with the 803 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: Bucks next season. I'm gonna go fiction with that bow 804 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,720 Speaker 1: what yes, fiction what? I don't see him going to Vegas. 805 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,439 Speaker 1: I'm and I'm putting parsonal reasons on it. I think 806 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: the situation. Obviously, we will all aware of the divorce, 807 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: and that troublesome in its own right, and that can 808 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: definitely distract a guy. But if you're a family man, 809 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: which he is, and your kids are gonna be on 810 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: the East Coast, I don't see him going to Vegas, 811 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: though it makes the most sense to go there and 812 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: look up with Josh. Now, Miami could be an interesting scenario, 813 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,959 Speaker 1: but I don't know how that plays itself out, because 814 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 1: something tells me Lamar Jackson might end up in Miami. 815 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: So the fire en up Byron was probably in some 816 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: way a way to appease Tom with some changes taking 817 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: place with the offense. So I'm gonna say that he's 818 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: gonna stay put. I'm gonna go fact. Um. I agree 819 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: with you, and you know him, you know him. I 820 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: don't know him at all. Um. I don't think. I 821 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: don't buy Vegas either. For what you said. The only 822 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: one that I thought maybe would be like, would he 823 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 1: acquiesced for one year with the Niners. But I don't 824 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: think that they would need to do that at this point, 825 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: like they they've got answers already there, so I think he. 826 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 1: I do think he'll play one more year. I'm not 827 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: sure if it will it'll be Miami or wherever. I 828 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: don't think it will be in Tampa. I think it 829 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: went really bad off the rails this year there. Do 830 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: you think there's any chance he would go back to 831 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: New England? Don't finish no cheese. I think been there, 832 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: done that, and the roster itself doesn't present an opportunity 833 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: to win. Yeah, it's tough, all right. Next fact for fiction, 834 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: Brandon Staley should not be the head coach of the 835 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: Chargers next season. This is gibbys Man, and we spoke 836 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: earlier about the collapse and the arrogance and the was 837 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: the other words you used, ignorance. It's both. It's weird 838 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: that it's a hell of a lethal combination if you're 839 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: both arrogant and ignorant. Yeah, that I'll get you killed. 840 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: But cat you fired, right, bad combo, But this certainly is. 841 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go ahead and say bow, much to 842 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: my chagrin, fiction he should not get fired. The reason 843 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: why I'm saying that is if your quarterback's going to 844 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: bat for you, and you have a great relationship with 845 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: quarterback and you can push him, he understands you, he 846 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: respects you, and all those things. That's the most important 847 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,720 Speaker 1: relationship on a football team is not owner head coach. 848 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: It's head coach, quarterback. What happened Saturdays a fire ball 849 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: offense because they have a roster that's a win now roster, 850 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: and you can't waste years with win now rosters. But 851 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: I also knew that there was no chance he was 852 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: going to be fired because I knew that ownership wasn't 853 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: gonna pay somebody not to coach, and that ownership wasn't 854 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: gonna pay somebody twenty million dollars to coach him in 855 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 1: Sean Payton. So that was all a ridiculous pipe dream. 856 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,439 Speaker 1: May my God dropped the l A Chargers pay rent 857 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: to play football home games. The Spannos family is they 858 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 1: are not throwing money around, man, So like that ain't happening. 859 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: So I knew that it wouldn't be the case. So 860 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's absolutely it's a fact. He should not 861 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: be It's fiction that it was ever even considered. Next 862 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: fact for fiction, the a f C Championship game will 863 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: be played at Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta, so that 864 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 1: for that to happen, of course, the Bills would have 865 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: to beat the Bengals and the Chiefs would have to 866 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: beat the Jaguars. Ah, man, I don't see the Bills 867 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: beating the Bengals, so I guess fiction. I'm with you, 868 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm with you. Um it. It got lost in all 869 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: and appropriately so in the Damar Hamlin stuff. But the 870 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: fact that this game is gonna take place Sunday in 871 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: Buffalo is kind of crazy because if this game had 872 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: played out in Cincinnati, won, the game would have been 873 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: down in since Cinnati right now. And yeah, and they 874 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: didn't make this one a neutral site and they should have. 875 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: Cincinnati is not happy about it, as you can imagine. So, um, 876 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: not that that only goes so far, right, that emotional 877 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: stuff that only goes so far, like you gotta execute. Um, 878 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 1: but now I'm with you. I think that that that 879 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: the a f C Championship game will be in Kansas City. Yeah, 880 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: but you don't. At the same time, bonas seen is 881 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: like the two thousand and seven Patriots, for example, These 882 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: dudes were talking about tickets, like, man, who cares? As 883 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: a Giants have better tickets than you. Guys who cares? 884 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: You can't surf about that. You got a chance to 885 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: have a perfect record. You talking about tickets? Isn't that something? 886 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: Ms Man all their family members right behind their bench. 887 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you want me to say? Dog? 888 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: Focus on the game, like going down is unequivocally the 889 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: greatest team in the history of football. Versus where your 890 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: family sited and seated at the Super Bowl. Sometimes that's 891 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: what goes through mind. I guess all right, Second hour 892 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 1: coming up next, we will do a little guest this. 893 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: We got scores coming up a special Thursday edition. We've 894 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: got some over unders as well. We'll get a preview 895 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: of the Eagles and the Giants from James Dave Spare, 896 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: a good friend of the program. He will join his 897 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: coming up at to fifteen on that one and also 898 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: the matchups in the NFC at large. We've got some 899 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: male big questions for You're gonna get this. Greg Roman 900 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: hiring or rather dismissal in Baltimore as well. All of 901 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,479 Speaker 1: that and so much more. You listen to Cleveland Brown's Daily, 902 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: brought you by Bally Bet, Coming soon Ohio on ESPN Cleveland. 903 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: I'll forget most plays of the Super Bowl that I 904 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: was with with the Eagles. I'll forget just about every 905 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: play in that game. But what I won't forget is 906 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: that parade afterwards. It's indelible in my mind. I'll never 907 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 1: forget it. And in my mind, there's only one place 908 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: that would out do that parade in Philadelphia. And um, 909 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,399 Speaker 1: and we're here right now, so I'm really excited about 910 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 1: getting the work. Cleveland Brown's Daily brought to you by 911 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: Bally Bet, Coming soon to Ohio on ESPN Cleveland. All right, 912 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 1: second hour here, Clean Browns Daily, brought you by baallely Bet, 913 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: coming soon to Ohio. Bo Bishop Gerard Cherry with you 914 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: here for the final hour. As we were for the 915 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: first hour. You're Jim Schwartz talking about that Super Bowl 916 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: and Philly. As he's talking, I'm thinking to myself, Um, 917 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: and it goes both ways too. I mean, if if 918 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,800 Speaker 1: Seattle runs the ball to Marshawn Lynch, then the Patriots 919 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: don't have that super Bowl, but there's also the two 920 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: Giants ones are just crazy. The circumstances of those two losses, 921 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: and that Philly loss was the same, the fact that, 922 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: like Nick Foles, was that that was gonna happen. That 923 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: Philly team was legit, but that run was storybook. At 924 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: the what ifs on the Patriots run, it really could 925 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,760 Speaker 1: have been more, And yeah, you could take one away, 926 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,439 Speaker 1: but it really could have been more. You could have Maybe. 927 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: I was at their first one, the one down in 928 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: New Orleans with the Venetieri kick, when they when everyone 929 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: I'll never forget listening to the I was in the 930 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: stadium and they had the maddened summer all piped in 931 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: and saying, you know, mad and I'm sure I'm almost 932 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: positive I remember this pretty vividly. They gotta, you know, 933 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: play for overtime. He said that, Yeah, nope, I don't 934 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: think so we're gonna win it. Yeah. I think Bill 935 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,359 Speaker 1: felt that they were getting their momentum back and when 936 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: everything that we were doing was starting not to work 937 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: and at the time was running out. So he made 938 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: this stute decision. And I would go as far as 939 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: saying far as my time there bo. We start off 940 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: that since that next year on Fire four and oh, 941 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: but then we start doing all the things that teams 942 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 1: unfortunately do you start, as my mom would say, smelling 943 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 1: yourself and believe in that you're all that and then 944 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: some and you don't start doing things necessary to stay 945 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: at the top because you're getting everyone's A plus effort. 946 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: So we went on this losing streak basically in the 947 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 1: middle part of the season, and then when we start 948 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: to get back on track, it was down to us 949 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: and the Browns of all teams for who was gonna 950 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. And I believe we need the Jets 951 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: to win or something like that, because it was no 952 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: longer in our hands. The Jets did not come through. 953 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 1: The Browns were in the playoffs and end up losing 954 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: that playoff game. I believe that this Pittsburgh steels like Pittsburgh. 955 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 1: But I do know this. Had we got in the playoffs, 956 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm pretty certain I'd be a four time Super Bowl champion. 957 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 1: I think. I think that's true. People. You forget about 958 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: that one, right, I Mean, that's how that's how fragile 959 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 1: these moments are. And that's what's so amazing about that 960 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: run that you were a part of. Is is to 961 00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 1: have it bats m hm. That consistent at bats bites 962 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 1: at the Apple. That's all you asked for is to 963 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,919 Speaker 1: have those, and you had a lot of them. Um, 964 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 1: the bites at the Apple are going to be very different. Uh. 965 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:13,439 Speaker 1: In Baltimore, as Greg Roman is out as offensive coordinator. Um, 966 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: it was said today that it was you know, he's 967 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 1: gonna pursue their opportunities. I don't read it that way 968 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: at all. Um too. This could be jumping to conclusions, 969 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: but that's what we do in sportstock radio. It feels 970 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 1: to me like we're going to change in direction of 971 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 1: the way we play offensive football. Right. It makes all 972 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: sense of the world because you do not any no 973 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 1: organization wants to be held hostage by one player. And 974 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: I don't fault Lamar for the approach that he took, 975 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 1: because in a lot of ways I also blame Baltimore. One, 976 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: you have him conversations with him about his worth. You 977 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 1: should have said, you know what, Lamar, we're not comfortable 978 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 1: with this conversation. Have someone represents you and because you 979 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: obviously overestimate what you thought the relationship was. And then 980 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: you pay a guy who has not even been on 981 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: their squad for entire year. In Smith the highest paid 982 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 1: linebacker of all time, and he hasn't been there for 983 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 1: a year. So imagine how that's gonna how Jackson is 984 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: gonna perceive that he's been that entirety of his career. 985 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,799 Speaker 1: So you went wrong in that regard. And then the 986 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 1: other part simply is Lamarck is simply be like, you 987 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 1: know what I am Team doctors will I'm ruling myself 988 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 1: out like he did this past weekend. You can't have 989 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: that and maintain a winning culture. Harbaugh knows that, Ozzi 990 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,320 Speaker 1: Knewsome knows that, and the other guys who are about 991 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: that coach because it is a winning culture. They do 992 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 1: do that understand it can't be about one guy, and 993 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: they may have to move on. They should move on. 994 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 1: Be honest with you. There the word everything you just 995 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: said there that you laid out so eloquently, all of 996 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 1: the things, the common denominator is the word trust. When 997 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: trust is lost between an athlete and an organization, or 998 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: an athlete and a coach or vice versa, it's done 999 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 1: and you can't get it back. You can act like it, 1000 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 1: but it's there's always colonels that are back there and 1001 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 1: they could come back and they could franchise him and 1002 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: make him but it's cooked and maybe they realize that too. Um. 1003 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 1: But but that's a big move in our division in 1004 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 1: terms of what the trajectory because that defense is a deal. 1005 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,399 Speaker 1: It's a full day um. And if if they want 1006 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 1: to move into more traditional style at quarterback, we know 1007 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 1: Derek Carr is gonna be available. Who knows how else 1008 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: this thing could play out for the course of the 1009 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 1: next month or so. Um. You know, you you go 1010 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: back to a year ago at this time, who did 1011 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 1: you think would be available and then who ended up 1012 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 1: being available? It was kind of two different things. So 1013 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,839 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. But that's big news out of Baltimore. UM. 1014 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: Speaking of coordinators moving on the Buccaneers and fired Up. 1015 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 1: That's coordinator Byron left, which after four seasons with the team. Gerard, 1016 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: he went from a year ago being like maybe this 1017 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,320 Speaker 1: guy is gonna be a head coach to now jobless 1018 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 1: done right? Think about that comes at you quick. Yeah, 1019 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: it feels like it had to happen. They were a 1020 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:44,439 Speaker 1: bad football team this year. Get though, if this is this, this, this, this, 1021 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,879 Speaker 1: this weird dichotomy in that bow. All right he called 1022 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,359 Speaker 1: a ton of Now did he just was it him 1023 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:52,840 Speaker 1: who said you know what time I want you to 1024 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 1: throw like six other times? Who wasn't the fact that 1025 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: the running sixty six times Monday? That was just Monday. 1026 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,399 Speaker 1: To think about the time his flates mid forties. Throwing 1027 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,720 Speaker 1: that many times in the football season makes no sense. 1028 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 1: We're starters, so why not established run? So if he 1029 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 1: was making those calls that I questioned and scratch my 1030 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,959 Speaker 1: head like, okay, that makes no sense. So I hits, 1031 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: I get the firing because I think it still though 1032 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 1: the major thing on that is and I can't see 1033 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,879 Speaker 1: Tom throwing someone on the bus. But maybe he simply was, hey, man, 1034 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna try to go in another direction. You got 1035 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: somebody you like and they went there with it, so 1036 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 1: we'll see. Obviously. Yeah, NFL announcing today there will be 1037 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: five games in Europe next season, and uh that would 1038 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 1: have been fun, right, Bills, Titans, and Jaguars designated home 1039 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 1: teams for the games in London, and then Chiefs and 1040 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,880 Speaker 1: Patriots designated for the home teams for the games in Germany. 1041 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 1: So no European trips for US next year. That's coming 1042 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: for sure. That that that league, in that European League 1043 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 1: is I give it ten to fifteen years. Mann figure 1044 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 1: out some way to have teams. We're gonna have a couple, 1045 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: you need three, you need probably four over there in 1046 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: order to make it so that the travel would work. 1047 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: Anybody's gonna have to travel, and then obviously they're gonna 1048 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,919 Speaker 1: have to have extended times in which they're over here, 1049 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,919 Speaker 1: and they just pretty much camp out on the East 1050 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 1: coast for two or three weeks on the West coast 1051 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 1: and vice versa. So there's logistics. I'm already planning it out. 1052 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 1: I see it happening. I agree with you. I think 1053 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: it's happening too in Germany is ready for it, England's 1054 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 1: ready for it. So I don't think it's that hard 1055 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 1: to do. There's a ton of money in it, which 1056 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 1: drives all of this stuff. The thing that I was 1057 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 1: most excited about was the idea of Andy Reid in 1058 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 1: Germany eating and drinking for everybody. Andy Reid I played 1059 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 1: with with the Eagles, yea, And I never understood that 1060 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,279 Speaker 1: because I got to the team like the third or 1061 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 1: fourth game of the season, and I'm like, why is 1062 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 1: this dude always talking about hamburgers in particular, Let's go 1063 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,879 Speaker 1: out there, guys and get some cheeseburgers. I'm like, this 1064 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 1: is the whack ist go out there, get ready for 1065 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 1: games speech up at her in my life, Let's go 1066 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 1: get some cheeseburgers. So it just goes to show you 1067 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 1: you do not have to be new in order to 1068 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 1: be very successful as a coach. So that's why that 1069 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,879 Speaker 1: was so special when they gave him the cheeseburger at 1070 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 1: the end of the season this year and the cliff 1071 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: that went viral. He's been saying that for twenty years. Yeah, 1072 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 1: cheeseburger's I don't get it. That's so fun. Don't get it. 1073 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 1: Oh that's great. Ram's defensive tackle Aaron Donald, indicates he's 1074 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 1: not retiring this offseason for his response to Peter Schreger, 1075 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 1: I'm playing. Never said I wasn't um. Also, I heard 1076 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 1: Chris Long, who knows Aaron from they were both with 1077 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,479 Speaker 1: the Rams, saying that he wouldn't be surprised you played 1078 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,319 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh or Philly, which leads me to believe that 1079 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna try to get his way out of l A, 1080 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 1: which would make sense for him. Well, I don't meet him. 1081 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: I do not want him. That would hurt our Vielains 1082 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 1: and Watson's. But yeah, man, that I don't want to 1083 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 1: retire because I love the commercials that he's involved in. 1084 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: You see that woman with Aaron very very good. Um 1085 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 1: Steeler's offense scorting Mac Canada will return to the team 1086 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:02,799 Speaker 1: in But it didn't me too, because don't do that. 1087 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,879 Speaker 1: They don't fall into that type of pressure. They stick 1088 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: with their guys. They do. Uh, let's follow, Let's do 1089 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 1: a couple of quisk acts CBD s h this from 1090 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 1: Jersey Dog. What speedy wide receivers to the brown side 1091 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,719 Speaker 1: trade for. I mean, there's not a lot out there 1092 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 1: in free agency. It's not it's not impressive Rooper candidates. No, 1093 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 1: and I also and we're gonna do it because it's 1094 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: what we do. But when we start projecting like the 1095 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 1: forty pick in the draft, I mean, that's tough. That's 1096 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: really tough to be able to do. So there will 1097 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 1: be a guy in the draft and they need to 1098 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,479 Speaker 1: hit on it. It's something that they need. My hunch 1099 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 1: would be that it will be easy to pursue defensive 1100 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 1: line and tackle via free agency and easier to pursue 1101 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 1: the receiver in the draft. From a quality standpoint, you 1102 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: you're probably right both. But here's the thing about receivers. 1103 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 1: You can find a guy in the fifth sixth round 1104 00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,399 Speaker 1: as Hey, okay, I'm not asking you do on every 1105 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,919 Speaker 1: route to way Amari Cooper does. But can you get deep? 1106 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 1: Can you beat guys off the learning scrimmage? And can 1107 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 1: you blow the top off a coverage? And do you 1108 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 1: run under a four four with your shoulder pads on? 1109 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 1: That's an important part of it. Yeah, And if you 1110 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 1: can do that, you can might work. You can make 1111 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 1: this clean work. That's a that's a requirement. Absolutely. This 1112 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,240 Speaker 1: from John Clee. He says, what's your go to sandwich? 1113 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 1: You have a go to sandwich, drod. Oh, my man. 1114 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 1: They must know me because I am the sandwich king. 1115 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 1: I make a sandwich out of everything. Bo you gave 1116 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,840 Speaker 1: me two pieces of bread. It could be meat, loafing 1117 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 1: ball or whatever. I can make a spaghetti even I 1118 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 1: can make a sandwich out. But if I also say 1119 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 1: my go to sandwich one that I like, I have 1120 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 1: to give you two dog. I'm sorry. I love sandwich 1121 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,880 Speaker 1: as much. This is a serious topic. It's gonna be 1122 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 1: it's gonna be the Cuban yep. And you can do 1123 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 1: a variation with that. You can sometimes substitute the hand 1124 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: with roast beef. I like it. And also nothing is 1125 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,800 Speaker 1: better than a club man a club sandwich classic club 1126 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 1: with bacon at Mayo and so cool. Let us it's 1127 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 1: of such a win. It's funny, I um, as you 1128 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 1: were going through all of that in the first sample, 1129 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,319 Speaker 1: like the my favorite sandwich that I've ever had, and 1130 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 1: I only can you could I only get him at 1131 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 1: public public sub in Florida. Uh, the roast beef sub fire. 1132 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Oh they're all home runs. I mean 1133 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 1: the public sub. It's a different level. I go to 1134 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,279 Speaker 1: that grocery store just for lunch when Flora or in 1135 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 1: Florida in general, straight there giving a subway. Yeah, we 1136 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,800 Speaker 1: do the roast beef with the with the onions, tomatoes, Uh, salt, pepper, 1137 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,440 Speaker 1: Vito oil and just a little male just it's simple, 1138 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 1: but it's I don't know what it is, but it's perfect, 1139 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 1: real quick. This one from Drew Dutton um from the 1140 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: Yellowstone Dutton Ranch. He says, thanks for doing it, You're welcome, Drew, 1141 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,840 Speaker 1: happy to help. He said, if you had to drink 1142 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 1: one soup for all your hydration needs for the rest 1143 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:05,279 Speaker 1: of your life. What would it be one soup? Yeah, 1144 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 1: that's easy. My guys at a Laddin do of like 1145 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,760 Speaker 1: it's called a V nine. It's really good veggie soup 1146 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 1: and I feel like I could just eat that forever 1147 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 1: and be ultra healthy. Right, So there you go. How 1148 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,840 Speaker 1: many times have you been to California? You might be 1149 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,400 Speaker 1: familiar with this lots? Yeah, were I was married out there. 1150 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 1: So this is a spot called Anderson's. This is in 1151 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,880 Speaker 1: the grape Vine. They have this split Peace soup, some 1152 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 1: the best soup. We got it shipped to us. Oh yeah, 1153 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 1: they shipped us. We were talking about it. Yeah, they 1154 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:42,839 Speaker 1: shipped it. It's amazing. Yeah, fantastic, great question, Young Drew 1155 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 1: h from out West. All right, coming up next, Eagles 1156 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 1: insider Dave Spinnaer joins us to preview the Giants and 1157 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,880 Speaker 1: the Eagles. That's coming up next. We the scores, the 1158 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,840 Speaker 1: over unders coming up as well. You listen to Cleveland 1159 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 1: Brown's Daily brought to you by Bally Bet coming soon 1160 00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 1: to Ohio on a fifty yesp in Cleveland. 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We was here at camp. We 1171 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 1: talked to him then. It was a lot of fun. 1172 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 1: Your team delivered ours, did not. I guess before we 1173 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:44,920 Speaker 1: get to Schwartz and all the rest of it, what 1174 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 1: has this ride been like with this Eagles team? You 1175 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 1: talked in camp. You were high on him, Dave. I 1176 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: remember talking to you in camp how high you were 1177 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 1: on him? Did they exceed at their best what you 1178 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: thought they would be or did you think this was 1179 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 1: all in play this season for them? Yeah? I don't know. 1180 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,480 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think they really. I mean, when 1181 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 1: you won't when you win the fourteen games in the 1182 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 1: regular season, I'm not sure anybody really sees that necessarily. 1183 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought would be a really good team. 1184 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 1: I think I think the feeling right now, guys honestly 1185 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 1: is that it's it's you. There's there's so much more 1186 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 1: to accomplish. So I can't really say that they've accomplished 1187 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 1: what I've expected him too, because when you go into 1188 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 1: a season and you know you have a good team, 1189 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,040 Speaker 1: and I think I've been around long enough to see 1190 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 1: a really good team in the making that you just 1191 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 1: you you expect more. So, um, it is a very 1192 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 1: good football team. They're really deep. Uh. The way that 1193 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 1: Howie Roseman has bolstered the roster throughout the season, I 1194 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 1: mean made such a huge difference, and the way the 1195 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 1: quarterback grew into a legitimate m VP candidate who just 1196 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 1: I mean answered every single question. Um, I think there's 1197 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,240 Speaker 1: more more ahead here for this football team. Certainly to 1198 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 1: this point it has been impressive and and there were 1199 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 1: times when you just kind of like watched them in 1200 00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 1: like a video game and the way they were points 1201 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,959 Speaker 1: in the big plays and domination and so um, all 1202 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 1: in all, I mean I think that, um, it's certainly 1203 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 1: probably the best regular season I've seen, and that includes 1204 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 1: two thousand four which is an outstanding team, thirteen and 1205 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 1: one before they rested their regulars um TiO got hurt 1206 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 1: at the end of the season. There. Two thousand seventeen 1207 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 1: really really dominated. Carson Wentz got injured late in the season. 1208 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,040 Speaker 1: They kind of struggled down the stretch as this team did, 1209 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 1: so there are similarities there, but I think all in all, 1210 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:37,000 Speaker 1: this this is probably the best regular season Eagles team 1211 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 1: I've seen. And Dave, thanks again for joining us. And 1212 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 1: I've been saying this at nauseum because I'm a big 1213 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 1: guy on preseason training camp and I'm convinced that one 1214 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 1: of the reasons why this football team has done so 1215 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 1: well this season, in particular, is how they approached training 1216 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 1: camp and that they were like man O Mission, that 1217 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 1: they were gone constantly. Obviously there's ladies in organizations as well, 1218 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,800 Speaker 1: but the organizations self, you go to one place, you practice, 1219 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 1: you go to another place and practice, and how they 1220 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,880 Speaker 1: approach training camp. Can you give us some more inside that, 1221 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 1: because I've been preaching it that we need to take 1222 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,080 Speaker 1: that approach of practice against who you can practice since 1223 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 1: the games itself doesn't take on that grave a meeting 1224 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 1: because of shortening of it. Yeah, it's so interesting because 1225 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 1: over the years, obviously training camp has changed, and and 1226 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 1: there are times frankly when you go it's certainly when veterans, 1227 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, former players come back and they stand in 1228 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,840 Speaker 1: the sidelines and they watch training camp these days, they go, 1229 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 1: what in the world is this our in fort a 1230 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 1: minute practice? Why isn't anybody getting tackled? Why isn't there 1231 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, blood on the field. Um, I think the 1232 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,600 Speaker 1: joint practices are tremendously valuable, and in fact, I really 1233 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 1: I still recall and and and bring to light things 1234 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 1: I saw in the practices against the Browns for example. 1235 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 1: You know, those practices really brought to some like when 1236 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:58,040 Speaker 1: you blitz the Eagles, what's the answer gonna be? So 1237 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 1: we saw and you know, first game of the regular season, 1238 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 1: the Lion splitz Eagles. The answer is Jalen Hurst takes 1239 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 1: off and runs, and that backs off the blitz and 1240 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,600 Speaker 1: and so then then and then when Jalen wasn't in 1241 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 1: the lineup for a couple of games and Dallas and 1242 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,440 Speaker 1: then the Saints put pressure on the backfield gardnerment, you 1243 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 1: didn't have that ability to take off and run, so 1244 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 1: it really stymied the offense. But I think that practicing 1245 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 1: and remember the Eagles were in Cleveland and then Miami 1246 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:29,760 Speaker 1: back to back, so we came home for like thirty 1247 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 1: six hours and it was it was it was a 1248 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 1: really good time to bond. It was a very taxing 1249 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 1: time because frankly, at the end of that Miami trip 1250 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,680 Speaker 1: in the preseason finale was just a disaster. The Eagles 1251 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 1: got blown out by the Dolphins. Put by the end 1252 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 1: of that everybody was like, let's get the heck home. 1253 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 1: This is too long away. But I think it really 1254 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 1: did pay benefits that you have seen throughout the season 1255 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,160 Speaker 1: and um, you know they did the Eagles practice there. 1256 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 1: It's a very concise practice, that's a very intense practice. 1257 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:59,160 Speaker 1: It's actually more of an emphasis on fundamentals and and 1258 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 1: you and you see the playoffs, things like you know, 1259 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:06,080 Speaker 1: ineligible man down field penalties and uh pre snap penalties 1260 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 1: and things that you would practice in a training camp 1261 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,720 Speaker 1: environment that have come back to bite teams that maybe 1262 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 1: aren't as kind of pay attention to the to the 1263 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 1: details like this team has. And in one area that 1264 01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 1: I'll really emphasize here is that you know, giveaway takeaways. 1265 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,440 Speaker 1: Throughout the season, Eagles were far and away the best 1266 01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,960 Speaker 1: in the NFL in that category and the takeover in 1267 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,080 Speaker 1: the in the turnover category plus fifteen at one point 1268 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 1: this season. Now down the stretch, they really struggled. A 1269 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,240 Speaker 1: tough game in Dallas with Minshew, tough game against New 1270 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 1: Orleans with Minshew. Uh. They finished at a plus eight. 1271 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,560 Speaker 1: So it's still okay, But you saw how much they 1272 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,160 Speaker 1: struggled in games where they gave the football away. Washington 1273 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:54,120 Speaker 1: lose Dallas, four turnovers, lost, big turnover against the Saints, 1274 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 1: pick six, lost that game. So um, those kind of things. 1275 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,320 Speaker 1: That was something they work on. Rep rep Bread emphasized, emphasized, 1276 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 1: emphasized in training camp and in practices, which are no 1277 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,920 Speaker 1: longer the two and a half three hour practices that 1278 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,560 Speaker 1: we enjoyed so much as fans in the in the 1279 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 1: good old days. Now it's get in, get out, but 1280 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,000 Speaker 1: make sure the work matters well, the work the work 1281 01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 1: was putting. I mean, as soon as you guys got 1282 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,600 Speaker 1: up the bus, it was like and you saw the 1283 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 1: defensive line, we remember thinking like, okay, this is a 1284 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,040 Speaker 1: different look here. I mean, so you knew that was 1285 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,200 Speaker 1: gonna be the case. But I remember asking you this 1286 01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 1: Dave in camp, saying, well, what do you make of Hurts? Like, 1287 01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 1: is he really this was it was a fun first season. 1288 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,080 Speaker 1: Is is he ready to elevate into something special? And 1289 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:37,040 Speaker 1: emboided he ever? So two parter um, what's his health 1290 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,640 Speaker 1: gonna be like for Saturday? Is he all the way back? 1291 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 1: And and then the second thing would be how did 1292 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:46,320 Speaker 1: he transform into I mean, he might not win the MVP, 1293 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 1: it will probably be Mahomes, but he's probably gonna be 1294 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 1: the second pick. That's a remarkable thing for a kid 1295 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 1: who coming out of Alabama, a lot of people didn't 1296 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,080 Speaker 1: know that Union had a future at quarterback. Yeah. I 1297 01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 1: would say that from first of all, the health standpoint, 1298 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 1: he's find he's all the injury list, Um, so you 1299 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 1: know that's an indication that he I think you'll see 1300 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:08,000 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts be Jalen Hurts on Saturday Night against the Giants. 1301 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 1: Now is the all the way all the way, all 1302 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,560 Speaker 1: the way back. I mean, there's still pain that he's 1303 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 1: got to deal with in the shoulder, but I don't 1304 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,240 Speaker 1: think there's any concerned. Look, I mean, he's still got 1305 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 1: to get down when he's running he's still got to 1306 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 1: get a bounce, avoid to avoid hits. But in the 1307 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,320 Speaker 1: finale against the Giants, I mean there was almost an edict, 1308 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 1: do not run, do not put yourself in jeopardy. Let's 1309 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,880 Speaker 1: figure out a way to win this game against the Giants. 1310 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:33,280 Speaker 1: Backups with a you know, uh half half an offensive scheme, 1311 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,960 Speaker 1: and do not get hurt. Um. So he didn't run. 1312 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 1: But in this game on Saturday night, I think he'll 1313 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,120 Speaker 1: see him. If there's running lanes, he'll take him. I mean, 1314 01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: this is the playoffs. You win or you go home. 1315 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,440 Speaker 1: There's there's no holding back, and I don't think Jalen 1316 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,160 Speaker 1: will hold back at all. And I think from a 1317 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 1: throwing standpoint, he's he's perfectly fine. I think one thing 1318 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 1: that really has happened with Jalen Look, I mean there's 1319 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 1: a lot of pieces around him. So I'll give a 1320 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:55,720 Speaker 1: lot of credit to to what the Eagles have put 1321 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 1: around him. Great offensive line, good running game, outstanding receivers 1322 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:03,240 Speaker 1: and tight and Jalen has worked extremely hard on his mechanics. 1323 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 1: He gets rid of the football much faster. Second year 1324 01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,320 Speaker 1: in the system. We talked about it back in the summer, 1325 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,720 Speaker 1: means a ton and this is the first time since 1326 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,600 Speaker 1: high school that he's been in the same scheme for 1327 01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 1: two straight years, so he gets to learn the second 1328 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 1: year of the language, and he's been much more decisive, 1329 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,920 Speaker 1: much more understanding of the concepts where to go with 1330 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:31,960 Speaker 1: the football, throwing the spots. Uh, he just really is 1331 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,560 Speaker 1: in command when he's on the field. He's always been unflappable, 1332 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,760 Speaker 1: but you know there's an element last year where well, 1333 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 1: I'll make a read and if it's not there, I'm 1334 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,280 Speaker 1: gonna run. He doesn't do that anymore. He's certainly much 1335 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,280 Speaker 1: more patient in the pocket, but he's much much faster 1336 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,000 Speaker 1: in his decision making. I think that makes a huge difference. 1337 01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 1: And I think, like with you guys, Deshaun Watson, like 1338 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,600 Speaker 1: he comes back after basically missing two seasons, you know, 1339 01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:54,920 Speaker 1: what do you expect from him? Well, you're gonna see 1340 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,560 Speaker 1: a totally different quarterback next year because he's in a 1341 01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,560 Speaker 1: system for a second year. He's playing for a second 1342 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,560 Speaker 1: straight year, and you know, it's just it's just it 1343 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,520 Speaker 1: becomes natural instead of working through it and kind of 1344 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,760 Speaker 1: like a thinking before you play with Jalen this year 1345 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 1: was very very instinctual, and you still a quarterback playing 1346 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,120 Speaker 1: at a high, high speed. And Dave, you give me 1347 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 1: an excellent segue, because speaking of seeing another quarterback, I 1348 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,560 Speaker 1: think you're gonna see another quarterback a different one that 1349 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,560 Speaker 1: is in Daniel Jones, because I don't think he's the 1350 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,520 Speaker 1: same guy that you played against the first time around, 1351 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 1: for sure, but he seems like he has elevated his 1352 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,680 Speaker 1: game tremendously. Have guys on that in that locker room, 1353 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 1: and the coaches as well taking note of how Daniel 1354 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,680 Speaker 1: Jones with Giants is playing at a higher level. Oh 1355 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,560 Speaker 1: my gosh. Yeah. And and one really great perspective is 1356 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,280 Speaker 1: it comes from James bradberry Um, who was a quarterback 1357 01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,200 Speaker 1: with the Giants for two years. The Giants released him. 1358 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 1: He comes to the Philadelphia Eagles, he becomes a second 1359 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,919 Speaker 1: team All Pro. He's an outstanding season. And in New York, 1360 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, there are injuries on the offensive line and 1361 01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,640 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, Daniel Jones took major hits and was banged up, 1362 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,200 Speaker 1: and they didn't really didn't have the weapons. Wide receivers 1363 01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 1: hurt and and there, and and so the Giants didn't 1364 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,640 Speaker 1: picked up a fifth year option, and there was a 1365 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,320 Speaker 1: lot of Daniel Jones which will never be that guy. 1366 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:08,320 Speaker 1: And Bradberry told me yesterday that he was always very 1367 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,439 Speaker 1: respectful of of Jones, who who kept his mouth shut, 1368 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,000 Speaker 1: who worked really hard. He sat in the front of 1369 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,440 Speaker 1: the room taking notes. You could see the talent. He 1370 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 1: was a tough guy. They just didn't have They really 1371 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,600 Speaker 1: just didn't play to his talent. It was it was 1372 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 1: kind of like trying to fit this offense without the pieces. 1373 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 1: And now, what I think the Jariants have done in 1374 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,600 Speaker 1: with the players and coaches here certainly understand is they 1375 01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,120 Speaker 1: have built an offense around the skills that they have, 1376 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 1: around his mobility, around sat Kwan Barclay's dual threat ability 1377 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 1: as a running back and as a receiver. And Daniel Jones, 1378 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:44,880 Speaker 1: I mean, my gosh, what do you the way he 1379 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:50,280 Speaker 1: played in Minnesota three yards passing, two touchdowns, eight yards rushing, 1380 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 1: a record in in the NFL for postseason quarterbacks on 1381 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:58,760 Speaker 1: the ground. I mean tremendous performance. Um tough guy. Eagles 1382 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,440 Speaker 1: know that he's gonna run a ton of boo legs. 1383 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna try to get outside the pocket. They're gonna 1384 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,280 Speaker 1: have designed runs. He's gonna keep plays alive with his legs. 1385 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,360 Speaker 1: The defensive linemen are dreading this chase that they're gonna 1386 01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,760 Speaker 1: have on Saturday night. And by the way, he's got 1387 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,440 Speaker 1: a huge arm with some receivers that he really trusts. 1388 01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,680 Speaker 1: So it is a totally different quarterback, a totally different team. 1389 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,320 Speaker 1: And the Giants have done a great job under Brian 1390 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,320 Speaker 1: Dable of turning things around very quickly. Dave, I'll get 1391 01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,280 Speaker 1: you out of here on this one. Jim Schwartz introduced 1392 01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,680 Speaker 1: here yesterday. Um, he was at the top of the 1393 01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:29,560 Speaker 1: list over here. They made the higher and shorter or 1394 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,800 Speaker 1: you're obviously very familiar. What can our defense? What can 1395 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 1: our fans expect out of a Jim Schwartz defense next season? 1396 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,160 Speaker 1: So Jim Schwartz, I think it's a great higher. I mean, 1397 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,400 Speaker 1: he was so instrumental in the Super Bowl season for 1398 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,720 Speaker 1: the Eagles, even before that, when the Eagles were going 1399 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,640 Speaker 1: through all these injuries in previous years terrific and and 1400 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:54,880 Speaker 1: in post years um of defense always keeping the team 1401 01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,800 Speaker 1: in games. Uh, takes the football away. Now he will 1402 01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,200 Speaker 1: not list a toime. And the reason he does blitz 1403 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:01,640 Speaker 1: a ton of because he hopes he doesn't have to. 1404 01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,120 Speaker 1: And he's always relied on an outstanding front in which 1405 01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,799 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns have. And if your front is winning, 1406 01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,760 Speaker 1: you will see coverages on the back end that makes 1407 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,960 Speaker 1: a lot that work very well. In kandem, you're not 1408 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,439 Speaker 1: gonna see a lot of busts or big plays. Um. 1409 01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,360 Speaker 1: I look in Philly. If you don't blitz, Philadelphia is 1410 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,120 Speaker 1: so in love with what Buddy Ryan did a hundred 1411 01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 1: years ago. I mean even today, Jonathan Gannon gets a 1412 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,880 Speaker 1: ton of criticism because he doesn't bluittz up. He doesn't 1413 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 1: blitz enough. Well. Eagles are like one of the top 1414 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,400 Speaker 1: three defenses in the NFL, and for some Eagles fans 1415 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:34,880 Speaker 1: that's not enough. And a team that took the football away, 1416 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:36,679 Speaker 1: I think it's at a rate of the third most 1417 01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL. So so team. If you're expecting Jim 1418 01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,000 Speaker 1: to blitz a lot, it's not gonna happen. He really 1419 01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:47,559 Speaker 1: relies on a great front four, very sound defensively, excellent communicator. Uh, 1420 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna have great leaderships, are gonna be tough. I 1421 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,320 Speaker 1: think he's a great fit for Cleveland. Not surprised at 1422 01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,960 Speaker 1: all that his quote unquote retirement didn't laugh because Jim 1423 01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,200 Speaker 1: is a football is junkie, and um, it's gonna really 1424 01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,680 Speaker 1: really cerebral guy, interesting guy. I love. I love the man. 1425 01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,519 Speaker 1: I think he's extremely fun guy to deal with and 1426 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,160 Speaker 1: as a as a coach, and impress conferences the fans, 1427 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,320 Speaker 1: You'll get great answers, You'll hear a lot of football ease. 1428 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,679 Speaker 1: He'll he'll speak it like it is. UM. He will 1429 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,600 Speaker 1: be very tough on his players. UM. And if you 1430 01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 1: could build a good front, if you're really happy with 1431 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,000 Speaker 1: your front, uh, then then the rest will follow him. 1432 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,799 Speaker 1: And I know Cleveland has a lot of pieces on defense. 1433 01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,120 Speaker 1: I know there were several injuries that were really key. 1434 01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,479 Speaker 1: And look, Jim's not gonna give up big plays, but 1435 01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna produce a lot. You're gonna get a lot 1436 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,479 Speaker 1: of sacks. And I just think your defense is gonna 1437 01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,200 Speaker 1: take a big jump forward. I really believe in Jim Schwartz. 1438 01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,599 Speaker 1: I was very surprised when he said he was going 1439 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,080 Speaker 1: to step away from the game. Now, not surprised at 1440 01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 1: all that he he was with Tennessee last year. Good 1441 01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:50,360 Speaker 1: defense there until injuries took apart that defense. And UM 1442 01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,000 Speaker 1: ready to go in Cleveland, And I think you're gonna 1443 01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,240 Speaker 1: really enjoy Jim Schwartz as your coordinator, Dave. We always 1444 01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 1: enjoy every bit of time you give us. Thanks for 1445 01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,360 Speaker 1: giving us a little bit of it today, and good 1446 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,679 Speaker 1: luck this weekend. The Eagles should be a fun one. Hey, 1447 01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,639 Speaker 1: thank you so much. And maybe we'll see you next summer. 1448 01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 1: Maybe you guys will be coming to Philly. We'd love to. 1449 01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:07,960 Speaker 1: I'd love to do it. That'd be that'd be a ball, 1450 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,720 Speaker 1: that'd be great. Thanks man. All right, guys, thank you, 1451 01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,360 Speaker 1: take care of a great weekend. All right. That's Dave Spidari. 1452 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,559 Speaker 1: He's the best man on the Twisted T Hard Iced 1453 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 1: Tea hotline official sponsor for your Cleveland Browns. Keep it twisted, Cleveland, 1454 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:22,000 Speaker 1: We'll hit the over under game. Will do a Thursday 1455 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,639 Speaker 1: edition of the scores coming up as well. You listen 1456 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:26,760 Speaker 1: to Cleve the Browns Daily, brought to you by baally Bet, 1457 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:35,960 Speaker 1: Coming soon, Ohio on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. Cleveland Browns 1458 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,519 Speaker 1: Daily brought to you by bally Bet, Coming soon to 1459 01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:46,760 Speaker 1: Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, Hi, Welcome back to 1460 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,720 Speaker 1: Cleve the Browns Daily, brought to you by bally Bet, 1461 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,600 Speaker 1: Coming soon, Ohio on eight fifty ESPN. Cleveland. Boon and 1462 01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,479 Speaker 1: Gerard with you as we have been for the first 1463 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,720 Speaker 1: hour and a half of this program. Join now on 1464 01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,120 Speaker 1: the hot line by give a Give It. You can 1465 01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:03,080 Speaker 1: play golf here today. It's sunny and like fifty really, 1466 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:08,920 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm sure, well it would be. The clubs 1467 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,240 Speaker 1: are not here yet. I'm still that they'll come tomorrow. 1468 01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:16,280 Speaker 1: But that's okay because, uh, just a lot to do, 1469 01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:20,200 Speaker 1: just opening up the the in Laws establishment down here, 1470 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,400 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, with a little bit of hurricane damage, 1471 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:29,160 Speaker 1: so uh everything okay, Yeah, we're getting there. I'll tell 1472 01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,599 Speaker 1: you what. There's a lot of people down here, and 1473 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,439 Speaker 1: not to start off all serious, but there's a lot 1474 01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,240 Speaker 1: of people down here that still need a lot of help. 1475 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,280 Speaker 1: And I think that people, you know, for about a 1476 01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 1: week every it's top of mind and then it kind 1477 01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:44,000 Speaker 1: of goes away. But there's like there's people living on 1478 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,599 Speaker 1: the beach down here, intense that they don't have anywhere 1479 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:52,679 Speaker 1: else to go. Yeah, it's one. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, 1480 01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,439 Speaker 1: you those saying it those we are so a d 1481 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,040 Speaker 1: D as a society. Now, like something happens, we're onto 1482 01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,400 Speaker 1: the next thing, and it's like, well there's still living 1483 01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,439 Speaker 1: it and have been for a long time. Um. Absolutely 1484 01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,639 Speaker 1: brutal there. On a lighter note, how close you send 1485 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:11,320 Speaker 1: a text You and and Hoff and and Z and 1486 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,880 Speaker 1: myself are on a text chain. And as you were described, like, 1487 01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,240 Speaker 1: my night was very different as we're knee deep and 1488 01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 1: flew grossness um and coming out the other side of it. 1489 01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,440 Speaker 1: And your night to me felt a lot like Kramer's 1490 01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:28,040 Speaker 1: at Del Boca Vista um and signed. It felt like 1491 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,679 Speaker 1: you were Kramer, like you were like living your best 1492 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,840 Speaker 1: life amongst in the Del Boca Vista community. I mean, 1493 01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,360 Speaker 1: and you're the d D Like the whole operation felt 1494 01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,800 Speaker 1: like a win for me and you, Well it was. 1495 01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,040 Speaker 1: And we hadn't even gotten to the old homestead. We 1496 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,760 Speaker 1: hadn't even gotten to the compound where everything, you know, 1497 01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,320 Speaker 1: the gated community. Like we got off the plane and 1498 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,000 Speaker 1: by the time we got the rental car and everything, 1499 01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,479 Speaker 1: it was like almost five o'clock and you don't know, 1500 01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:54,519 Speaker 1: whey really eating all day. So it was like, all right, 1501 01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,880 Speaker 1: where can we find a spot? And you know, we 1502 01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,559 Speaker 1: found this this dive, you know, this little die bar 1503 01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,479 Speaker 1: halfway between the airport and you know, we're probably twenty 1504 01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,880 Speaker 1: five minutes from the airport. Stiled a spot for dinner 1505 01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,240 Speaker 1: and we were sitting outside just enjoying the night. Some 1506 01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:12,240 Speaker 1: guy watching goes, you guys want play Bengo for drinks, 1507 01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:16,400 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, of course I do. Yes we do, 1508 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,479 Speaker 1: and yes I'm the we're the youngest people here. But 1509 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:24,439 Speaker 1: that's great, perfect, let's go Frida. Absolutely, I had, I 1510 01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,960 Speaker 1: was playing three different Bengo cards. One of us four drinks. 1511 01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,840 Speaker 1: Um the the in laws had themselves at night. I had, 1512 01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:35,560 Speaker 1: I had to cut it off. Otherwise there four of 1513 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,360 Speaker 1: us would have been in a nice little uber but 1514 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:42,120 Speaker 1: a good time had by all in some fantastic comedy 1515 01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,800 Speaker 1: from the guy running the Bengo table that I feel 1516 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,880 Speaker 1: like went over the heads of the majority of the 1517 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,040 Speaker 1: people in the crowd except for my wife and I. 1518 01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,559 Speaker 1: You guys caught it. Yeah, you guys were the demo. 1519 01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,200 Speaker 1: And I'll say this, like, in a couple of weeks, 1520 01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,160 Speaker 1: you'll be down here, my friends, and it'll be good. 1521 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,680 Speaker 1: I noticed we has not exactly been ideal for you. 1522 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,120 Speaker 1: Are you feeling better? I'm fine. It hit my wife 1523 01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:09,439 Speaker 1: last night. It's it has been the most I just 1524 01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,800 Speaker 1: it was Unbelievable's like a thirty six hour thing. The 1525 01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,719 Speaker 1: first twenty four are brutal death and then the next 1526 01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:17,599 Speaker 1: twelve you start to come out of it a little bit, 1527 01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:23,840 Speaker 1: but it's hit. So it was Bootsy Saturday, UM, Beams Monday, No, yeah, 1528 01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,320 Speaker 1: me Monday, Beams, Tuesday, and the Wednesday, and then my 1529 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:31,200 Speaker 1: wife last night. So NBC has survived somehow, the eleven 1530 01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:34,559 Speaker 1: year old that it's I'm not optimistic, you know that 1531 01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:36,519 Speaker 1: he's gonna be so far he's in the clear. I 1532 01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,280 Speaker 1: don't know how. And I was telling my wife about 1533 01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:41,080 Speaker 1: it, and and she's like, yeah, that's that bug going around. 1534 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,599 Speaker 1: Better be careful because it's gone back around a second time. 1535 01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:47,400 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, I don't know. No, You're right, 1536 01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:49,719 Speaker 1: I don't um. Gerard and I have been talking about 1537 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,040 Speaker 1: this a lot, so Greg Roman out as the offensive 1538 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,679 Speaker 1: coordinator in Baltimore, John Harba saying it is press conference 1539 01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,120 Speaker 1: today Eric to Kasas there as well the GM Lamar 1540 01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,280 Speaker 1: Jackson will be involved in the search for the team's 1541 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,439 Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator. Always take all of this with a 1542 01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,080 Speaker 1: grain of salt, but I do think that that's pretty 1543 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:09,280 Speaker 1: straightforward from an organization that doesn't seem to do anything 1544 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 1: other than be straightforward. Gerarde, what do you make of that? Well, 1545 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,600 Speaker 1: I make of it again, if you have a situation 1546 01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,320 Speaker 1: where if you're gonna fire a guy who's pretty much 1547 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:23,760 Speaker 1: been designated, what creating a offense for Lamar Jackson? Look 1548 01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,000 Speaker 1: at all the backups? Who do they look like? Yeah, 1549 01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,560 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson? Right? And so what are you gonna do 1550 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:30,040 Speaker 1: with that skill set for a guy who knows how 1551 01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,680 Speaker 1: to employ that? So with that in mind, Gibbey and 1552 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:34,960 Speaker 1: bo I'm thinking that this may be a true sign 1553 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:38,160 Speaker 1: that they're saying, Lamar, you're about the exident. Something's gonna happen, 1554 01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:42,360 Speaker 1: because I don't think good organizations and franchises let one 1555 01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,880 Speaker 1: player hold them hostage. I mean even the pages said 1556 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,840 Speaker 1: by the Tom Brady yeah yeah, and Gerarde I would 1557 01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:50,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't tend to agree with. I mean, let's let's 1558 01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,880 Speaker 1: look at the Arizona Cardinals. You know, they fired Cliffs. 1559 01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 1: The GM steps down and the owners like, yeah, the 1560 01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:58,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks gonna help us pick our next coach. And I'm like, 1561 01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,400 Speaker 1: I don't think that's great idea by any stretch. That 1562 01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,599 Speaker 1: guys busy playing video games, like what are we doing here? 1563 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:08,679 Speaker 1: And why would you empower people? Yeah, by the way, 1564 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:13,320 Speaker 1: the offense, it was not Greg Romans fault. The star 1565 01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:17,479 Speaker 1: quarterback hasn't played in December in three seasons. No, yeah, 1566 01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,880 Speaker 1: it's tough. I mean, there's something else going on there 1567 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,240 Speaker 1: and it needs to be addressed sooner rather than later. 1568 01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,839 Speaker 1: And Gerard, you and I talked about it on Tuesday. 1569 01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:30,840 Speaker 1: All the better for us good exactly and also too, 1570 01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:35,320 Speaker 1: like Wet Martindale getting fired by the Ravens, I was like, 1571 01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,120 Speaker 1: well is that all about? What did he do wrong? 1572 01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,200 Speaker 1: So if this is how they're gonna play, let him 1573 01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,160 Speaker 1: play this way now. Granted they still find a way 1574 01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,200 Speaker 1: to make it to the playoffs, letting coaches go, but 1575 01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,760 Speaker 1: at some point it's gonna have to collapse. You keep 1576 01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,160 Speaker 1: doing it this manner of fashion. All right, boys, we 1577 01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:52,439 Speaker 1: got a lot to get to here. We gotta get 1578 01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:54,360 Speaker 1: to some over unders first and then we'll get to 1579 01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:59,240 Speaker 1: the score. So let's hit the am I hearing? Is 1580 01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,880 Speaker 1: the girl too into make an appearance? Right now? This 1581 01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:07,240 Speaker 1: is you said it? I mean, I there's not an 1582 01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:12,120 Speaker 1: evidences today. I hope his buddy's taking all the stretch. 1583 01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:17,240 Speaker 1: So all right over under his first uh last week, 1584 01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,800 Speaker 1: Zagura went five and one, give a three and two. 1585 01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,400 Speaker 1: So za girl's lead over you is grown to three, 1586 01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:30,200 Speaker 1: but the half went oh for five or so. Yeah, 1587 01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,439 Speaker 1: it's it's like a one for fourteen stretch for him 1588 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,559 Speaker 1: right now after getting all the way to the top. 1589 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,599 Speaker 1: So it's it's a two horse race, and you get 1590 01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,519 Speaker 1: a lot of work to do because Za girl won't 1591 01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:40,880 Speaker 1: be able to play off you. So that's a win. 1592 01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,439 Speaker 1: So let's start with this, all right, give a first 1593 01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:47,559 Speaker 1: one for you. Saturday quarterbacks touchdowns accounted for, so that's 1594 01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:52,200 Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns too, versus Sunday quarterbacks touchdowns accounted for. So 1595 01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:56,680 Speaker 1: just for clarification, you get Jacksonville, Kansas City Giants and 1596 01:18:56,720 --> 01:19:03,000 Speaker 1: Eagles or Bengals, Bills, Cowboys forty nine Saturday over or under. 1597 01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:09,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Sunday. Now, what happens if Philly 1598 01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,160 Speaker 1: has got to go to a backup quarterback? Does that 1599 01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,040 Speaker 1: count into That doesn't matter. It's any quarterback, it's not Hurts, 1600 01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:19,280 Speaker 1: it's any alright, n I'm taking Sunday. Welcome to the 1601 01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:22,160 Speaker 1: Man Distaurant. I'm like that was a lot, still trying 1602 01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,000 Speaker 1: to follow a question. I'll just say Saturday, all right, 1603 01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,960 Speaker 1: Gerard's got Saturday, alright, So you went over there's our 1604 01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:35,000 Speaker 1: celebrity picker. All right, so you get Mahomes and Jones 1605 01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:41,720 Speaker 1: passing yards versus Burrow and Alan passing yards. Gerard, I'm 1606 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:50,240 Speaker 1: going Mahomes and Jones. Give I'm going Alan and Burrow 1607 01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,280 Speaker 1: because I think they're both gonna throat till their arms 1608 01:19:52,280 --> 01:20:01,799 Speaker 1: fall off. That's over or under total yardage. McCaffrey and Debo, 1609 01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:08,800 Speaker 1: over under, Pollard, Zeke and Cede Lamb give a this 1610 01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:12,200 Speaker 1: so this mis to you give eight? This is do 1611 01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:16,160 Speaker 1: you give me? Sorry? My fault, my fault. McCaffrey and Devon, 1612 01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:20,920 Speaker 1: polog Zke and CD. I'll go to the forty Niner 1613 01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:24,000 Speaker 1: duo because if one of the Cowboys backs is playing, 1614 01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:27,720 Speaker 1: the other one is watching. So I'm gonna go that route. 1615 01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:32,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go forty Niners, cop n I am going 1616 01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,840 Speaker 1: to go with the Niners as well. Over all right, 1617 01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:43,080 Speaker 1: very good? Next over under sacks, interceptions and fumbles A 1618 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:48,760 Speaker 1: f C total accounted for over under NFC total accounted 1619 01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:52,519 Speaker 1: for Just for reference, I've gotten this right? Did I 1620 01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:57,840 Speaker 1: get this right? Last week? You did not? I've gotten 1621 01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,760 Speaker 1: I've gotten two in three years? So what are you 1622 01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:06,280 Speaker 1: gonna say so I can go against it? Was it? 1623 01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,400 Speaker 1: Saxon or such ensemble Saturday versus Sunday. No, No, it's 1624 01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:13,559 Speaker 1: a f C, NFCC, NFC is the NFC over, over 1625 01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:20,120 Speaker 1: or under the NFC. I'm gonna go NFC over the 1626 01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:21,880 Speaker 1: a f C a f C. I was gonna go 1627 01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,240 Speaker 1: that way anyway, a f C sel, Thank you? So 1628 01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:30,160 Speaker 1: you got an FC drive next over or under? I 1629 01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:35,400 Speaker 1: finally last one. NFC total points scored versus a f 1630 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:40,000 Speaker 1: C total points scored. Give a NFC over or under 1631 01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:43,439 Speaker 1: n f A f C points scored? God, And I 1632 01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:44,720 Speaker 1: don't know what the weather is going to be in 1633 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,200 Speaker 1: any of these locations this weekend. I don't think it's 1634 01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:57,920 Speaker 1: anything crazy now, um uh, I think I'm gonna go 1635 01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,560 Speaker 1: a f C. I think that Bill's Bengals game is 1636 01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:04,240 Speaker 1: going to be a shootout. And I think Kansas City 1637 01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:07,800 Speaker 1: could put a hurt. Not Jacksonville, Ys, you got over run. 1638 01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to a f C as well. All right, 1639 01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,519 Speaker 1: So you're going under? Are you going over as well? 1640 01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,759 Speaker 1: All right? Very good? All right, we've got like two minutes, 1641 01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:17,880 Speaker 1: we got ninety seconds to do four games on the 1642 01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,760 Speaker 1: scores giving, how do you want to do this? Uh? 1643 01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:30,040 Speaker 1: Started off four o'clock jat Chiefs Saturday, four o'clock Jaguars. 1644 01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:31,720 Speaker 1: Can we do the do we do the line? You 1645 01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,280 Speaker 1: do it and then I'll answer it, because I forget 1646 01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:39,759 Speaker 1: how you do it. Uh, it's Jacksonville visit in Kansas City. 1647 01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen with Jacksonville's Jacksonville for real. 1648 01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:50,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna find out. Bubbashi Chiefs Chiefs thirty eight, Jaguars, Wow, 1649 01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:57,800 Speaker 1: Chiefs twenty seven, Jaguars thirteen. We go to Saturday night 1650 01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,880 Speaker 1: foosball and the number one D in the n NFC 1651 01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,160 Speaker 1: East to be filled up. The Eagles open uh their 1652 01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:07,240 Speaker 1: bid for the Super Bowl, hosting the New York Football Giants. 1653 01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,479 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, fresh off a big win, Toad, what see you? 1654 01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:17,559 Speaker 1: Eagles twenty four Giants seventeen? I like that at Eagles 1655 01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:21,719 Speaker 1: twenty one Giants nineteen. I can see the Giants sneak 1656 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,599 Speaker 1: in this one, though, I could wow. It all comes 1657 01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,679 Speaker 1: down to hurts. All right to Sunday we go. God 1658 01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:30,680 Speaker 1: hoping my flight is on time, but I can go 1659 01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,960 Speaker 1: right to the bar. It starts at three o'clock. It 1660 01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,400 Speaker 1: is Buffalo hosting the Bengals. The Bengals got screwed. It 1661 01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:39,599 Speaker 1: should have been a neutral site game and everybody knows 1662 01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:43,120 Speaker 1: its Bishop it's it's too big. I think Bengals win 1663 01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,360 Speaker 1: this out right. I think it's a great game. Bengals 1664 01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:53,320 Speaker 1: thirty one bills thirty. I am going to go Bengals 1665 01:23:54,200 --> 01:24:03,120 Speaker 1: thirty five bills thirty one. Finally, Sunday Nights six thirty game, 1666 01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:07,760 Speaker 1: I believe on Fox it'll be the the number two 1667 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:14,640 Speaker 1: seed hosting the Dallas Cowboys. Uh for and I is 1668 01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:21,120 Speaker 1: twenty four Cowboys ten same yeah, Niners big seventeen something 1669 01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,360 Speaker 1: like that. Good job and you give a keep it 1670 01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,680 Speaker 1: between the navigational Beacon. So much more to come. You 1671 01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:27,680 Speaker 1: listen to Clean the Browns Daily on fifty Oh, just 1672 01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:29,200 Speaker 1: what do you want me to do? Yeah, we're good, 1673 01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:38,400 Speaker 1: all right. Cle Cleveland Brown's Daily brought to you by 1674 01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:47,960 Speaker 1: Bally Bet coming soon to Ohio on ESPN. Cleveland, John, 1675 01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:49,599 Speaker 1: thank you so much for sitting in with me today. 1676 01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,360 Speaker 1: Buddy had a ball. Thank you for your time, Bud, 1677 01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,280 Speaker 1: but thanks for having me. And it was always a pleasure, 1678 01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,439 Speaker 1: always is. The next level is coming up next. We 1679 01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:59,960 Speaker 1: are off tomorrow back on Monday. 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